Pledge of Allegiance

>>127689737
Ha ha it's been more than 10 seconds. Delete your thread.

>>127689737
If you think about it, every teaching is indoctrination.
Regardless, there is nothing wrong with nationalism.

>>127689737
Everything is indoctrination. It's just a question of whether your indoctrination is helpful or harmful.

>>127689737
it's a voluntary renewal of the social contract, you can opt out of being american at any time the pledge is raised

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Nothing wrong with teaching kids to be loyal to their country and imposing Nationalistic thought into them.

Sure as fuck beats the shit we're putting in their heads these days.

>>127689737
There is only one way how not to "indoctrinate" a child. Leave him as a newborn in a deep forest.

>>127689737
Amerifats unironically do this?!

BWAHAHAJAHAHAJAHAHAAAAAA

>>127689737
Whats wrong with indoctrination?

>>127690287
>>127690358

You do realize that the pledge was written by a socialist in order to sell flags to schools, right?

>>127689737
i wish we had something like the pledge of allegiance. everyone is so fucking dumb around here when it comes to our country they have no idea our rich history and what our WHITE forefathers fought for.
people around here just think our flag is neat and canada is so fun and cute. god, what the fuck. Sir John A. MacDonald would be spinning in his grave.

to your faggy question op, it's only "indoctrination" if you're dumb enough to let yourself be swayed by a pledge thats what, 20 seconds long? it's nice to remind yourself of why you're able to sit freely in a classroom and do that. or don't. as far as i know it isn't a requirement these days in most american schools (although it should be). if you don't like it, get out.

>>127689737
Notice that it's "pledge allegiance to the FLAG of the United States of America"

Not "government", not "president" - "flag"

The flag is the representation of the country's ideals and goals.

If you're not willing to pledge allegiance to a country's flag you shouldn't be fucking living in it

Yes. It is indoctrinating white kids to grow up and serve the Jewnited Snakes of Amerika government. Indoctrinating them at a young age ensyres the goyim will fight the wars of the Jews

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it standa, one nation, under God, with liberty and justice for all.

It's called nationalism you cucks, and it's a surefire way to spot the commie edgelords who don't participate.

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>>127690541
You do realize Hitler was a Socialist too right?

Also saying "you do realize" is a dead giveaway that someone is from reddit. Fuck off queer.

>>127690622
This. It's a pledge to the Republic, and more importantly your countrymen, not to the elected officials.

>>127689737
The flag represent the people. They are celebrating their own greatness liberated from guilt and oppression.

>>127689737
if it was indoctrination, why did we become so cucked?

Americans require something like that since their nation is not a naturally occurring one but a mess of mongrels. Thus the nationalism must be artificially installed and constantly enforced with a heavy hand. That is also why you need the silly "support the troops" crap. You must have that shaming culture or otherwise your military-industrial complex can't wage wars anymore. Hell it's why you had to get rid of the draft after 'Nam and change paradigm.

>>127690675

The pledge of allegiance is good in principle, it has been hijacked by Jews. The Jews have hijacked the Jewnited States government. The pledge of allegiance in a Jew nation means to die for the Jews at the expense of the goyim

>>127690287

>contract

Kids don't understand what it actually means, thus defeating the entire point of a contract.

>voluntary

Not voluntary. Kids who don't do it get referrals, detention, social ostracism. I remember public school.

It's literally indoctrination...

>>127690604
We used to stand for O Canada every day when I was in elementary school. Did they get rid of that already?

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>>127690541
>socialist
>selling things

>>127690750

LOL more Hitler demonizing. Hurr durr Hitler was a socialist therefore it makes him bad hurr durr. Yeah, let's forget all the great plans he had for the white race and concentrate on the SOCIALIST part. National Socialism is not right or left wing, it truly works for the people. Communism is evil

>live in America
>pledge allegiance to the Republic of Wichistanz
???

>>127690788
No they don't. That's a lawsuit waiting to happen. We always had antifa-tier kids who remained seated. Are you unwilling to pledge your allegiance to the Republic and your countrymen? Get out if so, we don't need you.

you can literally omit any part of it you want including all or none at all.

also, a base of nationalism is needed to be instilled or else the nation won't last long. nations don't last by non-attributing themselves to their history and culture

>>127690769
We still have the draft. It just hasn't been used since Vietnam. Every military aged male must submit their selective service documents.

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>>127690865
>my specific brand of wealth redistribution and worker-controlled factories is good! Not like that other kind!

>>127691061
Yes but your military can never ever use it and still be able to invade whatever shithole it wants invaded.

>>127690818
not sure. i stood for o canada until i graduated in 2007. i went to catholic school too so we had to stand for prayers/"a moment of silent reflection" too. fuck my feet hurt by 8:45, but honestly i look back on it now and i'm glad i had to do that. it builds character. whether you grow up to like it or hate it. it's better than never experiencing it.

>>127690622

Oh shut the fuck up. The word 'flag' is there so that the propaganda is less obvious. How stupid can you be not to see the obvious kikery? Who the fuck pledges alliance to a flag anyway? It's a metaphor for the state, you dip.

The pledge of alliance was implemented by a literal jew. And its not a coincidence that it was around the time when Israel began hijacking the U.S. military to fight its numerous proxy wars.

https://youtu.be/pjKFIim6Gj8
This should be the pledge of allegiance.

>>127690944

>if you don't like it here, leave maymay

It's sad that you think that the degree to which you have absorbed jewish propaganda makes you a virtuous person.

>>127691156
>Who the fuck pledges alliance to a flag anyway?
This board used to pledge to a flag with the word "kek" on it and one with a swastika on it.

>>127691156
>It's a metaphor for the state
It's a metaphor for the ideals America was founded on you triplenigger, doesn't the mention of the flag in your own national anthem represent the same thing?

>>127691299

Real life does not operate on multiple levels of irony you fucking idiot. Do you honestly think anyone here unironically worships a lebbit flag?

>>127690788
children learn quite a bit by rote in elementary schooling, very few show the initiative to actively learn and so, because most teachers are fucking shills who didn't have the initiative to actively learn themselves, enforce rote order authoritarianism like the morons they are
>refusal gets detentions and referrals
source, please

>>127689904
>Regardless, there is nothing wrong with nationalism

Mild nationalism is ok,but if you wanna see hyper-nationalism.Go burn a flag and video record.Put it up youtube and facebook and look how the people react..literally no better then muslim extremist terrorists.

You're absolutely goddamn right its indoctrination.

But its it's indoctrination unto the country, which is a double wedged swordfish that can be both good and bad.

Either way, that's the way the crook tumbles.

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>>127691156
and the people are the state, why wouldn't you want to be in allegiance with them? It sounds like you have a grievance, our declaration of independence was based upon having too many grievances piled upon them- we'd hate to make you so aggrieved that you'd feel the need to declare yourself independent of us- why don't you air those frustrations and we'll see what this classroom republic can do about it

>>127689737

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjKFIim6Gj8

A pledge of allegiance is not directly indoctrination, but it serves to remind the citizen of his (or her) place in society. Greatness always came at a high cost and we should all be prepared to pay our share of that during our lifetimes.

We're all being indoctrinated in one way or another.
An adults indoctrinates himself judiciously.

>>127691619
it was a good try, but leafs like you are a diamond dozen

>>127689737
Builds up a moral compass and teaches you to be proud of what-ever you pledge to.

>>127689737

It's nationalism you fucking pussy.

>>127689737

No argument. It's pure brainwashing. Nobody should be allowed to cite the Pledge of Allegiance until they are in high school ... and then, only voluntarily. Children under high school age that repeat it should get scheduled visits from social services to try and address the dysfunctional and mentally ill household they are being brought up in.

Same goes for any children under high school age that are involved in any religious activities.

Brainwashing children is child abuse and needs to be ended.

>>127689737
It is and there's nothing wrong with it. You turds throw around buzzwords like indoctrination without really understanding what they mean.

>>127692514
alright, so we should also prevent children from having any contact on sexuality or gender identity until they become adults too, because that's also indoctrinating information

similarly, we can't have them learning how to read or use computers lest they get past our safeguards and ruin their innocent minds too early

>>127692514

To a certain degree you are right, though to bring up children without the morals thought by Christianity and the ten commandments children will grow up to be fucked up adults.

Actually this whole moral relativism led to the decline of the west in first place and started a few decades ago.

>t. fathers

All public schools employ brain decayed puppets to manipulate children into a functional mass for the next generation of the nation. In other words, all public schooling is forced indoctrination. We go along with it because the need for basic, foundational knowledge is a necessity and parents are all predisposed fucks who have too much of their own shortcomings to deal with proper upbringings. The pledge of allegiance is just a brief unmasking of the facade.
That said, you best believe nationalism is at its heart, and I fully support it for everyone who wishes to stand and share in the historic militarism, patriotism, and nationalism it collimates. I know my puppetmaster and it has treated me well.

>>127692514
Kids don't even take the pledge seriously. I bet most couldn't even tell you the words without saying them in cadence.

>>127689737
I see nothing wrong with taking all necessary means to ensure nationalistic values are strong in people. Starting as early in life as possible. Every country should do something like this

>>127689737
Teaching people to love their country is not indoctrination you shitwit, it's nationalism.

>>127690604
>Rich History
>Canada
Pick one

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>>127690541
>socialist
>wanting to make a profit

>>127689737
It is. But the good kind. Do you feel no allegiance to Australia? Are you some Islamist abo or some fucking thing? Kindly neck yerself, mate. Sage

I think you are asking about the Chinese word “白左”, could be translated into “white leftists” or “white liberals”. But please be aware, it does not refer to white or liberal, it is called “white leftists” just because their opinions are mostly left wing, and they are mostly Europeans or Americans.

From my perspective, Chinese think that “white leftists” are those idealist people who likes to take the moral high ground, but actually history blinded, reality blinded, naive, and always uses double standards. They are usually those people who takes those good deeds too far, and turning it fanatic. Their typical opinions includes: supporting accepting refugee even if it could danger their national security, a European woman got raped by refugee but refused to call the police, because she worries that it may affect other refugee; overlooking the fact and claims “terrorism has no religion”, when one specific religion committed 85% of the terrorist attacks; LGBT right is more important than those homeless people, etc.

Example. 跳转中... This guy protests against Trump, and self-righteously claims that Trump’s family are all immigrants, and now Trump wants to get rid of immigrants, so Trump is deporting his family if he wants to deport immigrants. But when he was ask “When Trump’s family immigrated, it was legal”, he does not know what to say, “OK... You're saying... just because......”, and then starts to talk about something else. He opposes Trump, because he thinks that immigrants should be kept in USA, that is the moral high ground, but he was so naive that he doesn’t even know the difference between legal immigrants and illegal immigrants.

Some Chinese people thinks that “white leftists” are “AIDS of civilization”. AIDS does not kill you, but it makes you undefended to other diseases.

https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-term-White-Left-%E7%99%BD%E5%B7%A6-refer-to-in-current-Chinese-views-on-politics

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I pledge allegiance
to the Flag
of the United Stripes of Kekistan,
and to the Board
for which it stands,
two Genders
under Pepe, indivisible,
with shit posting and memes for all.