Feminism

>>127672733
Then why do they get uppity when I throw the first punch?

>>127672733
Men and women aren't equal though.

>>127672733
Yes I am against you having the same rights. Women should not vote and the rule of thumb is a good rule.

Next question

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>>127672806
non-aggression principle?
>>127672903
good luck getting laid with that mindset

>>127672733
What rights don't they have?

Feminism was hijacked by communists a long time ago. I hate communists.

>>127672733
Sage.

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>>127673064
>good luck getting laid with that mindset

Implying that's not the way to get laid the minute you treat a women as equal they lose interest.

Every time men treat women equal women either see them as feeble and not worth their time or they bitch about something being too difficult.

Feminism should just be when women are married.

>>127673071
the right not to be sexually propositioned daily by men with lower sexual market value

in my experience, at least

>>127672733
>Feminism is literally just the belief that woman and man are equal.

Back when feminism was created, sure. In fact, they won and pushed through everything they asked for.

Which is why modern day feminism is pointless in western countries, it is no longer about the liberal vision of equality (equal opportunity) but being used as a marxist tool to push socialism and socialist idea of equality (equal outcome)

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>>127673423
t. shitlords have been around for centuries

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IM SO FUCKING MAD RIGHT NOW THIS THREAD BETTER NOT REACH BUMP LIMIT YOU FUCKING SHILLS POST THE SAME GOD DAMN THREADS EVERY FUCKING DAY AND RETARD NEWFAGS STILL FALL FOR THE DAMN BAIT FUCK OFF!!

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>>127672733
Men and women can't be equal, because they're inherently different.

However...
Woman is nothing without a good man and a good man can't exist without a good woman.
Feminists are not good women, because their priorities are not in children and supporting their husband and that's why they're angry. They have no place in the society and they scream bloody murder because of it.

>>127673692
That's it? Also, as someone with female friends, this is not something they ever describe happening to them. Nor do me or any of my friends do this. It sounds less like a male/female issue and more like a class issue. Maybe stop hanging out with scumbags that sexually proposition women every day?

>>127674033
Why don't you post your own threads then?

>>127672733
if you dont an even intellectual level on average than why are you equal?

Also thats the definition of feminism, however thats not modern day feminism....AT ALL

Killing a dog isn't considered murder....why

>>127673064
It has been getting men laid for millenia, cuck

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>>127672733
>feminists say all men are pigs
>women want to be like men
so your goal is to be a pig
at least feminists look like them

Division of labor is a good thing.

*Even* if women and men were equal, division of labor between the two would be desirable.

>>127672733
Feminism is not about equality. It's about giving women all the benefits of being a man with none of the responsibilities.

>>127674033
i have never posted this thread before, why are people so triggerhappy with repost accusations these days? this isn't leddit

>>127674168
Equality was never a goal of feminism. It has always been female superiority.

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>>127674059
>Feminists are not good women
wow lol I literally stopped reading right fucking there

>>127672733
Sure, the two should have the same fundamental rights as men (which women already have), that does not mean that they are not inferior

>>127672733
>Feminism is literally just the belief that woman and man are equal.
It's not.

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>>127674065
honestly it sounds like you just dont know any attractive women with high SMV

>>127674168
>if you dont an even intellect
picrelated

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>>127672733
no one on /pol/ actually wants to deny anyone their equal rights. it's all just a prank, bro

Feminism is just Marxism for ladies and just another reason to fight it off.

>>127674715
Ha, yep, it's all just an elaborate LARP...

or is it?

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>>127672733

OP, I love women, but the ones I know have overwhelmingly used their freedom to fuck up their lives and the lives of those around them, while failing to produce or reproduce.

I hope this great experiment works out this time. (It didn't work out for Babylon, Greece, Rome, or China...)

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>>127674666
the "no women on the internet" meme is 2005-/b/-tier faggotry

>>127672733
There are, according tot his Wiki, 19 feminist ideologies. Which one are you referring to?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_movements_and_ideologies

>>127674965
>implying desirable """women""" actually browse this shithole

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>>127673064
>good luck getting laid with that mindset
Who hasn't gotten laid in 2017? The ease of vagina in this age is this insane and that's why it's becoming a problem. More and more women are trying to find their place in sexual pleasure only, jumping from man to man and avoiding family life until it's too late for them. So many wasted women on whoring around.

It's not a thing you say to a woman obviously though. You don't reveal all your cards at first date.
Despite the fact they're meant to be subsidiaries to the head of the family, man needs to make her feel special. After a certain amount of dating like maybe 6 months of living together and you're both comfortable in the relationship, start talking about theoretical children. If she goes along, she's likely candidate for your children and you can slowly keep redpilling her about being a housewife with two children. You can reward her with affection everytime she shows her desire to be a mother to your children. If she immediately rejects the thought of being a mother, then you should dump her ASAP because she will most likely want to slut around a little more before "settling down" and will inevitably cheat on you or break up with you for Chad's cock.

>>127674965
It's still relevant because trapfaggotry has risen to infeasible amounts.
It's not safe to consider anyone's a girl on the internet. They have a high chance of having dicks.

>>127673064
All of my and all of your ancestors got laid with that exact attitude.

>>127672733
equality is a myth. you wouldn't say every cog/piece of a clock has the exact same purpose; yet assembled correctly, they will produce a functioning machine used to keep track of time. in a similar manner, every member of society has their function but they are not said to be equal. we have our: doctors, lawyers, workman, engineers, et cetera, and although they perform their functions to contribute to society, they are not inter-changable. therefore, they are not equal.

>>127672733
First of all, women have more rights than men, second of all, they're not equal, that's why they need more rights, and why the fucking parasites still want more rights.
>inb4 they're not parasites
Yes they are, the whole gender collectively takes more from the state than they put in, their collective lives are literally being sustained by men, along with every other public program, while they prance around thinking their independent.

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>>127672733
I have no problem with Feminism itself. However, I do have a problem with bitches who happen to be so-called modern Feminists.

>>127674332
>i have never posted this thread before
>implying that this isn't a useless thread that is posted every fucking day
L U R K
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you posted it because you knew you'd get replies from all the beta males on /pol/ that can't handle the idea of a women equal to or better than them. Feminism IS the belief that women should have the same rights as men, everything else can safely be labeled as MARXISM.

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>>127675016
Not opening that list, wikipedia lists are wanky and bloated

i am an intersectional ecofeminist with altright/nationalist leanings aside from the misogyny typical to /pol/ and the altright mindset

>>127672733
All People in america have the same rights. They are also subject to the same laws. Where the confusion coming from

>>127673064
That's literally how you get laid. They are the little girl who needs guidance through life, and I am the man who will walk them through it. You know how many bitches get turned on by that idea?
Girls like older men precisely because they are superior to them and they KNOW it and can count on it.

>>127672733
They aren't equal though. Men a stronger. Men are defenders. Men are testosterone driven.

Women are emotionally estrogen driven. They are weaker. They are smaller.

>>127672733

>Are you guys actually against women having the same rights as men?

No but men and women --- on average --- are different and outcomes will not always be equal (which is fine).

>>127675420
Political correctness, diversity, affirmative action, liberals, etc..

>>127673692
I can make shit up and call them rights too, just brb while ago sniff a rag soaked with chemicals so I can catch up to your level

>>127672733
Today's feminism movement has devolved into men hating.

>>127675420

Equating equal outcome with equal opportunity.

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>>127672733
>Feminism is literally just the belief that woman and man are equal.

BELIEF, IT IS NOT TRUTH

>>127672733
Feminism is Jewish subversion, in all forms.

>>127672733
>Are you guys actually against women having the same rights as men?
yes
>Feminism is literally just the belief that woman and man are equal.
>Why wouldn't you want that?
Women aren't people and they're sub-servant, it's been that way throughout history. Many cultures still maintain those ancient traditions (Muslims, Jews), yet this cultures push feminism on their enemies. Feminism is detrimental to a healthy society.
>Do you not want girls to grow up thinking that men see them as equal?
I do not.

>>127675118
Excellent points.

>>127672733

Feminism is the belief that someone should be afforded a guaranteed outcome regardless of disparities in ability.

Anything like this is an attempt to bar a more fit organism from the achievements to which its genetic makeup predisposes it.

This is the weak trying to upend the accomplishments of the strong. A conspiracy of sheep to undo the lion.

>>127672733
Yes. That's gay. They aren't equal.

>>127673692
Women also have right to proposition men with higher sexual market value. No inequality here.

Modern civilization provides relative safety and opportunities for everyone, and people are more able to lead individualistic life styles. A cornerstone of the modern feminist ideology explains that this precedent renders men functionally obsolete and therefore allows women to live independent from men, that women no longer need a man in their life for the services that they have traditionally provided, such as protection and the provision of resources. On the contrary, when one takes into consideration that much of the industries within our economy are male dominated, it’s easy to see that women are more dependent on men than ever before. Industries that involve the transport and shipping of food and other consumer products such as trucking, railways, cargo ships, etc… and the maintenance thereof are largely staffed by men. Military and police forces, science and engineering, agriculture and faming are also male dominated. In essence, our global infrastructure represents a collective effort of protection and the provision of resources that involves the contributions of hundreds of millions of people, both men and women alike (but mostly men). At this point, one can see that the “strong independent woman” trope is a product of this arrangement and would crumple under whatever weight it claims to bear should it suddenly find itself unable to draw strength from its source; the collective strength of men.

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>>127672733
we want equal rights, women want special treatment.
wage gap doesn't exist, look into it.
women want special treatment in divorce courts.
They want speial treatment in hiring. 'hurdurr every company should be 50% women, even if more men are more qualified. THey don't care about low paid male labor workers or anything, they just want to take over the good obs

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someone pot the pic of
"men run the world, want women think it means" and it shows a bunch of wallstreet types laughing and "what it actully means" and shows a bunch of lineman and workmen.
I lost it and one of my favorites.

>>127672733
we're not equal though. we're different.

>>127676389

Yikes, most psychologists are women?

>>127672733
Cunts are property, they can't have rights. Only people can have rights.

>>127672733
>Are you guys actually against women having the same rights as men?
Yes, but tomboys should be the exception.

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classic here

>>127674965
Ah, I see you're new.

The "no woman on the internet" meme doesn't exist because there's actually no woman it's because woman have no value over the internet which is also why tits or gtfo became a thing, if you really want to get the puss pass back you gotta show those titties.

>>127673064
>>127673692
>>127674332
>>127674629
>>127674965
>>127675410

op, why you no reply to reasonable arguments against? it's as if you are an arm-chair feminist posting this repeat thread for the lols, while sipping back some cheap wine

>confirmed baiter

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Equality is a fool's errand because men and women are different, as are racial characteristics, not to mention that people are born with vastly different scopes of ability, that intelligence and health are hereditary, as are many illnesses both physical and psychological. Equality is a Communist ideal that degrades individual, and societal excellence. Look at all the people living in Romania's sewers, drug addled and damaged, they're the product of dysgenics brought about through the fall of Communism. They no longer have a place in the world because they've been dragged down by the equality doctrine, they're a lost generation that will only know suffering until they die.

Equality isn't making women happier either, it's making them miserable because it goes against female nature. Equality is a bad thing to strive for.

>>127676223
This. Women are not interested in equality. They are only interested in gaining advantages for themselves. When did you last hear women complaining that they are under-represented in the coal-mining industry or in military fatalities?

A nigger here in Oz was sentenced today for murdering three of her kids. She will be free in 20 years. If a man committed that exact same crime, he would never, ever be released. No woman will complain about this blatant inequality.

>>127672733
>Are you guys actually against women having the same rights as men?
They have different needs, so need different rights.

>Feminism is literally just the belief that woman and man are equal.
No that is egalitarianism, feminism is the belief that women need a bunch of exceptional treatment to make up for men's advantages.

>Do you not want girls to grow up thinking that men see them as equal?
They should understand the truth of the human condition and how to utilize differences between men and women for maximum gain.

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>>127676850
What post do you want me to respond to?

>>127673692
That's not a right, you dumb cunt. Nobody has the right to not get approached.

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did you know in many fields women with the same experience and same education get paid more than men?

We aren't equal. We both have our own strengths and weaknesses and are designed for different roles. Women forget how important it is to be home with their children and to properly raise these little people. Our society is too focused on careers and money and as a result are raising emotionally damaged and broken children. It's not healthy for the small children to be dropped off at so many different places while mom goes to work. Then they come home after a long day and instead of being a parent they just want to hang out and be friends. Some men are great stay at home dads too but overall women are better.

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>>127672733
Only that men and women are not equal. Each sex has its weaknesses and strong suits.

We would function better as a societal whole if we embraced this instead of trying to fight it.

>>127672733
>Are you guys actually against women having the same rights as men?
Yes.

>Feminism is literally just the belief that woman and man are equal.
Then it's literally wrong.

>Why wouldn't you want that? Do you not want girls to grow up thinking that men see them as equal?
They aren't equal, and don't deserve the same opportunities. That doesn't mean both aren't necessary in both reproductive and social roles. Women shouldn't be in the military or be career oriented. Menshould compose the military, and be prepared to give their life due to their biological disposability, if it's deemed necessary to do so. Men should work and be career oriented, to provide for his family, which is nurtured by a maternal figure, the mother.

Together, the sexes create a single social unit: the nuclear family. Equality means nothing but the destruction of this prosperous social unit.

Women entering the military and becoming career oriented means the destruction of military efficiency, creating a labor surplus in business causing the value of labor to drop, and most importantly, the failure to propagate society into a prosperous society that was better than the last.

So no, I don't think women are equal to men, nor do I think men have a higher status than women. The terms equality and inequality are meaningless to me when both are fundamentally necessary in their respective roles.

>>127676878
Murdering nigger babies should earn you a medal not a prison sentence.

>>127676955
this post here
>>127675278

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The truth about immigration, by the numbers:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Cultural Marxist Jews Admit Organizing White Genocide

The plan to eliminate the white race:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOgkGzMdieI

Cultural Marxism in action… Political Correctness, the tip of the blade:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM

Cultural Marxism & Social Justice Explained:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnqIj8C2Aek

Why are we in Decline - Cultural Marxism:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs

also see

The facts about slavery in North America:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5tci36bNjg

Cultural Marxist Jews fund media propaganda against whites on an enormous scale:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Ojbi6lXQI

Does this sound familiar at all? (starting at 6:52)

>https://youtu.be/kPdxhLUKZYM?list=PLo0ThsDnveH5nv5TNviBrGTX9P6IrYfIe&t=412

The Holocaust:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPc899uUb-A

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgGP_evkvOk

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxpIsep4160

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>>127672733
Have a baby. No one cares about your insights.

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>>127677237
01:05:44
>>127677239
01:05:48

>>127674965
Tits
Gtfo
Pick one

>>127672733
Woman and men are unequal in different ways. A good man will exhibit different positive traits than a good woman. This is common fucking sense and it's only through subversion and cultural amnesia that anyone would think otherwise.

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Make a list of masculine qualities and feminine qualities.
realize everything masculine has been demonized

Women have more rights than men already people like you are the reason that thay are not treated equaly if someone is to stupid to see that they have the same rights and mental abilitys than they dont deserve equal rights.

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>>127672733
>Are you guys actually against women having the same rights as men?
In principle, no, I think a fully egalitarian society would be optimal.
Functionally, yes, because egalitarianism is a fallacy, women will never be held to the same standards of responsibility as men, therefore they should not be granted the same rights. It's the same reason we don't grant children the same rights as adults.

>Feminism is literally just the belief that woman and man are equal.
False across the board, and the base premise that men and women are equal is blatantly false.

>Why wouldn't you want that?
Reality provides a better basis for decision making.

>Do you not want girls to grow up thinking that men see them as equal?
No, see above.

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>>127672733

>>127672733
Women are, in their entirety, useful idiots. At least in regards to politics. I'm sure a woman can be a surgeon or a chemist or whatever hard science bullshit most women aren't interested in. They're just much more easily swayed than men. Not holding serious convictions doesn't make you open minded.

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when liberalism goes too far

>>127672733
Equality isn't real.

I want my rib back.

>>127674059
You just blew my mind with that information.

>>127673692

Didn't get it:
>>127674065
>>127675683
>>127676971

Maybe got it:
>>127674666
>>127676173

Pretty sure they got it:
>>127676850

>>127672733
>Are you guys actually against women having the same rights as men?
smhtbh as soon as they got them they started trying to dismantle ours.

Men have always hated women throughout history of humankind. Men doesn't value women's work and effort, was it done at office or at home. Women are seen as inferior and being feminine is a negative thing, a sign of weakness. Men even use it as an insult against other men.

Now when women are conditioned to believe that they are inferior and men does not value them, their bodies or the things they do for the society, are you guys seriously wondering why women are trying to be more masculine? Because it's the only way to cope.

If you want women to stay at home, you should have valued them when they did. It's not feminism who took women from kitchen, it was the men who drove women off the kitchen. Instead of forcing women to stay home by law, you should start to come up with ways to make it beneficial and appealing for women to do so. You can't force a woman to do something she doesn't want, if she has other options. Even if you take the other option away, she'll rebel and be unsatisifed.

So make the other option more appealing then. It's not the fault of feminism nor women, it's you, simply offering a bad deal.

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>>127674033

>>127672733
>Are you guys actually against women having the same rights as men?
Name some rights that men have America today that women do not.

>Feminism is literally just the belief that woman and man are equal.
Then it's a false believe because we obviously are not equal. "Feminism is just the belief that 2 and 2 makes 7." Yeah fuck off dumbass.

>Do you not want girls to grow up thinking that men see them as equal?
Do I want people to believe a lie? No.
>>127673064
>men and women aren't equal
>good luck getting laid
Stupidest response ever.

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when are females going to check their privilege ?
>>127676389
seriously though. does someone have that pic?

>>127673692
>the right not to be sexually propositioned
lol

>>127674441
Well, at least you read the important part.

>>127672733
>Feminism is literally just the belief that woman and man are equal.
That belief is verified incorrect. You'll have to be more specific in which ways they are equal, because they are not equal in all ways. Now, if you make the claim that 1st wave feminists made that they deserve equal treatment under the law, I also disagree due to men and women being biologically different and requiring different things in life and having different biological tendencies and strengths.
But please, extrapolate on your claim so we can discuss.

>>127677640

I've heard a similar argument for why people shouldn't be concerned about the potential for vaccines to cause autism--whether or not they do, I can't say and don't care, but you get the point.

>>Why don't you like autistic children?!

From a previous post (forgot which thread):

1.Hypocrisy on the deepest level.

Sarkeesian's law: Every feminist opinion is contradicted by at least one equal and opposite feminist opinion.

"Men and women should be treated as equals!"
"Make laws specifically to help women!"

"Dont treat men and women differently!"
"Transgender people should be treated like the gender they identify with!"

"Say firefighter instead of fireman, fireman makes it sound like it's a profession for only men"
"Feminism is a perfectly reasonable name for a movement that cares about men and women in equal measure!"


2. Messiah complex.

Delusion: Feminists perceive themselves as above society, and responsible for making it better. They take pride in how it is their duty to spread their ideas and educate people.

Reality: only a fool or an egotist would believe that telling people ideological opinions constitutes educating them. Belonging to an ideology does not make you more intelligent or informed than the average person.

3. Widespread misinformation and false statistics.

Millions of people literally think that a man working the same job as a woman will earn 25% more. The study they are referring to when they quote this number literally never came to that conclusion. It found that if we look at the jobs men and women do, men's salaries are 25% higher on average. This is because men pursue more demanding and dangerous careers in general. Want to shrink that 25%? Get out of women's studies and become a surgeon or a king crab fisher. If you are a woman and you're not pursuing a high wage career, you are literally causing the wage gap, and would have to be a massive hyppocrite to complain about it.

>>127672733
Go post an update in the anti bullshit thread on how many replies this bait thread has acquired.

4. They don't actually give a shit about equality.

Imagine a world where feminism didn't exist. Instead, there was meninism. It was mostly popular with men, and they all claimed to be about equality. You care about equality, so you join them. After going to a few of their meetings, you realize that although they care about equality, they focus disproportionately on men's issues. Hardly surprising, they're mostly men after all, so they're more familiar with men's issues. You feel like your issues aren't being adressed enough, so you say "you guys are doing a good job, but I'm more interested in focusing on the issues that affect me as a woman, so I'm going to go start my own thing called feminism where we can focus more on women's issues." Then imagine the meninists showed up at your school protesting, petitioned the government to get you shut down, saying "you aren't allowed to fight for your rights! Only WE are allowed to fight for your rights!" And then the government listens, and shuts you down. Would you be a fan of meninism after that ? This is exactly how feminists treat mens rights activists.

5. More of a religion than an ideology.

Ideologies are created by people. People are fallible, and often wrong. Therefore all ideologies must be subject to heavy criticism. If you attempt to heavily criticize feminism, you are labeled a bigot and dismissed. Absolute adherence to a doctrine with no place for criticism is a cult, not an ideology.

6. No meaningful way to define a true feminist.

Millions of people call themselves feminists, and yet disagree with each other on endless issues. If you talk to a feminist about someone else who calls themself a feminist, and you mention that their ideologies are actually not compatible with each other, they will likely say "that person is not a true feminist". It seems that to most self-proclaimed feminists, the only true feminists are the ones who think the same way they do.

7. Utter disregard for simple human bias.

You expect me to believe that people who have vaginas can be expected to unbiasedely pursue agendas designed to elevate the status of people who have vaginas? Ooooookay.

8. Equity is not equality.

If you force all companies to hire at least half women, you create a system in which women only need to compete with other women, rather than all of society, since men can't take their jobs. This puts less pressure on women, and reduces their need to compete. Nobody who cares about women or equality would support a system that results in lower expectations for women.

9. No definable endgame.

This one's simple. There is simply no version of reality where feminists call it a day, pack up, and return to normal lives. In a world with perfect equality, feminists would still find something to get angry about. Men could vanish from the earth and feminists would complain about being oppressed by their ghosts. There is no conclusion to feminism. They will want more, more, more, in perpetuity.

10. Disregard for science, abuse of the term "Social construct".

Feminists argue that gender is a social construct. In reality, if you have a Y chromosome, you are scientifically a male. "Clearly you dont understand the difference between sex and gender" ,I hear you say. Actually, there never was a difference in definition for these words, until feminists decided to hijack the word gender, and redefine it to mean "Whatever someone decides they are." This is a meaningless definition, and serves no qualitative purpose. If someone can just choose their gender, or invent a new one to describe themselves, then there are an infinite amount of permutations of gender, making the term indistinguishable from personality. This is evidenced by the now ludicrously long and still growing list of genders that some feminists consider to be scientific, when in fact it is nothing more than people wanting to feel special and unique through the use of differentiated labels. Feminists paradoxically believe that there is no "female" way of acting, but that if you act like a female, you should be considered one.

>>127672733
feminism is about equality?????
are you joking i have never seen a feminist fight for the male population problems like our suicide rate thats much higher than females and why doesnt we get the same jail sentence if we commit the same crime sometime we even get more then 20% longer jail sentence for the same crime

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>>127675420
>All People in america have the same rights.
HAHAHAHAAHHAHAHA......No. Stop it, just stop.

>They are also subject to the same laws.
I said stop it, you fuqin shitcock.

>Where the confusion coming from
Apparently from you.

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>>127678822
this thread bumps itself

>>127676850
>>127678822
>>127674666
see >>127655972

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>>127675858

>>127672733
TITS OR GTFO YOU FUCKING
LAND WHALE!

>>127672733
Seemed like a good idea at first. After attaining said rights, the country went to shit and we realized female voters, biologically being emotional, vote for socialist policies and helping those from other countries, even at the detriment to our own people. It has possibly irreparably damaged society. And by that I mean placed it in a non-functioning way. Either we replace it with something like we had before or a new culture that knows how they are a dimorphic species with different roles for genders.

They're not equal. Women aren't as smart as men and meant to subservient to their husbands. Thats how humans evolved and how traditional society evolved and you can't change that without disaster.

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>>127676200
Formatting is your friend, but otherwise, well said.

>>127672733
Equal rights is what they already have. However, women are like niggers, you give them equal rights and they want more and more. They will not be happy until they run every business, every university is 100% female and all government positions are filled by only women. Even then its unlikely theyll be happy. Adam and Eve is this story... give them what they want and theyll still complain and blame you. Women are actually happier when theyre knocked around the house, forced to wear what their man wants them to wear, dragged out of bed at 3.00am and force fucked on the stairs, constantly told they are a sack of useless shit and treated with absolute contempt by their whole family. This is why more women are turning to Islam than any other religion. Women despise weakness. Dont believe me? Just start crying in front of your woman, do it constantly, within 3 months she will be gone.

>>127678177

Remove the 1st 2 sentences and this is the most solid rebuttal I've seen here.

Well done femfag, even if these are broad strokes.

>>127675799
That quote needs translated better what a fucking word salad

>>127678177
Faggot faggot faggot

>men didn't respect women's work
Men respected women doing their work well.

>men hate feminine women so much that they even hate feminine men!
No, we like women being feminine, we just don't like lying, cheating whites.

Men on the other hand are NOT supposed to be feminine. That is why we make fun of feminine faggots like you.

Faggot

>>127673064

He won't need luck with that mindset

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>>127679331
will replace us.*

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>>127672733
Nah not really and telling them about how much rights they should have gets me laid constantly

>>127673121
underrated

>>127679685
"Justice" would be when those fucking criminals would pay to see the game.

>>127679937
I agree. feminists actually want special treatment and call it equality =, they want to take from men and give to women.
they want to judge men by their sex, not thier character

>>127678177
Why are more women converting to Islam than any other religion then? Women are turning to a religion that states they have no soul, that their only purpose is to serve their man. Once a woman is married it is impossible for the husband to rape her. He wants sex, he gets sex, the wife has no say in the matter. Niggers and Pakis are getting all the white sluts precisely because they dont take their shit. Blacks are hundreds of times more likely to punch your fucking mouth loose for disrespecting them in the home.

Women should be able to own property as it is anyone's right.

Though women can think and provide opinions, what happens with shit like the right to vote is that women vote in people to give them welfare as it is inevitable once women get the right to vote. I'm still on the fence about this, but logic and reasoning are on the side against women's right to vote. (Of all the guys who argue this, I suggest turf flinging monkey or raging golden eagle...mainly turd flinging monkey since he gives calm explainations that would greatly help answer your question. He even has a stream and you could go on if your equipment is good and you're not going to troll him. I really would not be /pol/ for a respectful answer if that is what you want).

As for women in the work force...you're going to lower the birth rate if more women work, but if you want or need to work, then go ahead by all means. Nobody is gonna stop you. Just don't whine about men in the higher ups when the majority of shitty jobs are done by men along with the absolute majority of work place fatalities (97%).


I don't hate women, but I must try to look at this rationally...to end this on one note, the most unequal thing one can do is to make unequal things equal...men and women will never be the same.

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>>127672733
>Feminism is literally just the belief that woman and man are equal.
Used to be and that was fine. Great, ven. We need the best minds working to secure the best possible future for humankind.
BUT Andrea Dworkin and Catherine McKinnon turned feminism into a man-hating group of hive-mind bullies who for some reason very often actually resemble men.
My grandmother and mother were feminists. They would kick these bitches in the balls if they saw what has happened.

>>127678599
There's no excuse to not vaccinate anyway

>>127679509
>uses 'salad' as a derogatory term
>flag

It all checks out

>>127673692
This is so malignantly narcissistic and delusional, I have no clue how to answer other than to say it pushes me more toward the caveman mindset that feminsm purports to despise. What a cunt.

>>127680384
>logic and reasoning are on the side against women's right to vote

stop being cringeteen, pls.

>>127678177
>you should have valued them when they did
Men were, and are still, willing to spend thousands of dollars in a celebration to let everyone know that a woman has accepted his proposal of marriage. Then he will work 40-50-60-70-80+ hours a week to provide that woman the best life he can. Home, car, a pool, pets, clothes, etc. He will sacrifice EVERYTHING to make her happy. And in doing so, he will risk losing it all if he fails to keep her happy.

Yet somehow you think men don't value women. Might want to question who gave you that idea.

>>127680500
I don't think you understand what I was saying??

The English translation of that Hitler quote in the photo was very messy and didn't read well. It needs punctuation or just redone all together.

Word salad isn't derogatory. Jeez Finnposter is your IQ extra low today?

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>>127672733
>just the belief that woman and man are equal.

>>127681474
It's not bad there's just one grammatical error at

>and only on the basis (of) this smaller world can the man's world be formed and built up

The English diction is mostly eloquent I don't read German well enough to rate the translation though

>>127681996
Maybe it'd go smoother if I wasn't so tired idk, right now it just reads like nails on a chalkboard. It's a good quote in itself tho and who doesn't like a QT flower swatika

Feminists don't act like "Feminism is literally just the belief that woman and man are equal" so I don't buy that for a second

>>127672733
Equality is bullshit. We actually live in a matriarchal society. The family courts prove that.

>>127672733
>Rights
Women have greater and more legal rights than men, and are given beneficial discrimination when being punished for crimes.
>Equality
I do not believe in equality as a reality, humans are not equal creatures, we are a sexually dimorphic species with males and females being highly specialized and optimized for separate tasks necessary for species maintenance and survival.

If your belief system is rooted in the idea that male and female humans are equal, you are basing your belief system on an objectively false assumption.
>Do you not want girls to grow up thinking that men see them as equal?
No, I don't want men and women to feel equal to each-other, men and women having evolved to preform specialized functions should not live under the delusion that they are equal to one-another. I would much prefer that people grow up in an environment where they are instilled with a realistic mindset and understand their own limitations, capabilities, and work to further perfect what they are naturally good at.

>women bred for beauty and mothering qualities for millennia
>modern political ideology
>women are just as capable as men
It's retarded to think so

>>127682770
some women are just as capable.
that is why I support equality of treatment. but if that means 85% of males do well and 15% of females do well, that is equality, not sexism. Sexism is forcing a company to hire more women solely based on they are women.

>>127676682
And thank you weeb game paradise of 2016 - 2017, add to that list Aloy, B2, and Kat.

>>127672733
>Are you guys actually against women having the same rights as men?
Yes

#samethreadeveryday

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>>127672733
Why don't they start with the same responsibilities and then we can start talking about equal rights.

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>>127682280
>implying its not men and the courts just favor women because protect the pussy, fuck your rivals.
I gaurentee if women ran courts there would be much more favoritism of men (in certain cases at least, women aren't to keen on competition and cunts. they are more likely to self police)

>>127682291
feel free to define those limitations with science then instead of your inane bullshit. it's not like anyone's stopping you. theres papers published every year on sexual dimorphism in the mind. not enough of them present the outcome you are presuming to be a credible decision for society to follow as justification. Ergo, it is you responsability as a superior to prove your case. certainly that's what we would expect a superior to be able to do.
>inb4 a bunch of studies on iq gap
yes if you cherry pick they exist. they do not outnumber nor are they lacking in methodolical problems. This is normal scientific proceedure, adjust the methadology to select for things like motivation and value for schooling may be difficult, but it is necissary when studies show that men underrate female peers performance much of the time in school

>>127672733
Because women and men are not equal. /thread

because men an woman are not equal, they are different, when you put equality in a family it destroy it

>>127672733
>Feminism is literally just the belief that woman and man are equal.
Yeah no.

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>>127680384
>listening to turd
yeah nah
>Though women can think and provide opinions, what happens with shit like the right to vote is that women vote in people to give them welfare as it is inevitable once women get the right to vote. I'm still on the fence about this, but logic and reasoning are on the side against women's right to vote.
protip acheakek, the second you allow women to own property but not vote, you are saying they are paying taxes but aren't allowed representation. furthermore, they can use that property to lobby unless they legally are denied ammedment rights. if you fail to secure these rights for men only, your reversal of the 19th will only lead to two outcomes. Womens sufferage; or sociatal collapse. removing the voting power of 50% of the country means that at least 20% of the country is going to be doing demonstrations. You'll either cave quickly, or the demonstrations will stick around and get worse, and also increase the chance of peaceful protest hijack gangs turning assembly into violence and destabilizing the nation. it would provide an unprecedented ammount of cover for organized crime to exploit the foundations of our country. you are wrong that women are inferior and shouldn't vote, but even more wrong if you think a half measure ensures anything but giving us the very tool we will use to undo your work.

>>127679356
>>127676200
while you are not wrong. this is changing.
(its not really a good thing for women or men desu)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU

Women are weak humans, one of their best skills is to cheat a man to subtract his resources.
In an equality society women thieve with impunity. Just think in a very weak man, and transplant his brain in to a women body. If you believe in equality you must suppose he is the same person, but now the thing that he is weak doesn't matter he have now another kind power, the power of seduction.

>>127679601
>men respect women doing their work well
they don't, or they would pay women to do it like all respected work.
>Men on the other hand are NOT supposed to be feminine. That is why we make fun of feminine faggots like you.
saying a girl throws like a boy would not be an insult tool.

>>127672733
They have every right that men do. Feminism is over, it's called the Law now.

Anyone who is still a Feminist wants superiority, not equality.

>>127672733
Modern feminism is basically applied shittestology.

>>127672806
Your primicise is bull shit. Women have more rights than men. What are you asking for? We don't have equal roles why should we have forced equal outcome?

>>127672733
“Narrativity is fundamentally dead,” says Baudrillard. In a sense, the
subject is contextualised into a Marxist socialism that includes sexuality as a
totality.

If one examines capitalist deconceptualism, one is faced with a choice:
either reject predialectic materialism or conclude that class has objective
value. Finnis[1] suggests that we have to choose between
neopatriarchialist discourse and Foucaultist power relations. But a number of
desublimations concerning a mythopoetical paradox may be revealed.

“Sexual identity is used in the service of the status quo,” says Debord.
Sartre uses the term ‘Marxist socialism’ to denote the bridge between society
and class. Therefore, if capitalist deconceptualism holds, we have to choose
between Marxist socialism and capitalist narrative.

>>127685220
“Sexual identity is elitist,” says Baudrillard; however, according to
Hubbard[6] , it is not so much sexual identity that is
elitist, but rather the futility of sexual identity. Lacan uses the term
‘Debordist situation’ to denote the role of the observer as poet. However,
Bataille suggests the use of social realism to attack hierarchy.

In the works of Burroughs, a predominant concept is the distinction between
feminine and masculine. The primary theme of Sargeant’s[7]
analysis of Debordist situation is the common ground between society and
sexuality. Thus, Sontag promotes the use of cultural dematerialism to modify
sexual identity.

If one examines social realism, one is faced with a choice: either reject
neopatriarchial construction or conclude that consciousness is used to
reinforce class divisions, given that Foucault’s essay on Lyotardist narrative
is invalid. An abundance of narratives concerning not theory, but pretheory may
be revealed. It could be said that Debordist situation implies that the State
is part of the stasis of sexuality.

I support feminism so much I take the same hormones

>>127685328
just a bunch of nonsense, nobody understand your bullshit

>>127674059
Holy shit. That image.

>>127685649
haha it was generated by a computer. that tells you all you need to know
http://www.elsewhere.org/journal/pomo/

>>127672733
Rape the thots, white sharia now.

>>127672733
Women and Men will NEVER be truly equal, no matter how hard you try. They will always be different.

3rd Wave Feminism keeps trying to beat this like a dead horse and all they have accomplished is the redpilling of people to their crap.

Most Feminists are either shills trying to capitalize off blue pilled idiots or use it as a security blanket for their poor life choices and decision making.

>>127672733
>Feminism is literally just the belief that woman and man are equal.

but their not, anon. they are not

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>>127673064
>good luck getting laid with that mindset
Tits or GTFO bitch.

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>>127672733
Feminism is not just the belief that woman and man are equal, it's that woman should be (at least) equally represented in EVERY case (i.e. equality of outcomes rather than equality of opportunity). The key here is "at least". Say you have a company and you have ten executives at that company. Feminists believe the five of those executives have to be women but they don't care if at least five or men. They would be equally happy with six women and four men or ten women and no men, but there should never be less than five women.

>>127673692
whats wrong with that? it happens to everyone

>>127676731

I disagree. Those women are uppity cunts in my experience, they can't compete with other women for Chad so they take a cheap shortcut and pretend to be "one of the guys" so they can have easier access to Chad. They are not any better than normal women, they are far worse.

>>127672733
No, that's Egalitarianism. Third wave Feminism is a supremacist movement for Gender Studies students.

>>127672733
Fuck feminism now sho me dem tiddays!

>>127672733
I agree with Roosh V. We need to repeal the 19th amendment.

But we never will, so it's a race to see if we will have Chink or Mudshit overlords in 30-50 years.

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>>127672733
>Are you guys actually against women having the same rights as men?
Yes, women can't take responsibility and will vote with emotions.
>Feminism is literally just the belief that woman and man are equal.
They don't want that, they want the state to replace men and take responsibility from women. Feminism is just female nature unrestricted.
>Why wouldn't you want that? Do you not want girls to grow up thinking that men see them as equal?
Because they're not equal.

>>127691842

Pretty sure its a beta cuck faggot ayy lmao

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>>127672733
>Feminism is literally just the belief that woman and man are equal
Men and women are not equal.
http://archive.is/dBehg
Pic and essay related.

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>>127695777
I can come up with one dumb experiment after another that proves women have inferior brains. It is science. Women have inferior brains, it can be tested in the lab, and it can be shown in real life with experiments.

Women should have equal opportunities to men, which in nearly every Western country they do.

Bot satisfied with that modern feminists now want to impose equality of outcome through quotas.

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>>127696159
>which in nearly every Western country they do.
Name one that does not?
Also, if anyone supports women's suffrage, they are a feminist. At the core of feminism is women's suffrage. It was retarded too ever give them the vote in the first place.
Reason number 5 in this pic.
Then read this pic.>>127695777
Women have never been opressed. It's a lie. Women are opressed because they are natural born retards, missing big parts of the brain compared to men. Anything a woman can do, a 17 year old boy can do. But I bet I could find 60.000 17 year olds and have them play an adult soccergame. Can't say the same for women.

>>127672733
>Sage

>>127672733
We were wrong for enforcing inequality, yes this is true. But that does not mean that all inequality is caused by men, or that when this enforcement ends that you will or even should be equal. Take for example the fact that children take 9 months to develop, and require 2 years of breastfeeding and 5 years of immense amounts of attention and guidance to grow up healthy and well adjusted. This makes it much more sensible for most couples to have the woman stay at home if possible, as the man will not be disabled by the gestation period and cannot breastfeed.

But feminists call this basic biology oppression and give their kids formula made with tap water and stick them in daycare with minwage apathetic teenagers to express how independent and free they are. It's immensely selfish and cruel to children, and I doubt that women juggling a career and kids that act out due to neglect are actually happier than traditional mothers.

If you aren't willing to admit that your attempts at enforcing equality such as alimony and witch hunting men over false rape charges are just as horrible as what men did when they had the gun, and don't want to examine the effects of feminist ideology on the health of the family unit, then I'm just not interested in your brand of equality, because it is cancer on society. Feminists always want to talk about toxic masculinity but can't face the fact that toxic femininity has fundamentally changed the way people date, marry, and raise kids for the worse overall. I thought y'all were about equality? Men had empathy when they voted to give you a voice, can you just have a little empathy for the men honestly just trying to tell you what's wrong with your ideals and their effects?

>>127696870
>Women have never been opressed. It's a lie. Women are opressed because they are natural born retards, missing big parts of the brain compared to men. Anything a woman can do, a 17 year old boy can do. But I bet I could find 60.000 17 year olds and have them play an adult soccergame. Can't say the same for women.
never saw someone so stupid they contradicted themselves in one breath.

>>127697205
>such as alimony
alimony always favors by wealth, not gender, you dumb whore.

>>127697297
>In 40 percent of all U.S. households, women are the breadwinners. However, there is one significant area where there is still a great deal of gender disparity — alimony. According to the U.S. Census, only 3 percent of the 400,000 people receiving alimony are men

>>127672733
it'd be great if we did away with wealth redistribution which would make women submit willfully and naturally instead of being useful idiots for the status quo by listening to the poisonous brainwashing of the authoritarian kike media

>>127697297
Well I was gonna address your erroneous point but it seems you were contradicted before I could even refresh.

I'll just add that you are going by the official definition rather than examining real world effects, which is why you are a feminist and probably also socialist.

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>>127697231
T. Retard.>>127684546
>emoving the voting power of 50% of the country means that at least 20% of the country is going to be doing demonstrations.
Women will cry and bitch. Nothing more. Like they did before they got the vote. Some will kill themselves and blame it on not being allowed to vote. Like they did before they got the vote. Some will starve themselves because they can't vote, like they did before they got the vote. Some will smash some windows like retarded 12 year olds, like they did before they got the vote. But they won't organise without the help of men. If they could organise without men, they could take this challenge.
Build one house with everything installed without the help of men. 3,5 billion women can't do it.
When you dumb retards can't even do that, you can't do shit of men collectively decided to remove your vote. All have you have is talk, no action.
Switzerland waited until 1971 too give women the vote. They did not do shit. Because you retards can't do shit. Just talk talk talk.

>>127697297
Also if you could address the fundamental concepts I outlined rather than failing at pedantic detail nitpicking that would be super. I was mostly talking about how biology is fundamentally unequal and how feminism is not good for families and therefore not good for kids and you go off on the alimony detail, which you were wrong about, it makes me think you are out of your depth but I'm happy to be proven wrong.

>>127672733
Comunism is litearlly just the belief workers shouldn't be exploited.
Nazism is litearlly just the belief germans should come first in Germany.
Islam is litearlly just the belief people should get Allah's blessings.

and so on

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>>127697205
>en had empathy when they voted to give you a voice, can you just have a little empathy for the men honestly just trying to tell you what's wrong with your ideals and their effects?
No. They can't. They only respect power. Only. You need to come too terms with that as a man. They literally lack the brain capacity for what you are asking for. You really need to come too terms with that.
>>127695882

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>>127697205
>can you just have a little empathy for the men honestly just trying to tell you what's wrong with your ideals and their effects?

don't honestly see the point. I am best friends with someone who is sexist and believes in female mental inferiority and that we probably shouldn't vote. but we can and have had rational discussions on the matter if stressful ones. Talking to pol about it conversely only hammers home just how manic, hateful, and irrational this board is on the topic, linking tons of bogus stories and infographics, not discussing relevantly the science of the matter. I have yet to see anyone on this board actually explain in their own words any of the things they parrot, when pressed into a corner, they just shitpost and scream tits or gtfo. No one here wants to have meaningful dialogue or illuminate an unpaved part of the scientific literature and future study. Everyone on pol assumes they already have the answer and are shown to not even be able to comprehend the most basic of criticisms that don't even debunk but never the less require attention with their positions.

Its about the most infuriating thing in the world for me to read most of this bullshit. It's like a never ending parade of self righteous holier than thou r9k losers. The number of females acting like little shits I've seen is high but the only outcome I can concieve of that places women as inferior must result in pol being a super majority women because nearly no one here acts any differently. they react with huge emotional disproportion to events, subvert and use anything they like as a sockpuppet just like the sjws they criticize, and genuinely want to disenfranchise the opposite gender and kill minorities much like the rad fems.

>>127697460
>In 40 percent of all U.S. households, women are the breadwinners. However, there is one significant area where there is still a great deal of gender disparity — alimony. According to the U.S. Census, only 3 percent of the 400,000 people receiving alimony are men
unless this quote goes on to say of the 400,000 more than 3 % of the men make less than women, it is cherry picked nonsense.

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>>127698017
Dumb retard just proved my point. >>127697974

>>127672733
I am for them having the same responsibilities as a man.
Not this fucking joke of "I am stronk womin, i need all rights, but if I fuck up, man up and help me".

>>127698124
It already said 40% of men make less than women.

>>127672733
>Feminism is literally just the belief that woman and man are equal.
You can't fight wars like I can.
I can't bear children like you can.

We are not equal.

I believe in meritocracy. Do great things, receive great rewards.

Work harder, lazy cunt.

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>>127698224
>I am for them having the same responsibilities as a man.
But they can't do men's work. Are you also for children and teenagers having the same responsibilities as men? Because women are not men, they can't do what men can do. Why would you hand over responsibility too someone who is physically incapable of living up too that responsibility?

>>127696159
Women have extra opportunities actually. Exclusive scholarships, affirmative action, and a general pandering to female needs and desires that has been around in western culture for centuries are not luxuries that men enjoy. Women even pay less taxes even though they use public services and welfare more often than men. They clearly have more opportunities than men, its euphemism to say anything less.

>>127697726
>Women will cry and bitch. Nothing more. Like they did before they got the vote. Some will kill themselves and blame it on not being allowed to vote. Like they did before they got the vote. Some will starve themselves because they can't vote, like they did before they got the vote. Some will smash some windows like retarded 12 year olds, like they did before they got the vote. But they won't organise without the help of men. If they could organise without men, they could take this challenge.
so you are not only so stupid you contradicted yourself, you are so arrogant you think women aren't capable of standing around and impeding buisness. you're an idiot. Women are so self regulated they turned one of the most defining movements for social change; feminism, into a fucking cult.

>Build one house with everything installed without the help of men. 3,5 billion women can't do it.
most men couldn't either, enjoy being electricuted, really don't see the problem here, it's like you can't read. do you think women are going to have to build houses?

>When you dumb retards can't even do that, you can't do shit of men collectively decided to remove your vote. All have you have is talk, no action.
actually we make up a significant part of the work force, and are forced to pay taxes to the government for no reperations, a sizable minority of women withdrawing from the workforce would not only tank the economy and bottom line, but protesting would mean that they could further impede the function of society, clog the prison system to insoluability, and again, provide plenty of instability to this country through parasite groups piggy backing of protestors the longer you hold out.

>muh country gave switzerland the vote later
and? what makes you think this is meaningful? the point was never that we could make you give us the vote back, but rather, we would force you to choose between having your country in shambles or giving the vote back. fucking retards I swear.

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>>127698246
Yeah, and most women work in useless public positions that they themselves created with their suffrage. Women as a whole are still a net-loss. In every Western country. So some dumb bitch making big bank working in the public sector does not impress me at all.

>>127675533
>They are the little girl who needs guidance through life

I puked a little.
I am guiding myself through hardships of life, why I even should bother to have some freeloader cunt hopping on me when it actually brings me some reward?

>>127672733
Women are inferior in almost every way
Sage

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>>127698508
None of what you vote is even remotely true. Just talk talk talk.
>>127698508
>most men couldn't either
Lol.

>>127672733
Incorrect feminism does not equal unilateral equality, that would be egalitarianism.

Just saying.

>>127697919
I dont see any proof that alimony favors women. you could draw up similar figures for the sallaries of women and claim a wage gap. the point is who has the money in that situation. also, while I did reply to the whole of your post, I don't also feel I need to reply in full to anything. I understand though that most of pol acts too much like children to take criticism as it comes and are spoiling for a death match. The fact that you are wrong about something or that I can debunk a part of your statment but not all of it doesn't mean I need to stay silent. Treating every correction like an a front to your dignity is something a child would do, and is exactly the kind of thing you accuse us of doing. the goal of any discussion, contrary to pol's backwards way of things, is to reach more illumination on a topic. not shit post and have a "war"

>>127672733

equality is well definied in mathematics, but not sociology.
so clarify yourself. what does it mean for men and women to be equal?
what is your definition of 'equal' i this context?

>>127673064
>you don't get laid

Where's that feminism ad hominem and non-argument Bingo when I need it?!

No hymen no diamond

>>127698184
this is a perfect proof of my point. Back to shitposting
>>127698246
but it doesn't substantiate that of those paying alimony, it's to a richer partner.

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>>127695777
>using women hypothetically descending into violence at hypothetical football matches as evidence of their inferiority when 100% of real world football violence is committed by men chimping out

>>127698646
>muh no u
not an arguement, just more shit posting, typical pol.

I feel the argument for modern feminism is laughable. Especially when it comes from the lips of some cunt making 6 figures or more. Professional feminazi trolls easily make this much on the talk circuit, so of course they want the rage to go on into perpetuity, or at least until they retire.

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Reminder that women are treated like absolute shit in many parts of the world. And they just take it. They just accept it. Nothing is stopping us from removing their suffrage other then western men prefering too be women's subordinate little bitches. And that is why the West is dying, can't blame women for wanting too kill off such weaklings.

>>127698852
No it shows that women don't have to pay alimony to a poorer partner, only men have to support ex-wives who can't make money because before the 20th century most money was made with hard labor that women couldn't do and they could never support themselves without alimony.

>>127698879
Hello Retard. I can lower the bar. I can come up with even dumber experiments.

>>127699018
replace women with the poor and it's even more accurate. what is your point exactly. that tyranny exists?

>>127672733
No no. Ive seen what happens when people claim to be equal to me. You dont know what equal is. You think im rich. You think im a movie star. So you demand to be rich. And become an obnoxious attention whore. You cant be equal because you dont even know whats equal. All you know is what you see on TV and the internet. Youre just like niggers. See one too many movies and think all white people are rich.

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>>127699087
No it's not retard. You are just dumb dumb dumb dumb. When the communist uprising happened in Russia, the poor had a big play in it. When the french revolution happened. The poor had a big role too play. You are just dumb dumb dumb. Talk talk talk.

>>127699058
>durrr
the statement, and it was a fucking 4chan post with no source, never actually measured the wealth of the 3% vs the rest of it all. the onus is on you to provide real proof. no a 4chan post or an infographic isn't proof. a legit polling and study are proof. the number of men recieving alimony is irrelevant. what matters is cash disparity between that number, which isn't represented. 40% of women earning more than men doesn't mean 40% of women are earning alimony.

>>127699230
>communist uprising in russia
the communist uprising in russia only happened because the poor where litterally dying, same with france. you want a better example than either? try the potato famine you dumb nigger.

>>127698017
>I have yet to see anyone on this board actually explain in their own words any of the things they parrot, when pressed into a corner, they just shitpost

Maybe you should read the post you are replying to instead of using it as a springboard to launch a shitpost complaining about other people? Here I am giving you what you claim you want and in response you bitch abstractly about anonymous people who are trolling you. Goddamn that's so retarded I don't even know if it's worth pointing it out to you.

You didn't address my concerns with feminism, you took one question very obviously out of context (it was at the end for a reason!) And used it to blab about literally nothing. No wonder you're a feminist. Maybe the reason some men are more extreme in the way they express their views on feminism is because my moderate approach is clearly not getting through to you, so maybe trolling you is after all more worthwhile. Dumb hoe.

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>>127672733
>Are you guys actually against women having the same rights as men?
Yes. Women don't have the same mental capabilities as men and are unwilling to take on the same responsibilities, so they don't get to have the same privileges.

>Feminism is literally just the belief that woman and man are equal.
No, it isn't.

>Do you not want girls to grow up thinking that men see them as equal?
That is the exact opposite of what I want.

>>127699319
>durr
okay nice shit post. I already went over why your all war and no cooperation attitude is retarded, maybe It wasn't sinking in because I was being too polite, how about I just scream it into your retarded face

WHAT EXACT STATMENT DEFENDING FEMINISM ARE YOU EXPECTING FROM SOMEONE WHO CONSIDERS THE CURRENT MOVEMENT TO BE SUBVERTED BY A CULT YOU DUMB NIGGER?

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Women aren't capable of being independent they always fuck it up and are reliant on a mans guidance or support either through marriage or the state. The independent woman is a meme intended to destroy the traditional family structure.

I won't go into the details because you clearly need to lurk more but essentially women are better at being companions to men ie. children or dogs, than being independent agents. No amount of equal rights can solve this biological inferiority and there is nothing wrong with it, only when women are tricked by the Jews into believing they are just as strong and robust as men (physically, mentally, spiritually) does it all go tits up.

Women should not be in the workplace but rather should stay at home and practice traditional crafts like knitting and cooking. Women should not vote, across every nation women always vote for larger governments and more government intervention in the economy. It is significantly because of women voting for left wing political parties that the West is currently in its decline.

Imagine the difference between the US in 1920 and the US in 2017, or imagine the difference between the UK in 1928 and the UK in 2017. I'd argue the significant change that occurred to both countries in this period was women's suffrage. And what a change it was for the worst.

>pic related - female voters support for a left wing president rather than a right wing president in the Austrian election

>>127699018

it's not really about removing their rights, it's about treating them actually equally. men just dont do it, it's biologically wired into us that we help them constantly at everything.
we either need to take away their rights (which will rebound again anyway, like it always does in history) or we go the next step in the evolution of society and start making really harsh laws about preferential treatment of women. They must truly be exactly as capable as men, or else etc.

>>127699247
It was presented as a quote because it came directly from an outside source, you could just google the quote and see the source if you were interested in anything but pushing your feminist agenda.

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>>127675118

This is so true, many times I get mad pussy and THEY are the ones saying "but I don't want anything serious".

>>127699459
>you may as well do your own research
so in other words you don't have a source. gotcha.
either post the source or shut the fuck up.

>>127672733
>Are you guys actually against women having the same rights as men?
They do have the same rights as men

>Feminism is literally just the belief that woman and man are equal.
No, it's not. It's an ideology and an academic field. You are a useful idiot for feminism.

>Why wouldn't you want that? Do you not want girls to grow up thinking that men see them as equal?
Other people's perceptions about themselves are not my business. And they shouldn't be yours either.

>>127699417
>SOMEONE WHO CONSIDERS THE CURRENT MOVEMENT TO BE SUBVERTED BY A CULT
"The current movement" is just the logical conclusion of giving women "equal rights".

>>127699641
the current movement, actually is the logical conclusion to any movement sitting around with polarization with easy access to the internet.

>>127699314
if the kulaks were killing the poors, why did many (poor) fight the government to protect them (kulaks)?

>>127698723
Again you fail to address any main ideas and just want to get stuck in the weeds. Again, feminism hurts families and certain aspects of biology cause inequlity. I'm not even gonna argue the alimony point because it doesn't matter that I'm correct on that. All you have is non arguments and assumptions, if you ever wonder why people and men especially don't respect you or what you have to say.

>>127699595
Its information straight from the Census, do you have some sort of evidence that would show that somehow only the 60% of cases where men earn more do couples seek a divorce 97% of the time?

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>>127699485
Another experiment.
Take an air traffic control tower in a big city. Like London. Then say. Ok women, now you have control of that Air Traffic Control tower for a year, it's your job too make sure no planes crashes. No man enters that Air Traffic Control Tower for a year.
They can't do it. The lines of communication would break down and airplanes would start crashing within a month.
Prove me wrong. Protip. You don't dare.

>>127699734
the poor rose up to get what they needed to survive, the actual revolution just piggybacked on a rebellion and anarchy that was bound to happen.

>>127672733
Women and men should get their rights stripped away . Facist dictatorship is what we need

>>127699743
>it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, what? I spent almost have of my post saying you don't matter and that I was right on something that doesn't matter?
I don't often wonder that because I don;t often experiance it outside this shithole, and I'm not exactly surrounded by people who agree with me irl.
got anything except more shit to fling you disengenous faggot?

>>127699791
seems about right to me. excessive litigation is not exactly a secret in america, and I would hardly doubt people use divorces to get the money of the richer party.

>>127699732
> is the logical conclusion to any movement ...
Nope. It's the logical conclusion to a movement based on sheer entitlement and the false premise that women are capable of the same feats as men. This has been the case with feminism from day one.

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>>127700052
It's true. The jews pushed this because most jewish men are weaklings, not because they are jews.
((Schopenhauer)) is a good example of a based jew.

>>127700052
okay shamal, good one. but I'm not exactly seeing a land slide of proofs there. something you would need to overturn the some 70-80% of studies that propose nuetral or favor women for intelligence, amidst all the proponents of male superiority in this thread. Echo chambers aren't good enough. you have to explain in scientitic terms how all these different results where erroneous, and shilling doesn't work in science.

If the feminists win then the goatfuckers are going to rape and enslave you.

>Why wouldn't you want that.

For you? Sure. I want that. Just move to goatfucker kingdom and get raped. Let other women live a rape free existence.

>>127672733
>Implying they already don't have equal rights
They are now fighting for being ""more"" equal than men.

>>127672733
>Feminism is literally just the belief that woman and man are equal.
they're not though

women can get laid easily while men can't

>>127700019
So you expect hard sources from me, but you just pass along what seems right to you without any statistical insight?

You were the one who originally said the thing you doubt now is the thing that drives alimony or are you saying that women aren't people since they get 97% of alimony from their richer ex?

>>127700206
>prove to me that women aren't capable of the same feats as men
I simply don't care to engage with your denialism. The argument stands regardless of your denial of the solid facts behind it.

>>127672903
This

>>127695882
>>127700206
T. Retard.
There is a landslide of proofs, you just ignore them.

>>127699417
Fool I admitted from the first sentence that the men of the past were wrong. All war no cooperation? You're not convincing anyone but yourself hun. I'm just saying you still can't admit that feminism has destroyed families and relationships between men and women and that female biology incapacitates them for years at a time while childbearing, which leads to inequality which is no ones fault in particular. My points are pretty well reasoned while you fail to make any real ones and call me retarded when I call you out for not actually addressing the core issues which you still fail to do. Like damn maybe you shouldn't have equal rights. In arguing for them you just make me and most other men who read what you say think that you obviously can't handle such dangerous things. I wouldn't give my 4 yo son a gun, maybe y'all shouldn't have rights if this is how you use them.

>>127672733

Yup. Only those who will have to get drafted should be able to qualify, and of those who get drafted only those who pass a rigorous and difficult test should in the end be allowed to vote

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>>127675118
>Who hasn't gotten laid in 2017? The ease of vagina in this age is this insane

>>127700206
NBA vs WNBA
Ronda Rousey at her peak had to spar against male high school wrestlers to wrestle at her skill level
MtF transsexuals regularly dominate biological female competition

>>127676223
In addition, women despise any man lower on the pecking order so when they'll get into higher position as time goes by they'll destroy our society with their hateful world view.

>>127700583
>>127675118
>getting laid is easy
seriously. if you put up a tinder profile with
>uninteresting asshole. not very smart. not a selfish root tho. no relationships.
youll get hits. not great ones. but hits none-the-less

>>127700368
yes, because I'm not the one making a positive claim, you are.
>women aren't people
the point here is that women are on the whole, poorer, than men, and are more likely to abuse that power when divorcing someone.

>>127700374
I don't deny the opportunity to present a scientific case, and the arguement does stand on a shakey collection of evidence yes. denial that it needs improved isn't just ignorant, it's anti scientific.

>>127700424
no actually i don';t, you ignore them. there are many studies that show women do poorer on iq results. but they are dwarfed by ones that show no difference, and ones that show superior edge to the women. science is repeatable you retard.

>>127700465
>All war no cooperation? You're not convincing anyone but yourself hun.
no shit, thats why you continue to favor war over discussion and why you continue to cry like a whiny cunt whenever I address obvious faults while ignoring the rest of your non sequitur bullshit.

I already told you exactly why your non sequitors are non sequitors. the fact that you can't seem to parse them even in giant letters gives me little hope you aren't a delusional fuckwhit with no sense of seperation of reality and fantasy, completely unable to differentiate your hatred and preconcieved notions and the person you project them on.

>>127699595
Common knowledge does not require a source, but seriously all you have to do is look at the official US gov census results. It's common knowledge that divorce court favors the woman in both high profile celebrity and common Joe cases. This source badgering is just desperate, please shatter my worldview by contradicting what most men believe to be common knowledge based on years of census results. Now watch as you continue to source badger or nitpick something unimportant and run with it.

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>>127700683
>he thinks we're talking about muscle
we're talking brains here idiot. try to keep up chad.

also
>wrestling

>>127674325
this

>>127700914
>durr
common knowledge is bullshit knowledge. I prefer science, and it's also common knowledge that women make 77% of the dollar men do, yet analyze that figure and it comes up wanting. why the fuck shouldn't I be just as suspicious in a system where money is king and is going to affect how someone is percieved more than any other aspect?

>>127700853
You made the positive claim that 97% of divorces are from 60% of the population because it seems right.

>on the whole
No, 60% of the time as opposed to 97% of alimony's how do you account for that huge differential if not gender bias?

>>127677230
i think that chick's a lesbian senpai

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>>127700853
>no actually i don';t, you ignore them. there are many studies that show women do poorer on iq results. but they are dwarfed by ones that show no difference, and ones that show superior edge to the women. science is repeatable you retard.
Good job on making more men convinced you should not vote. I thank you for your service.

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This is what equality looks like.

>>127701036
>You made the positive claim that 97% of divorces are from 60% of the population because it seems right.
I made a counterpoint. I don't have anything I need to prove here. you have to have a substantiated opinion for it to be worth debunking.

>>127701102
wow much science, very study, much peer review.

>responding to cunt threads
Sage and report

>>127700839
if you put a tinder profile up with >i'm 5' 6" see what happens

>>127701103

to be fair anyone any of those spanish fucks who harass bulls deserve the horns

>>127700019
Well like I said I tried talking about important things but you want to get stuck in the weeds and be shitty so this is kind of lame for me. I'm not surprised that you are relatively isolated in your beliefs, you don't use reason and are an asshole about it desu. Have a fantastic life of oppression precious snowflake, remember that it's everyone else's fault no matter what, don't let that ego shatter.

>>127700853
>and the arguement does stand on a shakey collection of evidence yes
The argument stands both on direct evidence in the form well-established and repeatedly confirmed differences in the brain structures and IQ curves of males and females, as well as indirect evidence in the form of male domination of virtually every intellectual field. I could sit here all day providing you study after study (as I've done many times before) and you'll keep dismissing each one. The reality is that the only people still arguing about this are way too far gone with their ideological dogma, and completely impervious to scientific evidence, so I'm not going to bother looking it all up for you just to receive responses like:
>Well it's only 7 different studies! I've read 20 that say otherwise! Google it!
>This study only tested 120 different people! That's statistically insignificant and doesn't prove anything.
Etc. etc. Anyone who's ever tried having a legit evidence-based discussion with trash like you can confirm my experience.

>>127672733
They already do though. At least in Western countries.
Send them off to fight the Saudi patriarchy.

>>127672733
sage

>>127701243
>Well like I said I tried talking about important things but you want to get stuck in the weeds and be shitty so this is kind of lame for me
You repeated this big lie about 5 times by now, I've read it every time but as I've already stated numerous times, I'm not going to repeat myself. you are posting shit that isn't relevant to what I'm adressing, if you have a problem with the fact that I'm not fulfilling your fantasies of being someone who is your complete oppposite and who can offer those insights, that is your own fantasy that needs to be filled elsewhere, preferably along with your delusions on the supposed "hugbox" of my best friend wanting less human rights for me that I inhabit.

>>127701225
day of the horn when

>>127701278
>The argument stands both on direct evidence in the form well-established and repeatedly confirmed differences in the brain structures and IQ curves of males and females,
this is the only thing you posted of any relevance, and as I said, it is not as well established as you think it is, considering the bulk of papers disagree, and the results have been objectively difficult to reproduce down to a veriety of methadolical factors. you seem to also be avoiding discussion and refering back to big lie, rhetoric, and parroting. Provide something worth discussing you moron or just don't speak.

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>>127672733
If you want equality, everything should be equal, not just the things you're jealous about.

The military should be 50/50 men and women, there should be an equal number of women working hard labor jobs.

You can't cherry pick the things you want, it's all or nothing.

You'd rather stay in the kitchen? I thought so.

>>127701128
You didn't make a reliable counter point, you countered with your inability to check sources and an opinion of yours and that seems right in an effort to counter statistical numbers provided by the census bureau.

>>127700206
>shilling doesn't work in science
t. someone who never came in contact with academia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxpVwBzFAkw

You haven't seen this one yet?

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>>127672733
>Are you guys actually against women having the same rights as men?
Yes
>Why wouldn't you want that? Do you not want girls to grow up thinking that men see them as equal?
Because equality is a lie and women are intellectually inferior
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEUXxLlVKLw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKWoKxC-tQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YySxVR7M3Xo