Where does all the estrogen come from?

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>>127656328
weed

>>127657074
possibly so

>>127656328
Xenoestrogens in metals and plastics, not to mention water for showers/washing dishes.

>>127656328
milk

Satan. More specifically the plastic he pollutes the earth with.
Biggest faggot to ever exist.

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>>127657074
thats what the globalist want you to think

meay and dairy products, your body also produces it from soy and wheat.

beer (hops) and soy

>>127656328
The fluoride in the water gave my son bitch tittays

>>127657558
I stopped drinking milk and about 80% of my acne stopped within a month. Haven't had milk in 4 years now.

>>127657558
This, I have these, and I drank a TON of milk growing up.

>>127657457
nothing is safe. that water is used to even grow "organic" foods.
can't even take a shower without it seeping into my skin without being bitchified.

>>127656328
Chronic masturbation milk. Prove me wrong.

>>127657574
what a manly MAN!

that man is just fat. until he loses enough fat to have a flat stomach there is no telling how much of that breast tissue was hormonal and how much is just him being fat

>>127657074
provide a source pls

Tap water

Bpa

Soy products in nearly every processed food

Cheap non organic milk with growth hormones

Theres more these are just the ones off the top of my head.

>>127658249
no those are tits, men don't develop underboob like that without excess estrogen

Dairy products since they contain high amounts of female hormones

>>127657558
milk is bad for you past weening. too much calcium leeches your bones

>>127658335
http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/05/health/youn-pot-moobs/

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>Where does all the estrogen come from?

from low T

>>127658503
Please remember to archive media renowned for shilling and clickbait. Wayne Lambright is a transient homosexual with schizophrenia.

https://archive.is/b36G5 <- cnn.com article

>>127658148
it's the steam that gets into your pores, hot water+steam causes them to open.

tl;dr: ICE cold showers only, good old scottish shower

Living in highly populated areas with easy access to everything turns you into a woman.

>>127656328
(((Vaccines)))

>>127656328
>http://columbiasurgery.org/conditions-and-treatments/sex-hormone-producing-tumor
Either a tumor, unmonitored steroid use, or if you just produce way too much testosterone your body will convert the excess into estrogen.

Basically any excess of steroids could potentially give you tits.

Soy
Brunch
Applebees

Most don't know this

>>127658528
R u a bot?

>>127657074
Weed and beer and soy

>>127656328
I don't know but make it stop

>>127658789
Nope

>>127656328
in men, estrogen is produced in the fat tissue. The fatter you are, the more estrogen your body produces. Obesity epidemic leads to higher estrogen levels
phytoestrogens - especially from soy - that are in shitloads of prefabricated foods
plastics that contain chemicals like BPA
possible water supply contamination due to metric fucktons of estrogen-based birth control being pissed and flushed into the system.

>>127656328
what exercises could he do to fix that chest? asking for a friend of a friend

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>>127656328
iodine deficiency.

>>127656328
hormone laced meats and drinking water tainted with the remnants of millions of birth control pills peed out by chicks. also xenoestrogens in plastic and the greater and greater amounts of soy in processed foods. It's all of that in aggregate that adds up to enough to fuck men up but good. Add "feminist" commie self-loathing programming/brainwashing and you've got a serious problem.

>>127657457
>>127658148
This has been studied fairly thoroughly, xenoestrogens aren't anywhere near as potent as human analogs, and they're too dilute to have a noticeable effect on adults. There is some evidence that soy should be avoiding by pregnant women and newborns because of it though.

>>127657558
This. I see so many people memeing about estrogen levels in plant-based milks and then chug cow milk, which contains massive amounts of estrogen.

>>127657457
Wtf? Should I stop drinking bottled water than? Fuck sake.

>>127658148
You do seem to be quite the bitch. I believe you.

>>127658915
shut up and give me the solution

>>127658915
>in men, estrogen is produced in the fat tissue. The fatter you are, the more estrogen your body produces. Obesity epidemic leads to higher estrogen levels
fuck yes, this too. it seems we're on much the same page

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>>127658881
Precisely what a bot would say.

>>127656328
>masturbating with your own boobs
how can women compete

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>>127656328
Why do jews do this?
It's not like it doesn't effect them.
Crazy inbred bastards.

>>127658937
if your friend has a chest like that, he's basically fucked

>>127658148
I suspect there are water filters that could help with at least some of it. Also, move to the country and get yourself on well water. Test it of course, to be sure.

Tin cans, water bottles and birth control user's urine.

>>127659029
Avoid plastic containers if you can.

Especially ones that have been sitting out in the sun for a while.

>>127656328

-Xenoestrogens
-Birth control contaminating water supply
-Elevated body fat % stores estrogen and antagonizes testosterone.

Get in shape. Lift. Avoid plastics as much as possible. Eat lots of fruit and vegetables.

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From being lazy. You can eat/drink whatever you want as long as you exercise/work out.

>>127658937
He needs to stop eating like a fat fuck to lose his fucking fat.
That man is medically obese.

>>127656328
fat

>>127658384
WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DRINK TAP WATER WAS MY MAIN SOURCE OF DRINKING

>>127658954

first legit answer, besides plastic

I literally cannot stop masturbating

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>>127656328

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>>127659047

>>127656328
The water, they're turning the frogs gay!

>>127656328

>implying

I'm ripped as fuck at 210, 6'0" and my body is covered with hair, especially my torso and ass. I literally don't have a single drop of estrogen in my body.

>b-but you're too high-T you'll go bald

Wrong again, cuckbois. I also have a thick and well-kept mane of chestnut locks atop my bronzed visage. I am a golden god.

>>127659399
Just cut the other shit out, eat more foods that help boost test or kill estrogen, and workout.
If you do all that the tap water alone will have a non-noticeable effect.

>>127659399
Save up and buy a water filter.

I'm glad I did, the neighboring municipality had to close their wells because the arsenic levels were too high. Who knows what other shit is in the water?

>>127659494
>round faces
whats the /pol/ approved face shape?

>>127656328
By being literally fat. More fat you have the higher the hormone estrogen is produced. Stop being so fat and you won't be some shameful meatbag with tits. If you had tits during high school, sucks for you surgery is the only way.

>>127659399

Has atrazine in it and fluoride. Atrazine is literally making frogs sterile you can google it.

Get a reverse osmosis filter if you csn those arw ideal. If not get a berkey filter with the fluoride filters.

>>127659611
I like Hey Arnold desu senpai

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>>127658717
is he natty?

>>127659487
Womans do it too, so estrogen could also cause that.

Does weed really have an effect at all on your tits?

>>127659591

Also this aside from atrazine and fluoride, there can be alot of other shit in tap water. Flint isnt the only place where this happens. Lead has made it into many water supplies as well as other inorganic compounds which can fuck you up.

>>127659036
Here's the final solution, famalam:
STOP EATING SOY
GET OFF YOUR ASS AND FUCKING LIFT
USE SOME SORT OF WATER FILTER
DRINK OUT OF GLASS CONTAINERS. NO PLASTIC CUPS

>>127656328
Birth control in the water supply.

>>127659494
>sun flower seeds
I have nothing to live for

>>127658954
Very true.

There's very little Iodine, and Magnesium, in the SAD.

The soil's been depleted of nutrients thanks to shitty Agrocorp practices.

>>127656328
aromatisation of T to E in fat cells, stop being fat, also fuck the captcha, 8 screens of roads & cars to identify, they're getting to greedy.

>>127657558

I drink about 2 gallon whole milk a week and low body fat and huge dick and balls. You guys are just neets that do zero exercise

so is this a Trap thread or what?

>>127660049
No. Traps are fags.

>>127659975
t. power bottom

>>127659975
>I drink about 2 gallon whole milk
Are you a baby cow ?

>>127658704

Underrated.

>>127658607
cold as possible showers are good for the spirit anyways. i only wish i could get the water colder because you get used to it after about 30 seconds. if i could get it to just barely 32.5 degrees with some tiny ice flakes falling down it would be perfect

>>127659841
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/920892

Be army manly and you'll be fine.

Beer, weed, meat and dairy, plastics

>>127659841
no lol

>>127660238
Mental illness

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>>127660213
1) phoneposting should be a bannable offense
2) 2 gallons a week is fucking nothing. I used to unironically do GOMAD during busier times where I didn't have the time to buy, prep, and cook "real food" every day.

>>127660213

Its cheap calories and tons of protein, plus its easy to get down in large quantities

>>127659975
Show pics

>>127659494

Very good, but how do I raise my testosterone?

sissy hypno and tgirl friends will turn you into a bitch too

>>127660574
are you talking about cum

I know it says not to drink out of plastics, but what if i just fill a disposable plastic cup up with water and drink it and throw it away? Is that bad?

>>127660826

How did you know

>>127656328
How the fuck do we combat this???? I look like lovehandle larry.

>>127660885
>don't drink of out plastics
>is it okay to drink out of plastics
???

the only way to save yourself is to hop on SERMS or aromatase inhibitors. estrogens are everywhere these days.

>>127656328
spending all day whining on 4chan

>>127660492
>>127660574
You must be young still, as we mature into adulthood our ability to digest milk diminishes, it's nature's way of telling us to stop suckling tit juice, and drinking bovine tit juice is degenerate under any circumstance, no real white man would consider it.

>>127659214
What do you drink out of then? Glass / boxed?

>>127658881
I admire your commitment to archiving, sir/ma'am. We could all learn something from you.

>>127657074
weirdly I've grown tits after I stopped smoking, something in the jail food got it started fucking joke possession of cannabis is a criminal offense

>>127661211
Glass, metal, and ceramic containers preferably.

it is over eating; sedentary lifestyle; chemicals in food

>>127660885
dumb spicnigger, no.

>>127661023
SERMs won't lower your estrogen levels. IIRC, they slightly raise estrogen due to some negative feedback hocus pocus. They just prevent the estrogen from causing gyno. But the estrogen is still there having other effects (ie, mentally). They're only good for preventing/treating gyno.

Aromatase inhibitors will actually lower your estrogen, but they actually don't have any effect in treating gyno, strangely enough. But you also have to be careful with these things. It's also not good to have your estrogen levels flatline. It can probably lead to some problems like weakening bones or something.

>>127661337
i heard they banned smoking because it is an estrogen inhibitor

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>>127661124
t. shitskin. True whites can digest gallons of milk without issue.

>>127656328
>adurr a stare a a screen 10 hours a day while stuffing my face with shitty processed food and sugar

>>127656328
The only way to treat gyno is with surgery. You will probably want to talk to a endocrinologist to figure out what caused your gyno.

t.bitchtits

>>127661488
you can't reduce your breast tissue without surgery. If there was a way to do it w/out surgery, butch dykes would be eating or dosing whatever it was to get flat chests.

You gotta cut the breasts you have out and it costs between 5-8K us green dollars

>>127661488
I'm on clomid every 3 days to help with sperm count. It hasn't raised my estrogen.

>>127661337
Jail food is like all soy based man thats why.

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>>127657570
>Satan. More specifically the plastic he pollutes the earth with.

Satan hates Jews and love beauty. Jews hate beauty and nature and Christians love death

Figure it out goy!

Jews hijacked Satan and he hates their father!

>>127659494
Damn I've been using Stevia as a sugar substitute for years now...

I drink half a liter of milk daily, should I stop /pol/?

>>127656328
Thats probably just gravity affecting the direction your bitch tits grow. You stand there slumped at a computer/playing vidya all day and fat in your bitch tits stretches your skin.

>>127656328
Steroid abuse

>>127656328
It's good for you anyway.
I use tons of phytoestrogens in my supplement stack and it gives me god-tier skin. The boobs aren't bad cause I'm pretty skinny anyway plus I like wearing dresses.

>>127659399
Nigga get a couple glass jugs and fill them with alkaline water at a local water store

If that's not an option just add baking soda to distilled water

>>127661987
Man and bra's don't help it not droop maybe they would help the marks though hmm.

>>127659494
>Stevia
You're not fooling me Dan Quinn

>>127662055
Hahaha

>>127661591
>True whites can digest gallons of milk without issue.
No adult can, you must be under 25, save this post & read it again when you're 30, mark my words, your tolerance of bovine udder juice will wane, it's the way of nature.

>>127659399
>>127662139
Might want to add a small amount of sea salt as well just to make sure you get your minerals

>>127656328
These threads.

>>127661713
>you can't reduce your breast tissue without surgery.
Not actually true. There have been several studies showing that tamoxifen can reduce breast size in men with gyno.

>>127661855
A certain effect doesn't necessarily happen in everyone. Or there might not be enough estrogen production in men to begin with to even notice a bump. I can't say. I do know that some people do experience a slight increase.

>>127662413
No it doesn't. It depends if you have had an appendectomy and what you eat. Maintain a gut flora capable of digesting lactose and you'll be just fine.
Lactose intolerant people can just use supplements to add lactose digesting bacteria to their gut and they're just fine.

>>127662139
Ok, what's the deal with Alkaline water?

I've added ACV to water before, but why baking soda?

>>127659399
drink zippy water

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>>127662413
Keep telling yourself that, muhammad

>>127662055
This, thanks jewdaddies

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>fat as a kid
>got gyno
>lost all the weight and grew tall
>puffy gyno nips won't go away

>>127659714
hes a fatty

>>127658915
Don't forget fragrances. Stay away from scented candles and air fresheners. Get rid of all plastic containers and even teflon type pans, just use them ceramic non-stick pans. I don't trust that non-stick teflon shit just dissolving right into your fucking food, that's madness.

>>127659494
sunflower seeds are my snack bro wtf

>>127662139
the local water store?
the local water store
>the local water store

>>127662738
Have you tried building muscle on your chest?

>>127662738
Getting some muscles might help there a bit but yeah there's a reason bitch tits is used even for MMA fighters.

>>127662632
worked for the samster

>>127657558
Probably this, I drank lots of milk and had milk with cereal almost every day for breakfast growing up and now I have gyno almost as bad as in OP picture.

>>127657457
>>127658148
Can it be said that the fight against feminization is just a normal fight of being a male in this world. Though fighting against it makes you even stronger/more masculine than you would have been under other conditions. Other conditions being not having a feminizing environment but a neutral or masculating one

>>127662686
It's good shit.
My supplement stack is:
>astaxanthin algae
>resveratrol
>isoxanthohumol
>8-prenylnaringenin
>biochanin A
>genistein
>daidzein
>puerarin
>flax lignan extract
>alpha acids from hops
I'm 28, zero wrinkles, most people think I'm 16/17 years old unless I grow my beard out. No hair loss to speak of, very nice hair actually.

What about eating insects?
>Inb4

They're the most efficient way to make a protein source in your own home unless you raise chickens or rabbits

Gut load some crickets and you're good to go right?

>>127662874
Aye, that's another one. Especially shit like lavender oil or whatever the fuck that people rub themselves with for whatever reason. Essential oils have estrogenic properties.

As for teflon, no way I'm giving that shit up. To convenient. It can flake off though. And while some sources say it's nontoxic, others say it can cause flu-like symptoms. But regardless, it only starts decomposing and getting into food if it's at an insanely hot temperature. In other words, you should only be using teflon to cook low-temp things like eggs. NOT tearing steaks on high heat and smoking up the place.

>>127662874
but i love to rub coconut and vanilla lotions all over my smooth tanned body

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>>127662606
Alkaline water, when drank in between meals, helps to bring the average pH of the body to a more alkaline level. Why is that good, you ask? Well basically the body trends more and more acidic as you age, and acidity in localized regions of the body has a tendency to promote cancer because it cause the mitochondria to shut down, and without them, malfunctioning cells that are going cancerous can't be culled. Basically the mitochondria tell these cells

>Kys

..and the cells do it. But without the mitochondria the cells chimp out and think they can take on the whole rest of the body and suddenly cancer.

Note that drinking alkaline water during meals just means you'll have to create more stomach acid, so drinking it during meals doesn't really so shit except make your enzyme producing organs work harder. Also drinking water that is TOO alkaline fucks up potassium absorbtion, so if you're buying it from a store try to stay in the 8.0 - 8.8pH range

Shadilay niggas

It's a cruel tragedy that so many fucking things can increase your estrogen levels, and yet there's basically NOTHING to increase your testosterone. I mean, there's saturated fat, but that's only true if you're a faggot vegan on some low-fat diet. If you're already getting enough sat fat, more isn't going to increase your test. It's not like with estrogen where there's a million different things that will raise it, even accidentally.

>>127656328
It's just Less Testosterones
>>127657558
Yes if it isnt organic
>>127659335
This. Do any type of exercise regularly
>>127659937
>>127659494
>>127661712
This

>>127662941
I live in Phoenix Arizona where water is as scarce as on the planet Arrakis so there are special stores, usually quite small, which sell water, ice, containers for water.. and usually candy or ice cream as well

>>127663611
Is maca root just a meme then?

>>127656328
Lack of exercise and shitty diet.

Had small ones for years, went backpacking a few years ago and ate little to nothing, they were gone in a month.

They're easy to lose. Stop acting like they're permanent and get rid of them.

>>127663611
this is on purpose

>>127663334
Dude, I just had a teflon pan completely go to shit in like 3 months. Like it became so crappy it couldn't cook rice properly, the rice would be all mushy and weird yet incredibly hot and burn my tongue a little bit. Where did the teflon go? Keep in mind I literally only cooked rice in it, I'm not searing steaks.

I replaced it with a ceramic non-stick, it's every bit as good as teflon, you're not giving up anything. I only used that one because my momma gib it to me.

>>127663611
Are you kidding me? Simply exercising rockets your T up to the fucking moon stop being a lazy ass.
T is one of the most difficult hormones to lower not to raise. You're just lazy.

>>127657558
What do I substitute instead of milk then?

For my oats and cereal and such?

>>127663889
Teflon is long chain carbon polymers with fluoride attached. If you manage to rip the fluoride atom off those polymers you should alert the Nobel Prize committee because that's quite the achievement. You could do it with about 1000-2000 celsius temps or a laser maybe.

>>127663611
https://youtu.be/Cv4dnss3s_c

>>127660492
How did you know he was phoneposting?

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>>127662584
>>127662635
Save this post doubters for I am the ghost of your lactose intolerant future woooooooo

>>127663788
I'm pretty sure it works, speaking from personal experience, but only a wee bit. It also acts as a stimulant when you have it with both caffeine and protein, it's good shit to mix in your breakfast coffee but don't do too much or your heart may explode.. work your way up don't just start with a whole tablespoon or some shit

>>127663611
>there's basically NOTHING to increase your testosterone.

EXCERCISE.
FUCKING EXCERCISE.
ANY TYPE OF EXCERCISE.

>>127656328
Soy products.


Eat beef, lift weights, drink hearty, die young.

>>127663889
metal utensils

>>127656328
A lack of natural selection for close to a century, especially past 1945.

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>>127664343
Soy is just fine if you don't eat a lot of it.
Receptor response is a sigmoidal curve, not linear. Keep your dosage of estrogenic products near the bottom of the sigmoid curve and you're just fine.
Go above the bottom curve to feel like a girl :3

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>>127664228
>How did you know he was phoneposting?
He didn't, I'm not, the delusions are probably just his lactose intolerance kicking in.

>>127663944
>T is one of the most difficult hormones to lower not to raise.
Bullshit. Testosterone is one of the most finicky hormones. You even have to get blood labs drawn from several times throughout the day to get a true diagnosis of low test, just because of how variable it is. Literally EVERYTHING will throw off your test levels. Not enough sleep? Drank a beer? Ate some soy? Boom, lowered/inhibited testosterone

>You're just lazy.
Stop projecting, anon. I've been lifting for years. Lifting hard is obviously hard work compared to the ways of increasing estrogen, such as unwittingly eating out of goddamn plastic container or a soy-containing snack bar. I never complained about MY testosterone being low. I'm just saying it's a hell of a lot easier to find ways to increase estrogen than increase testosterone.

It is $30 to get your total and free testosterone level tested in the USA, no doctor visit required. Just search the internet, buy the test and visit any labcorp or quest lab. If you are getting bitch tits get a "Sensitive Estrogen Test". Easy enough to fix this shit with testosterone and Arimidex.

>>127664228
How did you know he was phoneposting ?

>>127664569
Fucking liar. I'm on to you, muhammad

>>127662413
LCT gene => Lactase

>>127658786
not enough high quality oils. nobody talks about this.

>>127664657
T is fucking hard to lower. Do you think trannies just stumble into girlhood? They have more estrogen in them than 90% of women plus require antiandrogens.
Testosterone is a beast and your testicles via simple cardiovascular exercise increase T by like 20-30%. That's by like running 15-20mins a day. That's nothing.

I take flax lignans for prostate cancer (cause I had cancer when I was born) and it reduces T by about 10-20% if and only if I megadose on it. I eat more flax than you could possibly ever ingest because I buy lignan extracts from china in bulk and even then I only reduce my DHT by about 30-40% and my T by about 15%.
T is not easy to reduce in any way whatsoever if you live a healthy lifestyle.

>>127661919
He's lying to you, what a surprise

>>127656328
Birth control tablets. Women's piss after using the pill contains a large amount is estrogen that doesn't or cannot be filtered out properly ends up in the water supply.

>>127664657
Imagine if there were a bunch of things we do every day that inadvertently raised your test levels

We'd all be jacked muscle monsters

>>127665177
Only in the US. Most countries test their water supplies. I know Australia does cause I've seen water test reports from there. Same with Canada.
The US is the only country I'm aware of that doesn't test their water for estrogen.

>>127659924
You don't get Iodine from eating foods high in it besides kelp and maybe some seafood. You get Iodine from literal rock salt and sea salt. All our table salt has added Iodine already. Provided you live in a developed country, you have to go out of your way to not get enough Iodine.

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>>127656328
mostly from faggotry induced as a physiological reaction to extended periods spend posting on imageboards. Also, I hear that it can also be produced by ingesting large volumes of black semen.

>>127664977
What sort of fucked-up logic is this? Just because you can't easily lower your testosterone to female-equivalent levels, that means testosterone ISN'T easy to lower?

Go look up what it takes for a diagnosis of low T. Go look up the effects on testosterone synthesis anything from sleeplessness to alcohol to weight loss to low-fat diets to plastic bottles to soy consumption, etc etc etc. This is all shit that's been studied. There's a fuckton of little things in life that can negatively impact your test.

>>127659494
Here's what I've been doing
>wash and moisturize face with jojoba oil
>use basic castile soap
>not sure about deodorant, still using aluminim, nothing else fights B.O. You euros, B.O. is that onion smell that armpits make. In the US it's considered impolite.
>mostly organic, mostly whole foods. Potatoes and rice are totally okay in abundance, it's about "eating real shit from the floor" not carbs.
>no meat unless you earn it.
>you earn meat either physically (from someone's hunt) or monetarily (by paying the premium of local, organic farming). this waddling over to the supermarket is entirely unsustainable. there's no way 300million people can do that, cheaply, and not have horrific consequences
>no liquid products stored in plastic
>no scented candles or fragrances anywhere
>ceramic, SS, cast iron cookware

>>127665332
Except shit like Bromide displaces Iodine, which is in a lot of American flour.

>>127665629
A 20% reduction in T is not female levels..... I'd need like 90-95% to be a girl.

>>127656328
Plastics, tiny penises, and human evolution

http://blogs.plos.org/neuroanthropology/2015/04/19/plastics-and-human-evolution/

>>127660634
Lift weights, get 8 to 9 hours of sleep a night, don't drink alcohol, or if you do, don't drink IPAs/hippy beer. Masturbate once a week or less, same with shampooing your hair. The biggest thing is hygiene products that aren't filtered out by your liver.
Your body naturally produces all the testosterone you need,but like I said, lifting increases test. If you want, use test boosters/estrogen blockers

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>>127661919

Matthew 4:8

>παλιν παραλαμβανει αυτον ο διαβολος εις ορος υψηλον λιαν kαι δειkνυσιν
αυτω πασας τας βασιλειας του kοσμου kαι την δοξαν αυτων

>Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.”

>Then Jesus said to him, “Away with you, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.’”

>Then the devil left Him, and behold, angels came and ministered to Him.

>>127665494
semen is white bruh, black semen would have something seriously wrong with it, diseased most likely

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>>127656328
I'm a fat fuck but even my tits aren't that bad. How come I can't grow facial hair even half as good as his? FUCK!!!

>>127660634
Also, warm plastic is a test killer

>>127659874
thanks broski

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>>127659029
Dasani water contains Potassium Chloride. The claim their customers "demand it for taste". Potassium Chloride is one of the three main ingredients for lethal injection. WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY PUTTING THAT IN DRINKING WATER ?!!

>>127658937
Only surgery can fix it

>>127665753
You take in salt in everything from soda, canned foods, burgers, fries. Even if bread lacks iodine, you're getting enough in everything else.

>>127657074
Bullshit. Plenty of lean alpha males smoke weed. Same with beer. It's just geneticals.

>>127666182
Because individual compounds can have numerous different effects based on what it is mixed with.

>>127656328

Birth control pills use them, and our water treatment doesn't remove estrogen. Estrogen pollution is a huge, not talked about problem.

>>127666182
>Potassium Chloride is one of the three main ingredients for lethal injection. WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY PUTTING THAT IN DRINKING WATER ?!!

This is the dumbest fucking shit I've ever heard in my life. Yes, pushing mega doses of KCl will cause severe hyperkalemia and cardiac arrest. That doesn't mean KCl itself is inherently bad for you. Do you realize how much fucking potassium you'd need to consume to get anywhere near a similar effect as a lethal IV push of concentrated potassium? It's like saying that the fortified iron in breakfast cereal is the same as stabbing someone in the chest with an iron rail spike

>>127666830
lmao it's not a huge problem at all. Canada does weekly testing for it.
The US gets all our runoff though. I hope I piss out all my estrogen for americans to drink.

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>>127664803
>Fucking liar. I'm on to you, muhammad
y mad bro ?

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>>127664977
White Peony & Red Reishi will severely impact Testosterone. But I agree, it is hard to lower T. WP+RR are strong anti-androgens.

>>127656328
GMO soy and corn via Monsanto.

>>127667142
Nah those don't lower T. I've used those for supplements and I get my hormones tested and they don't do very much.

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I would really like to see some sort of study on estrogen polution, hormones are fragile structures as far as i know and they should never survive intact in the water supply... That said i am also not a professional and would love to know more

>>127666833
I didn't say they used the same dose. I said the same ingredient. Doesnt matter that doses in the water are not harmful. Do a public taste test and tell people one of the ingredients added to the water is used in lethal injection, and watch every single person recoil in horror.

When I do purchase water, I don't normally go looking for lethal injection drugs on the side.

>>127667380
I respectfully disagree.

>>127667607
Despite what you read on /pol/ it's actually a very very common test to do and Canada has done a ton of studies on it. In Alberta we've relocated our water intake sources numerous times over the past 60 years due to estrogen.
The reason /pol/ freaks out about it is because the US is literally the only country on the planet that doesn't test their water for organic pollutants like estrogen whereas every other country on the planet does and they do actually adjust their water intakes based on that.

>>127666182
pharmacist here,just go to bed anon

>>127659494
this is borderline schizophrenic

>>127667647
>Do a public taste test and tell people one of the ingredients added to the water is used in lethal injection, and watch every single person recoil in horror.
All that would prove is that most people are ignorant of basic biochemistry. It's no different than those prank videos getting people to sign pledges to ban "dihydrogen monoxide".

Trace amounts of common salts are in water. Stop the fucking presses. Did you know iodine is in our table salt? The same stuff used in CHEMOTHERAPY against thyroid cancer???

xenoestrogens play a part, but the fact that you sit on your ass all day posting on a senegalese fuel siphoning forum is an even bigger one

>>127657074
Beer is alot more likely the source.

Also dairy and beef.

>>127656328
good question as i understand it estorgen comes from testostrone via aromotase as the enzyme....

the aromotase is in many tissues in the male but esspecially fat

so the fat you get the worse it gets.

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Society. We aren't living off the land invading other tribes and fighting for land to death with swords and shields.

Unless you just EMP everything down to a crisp and do away with electricity or a nuclear war happens this weakening of man to machines will not reverse.

>>127662738
Me to anon

>>127656328
i was reading today and the dr said that high carbohydrate diet consisting of processed grains can cause men to make way more estrogen than they need.

he said that people go to the doctor and the doctor checks their testosterone levels then finds it is low so he gives them a testosterone supplement. This works for people for a while but they often crash to being worse than before. he said he had a patient with such a history come in and checked his estrogen levels and they were 5 times higher than they should have been. He says getting on a healtheir diet helps stop the process of testosterone converting to estrogen. I cant remember exactly what it was all called but apparently its a thing. So stop eating the processsed jew if you dont want man titties.

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>>127656328
aliens

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>>127656328
you guys are overplaying the water thing, a lot of it has to do with culture/upbringing and environment

also post your personality, don't cheat

http://www.celebritytypes.com/gender/test.php

>>127668525
Only sensible answer that's not riddled with conspiracy, arm chair scientist, or environmental alarmist bullshit

>>127656328

Plastic food and drink containers, bovine meat products, milk products (cheese etc, from any animal). Theirs other sources but remove those from your diet and you will see a change in your physique in 3 or 4 months.

>>127658517
Man, Colombians, Venzuelans, & Brazilians are fucking thicccccc

>>127666182
Is there a refillable plastic bottle that doesn't have this issue? Should I switch to metal?

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>>127669660
In Canada plastic bottles are all PETE which is plasticizer-free.
You can look at the little recycling symbol on the bottle and if it's pic related there's no bpa

>>127658517

BBBBBRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAPPPPPPP

>>127659975

Why do you drink the milk of another animal? Drink human milk.

>>127656328
/pol/

>>127668551
This

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>>127656328
One of the biggest contributors or unusually high estrogen levels in men is the plastic used to wrap and package foods and beverages. There is something in the plastic that contaminates the food and beverages of stuff we buy that makes more estrogen produce in men's bodies. So any of you who go grocery shopping or have someone do that for you, make sure to tell them (or just you yourself) buy products ((healthy foods and beverages)) that aren't wrapped/packaged with plastic. >>127657074
Weed does a lot of bad things other than what you suggest m8.
>Pic related

>>127670797
/poo/

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>>127670401
Drink it directly from the source, don't cuck yourself to cups or glasses.

>>127658517
low T coz no one lifts

>>127670962
Those are nasty tits

>>127671108
>Those are nasty tits
JUST rude !

>>127656328
If you faggots exercised every other day even lightly with some intense workouts at least 2x a week this wouldn't even be a question. If your body is naturally producing testosterone you won't have to worry about having some weak womens hormones floating around because a water bottle was left in the sun or some faggot friend wanted to eat vegan food.
Do calisthenics religiously. Train your body. Be a man and challenge yourselves. Give yourself 2 years to get in shape and it'll start to happen.

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>>127657558
t. Retard

Everyone in my friend group who lifts drinks a shitload of whole milk. We all have broad shoulders, thin waist, masculine features, no bitch tits or feminine proportions or features or anything like that. I can see milk being bad for you if you don't consistently exercise because it's essentially just a shitload of extra carbs you don't need but I am seriously unconvinced it feminizes you.

>>127671339
Are those your boobs? You know you can easily get them to sag less by microneeding and losing weight.
I'm skinny and mine stick like straight out. Cone boobs but not saggy

>>127663022
You are just fat

>>127658430
You're a fucking retard.
Fat promotes estrogen.
There is literally no way to know if he has bitch tits for real unless he loses the belly fat.
In almost every case where someone thought they had gyno, they were just fat.
Gyno is extremely rare.

Your doctor will tell you to stop being fat first, drop below 14% do some chest exercises, work your shoulders and back, the excess skin will go away.

If you abs and still have breast get back with us.

>>127659029
>tap water
Enjoy your fluoride and estrogen from birth control lmao

>rain water
enjoy your legionnaires disease lmao

>stream water
enjoy your giardia, pesticides and herbicides lmao

>>127673664
What if shes already lost 130lbs and is down to 130? What else?

>>127662738
Same. Try ordering a compression undershirt from amazon. With it you can wear good-fitting shirts and no one will know about yer tits.

>>127656328
And I've thought about this question and here's what I've realized: it's literally because people are just more fat and lazy than they used to be. Exercise and weight lifting alone will give you a greater testosterone boost that will outweigh any possible negative effects from excess estrogen in your diet. If you're a cave dwelling fatty who takes less than 1,000 steps a day, your bitch tits aren't from drinking milk and showering, it's because you're a fat fuck who doesn't move.

>>127656328

beer is full of it

>>127662941
>the local water store?
>the local water store
>>the local water store

its fucked anon.

the whole world is completely fucked.

and we're just in it.

>>127663022
You have to be fucking fat to have gyno like that.

Don't kid yourself. You're fat. Now get your ass to the gym

For about a year I was all about beer

I fell for the 'german master race drinks beer' nectar of the gods meme

After I year I had a nice big gut and bitch tits. It was tough, but I had to admit it was the beer

I have switched from beer to wine and, in the last few months my physique has returned to normal

>>127657574
These photos were taken 11 months after Bill Hicks allegedly "died of pancreatic cancer".

>>127659657
doesn't atrazine reduce estrogen? that's what it does in frogs, so would it work on humans?

>>127659874
Also, functional alcoholism of the kind many anons practice (drink every night while computing) leads to hypogonadism

The water is turning the frogs gay.

What the fuck do you think it does to men?

>>127658517
That's disgusting just pure fat

>>127659975
I drink as much as this guy and im big as fuck from it, I lift alot too and do a bunch of biking

>>127659494
>All that stuff that you enjoy? Don't do that anymore.png
>live like a caveman.png
>become a vegan hippy.png

>>127663774
wait are you fucking serious
this really exists in arizona?

>>127659494
I'd like to see the guy who created this list just to judge how manly he is. Surely if he's found the key to max testosterone he should be a god amongst men right, meanwhile all the bodybuilders who drink shitloads of milk and are extremely muscular and masculine must look like women compared to this scientist of test.

>>127675311
All azine compounds bind to estrogen receptors. Pesticides and herbicides are like 95% azine compounds. They're all estrogenic.
But no you won't become a cute girl. They'll just give you cancer. If you want to be a cute girl take estradiol

>>127658503
>army test
>not biased

>>127676422
it's a desert

>>127659494
>>127668031
>>127676136
>>127676505
This list is retarded. All the shit on it basically entails living alone in the woods. There are plenty of men who stand up for what they think and don't exhibit femininity. Engage in competition, face adversity, think for yourself. Work out. That's all you fucking need

>>127656328

It sneaks in on underpaid workers and automation.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-105466/Fertility-timebomb-drinking-water.html

The fertility of a generation of men is being put at risk because a hormone found in the Pill is getting into drinking water, scientists fear.

Pollution due to the chemical, a powerful form of oestrogen, is causing up to half the male fish in our lowland rivers to change sex, research shows.

Experts believe the hormone could be getting into drinking water and affecting men's sperm counts. They say sewage treatment does not remove the chemical entirely from drinking supplies, although the water industry insists there is no evidence of a risk to health.

A study to be published by the Environment Agency later this month says entire fish stocks in some stretches of water are irreversibly affected. Scientists believe the synthetic oestrogen can feminise-fish at levels as low as one part per billion.

>>127660433

Kek

>>127657074
this

>>127657858
your son is smoking that dank 24/7

>>127656328
lack of exercise and physicality

>>127656328
lack of squats

It is true marijuana makes you effeminate. Just pay attention to your wrists next time you get blitzed.

>>127658486
How do you get your kids to grow to their tallest possible potential then?

>>127674098
let me guess you drink piss

>>127663889
You're not using metal shit, right ?
You're using wood shit, right ?
You're aware teflon is just some shit sprayed on the surface and less than half-a-millimetre thick that's easy to rip with metallic ustensils, aye ?

>>127681455
Teflon is inert. If you could digest that shit you better call a doctor cause that is revolutionary science right there. It's 1000+ carbon chains packed with tightly bonded fluorine atoms. If your digestive system breaks it down you've got a Nobel prize

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>lol it's not my poor life choices, unhealthy eating and lack of exercise that made me a feminine looking fat manbaby. it was obviously all the JEWS fault for putting SYNTHETIC ESTROGENS in my water/plastic/food/air etc..

>>127681849
why did you quote my post family

>>127681729
What the fuck does that have to do with me post you wanker ?
The only way to destroy a teflon pan or casserole is to fucking scratch it like some mongoloid retard with metallic shit.

No seriously, i catched the wife using a fucking knife to stir once, got to literally fuck some sense into her right there right then.

>>127657858
Fluoride doesn't give you titties. It just makes you a passive retard.

>>127682085
>fluoride don't make you a woman, it makes you a woman
???

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>>127656328
Check out World Peace's skit on tap water. I'm surprised it made it to air.

>>127663579
ty for the info

>>127656328
>bro science, the thread

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>>127659611

>>127656328
Hops in beer and cattle, cattle get estrogen to help produce milk, bit that hardly gets broken down in nature, so the estrogen leaks in the groundwater where it gets processed to be tapwater

>>127681849
A fit person can develop breasts if he ingests enough estrogen

>>127667647
Not him, but potassium chloride also keeps you alive.

You are inadvertently wrong.

Med fag here.

You could also overdose on water on die. Same concept.

>>127656328
Is that Tim Heidecker?

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>>127668674

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>>127656328
Soy. They add it to everything.

>>127656328
Stop blaming hormones for your own body, you are lazy and gluttonous, how would your body look like except that of a weak beta male?

>>127681849
I know right, pathetic losers
Everyone who is not 15 percent bodyfat or lower should be banned from this board

>>127664103
you can just mix oats with peanut butter and banana. kiss cereal goodbye though

>>127658517
fat and disgusting

>>127668674
Looks like I'm good

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>>127685382
>>127668674
forgot pic

>>127656328
soy laced currency

Birth control in the water supply.

>>127681849
men don't have fat distributed like the guy from the OP unless there is some sort of hormonal fuckery going on.

>>127674098
Please give us a general or full overview of how to avoid them, I know at Least I'll follow it.

>>127656328
Fatty foods and lethargic lifestyle.

>>127658517
fat nigger
you like fat niggers

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>>127668674
What do one win?

>>127656328
It's caused by everything that I personally dislike and counteracted by everything that I personally like.
>every post in this thread

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>>127659611

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>>127685710
>look...its a gay frog

>>127670401
this
human titty milk is the patrician's choice

>>127656328

It's your own fat you fucking idiot

>>127657558

Bog standard 2% milk has nanograms of estrogen per liter. A completely physiologically irrelevant amount. Now, if you're having double cream every day, then you could get some meaningful intake, but you also have lots of other problems if that is the case.

>>127673664
post man titties

>>127681849
They do put synthetic estrogen in food and water. Thats why when i was in 6th grade almost all the girls had massive tits. Thats also why this generation is so fucking degenerate. Its a pedophiles playground. Why cant you accept how fucked reality is. Theres demons treating humans like fucking cattle. Fucking with our genetics and hormones and

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http://www.alternet.org/personal-health/toxic-traps-when-these-7-types-plastic-are-dangerous

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/plastic-not-fantastic-with-bisphenol-a/

These are understatements, and if these are known to be dangerous why are they still used? because it is intentional you worthless goy!!!!

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>>127668674
>tfw only 75%
pretty much a woman desu

>>127675002
why the fuck do you even drink?
Both beer and wine tastes like piss and costs more than simple tasty juice.

>>127686336

BPA is only really a problem when the container is heated up or reused repeatedly. So get a real water bottle and don't heat up shit that you don't know is pure polymer and you're fine.

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>>127686507
>117% person
wew

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>>127682150
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQIyYN0ZsSs
Can't have people getting riled up on testosterone and killing politicians, i fuckin hate that shit.

>>127686622
How about no poison at all???

>>127686622
water bottles are often left out in the sun or heated up during transit

>>127687073

Everything is poison at the right concentration. If you use ingredients or tools incorrectly, you get bad food, it's just common sense.

>>127687254

Temperature cooking

>>127687255
Yes, the dose makes the poison, but it's still best to minimize exposure when possible.

>>127686336
>>127686622
Plastic is bad and so is BPA
What about aluminium bottles to carry water tho?

>>127658954
I ordered some iodine and started havin 2 drops a day.

Really does make u feel great.

>>127687375
i don't really like the metallic taste from aluminium, so i just use glass.