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/nsg/ 卐 - National Socialism General

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ϟϟ HAIL VICTORY! ϟϟ

Thread for discussion of the Jewish Question, Race Realism, National Socialism, Anti-Communism, Fascism, Traditionalism, White Nationalism, and European Identity Movements. Share links, PDFs, reading, videos, and propaganda.
> 卐 - SMASH THE LEFT!
> 卐 - COUNTER DEGENERACY!
> 卐 - EXPOSE ZOG!

ϟϟ /NSG/ HAS ITS OWN SERIES NOW ϟϟ
https://youtu.be/xxnOKOSe4zE?list=PL8YiYG8PC_lcM7nBHssoWFih0SbY_lk3y

卐 IF YOU DO NOT SEE A GENERAL IN THE CATALOG PLEASE COPY FROM THE PASTEBIN AND CREATE ONE! - HELP SPREAD THE LOVE! 卐
卐 PASTEBIN - http://pastebin.com/vPZPyDhK 卐

ϟϟ Study the enemy, co-opt the memes of production ϟϟ
https://4thvoiceblog.wordpress.com/2015/01/24/what-is-detournement/
http://www.dummymag.com/features/adam-harper-vaporwave
http://www.historyisaweapon.org/defcon1/bernprop.html

ϟϟ ORIGINAL National Socialist speeches and essays (archives): ϟϟ
http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/pre1933.htm
http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/ww2era.htm#Material

ϟϟ 3rd Reich image archives ϟϟ
https://mega.nz/#F!a8sT2BCQ!8StGXgUOPzelOf1zC0NZ7w

卐 - POLITICAL POSITION STATEMENTS
https://www.nordfront.se/our-path-2
https://natall.com/about/what-we-believe/
http://northwestfront.org/about/

卐 - NEWS, RADIO, COMMENTARY & FORUMS
>Nordic Frontier - Nordfront's Podcast **RECOMMENDED**
https://www.spreaker.com/show/nordic-frontier
https://thepurityspiral.com/
http://theoccidentalobserver.net/
http://infostormer.com/
http://ironmarch.org/
http://vnnforum.com/

卐 - VIRAL MEDIA
http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/6695011/28ec7b05/met_open_poorten.html
http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/
http://youtu.be/fx8bunSUSAk
http://youtu.be/sn4mVDtqi7g
http://youtu.be/kzIRG525l6s
http://youtu.be/8ymEKiY1UR8
http://youtu.be/RmtuCzKy83U
http://youtu.be/V7AcFCVTsiA
http://youtu.be/sle1E9QgHNE
http://youtu.be/IDvWyBOTVNc
http://youtu.be/iEeSPc5oTcM

卐 - PHYSICAL MEDIA
http://imgur.com/a/1TOfI
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卐 - WHITE GENOCIDE & JEWISH INFLUENCE
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>RABBI Yosef Tzvi Ben Porat explains why Hitler hated Jews.
https://youtu.be/33zAu3IDW6w
>Endgame - White Genocide
http://youtu.be/uMfk5UeGw4E
>THE JEWISH QUESTION
https://youtu.be/v1jtKNs5q2o
>The Jewish-Bolshevik Decimation of the Russian People
http://youtu.be/DC8GLciF-5s
>Jewish financiers and the Russian Revolution
http://youtu.be/Qa-dInQEa-4
>Putin confirms, 85% Jews behind Bolshevism
http://youtu.be/j6p1zxKnDeM
>The Talmudic basis of Jewish supremacy
http://youtu.be/CEAmtWd6aD0
>Miscegenation illegal in (((Our Greatest Ally)))
http://youtu.be/5NdQXOPARWI
>Jews pushing immigration for white nations
http://youtu.be/XpnYpQaHAuc
>Barbara Lerner Spectre
http://youtu.be/oZ1BRHBErH8
>Jewish Supremacism
http://youtu.be/w1SmKle95MU
>Noel Ignatiev
http://youtu.be/BOyBO-ts20c
>Mainstreaming white genocide
http://youtu.be/RC-Cqkq6zWc
>Sarkozy on forced misecegenation
http://youtu.be/I8yaiN6ew_g
>Ben Freedman on World Zionist wars
http://youtu.be/x8OmxI2AYV8
>Alon Ziv promoting interracial couples
http://youtu.be/8RWP8Pws9mw
>Alon Ziv defending Jews refusing to breed outside their race
http://archive.is/1Mzb9
>The Frankfurt School of Cultural Marxism
http://youtu.be/QY82qNWMaaE
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卐 - Jews in High Places
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>200 Years together by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
ϟϟ FULLY TRANSLATED BY 8pol THANKS! ϟϟ
http://docdro.id/6moUHcp
>Germany Must Perish by Kaufman
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/File:Germany_Must_Perish.pdf
>The Jewish Century by Yuri Slezkine
https://www.docdroid.net/kXW5Tab/yuri-slezkine-the-jewish-centurybookzzorg.pdf.html
>You Gentiles by Maurice Samuels
https://archive.org/details/YouGentiles_414
>Steinlight: 'The Jewish Stake in America's Changing Democracy'
http://cis.org/articles/2001/back1301.html
https://archive.is/2najE
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https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-hollywood/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-big-media/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-senate/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-economy/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-congress/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-goldman-sachs/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-ivy-league/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-news-part-1/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-news-part-2/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-think-tanks/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-supreme-court/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-wall-street-part-1/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-wall-street-part-2/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-state-department/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-treasury-department/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-american-international-group/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-federal-reserve-system-part-1/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-federal-reserve-system-part-2/
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Communism and the Jews
http://volokh.com/2011/10/29/communism-and-the-jews/
Communism was Jewish - Communism is Jewish
http://www.controversyofzion.info/communism_was_jewish.htm
Communism's Death Toll, and the Jewish Role in Bolshevism
https://youtube.com/watch?v=km6u4L1JsmY
A Jew in Mao's China
http://blogs.forward.com/the-arty-semite/159051/a-jew-in-maos-china/
Jews and Marxism - Socialism - Communism
http://www.come-and-hear.com/dilling/chapt11.html
The Jewish Bolshevik Commies
http://trutube.tv/video/1013/The-Jewish-Bolshevik-Commies
The Jewish Century by Yuri Slezkine
http://books.google.com/books?id=9QNuiuhPzzIC&pg=PA175#v=onepage&q&f=false
Jewish Communists
http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-communists.html
Jewish Founders of International Communism for the One World Order
http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-communists-founders.html
Jewish Pre-Eminence in the Political Left/Communism
http://www.holywar.org/jewishtr/commun.htm
The Jewish Role in the Bolshevik Revolution and Russia's Early Soviet Regime
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html
Jewish Activists Created Communism
http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/jewishactivistscommunism.html
Jews and Bolshevism
http://www.heretical.com/miscellx/bolshies.html
Jews and Communism
http://iamthewitness.com/doc/Jews.and.Communism.htm
Jewish Bolsheviks
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cf7_1256305898
Jewish Bolshevism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism
Jewish Faces in Chinese Government
http://jewishfaces.com/china.html
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卐 - CHRISTIANITY IN THE THIRD REICH
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>Christianity is the basis of the entire morality of Germany
http://youtu.be/KCwG13K7TAo
>Hitler will never forsake God
http://youtu.be/MV1sVDU9E2E
>Hitler defending Christianity
http://youtu.be/Sz42hBg4jys
>Christianity and religion in Hitler's Germany
http://youtu.be/vat2wprB-0U
>Debunking the anti-Christian myth
http://nobeliefs.com/HitlerSources.htm
>Christianity is not Jewish
http://pastebin.com/9cxmXPCB
>Adolf Hitler and Christianity
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_Christianity
>Debunking the Myths of "Nazi Occultism"
http://web.archive.org/web/20160104235914/http://justice4germans.com/2013/08/07/debunking-the-myths-of-nazi-occultism-national-socialism-was-christian/
>Hitler and Christianity
http://mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/hitler-and-christianity-part-one
http://mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/hitler-and-christianity-part-two
http://mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/hitler-and-christianity-part-three-hitler-grant-stoddard
>Hitler and Christianity - Smoloko
http://smoloko.com/?p=12985
>Was Catholic Hitler "Anti-Christian"?
http://harrington-sites.com/Carrier5.htm
>Positive Christianity in the Third Reich - D. Cajus Fabricius
http://balderexlibris.com/index.php?post/Fabricius-D-Cajus-Positive-Christianity-in-the-third-Reich
>Positive Christianity in the Third Reich
http://christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-1
http://christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-2
http://christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-3
http://christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-4
http://christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-5
http://christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-6
http://christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-7-final
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READ SIEGE!

The time for Revolution is coming!
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Heil!
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卐 - ESOTERICISM (2)
>The Asatru Edda
https://archive.org/details/TheAsatruEddaSacredLoreOfTheNorth

>Sven Longshanks' series on Aryan Esotericism (takes a more Christian-Centric view)
Playlist:
>1 - Aryan Esoterica: Odin, the Runes, Gnosticism and Christ
https://archive.org/download/AE010517/AE%20010517.mp3
>2- Aryan Esoterica: Lucifer, the Black Sun, Angels and the Green Thunderbolt
https://archive.org/download/AE011217/AE%20011217.mp3
>3- Aryan Esoterica: Archetypes, Avatars, Hitler and Sex
https://archive.org/download/AE011917/AE%20011917.mp3
>4 - Aryan Esoterica: Jews, Judeans and Josephites
https://archive.org/download/AE012617/AE%20012617.mp3
>5 - Aryan Esoterica: In The Beginning
https://archive.org/download/AE020217/AE%20020217.mp3

>Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke's books:
>THe Occult Roots of Nazism
https://archive.org/details/TheOccultRootsOfNazism
>Black Sun: Esoteric Nazism and the Politics of Identity
https://archive.org/details/BlackSunAryanCultsEsotericNazismAndThePoliticsOfIdentity2002-NicholasGoodrick-Clarke
>Western Esoteric Traditions
http://projectavalon.net/Nicholas_Goodrick-Clarke_The_Western_Esoteric_Traditions_A_Historical_Introduction_2008.pdf
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>National Socialist
>(((Christian)))
pick one
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>>127634987
Aaaaaaaaaaand he's back.
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卐 - ESOTERICISM
>Miguel Serrano: Hitler, the ultimate avatar
http://aryanism.net/wp-content/uploads/Adolf-Hitler-The-Ultimate-Avatar-Part-One.pdf
http://aryanism.net/wp-content/uploads/Adolf-Hitler-The-Ultimate-Avatar-Part-Two.pdf
>Serrano: Temple of Wotan
https://archive.org/details/SerranoMiguelTempleOfWotanHolyBookOfTheAryanTribes20170324

>Hans Jost: Path of Wotan
https://archive.org/details/PathOfWotanByJost
>David Lane: Creed of Iron
https://archive.org/details/CreedOfIron_501

>Savitri Devi - Gold in the Furnace
http://archive.org/details/GoldInTheFurnace_314
>Savitri Devi - Impeachment of Man
http://archive.org/details/impeachment-of-man-savitri-devi
>Savitri Devi - Defiance
http://archive.org/details/Defiance_63

>Omniphi: Carl Jung, the Collective Unconscious
https://youtu.be/O5hJniVfjWA
>Omniphi: Esoteric Kekism
https://youtu.be/2ZPSnkQWs6o

>The Origin of Himmler's Spirituality: Waralda and the Oera Linda codex
http://fryskednis.blogspot.com/2014/12/himmler-referring-to-wralda.html

>Joseph Atwill's theory of Christianity as Roman in origin
>(not strictly esoteric, but often referenced by neo-pagan esoterics, here for reference)
https://youtu.be/tg_poNVIg2E
>Mythicist positions (for reference)
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2016/05/demolishing-the-historicity-of-jesus-a-history/
http://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/forum/42035/the-parallels-between-jesus-and-horus-
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Oh nice
I'll let mine die out
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>>127634987
>>127635109

it's like groundhog day.

Imagine being so butthurt that you just constantly have to tell everyone how much you hate Christians.
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卐 - BOOKS (1)
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>Oswald Spengler - Prussianism and Socialism
https://archive.is/Kt6UF
>Alfred Rosenberg's Criticism of Spengler
https://archive.org/download/AlfredRosenbergsCriticismOfOswaldSpengler/RosenbergCriticismOfSpengler.pdf
>Karl Marx - A Critique of the German Ideology
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/Marx_The_German_Ideology.pdf
>Martin Heidegger - Ponderings Books II–VI
https://archive.org/details/martin-heidegger-ponderings-iivi-black-notebooks-1931-1938
>Adolf Hitler - Mein Kampf (English)
Ford: http://nationalactionlondon.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/adolf-hitler-mein-kampf-ford-translation.pdf
Stalag: http://endchan.xyz/.media/a18332e643d7cb83515627b693496fc0-applicationpdf
Kindle: http://my.mixtape.moe/ktzprb.azw3
EPUB: http://my.mixtape.moe/uucnjk.epub
>Adolf Hitler - Mein Kampf (Deutsch)
http://archive.org/details/Hitler-Adolf-Mein-Kampf
>Adolf Hitler - The Words of Adolf Hitler
http://archive.org/details/WordsOfHitler_201307
>Adolf Ehrt - Communism in Germany
http://archive.org/details/CommunismInGermany
>Gottfried Feder - The Program Of The NSDAP The National Socialist Workers' Party And Its General Conceptions
http://archive.org/details/GottfriedFeder_TheProgramOfTheNSDAP
>Gottfried Feder - Das Programm der NSDAP (Deutsch)
http://archive.org/details/Feder-Gottfried-Das-Programm-der-NSDAP
>Gottfried Feder - Manifesto For The Abolition Of Interest Slavery
http://archive.org/details/GottfriedFederManifestoForTheAbolitionOfInterestSlavery1919
>Gottfried Feder The German State On A National And Socialist Foundation
http://archive.org/details/GottfriedFederTheGermanStateOnANationalAndSocialistFoundation
>James Mason - 'Siege'
http://laraj.ca/AGwiki/uploads/Fascism/America/James%20Mason%20-%20Siege.pdf
>ORIGINAL National Socialist speeches and essays (archives)
http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/pre1933.htm
http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/ww2era.htm#Material
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卐 - BOOKS (2)
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>Politically Incorrect Books Archive:
http://mega.nz/#F!B4dB2SzQ!h_pMC30v2a_y31iD0dy0sg

>The New Order - Collateral Reading
http://pastebin.com/za2P7xX9
>Tomislav Sunic - Art in the Third Reich: 1933-1945
http://archive.org/details/ArtInTheThirdReich19331945
>A. James Gregor - Mussolini's Intellectuals
http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/s7870.html
>The Triumph of Reason - The Thinking Man's Adolf Hitler by Michael Walsh
http://archive.org/details/TheTriumphOfReason-TheThinkingMansAdolfHitler
>Arthur Bryant - Unfinished Victory (1940)
>Prominent British historian writes a fairly objective prehistory of WWII
http://archive.org/details/ArthurBryantUnfinishedVictory1940V1
>William Joyce – Twilight Over England
>Twilight Over England compared the evils of Jewish-dominated capitalist Britain with the successes of National Socialist Germany.
http://archive.org/details/WilliamJoyceTwilightOverEngland
>Jewish Domination Of Weimar Germany 1919-1932, Eckart-Verlag
http://archive.org/details/JewishDominationOfWeimarGermany1919-1932
>Arthur Pillans Laurie - The Case for Germany: A Study of Modern Germany
>a view of National-Socialist Germany by a Scottish scholar inside Hitler's Third Reich.
http://archive.org/details/TheCaseForGermany
>Percy Stephensen - The Foundations Of Culture In Australia: An Essay Towards National Self-Respect
http://archive.org/details/TheFoundationsOfCultureInAustraliaAnEssayTowardsNationalSelf-respect
>Leon Degrelle - Campaign in Russia: the Waffen SS on the Eastern Front
http://germanvictims.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Campaign-in-Russia-Leon-Degrelle.pdf
>David Duke - My Awakening: A Path to Racial Understanding
http://archive.org/details/MyAwakeningAPathToRacialUnderstandingByDavidDuke
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We should secretly hop to my bread to confuse the shills

>>127634383
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Bamp!
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卐 - BOOKS (3)
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>The Works of David Irving
http://pastebin.com/FZ0cg8gB
>James Bacque - Other Losses
http://archive.org/details/OtherLosses_201608
>James Bacque - Crimes and Mercies
http://archive.org/details/CrimesAndMerciesByJamesBacque1997
>Savitri Devi - Gold in the Furnace
http://archive.org/details/GoldInTheFurnace_314
>Savitri Devi - Impeachment of Man
http://archive.org/details/impeachment-of-man-savitri-devi
>Savitri Devi - Defiance
http://archive.org/details/Defiance_63
>Maurice Samuels - You Gentiles
http://archive.org/details/YouGentiles_414
>Henry Ford - The International Jew
http://archive.org/details/TheInternationalJewByHenryFord1920
>Wayne MacLeod - The Importance of Race in Civilization
http://archive.org/details/TheImportanceOfRaceInCivilization
>Israel Shahak - Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of 3,000 Years
http://archive.org/details/JewishHistoryJewishReligionTheWeightOf3000Years-I.Shahak
>Matt Koehl - The Revolutionary Nature of National Socialism
http://theneworder.org/national-socialism/idea-movement/the-revolutionary-nature-of-national-socialism/
>Colin Jordan - National Socialism: Vanguard of the Future
http://archive.org/details/NationalSocialismVanguardOfTheFutureSelectedWritingsOfColinJordan
>Kevin MacDonald - Cultural Insurrections: Essays on Western Civilization, Jewish Influence and Anti-Semitism
http://toqonline.com/bookstore/insurrections/
>Kevin MacDonald - The Culture of Critique
http://angelfire.com/rebellion2/goyim/je1.pdf
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Bump
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>>127635932
Its ok, my bread died too :(((((
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Get away from guns!!!! You bastards are worse than Antifa when it comes to my guns!
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Never surrender!
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>>127636402
RAKE
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>>127636148
We'll have to keep an eye out for them thread splitting from now.
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>>127636402
Wot m8?
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>>127636402
>http://www.salon.com/2013/01/11/stop_talking_about_hitler/
Marxists posted this
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guys, what do you think about the identitarian movement?
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>>127636464
GRILL YOU BURGER STAY AWAY FEOM MUH LEE Enfields
>>127636638
No sources?
>>127636650
Archive it.
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>>127636721
Which one?
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>>127636402
Hitler was pro-gun
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>>127636648
Jesus...
Great, now you're going to continually post calling folks shills. Never providing content.
Just like the last bread. You're the one derailing. Now fuck off.
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>>127636721
I think it's good; it's a normie way for pseudo fascists to adopt ethnonationalism; it's gotten exposure by ecelebs before so it could only be good in the long run
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>>127636831
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identitarian_movement

literally the one called the identitarian movement. i've seen a few stickers/posters in my city from these guys, it looks like they're trying to gain some influence.
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>>127636812
Put it in pastebin for ya
>https://pastebin.com/b5weDjn2
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According to a study of 80 US schools, mixed-race children are worse off than single-race children in terms of physical health, school performance and discipline, drug use, and suicide rates (1). And for most variables this was true no matter what combination of races the children were. Another study of biracial Asian Americans found that they are at a heightened risk for psychological disorders like depression and anxiety (2). And the problems with race-mixing don't end with the children. Research shows that interracial marriages are 40% more likely than same-race marriages to end in divorce—even after controlling for differences between single- and multi-race couples in the number of past marriages they have had, whether or not the marriage produces kids, how religious the spouses are, whether or not the spouses come from two-parent homes, and whether or not they cohabited before marriage (3).

Race mixing is bad for couples and it's bad for children. Any reasonable society will discourage it.

1. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448064/pdf/0931865.pdf

2. https://www.ucdavis.edu/news/biracial-asian-americans-and-mental-health?id=8732

3. http://www.census.gov/hhes/socdemo/marriage/data/sipp/interracial-instability.pdf
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Imagine being such a nut sucker that you actually get enjoyment from sitting on your ass sliding threads all day
Liberals are fucking hilarious
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Posting Dutch and Flemish SS songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WijBK7HBmQw
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>>127636990
In dickwad's defense, there's several fronts on identity politics in current media.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blg75MDStY
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZJ_UKBtSHc
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>>127637362
Ah huh why would they lie about that? Anyway well my apologies I'm a libertarian myself I like being left alone with muh guns and booze
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>>127637732
>antifa
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>>127636990
Oh you mean generation identitaire.
Yeah I love this guys they're great.
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>>127637953
That's my point, hatbro. Gun freedom is the exact opposite of their rhetoric, and any way to relate muh ebil nazis (XDDDDDD) to guns they'll pursue.
It's ironic, that (((article)))
It's so specific to their Manifesto, and mine.
>Hitler wanted guns!!!
>Yea, I know, isn't he great!
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>>127637953
We like guns but we don't really believe in substances here; they contribute to the overall decadence of society
Just look at the typical dudeweedbro, I've never met a successful stoner
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http://ose.utsc.utoronto.ca/ose/story.php?id=2135
"Previous research shows people are less likely to feel connected to people outside their own ethnic groups, and we wanted to know why,"
says Gutsell. "What we found is that there is a basic difference in the way peoples' brains react to those from other ethnic backgrounds."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Salter#Diversity_research
"More ethnically homogeneous nations are better able to build public goods, are more democratic, less corrupt, have higher productivity
and less inequality, are more trusting and care more for the disadvantaged, develop social and economic capital faster, have lower crime
rates, are more resistant to external shocks, and are better global citizens, for example by giving more foreign aid. Moreover, they are
less prone to civil war, the greatest source of violent death in the twentieth century."

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0095660
"Our analysis shows that peace does not depend on integrated coexistance, but rather on well defined topographical and political
boundaries separating groups"

http://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2013/study-asks-is-a-better-world-possible/
"Policymakers have attempted to create communities where a diverse group of residents not only live close to one other but also
interact freely - in other words, neighborhoods that are both integrated and socially cohesive."
"The most integrated a neighborhood is, the less socially cohesive it becomes, and vice versa."
"It's not that local leaders and policymakers aren't trying hard enough. Rather, we now think it's because the goals of integration
and cohesion are just not compatible with each other."
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>>127637683
Poast moar pls
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>>127638475
Yeah I can understand that weed itself is not degenerate it's all of its users
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>>127638770
No worries, I've been known to imbibe alcohol and rail a nose beer or three.
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>>127638534
Have you heard of the study 'Oxytocin promotes human ethnocentrism'? The study says that their findings most likely contribute to ethnic conflict.
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>>127638989
Now you are a confirmed shill
Acting all schizo and agressive when the thread splits so that you blend in and subvert from the inside
Classic D&C tactic
Which one are you? Did you tell your friend on your fagcord to falseflag as the (((Agnostic)))?
GTFO shill
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>>127639103
Link me, if you will.
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>>127638989
I just like my rye at the end if the day to justify my existence. I live in a commie shit hole can't wait to move to New Hampshire
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>>127639560
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3029708/
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>>127639490
can you jews shills just gtf in this thread already lol, we're discussing (((Christianity))) ;)~
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>>127637683
Very good song indeed, Houzee!
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>>127639490
Right because they shall would admit to these type of things.
Maybe a closer look at the Weimar Republic might show you exactly why I feel the way I do.
Also
>he parties.... DEGENERATE
>*masturbates alone*
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>>127639920
forgot link
>>127631188
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>>127639490
Hey dickwad, you want your shill?
>>127639920
Boom.
>At least I've contributed.
>If anyone's any sense this will be his only reply
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>>127640193
>dickwad
No one fucking talks like this in /nsg/ you chose smoker
I can smell you from miles away
There were 3 of your dipshits in the thread last time
It's not like some magical fairy dust is going to make you disappear
Fuck off
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>>127640036
OH goddamnit! That's my thread! I let it die for a reason ya dick
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>>127639770
Interesting. It's called a "love drug", yet promotes "hate"? Perhaps this says something about ethnocentrism.

>oxytocin on in-group favoritism were strikingly similar. It thus seems that oxytocin's effects on in-group favoritism are relatively immune to cultural norms, exposure, between-group differences in socio-economic status, and the like.
Sounds like an evolved trait

Thanks anon
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>>127640385
no lol, it's my thread now
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>>127640368
Lol excellent keep arguing with me I'm pretty sure I've already proven in this thread and content contributions exactly where I stand if you have a problem with me in my practices you can fuck off because you should know on the day of the Rope I'll be the one on the front lines because I have nothing to fucking live for so I have nothing to lose.
Tl;dr Fuck your high horse, and hail victory.
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>>127640573
Can you post in /wsg/ for sound?
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>>127640790
Stormriffle is that you?
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>>127640902
I can't be bothered re-editing them to be honest.
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>>127640960
Goddamnit.
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>>127641061
I understand. It's a lot creating, let alone being arsed to re-do.
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>>127641133
Is that a yes?
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>>127641242
That's a no.
Not into namefaggin, tbqhwy desu sempai
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>>127640193
get out of my thread >>127634053 >>127640999
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>be university student home for summer
>discussing Russia with mother
>compare Crimea to Austria in ww2
>mother says "I KNOW Austrians didn't want to be taken over by Germany"

Shit this pisses me off. She watches all those countless ww2 documentaries and thinks that propaganda makes her informed. I actually had to pull up sources from the Internet to get her to admit she 'may' have been wrong.
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>>127641687
Bro...
What're you doing?
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>>127641634
Nah man stormriffle never namefagged here, he's a living meme
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>>127641793
Ah I didn't mean Crimea I meant Ukraine
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Interview with Dennis Wise, the creator of The Greatest Story Never Told:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4JBVW_2f5k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4JBVW_2f5k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4JBVW_2f5k

GET COMFY
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>>127641831
No shit? Last I was on here risk gen was a thing, everyone in /nsg/ seemed to play. Lotsa namefaggin.
Franky I'm unfamiliar with stormriffle.
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>>127641830
sorry :( I was trying to be funny haha?
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Be careful /nsg/
We are being heavily infiltrated and subverted by assblasted shills

This poster >>127640385 and this poster >>127634510 are one in the same
He's either drunk or severely mentally handicapped; probably both based on his "contributions"

Shills GTFO
Fuck off
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>>127642052
Lmao, I see the irony.
If that helps. Everyone's all THEY'RE DIVIDING THE THREADS and then they all choose a different one.
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>>127641922
I heard it last night, I love Kyle and Sinead
the vegainator guy seems decent too.
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>>127642277
I'll let the other thread die, it's a mess anyway.
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I'm Irish, flag is because of Northern Ireland but I'm not English or Ulster-Scot. I've got what I've heard to be Celtic features, blue eyes and dark hair.

Why it be more in keeping with National Socialist doctrine for me to stay and help my own people in this crisis Europe is undergoing or if National Socialism is supposed to be rooted in more Germanic societies should I live in one, or would my celtic genes just corrupt it?

Also do you think that aiming to create a new country of Europeans who believe in National Socialism would be a good idea or would it just be better to take over the existing countries?
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>>127642276
To be clear. Yes that's me.
Will provide screenshots of your dickwad ass responding to me.
You know, with YOUR LACK OF FUCKING CONTENT
>>127636940
>identity politics are gud m8
>>127637578
>>127637702
>>127637715
>>127637732
>>127638302
>>127638475
>>127639490
>>127640368
>posts pics, no comment
>posts generalized opinions
>literally trying to call me a shill
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>>127642758
would it be*
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I want to mention another very difficult matter here before you in all frankness. Among ourselves,
it ought to be spoken of quite openly for once — yet we shall never speak of it in public. Just as
little as we hesitated to do our duty as ordered on June 30th 1934, when we placed comrades who
had failed against the wall and shot them, just as little did we ever speak of it, and we shall never
speak of it. It was a matter of course, of duty for us; thank God, never to speak of it, never to talk
of it. It made everybody shudder. Yet everyone was clear in his mind that he would do it again if
ordered to do so, and if it was necessary.
I am referring now of the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish people. It is one
of those things that’s easy to say: “The Jewish people will be exterminated”, says every Party
comrade. “That’s quite clear, it’s in our programme: the elimination of the Jews; that’s what we’re
doing.” But then they all come along, these 80 million good Germans, and every one of them has
his decent Jew. Of course it’s quite clear that the other Jews are pigs — but this one is one first-class
Jew …
To have gone through this [the extermination of the Jews] and at the same time to have remained
decent, that has made us hard. This is a chapter of glory in our history which has never been
written, and which never shall be written, since we know how hard it would be for us if we still had
the Jews, living among us as secret saboteurs, agitators, and slander-mongers. Among us now, in
every city — during the bombing raids, with the suffering and deprivations of the war. We would
probably already be in the same situation as in 1916 and 1917 if we still had the Jews in the body
of the German people.
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>>127642758
your Celtic genes are just as unique and worth preserving as any other European.
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Did the kikes created AIDS?

Pic related
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>>127642874
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>>127642782
Lack of fucking content?
I was OP of last thread, the one you accused of "derailing the discussion" while you buttfucked (You)s with your (((agnostic))) shill
GTFO, you've already been called out
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The riches they had, we’ve taken away from them. I have given a strict order, which SS Group
Leader Pohl has carried out, that these riches shall be diverted to the Reich, without exception.
We have taken none of it. Individuals who failed were punished according to an order given by me
at the beginning: he who takes even one mark of it, that will be his death. A number of SS men —
not very many — have violated that order, and that will be their death, without mercy. We had the
moral right, we had the duty to our own people, to kill these people who wanted to kill us. But we
don’t have the right to enrich ourselves even with one fur, one watch, one mark, one cigarette, or
anything else. Just because we eradicated a bacillus doesn’t mean we want to be infected by the
bacillus ourselves. I will never permit even one little spot of corruption to arise or become
established here. Wherever it may form, we shall burn it out together.
In general, however, we can say that we have carried out this most difficult task out of love for our
own people. And we have suffered no harm to our inner self, our soul, our character in so doing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a_cmbi3iIg

Refute this
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>>127642874
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>>127643132
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>>127642579
It's a mess because you posted it that way you subversive dipshit
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>>127643095
So you copypasta'd a thread op
>wow, it's fucking nothing
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>>127642874
>>127643132
refute this
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>>127642874
>>127643132
.
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>>127643293
Nah
Not when it's classic tactic of the shill to call OP a shill and was doing so for the passed few days
Gtfo you're not welcome here
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>>127642874
>>127643132 ...
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>>127643132
>>127642874
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>>127643090
>''We had the
moral right, we had the duty to our own people, to kill these people who wanted to kill us.''- Heinrich Himmler
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>>127643132
>>127642874
.....
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>>127643274
I'm not the OP that created it, >>127640385 (proof)
I just saw that it was getting some posts so I copied and pasted some actual content from this thread's OP. calm down
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>>127643584
Today is literally my first day on chinz in months.
Will screenshot history if you're that convinced.
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>>127641922
They're shattering my image of /ourfuhrer/. Feels bad man.
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>>127643709
Even if it was true, maybe it was self defense...
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While I agree that a problem with society is the focus on materialism and money, I think it would be suspicious if the government completely disregarded these factors and told society not to be materialist. I wouldn't have a way of knowing if these same government officials were using the taxes they collected to pursue their own materialist desires.
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(((>>127643095)))
what did you say about agnostics ?!
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>>127643875
i can't find this quote anywhere
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>>127643709
Kinda seems like maybe if they didn't do it, they should have...

>Sarkozy on forced misecegenation
http://youtu.be/I8yaiN6ew_g
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>>127643768
He's confused, atm.
Let him sort it out.
The evidence is all there.
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>>127644034
That explains why you're so bluepilled.
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>>127644714
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.574332 it was behind a paywall
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>>127644993
that's why i gave you fucking archive you mong

https://archive.is/RxARq
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>>127644271
what the fuck is the guy's problem, I've posted in NSG for months and the second someone brought up an obvious issue that should be discussed since the thread was slow anyway (religion) today they lost their mind.
muh varg, fedora insults and screeching started immediately
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If he didn't exterminate the Jews, maybe he should have...
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>>127634719
Churchill's Holocaust, You should be so proud.

/s
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Maybe Himmler was our greatest defender against an existential threat...
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>>127645280
He's either extremely cautious or an agent of paranoia.
The beauty of this site is we will not know nor will ever know this is the chaos in which we thrive.
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>>127645086
i was just saying i never found it on google because of the paywall
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>>127645805
That doesn't make much sense, anon
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>>127645280
Nah buddy
You were obviously D&C shilling the entire time especially since nobody wanted to talk about the subject; it's been well establish that both Christianity and Paganism are BOTH aspects of NatSoc and as soon as the thread regulars split, both you faggots hopped on and continued shilling
(You) constantly replied to people's post spouting off-topic rants about some war and keep posting and reposting the same copypasta
Then you come on here acting like everything's changed and you're a whole new person, but I know and still smell a rat when I see one; you win in the thread 4 days ago doing the exact same shit but got ran off by regulars who have already seen your shenanigans beforehand but most of the regulars aren't ITT right now so you dipshits are running wild
You LARPagans are all the same: Pagans first and NatSoc second and you use every outlet or movement you can to disprove Christianity despite my calls in every nsg for unity and to not fall for D&C tactics
Fucking faggots
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Maybe Himmler was the true prophet, but we didn't listen...
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>>127645618
today's experience was certainly an eye opener, it's likely the same guy telling "hail victory brother" a few days ago on NSG was shitting on me in the last thread like an autistic nutjob. I guess I need to rethink some things.
Take care anon, sorry for getting you involved, I was half joking then they began losing their minds "we're under attack ahhhh" lol
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Anyone who isn't brainwashed can see what Himmler saw...
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>>127646620
>I guess I need to rethink some things.
Are you saying /nsg/ made you think?
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>>127646874
Jesus, bud.
You've given us an op, get off that high horse.
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>>127647277
Didn't like my meme?
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>>127647287
And pictographs.
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>>127646500
the only d&c that happened was seeing how you guys reacted
I needed a break anyway. take care
Meine Ehre heißt Treue even if yours is not
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>>127647277
Lmao
Gfy
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>>127647473
Pictographs?
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Well, that was a fun shitpost rally.
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>>127646018
it's actually in none of those articles, just people in the comments
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so who's or was the leader of the fascist/natsoc party of your country?
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Sup guys
What do you think about the Ha'avara agreement?
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>>127649033
>why are you looking at me like that goy
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>>127649280
Corneliu Zelea Codreanu of the Iron Guard; glad my country was on the right side of history on this one
No idea where any of the fascist movements stand today in Romania however
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>>127649142
>it's actually in none of those articles
It came directly from the 4th and 5th links in the results. Those are the Haaretz article quoted in the original you replied to, as well as the source of the quote in the other links. It should also be an indicator that its a well known quote, since its in every single result on the first page; why you "couldn't find it anywhere" is hard to explain, considering that its literally everywhere. Also, it's not "blocked from Google results because of a pay wall", nor did the Haaretz article have a paywall when I visited it to make this screencap: >>127644714
I'm not saying you're lying, you just seem to be terrible at using Google or doing research. This is stuff little kids in gradeschool do better than you, friend. Something you should work on, research is a critical skillset in life.
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>>127649307
Also, could a NatSoc and a Zionist entity co-exist?
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HAVE YOU TAKEN THE "SS OATH" /nsg/?

>“Wie lautet Dein Eid ?” – “Ich schwöre Dir, Adolf Hitler, als Führer und Kanzler des Deutschen Reiches Treue und Tapferkeit. Wir geloben Dir und den von Dir bestimmten Vorgesetzten Gehorsam bis in den Tod. So wahr mir Gott helfe !”
>“Also glaubst Du an einen Gott ?” – “Ja, ich glaube an einen Herrgott.”
>“Was hältst Du von einem Menschen, der nicht an einen Gott glaubt?” – “Ich halte ihn für überheblich, größenwahnsinnig und dumm; er ist nicht für uns geeignet.

-- Heinrich Himmler: Die Schutzstaffel (SS) als antibolschewistische Kampforganisation

>“What is your oath ?” – “I vow to you, Adolf Hitler, as Führer and chancellor of the German Reich loyalty and bravery. I vow to you and to the leaders that you set for me, absolute allegiance until death. So help me God !”
>“So you believe in a God ?” – “Yes, I believe in a Lord God.”
>“What do you think about a man who does not believe in a God ?” – “I think he is overbearing, megalomaniac and foolish; he is not one of us.”

-- Heinrich Himmler: The Protection Squadron (SS) an anti-Bolshevist Fighting Organization


http://archive.org/stream/DieSchutzstaffelAlsAntibolschewistischeKampforganisation/HimmlerHeinrich-DieSchutzstaffelAlsAntibolschewistischeKampforganisation193717S.#page/n13/mode/2up
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB9oUqIcX-c

Why isn't this video pasted onto the front page of /nsg/? Would save a lot of time for normies who have to sift through the wall of YouTube videos on the OP and is a good primer for conversations in the thread. Just sayin'
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>>127650076
I think Jews forced to stay in a Jewish state, and barred from Europe, North America, Russia, and East Asia sounds fine. I don't believe Jews will ever settle for that.
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>>127650747
Because the original channel it was on got shoah'd along with 80% of our GLR section
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>>127650076
NatSoc is fundamentally centered on Ethnonationalism and I think everyone who fully understands the ideology would not have a problem with any ethnicities existing in their own homogenous societies within their own nations: blacks, asians, whites, etc etc
The problem is when one nation or ethnicity subverts an entire nation through dishonest means such as usury would a nation be justified to rise up against said usurping ethnicity. This is why Hitler believed clearing out the Jews from Germany was necessary: they had no home in his society as Germany was meant to be a home for the Germans.

However, at the end of the day; no one really believes the Jews would settle for just their own ethnostate (Israel) which is largely the reason the nations against them today have largely felt their presence and have forcely expelled them from their lands
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>>127650793
Question is, could there be a full normalization between said entities in theory? By that I mean tourism, trade, mil co-op and so on, but with the acknowledgement of both the national goals of Zionism AND Nazism.
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>>127651134
If you're asking if Nazi Germany and Israel could have coexisted; yes I don't see why not
If you're asking is Zionism and National Socialism is comparable; no, I don't believe they are
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>>127651046
Oh, but I think that the "Jews" would. I use quote marks because today we have this transition from Jewishness into something new, Israelism, a non religious, a true national identity for those you call Jews. This is Zionism in it's core and I thought about it for a long time, I think that it's absolutely compatible with Nazism, or any ethno ideology for that matter. So I'm wondering, why do we really fight?
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>>127651134
Why would jews ever settle?
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>>127651453
are you actually jewish or just from Israel? also, do you believe the holocaust?
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>>127649792
i just couldn't access the article bc it's on a paywall and i'm too lazy to type the archive link. thanks anyway seen it now
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>>127651443
I think that your definition of Zionism is different. Do you think that Zionism can be international? If yes, we are talking about different ideologies.
>>127651483
Because national racial self determination is a virtue which feels amazing, and those Jews who live in Israel prove themselves to be loyal and strong. It's not really the Jews as much as "the new Jews", a nationality and not a nomadic semi ethnicity.
>>127651609
I'm Christian, have 25%~ Jew blood, you know that I legally cannot answer your question with anything but yes.
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>>127651761
sheesh, but how is life there? there are only kikes or there's also arabs and christians?
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>>127651453
The problem is the disproportionate amounts of ethnic "Israelist" Jews as you put them and Zionist Jews. Zionists believe that they are still God's "chosen ones" and believe the goyim to only be resources to be expended like cattle in order to further the strength and reaches of Israel: its clear if you follow the breadcrumbs that these are no friends of the world and have international conquests at heart. They exist in our media, our entertainment, our institutions, our culture, and our leadership and stop at nothing to further the strength of their nation: this would be okay, but they have a "by-all-means-necessary" approach to it all, and unfortunately this means destroying entire cultures and people as a means just to establish their ends
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>>127652071
All three, I live in South Tel Aviv with both Christian and Muslim neighbors. It's a liberal and a degenerate city, but it's not Jewish, so it's pretty much the best place around - life here is comfy more than anything else. Jerusalem is a kike ridden hell on earth and needs to be cleansed.
>>127652072
So yes, we do have different definitions here. What you are talking about is what I call Traditional Talmudic Jewish culture. It's what developed from "my" people when they were a zealot diaspora for several generations, and is disgusting. Zionism as I know it is solely the ideology of self determination in Israel. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, I'm sure there are Talmudic Jews who call themselves Zionists, I just want you to realize what I mean precisely.
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>>127651761
>those Jews who live in Israel prove themselves to be loyal and strong
There are about, what -- 8 million Jews in Israel? There are about 6-8 million in the US. I would guess a similar amount in Europe, perhaps a similar amount in Russia. If they all made aliyah, then Israel would have to expand to encompass most of Syria, Lebanon, parts of Iraq and Egypt. Lets say they did that:they would suddenly be sitting on half the world's oil reserves, and control major transportation routes of natural gas. I imagine those who dream of Eretz Israel dream of it for this reason. Let's say, hypothetically, that a trade was struck: Jews divest all holdings outside of Israel, all banks, etc, in exchange for Eretz Israel. Not that they would ever agree to such a trade, because they had that choice in the past, and chose to let Jews die to protect their holdings... but let's pretend: once they controlled the middle east, no one should ever believe that they would permit Arab nations to remain, or do anything but use their monopoly on resources to retake those western countries they divested from.

Jews believe that Goyim have no "neshama" (breath, soul), goyim have "nefesh" (animation) , just like all other living beings. Jews have both. So who in their right mind would even entertain the idea, knowing that Jews don't believe the goyim have an immortal soul?

https://youtu.be/CEAmtWd6aD0
https://youtu.be/CEAmtWd6aD0
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>>127652610
would you preffer to live in Madagascar? I think the Canadian NatSocs had plans of moving them here, since Jerusalem is the holy land of Christianity
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>>127640496
No problem. I would also recommend reading the Metapedia pages on race mixing and ethnic nepotism. Just be careful, as Metapedia is rather biased and misrepresents some of their sources.
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>>127652737
I don't see why the diaspora jews have a right to be a part of Israel after all this time. They are traitors to me as much as they are to the west. But let's say that they do and we do need to expend to assure survival and prosperity - did Germany not need Lebensraum? I fail to see the problem, unless the Arab nations are good allies of the white peoples.
>Jews believe that Goyim have no "neshama" (breath, soul), goyim have "nefesh" (animation)
You are talking about religion, which again, I do not concern myself with. Judaism is wrong and is ought to be exterminated as far as I see.
>>127652906
I'd rather live in the west kek, but we'd do fine anywhere imo. This place is already ours and I was born here, so I can't help but to feel a national sentiment for even the soil itself.
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>>127652610
I won't claim to be an expert and say I know the indepth interworkings and differences of either Zionist Jews as you put them and Talmudic Jews (the "Zionist" as you claim I understand them)
But I can say that I know my own ideology well and so I will reiterate my point: as long as Jews stay in their own ethnic homelands and don't mess with another nation's culture/demographics/politics, they are welcome to their own ethnocentric nation just like as any other ethnicity would be
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>>127652737
>or do anything but use their monopoly on resources to retake those western countries they divested from.
Right, missed that part. In the theoretical situation that I have suggested, Nazi Germany would have made sure, publicly, that we would not do that. Furthermore if the Nazi entity would have survived, the Jewish crimes throughout history would have been public knowledge.
>>127653686
That's what I thought. So really, there is no contradiction between Zionism and NatSoc.
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>tfw there's an inmigrant report in the news of my country
HELP
WHAT HAVE WE DONE TO DESERVE THIS
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>>127651453
If every Jew left our countries and went to Israel instead of trying to destroy our race through usury and mass immigration, I wouldn't care about you guys. I'd leave you alone
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>>127653983
I think that the Jews who are today in your nations deserve death more than anything else, including our lobbyists, but that's maybe because I'm tipsy.
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How do we save the west?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdFzMLZAXEM
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>>127653349
>I don't see why the diaspora jews have a right to be a part of Israel after all this time.
Then you want us to liquidate them, you'd support this? You are also responsible for their duplicity, because it was the diaspora that funded your existence, continues to send billions to prop you up, and you did nothing but applaud and welcome that parasitic relationship your diaspora bretheren established. I don't believe you when you disparage them, because they're the hand that feeds you.
>Germany not need Lebensraum?
In a vacuum, under ideal and fair conditions, Eretz Israel sounds acceptable even to me, but I would have to believe that Jews were dealing in good faith, with honor and respect for shared values. I KNOW FOR A FACT that Jews believe they can cheat non-jews, because the goyim are literally "beasts with no humanity". It's like when you realize that taquiyya not only permits Muslims to lie to kaffir, it permits them to lie to each other -- you cant ever trust a Muslim ever again after that realization is made, and that's obviously the point: to prevent Muslims from ever turning from the path of world conquest. All these semitic religions are racially supremacist, hegemonic, and set up these principles as matters of religious dogma. I know jews believe it is their GOD GIVEN RIGHT to rule the world, by any means necessary, so I cannot believe in deals with them as equals.
>there is no contradiction between Zionism and NatSoc.
Except that you believe in a double standard, of living as parasites on other peoples while you enjoy your own ethno-state ideal, and natsoc is anti-parasitic. You are usurers, and natsoc is anti-usury.
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>>127654120
From what I've seen on /pol/, it seems like you Jews that live in Israel tend to be okay people. You're right, it's mostly just the Jews in other nations that are awful people
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>>127653868
Then just to confirm
A hypothetical
Say we were both in Nazi Germany circa.. say 1939
Hitler is expelling the Jews into camps, not for extermination, but for relocation: ship them to Madagascar and restablish their own ethnic homeland. Deiregarding Jewish historical ties to Israel and that region; would you side with the Nazis in doing so? Expelling the Jews to their own ethnic homelands?
Or would you help the Allies defeat the movement in order to establish their own version of a Reich, only globally?
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/nsg/ will never die.
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>>127654408
I too have also met more than a handful of reasonable "Jews" that were from Israel itself
That does not mean my shield is still not 100% drawn, but if we are to abide by our own ideologies, it is best to at least allow them their own homeland so that we can see what their true culture and society can develop on its own accord
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>>127654408
>>127654876
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>>127654337
>Then you want us to liquidate them, you'd support this?
Yes, it's time to grow up and support ourselves anyway. Any nationalist would say the same - Death is better than handouts from traitors.
>I KNOW FOR A FACT that Jews believe they can cheat non-jews
Yes, and you are right to an extent, but this is religious doctrine, you have to understand, and I wish to separate the Israeli people and the Jewish religion ABSOLUTELY. There will be no talk of Goyim, we are equal to our allies and they are our friends, not our tools or swords. Believe me or not when I say it, but the average Israeli wants survival, not domination. This is why I have hope, otherwise I'd be right here with you talking about gassing kikes. And I do to some extent as you can see.
>living as parasites on other peoples while you enjoy your own ethno-state ideal
I really do not believe that, what made you think that I did? Honest question.
>>127654455
If I'd be in Germany in 1939 I'd be trying my hardest to be a good citizen of the Reich, I'm no traitor. What my leader decides I should do is really none of my concern unless I am a part of the management. Honest answer, thought about it a lot.
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>>127654408
>Not all jews
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>>127655127
Zionism, by definition IS acknowledging the Jewish State of Israel. You cannot separate the Jewish faith from Israel.
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>>127655127
>I really do not believe that, what made you think that I did? Honest question.
pic related, as to the rest of your post...
>I wish to separate the Israeli people and the Jewish religion ABSOLUTELY. There will be no talk of Goyim
...if you are being honest.... I hope you don't look ethnically Jewish, and can pass as a goyim in another country, because your ideas aren't going to make you very popular where you live.
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I have a question for all you National Socialists, why did Hitler have to invade Poland and France? I get why he had to take back the Rhineland but was it necessary to invade France and Poland?
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>>127654976 #
Cmon anon
Maybe I'm still on edge and confused from the shitshow earlier in the thread
I really meant no harm in it: if ethnic Israelis can exist without subverting other nations, they have a right to exist as their own people just as any other ethnicity does
I will have to say though that every single one of (((them))) that I've met in the US have turned out to be rats. I've never actually met an Israeli before; my only experience with them has been on /pol/
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>>127655613
As someone who was born here, you are wrong in my opinion. The original basis to our inception is not necessarily the continuation of our culture.
>>127655753
>pic related
Come on, please have at least the courtesy to address me as an individual with opinions and not a monolith. I do not work for AIPAC and am against dual citizenship anywhere in the world.
>I hope you don't look ethnically Jewish, and can pass as a goyim in another country, because your ideas aren't going to make you very popular where you live.
Kek, thanks, me too because I also have little hope. But I still do. This place can be fixed and the Jews of the past can be destroyed. Rebirth is a better bet than death or than life as a parasite.
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>>127656082
>please have at least the courtesy to address me as an individual with opinions and not a monolith
Please have the courtesy not to shift the subject from "the state of Israels relationship to the diaspora in terms of funding and support" to" blah blah but I'm an individual". That's fucking asinine. I addressed you as an individual when you commented on your own opinions, I addressed your question about the diaspora separately. Don't play games.
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>>127655914
>Ben Freedman on World Zionist wars
http://youtu.be/x8OmxI2AYV8
>Hitler's War - the Allies caused the war
http://youtu.be/MejbBsSAP8I

www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/History/polandbetrayal.htm
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>>127656301
Oh ok, you meant that my country believes that it can exploit it's Jewish connections in the diaspora for financial and political gain? If so I agree with you. But I still disagree that it is a authentic part of the ideology of Zionism, it is simply corruption and should be cut down. AIPAC specifically is also a matter of corruption as far as I can see.
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>>127655914
"Poland" at the time was actually Polish occupied Germany that was still full of German people and was being invaded by Polish squatters that committed crimes against the German people such as violence, abuse, rape, discrimination, plundering, and so on. Hitler called many times upon the Polish government to cease but none of his calls for peace were heard. The only hope for liberation was of course; invasion, to take back land that was once Germany's in order to protect the ethnic German people adequately. The rest, from then: France saw this aggression as a breach to the Treaty of Versailles and days later went off to declare war by launching a small invasion into Germany, obviously prompting German retaliation
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>>127656603
Thanks for that!
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>>127656082
>The original basis to our inception is not necessarily the continuation of our culture.

The original basis of choosing Palestine as the Jewish State was because of the Jewish culture. As Benjamin Netanyahu said, the Jews belong to Israel because the tribes of Judah was once there. The location was chosen because of biblical locations such as Jerusalem.

According to the Jewish faith, Jews will all return back to Israel when the Jewish messiah comes. That sounds to me the continuation of culture.
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>>127656997
Interesting, thanks
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>>127657193
But that's political theater, obviously. Again, you don't have to, and I do not expect you to believe me, but a large portion of Israelis don't care, they see themselves as a nationality first, and not a religious entity. I think that we can grow this portion to the point where Judaism will not be a vital part of Israeli culture at all.
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>Lenin is the greatest man, second only to Hitler, and that the difference between Communism and the Hitler faith is very slight.

What did he mean by this?
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>>127657682
>the JEWISH State of Israel

Do I need to remind you what your people believe what that star symbolizes on your flag?

Do you consider yourself to be atheist?
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>>127658393
He stated earlier in the thread that he considers himself a Christian above all else
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>>127655958
cund im faceam baie, ma gândeam la mai devreme. Atunci am avut o realizar, Știam că trebuia sa fi român. Acum văd cum vorbiți cu iudeul jegos În comparație cu mine și totul are sens. Când ai frați ca românii, nu ai nevoie de (((dușmani))). Sunt mai jenat de oameni ca tine decât de țigani noștri. te rog, să păstreze secretul nostru între noi ;)
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>>127657820
Source

If I had to guess, it's because the Bolsheviks gave a reason for the National Socialist to rise and gain influence.
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>>127657820
Did you not get the answer you were looking for in today's earlier thread?
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>>127658393
Christian.
Jewish is an ethnicity, Judaism is the religion. Why do you think I'm on /pol/? In order to have a healthy Israel, we all have to acknowledge the facts of race and ethnicity, then our people could have self determination without making religious excuses(and that's exactly what they are, excuses - we are not a religious state and Judaism is not enforced herein theocratic manner)
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>>127634053
good morning brothers
heil
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>>127658519
Well I hope he is aware of how Jewish Zionist view Christian Zionists.
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>>127659005
I am. I also except a Christian revival from the Russian diaspora living here. What choice will Israel have then? Do you know how many Russians we have here, and how many others will go along out of sheer contrarianism?
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>>127658845
>Jewish is an ethnicity, Judaism is the religion.

What do you call someone who follows Judaism?
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>>127656666
Nice sixes.
>my country believes
Your country doesn't just believe, it doesn't just know: from before it ever existed, it relied on the power it gained in the diaspora to exist. Why do you think the Rothschilds and the Baruchs and the Warburgs of the world didn't just take Hitler's offer to leave, or leave well enough alone with the Balfour declaration? They didn't just want a humble Jewish homeland. They never wanted that, not ever in the history of Judaism.
> I still disagree that it is a authentic part of the ideology of Zionism, it is simply corruption and should be cut down
Zionism has never been about Jewish independence, or about respect for other races, or live and let live. I get that there are jews in the world with those values, especially in Israel. That's what most people think their leaders want, because those are the values most leaders portray to their people to placate them. We all have to reach a point where we stop giving our leaders, even our own societies, the benefit of the doubt, and re-learn our own histories skeptically, open to the possibility that what we learn will be difficult to bear. Corrupt leaders count on the majority of people being too afraid to do this.

https://youtu.be/XNWF9CeoZdE

https://inconvenienthistory.com/5/2/3209
https://inconvenienthistory.com/6/2/3294#_edn32
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>>127659384
A piece of shit
Seriously though, Jewish. A Jew is a genetic fact, not a matter of belief. If I could erase my Jewishness I'd do it, but all I can do to save myself is not be Jewish.
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>>127659227
Of course there are tons of Russians in Israel. Where do you think the Khazarian empire once resided? The tradition of modern Hasidic "Jews" who wear the black suit, with black hats comes from the Russian tradition. It is not tradition from Judah.
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>>127658600
Dice ma acuzi? Si cine esti tu? Team ranit intrun fel mai devreme? Daca ai fost aici mai devreme, de ce ai IP diferit?
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>>127659565
oops forgot one:
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_weber.html
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>>127659328
I can speak for myself when I say I am a Christian; born and raised belonging to European parents and residing in an ethnohomogenous church
Taking the path to NatSoc was not hard seeing as I was essentially raised fascist my entire life
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>>127659565
>Why do you think the Rothschilds and the Baruchs and the Warburgs of the world didn't just take Hitler's offer to leave, or leave well enough alone with the Balfour declaration?
Greed. And that's why I say they deserve death more than anything. Israelis are the ones who went to this dead desert and built a country, not the ones who funneled us money to take a cut for their mansions.
I'll tell you what. I just hope that we can transition to the culture I am describing, otherwise we'll get killed and rightfully so. I think that we can.
>>127659695
The younger generations of Russians here have almost a Nazi sentiment, from my experience. They will change this country in one way or the other.
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>>127659648
>A Jew is a genetic fact

A Khazarian is a genetic fact*

Fixed that for you
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>>127659328
*related
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>>127660240
Ok, I don't mind. Would rather live in the Balkans anyway kek
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>>127660138
>I just hope that we can transition to the culture I am describing, otherwise we'll get killed and rightfully so. I think that we can.
I used to have that faith. But I'm not Jewish, so it doesn't matter. In this world, as it is, we can't work together or be allies, no matter what we want. We have to fight our separate struggles. If you have honor and good soul, I hope God protects it. I can't take the risk or generalize based on your being a good guy though. Anyone who does is a liability. Maybe by fighting the powers that be in my own land, and you fighting in yours, we achieve a similar goal. But I can't trust you, and you shouldn't trust me.
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>>127660513
Oh yes, I'd never ask you to judge my country based on who I am individually. I'm fairly certain that my opinions are quite radical anyhow, I'm a de facto WN.
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>>127648391
Eh.
I tried to carry on but dickwad was persistent in his muh shills posting.
Read what I posted???
Nooooooo, so much easier to be a whiny cunt.
Fucking hell.
>Glad to see thread is still alive
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Heil Hitler
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>>127660756
Well, since you're here... I've been looking for an English translation of 'The King's Torah' by Yitzhak Shapira. Think you might be able to help?
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>>127660771
>dickwad
There you go using that word again
Why must you use such divisive language in reference to brothers
Have you no shame
Are you legitimately underage?
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>>127659735
:)~ tu vorbești despre acuzare?!
Sunt agnosticu atheistu pagan cu fedora shill care d&c. Stii tu, persoana despre care încă vorbești pentru că ți-ai pierdut mintea acum 1 thread în urmă peste o jumătate gluma (religie)
Eu ofer scuzele mele pentru înjurături mei, :) let's get past this
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>>127661309
No, I do not. As I said I'm as far as you can be from Judaism. But I see that he's talking about the killing of Goyim in the first part of the book, is that why you are interested or some other reason?
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>>127659328
lmao, are you crazy asking that here?!
>>127659962 ;) glumesc
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>>127661657
Well, it became controversial, and a bunch of leftist Israelis protested it, but right wingers support it. Then, someone who reads Hebrew told me that it was kind of conventional rabbinical views on the Torah, and you can find things that sound similar in the Rambam. But this guy wasn't jewish, just a Russian classics scholar, so hebrew isn't his first language. I wanted to find a good English translation to see for myself. idk, my autism is for history, religion, mythology, etc, so it will bother me to know about a controversy but never be able to learn the facts.
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>>127662122
Honestly you should study languages if that's the case. I plan to study Latin, Greek, Arab and German(for starters) just because I trust nobody and want to study history and philosophy.
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>>127661575
Ai putut actiona mai putin ca un shill; scuze da vorbesc adevarul. Am avut deja suficienta stres incercand sa pastrez /nsg/ pa boardul, si shills de la /leftypol/ si pula nu/pol/ nu a ajutat
Daca team acuzat din gresala, I'm pare rau; nu o fost intentia mea
Bine?
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>>127662579
I would be the only WN who reads Hebrew. Might cause problems at the next cross burning. How to explain the books sticking out of my bag?
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>>127634053
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY5uQRQZFnA
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>>127634053
remember the enemies dialectic

shabbos faggots use this rhetoric too
dotr will be the worst for them.
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>>127663080
Know your enemy, how else? Just paint some swastikas on the covers, it should show enough disrespect for the language.
And not the first one - as I said I am a WN. Feels weird.
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>>127663297
Why don't you be like based 8pol anon who translated '200 Years Together' and make a translation?

>200 Years together by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
ϟϟ FULLY TRANSLATED BY 8pol THANKS! ϟϟ
http://docdro.id/6moUHcp
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>>127663511
Because I'm both lazy and busy. But fan fact - I was one of the first ones to open a "translation to Hebrew" thread on 8pol.
Thanks for the link btw
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>>127663511
That I'll Sieg Heil!

O btw guys, I don't want to alarm anyone but we have an Israeli poster spamming the thread. WHy is he here, and should we be worried he's made a nest?
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>>127663702
If you haven't yet, you should read The Jewish Century. It's like the pro-Jewish version of '200 Years together':

>Germany Must Perish by Kaufman
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/File:Germany_Must_Perish.pdf
>The Jewish Century by Yuri Slezkine
https://www.docdroid.net/kXW5Tab/yuri-slezkine-the-jewish-centurybookzzorg.pdf.html
>You Gentiles by Maurice Samuels
https://archive.org/details/YouGentiles_414
>Steinlight: 'The Jewish Stake in America's Changing Democracy'
http://cis.org/articles/2001/back1301.html
https://archive.is/2najE

>>127663916
To answer that question, its best to left-click his ID and read the thread for his posts. Its too hard to explain.
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>>127663916
Stranger thing have happened
This thread has been all sorts of backwards today
I need a break
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>>127663916
I'm just talking about the JQ and stuff, I like you guys. Been posting here on and off for a while.
>>127664030
Thanks
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>>127662852
Cu siguranță nu sunt nevinovat în acest lucru și nu au fost acuzațiile care m-au stresat. Faptul că nimănui nu îi păsa de milioanele de morți din războaiele religioase. (thirty year's war)
Pur și simplu nu am vrut sa permite ca milioane de oameni nevinovați să fie ignorați
Trebuia să declanșez oameni, cred că a funcționat prea bine lol :)
suntem forte bine
Îmi pare rău că ti-am deteriorat threadu :/
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>>127664450
What kind of nigger-speak am I gazing upon?
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>>127664780
looks Romanian
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>>127664329
Why is the word "kike" legal, but not answering if you believe in the holocaust not legal?
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>>127665309
Holocaust denial is illegal, this specific slur was not addressed(as far as I know). I assume that if I call someone a kike on the street he could sue me though.
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>caring about "the white race"

what's it like to have autism?
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>>127634987
Okay I pick National Socialism.
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>>127664450
Nu cred ca a lucrat, mai mult doar a enervat oamenii. Ne pasa de totii oamenii aici in /nsg/; dava ai dorit o discutie, ai fi putut incepe initial mai putin acuzator. Suntem oameni sensibili, putem so noi considerare alte argumente.
Oricum, im pare bine tot e bine, okay? ;)~
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>>127664170
>This thread has been all sorts of backwards today
I've noticed.

>>127664329
I think it's trying to tell me he's christian guys... Uhhh...
Why don't you jews/israelis just stay in israel and be happy and content with yourselves? You don't have to destroy the middle east for us. Spread more redpills. Stop what you've started.
(im obliged to ask how long you've been in israel for)

>>127664450
>Îmi pare rău că ti-am deteriorat threadu
Stay and learn, Odyn.
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>>127665540
>Being triggered by white people proud of their race
What's it like to be a cuck?
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>>127664780
I'll kill you if you call my tongue niggerspeak faggot
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>>127665827
I was born here. But, you're just being rude, I don't think that I'd be answering further questions, mate. You can read the rest of my posts if you want to know my opinion on what Israel should do politically.
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Tfw a bunch of commies in tractor factories beat much Ruhr
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>>127659328
Some yes, some no. There's no real authoritative stance in either way. If you mean historically, then other than Himmler and the knights of the friendly windmill, they generally were. There was a pretty big effort made to align Christian morality with the natsocs' ideals.
https://mk.christogenea.org/references/positive-christianity-third-reich
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>>127665866
no, but seriously.

Why wouldn't it be better for intlligent Whites, Jews, Asians, Indians, Blacks, etc., just work together on creating a better future for everyone?

Why does society have to be organized by race. I, as a white man, identify more with high IQ people than I do biblethumping white retards in Kentucky.

Why, then, should I be a white nationalist?
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>>127663080
>How to explain the books sticking out of my bag?
They're for the book burning later.
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>>127666512
Stop being reasonable on a national socialism thread.
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>>127666132
So sad to know that the Russian tank veterans are still waiting, to this day, for the first reload to finish.
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>>127666512
>Why wouldn't it be better
It would be better if we never got sick, and lived forever, and it was impossible to lie, cheat, steal, kill, be greedy, betray, or lack virtue. Why do you think that your notion of utopia must be something good to seek just because it sounds nice in your imagination?
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>>127666512
Because other races will not be as polite as you, and because you are actively hated and cannot say anything about it, while other races are allowed to preach self preservation.
Society doesn't "have to" be organized by race, it just is tribal and always were. You are the problem if you seek a different order.
You are welcome to be a progressive, but you will be killed by the society you want to build.
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>>127666512
>>127666630
lol white cucks, our Kapo just fucked your shit up: >>127666844


enjoy your cancer
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>>127665750
>bine?!
bineînţeles, furia mea a fost generală, nu personală, mai sunt si eu dramatic lol
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>>127666512
>Why does society have to be organized by race
Read Putnam's "E Pluribus Unum: Diversity and Community in the Twenty-first Century," "The Supremacy of Ethnocentric Cooperation," and the plethora of papers on innate ethnic preference.
> just work together on creating a better future for everyone
Because all it takes is one group to realize that they can come out on top by screwing everyone else.
>Why, then, should I be a white nationalist?
Because the purpose of life is to propagate your genes. Shooting yourself in the foot by preferring a group that is more distant than your own ethnicity, because you feel a sense of solidarity with them over the abstract concepts Europeans created, is the literal definition of a cuck.
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>>127667038
Nu ai fi Roman daca nu hahaha
Suntem oamenii stapaniti ca niste magari lol
Fi bine
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>>127667359
>Because all it takes is one group to realize that they can come out on top by screwing everyone else.
Leftshits can't into game theory
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>>127666844
B-B-Based J-J-Juden???
Wha- What timeline have I stepped into??
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>>127668001
Let it happen
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>>127666844
Dat be some sweeping generalisations there tbqh senpai. Is it really feasible to consider me a problem if I want to hang around people who share my sense of humor, etc regardless of the fact they are a nigger or mudslide?
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>>127668001
At least he's christian.
>>127668164
Were you baptized?
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>>127668222
I never thought I'd say this, but you probably shouldn't doubt a Jew's knowledge about being persecuted as a minority.
>Is it really feasible to consider me a problem if I want to hang around people who share my sense of humor, etc regardless of the fact they are a nigger or mudslide?
Of course not, but when their kids grow up with the same IQ as the race's average (regression to the mean) and rob your house and stab your kids over a cell-phone, you're going to regret your incredible, feel-good myopia.
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>>127668222
It is if you want to built society around this desire. As I said, if you seek a different social order you are the problem, because you will not overcome the tribalism of ethnicity.
You are allowed to have black friends I guess, but when you try and truly mix, SA and Rhodesia happen(and the Black on White crime in America, and the slow race war between Mexicans and Blacks, and indeed the pogroms of the Jews, all happen with a lack of self aware segregation). If you want to transfer society into a mix, you are not only the problem, you are an enemy seeking the destruction of white people, the way I see it.
>>127668249
Yes, thanks to my uncle, God bless him. I'm not as religious as I would have wanted to be though.
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>>127667707
>fi bine
Ești sigur că nu ai vrut să spui "fi băiat cuminte"?! lol , take care frate
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>>127668222
>shifting from society to the individual
Atomized individualism is a state of mind where the agent perpetually denies the context of society in questions about social order and social dynamics. Play around on this website. Adjust the slider to 30%:
http://ncase.me/polygons/

Then watch these videos and apply what you've learned:

https://youtu.be/t_lP13mvE7Q
https://youtu.be/qm9kHsg0TsM
https://youtu.be/cWOr6B27RRk

http://youtu.be/uMfk5UeGw4E
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Also, welcome to /pol/ you're here forever.
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>>127669241
It's nice to know that 90% of the leftists who come here to troll will end up radicalized, isn't it?
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>>127669363
Radicalized or dead. I often wonder how many take Path #1
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>>127669241
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>>127669426
You don't "take" the path of the truth, it catches your eye and you cannot look away. The blind ones will the path #2, but at least they'll assure a productive and fun DOTR.
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>>127669027
Hahaha
Nu man, da si asta da ai mentionat lol
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Seig Heil
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>>127669638
>optional bonus path
lol of course, there is no escaping the animu
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>>127634053
Hitler did nothing wrong!!!!!!

Check out this music vid i made for him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oHLu6HkDHY
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>>127669640
The blind ones? How do in your eyes? One of the major tenants of NatSoc was a restoration of traditional patriarchy and that meant encouraging courtship, marriage, and procreation. I personally believe the chart is disingenuous in that Path 2 can be mixed with all other paths; except of course the Ultra Rare Path; that one is strictly for the most committed whose hearts belong to their nation
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>>127667359
>the purpose of life is to propagate your genes?

I don't understand this meme. Genes don't "want" to be spread, it's just that genes that encode behavior encouraging their spread tend to spread.

Unless the purpose of life is braindead adherence to your most base instincts, I don't see how spreading my genes should be considered important.
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>>127671067
>Hasn't read 'The Selfish Gene' by Dawkins
All genes CAN want to do is spread, anon. That's ALL they do. Genes that don't want to spread, don't exist.
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>>127669978
Unless you chose the other option.
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>>127670843
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>>127670843
Oh boy, you meant the pic, while I thought that we are talking about the paths of either radicalization or death. That's what I meant by my posts, if you'd like to re-read them - that only the blind will not be radicalized, because the truth is almost impossible to simply ignore. (sorry, I'm a bit sleep deprived)
Regarding the pic - how many take path two? I really do hope that a large portion does, because that's our main hope of saving the white races. But I feel that demoralization and the "black pill" are too prevalent in the far right community, because times really are hard and people don't realize that a long tern investment is worth it more than the immediate violence and hatred. I feel that too many take the first and third paths.
But, I have to say, that I am certain(!) that the glove will be picked up and that we will have a new generation of motivated charismatic leaders for the radicalized right wing soon enough.
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>>127671375
It's not that genes are conscious. Genes only encode behaviors. What about genes that no longer exist in nature? Did they just not want to spread hard enough? No, they simply encoded behavior that didn't encourage it's propagation in it's current environment.

I don't see how you could jump to the conclusion that the purpose of life is to spread genes.
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>>127669813
>fi băiat cuminte
I meant it sarcastically in the sense that you should have meant "don't do it again" not the semantics of fi bine.
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>>127671955
Ah haha
Good stuff man
All good :)
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>>127671067
>is braindead adherence to your most base instincts, I don't see how spreading my genes should be considered important.
Its really strange to see anti-natalism, I never understood it. Here, let me put it like this
>don't spread genes
>everybody dies
>nothing matters anymore
or alternatively,
>claim reproducing for reproduction's sake is a naturalistic fallacy
>everyone who isn't a retard ignores you
>you are now outnumbered by people who aren't interested in a philosophical dialogue about the meaning of life
Are we really to the point of deconstructionist, ironic civilization, that even the perpetuation of life requires an arduously argued defense?
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