WHY ARE RENT PRICES SKYROCKETING EVERYWHERE?

>>127728881
There's always a bubble, that's how (((they)))make money.

Wrong.
I live in LA and was paying my rent delivering pizzas.
Stop bitching.

>>127728881
>WHY ARE RENT PRICES SKYROCKETING IN GROWING LOCATIONS?

fify retard

>>127728881
Are you an idiot?
>get a job in a place where jobs exist.
>move there

>>127729089
>Wrong.
>I live in LA and was paying my rent delivering pizzas.

The BS is strong within you. Please tell us, was your apartment on Hollywood boulevard or above the MS13 hideout on the outskirts of town.

>>127729283
Cadillac and La Cienega, faggot.

>>127729279

>not be able to get foot in the door for basic job because as an unexperienced millenial you cant afford to live in the area
>job prefrences and special training is given to minorites and women

>poorfags in 2017

All going according to plan.

I hope we price them out of existence altogether. We aren't doing this fast enough.

We NEED to kill off about 95% of the population.

>>127728881

I'm about to turn 21 with 6 years of retail and 3 years of managerial expierence and i still can't find a decent job

bout to run away to the army if they'll fix my teeth...

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>>127728881
>IS THERE A BUBBLE/ KIKE IN THE SYSTEM CAUSING ALL OF THIS?

Fixed that for you

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>>127728881
We just bought our first has in a town thats being gentrified like crazy.

Literally all the ghettos are becoming faggy little chique villas.

Our house was built in 1892 which is older than my state and this whole town is being renovated but my block in particular is being heavily renovated.

Basically all the hispanics (we have no black people) are being priced out of the area and all i see is literally mexicans in moving vans fleeing this place.

We got our house which has been completely renovated and is a historical heritage house for 154k

With the current rates of renovation and "hipsterfying" we are looking at being able to sell for 450k in about 5 years with some minor renovations

FEELS REAL FUCKING GOOD

We are literally renovating the house for hipster faggots with things like book nooks outside patio "brutalist" firepits with fucking pabst can covered benches

These faggots will gobble this shit up
and we know it

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>>127729791
deal with it

>>127728881


Central Banks, my friend
Everywhere the print money like cracy.
Pension funds are typically in Housing market
-> et voila, there u go, it's that simple.

>use mass immigration to flood cities with migrants
>migrants need places to stay
>more people looking for places to stay means higher demand
>higher demand causes housing prices to escalate
>every old boomer refuses to sell his house because they think their property is worth twice as much as anyone would actually pay for it, instead sitting on the property due to a false notion that property values always increase, no matter what.

>>127729742
>>127729770
>>127729791
>>127729821
Based.

Let these poor faggots sort themselves out while we laugh behind our gated communities and keep crushing them into denser shitholes.

>>127728881
>WHY ARE RENT PRICES SKYROCKETING EVERYWHERE?

Because more people are buying houses now. This is pretty basic supply and demand. Rent was in a bubble.

>>127729948

y..y.you voted for T.T..Trump right anon?

MAGA right? Working class right?

>>127729742
>buy house
>renovate
>specific design for a specific style
>5 year later
>style is considered stupid now
>nobody likes it
>you're stuck with a house nobody wants

>>127730567
book nooks fire pits and the benches are removable

this is never going out of style

>>127730407
Real estate price has little relation to who is president.

>buy a San Diego house in 1999 for $220k on a loan
>steadily paying it off
>now worth more than $1m

I feel bad for poorfags

>>127728881
I live in a 600 sqft shoebox and it costs $1200 a month, not including any utilities.

It's the only place that there is work. If you want to save $200, you can live with cock roaches and black mold.

>>127730664

but you live in a gated community like the privileged liberal elites

>>127728881
>IS THERE A BUBBLE/ KINK IN THE SYSTEM CAUSING ALL OF THIS?

they gotta convince young people to enlist somehow goyim

>>127730407
It doesn't matter who I voted for, because I would still run over 98% of the population regardless.

When you are above middle class, you will begin to understand that only poorfags and pretend rich losers have any problems bad enough to need daddy Trump to save them.

>>127729896
I tend to believe medpacks on these issues

>>127730892

so your an establishment shit arent you?

>>127729386

party van en route, thanks for playing where are you with the FBI relocation center team

>>127730801
>lives in an area with obscene salaries
>18 years later
>still hasn't paid off a 220k loan
>calls the rest of us poorfags

You're pathetic

>>127730659
Sure nigger
Also if it's in a Mexican ghetto why the fuck did you pay so much in the first place? Sounds like you got fugged.

>>127730984
literally all the mexicans have left
its only white people now

renovating houses

the prices are jumping like crazy
When you see the roaches flee its time to buy

>>127729742
>With the current rates of renovation and "hipsterfying" we are looking at being able to sell for 450k in about 5 years with some minor renovations

16 year cycle in real estate, crash coming in 2024, be out by then or die a death you deserve goyim

>>127730954
Lets just say I would carpet nuke the poorfags if I had even 0.0001 second access to the nuclear codes.

>>127730801
>what it's worth on paper and what it'll sell for are the same thing
That's like saying you have a million in stocks.

>>127729283
How many room mates you got?

I own a 3/2 2300 sqft for 36k about 1 hours drive out from Orlando. I live between 3 of the largest lakes in our county and a 2/5 acre of land.

Pretty comfy desu.

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>>127729499
>This is it. You may not like this, but this is the ideal male body. Peak performance that deserves to carry the genetic future.
You know, when you really think about it, how many of those SJW cunts in Che shirts and such are actually poorfags?
It's almost like there's a correlation between middle and upper middle class life and being a piece of shit person.

>>127731153
I don't know if you know this anon but it takes mere minutes to sell stocks.

>>127731112
we will keep watching

We are looking to sell in 2021

>>127730892
>you will begin to understand that only poorfags and pretend rich losers have any problems bad enough to need daddy Trump to save them.

the wealthy have even more to fear, if your views change in the slightest your family will murder you or stick you in a sanitarium

>>127730978

Meant to say I *was* paying it off. Sorry for unclear English sometimes, it's not my first language (born in Tijuana)

>>127728881
Maybe commute from an area you can afford like the rest of the world does then? Your first job is probably not gonna be mega comfy standard of living. I mean shit, members in my family run companies and they have an hour commute, could easily afford the rent/mortgage somewhere closer, but why incur that expense if it's not necessary?

>>127731119

>(((donor class)))

how do you feel israel and palestine

and why are you a paranoid cuck about saying who you voted for on pol?

of course you could be LARP...

>>127731096
If there's no minorities left then the prices won't go up very much. It'll be a slow increase over a couple of decades if it even gets that high.

>>127731218
>for 36k

holy fuck could there be more shills on this board? I live in Florida too you're not fooling anyone cunt.

>>127731286
Fuck off back to Mexico

I accepted a job out of college and didn't make enough money to pay rent so I had to quit. My work didn't care either, they were paying me 30k under market value and basically told me it wasn't their problem.

>>127729089
How many family members live with you in your low-income project?

>>127731335
The only guaranteed LARPer here is you.

>>127731335

also, do you conduct any illegal activity or money laundering that adds to your wealth

do you have offshore bank accounts

do you partake in tax dodging

have you ever jewed somebody

>>127731338
Well they are restoring the entire town right now

Major corporations are also moving to here in droves as well.

We are also one of the fastest growing towns in the nation

jobs will be plentiful, growth is already happening and hippy fags are eternal

we are willing to take the gamble

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>>127731153
Keep telling yourself that

>>127731248
It only takes seconds to crash.

>>127728881

There is a market shift going on. Home AND rental prices are going up. They will eventually even out but not before the increase has settled.

We are not in a bubble like last time so prices will not be lowering to 2010 home prices/rents.

People think because prices are rising we are in a bubble. That is rarely the case and certainly not the case this time.

>>127728881
>What is supply and demand?

>>127728881
>WHY ARE RENT PRICES SKYROCKETI

open borders and mass migration of niggers. they need a "roof over their heads" and it is in part why real estate kikes want them here. that and they help devalue wages and salaries at all levels and drive the government to borrow more from the ((federal reserve)) in defecit spending on nigger social programs.

>>127731408
Sounds like my current job, I'm underpaid by about 40k+. The compensation is in the experience. Once I have some more "experience" I will leave. All that matters is that number on your resume next to "time employed", I already knew how to do everything I know when I was hired, I just didn't have "x years experience", so they deemed me not valuable.

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>>127730892
>daddy Trump
Oh my god, it's an honest champagne liberal on /pol/!
No wonder you're such a spiteful little cunt. I wonder if your promo to marketing executive was soured by finding out that something, somewhere, didn't go exactly the way you wanted it to.

Depends on where you live. Here in Florida, you need at least $1000 a month for rent for the bare minimum smallest apartment. If you want to live in Miami its gonna be closer to $2000 a month unless you want to live in the hood.

>>127731581
>that Reddit spacing
I know it's growing now, but for how long and how much? And will you get out before it crashes? Lets hope

>>127731592
Again what it's valued for and what it will sell for are two different things.

>>127731643

Im not much into real estate but I think the price increases is more due to speculators flipping them than it is due to actual buyers who use them/live in them.

>>127731916

>are more

>>127728881

chink money/money laundering.

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>>127728881
To pay for all the niggers and the single mom's they create. But don't worry I have a nigger friend so its all ok.

>>127731916
Bingo. Apartment developers are getting sweetheart deals with local governments so they are guaranteed to not lose money for 10-15 years. Even with an oversupply the kikes still charge obscene prices for studios and 1-bedrooms.

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>>127729089
>I live in LA and was paying my rent delivering pizzas.
YOU LYING FAGGOT!

LA is $750 for a studio in the hood. You're just some greasy Spic shacked up with 3 other greasy Spics

>>127731119
It's nice to see you want to kill those who bake your bread. And because you're too retarded to understand what I mean I'll explain it to you: then you won't have any food and you'll die of hunger, and then you go to hell. All while "poor" bread bakers are laughing at you from heaven for eternity.

>>127728881
The bubble accelerates like crazy right before the crash. Be careful

>>127731916
This guy gets it.

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>>127728881
rent is skyrocketing because (((they))) own the industry, and want people to move out of the rural and suburban areas into the city so more land can be claimed for "national parks" thus restricting movement.

Hollywood glamorizes tiny apartments over and over again, ingraining the meme into people. You are being herdered into the city by a financial prod, into minimal living space like cattle. Your quality of life is gradually reduced and replaced with "free" electronic distraction.

You are a disposable commodity. Why all of this? Profit is just a measure of control anon. Once all the cattle are herded into the cities, they can kick off the ww3 boner they have had for so long, and concentrated populations are easy to kill off with indiscriminate weapons like nukes.

This was some OG globalist shit from back in the day: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones#Description

They still stand, a fucking ominous warning of what (((they))) want done. They are not the "jews" anon. They are people who would wear any identity, any skin, so long as it serves their purpose. They keep people distracted with various masks, but if you look at the jewish state, it is most vulnerable of all, their people stacked on top of each other and taught to buy into the safety of their walls. All nations are at risk of the greatest betrayal from hidden powers.

>>127731973
this

its a bigger problem than most people realize, over $1 trillion dollars leaves china every year and they are buying up huge swaths of the anglosphere

>>127731916

AKA money laundering....

>>127731768
Bullshit, moron. Florida has a low cost of living.
You live next to crackheads, but rent is low.
Unless you're living next to the ocean, in which case: MORON

>>127728881
Because rich kikes and chinks are buying up properties for tax purposes/for investments/to artificially drive up demand.

No one lives in the properties they buy up. Soon 99% of homes will be vacant, while 99% of the population will be homeless.

>>127728881
>"I deserve my own place at 20"
Get roommates. It's not the end of the world.

>>127729533
The army will fix your teeth anon, but they will use an army dentist who does a mediocre job with the bare minimum.

Also if you have dental surgery enjoy your motrin for the pain. No vics for you.

>>127728881
>IS THERE A BUBBLE/ KINK IN THE SYSTEM CAUSING ALL OF THIS?

Low interest rates.
Baby boomers get high pensions, compared to average salary.
Financial products far more risky to them.
All in all, boomers fucked their children and grand children.

>>127728881
Rents go up when house sales stagnate
Millennial shave too much debt to take on mortgages so they live month-to-month in shitholes near job centers

>>127732941
Not true
When I was in the naval fleet I requested a 3rd party dentist

They complied and I got two french veneer false teeth priced at 5000 each

my original teeth got smashed out in an accident

>>127731153
It's much easier to liquidate stocks than to sell a house.

>>127731349
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/Leyburn-Dr-Deltona-FL-32725/126891311_zpid/

Shop for forclosures retard.

Stop building new houses, buy old ones and resell them. Mines worth 64k now in just over a year of owning it.

>>127728881
Stricter UGB by leftist pols and govt workers has created an artificial imbalance of supply vs demand. All in the name of reducing "urban sprawl". They've also managed to McFuckle the cost of obtaining a college degree. Hooray for the leftists.

>>127732918
Yeah, totally get roommates. You know, people who can steal, fuck your bitch, rip you off, or bring who do that.

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/FL/fsba,fsbo,fore_lt/house_type/45841592_zpid/14_rid/3-_beds/2-_baths/0-40000_price/0-148_mp/2000-_lot/globalrelevanceex_sort/29.436533,-81.665926,29.306235,-81.850462_rect/12_zm/0_mmm/

16k for a small 3 2 in the middle of a national forest.

we /out/ now.

>>127734533
Grab some chickens and goats, maybe grow some citrus if you'd want, but there is a walmart within 10 miles so its fine, 20 minute drive to get all your shit.

>>127728881
Rent prices aren't skyrocketing though. 1 bedroom apartments have been stable at around 1.200$ for at least the last 5 years or so.

Actual prices on houses and apartments on the other hand.. I bought an apartment 2 years ago and it's already doubled in value from 250k$ to 500k$

>>127732768

Florida is expensive as hell unless you want to live in some of the most dangerous areas in the entire US

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/FL/fsba,fsbo,fore_lt/house_type/45878591_zpid/14_rid/3-_beds/2-_baths/40000-140000_price/148-516_mp/2000-_lot/globalrelevanceex_sort/29.215257,-81.636143,28.95393,-82.005215_rect/11_zm/0_mmm/

136k, sits on a private lake, 3 2 2k sqft. Private fireplace, and separate 22x30 2 car detached garage with its own private screen room with built in theatre system facing the lake.

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>>127734661
>1 bedroom apartments have been stable at around 1.200$ for at least the last 5 years or so.
>1 bedroom
>1200
you made it too obvious schlomo.

>>127734774
Stop thinking all Floridians live near the coast you west coast cuck.

Florida has more livable land then most states do, especially if you enjoy the innawoods living.

Not everything has to have a starbucks and a fucking shake shack.

>>127734774
>https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/fl/crime

Wow, sure is really safe here, want the demographics report as well?

>>127728881
What is this thing call rent? I ask because here everyone owns his house, even the gyppos.
>>127730567
What kind of a shitty shack do you have that you can drastically alter to follow a fashion?
Here in the civilized world you would need a jackhammer to do that, assuming the walls you would want to take out aren't structural.

>>127733761
>>127732941

yeah I lost shattered or broke 80% of my teeth in an accident and they have just slowly cracked and withered away, its really depressing and I look like a meth head.

with this in mind I do not know how universal dental coverage is controversial

>>127734774
Uhh, no. I've known people who rented in Florida for ages. I've checked out prices. Houses go for 800$/ month in rent in WHITE neighborhoods.
Florida is cheap, nigga.

It depends where you live, but the reason as to why rent prices are skyrocketing here, is because the number of illegals living 5 to a single. Managers have gotten fed up, thats why rent costs 1100 and more, and that's next to ghetto as spics. Cant wait till everify becomes mandatory, then they'll start to fuck off and rent prices will plummet.

I pay 1010 for a 1 br but thats only because I got the place 4 years ago and they are not allowed to raise the price every year, but once the place becomes vacant, they can set the price to whatever they want. The single is going for 1095 now, don't even want to image what my place will go for now.

>>127734787
Uhm I am not sure if you think the price is too low or too high.

Anyway see for yourself

https://www.finn.no/realestate/lettings/search.html?geoLocationName=Sentrum%2C+Oslo&lat=59.91192&location=0.20061&lon=10.73361&radius=10000

As you can see most ~30sqm apartments go for around 10k nok every month (1.200$)

It's been like that for years and years

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>>127728881
>He died so that you could pay more for rent.

http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/cms/FSAC/County-Profiles-(1).aspx

WOW, WHAT DO YA KNOW THE COAST LINE SUCKS FOR CRIME.

Move to a white area where there is less crime. Levy, Mayo, Liberty, Monroe, Glades, stop thinking Florida is Miami Tampa or Orlando.


There are countless amounts of beauty in Florida, just gotta be willing to find it.

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1a. Rent isn't that high in a lot of cities. You just have to live a little further out. You're not going to live 10ft away from work downtown, or have an ocean view apartment if you're not a millionaire. This has always been the case.

1b. Public transportation is the bare minimum for being a real city. People whine about SF/Silicon Valley/LA etc commutes because you have to drive in shitty traffic. There is no public investment worth more than public transportation. Everyone's cheaper apartments would be massively upgraded if shitty cities would pay for trains and more buses. You can afford to live further out if you can take the train. That's why SF and LA suck--you live far away and you can't take the train.

2a. One reason rent IS high is NIMBYs, especially in Western cities like SF, LA, Denver, Seattle, etc. Everyone wants to live in a dope city. All the boomers who own property there vote to ban anyone from building any tall buildings anywhere in the city. So LA and SF are a vast hellscape of low buildings stretching off into infinity, everyone pays ridiculous rent due to low density, and getting anywhere takes a full day.

2b. In cities like New York and Boston, you have the problem of truly excessive luxury building construction. Everything is multi-million-dollar apartments. Partly because builders know they get the most profit out of those projects (until the bubble bursts again and they all go on food stamps), and partly because foreign investors and people with like 10 homes create artificially high demand for housing at that level. They pay for it, but in reality no one lives there. Combine this with rent control and public housing, and you shrink to almost nothing the supply of housing that is available to the actual market of actual human beings with actual money and needing actual homes. So there, the housing market is constricted from above by the domestic and foreign wealthy, and from below by the government.

>>127729089
>>127729089
what a loser , you gonna feed your kids with happy meals ?

>>127735422
>You don't have to pay for rent. You can pay that money in additional commuting costs instead.
Wow. Really makes you think.

>>127729742
>With the current rates of renovation and "hipsterfying" we are looking at being able to sell for 450k in about 5 years with some minor renovations

You need to sell very soon my dude

Home Capital Group in Canada is about to implode and that will result in another 2008-style financial crisis, home values will drop like a dead fish.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-12/what-analysts-are-saying-about-home-capital-s-warning-shot

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/FL/fsba,fsbo,fore_lt/house_type/46239932_zpid/14_rid/5-_beds/3-_baths/40000-190000_price/148-701_mp/3000-_lot/globalrelevanceex_sort/28.992526,-80.851136,27.941033,-82.327424_rect/9_zm/0_mmm/


5 bedroom, 4 bath, 2 story with attic, 3814 sqft on a 7 sqft lot.

149k.

Jesus /pol/ stop living in the city.

>>127728881
Agenda 21

They are putting us all in apartments in the city. Its all by design. People need to wake up and take action to stop this.

>>127735628
Ids do lade

There's always shithole places to live in. No matter where you are.

>>127730801
28 years to pay a 200k loan hahahahahah and you not even done yet , pathetic

>>127728881
WTF, you dont want to commute an hour in high traffic for an internship that pays nothing? Sounds like someone is LAZY

>>127729089
>I live in LA
>Its actually Skidrow and its a fucking studio basement

I can afford that by being homeless alone, your point being? Not everyone wants to live in a shitty apartment, people want houses.

Not reply to anon's comment: Housing prices will always go up until some kind of housing market crash, which will happen within a few years, but probably not the next two years. However, the prices will reach new highs and as you can see from history, no fucking people in their right minds will buy houses when they're at their all-time highs unless you're a multi-billionaire real estate tycoon.

But yeah, the people holding onto the houses still have to pay just for having those houses and if they don't get income (no one buys their houses), they will have to sell at a lower price, most likely to its competitors.

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>>127735258
too obvious schlomo.

>>127732448
this

>>127728881
Central Banks

>>127731218
Enjoy your Deland shitbox.

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>>127735998
I am not sure what you're on about. Are you trying to slide this thread?

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>>127730801
>san diego
>right next to mexico

how does it feel to spend so much on a house next to spic hell? All that money and you could've built a sweet place in wyoming or some state with open land and shit. Whenever I watch mark dice I realize what a shithole san diego is, thank god I live in opposite corner of burgerstan.

Hey guys, housing should be free. Everyone is entitled to the right to life, and a necessity to that is a safe place to live.

>>127729070
No that's how they use the system to buy all your shit up for pennies on the dollar after they break it.

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Why do we keep having these discussions?
Take the black pill.
The world is a whore now. A dirty fucking whore. You bust your nut and you look in her eyes and she's already dead. Just like you. You're playing STD roulette with her because while you're fucking her you imagine that she's somebody who actually cares and combined with the orgasm it gives you one solitary moment of bliss needed to keep you from killing yourself until you see her the next time because your will to live is ironically strong for how shitty you know everything to be.

While you whittle away with meaningless work your mind always wanders to suicidal ideation but is promptly interrupted by that little bit of fight left in you that says you'd rather take out that fucker who is pounding your ex wife right now and then make her call you daddy one last time.

I know it. You know it. There is no purpose left for a man in this world but to serve mammon; if not his own somebody else's not willfully but through ever tightening economic duress.

That's why housing is so expensive.

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>>127736172
>oy veyyy, rents always been high goyim look away
good try kike

>>127736117
>Implying I care?

Seriously, stop acting like you NEED a nice mansion to live in.

>>127729089

>I live in LA

I bet this faggot lives in the desert and drives 3 hours to get to LA.

>faggot

>>127736561
this is actually a liberal view I am open with.

if a simple public housing/public income system could be implemented, and not abused and ran into the ground, I think it'd be very beneficial to the lower classes, maybe even help revive the middle class

>>127735852
Glad I'm not the only one who took the S.W.E.A.T pledge

>>127736690
I too am very depressed but I wouldn't wish it on the entire world Anon

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>>127736697
1.2k$ isn't much though. That's like 1/3 of a beginner's wage in proper professions. There is a reason why pretty much everyone buys instead of renting. The rent prices can't go up because people working at gas stations and such also need places to live

>>127728881
We have not raised min wage for like 10 years, it is fucking the millens

>>127736920
Exactly. My grandfather is a war vet from WWII. He had his 94th birthday this year. He was just kicked out of his house because, even though he'd owned it for many decades, his retirement fund ran out of money. He simply didn't plan to live this long. That meant he couldn't pay (((property taxes))). Had it not been for my family stepping in to help him, he could easily have been homeless. That is not okay.

>>127735907
>Not everyone wants to live in a shitty apartment, people want houses.

I believe this is why they want white people gone, because white people want good working conditions, they want a good job, they want a good place to live, they want good foods, meat which is hard to obtain and expensive. They would really want a society where it's just poor and the rich, and white people have always been the middle class, they want that gone, and these sack of shit spics cause that to happen. The lobbyists here love that cheap labot so much that they put down insane amounts of money to fight for them, not for their health and safety, but for profit. It's all money to them and it does not matter if you are already here and settled, you are a thorn on their side and want you gone.

How the fuck does the rest of the united states does not see this? Is it really out of sight out of mind with people these days?

>>127729283
he lives at 1234 hisMomsBasment, LA

>>127736561

i agree in the sense that you would also contribute to society in order for that to happen , and you would work but fulfilled and knowing at the end of year you could afford to buy almost anything.

But now in present times? forget about it, you work for nothing almost , and not everyone is going to say i have a nice life.


You only have good life if you are a ceo or drug dealer


im talking about real money, not like 400k year job income , because thats a joke

>>127737136
Paying tax on capital you are never going to realize is just bullshit. There are so many cases of people not being able to afford to keep the house they built themselves years ago due to the galloping house prices

>>127728881
NorCal fag here. Pay 600 a month for a 1 bedroom. Work three days a week. I'm not even trying

>>127728881
There's a huge housing bubble and since neoliberalism took over the world state intervention to provide affordable housing has been scaled back.
State intervention to reduce housing prices back to their historic average would cause a collapse in house prices which would create a financial sector collapse.
And no one really knows how to deal with that. Personally I want it to happen as I think it would be fascinating to see the effects play out.

>>127728881
You know when I lived through the housing crisis I was in construction and it was the worst thing ever tbqh BUT I look at the graphs now and I realized that the prices post-crash were really where they should be and real estate is now back to being some giant game for the wealthy.

The saddest thing about being a millennial is that we put our lives into getting these huge debts and couldn't take advantage of that housing crash. If our generation purchased properties en masse ours would be one of the if not the richest ever right now.

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>>127729386
so your apartment was a little under 3k a month
unless you made huge cuts to everything in your life and lived with 6 other people, rent should be around 25% of your income and i highly doubt you made enough per month delivering pizzas since min-wage working 40 hours a week is only a little over 1k/week

>>127737356
600 for a room lol , expensive as hell if you have to share house

>>127737136
(((property taxes))) are THEFT

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>>127731757
>liberal
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>he really thinks the liberals are the ones with this attitude
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>127737282
This is the most retarded thing I've ever seen

>>127737568
fuck off retard.

>>127731592

>India Street
>Living next to the literal designated

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>>127737184
This

>>127737665

justify property taxes right now

>>127736598
And then sell everything back at 10x the price

next housing downturn (and it is coming) I'm snapping up some properties so I can shylock other millennials on rent because I am an alpha and have the cash to buy them.

>>127737348

Yeah and there's cases of people not being able to afford homes because they spent all their money on drugs.

We shouldn't reward stupid people who put all their money into an expensive and inefficient way of living. This is like someone spending right up to their budget for a BMW, and then having to give it up later because the repair costs kill them.

The 1950s are over. Everyone doesn't need to have a house with a hideous lawn. Especially not in places where space is at a premium.

>>127737623


care to elaborate ?


because i dont want to lose time with middle class poor scum like yourself

>>127737556
Nono for a 1 bedroom stand alone house. It's shitty but it's better than an apartment. However I live in a college town. Rent for a 1 bedroom apartment is like 950-1400 a month which is fucking insane. They import Chinese students who are super rich who's parents pay. I hate them.

>>127737556
Are you an American?
$600 for a single is really decent on any coastal state. I am paying $2000 for a single, and I have a single bathroom per floor.
t. college student

>>127737914
you are a leaf using a murrican proxy?

>>127731642

TrumpMouthWrong.jpg

The same way the USA effected the rest of the world when their housing market crashed, the housing markets of Canada, Australia and the UK will effect the USA. You don't really think that the global economy doesn't effect your country as well? Do you really think the Chinese can keep driving up prices forever?

The market will bottom out eventually and when it does housing prices will drop. Will they drop below 2010 levels? Maybe. How much of that value is merely inflation as well? Conservatively at an inflation rate of 2% per year it is 14%. Throw a 30-36% correction and a 14% inflation rate together and you have lost half of the value of your home.

What is keeping someone, say, Mark Zuckerberg, or someone like that, from buying up a SHITTON of property in big cities, building lots of appartments (however small), and selling them at a low price, undercutting the competition, and bringing prices down?

>>127738149
jewish greed.

they want to be generous with goy money stupid goy

>>127737436
Also this baka desu senpai.

People used to be able to save up and buy a house without a mortgage. Or if people did get a mortgage they would make like a 20-50% down payment. Then the credit Jew came along and said "Hey, why wait goyim? You can have your dream home now." and jacked down the interest rates. Which not only flooded the market with more and younger buyers who are too impatient to negotiate properly but also sparked lots of speculative real estate investment.

This pushed housing prices up and the boomers were like "HELL YEAH. MY 15,000 DOLLAR HOUSE IS WORTH 100-200 GRAND NOW."
And because the boomers are in control of the world they said "MORE CAPITAL!" and the lending rules got stupider and stupider, driving prices further and further up.

So now boomers and their disgusting progeny will lose shit loads of money if there is any housing price relief. Meanwhile people who weren't lucky enough to inherit a house or be in a financial position to buy a house before things got as fucky as they are now are suffering.

There's an inevitable breaking point somewhere. Governments keep doing bailouts when we get close though. And it's going to be really fucking ugly.

>>127738149

the jew blood in his veins

>>127737888
400k for someone in their 20s?? What planet are u on

>>127728881
I live in a medium sized southern city (under 1m residents). We've recently had a tech book of sorts, and now all these commiefornians are flooding in and pretending they're southern like us. Very often on local news posts on facebook you'll see people commenting on local news stories and complaining about the racism going all "Back in California it was X way".
Count your blessings, because high cost of living keeps these people away.

>>127737731
Justify why i should contribute taxes to pay for some old cunts existence, so he could recieve as a pension far FAR more than he ever paid in, why I'm told I can never have as sweet a deal, why I have to pay for services the older gen got for free, why whilst doing the same things that that gen did I can never get my own house, and why I should still pay taxes to support a state that upholds the property rights of that generation, while telling mine to eat a dick.
If they want their property rights upheld by the state they should pay for the privilege.

>>127737914
OK you got lucky because at least you have some privacy, imagine having to share apartment.
It's insane the prices, here is the same shit , almost impossible to afford a apartment , to many things to pay besides rent .

It's like we are not afford to quick have a apartment even if working.

I checked out society long time ago, now i just spend my life in a spiritual and existencial quest. Spend a lot of time in nature , and always like to check latest isis attacks on western countries.

>>127737888
If you are not some LARPfag, and a legit druglord, fine, sounds like fun. I mean, I hope someone cuts your head off, but I am not gonna hate on your life. assuming you do based shit.
However the likelyhood is you are not a druglord, you are the druglord's bitch, and make good money, not the most. The difference between you and I is I get to walk around my country with pride in my hard work while you have to hide it besides your inner circles.

>>127737980
I wish. More like a degenerate who has never tried to make money due to wealthy family. Getting degree but surrounded by uber rich Chinese fags

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Our parents live differently from their parents. Their parents lived differently from their parents.

It's reasonable that we should live differently from our parents. You're probably not going to own a nice house in the 'burbs or drive a nice SUV to take Brighton and Sky to soccer practice. That lifestyle was created by taking a lot of resources from the old and the young.

Sorry, /pol/.

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>>127738387
you need to work harder on keeping them out

>>127738385
I did not get my post, I was saying that 400k year income is nothing , if you think you are rich because you have 200k year income , you are delusional . And many people that have 200k year income think that they are rich .

>>127737914
>tfw I know what college you go to
Davis?

>>127728881
Rent prices are skyrocketing because lower and middleclass people, so basically everything nonwhite, moves out of the cities and urban areas into the surrounding rural areas, thus spreading out and destroying the last places of white homogenity. It´s the jews man.

>>127737872
There is a huge difference between not being able to pay to fix your shit, and the government forcing you to pay to keep shit you need to live. What is the alternative? Move into something smaller until that too becomes to expensive until you in the end live in a elderly home with no posessions and nothing to pass on to your kids.

If you want to give your kids a proper upbringing you need stability, space for them to move around in, trees to climb and all that jazz

>>127738565
A local business actually did that and got a ton of crap for it. The city councilman representing the area threw a fit over it and ended up getting voted out.
Our local municipality is basically begging for yuppies to move in.

>>127738649
I had to explain to an old room-mate that Jay-Z was not rich enough to own a legit yacht. it blew his mind.

>>127738468
i was just trying to say that there is a huge, HUGEEE gap in classes on our societys, and soon this is gonna collapse .

>>127738649
Oh yes. Where I live on the west coast if you're not making over 200k you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between someone making 10k. It's fucked up

>>127738406
>moving the goal posts

Property tax is not okay

If i own a property, it is MINE, it is not the governments, it is PRIVATE property. it does not magically become the governments because I did not pay them my mafia- tier extorted protection money

I can get a bunch of people with guns to patrol your neighborhood and say "oh by the way your gonna pay us X$ every month or we're gonna kick you out and take your shit, and it'd be the same fucking thing on a smaller scale

>>127728881

>everywhere

not everywhere, only in "libtard" cities, e.g. where people ACTUALLY WANT TO LIVE and where quality of life is generally rather high.

you can always move to texas and live like a poorfag though, since according to /pol/ "cost of living" is a good excuse to live in squalor & poverty. i hate flyover republicuck america so fucking much.

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>>127738355

Honestly most things will get better when boomers finally all die.

>>127738387

You've got it backwards, actually. The Californians are going to drastically raise the cost of living where you are with high tech wages.

>>127738406

This but we should support old people. Rent-seeking behavior should be severely punished, though.

>>127738468

Also lol at thinking drug lords are part of the middle or upper class.

>>127728881
2008 housing bubble caused banks to tighten up on who they will loan to.
Even though housing prices fell, only people who could prove they didn't need money could get money to purchase homes.
Couple that to eight years of sanctuary cities and lax immigration policy you get to where we are now. Heavy competition for rentals keeps prices high, and illegals in the workforce depress wages.
That wasn't so hard, was it?

>>127738929
No it wouldn't because it literally is their land, you've got a piece of paper that they choose to honour.
Just like those bits of money you think are your money when they have the governments name on it.
You have no idea how thin the veneer is between your comfy life and an anarchist shithole.

>>127739062
Did they died?

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>>127728881
I've rented a 4 bedroom, 3 bath, 2 car garage house in an upper middle class neighborhood for $700 for the last ten years. Have it all to myself. Landlord is richfag friend i went to hs with. His dad owns 5 car dealerships and also own tons of property including my house. He's so rich he probably doesn't even know he owns it and my buddy rents it to me cheap as a favor. He could easily get 2 grand a month for it.

>>127739334
>it's literally is their land

It literally isn't

>>127739520
God damn you're lucky

>>127739312

Nope, and I said essentially the same thing. My question is though, we see it, you see it, why doesn't the rest of america see it? Do we really have to go off the cliff to prove it? Do people need to stop having food going in their mouths to understand this? When is the breaking point. It's pretty sad that the only hope I have left is everifiy becoming mandatory, but even that they'll manage to fuck up.

We are fucked man.

>>127738996
Alright... east coast or west coast?

>>127729499
>he thinks poor people are the first ones to die when a country collapses
Read a history book my dude, I would have some emergency poor fag clothes prepared so the angry mob doesnt think you're wealthy

>>127739565
It literally is.

>>127739334
America was literally Britain

remember that thing with the taxes and the tea

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>>127738708

It's not like property taxes are a new thing. It's not like housing values changing is a new thing. Dude's been alive for 90-odd years. You'd think he'd realize that.

The government charges property taxes because the government is the power that legitimizes ownership of property via police and public records. Otherwise it'd be legal to beat the shit out of the old man and take his house, so this would be a moot point.

Also, because old people sitting around on valuable property doing nothing with it, never selling it, and refusing to let anything develop around it is 99% of why property prices and rent are so high, especially out West. He evicted himself, with the help of all the people like him.

>What is the alternative? Move into something smaller until that too becomes to expensive until you in the end live in a elderly home with no posessions and nothing to pass on to your kids.

Yeah that's what everyone else is doing. Or people like him could not insist on fucking around on valuable land doing nothing with it.

>If you want to give your kids a proper upbringing you need stability, space for them to move around in, trees to climb and all that jazz

And for his generation, they had to work on the farm, be caned every now and then, read the bible 4 hours a day, and do not work of any kind on Sunday. Every generation lives differently. His generation passed on a new set of rules to the next, they passed on a new set to us. And his kids passed down a shitty set of rules, and he's suffering because of it.

Life sucks, but that how it is. The idea of buying a house and it being the best investment ever and never costing any money and only ever gaining value has been debunked incredibly hard by now. He's just a late learner.

>>127739677
West. Didn't say you're wrong lad

>>127739840

I don't see their name on it

Getting an SUV and throwing some sleeping gear in the back is a quick fix, and one of the better options when you're struggling with rent. I cut my monthly expenses down to $400 per with a bit of strategic planning. Even with a very low level job, month by month all that additional money stacks up QUICK. I kept myself busy with the gym because it allowed me to shower there without looking homeless and kept me in shape and at ease (suvs are fucking cramped) but over the course of a year, if you play it right you're looking at an additional 10-15 grand in your pocket for a bit of hardship. Its more then worth it in this economy.

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>>127728881

>>127738861
they cant possible understand that money is like water , it goes so quick

And if you have a million today you can spend it in like minutes .
And people work a all life a win what ?

For me at this point the meaning of society is having kids, period


but I think that in future children will be produced on artificial wombs in corporation labs and you need tv license to claim one

>>127738565

Damn and this located in the US. I would have thought it was some UK joint.

>>127739933
Declare independence then, see how far you get. Like i said, they choose to honour the contracts, society is built on promises and good faith. That can change.

>>127739646
Overton Window/frogboil desu.
No one change that happens is revolutionary. We've gone a long way since this shit started, but it's been in such small baby steps that it's like.
>IMMIGRATION QUOTA 250,000 GOES UP TO 255,000.
What are you doing to do? Go and protest the measly increase? It becomes so easy to make you look like a lunatic for fighting the system.

It will keep happening until you are nothing but a slave to the state. The last step will be to turn the key in the lock on your shackles and when you protest that people will be like
>Are you crazy? It's not like you're allowed to take them off anyways.

>we must pay property taxes or the world will fall into chaos

lmao you kids better hold mommies hand while you cross the street

>>127738929

So I expect you not to call the cops or use any other public service when you're having problems with your property, since it's YOURS and not THEIRS.

The state is what creates your property rights. You have to pay them to honor it. That's so no one can just kill you and take your stuff, and so you don't have to take justice into your own hands when things go South.

>>127739423

Yeah I think a few did.

>>127728881
its capitalism in its natural state
governments selling public-housing space for a nickel and dime, wondering a decade later why poor people can't get places to live

>>127728881
Fucking NIMBYs.

NIMBYs should be gassed.

San Francisco could solve their housing crisis by building multistory apartment buildings. But they refuse. So you can pay $3,000 a month to live in someone's bathtub.

I'm not talking about 'da projects'. I'm not talking about building ghettos or commie blocks.

ALL cities should have a policy of building big, fancy, medium income, well managed apartment blocks with nicely manicured grounds, similar to ops pic.

The only way to solve the housing crisis is to build UP. However, fucking nimbys will never have it because they want their victorian town house to be worth millions and millions and millions and millions when they sell it to some Chinese asshole who won't even live in it.

>>127740315
>pay this very specific tax or I will not help you

this is a problem

>>127729499
(((Spotted)))

>>127740274
>I want to live in a pretty nice part of the world but pay nothing towards keeping it that way

>>127740605
I pay in other ways. When I buy things, I pay sales tax. Let poor people and old people keep their homes.

>>127739932
Ayyy! I lived there for a bit, when wunderbar was the g-street pub. Full of basedfags too. Cheers!

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>>127740023

Bottled Blonde in River North, Chicago.

because government is slow to let developers build more apartments and developments. And the the government has been subsidizing the wrong kind of housing, suburban, single family homes, which no one wants.

>>127740496

>give me things for free

Pretty typical rent-seeker, honestly.

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>>127737184
Underrated

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>>127739758
bro...

>>127740785
Ayyy. Cheers

>>127740946
Human beings have certain rights given by god. These are things like having a right to life. Ignoring any legal system, any reasonable human being understands that killing people is bad, and they shouldn't put other people into situations where they cannot live.

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>>127739870
I don't know about you, but here property taxes are kind of a new thing that they've only started implementing the last 10 years or so.

Anyway the cases of people I know who are suffering from this are all people in their 30s with children who built houses say 3-4 years ago where the houses have tripled in value and they are now forced to pay out the ass for said house.

You are delusional if you think people sitting on their houses is why prices are going up. Builders are even admitting themselves that they aren't building as much as they can in order to keep the prices artificially high

>Yeah that's what everyone else is doing. Or people like him could not insist on fucking around on valuable land doing nothing with it.

Jesus christ I didn't know things were this bad in the USA. How can you live in such a dystopian society. No wonder you have all this crime if you are living like absolute filth with no prospects for the future of your family.

Again why are you harping on this old man? This is YOUR future we're talking about. This is the world you are bringing up your kids in. Just because you have been dealt a shitty hand doesn't mean you have to fuck it up even further for future generations. Stop being such a vindictive asshole and try to fix your shitstain of a country

>>127740723
Why? I pay tax for running a car, I accept there's taxes on all sorts of things like savings or dildos or insurance. So why not property? Why is that sacred? Those guys have something to lose if the state went under.
The man with the mansion has more to lose than the man in a shack so he should pay commensurately more. It's an insurance premium, in effect.

>>127740494
Why don't you save up the money to build one in your back yard, you could make a killing :)

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>>127740494

Really instead of gassing them, we should have a special session where we eliminate all building height restrictions in NIMBY-afflicted areas. Then we have referenda to vote on new restrictions.

But each story banned comes with a 5% increase in property taxes.

Something like that. Make them all run back to the suburbs where they belong.

Your mistake is assuming NIMBYs will ever be selling the houses for that much. Either they'll die in the house or the market will crash because no one can live in those cities anymore.

>>127734468
Get white roommates then.

>forget about those millions of other taxes and regulations

>Property tax is the backbone of humanity

where do you faggots come from

i can contribute to my country without paying property taxes.

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>>127741302
we already have a simpler solution

>>127741570
property tax is a fucking scam

>buy to "own"
>still have to pay 8k+ a year on property tax depending where you live
Might as well just save the upfront mortgage and rent a room for the rest of your life.

>>127728881
Taxes.

>>127740946
i pay income tax, sales tax, all the shit

is it too much to ask to actually own your own property?

or should i just sit down and be a good goy and pay up

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>>127729089
Sure you do.

>>127741570
>>127741754
If americans paid enough taxes they wouldn't have a permanent budget deficit

>>127728881
Oh, and, co-habitating. Living with friends or gasp, finding a significant other who isn't just a party/sex partner but a life partner and dividing and conquering.

The Milenials I know (yes I know my sphere yada) are all about living it up by themselves.

I lived with guys my age until I found my wife. We co-habitated for a while for the test drive now we're married.

Living of your parents means your a faggot.

Oh, and FUCKING MOVE. If you're in an area that's Aids expensive... move to a place that isn't and get a job there.

You know. Be a fucking adult.

>>127741021
>he thinks the police will protect him from the angry mob
Do rich people not read history books?

>>127729533
You must not be really great at your job? Do you work at sears?

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>>127728881
>is there a kink in th esystem

no there is a KIKE in the system

>>127729089
>>127741777

based sevens, ill say, it sounds quite fishy

>>127741915

you mean if the government was fucking retarded we wouldn't have a permanent budget deficit

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>>127728881
Ionno about rent, but Vancouver is fucked in general.
>pic related

I am a top earner (>$250k/year) and still won't be able to buy anything for a few more years if I don't up my game. Gonna take some big ass business risks soon.

>>127742088
No I manage a restaurant

the only jobs around here are shitty factory jobs that lay you off after 6 months and a local state and federal prison

>tfw I'm paying 3/4 of my income to rent (cheapest place available, it's complete shit)
>other 1/4 goes to bills
>credit card is used for the other bills
>eat nothing but ramen

Have a full time job and a part time job. God bless America

>>127728881
There is high demand?

As long as people are willing to pay the rents they will go up

>>127728881
The thing is the time for moving out to L.A or NYC or Boston just ain't viable. You got to find a nice city with around 150 - 250k people. Affordable rent, better living standards, less minorities, cleaner air etc. It's not a choice between bumfuck and NYC.

>>127742574
It's da chinks mane

>>127742183
>america is so shit people need to be paid to live there

>>127742266
Why are there so many fucking bathrooms? Do they just fill their houses with bathrooms to inflate the price or something? You only need 1 max 2 bathrooms even for a family of 5

>>127739870

> paying protection money
> when you dont pay protection they come and steal your house from you
> just like the mob

fixed that for you

>>127742735

Yes.

>>127741180
>tell burgers to clean up their country
>says they let kikes implement property taxes in last 10 years

this is the road you are headed down Ole

take a good look , and remember when you are paying 10% of your homes value every year to educate Mohamaed

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>>127728881
It a result of all that money they have been printing since 2008. QE2 and other means to control the fall of economic value. The price of food has been going up since 2010, now that is rippling down through the economy. They call it inflation every thing goes up except wages! Enjoy your Globalization and Flat Earth!

>>127742266
jesus fucking christ 5million for a 1900foot cuckshed? lmao

>the 15% tax on foriegners would fix everything they said

>>127742735
Because Hindus and chinks are gonna buy the property then build a bigger house for several families to live in. The fact that these even get posted here is just for show

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>>127740923

This is because of NIMBYs. They don't want tall buildings blocking their views of the hellish gray expanse of LA and SF.

>>127741151

That's a great argument against property ownership, which is something Jesus never believed in. It's not a good argument against paying taxes, especially when God told you he doesn't give a shit about your taxes and to stop complaining.

>>127741180

My brain blanked on the fact that you're not from here.

Let me explain our problem to you, especially in the West. A long time ago people bought up a bunch of property. Those people mistakenly believed that property can only increase in value, and that it's the best investment because it will increase forever and one day they'll be millionaires for doing no work.

Their property did go up in value because people kept moving to where they lived for work and city life and all that. When people started to build tall buildings to live in, the property owners got upset and passed referenda that banned tall buildings. These people are called NIMBYs--"Not In My Back Yard." They want their property to be near a big city and to have cool things around it, but none of that may infringe on their view of the hills.

Because of NIMBYs, cities like San Francisco and Los Angeles have become enormously wide and short. Everyone is paying tremendous amounts of money because few people can occupy a given space, and everyone drives at least an hour to work because NIMBYs don't believe in public transportation, either. That's why you hear about Silicon Valley tech workers paying $3,000+ to live with roommates in the city.

In Norway, where there are only 14 people per square kilometer, this might not be a big problem. In America, where there are 35 people per square kilometer, it is.

This is especially exaggerated in cities. Oslo's entire metro area population would not be in the top 10 of US cities proper (not including metro area).

>>127737665
Redcoats sure love their taxes.

>>127742713
>According to the IRS, Americans filed more than 150.6 million tax returns in 2015. During that year they also earned $10.17 trillion in adjusted gross income and had a total tax liability of $1.45 trillion. Some quick division means that the average gross income per return was $67,564 while the average federal tax hit was $9,655. That gives the average American family a federal tax rate of 14.3%.

Americans pay a fuck ton of tax already, especially people with high income

property tax can easily be done away with or replaced

the problem is inefficient government spending

go suck merkels cock

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>>127740274

You know what'd be great?

If all of the property taxes set aside for education were pooled across the entire state
> and distributed to schools based on the number of students there

Now we get equal education, schools in the hood actually teach something, rich kids stop being pricks because they have to learn the same way all the other kids do.

That'd be peachy.

Because yknow thats the reason the nigs cant read by the time they "graduate" high school.

Also I think if the upper class kids from the high dollar neighborhoods want some kind of unfair competitive edge against other kids starting out at the basic school level - their parents ought to just have them tutored or private schooled.

>>127743161
>14% is a lot of tax
just shut up. your entire argument is i don't mind paying taxes but i don't want to pay this specific tax because i have autism about this specific tax.

>>127738047

I don't believe the home prices will be driven up indefinitely but rather they will plateau again. This is a market shift and not a bubble.

There are many factors showing this is not a bubble. First off, fixed rates are ridiculously low right now. Also new construction is lower than it has been in much of the U.S. right now meaning the inventory is staying relatively the same. Bubbles are made by over building in the suburbs and that is not the case in the U.S. right now.

A market shift is underway but will even out soon. I can only speak about the U.S. though.

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>>127741270
GTFO out of here bong

we keep paying property taxes to edJEWcate

a bunch of damn beaners so that the kikes can exploit them for cheap labor and we pay income tax to give them food stamps section 8 housing and welfare shekles because fucking shlomo does not want to pay a living fucking wage to middle class whites so he and his tribe members open the borders and flood us with beaners like they flood you mohamdeans

and then make us pay to subsidize their slave labor

property tax goes to fund the now 90% non white school system in my city and for classed to be taught in 18 different languages because they can;t even learn english

>>127742820
Hey at least I am fighting as hard as I can against property taxes. I only vote for parties who are against the shit and I urge everyone else to do the same. I am also strongly considering joining a political party to try to stop the madness. Most municipalities do not have property taxes yet, so I am hoping that there is still time.

It really does suck that 90% of all politicians are power hungry idiot assholes who've bothered to become politicians solely so that they can powertrip all over the place

>>127743198
you really think black schools are bad because they dont get funding dont you. They are bad because they are full of poor black people that think education is acting too white.

>>127735907
There's only a finite amount of land available for home construction in the city. You can also house many more people in condos than you can in 1 uni familial home.

>>127742735
Probably cause only the only people who can afford it are groups of working individuals who want their own bathroom each.

>>127743029
I'm renting a small place now with a few friends (1900ft2).
I talked to the landlord, the current market price is >2 million, he bought it 2 years ago for just above 1 million.


If I can't afford a place, what chance does the average person have.

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>>127739758
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>>127741754

Vote for those other taxes to be used better and we won't need property taxes.

>>127741915

To be fair a lot of it is thrown away or given as handouts to the friends of officials.

>>127742266

Good. As soon as you buy a home it'll be more expensive for you and everyone else anyway.

>>127742582

This. I live in Chicago, but small cities are a great option too. And they're growing. If you get in now, you can have your precious NIMBY lifestyle, too. Cities in NC are getting good jobs and fast development.

Only problem is shit transit because small city people are too stupid to understand it. Charlotte, NC, where I spend a decent amount of time, is going to be hell in 10 years.

>>127743435
So? This is all done to enrich a certain class of people. The same class that tell you an ever smaller state and ever lower taxes are the way forwards. If you want to call him schlomo I wouldn't neccesarily disagree with you, they are of course disciples of (((Milton Friedman)))

I live in midtown atlanta where rent is going up faster than the national average and I pay my rent by waiting tables.

OP is a faggot who wants the economy to tank so everybody feels as low as him.

>>127743339
My argument is that property taxes is not right

your argument seems to be that all american goyim need to pay more taxes

>>127731218
>living in central FL
joke's on you

>>127742735
>You only need 1 max 2 bathrooms even for a family of 5
Until the moment you need more and don't have them. Imagine you got food poisoning. Or were throwing a party. Maybe it's a cultural thing? I live on my own and I've got 3 bathrooms (1 family, 1 ensuite on my bedroom, and a cloakroom one).

Having a private bathroom is a really wonderful feeling if you've ever lived in a house where you share, especially sharing with women.

>>127743412
This is an *asset* bubble, not a speculative bubble.

House prices are rising to the level of what the market can bear, not as a balance between supply/demand. The primary driver of this bubble is indeed low interest rates, but this is a different sort of bubble to a speculative real estate boom.

>Asset bubble
>Prices increase
>Asset bubble pops
>Massive negative equity, underwater loans, people either don't dare sell or are forced to sell and take a massive loss
>Repos increase dramatically, prices correct themselves

>Speculative bubble
>Property developers raise tons of capital to build property based on valuations that turn out to be too optimistic
>Valuations tank
>Property developers go out of business

The first type of bubble is infinitely more damaging to people than the second, in that it's middle-class individuals taking the hit on their single biggest asset and not capital investment.

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>>127743161

>14.3%

That ain't shit. And people wonder why low-tax states like Tennessee are worse than death to live in.

>>127743198

This. End all arguments about funding by making it equal. Then we can talk about poverty, race, etc.

>>127743412

Won't there be a massive implosion when everyone realizes NIMBYs are cancer and height limits are taken off cities in California?

Also, there's already jittering about the fact that zero millenials are buying houses. A lot of people are going to lose their jobs because there isn't really going to be a property market soon.

>>127743468

What the hell is Norway doing with all that oil money anyway? Why do they need high property taxes?

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>>127735555

>>127744189
Sure having more bathrooms is nice, but the cost of building a bathroom isn't worth it. Also you can always build more bathrooms if you need them later, just make sure to not have other essential rooms close to the existing plumbing.

I would say that having more than 2 bathrooms is a luxury, sort of like having a swimming pool

>>127743930
Your argument is shit. I'm not saying Americans should pay more taxes per se (but a budget deficit is an indicator) and you haven't convinced me as to why a worker should pay tax but a property owner shouldn't.

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>>127743926

Yeah really. Rent is bad, but it's not that bad. There are solutions, but for now just suck it up and live somewhere you can afford. Let California sort its dumb shit out.

Though to be fair, ATL has a serious transportation problem that's going to get worse.

>>127744563
we have one out in the garage just for me, call it the "thunder shack"

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>tfw 22 and make 70k (about 50 after taxes)
>tfw rent for a fairly spacious 1 bed (not studio) is 1000-1200 where I live in the Denver suburbs
>tfw I have plenty of money left over each month and save about 20% of my income each month with no issues
>tfw I have friends making six figures who struggle with debt because they insist on living in stupid ass hipster high rises in the center of Denver

Work in a big city and commute, lads. That's the way to make it work. Don't eat avacado toast and don't live in a fucking high rise because muh city muh nightlife

>>127744506
Approximately 11 percent of tax revenue in the US is collected from property taxes.

With the number of US citizens, and with reforms to government spending, property taxes can be completely eliminated

we don't need to pay our lords and kings tribute to use land anymore

>>127743161
Didnt we revolt against the british for like 15% or some shit

>>127737282

400k per year is around 33k/month. The portuguese average is slightly less than 1k! Yes you are fucking rich with that kind of money.

In what drugs are you man?

>iraq: no property tax
>america: property tax
Gee this place sucks :(

>>127743926
Rent just enriches the land jew. If you paid the amount you pay in rent as a tax chances are that would actually be put to something useful (assuming you don't live in some super corrupt hellhole)

>>127744910
>muh nightlife
That's degenerate anyway. Raise a beautiful nuclear family in the suburbs

>>127744599
see
>>127744939


the reason is your always gonna buy stuff, your always going to make income, but your not going to always buy a house

when you buy a house there should be no dispute what-so-ever that the property is yours. You should also not have pay 1-15% of your properties worth every year. you already bought the shit

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>>127728881
It's a good way to keep niggers, terrorist and Antifa out of otherwise good communities.

>>127730801
You can't sell it. You'll stay there forever with mexicans. Enjoy your freedom cuck.

>>127744939

Agree on this, although I think it makes more sense to pay to occupy land and keep it from other use than it does to pay to participate in the market.

In one, you're blocking activity. In the other, you're creating it.

>>127730801
You have to actually sell it for it to be worth one cent.
Can you sell it and move away to realise the profit? My parents never did. At least Ill inherit a few houses which I will sell the moment the prices get higher.

>>127735555
OH SHIT
KEK CONFIRMS

>>127744693

no it doesn't. People who don't own cars have serious transportation problems. Atlanta traffic is overrated. The highway sucks, so don't use it. Don't drive in rush hour, but that rule applies everywhere.

If you don't live in the perimeter I don't want to hear your opinion on Atlanta traffic. No shit you think traffic sucks, you drive into the city at 8AM and out of the city at 5:30PM. That's like fucking two ugly fatties and declaring all women are ugly.

>>127728881
>IS THERE A BUBBLE/ KINK IN THE SYSTEM CAUSING ALL OF THIS?
Demand is high. This is how it works. Also, if you don't want just any Tom, Dick, Jamal, Tyrone, ShaQwan living in your complex, you charge higher rent.

Prices build fences where actual fences cannot be built.

>>127728881

have you heard of roommates?

but, really... don't complain. it's the free market!

if it becomes disadvantageous for the 1% to lower rent - they will...

>>127732145
What a shitty analogy. Anyone can bake bread you fucking retard.

>>127745268
The property is yours, and you pay property tax for the privilege of saying it's yours.
Property taxes help keep property prices low (to a small extent, really land taxes should be much higher to have a real effect) which is a good thing for the real economy
The argument about property right protection has been made, scroll up.
If you are not paying taxes on property you'll just have to pay it some other way so it works out the same.

The US/Canadian housing market is a money laundering system for Chinese and eastern wealth.

>>127745972
except for one little thing

quit paying property taxes and see how long you keep your house


this is the problem, it is not the money or lack of it, its stealing something from someone who worked to buy it

>>127728881
zoning laws, voted in by
old homeowners wanting to get rich on the backs on new generations.

Under free market there would be skyscrapers everywhere, making apartments much, much cheaper. Current technology allows about 30 levels before price (per sq meter) starts to skyrocket.

>>127746207
Here's the thing - If you don't want to pay property taxes you don't have to. How? Just don't buy property! Laws are a pain aren't they, anon?

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>>127745760

So don't try to go to work or home when most people need to go to work or home?

ATL has a transit problem, dude. That's why everyone says it does. Any city where you have to drive all the time has a transportation problem.

Good cities have transit systems. Atlanta doesn't because it's in the South and every white person who works there drives in from outside, and if there were trains then the blacks could get into suburbia.

This is why it was a catastrophe that one time it snowed there.

>>127728881
So how is rent in Canada? I was planning on moving there soon.

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>>127746294

Polish anon gets it.

>>127746395

Dude take it from another American--these people do not change their minds, they do not get argued down, they do not listen to reason. They complain about high taxes and then vote for shit that requires high taxes and complain about the taxes that get passed or the massive deficits due to low taxes.

Complain all they might, they still generally pay their taxes, so it doesn't matter.

Bongs don't have this tradition. These people are as old as the colonies.

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>>127728881
Rent went down in NYC

>>127729089
>was

>>127746781

That's because it's a real city.

>>127746395

Yeah that's obviously the best solution, you fucking idiot

Do you propose an air tax? I mean, you are breathing the air in the governments airspace. Let us just calculate your lung capacity and average breathing rate and we'll figure up what you owe. and if you don't want to pay, well its easy! just dont breathe!