Why don't we build beautiful stuff anymore?

>>127701402
>Cost
>Time
>Function
>Sustainability

Just a few from a Quantity Surveyor

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>>127701402
jews

>>127701535
Revy is not for lewd!

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>>127701995
She's such a horny slut i wanna be in a hentai world where i fuck revy 24/7 while shes a slave to my cock

>>127702205
TAKE IT BACK! TAKE IT ALL BACK!

Big impressive buildings are built when aristocrats have money to throw around. When a company or popular government builds a building, though, it tends to go with boring and functional.

>>127701402

Awesome question. I think about it all the time. No art woven into walls. No curves. Just boxy shapes. We live in boxes, travel in boxes, and work in boxes. It fucking sucks.

>>127701402
>south america
>literally just looks iberian

don't try to pretend that people outside of europe and east asia have a culture

>>127701402
Because capitalists are cheap whores

>>127701402
jewish architecture

>>127701532
Yeah, literally no one cares about "identity" any more. The private sector just hires architect who will make everything out of steel and glass because it's "the thing" now, and the government either doesn't have the money or is spending it on something that will actually keep the ruling party in power. My cousin is an architect and he hates his job to death because he'll never get to build something he'd like to see built

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>>127702364
then she will be forced to drink every single semen i give to her and to the point that she depends on it everyday then when she at hospital she'll be fed semen by drip everyday while requiring to suck my cock everyday 24/7 and if she bites it she get shot cause no one bite my penis my penis is more precious than her life but then her life depends on my cum cummy cum:))))))))

>>127701402
Is that wood on the Russian buildings?
That's an arson case begging to happen.

Europe still retains buildings such as that. Hell I see newer architecture here that has such style.

Asia I have no idea. Although from history, I could say blatantly that traditional craft would be extremely up-market and again, arson case.

South America I suppose Cuba has that market still but they're too busy huffing the paint to make anything vibrant with it.

Not saying 'muh modern architecutre' is superior craftsmanship, I'm not in the trade. But, as such you'll still find botched minimalism and regressive slot-skyscrapers because a temple in the metropolitan area will get greenlit for graffiti, or tourism.
And god forbid that anything not be just business.

Where's Africa

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>>127702681
AFRICA BTFO HOW COULD THEY RECOVER?!?!?!

>>127702681
Africa went from pyramids and ancient visitor -
kangz hybrids to mud huts

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>>127701402

>>127701402
So you can't say you have any culture and bring more migrants.

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>>127701535

Modern efficiency is "Jews", but watching cartoons and being an estrogen filled loser is totally red-pilled amirite?

Man-hours are much more expensive today than they were before, meaning we prefer to use modern low-maintenance materials and modern construction techniques with few decorations.

>>127701402
Well though I do admire traditional architecture and the beauty that resides with it, I can't ignore why buildings are being built the same way with the same drab, flat style: it's practical. The reason we build these flat boring skyscrapers with lots of windows is because they're cost effective to build, don't require as much time as a stone ediface or more stylised works and from the inside large windows offer great views. Now this does lead to some not so good trade offs as even the strongest windows can shatter unlesss you make them out of something retarded thick, and so must be replaced at some point. People are building high rises and skycrapers not to build something beautiful that will also have practical use as office space but are simply building maximized office space for use. Long term these buildings have to redone, have the metal and plastic sheeting on the exterior replaced with the windows every couple decades whereas more traditional buildings, though don't offer large windows usually, require less maintenance even over a century or two. If you want a good thought experiment, examine your local buildings and ask, if everyone were to just up and vanish, what would be left standing in two or three centuries? The modern buildings of mostly glass would eventually collapse after water gets in, after all the glass will shatter or break over time. But those with stone edifice and smaller windows would hold up for at least a century before the elements destroys it internally. It's unfortunate that we've gone the other route but what can we do I guess.

>>127702490

>European education

Holy fuck are you actually this stupid? Or are you just pretending?

>>127701402
A globalized world needs globalized shitty buildings and English streetsigns.

Not sure what your problem is, our unis teach people that national identity is bad and corporate profits are everything.

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>>127703416
>watching cartoons and being an estrogen filled loser is totally red-pilled amirite?
>implying

>>127701402
Cultural marxism/globalism

>>127701402

Because the Jews don't want you to be happy. A happy world is a free-thinking one. If you're happy, you won't buy your masters goods and help them rule the world. :^)

Because function https://youtu.be/BFjEzNTxxYg

>>127701402
Space is a commodity

>>127704014
why do you post this everywhere

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>>127703795

>j-jokes on him, I'm not FILLED with estrogen...

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>>127702681

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JUST

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>>127704304
>j-jokes on him, I'm not JEWED because I dont watch cartoons...

efficiency, traditional buildings can take over a decade to build while most of these modern buildings take up to 3 years at most.

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>>127701402
Whenever they try to imitate the traditional style it usually sucks.

>>127705164
Who the fuck thought that was a good idea? It's like they wanted to make it traditional yet modern and abstract all at the same time. Please tell me this is just an elaborate shop.

>>127701402

Society became all about business, business, business.

I'm not just talking about architecture, because there are practical reasons for that, but even interior design and decoration has become boring, cold and sterile for no good reason other than "work is cool goyim! don't relax!"

>>127702490
Actually, yes, we fucking do

>>127704621
has russia ever had good architecture? don't give me that byzantine WE WUZ tier shit either

>>127701402

Asian architecture looks like shit.

And no way do all skyscrapers look the same.

>>127705332
>Who the fuck thought that was a good idea?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilfried_van_Winden

this guy

>>127701402
(((POSTMODERNISM)))

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>tfw new grand cathedrals and Gothic architecture never ever
I can't be the only one with a hard on for these kinds of buildings

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>>127706032
Trigger warning

https://youtu.be/5Gg6HbjpYXc

>>127701402
They discovered how to build steel and glass structures which are far cheaper and more durable. If you want to deal with the problems of maintaining a medieval building for your home or office, do it.

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>>127703014
fify

>>127701532
>Cost
>Time
So what, were people 200 years ago so much richer than today?
>Function
Beautyfull buildings can be functional.
>Sustainability
I bet older buildings tend to last more than modern quickly build crap.

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Destroying traditional architecture = huge blow to national identity.

>>127706666
>Vlad the Implier rolls Satan quads
Checked

>>127706455
Also, way faster to build these days

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhLk7L1B_fE

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>>127702404
And we pray to black boxes

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>>127706455
>durable
pic related was demolished because the basement started to rot away, thus making the entire building unstable.

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>>127702490
I swear every time a belgian flag posts it's always a low iq retarded comment.

>>127701402
Because it takes time and effort Jew and we must defeat the Jew so we can become chimps again.

>>127706949
>demolished because the basement started to rot away
the joys of communism

modern modular maintainable

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commieboxes are even worse, they are a ticking time bomb. They were built for 40-50 years, not for eternity You can't renovate them eventually they'll start rotting from the inside.
In a gas explosion or a fire, they'll collapse like a house of cards.

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>>127706920
Lol the Saudis have ruined the local history and architecture of Mecca
>now

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>>127707505
>then

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Tbh modern luxury houses look actually very good

>>127707330
>You can't renovate them eventually they'll start rotting from the inside
Just throw some paint on them and they're A-OK

t. post-socialism

Even in my most bluepilled days this bothered me. I was in an (European) Ethnic neighborhood this weekend and it struck how the buildings maintained a distinct sense of beauty and were well maintained. This was a ghetto these people were forced into. Now it's the most aesthetic neighborhood in my city, one of the most expensive and a destination for tourists. Identity is a powerful thing.

>>127707837
No it doesn't you retarded communist

>>127706666
>>Sustainability
>I bet older buildings tend to last more than modern quickly build crap.

Thats the point Satan
Need to keep the construction industry working

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>>127707201
>Build your disgusting office building with a regular basement 50 meters form the river bank
>Basement gets flooded every year
>30 years, and the ferroconcrete is beyond repair
>Government decides to demolish the abandoned building and build a new one with the original facade plans
>(((modern architects))) start chimping out, saying it was a masterpiece
pic related is from the basement.

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>>127708009
This was a working class Irish neighbourhood in my city, the residents went to work in the distilleries nearby. Now these houses are millions of dollars

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>>127708009
>>127708239
And this is a modern lower class neighbourhood, one of the poorest neighbourhoods in Canada

>>127707837
I like it, would probably be fun to stay there for a few days. But actually living in such a home seems like a nightmare

Looks like something I would've built in The Sims

they have such wonderfully progressive diversity NOW though, all those old buildings were racist because they made foreign people feel bad because it didn't look like back home in "Syria" so now everywhere looks the same because we're all the same race the human race god bless i need to go smell my own farts now

>>127701402

And this is why when (((they))) say "diversity", I have no idea what the fuck they're talking about

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>tfw they build so many mcmansions

>>127708239
>>127708340

Next time someone says that we are richer than our ancestors, point this out as a counter example. It doesn't get any more obvious than this.

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>>127708071
How so?

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>>127707837
looks a little tacky tbqh anon
I'm a minimalist who loves the international style of architecture but I'm conflicted.
They were mostly (but not all) lefty socialists, and minimalist architecture is generally soulless and I think bad for the soul.
The japanese are very good at having the best of both worlds and finding harmony in even small spaces, but tinyhouses are narcissistic garbage.

>>127707201
More like the joys of armoured concrete

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>>127708502
That's really nasty, we never really get anything like that here. Pretty much every single house here that's built today is emulating some old style I think it turns out pretty good

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>>127704621
Nigeria has buildings? I knew they weren't as shitty as most of Africa but i didn't know they had buildings with more than two floors.

I just tagged myself, traitor (((Trump))) will be impeached.
>>127708695

>>127705557
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinist_architecture

>>127707837
If you're a exhibitionist whore maybe

>>127702814
just stop please, you're embarassing

>>127708555
It's ugly as hell, has no character is cheap and disgusting. It will last maybe 10 years then need to be torn down. We have huge problems here with these glass boxes the glass always falls out because of our weather it's retarded

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Oy vey let me improve your buildings goyim.

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>>127703416
D-DELETE THIS!

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>>127708925
I hate this so much, I remember when I was a kid and you would enter from the old enterance into this beautiful foyer

>>127707837

The final evolution of modern architecture is the greenhouse

>>127701402
Cultures are getting blander for everyone to fit in. Thank globalization for that.

>>127708213
That looks like something that could have collapsed any moment

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>>127708925
Now you enter through here

>>127708678
they have a lot of oil money

>>127705557
Look up Moscow metro

Anyone who's been to China can tell you that picture simply isn't fucking true. There's plenty of gorgeous and uniquely Chinese tenements and skyscrapers.

>>127709130
you have to go back

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>>127709201
People living in the first world can afford to travel overseas for holidays, Tyrone.

>>127709078
jesusfucking christ, thats so disgusting

>>127701402
Have you ever noticed how modern architecture appears everywhere but seems to belong nowhere? Reminds you of its (((architects))).

>>127708678
They've scammed their way into some buildings mate

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https://youtu.be/JP5wYlyqmck

We need another world war

>>127709375
They realised their mistake and want to move back to the old enetrance, sounds good but they hired an architect to do some renovations. Now I'm worried they'll destroy another part of the museum

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>>127701402
Some stuff going up in NYC.

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>>127701402

Maybe we're in Limbo.

>>127704621
>nigeria
Jesus, you could've told me that this was somewhere in the southern US and I would've bought it.

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What this piece of beautiful Renaissance architecture really needs is some glass and awnings

>>127709484
Did this all happen under faggot Trudeau

>>127705479
> interior design has become cold sterile and boring
firstly,
> interior design critique
found the fag.
> it's cold sterile and boring
wood is expensive, heavy and not as strong as glass concrete plastic and steel
wood also invites termites, is MUCH more expensive to maintain or even clean, and harbours pathogens, allergens and pests.

would you prefer a hosptial surgical theatre constructed of stainless steel and plastics, knowing it is sterile cold and boring, or one with old tatty paneling, ratty carpets and peeling paint?

public spaces have to accommodate public needs, not your personal interior design ethos.

>>127701402
all of these buildings are made primarily for functionality, but it must be said that buildings in the US and Europe feel a lot cozier than east asia

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>>127709646
a church in Toronto was turned from this...

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>>127709646

Put some squiggly benches on the roof to finish it off

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>>127709646
>>127709734
Into this
>>127709683
No... that was a decade ago it happened.

>>127701402
Our souls have become ugly.

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>>127707837
>>127708555

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>>127707837
Absolutely horrible. Looks incredibly uncomfortable and impersonal.There's hardly any architecture even, almost a glass box.

I just want traditional architecture back instead of modern crap, and gothic churches instead of brick ones, is that too much to ask for?

>>127706455
Because fuck beauty right that's like totally subjective and stuff let's just all build cheap, boring glass boxes.

How dull.

>>127702364
Are you seriously getting cucked over fucking anime?

>>127709695
That's because we know how to insulate the walls.

>>127701402
too expensive.

>>127704410
To be honest I actually like the cowshit thatch houses they build. Its a good use of resources. Far superior to the plastic, glass, and concrete monoliths of the modern world. Though both are inferior to the glorious log house of europe.

>>127707837
I also want to live in an Ikea desk.

>>127710206
It's a nightmare in summer when it's 30 degrees Celsius outside and you're trying to sleep. You can keep every window and door open and it won't change a thing.
What even is the point of Insulation? Just wear clothes

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One of my favourite buildings will always be the Customs House. The dome on the top is copper, and when ships sailed up the river to the port they'd be able to spot the Customs House easily from the ship so they could dock to pay their duties and so on.

Now it's owned by the University, and it's a venue for weddings and such things.

Really nice building. Not too big, not too small, nice on the inside, and the cellar where they used to impound goods has been turned into a private bar for guests. It's riverside with a dock attached. Right in the middle of the CBD.

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>>127709811

This came down in the Christchurch earthquake

>>127709958
>that illuminati vibes

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>>127709811

And this is what they want to replace it with

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>>127710186
Muricans always get cucked by brit posters

>>127710350
Too bad it's in shitty Australia.

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made this in paint real quick about a place near where I live. Fuck modernism

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>>127701402
because we are more efficient and better. + city build / personal suburban house.

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>>127710476
>germany's face when British rejects on the worst continent have built a better country in 200 years than they managed in 2000

>>127701402
Ironically, capitalism has a lot to do with it. Developers just want a safe generic design. What do they care? They will not actually use the buildings.
Governments try to protect identities of some districts by controlling new constructions while developers say that givernments are being too oppressing. Developers are iften from different places and they do not care about local identity

>>127708213
>>Government decides to demolish the abandoned building and build a new one with the original facade plans
>>(((modern architects))) start chimping out, saying it was a masterpiece
Based Hungary!
Well congrats. It's looks much better.

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>>127710350

Our old Customs house in Auckland's been turned into a shopping centre

What is it with /pol/ and your irrational hatred of good design? If you love white culture so much, why can't you appreciate the genius of Gropius and Le Corbusier?

>>127709694
>beauty takes effort goy, why not just live in this boring box so you can spend more of your free time browsing goybook?
>maximise those profit margins, chaim

>>127701402
because its not efficient

>>127701535
I was just about to post this. Post modernism is going to be the downfall of western culture.

>>127702490
This.

The problems are multiple, really. It's clearly a lot cheaper to mass manufacture synthetic materials to build houses/buildings than to carve intricate wood and stone to build with. Their would have to be billions of dollars of investment into making old architectural styles just as good as modern ones in turns of safety (earthquake proof etc). Older buildings may still be standing but that is with a hell of a lot of maintenance, more so than more modern buildings (which again would have to be researched to diminish). People also just don't give a fuck, so where is the market?

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>>127710350
Forgot to mention the most important part - imagine a copper dome not yet tarnished under a blazing Australian sun. It would have shone like the sun itself.

This isn't that dome, but it gives you an idea of the effect.

I wish they'd clean it up.

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If you get rich you could always commission a baroque/gothic house

>>127710911
That would have been beautiful.

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How do you want your iconic view, goyim?

>>127701402
Globalization

>>127710726

The Bauhaus movement was fundamentally internationalist, not European

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>>127710613
Germans have 2 speeds: cuck and sperg. Anglo Empire master race.

>>127710888
terms*

>>127709003
ur gunna get banned bro.

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Have you ever been to Istanbul? The Hagia Sophia is an awesome piece of architecture; they turks knew their shit.

>>127710447
looks like some new-age scientology shit

>>127711002
Literally everyone hates that fucking walkie talkie eyesore.

>>127711121
Oh you

>>127711121
>implying it's not an abomination now thanks to roaches

>>127711189
:^)

>>127711024
"International" in name, but it's primarily German, Swiss, and French. There isn't a single nonwhite Bauhaus designer, but /pol/ still pretends it's a Jewish ruse.

>>127710706
Walked past a few times, they're selling overpriced luxury goods to stupid Chinese tourists who don't know any better

capitalism means efficiency and cost effectiveness eventually defeats any other forum of cultural expression

>>127710996
What do you Brits think about the proposed redevelopment of Battersea Power Station?

I think it looks pretty cool.

>>127701402
Regulations for the most part. You'll find that those old buildings are literally illegal to build today.

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>>127711445
Forgot pic.

Fuck I am retarded tonight.

>>127711121
just in case some newfags don't get the joke, the turks didn't build that. the greeks did.

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>>127708213
Foundations can always be underpinned and reinforced, and usually it is cheaper than destroying the building.

They are torn down because they are on a high value lot and the new owner tears it down and makes something more profitable.

>>127710448
i have a sudden urge to take a shit n fap to nigger porn. i know ill end up regretting later

>>127710911
My city has an old building with two copper dome-thingys, they look very good with the green

>>127701402
Architecture =/= Identity

>>127701532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHw4MMEnmpc

>>127711445
eh, looks like every other building in London. Endless sheets of glass with exposed metal supports. Nothing new really.

>>127711508
Imagine that on a rainy day. They'll look like commie blocks.

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Can't forget this gem.

It's because Jews felt no connection to European architecture and wanted something independent of of the western tradition.

>>127711428
Efficiency and simplicity has its own beauty. Take Porsche for example.

>>127711313

It's Jewish in spirit if nothing else

>>127711726

It is a part of identity, all the old style lineages have been replaces with a big metal box with lots of windows, and the design brief for "landmarks" amounts to "how can I use modern engineering to make wacky shapes that were impossible to build a few decades ago"

>>127711508
Hate it, why isn't it a power station still? Maybe their hydro bill will be cheaper

>>127711121
that hurt a little senpai :(

>>127712077
That's more an issue of aesthetic ugliness, rather than identity.

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>>127710888
> It's clearly a lot cheaper to mass manufacture synthetic materials to build houses/buildings than to carve intricate wood and stone to build with.
No one's saying we should build stuff out of wood, but even with modern materials you can still get a nice look and details. A lot of the carvings are plaster, and I'm pretty sure they can be mass produced. The Colloseum was built out of cement and lime stone and still looks great, and is still standing.
>Older buildings may still be standing but that is with a hell of a lot of maintenance, more so than more modern buildings
Source? What's the difference in maintenance? Probably worth it.
>People also just don't give a fuck, so where is the market?
Not true, people just don't have a choice.

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We are all living in crypto-communism.
Cant believe people are that blind.

>>127701402

It costs more for less benefit. Sentimental human desires have been replaced by machine-like pragmatism.

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>>127711112
No I won't darling.

>>127701532
Sustainability? Some of these buildings lasted 100's of years whereas my "luxury apartment" was always under repair.

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Look at this
This is what the world used to be like
Architecture represents a society's soul
Our soul is barren, faceless and lost

Are there any cases where modern styles (either brutalist concrete, or glass&steel-only) actually result in something that can be considered asthetic?

>>127701402
>Housing
>South America
?????

>>127712281
How is that anything new? Even the Roman architecture that Hitler circlejerked over was designed for function first, not form.

>>127712530

Where did I say it was new? Are you alright?

>>127701402
I would like to see skyscraper or any other building blocks designed in native culture style.

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>>127701402
Because Jews have many things, but not taste.

>>127701402
Ours are a mix of the second European and the second South American ones. Pretty cool.

>>127712138

Every city looks exactly the same these days, the architects that work on a building in Saudi Arabia also work on buildings in America, Europe and Asia. It used to be cities had a personality, today for the most part you can't tell one from the other

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>>127712443

>>127701402
>sweden
>6 million people
>scary low birthrates

ARE YOU FUCKING DENSE?

You littetally want to build stuff not to sell but to stuff with migrants that comes from africa for your welfare, fucking swedish cucks.

>>127701535
fpbp

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>>127712655

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>>127712616
>>127701402

>>127712646
I don't really mind that, my biggest problem is that they're horrendously ugly.

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>>127711550
>Foundations can always be underpinned and reinforced, and usually it is cheaper than destroying the building
That building is special. It's above the metro station, that's why the govt didn't want to demolish it first, only change the facade of the building.
Of course, the building could've been saved, but it would've been really expensive, and nobody wanted to renovate something that is hated by everybody.

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>>127711552
Noo, fap to Revy instead you wont be disappointed

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>>127701402
Open your eyes. We still build beautiful stuff. Those modern skyscrapers aren't standard but very efficient in industrial/business districts. Try building a traditional European building in the middle of the business district where 100 companies can fit in and are able to pay the rent. Impossible.

It's not like every town and village loses its identity because of modern architecture.

>>127712646
Funny thing is that most of those architects are American (look up Adrian Smith). If anything, it's promoting Western identity.

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>>127712330
>>127712330
Enjoy your b&, containment board escapee
Nice taste in pone btw

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>>127712273
Would you really want mass produced "nice looking" buildings with an older style, though? Wouldn't that feel cheap and soulless?

Maybe i am wrong on the maintenance but there are examples in the UK at least. The houses of parliament are being held together with duct tape and chewing gum, for example.

I really don't think ENOUGH people care. They want to have four walls and a door. People have better things to worry about.

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>>127712273
The facade for this is made of cast iron there's a lot in Manhattan that were built like this

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Brought it up in the thread yesterday. I'm saving up for a property to build a late Medieval timber frame house, Fachwerk/Tudor style. I have experience with cabins and barn building and don't expect this to be terribly difficult despite being time and labor consuming. Anyone want to build a village of them with me? They'd look nicer clustered

>>127711002
How the fuck was that even allowed?

>>127701402
cultural enrichment through globalism

>>127712989
If people didn't care why does everyone who can commission a house get one built in an old style? Why are modern houses still so rare?

>>127705557
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_architecture

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>>127712971

>>127713033
>/pol/ starts its own village built entirely in medieval European styles of architecture

>>127712903
Those towers look a bit tacky desu
The best ornaments are those who support something functional

what should I have for tea as a pick me up lads? Feeling extremely black pilled at the moment.

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>>127713191

>>127702639

>Is that wood on the Russian buildings?
That's an arson case begging to happen.

That's the plan

>>127705557
Wtf burger. Moscow and especially st. peterburg are very good looking citys.

>why don't we build super expensive buildings that will be no more than 10 stories tall in the middle of this city

Really makes you think...

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>>127713269
It was a exhibition faire, philistine.

>>127702639
>That's an arson case begging to happen
Dude are you retarded? Or is Australia just Mad Max, everyone running around burning down buildings for fun?

>>127713107
You should see the new housing around where i live that has popped up in the last 5 year. There isnt a shortage of modernity around here, m8. The houses look ridiculous

>>127712876
Yes, the modern housing estates being built everywhere are just as beautiful as the old cottages down the road.

>>127713293
Cumberland sausage with a beef, beer and onion based gravy and a side of chunky chips lad.

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>>127711121
D E L E T
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>>127704621
Do you have a more efficient way to make buildings with several dozens of floors and make them all bright inside? I'm all ears.

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>>127713540
Absolutely this, m8.

>>127713396
>expensive
They're not even half the price of modern crap.

>>127713239
sounds like paradise

>>127713293
Kebab

>>127710922
Absolutely stunning property. The garden is quite nice too. Plus I like the manlet sized beds. Gave me a good chuckle.

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>>127713400

>>127713464
Modern houses are extremely rare here, at least in Toronto nobody I know likes them I think euros like modern stuff better because they have less of it

>>127713643
Don't. Have less people instead.

>>127713643
How about "don't build stupidly dense cities".

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Modern architecture can be beautiful too. Everyone is just posting bad examples.

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>>127712989
Mass produced doesn't mean it's any less better, I don't know why you'd think that. And it's not soulless because it's still designed by an artist, just using a computer program instead of manual work.
>The houses of parliament are being held together with duct tape and chewing gum
That one example doesn't mean shit, amybe they would rather pocket the money than spend it on maintanance. I actually heard glass buildings are much higher maintanance.
>I really don't think ENOUGH people care.
I'm pretty sure 80+% of people do care, but what are they gonna do about it? And building nice building wouldn't actually be that much more expensive, especially if you consider how much is already being spent of some of the moren crap. Yah, older buildings require some plater for the facade, but I boubt it costs more than an abomination like pic related.

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>>127713800

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>>127713400
Oke, that changes it ofc.

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>>127713693
No, they're actually much more expensive to build up to modern building standards. Also, good luck keeping one of those buildings cooled / warm in the summer / winter.

>>127709633
>>127708678
People in Africa don't actually live in huts.

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>>127713861
Wow that block of glass really sings to my soul.

>>127713861

>pic unrelated

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>>127713504
They are not only more beautiful than that old rotting shit but also more efficient and reliable with more space.

>>127701402
tl;dr efficiency

>>127714052
How to keep warm in winter
>put clothes on
How to keep cool in summer
>open the window
Insulation is a meme to bring up the price of the property, I had no power for 2 weeks it was -25 outside I could see my breath in my room, all I had to do was wear a house coat and I was fine.

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This skyscraper was build during Franco's regime.

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>>127714167
Trust goymoney to not have a soul.

>>127704410
Let's be honest the average anon of stuck into the savannah would not produce a home as good as that.

>>127701402
I dont see a problem with either. eventually they'll begin to bring back the "classical" architecture and itll be modern hybrides and they'll look sick we're developing, this has always happened you people are becoming old fucking men about everything, you're the new post-modernists.

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>>127714025
Genuinely surprised. Mods probably just haven't seen you yet, lad.
I got banned for 2 days for posting pic related on /int/ because it's a blue board

>>127712761
Looks very cozy Portu-bro

>>127713239
Not a "/pol/" thing necessarily, but it'd be nice if some lads were interested. All of my friends IRL give me shit for it and liking historical preservation or accurate historical designing. They're either dull normies or degenerate academics that have stupid and unnecessary opinions about anything I try to tell them about

I am also looking to get a nice stream to build a mill, a large wooded area, and some Meadows. It'd be neat to eventually build more houses and rent them out to tourists or interested people. I'm just planning the one thus far though

>>127710817
USA is not part of Europe jamal

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>>127713643
>what is the traditional high-rise architecture of new york

just because it needs to ascend into low orbit it doesn't mean it has to be a disgusting glass block. You can still have large windows for 'muh natural light' and not compromise on the decor, you fuck

>>127714056
Oh yeah, let's build some of those castles in the middle of our city for all the hundreds of companies. I'm sure they are fine with the double closts and less space

>>127714371
I rather have space, money and a warm room than an 300 years old house with "soul"

>>127701402
Everything since the 50s has basically been disposable.
There are some nice schools in my city that still rocked that neo classical look after the 50s but other then that skyscapers look more brutalism style

>>127706032
The frenchcucks would unironically not that down to build a mall

>>127714522
PANIC ON THE STREETS OF LONDON
PANIC ON THE STREETS OF BIRMINGHAM

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>>127707072
this. the world's cultures were post space-warp age, but we just weren't intelligent inuf to understand them

pic says it all

>>127708340
>commie blocks plz

>>127702490
>be non country
>thinks everyone else is also a non country

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Cities were a mistake desu.

>>127714503
Where would that village be located?

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what do you think of when you see a building like this? function? durability? utility? Of course you don't you contrarian faggot

I think of IBM servers, sharp suits, the moon landing, coffee in styrofoam cups, demolishing the Soviets.

>>127708925
I like how it looks like a giant crystalline tumour.

>>127714522
So, should they build skyscrapers out of brick? At those heights they need to consider wind and the weight of the building pushing down against the foundation. A 100 story brick building would crush any sewer or subwway system under it.

>>127714052
>No, they're actually much more expensive to build up to modern building standards

Yeah, because they aren't using the cheapest of materials and because of it they have a shelf life of more than 30 years.
Honestly I fucking hate you kikes.

>>127710447
(((glass)))

>>127714056
Castles are nice for pictures, but do you really think nostalgia is worth more than good design, modern technology, and optimization?

>>127701532

You can still make it look good.

>>127703416
I like how they say don't reproduce like involuntary celibacy isn't a thing

>>127714858
Eastern PA. If I go a bit more central I can get a lot larger properties for cheaper and have better access to wooded lots, so I'm conflicted on which County to buy in. I live in Philadelphia and could still commute to work if it were not too far though

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>>127714988
>(((optimization)))
It would be great if everyone were a soulless drone, eh Chaim?
The best we can do is break their spirits.

>>127714873
That building is actually good though. It fucking commits. It looks cutting edge and modern, just like you said. It captures the edginess of brutalism without the tryhardiness that undermines it, and it's unapologetically aggressive and assertive instead of just being passively ugly like most other glass monstrosities.

10/10 architecture there. Would cyberpunk in.

>>127714969
(((the transparent jew)))

>>127702393
>>127701532
>>127715076

Here is the thing though. There are companies out there that do nothing but design buildings and people who spend careers doing nothing but that.

Why cant they do all this and look good. You dont have to sacrifice to find at least some levels of beauty.

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Beauty is being assassinated.
Art, music, architecture, literature, entertainment.

All in the name of modernisation and efficiency.

>>127701402
cultural marxism
modern "Art"
no fucking values

>>127711508
not much you can do with a red brick monstrosity like that, it was ugly to begin with, and arguable less ugly after

>>127715369
Money is time.

>>127701402
>Why don't we build beautiful stuff anymore?

(((D I V E R S I T Y)))

>>127701402
Growth =/= stability

We are in a period of unsustainable growth and we have to shit out as many factory apartments and houses as possible. If everyone wasn't shipping in 1000's of refugees or trying to adapt to the newest technology then we could build something original. Even new buildings today are terrible because they don't take into account half the shit the needs to be updated. If these architects were smart they'd setup an efficient system to install cabling and wiring. Same with city planners, it's fucking retarded that we have to dig up the fucking roads to get anything done.

>>127705164
kinda like it desu. more interesting than most buildings in my city

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>>127715172
I have a pretty extensive knowledge on the exposed timber frame architectural style in the US. If anyone wants to talk about it. And yes we did have and still have a few examples of it left

>>127715253
basically this.
Go all in with the modern design, right angles, steel and glass. Cold, clinical and enormous has its own appeal just like the buildings from the past just stop fucking up good architecture with half hearted "I attended art school and have a thing for fucking up heritage listable buildings" bullshit.

>>127715177
>conflating crappy eastern bloc architecture with genuinely well-designed Modernism
Have you been to any Japanese Buddhist temple? Minimalism doesn't have to equal soullessness.

>>127714955
there are plenty of solutions to this. for example, you can use facades of stone and other traditional materials on the exterior to both cut down drastically on weight and substructure stress, and also allow room in the walls for the much needed insulation at higher altitudes. As for wind, the issue is not much different from the glass versions you speak of. It would just depend on the shape and aerodynamic design of each building.

>>127701402

We do. That you find habitation towers ugly is your problem

Ever since the lift was invented, single housing became extremely impractical in major cities

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>>127715544
Time is money friend

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>>127701402
>>127701535
kikes unironically push for something called deconstructivism, in which they represent the destruction of the west with parasitical chaotic parapets

of course the architect who designed this won the new world trade center design, he is a kike and also is possibly involved in pizzagate

enjoy your new internationalist architectures goy!!! you fucking goy
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>>127703416
>estrogen filled loser
it's not like he could avoid drinking tap water his whole life

>>127714955
bullshit, glass could even be of different colors
but not even that, its all the same shitty blue hue

its getting cheaper to make distinctly shaped towers, but they all do the same shitty curves. some are also clad with aluminum panels, and they all use the same shitty model

its all shit, these architects are all trying to design an iphone

>>127715859
Pay me and your building won't be steel and glass :)

>>127714167
We know you feel the need to abandon your heritage because youre guilt-ridden about a certain son but we aren't all like you.

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>why don't we build beautiful stuff anymo-

>>127716167
What do you have against aluminum and glass? Do you also insist on flying in cloth biplanes instead of modern airliners?

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>>127714326
fascism could have saved architecture

>>127716167
the blue hue is tinting against the sun, because a glass building is basically a greenhouse
these are just basic design requirements, but you dont need to make a glass and steel building every time

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>>127704621
truly beautiful.
only primitive apes have a problem with this

>Cultural destruction

>>127706949
based magyar

>>127716413
>all those dumb columns
it would be more efficient if they were replaced and used as spaces for offices