Why is ISIS destroying ancient ruins?

Anti-western sentiments.

When they say Islam what they really mean is Arab conservatism, they are the conservative Arab state of Iraq and Syria. There is nothing more fuelling their movement besides a dislike for the west.

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They want to destroy everything that represents something other than Islamic sentiments.

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>>127677904
ISIS is Metal Gear Solid 4/5 level mercenaries who carry out the will of their master.

They're not even really muslim. Their orders are to fulfill the requirements for apocalypse.

As you can guess, we're talking some really weird big boss baddie. It's not some Saudi or Iranian guy.

More like Colonel Kurtz

>>127677904
this is probably one of the things that pisses me off the most about them

its not that they are just trying to piss people off or just to be dicks

they believe that this is demigod worshiping basically. statues and whatever else that are protected by humans and have nothing to do with allah or the prophet

-t a-rab

>>127677904
It goes back to Abraham. Abraham smashed the idols of whomever, and Mohammed followed suit by smashing the idols of Mecca. He only left one, that being the kaaba stone. By the way, the kaaba stone is what's inside the little black building all the muzzies swirl around once a year on whatever the fuck day it is they do it.

ISIS (along with the Taliban) think they are following in Abraham/Mohammed's footsteps by trashing historical artifacts.

>>127678396

I agree they serve some unknown force.

Why is it important to these masters to use these savages to destroy ancient structures?
What about our past do these masters want hidden?

>>127677904

Oh look, an anglo complaining about the destroying of culture

>ISIS destroying ancient sites: really really bad
>the allies destroying Dresden: super good

Fucking scum.

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>>127678094
>>127678218
>>127678516
>>127678540


I disagree that it's this simple.

I think ISIS is funded and directed by a larger group and is using them to destroy evidence of human's true history.

>>127677904
>>127678570
The human species was a mistake. We exist to suffer because we cannot coexist with one another. We obsess over power, and only thrive when there is conflict. Our very minds cannot thrive in a world where everyone has everything they've ever wanted, because we would cease to be happy.

We all need to die.

>>127677904
The mudslimes have been blowing shit up for no reason since the dawn of time. go ask them.

>>127678898
they hate idolatry and non-muslim religions,
anything bhuddist, christian, egyptian, etc... they consider blasphemy
it really is that simple >>127678540
when they tell you they want to die as suicide bombers because then they'll be rewarded with whatever amount of virgins they are telling you the truth

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>>127677904
>What is humanity's true history and why is it being destroyed?

True history? Pharaoh, Caesar, Japanese and Chinese Emperors really are gods - Moses is a fraud. That's why the number one principle of monotheism is "kill all pagan prophets and destroy all pagan art and myth!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=najju4SkdY4

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>>127677904
It is funny, because masked radicals are removing landmarks in your own country.

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>>127678861
I mean you did had it coming

>>127679232

interesting correlation

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>>127677904
Imagine the damage they would do in Europe...

Read Michael S. Heiser's "Unseen Realm"

That, my fellow anon, is the truth of human history.

sculptures with human face(form?) is major sin. thats way.

They're looking for the stargate

>>127679346
>you did had it

We speak English here.

You have to go back, Pablo.

>>127679515

but these have stood for thousands of years. why destroy them now?

>>127678898
It's not that simple, but it's the answer you don't expect. It's not actually Islam, because what is Islam? Depending on what you know it's either a religion or legal system.

The Arab conservatism stuff is fuelled by identity politics on the left who started thinking in 4d chess when it became obvious some attack from outside of the west hit America on 9/11. Because their tactic is basically "reparations until minorities aren't single issue voters" and have seen the welfare expense of owing reparations, they wanted to keep Arabs away from being considered oppressed minorities historically in ~200 years and contemporarily.

So they began a campaign if islamophilia and ignorance of Islamic attacks and told white women to welcome migrants with signs and spread legs. What was completely unexpected was the Arab world using this exactly to fuel more Arab conservatism creating more radicalisation.

This is 4d chess. Of course it's not simple. They are manipulating history as it's told by constructing narratives today. It's positively post-revisionism.

>>127677904
Because pre-Islam architecture reminds the people that Islam is not necessary for prosperity.

>>127678861
relax, hans. you're among literal nazis here. i wouldn't have bombed dresden.

>>127678218
this is better
than that:
>>127678094

the question is why are jews directing them to destroy human history? history is directly linked to identity and nation, jews can't create an identityless worker race if there is the possibility for anyone individual to be tied to their national/cultural history. so, like jews in the west are culturally annihilating anything remaining of western national identity (through mass importation of disparte cultures and the drumming of "the west has no culture" propaganda) so too are they trying to destroy national identity in the M.E.

>inb4 jews dont control isis
don't be naive darling

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>>127678898
Nope they are just radicalised individuals and they are destroying 'false idols',
when the US entered Iraq they destroyed heaps off artifacts

>During the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003, the National Museum in Baghdad was not only damaged by artillery shells and angry mobs, but also plundered by looters.

>>127680222
can't argue with those trips. imagine being such a camel fucker that museums trigger you into aploplexy.

>>127677904
ISIS is controlled by Israel.

>>127680080
this is the answer i am leaning towards

>>127678898
that would be worrisome if humanity didn't start out in europe. But white people wuz kangs. I forget where to find that study but it's been scientifically proven. All they are doing is hurting them selves with teh destruction of their own history. Of course if that ruin is old enough it could have clues about the rest of the world too.

Honestly the fact that ISIS destroys the only small clues we have left to our history as a species is enough for me to want them ended.

>>127678861
>muh Dresden
Deserved everything it got.

>>127680222
The arty shells I can believe but back then they weren't laser guided homing shells with millimeter accuracy like today.

But looting and mobs? Sounds like those dumb ass towel heads went looting like LA when the lakers win the finals.

>>127679759
>but these have stood for thousands of years. why destroy them now?

caz now they mad now and blame western(people/culture) for all suffer.

btw iran ruled by sharia rules but they dont destroy any ancient ruins.

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>>127680815

That's ironic seeing how it was YOU who started WW2.

When will you pay reparations?

>>127680815
>>127681008

The best part is by todays EU standards this is entirely correct.

>>127677904
They were planted there by Satan to trick people into thinking there was a time without Islam.

>>127678898
Why not both? Most grunts are dumb sand-eating shit skins that don't realize they are working for zionists.
https://youtu.be/cj0p2s-NmB8

>>127677904
Shirk

>humanity's true history
Don't care. Wipe all traces of Semites from the planet.

>>127677904
They're a Saturnine death cult seeking to erase all Aryan-Outerspace traces of higher non-Saturn worshipping civilizations so the better human nature can be erased and the archons/Jews/evil can rule globalism and enslave everyone to bad aliens.

>>127683796
Arabs are semites ... the giant buddhas, the mithraism of iran, etc was not semitic. They tend to destroy Christian and non-semitic stuff often

>>127679051
if you believe that, do your part to erase the node you're responsible for ... no one has ever had everything they wanted or needed. yes, we exist to suffer but we are definitely not a mistake ... an experiment gone awry but no mistake

>>127679051

I too enjoy Kado: The Right Answer.

>>127677904
Destroying cultural relics of other eras started with Wahabbism, an ideology from Saudi Arabia, America's greatest ally.

Muslims controlled these ruins for thousand years and never cared to destroy them, or even prohibit paganism.

>>127678898
yeah it's called the fake state of Is-ra-hell. Kenite Khazars who are offspring of the serpent(nachash) who are trying to destroy physical artifacts that show who the real Adamic peoples are. Hint it's not the Kenite Khazars Talmud followers in the Holy Land and elsewhere claiming that (((they))) are heirs to the promise to bring about (((their))) Talmud moshiach(FAKE messiah aka anti-Christ). Our Adamic brother Yeshua/Jesus is the REAL Messiah. NOT the Talmud/Kenite fake version that appears first.

>>127677904
Anything before islam is not permitted. Reminds people of pagan days. In the Quran prophets like Moses, Jesus, etc where Muslims since they received the true message from Allah. It wasn't until the final prophet Muhammad (pbuh) that set the record straight.

>>127677904
its like the jews destroying western architecture. They are trying to remove our culture to make it easier to replace us

>>127677904
remember that time they destroyed some temples and got hit with lightning from the gods a week later on the anniversary of 9/11

>>127680003
Tel Aviv and Haifa will go the way of Sodom and Gomorrah soon

>>127677904
It's actually incredibly easy to understand.

The muslims of the Islamic State are millennial. By that I do not mean that they are of the millennial generation. Rather, they believe in a prophecized final apocalyptic battle between the forces of good and the forces of evil that will usher in their deity's paradise for a thousand years.

One of the things that makes them particularly dangerous is that they're not just content to wait around until Armageddon happens. They think it is their religious duty to bring it about.

So how do they want to do that? Well, they think by provoking the west enough, we will come and fuck their shit up, thus setting up the final battle. And they're not stupid. Not some of them, anyway. Many are very educated western muslims, who went to our universities. They know our values. They know what pisses us off the most. They know what we find most horrific.

And so they just do those things.

That's why they destroy priceless historical sites. That's why they set people on fire in cages, and run them over with tanks. That's why they float people out onto water on barges, then sink the barges so they drown. These are from our western imagination. These are the worst things we could ever think of to do. The muslims are just hurting us the way that we came up with to hurt us the most.

And they think this will piss us off enough to start world war 3.

ISIS (Israeli Secret Intelligence Service)

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>>127685380
A

>>127683796
Descendants of Shem aka 'semitic" ARE ADAMIC. The Kenites in the Old Testament and the Khazars after ~740 AD have pretended to be Adamic.. Another part of the Kenite deception is that "semites" descendants of Shem, Noahs' son, who was descended from Adam, are all swarthy dark types, not so. Of course Noah had 2 other sons, Japheth and Ham. Look up the term "eth ha Adam" the man Adam.

>>127677904

There's an Arabic name that describes the practice of destroying non-Islamic historical artifacts. I can't remember what it is though. It even has a wikipedia page

>>127677904
Because the jews dont actually have a claim on israel and they're asking their puppet (ISIS) to destroy evidence that would prove this.

Just like the left, erasing physical proof of history makes it easier to re-write.

>>127685380
This is why we shouldn't kill them it's what they want. By letting them live we defeat them.

>>127686066
>>127685380
No, we do the worst thing they can imagine, glass Mecca, burn every Quran but those saved in the museums, art galleries, and libraries- should they ever leave those institutions then a swift execution to the custodians and the violator alike

>>127677904
Because they're cunts
-or-
>mfw they are the good guys
>mfw they are destroying areas of passage of the old ones
>mfw Daesh deliver us from Cthulhu

Fug

official story is that they're idols
they're selling it and destroying shit they can't move
because they don't need to explain to their local support why are the transportable shit are not in museums anymore

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ISIS aren't real.

>>127677904
history thats older than their made up fake god proves their fake god wrong.

>>127677904
because ISIS is a mossad asset and jews want to destroy everything non-jewish

Because the crusades destroyed their pagan relics. A Christian took the nose off the sphinx

>>127686066
Well, see, that's also what they want you to think. These people are chess players. They want to force us into a catch-22 where everything we possibly can do will benefit them in some way. Because if they get people like you to prevent us from fighting them, then they can take over the muslim world essentially unopposed, or at least without the Western military sword of Damocles stopping them. And let's be frank, the United States military specifically, but more broadly the combined military force of Western civilization, is unparalleled in its ability to conduct warfare. If we fight them there is no possible way they can win on the battlefield.

So if we don't fight them, they carve out their Caliphate. But if we do fight them, THEY think that'll unite all 1.6 billion muslims worldwide into a massive terror army to fight everyone else everywhere all the time.

But here's the rub. Just because they think it doesn't make it so. Sure, 1.6 billion people is a lot. But the rest of the 7 billion people are NOT muslims. And if muslims want a final battle between muslims and non muslims, they are badly outnumbered.

So really, that's exactly what we should do. We should give them the fight. Because we will win. They want to die. We want to kill them. We should do it. Then they won't have a problem any more. And the people who think that'll turn into allah's peace on earth for a thousand years will be proven wrong by facts.

>>127686942
Your evidence does not support your claim.

>>127686986
Damn they must be genius as fuck to keep something like ISIS under wraps and to fool everyone even the people who live with Isis. Guess Jews are the master race after all according to you since only the Master race could be that smart.

>>127687000
same logic really
christianity only took hold on europe once they took a huge steamy shit on original pagain culture

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>>127685380
It's stupid either way; demographic conflict is inevitable.

A nuke landing on Mecca would be the best thing in modern history, for very cold, cruel, and easily articulated reasons. Of the outcomes:

1) It'd incite WW3 w/ the Middle East, and do so while the Western World still held relative supremacy. A net win for the northern hemisphere.

2) If it didn't incite WW3, the cognitive shock of Islam's most holy site being destroyed would provoke a mental shift that could be exploited to enable a reform movement, sort of like how the destruction of Lisbon on a holy day provoked European intellectuals and religious thinkers.

>>127677904

Salam alaikum

The purpose of destroying these old monuments & ruins & sculptures is that they are upheld and exalted as idols and in some cases even worshipped. The Prophet (pbuh) delivered the law of Allah (swt) that all idols are to be destroyed, all glory and worship belongs to Allah (swt) alone.

>>127687457
Well, but you're forgetting the law of unintended consequences. You truly don't know the outcome of a nuclear strike on Mecca, except of course that Mecca would be nuked.

I have thought on this deeply, and I actually think it's very dangerous for this reason:

Imagine if after the strike their little stone survived.

Because that meteorite must be pretty damn resilient. It survived crashing into the Earth and the enormous energies involved in that. A nuke may well not damage it all that much.

But even if it were significantly damaged or destroyed, it would still be holy to the slimes. So they would almost certainly immediately start conspiracy theories of it surviving somehow. Like the Resurrection of Christ. They'll say allah magicked it into some other place, so they need to await its mystic return like that of the twelfth imam, or into some other form so they need to follow the reincarnation of the rock or some god damn retarded shit.

But you know what would be far better than that?

Imagine if it was captured by a special forces raid, and then taken to Fort Knox or maybe the British Museum.

Now that would really activate their almonds.

>>127687457
Nuking Mecca would'nt accomplish much. They'd still worship the crater and they'd be all like 'God wills it, we probably need to pray harder such cases'.

>>127679232
the arm on this telescop is so fucking dry

REAL muslims hate mecca/the kaaba btw. It is an idol and should be destroyed. Those that go there on hajj are devil worshippers.

>>127679772
Islam doesnt give a shit about culture or history, only islam.
Even islamic "history" is post revisionist

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>>127677904
Do I have to explain this? Alright, it's simple.

ISIS is a proxy army created by Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Israel, and of course the CIA. Their purpose is to make themselves as hated as possible to provide the US with cassus-belli to bomb/invade anywhere where ISIS is operating.

The chief aim of this is to provide them with an excuse to blow shit up in Syria, because Syria stands effectively between Israel and Iran, and Israel has been trying to get jets to Iran to blow up their nuclear reactors and research facilities for years. Syria is a bulwark against this because it's covered in Russian mobile SAMs--and Syria also possesses land which the Israelis want on top of that.

The plan was for ISIS to do so much mindlessly evil shit that nobody would ever even think of questioning any action taken against them. This gives the Americans and everyone else an excuse to blow up Syrian defensive positions (and SAMs) while claiming to be fighting ISIS. This would make the eventual Al-Nusra takeover of the country easier, after which time Israel can swoop in to secure the Golan Heights, AND, because we now know for a fact that ISIS is working with Israel, they will be able to slip fighters over the country into Iran to bomb them.

ISIS is and has ALWAYS BEEN a mercenary army in the service of the Israeli-Saudi alliance providing them with a convenient scapegoat for their own agenda in Syria.

Go listen to Ryan Dawson, he explains it better than me.

>>127677904

the official reason is idol worshiping

they argue that pagan buildings and any respect of them is just that

the real reason is they want to piss off everyone and made themselves look tough


the /pol/ reason is israel want to piss on the graves of their assyrian enemies and uses their ISIS lapdogs to do so

>>127687591
Nobody worshiped at the Temple of Bel in Palmyra for the past 1500 years. It has stood unmolested by every Islamic Caliphate that conquered the area, and every form of muslim government for the extent of that time. It was a threat to no one, not even moehommad or allah. The only reason the Islamic State destroyed it was because they knew that Westerners consider it a nearly pristine example of a Roman era temple from the early imperial period. The fact of the matter is that the Roman Emperor Aurelian in the 3rd century AD destroyed the Palmyrian splinter state and literally tore up the roads, redirecting them around the city so that trade routes would never go through it again, thus eliminating Palmyra as a strategically important place for all time. This is also, not coincidentally, why the Islamic State conquered it so easily. Aside from the ruins, there's nothing important about the place.

>>127688121

>Nobody worshiped at the Temple of Bel in Palmyra for the past 1500 years

So you acknowledge people worshipped there beforehand. It was an affront to Allah (Swt).

>>127688063

fuck off back to r/MAT you anti-trump shill

how does it feel knowing we're winning and getting 2 scoops you shareblue cunt?

>>127677904
Because ISIS is a creation of (((them))) and they want to destroy the history of other cultures they're envious of and want to control.
He who controls the past, controls the present. He who controls the present, controls the future.

>>127688063
>Israel has been trying to get jets to Iran to blow up their nuclear reactors and research facilities for years. Syria is a bulwark against this because it's covered in Russian mobile SAMs--and Syria also possesses land which the Israelis want on top of that.
Out of all the retarded shit in your post, this is the most trisomy-21. The Israelis have actually no shit flown jets over Syria to bomb the fuck out of nuclear reactors already in the past. They do not need the government of Syria to be overthrown to do that.

Honorable mention goes to your ignorance in how the Islamic State was formed, since it was a tiny Jaysh in Afghanistan in the late 1990s with perhaps a dozen members.

>>127680926
Those sculptures emerged from middle East not western nor eastern

>>127688192
Of course. It was a temple. But it has long since stopped being used for that purpose. There are plenty of holy sites that the muslims have not destroyed. Generally, they let the inconsequential ones remain. There was no reason to destroy the temple in Palmyra except to antagonize the West.

But even if you say that is a valuable thing, you should remember that the Islamic State did not destroy it outright. They booby trapped it and issued a threat first. They said if they were challenged for control of Palmyra, only THEN would they destroy it. So they held the ruins hostage. They did not blow them up for allah. They did it for material gain.

>>127687335
Hey Iraqibro, you should give us coordinate positions of ISIS fucks in your area..

So we can launch Hellfire Missiles at them.

>>127688570

Anything that was ever used for worship is an affront to Allah (swt). This does not change after 1 year or 100,000 years.

>>127688258
I didn't imply that any of that was Trump's fault. Actually, he seems to be going in a different direction. What I am describing goes back years before Trump was even running as a candidate, and before Obama was even president. In fact it is reasonable to suggest that this plot predates 9/11. We know for example that the Saudis were almost certainly involved in the 9/11 terror attacks--which gave the US popular support for a mindless invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq--where ISIS emerged.

This isn't Trump's fault, and in fact, I have been a strong proponent of him from the beginning, I believe firmly that he will NOT lead a larger invasion of Syria or Iran.

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>>127688676
And yet that is not why the Islamic State did what they did. They are hypocrites.

>>127678898
>islam haters think it's [x]
>jihadis themselves will tell you it's [x]
>must be [y]
bix nood

>>127688776

Of course they are, they aren't real muslims.

If they were real muslims they would be concentrating all efforts on destroying mecca.

>>127688386
>Honorable mention goes to your ignorance in how the Islamic State was formed, since it was a tiny Jaysh in Afghanistan in the late 1990s with perhaps a dozen members.
>since it was a tiny Jaysh in Afghanistan in the late 1990s
>Afghanistan
>late 1990s
Speaking of ignorance, that's a whopper

>>127687929
Real muslim, real jew, real hindu...
Non of you are a REAL fucking human so stop with the excuse.

>>127688386
>Israel has flown over Syria before
>This means that Israel does not want to destroy Syria to make it easier for them to do so

You're scrabbling pretty hard here, kike. We know for a fact that ISIS and Israel have a relationship. They've admitted as such. We also know that at least the Saudis have been funding them from leaked documents. Clinton knew. That was the entire point.

Both of these groups are our allies. Why are our allies supporting ISIS? What possible motivation could there be besides the disruption of Syria and the facilitation of an Israeli annexation of the South?

It is also irrelevant what tiny organization ISIS was BEFORE the CIA got involved.

>>127677904
>What is humanity's true history and why is it being destroyed?

It is something that Muslims have always done. When they conquer a place, they turn all the holy sites into mosques. If it is something that outshines Islam in accomplishment and they can't turn it into a mosque, they destroy.

They did the exact same thing when the took over Hispania in the early middle ages.

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>>127688866
Funnily enough, they are not concentrating all efforts on destroying mecca.

But that's an interesting point. What is a real muslim, exactly? Do they not follow the koran, the hadith, and moehommad? Do they not worship allah? Have they not said the shahada?

>>127679232
rare

>>127677904

It's censorship. Lefties always try to rewrite history.

>>127688974
No proofs, huh? Why am I not surprised.

Middle East entanglements are complicated. The Syrians, for instance, were quite notorious for supporting the islamic infiltration into iraq during the iraq war. And we knew they were doing it. They benefited by getting their worst criminals out of Syria to die fighting Americans. We benefited from it by more easily being able to track the insurgents, and getting human intel from their plants. But the Syrian government "supported" the insurgency. But they gave us what we wanted.

Playing both sides is a way of life for semites.

>>127678396
>They're not even really muslim

The leader of ISIS has a Phd in Islamic studies. They are as muslim as you can get.

>>127688969

You aren't even a real country lol.

>>127689026

The biggest offense to Allah (swt) on the planet is Mecca. Any "muslim" who doesn't recognise this is not a real muslim, they have been fooled by the jews and satan.

ISIS are bombing western countries and wasting their lives like losers. If they were real muslims and REALLY wanted to carry out Allah's (Swt) will, they would destroy mecca. ISIS are useful idiots that the jew is using for their own goals.

I can't lay out an exact catch all definition of what makes one real. Just as it would be impossible to do for christianity.

Because a subservient worker race of unidentifiable brown people have no need of history.

That's why there's a push to start removing historical monuments in the US too.

(((They))) are beginning the final push to go full on Eloi and turn us into Morlocks.

>>127689026
Exactly! thank you senpai

>>127677904
Bomb some pretend monument to destroy it. When it realty you just sell it to the highest bidder.

>>127689017
Muslims are the reason we only have the pyramids to study in the middle East. They were simply too big to destroy.

>>127689340
Then you pronounce takfir on every muslim on Earth except yourself, and whoever else agrees with your tiny cultish interpretation of mecca.

>>127689340
>You aren't even a real country lol.
Guess i hit a nerve there achmed

>>127689608

Just like 99% of christians are fake christians, so too are 99% of muslims fake muslims.

>>127677904
>What is humanity's true history
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/121680633

>>127689283
Proofs for what?

Are you denying the state of affairs between Israel and ISIS?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-israel-defence-force-apology-attack-unit-golan-heights-defense-minister-moshe-ya-alon-a7700616.html

Are you denying the state of affairs between the Saudis and ISIS, and that Clinton and the State Department knew about it?
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/hillary-clinton-wikileaks-email-isis-saudi-arabia-qatar-us-allies-funding-barack-obama-knew-all-a7362071.html

Are you denying that we are blowing up Syrian targets while claiming to be fighting ISIS?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/04/13/u-s-led-coalition-accidentally-bombs-syrian-allies-killing-18/

Are you denying that Israel has its eyes on Southern Syria? I'm not even going to provide proof for that, you're just insane.

Now explain for me again what your argument is. ISIS is working with our allies, and our tacit approval if not explicit aid, to destabilize Syria. What other conclusion is there. What do you think this is, are our allies funding arming equipping and training Islamic maniacs for no reason? Or is there a reason, does it serve a larger goal. I think that larger goal is Greater Israel, and the facts all indicate that this is the case.

>>127689419
by allah the most holy the most magnificent, anyone who pronounces ai ala alihi illallah in the presence of a muslim is themselves a muslim. It is not for another muslim to tell someone that they are muslim or not. Only allah can do that.

>>127689767
Always remember to archive blogs renowned for bad journalism and clickbait.

https://archive.is/Opsw1 <- independent.co.uk article
https://archive.is/s7KSR <- independent.co.uk article #1
https://archive.is/xT9bq <- washingtonpost.com article

>>127678570
(((unknown force)))

>>127689739
Figure out what you think makes a real or a fake muslim first. Then you can talk to me about the distinction.

In the meantime see
>>127689770

>>127689340
>the majority of the world's muslims aren't muslims because I say so
Your original country, they don't have psychiatrists there do they

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>>127680222
Artifacts of the past are supposed to be studied, not destroyed.

>>127689860

The UK is my original country. I'm whiter than you are pal. Islam is the truth, all true white men will convert.

>>127677904
Fundamentalists Christian here.
I approve of this.

Anyone who gets butthurt over pagan faggotry being destroyed is a kike lover who is on the road to Hell.

It would ve even better if they could raze the pyramids and completely fuck Egypt out of tourism.

Get fucked, fence sitting secularist pussies.

>>127677904
To make room for Near East Disney...

it's simple
>“The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.”
>ISIS is Israel's puppy
>ISIS kills both muslims and christians en masse, never attacks Israel
>ISIS accidently attacked some IDF soldiers, they formally apoligized for that
>Israel are run by Scheming Jews who believes in that quote
>Jews have rewritten most of our History
>Findings of our real history get's quickly swept under the rug
>Jew's are doing what they do best, scheeme with money and other people, infiltrate, and destroy. History and landmarks are important for them to remove
>One day they'll be able to boldly say: "You have no culture!" and demoralize people further

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kensington_Runestone
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGOm9ZWmAV4

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oera_Linda_Book
>http://sacred-texts.com/atl/olb/
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CAoZS52CoU
This one is harder, but after seeing this, it makes more sense
>White mummies in China with pretty advanced fabrics
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr5Kq56heIs&feature=youtu.be&t=21m48s

We trully do not know our ancestors, and look at a span of 200 years as a lot.
The 1800's alone is a world with a moral compass that doesn't fit our own at all, but they were the most productive in our recent history. Even for all their advances Jews hate them.

>>127689767
Kek your sources don't say what you think they do. Two are fake news, one tries to make a completely unrelated story about Donald Trump somehow (Kek!) and the other one doesn't have any relevance.

So yes, I'm denying that you have evidence that supports your claims.

And at the same time, it is possible your claims are somewhat true. I would not for a minute put it past the security services of Saud and Israel to """"fund"""" or """"give weapons to"""" the Islamic State. But not the way you seem to think.

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>>127678898
>destroy evidence of humans's true history

you do know archaeologists have already been through these ruins and have all the information recorded right??

all ISIS is doing is fucking of the tourism sector. they'll do the same in Egypt and Turkey, just fucking up tourism, making the Middle East even more irrelevant to visit and spend $$

>>127677904
I don't know but it angers Kek and the other ancient gods, clearly.

What a tragedy for the future.

>>127690329
>you do know archaeologists have already been through these ruins and have all the information recorded right??
You really believe in that shit you just wrote?

>>127678898
>Tfw they find and destroy the ancient temple of Kek

>>127689977
>Islam is the truth
The quran read as if it was written by an illiterate mongoloid.
Which it was.

If you read that garbage and came to the conclusion that Islam is truth, then you are a cretin who is too evil and stupid to be saved fron eternal hellfire.

The King James Bible is the word of the living God, repent or be cast into Hell with the sjw commie faggots and feminists.

Muslims are apostate Christians influenced by Babylonian mysticism and Satan himself. Muslims bow down and pray to a meteorite, the black Kaaba stone in Mecca 5 times a day. Same as the Diana worshippers in Ephesus. You dont actually read, of course, so you know nothing about that.

>>127677904

They see them as nationalist icons and ISIS considers itself to be fiercely anti-nationalist.

>>127687904
Your wife said the same thing.

>>127690412
are you implying archaeologists have never been to these ruins and took notes,drawings,pictures, and sent relics to museums all over the world.

fucking troll

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>>127690247
>Ask for sources
>Get sources
>Huu huu fake news

1: The Israelis LITERALLY said they got an apology for the ISIS attack.

2: That leak clearly shows that the US government knew the Saudis were funding ISIS. No action was taken.

3: We literally blew up Syrians, and we continue blowing up Syrians, in Syria. ISIS has been slowly beaten back IN SPITE of our actions, not because of them.

You obviously know I'm right, I do not understand what kind of agenda you are trying to push here. Explain what YOU think is going on. Why are the Saudis funding ISIS. Give your explanation. Do you think that I am trying to deny that ISIS is a bunch of muslim sandniggers? I'm not. I'm saying they're muslim sandniggers WORKING FOR other muslim sandniggers and kikes, and that their success is attributable only to the support they have clearly received through state actors.

>>127690499

The bible is fully corrupted by the jew. The Quran is the final revelation. The prophet (pbuh) was delivered this directly by Allah (Swt). The bible was written by random people, not jesus, not Allah (swt).

Christians are apostate muslims fooled by the jew and satan himself.

Real muslims want mecca to be destroyed. Try to keep up jew slave.

You've never read anything of great value. The Quran and the hadiths are the 2 most valuable pieces of writings ever and for all time.

>>127689364
the Morlocks were the ruling class dumbass.r

>>127690618 that is exactly what I am implying
archaeologists are under influence as well, as (((policymakers))) are the same. Besides, we have not found everything yet, and nor will we document it forever. It can easily be swept under the rug after a few generations goes by. Then remove it completely when people have forgotten about it. The ability for us to temporarily document it in our temporary museums does not void the impact of destroying historical monuments at all
Hell, as an example, we're denied our own History

>>127690681
>The bible is fully corrupted by the jew.
That's what the Jew wants you to believe.
>You've never read anything of great value.
So youre admitting that the Quran is trash? Because I've read it.

Mohammed is the false prophet Jesus Christ warns us about. Islam is antithetical to Jesus' teaching.

There is a reason Muslims are cursed by God to be 3rd world cannon fodder while Christendom leads the 1st world. There is a reason Islamic states are India street shitter tier.

>>127691131
>>127690681
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFw2KrI3mng

>>127691131

All islamic nations are paradises. You are such a dumb jew slave that you actually believe the shit your media says without question.

>>127691357
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4ENPy0mqOE
This too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOczqFeOC-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGBkR-ygwhQ

>romantisizing a fairy tail.

>>127691055
hundreds of years of studying Palmyra and you think they haven't found everything?? I think they found and studied everything ISIS is destroying right now. there might be shit that hasn't been discovered yet, but I don't ISIS is fucking searching and digging in the ground for it.

>>127691478
>haven't found everything
No, and it doesn't even matter what they have already documented given enough time.
If the same people who are entrusted with our History as those who destroy those monuments, you can rest assured what will happen given enough time.
Even still, a document isn't the real thing

>>127691478
Let me put it this way. If you were scheeming to rob people of their History today, and had ISIS and most of the upper echelons of the west under your controll.
What would be the logical thing to do?

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>>127677904

Humans are BILLIONS of years old and are NOT NATIVE to Earth. Here is merely SOME evidence (though DEFINITELY not ALL of the evidence) suggesting not only a human presence on Earth BILLIONS of years ago, but also suggesting complex human civilisations on Earth BILLIONS of years ago:

* A human skull fragment from Hungary dated between 250,000 and 450,000 years ago
* A human footprint with accompanying paleoliths (stones deliberately chipped into a recognisable tool type), bone tools, hearths and shelters, discovered in France and dated 300,000 to 400,000 years
* Paleoliths in Spain, a partial human skeleton and paleoliths in France; two English skeletons, one with associated paleoliths, ALL at least 300,000 years old
* Skull fragments and paleoliths in Kenya and advanced paleoliths, of modern human manufacture, in the Olduvai Gorge in Tanzania, dated between 400,000 and 700,000 years
* Neoliths (the most advanced stone tools and utensils) in China of a type that indicate full human capacity, dated to 600,000 years
* Hearths, charcoal, human femurs and broken animal bones, all denoting modern humanity, in Java, dated to 830,000 years
* An anatomically modern human skull discovered in Argentina and dated between 1 million and 1.5 million years years (eoliths -chipped pebbles, thought to be the earliest known tools- at Monte Hermoso, also in Argentina, are believed to be between 1 and 2.5 million years old).
* A human tooth from Java yielding a date between 1 and 1.9 million years years
* Incised bones, dated between 1.2 and 2.5 million years, have been found in Italy
* Discoveries of paleoliths, cut and charred bones at Xihoudu in China and eoliths from Diring Yurlakh in Siberia dated to 1.8 million years
* Eoliths in India, paleoliths in England, Belgium, Italy and Argentina, flint blades in Italy, hearths in Argentina, a carved shell, pierced teeth and even two human jaws all bearing a minimum date of 2 million years (end of part 1)

>>127691918


(start of part 2) Curiously enough, several of the very earliest artifact discoveries display a truly extraordinary level of sophistication. In Idaho, for example, a 2-million-year-old clay figurine was unearthed in 1912. But even this discovery does not mark an outer limit. Bones, vertebrae and even complete skeletons have been found in Italy, Argentina and Kenya. Their minimum datings range from 3 million to 4 million years. A human skull, a partial human skeleton and a collection of neoliths discovered in California have been dated in excess of 5 million years. A human skeleton discovered at Midi in France, paleoliths found in Portugal, Burma and Argentina, a carved bone and flint flakes from Turkey all have a minimum age of 5 million years.
How far back can human history be pushed with discoveries like these? The answer seems to be a great deal further than orthodox science currently allows. As if the foregoing discoveries were not enough, we need to take account of:
* Paleoliths from France dated between 7 and 9 million years
* An eolith from India with a minimum dating of 9 million years
* Incised bones from France, Argentina and Kenya no less than 12 million years old
* More paleolith discoveries from France, dated at least 20 million years ago
* Neoliths from California in excess of 23 million years
* Three different kinds of paleoliths from Belgium with a minimum dating of 26 million years
* An anatomically modern human skeleton, neoliths and carved stones found at the Table Mountain, California and dated at least 33 million years ago
But even 33 million years is not the upper limit. A human skeleton found in Switzerland is estimated to be between 38 and 45 million years old. France has yielded up eoliths, paleoliths, cut wood and a chalk ball, the minimum ages of which range from 45 to 50 million years.
There's still more.

>>127691976

(start of part 3) In 1960, H. L. Armstrong announced in Nature magazine the discovery of fossil human footprints near the Paluxy River, in Texas. Dinosaur footprints were found in the same strata. In 1983, the Moscow News reported the discovery of a fossilised human footprint next to the fossil footprint of a three-toed dinosaur in the Turkamen Republic. Dinosaurs have been extinct for approximately 65 million years.
In 1983, Professor W. G. Burroughs of Kentucky reported the discovery of three pairs of fossil tracks dated to 300 million years ago. They showed left and right footprints. Each print had five toes and a distinct arch. The toes were spread apart like those of a human used to walking barefoot. The foot curved back like a human foot to what appeared to be a human heel. There was a pair of prints in the series that showed a left and right foot. The distance between them is just what you'd expect in modern human footprints.
In December 1862, The Geologist carried news of a human skeleton found 27.5 m (90 ft) below the surface in a coal seam in Illinois. The seam was dated between 286 and 320 million years. It's true that a few eoliths, skull fragments and fossil footprints, however old, provide no real backing for the idea of advanced prehistoric human civilisations.
But some other discoveries do.
In 1968, an American fossil collector named William J. Meister found a fossilised human shoe print near Antelope Spring, Utah. There were trilobite fossils in the same stone, which means it was at least 245 million years old. Close examination showed that the sole of this shoe differed little, if at all, from those of shoes manufactured today.
In 1897, a carved stone showing multiple faces of an old man was found at a depth of 40 m (130 ft) in a coal mine in Iowa. The coal there was of similar age.

>>127691999


(start of part 4) A piece of coal yielded up an encased iron cup in 1912. Frank J. Kenwood, who made the discovery, was so intrigued he traced the origin of the coal and discovered it came from the Wilburton Mine in Oklahoma. The coal there is about 312 million years old.
In 1844, Scottish physicist Sir David Brewster reported the discovery of a metal nail embedded in a sandstone block from a quarry in the north of England. The head was completely encased, ruling out the possibility that it had been driven in at some recent date. The block from which it came is approximately 360 million years old.
On 22 June 1844, The Times reported that a length of gold thread had been found by workmen embedded in stone close to the River Tweed. This stone too was around 360 million years old.
Astonishing though these dates may appear to anyone familiar with the orthodox theory of human origins, they pale in comparison with the dates of two further discoveries.
According to Scientific American, dated 5 June 1852, blasting activities at Meeting House Hill, in Dorchester, Massachusetts, unearthed a metallic, bell-shaped vessel extensively decorated with silver inlays of flowers and vines. The workmanship was described as 'exquisite'. The vessel was blown out of a bed of Roxbury conglomerate dated somewhat earlier than 600 million years.
In 1993, Michael A. Cremo and Richard L. Thompson reported the discovery 'over the past several decades' of hundreds of metallic spheres in a pyrophyllite mine in South Africa. The spheres are grooved and give the appearance of having been manufactured. If so, the strata in which they were found suggest they were manufactured 2.8 BILLION years ago.

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>>127692019

(start of part 5) What are we to make of these perplexing discoveries? They cannot simply be dismissed. If even ONE of these discoveries is TRUE (and I believe that MANY if not ALL of these discoveries are TRUE), then it changes EVERYTHING that modern mainstream anthropologists THOUGHT they knew about the human species. (end)

Its aliens

>>127691918
>>127691976
>>127691999
>>127692019
>>127692080
not bad, I'm going to have a few thinkgs to read about then
And people think we're not being robbed of the real history
Why haven't we been told abou those increadible finds?
Why do we get stupid shit for news instead?

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>>127692080

The red parts of this map used to be land. Daily reminder that sea levels around the world were 400 feet lower just before the end of the last Ice Age.

Near the end of the last Ice Age 12,800 years ago, a giant comet that had entered the Solar System from deep space thousands of years earlier, broke into multiple fragments. Some of these fragments struck Earth, causing a global cataclysm unseen since the extinction of the dinosaurs. At least eight of the fragments hit the North American ice cap, while further fragments hit the Northern European ice cap. The impacts, from comet fragments a mile wide approaching at more than 60,000 miles an hour, generated huge amounts of heat which instantly liquidised millions of square kilometres of ice, destabilising Earth's crust and causing the global flood that is remembered in myths all around the world.

A second series of impacts, equally devastating, causing further cataclysmic flooding, occurred 11,600 years ago, the exact date that Plato gives for the destruction and submergence of Atlantis. The evidence for all of this shows beyond reasonable doubt that a civilisation at least as technologically advanced as 19th-century England at the onset of the Industrial Revolution (if not more) that flourished during the last Ice Age was destroyed in the global cataclysms between 12,800 years ago and 11,600 years ago.

A distant memory and a warning to the future - for the comet that wrought such destruction in remote antiquity may not be done with us yet.

>>127678396
It has everything to do with the fact they ARE muslim. They are destroying any artifacts that "should not exist" since that child raping goat fucker never mentioned them in his shitty book

>>127692178
do the bill whittle one next

>>127677904
destroying ancient ruins gets them attention from western media.
attention from western media helps them in recruiting.

>>127692178
oh right, it's forbidden in a lot of those places to dive in, because people started finding ancient structures

>>127677904
>Acting like anything important happened in the middle east.
Just a bunch of durka durka's killing themselves.

>>127692165
1) you have been told about these incredible finds
2) they are all bollocks

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we're in good hands anons

>>127692165

This information is no longer available to the public by any official sources due to a process I call 'knowledge filtration' in which archaeological discoveries that do not fit the dominant mainstream theory of humanity's origin are deliberately cast aside from public view, thus causing science as a whole to not progress as it should.

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>>127692388
Actually you can read about all that stuff in Michael Cremo's book Forbidden Archaeology.

>>127680080
Kind of makes sense, remember how antifa also wanted to remove that one statue in Texas in June?(probably many others as well)
Fits nicely into /pol/ worldview.

>>127680699
The ME gifted you with civilization and you just go back to scatological porn like your greeks did.

>>127692388
Right, even university students have access to archives we do not. And they do not get to under the iceberg at all
Swept under the rug again, and again. And people wonder what's the big deal about destroying ancient sites.

>>127692445

I know that, where do you think I learned about those stunning discoveries in the first place? The bibliography of Forbidden Archeology is SO BIG that it could be ITS OWN BOOK. This is NOT channeled information, we're talking about an incredibly well-cited book here that delves deep into the official scientific literature at a time when there was less censorship of heretical information.

>>127678898
go on ...

>>127692609
check further, there's tons of sources for that posted already

>>127692600
https://www.pdf-archive.com/2014/07/17/forbidden-archeology/forbidden-archeology.pdf

Easy pdf link, my favorite ones.

>>127692585

People who support the notion that human beings and/or their civilisations are older than the dominant mainstream theory are often VICIOUSLY ATTACKED on a PERSONAL LEVEL. It's okay to attack the argument, but NOT the person. Not only that, but scientists who merely REPORT discoveries that contradict the dominant mainstream theory of the origin of human beings and/or human beings have their funding withdrawn, causing science (or at least 'mainstream science') to stagnate. We should treat heretical ideas with healthy scepticism and curiosity, not automatic scorn.

>>127692888

>the dominant mainstream theory of the origin of human beings and/or human civilisation

>>127684705

I remember watching long ago some religion in the Middle East that was destroyed back in the day that was all about praising the stars. I can't seem to find its name or anything, fuck

are you retarded ?
hitler attacked us first germans started ww1 and 2 and they will probably start ww3
don't belive in your own propaganda kraut you are nothing more but savages
and go suck muhamed's duck

>>127692600
You said the information isn't available, have you tried to research it?

I happen to have a copy of the book, looking in it now. First cite is Aigner, J.S. (1978) Pleistocene faunal and cultural stations in south China. In Ikawa-Smith, ed. Early Paleolithic in South and East Asia. The Hague, Mouton, pp. 129-162.

http://www.worldcat.org/title/early-paleolithic-in-south-and-east-asia/oclc/555831062

I could get it on ILL.

Which references in particular are you having a hard time finding anon? Do you have online access to academic journals?

>>127681008
see
>>127692981

>>127692888
not read that book, but started on the road of redpilling myself on older History.
Found out about it especially with the Kensington rune stone. The history isn't even that old, it just refutes that the jew columbus wasn't the one to discover Americas
The poor layman farmer who found it had his family almost destroyed. So much harrasment that lasted for generations they had suicides over finding that rune stone.

It's basically the same people who hold our History who controll ISIS too.
Fucking jews man

(((ISIS))) is pillaging archaeological sites and selling the antiquities on the black market. By making a spectacle out of destroying some of the treasures, they dramatically raise the price of the remaining artifacts, which they sell.

An interesting question would be (((who))) is buying what is being sold.

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>>127677904
This really pisses me off.
I don't mind the suicide bombers, but when you attack history is when you draw the fucking line.

I don't know if others have said it, but they are destroying evidence.

>>127692988

I said the information is no longer available to the public by official sources, because it isn't. Hence Cremo wrote a book about the information. Various artifacts which contradict the dominant mainstream theory of the origin of human beings and human civilisation have been put into a storehouse belonging to the Smithsonian away from public view. Michael Cremo actually managed to go into this storehouse (surprisingly enough) and took a photo of a mortar and pestle stored there that was found in strata about 30 million years old (if I remember correctly).

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>>127692967
Have your read Hamlet's Mill anon?

That's another great book that will redpill the fuck out of you.

>>127688776
Excellent infographic, many thanks

>>127693184
Same comrade. They can kill as many syrians and iraqis as they like. Drive as many trucks badly through Europe as they can. But destroying ancient structures that have lasted for millenniums is disgusting. They are destroying humanity.

>>127677904
to hide obscure ancient history

>>127693184
>>127693392
Time to get mad about Jews then, because they've been doing it forever.

>>127693143

The thing is this, you ask people "How do you know X?" and they'll probably reply by saying something like "Well, because it's in my science books." or "Well, because it's been peer-reviewed." or "Well, because it's been agreed upon by a majority of scientists.", but these are flimsy defences, because unless YOU can verify for yourself whether something is true or not either by OBSERVATION or by doing an experiment about it BY YOURSELF, you are relying essentially on external sources for your information and it is naïve to think that those sources don't have agendas.
What people call 'mainstream science' has been hijacked by politics, religion and corporations. So-called 'peer review' these days is usually nothing more than a circle-jerk. Just as people support the separation of church and state (and RIGHTFULLY so), I support the separation of SCIENCE and state. We owe it to our innate intelligence to QUESTION EVERYTHING.

>>127693350

No, but I've heard about it and I know that it's about ancient knowledge of the precession of the equinoxes and similar things. And yes, it's fascinating as fuck.

>>127693276
>I said the information is no longer available to the public by official sources, because it isn't.
Maybe we're on a different wavelength. There is a wealth of information which you can look up yourself. What I think you mean, is that the official story about everything doesn't match up to the data, which they will try to conceal. But clues leak out and logic can defeat lies.

>Hence Cremo wrote a book about the information. Various artifacts which contradict the dominant mainstream theory of the origin of human beings and human civilisation have been put into a storehouse belonging to the Smithsonian away from public view. Michael Cremo actually managed to go into this storehouse (surprisingly enough) and took a photo of a mortar and pestle stored there that was found in strata about 30 million years old (if I remember correctly).

I don't know if that's true anon, but there are lots of tales about this stuff.

I'm a young earther on the other hand, with a bit of a leaning toward cataclysm theories. I also believe that if you look into it, you'll find that rocks can metamorphose quickly under natural circumstances, and they even have found dinosaur "fossils" with soft tissue remains.

Cremo's on to something but he might have drawn his conclusion ahead of time, his belief in humanity existing since the beginning of time or thereabouts is based on the fact that he belongs to a Hindu sect.

>>127677904
Because they were created and funded by dirty kikes and the dirty kikes are telling them to destroy any evidence that shows that they're kike Abrahamic religions like Islam and Christianity are a load of shit . Kind of like when the great libary was destroyed . They are burning proof that not all we told about hisroy is true

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>>127693653
Read that book anon, it's amazing. Myths are more clever than you think. Whoever came up with these stories had a lot of information to give us.

>>127679178
The Japanese and Chinese lines never ended...

>>127693724
The effort to suppress history goes back to ancient times and I believe the current plot to suppress history was started by the Catholic Church in the 1500s by Poggio Bracciolini and Joseph Scaliger, as detailed in History: Fiction or Science by Russian hacker Anatoly Fomenko.

Another great book series, sadly he never got volumes 5-7 into print in English.

>>127691357
>All islamic nations are paradises.
Says the mudslime taking refuge in the UK from his turd world islamic shithole.

Enjoy Hell, idolator.

ITT: Brainlets

Look at how the world was taken over in Brave New World

>destroy history, heritage, music, culture
>ie. blowing up the pyramids, demolishing churches, etc.

To them, these represents throwbacks to cultures of lies and even representations for people to attach themselves to to live those lies.

Therefore, in their minds, they are slowly uniting people by making them forget why they are different.

>>127693682

>his belief in humanity existing since the beginning of time or thereabouts is based on the fact that he belongs to a Hindu sect.

Yes, but here's the thing: There are various ancient Indian writings (like the Puranas, for example) which describe human lineages extending over a billion years into the past. Understandably, these writings are very hard for us modern people to believe..... but since archaeological evidence has been found suggesting a vastly more ancient provenance for the human species, THAT'S when I take this stuff seriously - and I take this stuff VERY SERIOUSLY.

>>127693568
this is why i want to learn sumerian or at least figure out a way to programmatically translate it

who knows what the fuck those guys were on about and there are hundreds of thousands of photographed and published, but untranslated tablets

>>127691918

>0 sources

into the trash it goes

>>127692888
Information like this fucks with sheepls life so its back to the blue pills for them.

>>127693983
>Yes, but here's the thing: There are various ancient Indian writings (like the Puranas, for example) which describe human lineages extending over a billion years into the past. Understandably, these writings are very hard for us modern people to believe..... but since archaeological evidence has been found suggesting a vastly more ancient provenance for the human species, THAT'S when I take this stuff seriously - and I take this stuff VERY SERIOUSLY.
I believe that if you read Hamlet's Mill you'll have a different opinion on the matter afterward, lots of these stories are meant to become allegorical at some point even if they describe a dynasty which could be historically established.

The Vedas are good stuff though, but I don't try to get too dogmatic and really believe in this or that too much. Once you settle on something as a rigid belief you stop looking into stuff as readily.

I do know history was faked though, not as a belief but as a fact pattern.

>>127694124
read upthread, it's all from a book that's jammed with sources

please do the bare minimum and read the thread, I know it's probably too much to ask a portunigger to actually read a book too so I won't bother

>>127694187

I completely agree with you about dogma, I am not dogmatic about anything and I do not adhere to any religion. However, I need to mention that it is NOT only the ancient Indian writings which advocate extreme human antiquity. I'm interested in the cyclical conception of human history that pre-Abrahamic cultures had. The Ancient Greeks had a cyclical conception of human history that was similar to the cyclical conception of human history that the Hindus had (and STILL have). The Ancient Greeks had a Golden Age (equivalent to Satya Yuga in Hinduism), a Silver Age (equivalent to Treta Yuga in Hinduism), a Bronze Age (equivalent to Dwapara Yuga in Hinduism) and an Iron Age (equivalent to Kali Yuga in Hinduism). I call the model of human history that is currently dominant among historians 'the linear-progressive model of human history'. The linear-progressive model of human history basically says that the further back in human history you go, the more primitive that humans, their cultures and their technology becomes. The linear-progressive model of human history embraced by modern historians and modern anthropologists actually has its roots in Judeo-Christian beliefs, ironically enough. Virtually EVERY pre-Abrahamic culture WORLDWIDE embraced a conception of human history that was CYCLICAL, with civilisations rising and falling one after the other over VAST periods of time and humans being EXTREMELY OLD.

If I recall correctly, one of their fanfics states that the civilisations of unbelievers will be wiped out by God. Without a trace. By destroying ancient ruins they're carrying out out their God's will.
Deus Vuit: Dessert edition.

>>127694240

So you can bother to post vague shit like "A human skull fragment from Hungary dated between 250,000 and 450,000 years ago"
but you cba to post some link to some paper or something confirming the existence of this find so that we know what you're even talking about. Or by "human" you mean some random homo erectus skull? Why even post this shit if you're not gonna post at least a couple of sources together with it?

>>127693568
>Just as people support the separation of church and state

Our 'seperation of church and state' isn't even explicitely in our laws.

>>127678396
Or you know...some men just want to watch the world burn.

>>127678898
They either destroy them or sell them on the black market.

>>127694568
>I'm interested in the cyclical conception of human history that pre-Abrahamic cultures had.
I'm no longer sure what's pre-what any more, but I'd agree that stuff is interesting.

>The Ancient Greeks had a Golden Age (equivalent to Satya Yuga in Hinduism), a Silver Age (equivalent to Treta Yuga in Hinduism), a Bronze Age (equivalent to Dwapara Yuga in Hinduism) and an Iron Age (equivalent to Kali Yuga in Hinduism).
They had extensive contact I believe. I also suspect that IE languages diverged at a later point than suspected, and came in fact from NW Europe or beyond, in the (now?) polar regions as described in the Vedas.

>I call the model of human history that is currently dominant among historians 'the linear-progressive model of human history'. The linear-progressive model of human history basically says that the further back in human history you go, the more primitive that humans, their cultures and their technology becomes. The linear-progressive model of human history embraced by modern historians and modern anthropologists actually has its roots in Judeo-Christian beliefs, ironically enough. Virtually EVERY pre-Abrahamic culture WORLDWIDE embraced a conception of human history that was CYCLICAL, with civilisations rising and falling one after the other over VAST periods of time and humans being EXTREMELY OLD.
This is kind of the opposite of where I am now with my thoughts, but similar in a way, as well. I believe in the rise and fall of technology over time but I don't think it's a cycle that's destined to just happen. Could be that the fall of the ancient high-tech and then classical civilizations happened a lot closer to present day than "they" are saying. Could be that classical civilization IS the high-tech one, or its progenitors were close enough to it in time for it to survive in myth and legend.

Whatever the truth is, the fact that individuals who question the dominant mainstream chronology are targeted remains, activates my almonds.

>>127694657
>So you can bother to post vague shit like "A human skull fragment from Hungary dated between 250,000 and 450,000 years ago"
>but you cba to post some link to some paper or something confirming the existence of this find so that we know what you're even talking about. Or by "human" you mean some random homo erectus skull? Why even post this shit if you're not gonna post at least a couple of sources together with it?
somebody posted a link to the book in the thread, so you can pirate it in PDF form, and read it, or flip through it and find some random fact with a citation and see if it exists, if your poortugese computers have access to academic journals you could even probably look up the article or cite, and if you still have libraries you could get the citation on ILL to check and see

for fuck's sake

>>127695385

>post some stupid random shit without sources
>someone ask for sources
>"Are you an idiot? Go read the book"

Yea we're done here go back to watching your ancient aliens podcast or whatever dumbass

Also I dled that crap and found nothing about a ancient human skull in Hungary but hey I guess I should waste an hour of my life trying to find sources every time some idiot writes some shit on the chan right?

>>127695723
>>post some stupid random shit without sources
>>someone ask for sources
>>"Are you an idiot? Go read the book"
I just literally gave you a tip, you could click the link upthread and with one magical and doubtless non-Portugese bit of computer wizardry you could have the entire book, with all sources, at your fingertips.

You're just a concern shill but a shit-tier one who doesn't even know the topic. Shoo.

>>127677904

they found some ancient aliens shit down there and now globalists want them destroyed

>>127686066
go away justin

>>127685016

this is actually the truth. seriously.

>>127678898
You mean how ancient cultures had more advanced tech? sure thing bud.

>>127692981
This is true the germans have no impulse control

>>127695723

There are two types of ignorance: Ignorance by lack of information and ignorance by choice. You are being ignorant by choice.

>>127695953

You just convinced me that ancient aliens are real and humans are trillions of years old by posting two liners without sources. Bravo!


I'm asking for sources for one specific thing: the Hungary skull that is the first point brought up in that post. That book provides no sources for that. Actually I doubt that book has any valid sources for anything at all since you're already deflecting so hard, feeling emotional and under attack after someone asked for 1 (one) source. But go ahead and use more ad-hom so you can pretend that those sources actually exist. It's good fiction though! Wake up.

>>127693813
The Japanese monarchy is a fraud as shown in the Hotsuma Tsutae, and the Chinese dynasty in current times is descended from outsiders as well, any remnants of their predecessors (yes they exist) which remain overseas are pretty jealous with their provenance.

The Taiwanese "royals" are not really Royal, just a couple Mongolians.

>>127689742
Its realyl fucking nervwrecking for me that you cant find interesting non biased texts about the Ahnenerbe.
Its all just "stole art" " tortured humans and experimented" "pillaged towns"

>>127677904
It's because of the Islamic concept of "jahiliyyah", which refers to the time of ignorance before Islam.

So, they destroy everything which came before.

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>>127685380
>If your enemies kill you, you win

>>127677904
>Why is ISIS destroying ancient ruins?

ISIS apologized to Israel for misfired mortar fire that landed on Israeli controlled area.
ISIS, that apologized to Israel, is destroying ancient ruins in Syria and Iraq.
ISIS, that apologized to Israel, is erasing the history of a territory that is going to be the Greater Israel.
Now that wasn't so hard, was it?

>>127696496
>I'm asking for sources for one specific thing: the Hungary skull that is the first point brought up in that post. That book provides no sources for that.
You already read the book? Damn dawg.

Amazing.

>I doubt that book has any valid sources for anything at all
It's quite well sourced, you read the whole thing as evidenced by your quote above but you already forgot it?

>already deflecting
Oh jeez you're an amateur psychologist too, like every shill. You're trying to make this about something other than your utter failure to read the book.

How very Jewish of you anon. Bravo. I especially love how you inserted ancient aliens into your pro-grade memeing, it really showed your chutzpah.

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>>127677904
>implying Jews care about history
They only care to cash in on history they self created.

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>>127691918
>>127696430

Humans are TRILLIONS of years old and are NOT NATIVE to this universe. Here is merely SOME evidence (though DEFINITELY not ALL of the evidence) suggesting not only a human presence on Earth BILLIONS of years ago, but also suggesting complex human civilisations on Earth BILLIONS of years ago:

* A space ship fragment from Hungary dated between 250,000 and 4050,000 years ago
* A dino-human footprint with accompanying paleoliths (stones deliberately chipped into a recognisable tool type), bone tools, hearths and shelters, discovered in Mars and dated 300,000 to 40,000,000 years
* Paleoliths in Neptune, a partial human skeleton and paleoliths in Venus; two English skeletons, one with associated paleoliths, ALL at least 5 trillion years old

>>127679432
DELET FUCKING CUNT THEY WILL NEVER TAKE THOSE STONES

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>>127696710

>shill

Yes I'm a spheroid earth shill. George Soros is paying me to bump this thread with misinformation where I pretend that your unsourced claims are irrefutable evidence of ancient space ships. You got me.

>>127696868
>implying the whole thing wasn't moved around a bunch of times anyway
we have drawings of the configuration and it was somewhat different from the reconstruction made after WWII

>>127697014
Nah you're just a shit tier concern shill who didn't even read the thread, and you're clearly not informed on the topic at all.

You're just in here getting some likeshares or something, probably sageing with each reply because you're ass mad that people aren't in a drumpf btfo thread or something.

Just fuck off, we're having fun.

>>127677904
historical monuments especially ruins are wastes of space that prevent shit from being built

pretty sure this wont affect their almost nonexistent tourism in a post 9/11 world.

>>127696586
feminists and nwo faggits have a similar belief

>>127677904
zionist kikes want a clean slate for greater israel.

year zero, goyim!

>>127679051
>kikes, niggers, and islamoniggers
>human

>>127678396
Are you tards serious, Hillary Clinton's state department created Isis. The serve the USA. They solely exist to destabilize the region while we wipe them out and install puppets. How do you not understand this.

Their (((benefactors))) ordered them to destroy ancient ruins that tells us their true history and who (((they))) really are. They're covering their tracks with proxy armies.

>>127697286
If Israel makes a land grab we'll know this was their plan from the beginning and it will mightily piss off the other muzzie nations because they will know they are next.

The shit will hit the fan. My guess is if they'll do it, it will be as part of a joint effort and they will end up with a zone of occupation or control in which they will do some peace keeping first.

>>127697116

>we're having fun.
>you're ass mad

All I did was ask for a source you're the one who resorted to insults so how am I the one who's "mad"? I'm here now simply to show how retarded you are to literally unironically believe in something that is not only unsourced but based on flawed reasoning.

If you wanna "have fun" with this bullshit you can post it in /x/ where everyone will agree with you and get spooked over the ancient space ships but in /pol/ i'm gonna ask you for sources on your bullshit.

Oh by the way all the time you spent arguing bullshit with me you could have completely BTFO me out of orbit by providing one source. Gee what a coincidence that you can't do that...

>>127678898
Anyone who disagrees with this has not seen this documentary:

https://youtu.be/rcKahraBiBY

>>127677904
>>127678218
They're destroying all the inhibitors preventing us from turning the middle east into a glass crater.

>>127697442
>All I did was ask for a source
You got it already, you already revealed that you didn't even skim the book by your oafish gruntings.

It's fine, as I predicted in my first reply to you, you are afraid of books and reading and are unable to use them.

If you think that your failure to read is in some way a general argument against the veracity of the information, or its existence, you've wasted several years at the wrong liberal arts institution my intellectually challenged newfriend.

I'm not mad, I'm just a bit disappointed with the absolute state of concern shilling, or schule, whatever you call it, these days.

It's funny to see you in action though, your little tactics are all too familiar and could be used in practically any discussion. Very, very telling. You're cute though, I like you. I feel like I know you.

>>127692981
"go suck muhamed's duck"
gdyby nie było tych polskich rozbiorów albo wojny, zostalibyś my potęgą

>>127697695
hehe this is an interesting take on it

if there's nothing left why not nuke it all from orbit?

>>127694124
>Complete and utter lack of sauce for this pasta
You must me new here

>>127679432
those aren't the real stones, nor is that where the real "original tombstone" was, goodluck finding anything underneath 9001 years of autistic posting about "lines in the earth where ruins are :^)" shits buried

they moved the original stones to somewhere secret when uk was at risk of being bombed in ww2, the current stones are just concrete approximations - also the arrangement was totally random by some British guy when they put the "stones" back up

never believe what (((they)))'ve told you

>>127698044
there are drawings and etchings which show the state of stonehenge before anybody had the temerity to fuck with it, from early modern times

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>>127679644
Ohh shit

>>127697911
on the contrary, it's the same old anon

>>127698311
Check'd
I like a bit of pasta every once and while, who doesnt but fuck me after 1-2 times tl;dr

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>>127698044
>they moved the original stones
There never was any original stones nor ancient ruins. All this shit was made of reinforced concrete in 19th and early 20th century.

They want to provoke intervention in Syria once they do enough atrocities. Like when the U.S intervened with airstrikes that had gained public support. The airstrikes weren't being done. But ISIS was getting airborne weapon drops and on some air support. It was only after Russia started airstrikes that the course of the war turned against ISIS.

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>>127698487
That's not true, there were extensive writeups of the site (and others) and its state in early historical times, one of the better ones was in The Gentleman's Magazine.

It was in rough shape, like somebody had tried to blow the fucker up with a cannon which isn't impossible after all, many sites bear disfigurements which are modern, see the Sphinx, the Signapore Stone, etc...

>>127677904
Public service projects. They want to make room for modern things.

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>>127698828
Remember that Saudi Arabia recently tore down a fuck ton of early Muslim sites to make room for this, a literal Tower of Mordor complete with Eye of Sauron.

This was not a popular move with quite a few different kinds of Muslims.

>>127697237
That's right.

No wonder the commies/ socialists are similar to Muslims in the way in which they behave.

>>127699032
they are temporary allies, all plan to eliminate each other once they kill the evil white capitalist males

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>>127698716
Too many "ancient" ruins has embedded steel bars inside. If some guys had time to build an "ancient" sites in 19th century, why should one belive in "ancient" pictures?

>>127689791
bingo

>>127678094

Actually, it's Wahhabi doctrine. They consider the preservation of any historical architecture (especially non-muslim stuff) to be haram.

Hohols please leave.

>>127692981
ofc they attacked first, but only because you didn't meet their modest demands.

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>>127699170
I agree there are many difficult issues with them.

Have you seen photos of The Parthenon before they remodeled it, and the giant pile of chipped up bits of stone that they just threw over the mountainside?

There are other old photos of it, from before the remodeling, it looks quite a bit different. My feeling is that it was blown up with cannons at some point.

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they are destroying the rest of the stargates before the jews can get to them

>>127677904
Because they are haram. This is not a precedent, as Muhamed himself did the same.

>>127677904
same reason the commies are tearing down confederate statues in the south

>>127699358
>>127699395
>>127699416
>rebar in concrete
>suspiciously white plaster
isis is as good at choosing targets as they project the people bombing them are

>>127699170
It's actually pretty cool how they did that, but no I believe it was there because the French documented it extensively.

>>127699075
The left don't plan to eliminate the Muslims.

They are playing a game of "feeding the crocodile in the hope that it will eat them last".

They hope that they will be rewarded by their future overlords for allowing them to settle in the West.

However, they will be among the first to be executed and enslaved.

>>127699358
which sites does this purport to be?>>127699395
>>127699416

>>127699868
>The left don't plan to eliminate the Muslims.
>They are playing a game of "feeding the crocodile in the hope that it will eat them last".
Wrong, they intend to eliminate them entirely once the time is right, and usher in a brand new religion, synthetically designed to be perfect. I believe they will grab a shit load of small children, retreat to bunkers, and raise them to be their perfect fuckgoy slaves and then emerge after a nuclear/biological/chemical horror to a nice fresh green world to dance and play in.

>They hope that they will be rewarded by their future overlords for allowing them to settle in the West.
>However, they will be among the first to be executed and enslaved.
Watch to see who runs first once the shit hits the fan in Europe.

>>127678540
He would smashed the Kaaba as well but it is impossible to destroy it being a meteorite. So muhamed came with the idea that because of that the Kaaba is from Allah.

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>>127699689
I think they just builds all this till today. All ancient sites look different on early photos, even egyptian sphynx. Early photos probably catch early stage of construction. Usually all this ancient ruins located in uninhabited areas.

>>127700110
>muzzies are too dumb to heat up a space rock and beat it into pieces or even throw it down a big hole
topkek there's no proof it's even the original, it was stolen for quite a white before it was returned and 'fixed'

>>127699690
CHEVRON SEVEN, ENCODED!

Controlling the past = controlling the future, if you know what you're doing, which the masters of ISIS absolutely do. They are destroying stargates at certain ancient sites, along with very ancient ruins of civilizations we have not been told about during our public education. The war in the ME is more about controlling the stargates in that region.

>>127700158
might be that time is going backwards too, eventually kekistan will pour fourth and tons of new ruins will appear

>>127700158
except most of what you show can be attributed to reconstruction projects where they take and try to fix it back up

in some cases they do a good job, in some cases, not so much

>>127677904
I feel the jew might be involved in this one

>>127700158
This doesn't make any sense. Why add those columns later.

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>>127677904

Jews use ISIS to blow these thing up, to hide Ancient Aryan civilizations.

>>127700362
they were originally made in sections and had been pulled down or fallen over or blown up in a battle or whatever

in modern times varying groups have reconstructed ancient sites, the results range from offensively bad to historically authentic

>>127700198
> there's no proof it's even the original, it was stolen
Oh, this is new information. Did not know it was stolen.

>>127678898
they will pay the price

>>127700438
>only Armenia could include a swastika and a spazstika in it's architecture, they must have known the secrets of the planetary stargates on the imaginary lines and the autism they channel

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>>127700488
Yeah bandits stole it for a while and actuall broke it, it's currently held in place by a big silver vagina bezel.

Also it's probably not iron but desert glass.

More people here need to look at the work of Fomenko - decent enough english primer
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJk0yT4erxuRcCMBujshjWZ-KNAHAWCx6

For full red pill:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_LieZEwx3Y&feature=youtu.be

The chronology of history is a pack of lies. Rebar in the statues because they were poured - obviously! Geopolymers.

>>127700438
Why is the Russian combined with soviet symbols?

>>127700488
I will add you're right about it being one of the idols, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Idols the book is worth a read because it physically describes the idols as well as naming their gods and describing their aspects and what their domains of power etc. were.

It's a fun read actually.

>>127687553
its basically a intelligence agency without any connections to a government

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>>127699838
No one seen any pyramid before Napoleon personally came to the place. And he did it, they say, just because "heard rumors of ancient ruins". Frenches probably just started first construction. Later they called it "excavation" and "renovation"

>>127677904
>why are ISIS destroying historical monuments?
Islam calls all history that came before Mohammed, jahiliyah, ignorance which is offensive to Allah. It is to be annihilated.
Here's Bill Warner to briefly explain it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t6xAseMITU&spfreload=10
So what you see muslims doing is standard practice of what muslims have been doing all this time, during the caliphates they also spent an entire week burning down a buddhist library for similar reason. In this process they destroyed 90% of the knowledge etc. that they came across in their conquests.
TL;DR
Q: does it have anything to do with islam?
A: Yes. This practice called Jahiliyah is encouraged by Islam.

>>127678898
>I disagree that it's this simple.
>I think ISIS is funded and directed by a larger group and is using them to destroy evidence of human's true history.
This is only because you don't know about the concept of jahilyah in islam, not to get in the way of your conspiracy theory, but this is not new to the muslims at all. They did this during the caliphates aswell and only preserved extremely little in comparison to what originally was there.

>>127700637
Wasnt it Obsidian? I read that somewhere.

>>127689327
Did you just lift the words "ISIS is Metal Gear Solid 4/5 level mercenaries who carry out the will of their master" out of existence when reading that?

>>127700869
>Frenches built the sphinx"
And added water erosion on it aswell? And placed it in perfect alignment with certain star constellations without using sattelite aswell?
/x/ is calling you.

>>127700869
Please, you are actually hurting my brain with that nonsense.
>>127701048
the dane said it well.

>>127678516
agreed, I hate them so much

t. ar*b

>>127678898
This

>>127678898
Muslims always burned books, destroyed and build on top of older christian anf older religions stuff even the pyramids are their targets..but they do this shit since their first day mekka is the best example.
And now they have google maps and satellite images you know

>>127701048
>And placed it in perfect alignment with certain star constellations without using sattelite aswell?
Who did it then? Alliens? For fuck sake, modern astronomy is relatively young, ancient egyptians CAN'T place it according to stars, frenches, in other hand, can.

>>127680080
This

>>127701897
How about that african tribe who had insane knowledge about the movement of the firmanent.
Such deep knowledge of it that they couldnt have figured it out themselves.

>>127700786

Good question. Maybe it was created just before the War as a sign of peace between the 2 nations? It looks much newer than all the rest.

>>127678396
>mfw their leader perfected the Islamic CQC

>>127702221
Yes, goy. Ancient jews and their neighbours was this smart. How can you even compete with africans? You has no culture, whytee. Everything was invented by africans and asians bazillion years ago.

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>>127702661

>>127683796
Burger education everyone

>>127702661
???????
What mental illness is that?

I didnt say it was them who figured it out. I was trying to tell you that someone GAVE them or left said knowledge there.

>>127700158
it is no secret that they scour the area for any bits and peices and try and puzzle it together,

>>127678861
it's just another city,

>>127688776
So this basically says the Shitte Muslims are the good one, while Sunnis like ISIS not.