Climate Change

>>127599724
No one doubts that the climate is changing.

We doubt the liberal's talking points on how to fix it.

They want to charge and tax the fuck out of you and limit how you live.

Meanwhile, in reality, China and India are producing literally 98% of the world's chemicals into the air that leftists are complaining about it.

They are fucking clueless.

>>127599724
lefty here
pol is split hafl and half. most who aren't retards are wise enough to know regulations are necissary as well as nuclear power. theyre a small minority among conservatives though, and their hatred for women voters is ironic since women are far more supporting of climate change being real than men.

>>127599724
Commies correlate with CO2, so I say; Let's kill the commies!

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>>127599724

>>127599859
>durrr
this is retarded and so are you. China and india aren't producing 98% of the worlds Co2 and methane.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions
the list is right fucking here nigger. try doing some research instead of going full obama hur durr 1% of muslims are violent.

>>127599724
There's nothing we can do anymore. We're all fucked. We just need to clonize Mars and gtfo before we get jewed

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>>127599724
wrong chart

The fact that you made this thread while the other one is still alive is evidence that you've found another way to start arguments to slide the board.

The fact it's you're full of shit and then entire argument is bullshit. What's more relevant is how we have to put a stop to these god damned kikes.

>>127599867
>>127600062

Didn't take long for the fidget spinner to show up!

>>127600206
Fidget spinners are a kike-hypnotic devise.

>>127599724
Hey man how come there is no "I don't care" option?

Humans are a cancer to the planet and need to be Fucking culled. The irony in libs wanting to support third world shitholes and their shitty populations while crying about the environment is too rich to be delicious and is just downright disgusting

I am not a leftist but the truth of climate change is lost upon them as well.

We are already pretty much set for climate apocalypse NO MATTER what we do now. Clean energy is a dead end, technological progress is purely cosmetic focused.

There was a speech by some Israeli kike military offier couple of years ago on YouTube basically saying that Israel is simply prepping for worldwide collapse. Can not find video today.

niggers, jews, and mudlimes are taking over and you're arguing about lines on a chart that NEW YORK JEWS would be better able to gamble on

I like to think of global warming as nature's chemotherapy. It's going to kill off some healthy cells along the way, but hopefully there will be enough viable biomass left over to repopulate the Earth once the cancer has been eliminated.

FINNISH FARM CATS ARE BEING RAPED BY RAPEFUGEES AND YOU SHITARDS ARE ARGUING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT WILL BE NICE OUT TOMORROW

AND YOU CALL THIS SCIENCE

>>127599724
>Does /pol/ believe Humans are doing irreversible harm to the atmosphere?
Possibly, but I doubt it is eternally irreversible even if it is irreversible with current technologies and strategies.
>Should something be done to stop it?
Yes
>What?
Continue to invest in research and development of new innovations, technologies, and strategies to clean the air, clean the water, reduce environmental impact, produce more renewable energy and (slowly) move away from non-renewable energy.

I support making efforts to both reduce/reverse our environmental impact. However; I do not believe the "concensus" that immediate action must be taken to avoid catastrophe. I have faith that one day we will invent new innovations and technologies that will solve the "climate change problem" before we feel any major repercussions man made climate change.

>>127599724
The higher solar radiation fuels the human population explosion.
Idiots got it backwards, as usual.

>>127599859
This.

Either we are FUCKED because of China and India, period. OR our technological advances will save us from ourselves without having to take any drastic measures liberals call for.

Because if the climate is so "on the verge of destruction" then no amount of carbon taxing etc will fix it with china/india shitting all over the place.

>>127599724
It's time we weaponized global warming against the Chinese.

>>127600851
this. people pretending they worried about the planet are hypocrites, theyre just worried about themselves.
the planet will survive, makes no difference to it what the temperature is

We need to stop building "renewable energy sources" as the required resources produce more pollution and switch to 90% nuclear and the remainder hydro and geothermal. We can recycle nuclear waste enrich it and use it again

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>>127601269
>solar radiation
Which also is actually the main (or one of) factor of changes in the global climate, and completely outside of our influence.

The whole mumbo jumbo about climate change is idolized pseudo science.

>>127603584
Wait, why would a fucking huge fusion reactor big enough to draw our planet into orbit around it have anything to do with anything?

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>>127603584
>>127601269

>>127603435
I agree with you i think. The way you started your post is a little strange. You say we should stop building renewable energy and then list two forms of renewable energy later on in your solution. Solar and wind energy are memes with the current technology and we should focus more on hydro and geothermal. However, if someone wants to continue to develop better technology to harness wind and solar energy they should go for it. Just don't implement it as a widely used source of energy until the technology improves. If I'm not mistaken one of the bigger issues with solar panels is the amount of rare earth metals required to make them. If someone could develop panels made from materials that were cheap and widely available then it might be worth looking into again. That might be impossible/never happen so we should focus on hydro and geothermal. Especially if we get into research investment provided by the government. All of that money should be going to funding hydro and geothermal. If someone wants to privately fund solar energy development that's great, but governments need to stop investing in meme sources of energy.

>>127599724
>What?
There is only one answer to this question if you are actually serious about fighting climate change. Otherwise you have not done anything to stop it.

Put the carbon back where it came from, underground.

And there is only one way to do this, grow algae in massive farms, and then pump the algae into where oil came from to begin with. Nothing else will solve it at all.

As no one ever suggests this, we can safely conclude that either climate change is either a non-issue (or a severely inflated threat), or that whoever is suggesting that we "fix" it wants to keep the carbon on the surface where it can be continually used as boogeyman as a method of control, or both.

If Climate change were an actual issue, we could solve it in a decade or two with this method, for cheap too.

Have you ever wondered why every graph of 'climate change' graphs start in 1880? Because they cherry pick the coldest time before current warming. At the highest point of the industrial revolution, it was getting colder than before it began.

DAILY REMINDER

* A doubling of preindustrial CO2, absent any feedbacks, would result in a maximum forcing of +1.2C.

* The General Circulation Models, and the IPCC, predict 2-8C of warming because AGW theory assumes a positive H2O feedback. They assume that if CO2 causes a little warming, the atmosphere will hold more water vapor which will lead to a lot of warming.

* The warming predictions cover such a large range because everyone assumes a different average H2O feedback rate.

* Every GCM based on this assumption has failed to model temperatures for the past 17 years. They are all trending too high.

* In the late 1990's the modelers themselves stated that if they missed their predictions for more then a decade that would falsify AGW theory.

* There is no data to suggest a +H2O feedback either now or in Earth's past.

* If there is no +H2O feedback then we literally have nothing to worry about.

* The average climate change believer knows none of this. Politicians, citizens, activists, surprisingly even a lot of scientists are literally ignorant of the theory and the math. In their mind it's simply "CO2 = bad" and "experts say we're warming faster then ever."

>>127604572
Yes I was referring to solar and wind my wording was confusing sorry, yeah I mean if someone spends their own money for solar thats their decsion but the governemnt should stay out

We are definitely fucking up species diversity and habitats, but humans being the sole cause of climate change? How do you quantify humans activities on earths climate?

>>127606668
Excellent post. I was unaware of most of this information until I listened to Stefan Molyneux's interview with Lord Monckton. He did another presentation/interview about climate change with another guest (an actual climate scientist) that was very good as well, but i can't remember the name of the guest off the top of my head.

>>127600062
I like living in a first world. I'll take my chances with muh climate change.

>>127599724
Personally yes. But the rest of /pol/ and the right in general consider climate change a partisan issue, and thus deny it exists.

>>127607003
Funny how being supportive of investmemt in hydro and geothermal energy still gets you labelled as a science denier unless you also believe that the world is ending and the only thing we can do to stop it is immediately stop all use of coal and oil.

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>63 degrees in June
no thanks

>>127599724
>Graps doesn't start from 0
Pathetic

>>127603140

>100million years is the unit at the x axis
>That means less than 0,01 mm is 100 year - 200 years so its impossible to compare it with emissions

Always laughing at this

>>127599724
humans have little to nothing to do with climate change

Probably
But I feel like it is a cuck mark to be on track to meet the paris agreement.

>>127607234
Could you put links to interviews?

The ammount of Co2 is driven by the climate not the other way around

Animals at Chernobyl have already evolved to handle radiation and people think the Earth can't handle temperature change. Ridiculous.

I am in favor of a clean environment when possible and would rather see commitment to nuclear energy than anything else

>>127609347
Why don't you go fuck Motorcycle Girl. You could monetize it ten times over via the online porn industry.

>>127608499
I think that's the point of the graph. I don't think it is meant to compare against the effect of emissions/man made climate change. It is trying to illustrate that both co2 and temperature both vary a lot over time. It also illustrates there is not a direct correlation between co2 levels and average temperature.

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>>127609833
What..

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>>127599724

Neither Co2 nor humans have any effect upon climate.

https://www.iceagenow.info/demolishing-link-co2-climate/

>>127610105
Hoe new4u? Chernobyl Bitch's motorcycle rides are extra-comfy.

>>127608933
I'm phone posting from work. Sorry, m8. Just go to stefan molyneuxs youtube channel and search for climate change. Shouldn't be too hard to find. I try to only take 5 minutes at a time to post then get back to work. If thread is still active in a bit and you/others are still interested and can't find them i will see what i can dig up.

>>127610354
kek

>>127599724
i heard plants crave CO2, it's a conspiracy done by plants

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>>127610542
Nice source

>>127600737
Actually the investment in clean energy is still pretty good, because we wont have any fucking oil anymore in the next 10-20years

>>127612220
t. Saudi

>>127602848
They maybe also care for the animals???
Those are the main victims of global warming

>>127612220
90% of known oil deposits have not even been tapped yet.

Just the easy stuff has been gotten, what's left is oil shales and sands. Basically, fracking is the future.

>>127613015
Fracking is a failure, which is why Warren Buffet bought up the heavy rail so he could store the waste water in the tank cars and move it around until it was technically old enough to dump into the ground.

Never forget about the water.

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>>127613015
>>127612220
Most oil is used for fuel, so to reduce consumption you need more efficient engines (Hybrids for instance) to become more affordable. In regards to electricity the federal government should not play favorites, but it should subsidize some research in all forms of electric generation.

>>127613015
Also, while we're on the topic if schemers like Buffet, lets think about loans. Even the bean counters screwed up (were they perhaps paid to do this?) and fracking in a ponzi scheme where they had to keep expanding the operation just to maintain the loans they had to take out to start in the first place.

It's retarded how ignorant people are, but that's the price of literally paying for the Jew media.

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>>127603584
>>127603819
MUH SUN XDDDD

this theory has been debunked

>>127610482
>>127608933
>>127607234
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiZlBspV2-M

Monkton is a fucking fraud

>>127614342
The sun has been debunked?

Well I guess a stopped clock is right once a day. Ask Mars or Venus, or Neptune for that matter.

>>127613724
>Fracking is a failure
Maybe it was a few years ago; but its back, and better than ever.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/11/investing/opec-oil-u-s-supply/index.html?iid=EL

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-03/leaner-fitter-faster-u-s-shale-oil-2-0-challenges-opec-again

http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/18/investing/opec-oil-prices-us-shale-saudi-arabia/index.html

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/19/news/economy/us-oil-shale-iea/index.html

http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/US-Shale-Is-Immune-To-An-Oil-Price-Crash-In-2017.html

>>127615090
>the jews double down again on the ponzi scheme

k

>>127615064
No the idea that solar irradiance causes current warming has been debunked. this was a debate mostly by Frii Christensen (who is an actual scientist) and Svensmark. But this has long ago been put to bed.

>>127615434
Oh, I see. The Sun has nothing to do with it. It must all be from the molten core of the Earth.

OH WAIT NO IT'S COW FARTS BECAUSE WATER VAPOR IN THE ATMOSPHERE WOULD MEAN JACK SHIT IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE SUN

>>127615736
I have not once claimed the sun does not have an impact on climate.
Of course it does. But so do other factors, such as CO2, the tilt of the earths orbit and the position of the continents.

The current warming, in recent decades is CO2 driven. If the sun was the only driver then global temperature would be steady right now.

Cow farts release methane, not CO2, although methane is an even worse GHG

Stop using dead arguments.

>>127616225
Oh, now it's the tilt of the Earth? Maybe it should stop drinking so much.

We are one asteroid away from getting BTFO, climate change should be the last of our worries.

If we indeed reach a time of harsh weather conditions because of it, a lot of people will die... less CO2... problem solved.

>>127616487
No. Current warming is caused by CO2 rise due to human emissions.

http://www.indiana.edu/~geol105/images/gaia_chapter_4/milankovitch.htm

This is what I mean by the tilt of the earth. This is likely what caused the glacial periods throughout history. However, these changes are too slow to explain current warming.

>>127617252
>too slow to explain
>proven
Are you a Jew or just an ordinary schizophrenic?

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>>127599724
nuke Chyna, then build more nuke plants

But that's too controversial for most people. Therefore we are doomed

>>127617252
Wow you are really stupid. No way human CO2 emissions are causing global warming. No engineer or anyone familiar with science believes this.

>>127599724
OP image is an appeal to authority. Give us an actual argument you sub-human.

>>127616225
No model using CO2 as a driver for climate change has ever been even close to being correct. The relationship is correlation at best. Anyone claiming causeation is making assumtions that have actually been disproven over and over.

>>127617417
???

The milankovitch cycles don't explain CURRENT warming because they take thousands of years to have an impact

>>127617736

http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/8/2/024024

>Quantifying the consensus on anthropogenic global warming in the scientific literature
>cook et al, 2013
>We analyze the evolution of the scientific consensus on anthropogenic global warming (AGW) in the peer-reviewed scientific literature, examining 11944 climate abstracts from 1991–2011 matching the topics 'global climate change' or 'global warming'. We find that 66.4% of abstracts expressed no position on AGW, 32.6% endorsed AGW, 0.7% rejected AGW and 0.3% were uncertain about the cause of global warming. Among abstracts expressing a position on AGW, 97.1% endorsed the consensus position that humans are causing global warming.

But i suppose that peer reviewed, journal published scientists know nothing right?

>>127618600
>quantifying the consensus
top lol

Check out the RAND Corporation's Delphi Method. And yes I am a peer-reviewed published scientists who has had to decline multiple invitations to be a reviewer because it's only the top 1% of the 1% who has a clue.

>>127599724

Honestly, I don't give a fuck when the ONLY options being given to us is

world government,
tyranny- slavery
depopulation
....

>>127618600
You are okay with trusting a "concensus" in which two thirds of scientists asked responded with "no opinion"? I find it funny you posted this without deleting that little part. BTFO by your own source. Nothing personnel, kid.

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>>127618230
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPSIvu0gQ90

models are, generall fairly accurate. the IPCC tend to underestimate warming as they ignore feedback effects

I am not even trying to argue with you. This is a very serious issue, and I am concerned that so many do not trust the science. I encourage you to PLEASE take a very hard look at the Science and data.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52KLGqDSAjo

This is a great series by a scientific journalist with several fully cited and referenced videos. He also does not use the IPCC as a resource. Please watch and see if your opinion changes.

>>127619606
Are you a woman?

>>127600139
>nigger
Wut

>>127600567
>Humans are a cancer to the planet and need to be Fucking culled
EDGY

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>>127599724
Co2 isn't a pollutant bud. the PBL Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency conducted a survey in 2015 that found that only 43 percent of climate scientists believe in man-made climate change.

>>127619754
Yes, how is that relevant?
to show you how serious I am, I have had my tubes tied so I can't have kids because I don't want them to come into a collapsing, 4 degree warmer world. In my lowest times I have inserted algae into my vaginal cavity and sunbathed with my legs open to capture CO2 from the air. This is a dangerous issue. Please at least try to be serious and investigate.

>>127619606
So, your saying that CC is real?

>>127621150
That makes more sense then. Women are categorically more emotional and alarmist, and contribute less to science than men.

I had the unfortunate experience of working for a woman when I first got in to the field. I'm pretty much a beta, so we got along and I was able to adapt to her catty ways. But the clear trend is that they contribute some good ideas here and there but that they're completely irrational and have no ability to mount an argument.

My problem is that there are no actual solutions presented. No one can show the math of how much emission we need to cut, or if it's impossible to ever cut enough, how much time we're buying. It's an extremely nebulous problem with a million interwoven factors, but people are selling a magic solution that's going to make a lot of people very rich without bothering to prove it will even make a dent on the problem. If every single person on the planet disappeared, the climate would still continue to change and probably continue to move in the exact same direction it's moving now. Eventually the Earth will become very unfriendly to human life, as it has been many many times in the past, with or without human help. It's selling highly profitable snake oil instead of actually coming up with things that will work.

>>127622905
We can't even predict whether or not the magnetic poles are on the verge of flipping.

And yet these assholes want you to believe that you have to pay for your co2 crimes. It's unbelievable.

>>127616225
if they trap heat then why doesnt heat get reflected back into space?

>>127624576
Because niggers don't understand quantum physics

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>>127600567
>Humans are a cancer to the planet and need to be Fucking culled

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>>127599724
Yes,and I hope we keep doing it.

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>b-b-but al gore was wrong!!!
false, his predictions are turning out to be true

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>checkmate global warming fags, the global temperature COOLED during 1997

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>b-but IPCC models are inaccurate!!

>>127599724
I've read some articles that say that our climate is in cycles, where it's sometimes hotter and sometimes colder. Now we are in a hotter period. What this means is that not all is caused by pollution.

Yet NOBODY ever says this on the MSM. Why is that? I mean it's obvious why, but shouldn't some people advocate this? Or are all those studies made up bullshit?

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>>127626126
what studies?

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>>127626126
>muh cycles

Do we have submarines/air carriers built for permanent living?

>>127625809
https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2013/05/26/to-the-horror-of-global-warming-alarmists-global-cooling-is-here/#fc3c4f54dcf5

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>>127626566
>Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own

>>127615169
I don't think that you know what a ponzi scheme is.

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>>127626566
>global cooling

>>127625360
>rainbow

global warming is part of the gay agenda

>>127599724
Climate change is an indisputable scientific fact.

>>127627177
have you only now noticed that global warming and the degeneration of society are correlated?

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>>127626272
>>127626387
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_oscillation

Fucking google for more you lazy bums.

>>127627059
Explain the ponzi schemes for the folks at home.

>>127599724
>Should something be done to stop it?
it doesn't matter because no one will do anything

>>127621150
>to show you how serious I am, I have had my tubes tied so I can't have kids because I don't want them to come into a collapsing, 4 degree warmer world. In my lowest times I have inserted algae into my vaginal cavity and sunbathed with my legs open to capture CO2 from the air. This is a dangerous issue. Please at least try to be serious and investigate.

Holy shit this is some 9 dimensional bait posting right here. Top kek.

>>127599859
fpbp

Earth is cooling down since 1998

>>127625360
>The Modern-Era Retrospective analysis for Research and Applications, Version 2 (MERRA-2) provides data beginning in 1980
>MERRA-2 is the first long-term global reanalysis to assimilate space-based observations of aerosols and represent their interactions with other physical processes in the climate system.
>long-term global reanalysis to assimilate space-based observations of aerosols

Nice they were able to somehow include data from 1880 in their satellite based climate model

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>>127599724
Yes, we are changing the atmosphere and that is going to change how much energy gets trapped. Yes, we should address this issue. The kicker is that lefties have offered no working solutions to this issue that don't ultimately involve us getting knocked back to an 18th century standard of living with a bunch of people starving to death.

A big part of the problem is soil degradation, and the beginnings of this predate the industrial revolution. We've fucked up the carbon cycle over a large portion of the planet, and, IMO, the planet could handle our CO2 emissions if this weren't the case. Building healthy soil is carbon sequestration. Do you want to solve this issue in a way that doesn't fuck us over? Start pushing for changes in farming practices. Here are a couple of workable methods:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yPjoh9YJMk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLNikS2kJB0

Note that this would also solve issues, like nitrogen fertilizers leeching into our watersheds and being washed out into the ocean, which fucks all sorts of shit up.

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>>127627172
>>127627661

>>127599724
Since people in first world countries do the most damage I'd say we should stop importing people into first world countries, and start deporting people that have no right to be in our countries.

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>>127627394
except this global warming isn't part of the cycle
see >>127626387

>>127599724
Let based Bill Whittle give you a rundown.

https://youtu.be/v_RuverrEZ4

>>127599867
>regulations are necessary as well as nuclear power
WTF does that have to do with whether "climate change" and (((carbon taxes))) are a scam or not, strawman nigger?

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>>127625360
Faked data.
http://principia-scientific.org/nasa-exposed-in-massive-new-climate-data-fraud/
>>127599724
Nothing to do but wait for innovation. Nobody is going to convince China to stop building 1-2 coal power plants each week anyways. There is a good chance that all this climate hysteria turns out to be the crazy doomsday obsession of our time.

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>>127628234
except China is one of the biggest investors in clean energy
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jan/05/china-invest-renewable-fuel-2020-energy

>>127627258

What an utterly meaningless statement.

>>127599859
western countries use up more energy and produce more greenhouse gasses than china and India combined, you degenerate autist.

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>>127599724
OY VEY GOYIM STOP MAKING THE EARTH GREENER WE ARE DESERT FOLK

>>127628234
>http://principia-scientific.org/nasa-exposed-in-massive-new-climate-data-fraud/
I do not trust this website at all

>they changed the data!
>trust us!

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OY VEY

PAY YOUR CARBON TAXES GOYS

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>>127628597
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_policy_of_China#Coal_2
>>127629124
Here is another case of fraud. But you will dismiss it as well, dont you?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/5/climate-change-whistleblower-alleges-noaa-manipula/

>>127599724
>stop asia from poisoning the atmosphere and oceans
>stop feeding niggers
>reforestation
>nature preservation (parks, wildlife, etc)
>transition into solar or whatever is most viable
>exterminate the Jews

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>>127627879
HEY GUYS LETS PRETEND WE CAN (OR EVEN SHOULD IF WE COULD) ALTER THE GODDAMN PLANET TO SUIT OUR BEACH FRONT PROPERTY

yes man creates CO2... but it's like pissing into an ocean of piss. it accounts for less than 4% of what the earth is releasing on it's OWN annually.

https://web.archive.org/web/20090107122439/http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/1605/archive/gg04rpt/pdf/tbl3.pdf

did you know having ice cap is an anomaly? did you know that the earth has been ice cap free for ~90% of its existence? did you know by definition ice caps only exist during ice ages? did you know we are at the tail end of a CURRENT ice age now? did you know the caps extended as far down as missouri/kentucky just 20,000 years ago and have been receding ever since that peak? did you know the caps are going bye-bye even if every person on the planet disappeared 20,000 years ago?

THE OCEAN'S RELEASE *ALL ON ITS OWN* IS FAR LARGER AND MORE IMPORTANTLY *OUT ACCELERATING* MANS CONTRIBUTION

THE OCEAN IS RELEASING MORE DUE TO WARMER TEMPS (WARMER WATER = IT'S A FAR LESS EFFECTIVE C02 SINK)

IF HUMANS NEVER AROSE CO2 WOULD BE INCREASING AT ALMOST THE EXACT SAME RATE AS IT IS RIGHT NOW

THIS HAPPENS AT THE END OF EVERY ICE AGE

STOP BEING SO FUCKING GULLIBLE AND LAZY

LOOK INTO THINGS FOR YOURSELF AND STOP TAKING WHAT THE MSM, EPA.GOV AND NASA.GOV ETC. TELL YOU AT FACE VALUE, YOU LAZY SHITS. IT IS ABOUT POWER AND CONTROL.

ICE AGES AND PERMANENT ICE *ARE AN ANOMALY*

BY DEFINITION AN "ICE AGE" IS WHEN THE EARTH HAS PERMANENT ICE SHELVES

WE HAD ICE A MILE THINK IN CINCINNATI JUST 20,000 YEARS AGO

THE PLANET IS WARMING AND THE CAPS ARE METLING

THAT MEANS = MORE CO2, SEA RISE AND WEATHER PATTERN CHANGES

WE CAN'T STOP OR ALTER IT, WE WILL ADAPT JUST FINE

STOP BEING SCARED INTO TAX SCHEMES AND GLOBALIST POWER PLAYS YOU DUMBED DOWN ZOMBIES

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>>127628945
OY VEY GOYIM STOP DEHYDRATING YOURSELF WE ARE 70% WATER

This latvian gulbis loving faggot should neck himself. The cherry picked graphs lel

>>127628822
But we can breath our air and don't have days off for smog. Why is this?

>>127599724
It's true, we did have accurate atmospheric sensors in the 18th century.

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>>127629541
Civilization appeared only ~10 thousand years ago, which coincides with the Earth entering a period of stable climate, which we are kicking it out of

>>127630287
Except how much is released doesn't matter, what matters is how much more is released than absorbed
Because of humans, the atmosphere's CO2 is increasing, and has risen past 400PPM

>did you know having ice cap is an anomaly? did you know that the earth has been ice cap free for ~90% of its existence? did you know by definition ice caps only exist during ice ages? did you know we are at the tail end of a CURRENT ice age now? did you know the caps extended as far down as missouri/kentucky just 20,000 years ago and have been receding ever since that peak? did you know the caps are going bye-bye even if every person on the planet disappeared 20,000 years ago?
see the image in>>127626935
humans are also an anomaly, and Earth has been human free for ~99% of its existence
also, solar activity has been decreasing, so ice caps should've become larger

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>>127599859
Regardless. There's no harm in putting money & research into renewable technology. Even if climate change isn't anthropogenic it will offer a more sustainable energy source.

>>127630748
Cos we buy their carbon based products, their smog is caused by industrial production for which we are the demand, we are both at fault.

>>127629855
>http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/5/climate-change-whistleblower-alleges-noaa-manipula/
Why do you spread lies?
https://www.eenews.net/stories/1060049630
http://www.snopes.com/2017/02/08/noaa-scientists-climate-change-data/

>>127629855
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_policy_of_China#Coal_2
>which has been dropping from a peak of 81 percent in 2007

>>127631051
They are becoming larger. Only the western peninsula is melting but others are growing at a larger rate.

The climate is changes but it's due to natural global shifts

>>127629855
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_policy_of_China#Coal_2
lmao scroll down to the next section and you have an entire paragraph BTFOing any argument you were trying to make

>>127631064
We have factories in America that don't produce as near as much pollution. India and China would rather poision their rivers and air then spend a few extra shekels on filters and cleanup.

>>127631051
>Except how much is released doesn't matter
THEN WHY TAX CARBON, SHIT FOR BRAINS

take some of your shekels and go plant some goddamn trees, you kike

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>>127630494
>having more of CO2, a molecule that is essential for life but only makes up something like 0.04% of the atmosphere, is bad because the planet will get slightly warmer
You people are fucking insane to be quite honest

>>127631258
>snopes
mfw

>>127631505
The Arctic is melting 3 times as fast as Antarctica is gaining ice (because of rising sea levels due to the Arctic melting, and because Antarctica isn't gaining heat as fast as the Northern Hemisphere)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaJJtS_WDmI

Earth has a net loss of ice every year

>>127631657
>right wing retards
When did I ever advocate carbon tax? And try reading the entire sentence

>>127631062
Yes but liberals promote wind turbines and solar panels and the like which are ineffective, expensive and cannot meet power demands.

>>127599724
No.
No.

Nothing like a global warming thread to remind everyone that liberalism is a mental illness.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-nsU_DaIZE

>>127631767
Alright, go huff some dry ice vapor if you think more CO2 is good for you
And then spend an hour underwater since water is a molecule that is essential for life

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>>127631807
>no argument, only willful ignorance and ad hominem
mfw

I also linked another source for you if you don't trust snopes

>>127632324
The ocean has much more biodiversity than land, so by your logic flooding the entire world would be great, because the planet becomes greener and more full of life

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>>127632644

You really are a fucking halfwit.

The sad thing is you're probably patting yourself on the back over how clever you are.

>>127631961
They would rather backlash and deny there is a problem with autistic fervor. Jews will spin anything to align with their goals but that does not mean that the world is in bad shape and there is a delicate balance that is being disrupted. Jews don't care about the environment and if they got their way they would be selling clean air like bottled water forever damming the goyim.

>>127631577
True but they lack shekels and have a lack of incentive to clean up, most of us buy their products without complaint and then expect them to clear up when they are just trying to make ends meet. I do agree though, they should do more and I try to shop for products made within my nation.

>>127632866
Isn't* in bad shape

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>George Soros (Hillary's primary financer) instructing Hillary on what policies to carry out as Secretary of State:

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/28972

http://i.imgur.com/Fvpr5dx.png

>Top contributors for Hillary Clinton page:

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/contrib.php?cycle=2016&id=N00000019&type=f

>Soros admits creating the European migrant crisis:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/02/soros-admits-involvement-in-migrant-crisis-national-borders-are-the-obstacle/

>Soros tells Europe to take in 'at least a MILLION' refugees every year:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/616541/European-Union-Migrants-Refugees-George-Soros-Hungary-Viktor-Orban-Europe

>Soros finances 'Handbooks' to spur EU-bound immigration:

http://news.sky.com/story/1551853/sky-finds-handbook-for-eu-bound-migrants

>Soros urges giving Ukraine $50 billion of aid to foil Russia:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-crisis-soros-idUSKBN0KH0NQ20150108

>Hacked emails expose George Soros as Ukraine puppet-master:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-01/hacked-emails-expose-george-soros-ukraine-puppet-master

>George Soros funds Ferguson Black Lives Matter protests:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/14/george-soros-funds-ferguson-protests-hopes-to-spur/?page=all

>Soros funds paid "protestors" to spur civil unrest:

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Ferguson-Missouri-paid-protesters/2015/05/25/id/646587/

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>Soros funds MoveOn and Media Matters:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Matters_for_America#Funding

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MoveOn.org#Financial_contributors

>Soros funds Black Lives Matter:

http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2015/11/13/anti-american-left-funds-blacklivesmatter-now/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/14/george-soros-funds-ferguson-protests-hopes-to-spur/?page=all

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/may/19/hired-black-lives-matter-protesters-start-cutthech/

>Billionaire George Soros has ties to more than 50 'partners' of the ‘Women's March on Washington’

http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2017/01/20/billionaire-george-soros-has-ties-to-more-than-50-partners-of-the-womens-march-on-washington/

>Globalists Unite: Hillary Clinton Running Mate Tim Kaine Dines with George Soros' Son as Donald Trump's Rise Terrifies World Elite:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/12/globalists-unite-hillary-clinton-running-mate-tim-kaine-dines-george-soros-son-donald-trumps-rise-terrifies-world-elite/

>Soros Paid Al Gore MILLIONS To Push ‘Aggressive US Action’ On Global Warming

http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/17/soros-paid-al-gore-millions-to-push-aggressive-us-action-on-global-warming/

>WL 9498 Attached to this is a spreadsheet containing some donations from not only George Soros but also Andrea Colombal... Andrea Soros Colombal.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9498

>>127632787
>right wing retard calling someone else a halfwit
it must really suck being able to see the world only through the simplistic lens of a child

>https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080324173612.htm
>Plant defenses go down as carbon dioxide levels go up, the researchers found. Soybeans grown at elevated CO2 levels attract many more adult Japanese beetles than plants grown at current atmospheric carbon dioxide levels

>http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080211172638.htm
>More than 55 million years ago, the Earth experienced a rapid jump in global Carbon Dioxide levels that raised temperatures across the planet. Now, researchers studying plants from that time have found that the rising temperatures may have boosted the foraging of insects. As modern temperatures continue to rise, the researchers believe the planet could see increasing crop damage and forest devastation

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>Hacked Memo: George Soros Lobbied Obama To Accept 100,000 Refugees Per Year — and Succeeded

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2016/08/18/hacked-memo-george-soros-behind-obama-decision-accept-100000-refugees-per-year/

>Leaked Memo Reveals Soros Plan for Federally Controlled Police

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/30/leaked-soros-memo-federally-controlled-police/

>Leaked Board Documents: Soros Organization Tried To Influence Supreme Court Ruling On Illegal Immigration

http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/17/leaked-board-documents-soros-organization-tried-to-buy-supreme-court-ruling-on-illegal-immigration/

>George Soros funds CAP to shut down criticism of Islam & its growth in western countries.

https://twitter.com/HGKrell/status/765157058354225153

>Leaked Soros Document Calls For Regulating Internet To Favor ‘Open Society’ Supporters

http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/29/leaked-soros-document-calls-for-regulating-internet-to-favor-open-society-supporters/

>BLM Leader DeRay Mckesson Lives In Home Owned By Soros Open Society Board Member

http://thomasdishaw.com/2016/07/blm-leader-deray-mckesson-lives-home-owned-soros-open-society-board-member/

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>DAVID BROCK's Confidential Memo:

http://www.scribd.com/document/337535680/Full-David-Brock-Confidential-Memo-On-Fighting-Trump/

>SHAREBLUE IS PAYING JOURNALISTS TO SMEAR TRUMP

>THROUGH THEIR AFFILIATE, "THE AMERICAN INDEPENDENT"

PG 39:

"In 2017, working with ShareBlue, The American Independent will award grants to top investigative journalists to cover, expose and damage the Trump administration and its allies"

>David Brock is a political operative who founded the liberal media watchdog group Media Matters. Guess who funds Media Matters?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Matters_for_America#Funding

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MoveOn.org#Financial_contributors

>>127632787
It is possible to boost growth of some plants with extra CO2, under controlled conditions inside of greenhouses. Based on this, 'skeptics' make their claims of benefical botanical effects in the world at large. Such claims fail to take into account that increasing the availability of one substance that plants need requires other supply changes for benefits to accrue. It also fails to take into account that a warmer earth will see an increase in deserts and other arid lands, reducing the area available for crops.

Plants cannot live on CO2 alone; a complete plant metabolism depends on a number of elements. It is a simple task to increase water and fertilizer and protect against insects in an enclosed greenhouse but what about doing it in the open air, throughout the entire Earth? Just as increasing the amount of starch alone in a person's diet won't lead to a more robust and healthier person, for plants additional CO2 by itself cannot make up for deficiencies of other compounds and elements.

>>127632787
What would be the effects of an increase of CO2 on agriculture and plant growth in general?

1. CO2 enhanced plants will need extra water both to maintain their larger growth as well as to compensate for greater moisture evaporation as the heat increases. Where will it come from? In many places rainwater is not sufficient for current agriculture and the aquifers they rely on are running dry throughout the Earth (1, 2).

On the other hand, as predicted by climate research, we are experiencing more intense storms with increased rainfall rates throughout much of the world. One would think that this should be good for agriculture. Unfortunately when rain falls in short, intense bursts it does not have time to soak into the ground. Instead, it quickly floods into creeks, then rivers, and finally out into the ocean, often carrying away large amounts of soil and fertilizer.

2. Unlike Nature, our way of agriculture does not self-fertilize by recycling all dead plants, animals and their waste. Instead we have to constantly add artificial fertilizers produced by energy-intensive processes mostly fed by hydrocarbons, particularly from natural gas which will eventually be depleted. Increasing the need for such fertilizer competes for supplies of natural gas and oil, creating competition between other needs and the manufacture of fertilizer. This ultimately drives up the price of food.

3. Too high a concentration of CO2 causes a reduction of photosynthesis in certain of plants. There is also evidence from the past of major damage to a wide variety of plants species from a sudden rise in CO2 (See illustrations below). Higher concentrations of CO2 also reduce the nutritional quality of some staples, such as wheat.

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>George Soros donated $5 million to Democrats to help bankroll the fight against voter I.D. laws in court;

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/31851

>Soros Group Brags About Pushing Racist Police Agenda In Europe, Undermining Stop And Search. This follows revelations in the United States that Mr. Soros and his foundation have been actively funding groups who are aggressive toward police, accusing them of discriminatory behavior toward minorities.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/08/16/soros-group-brags-accusing-european-police-discriminatory-policies/

>Funded by Soros, democratic super-lawyer challenges voter ID laws

http://archive.is/T9Nl1

>Soros leaks

http://soros.dcleaks.com/

>>127633705
4. As is confirmed by long-term experiments, plants with exhorbitant supplies of CO2 run up against limited availability of other nutrients. These long term projects show that while some plants exhibit a brief and promising burst of growth upon initial exposure to C02, effects such as the "nitrogen plateau" soon truncate this benefit

5. Plants raised with enhanced CO2 supplies and strictly isolated from insects behave differently than if the same approach is tried in an otherwise natural setting. For example, when the growth of soybeans is boosted out in the open this creates changes in plant chemistry that makes these specimens more vulnerable to insects, as the illustration below shows.

>>127632934
You can hardly fix anything when big jew owned corporations and governments strangle any small business and local industry.

And they have plenty of shekels. Just because they use quasi slave labor doesn't mean they aren't making a big profit

>>127599859
>No one doubts that the climate is changing.
Prove

hell no,global warming and other shit doesnt exist

>>127632787
also, what does that image even have to do with the conversation?

I love how the only response right wing retards ever have is a huge strawman, because it's easier to just regurgitate arguments made by prominent right wing retards against some overly exaggerated positions instead of thinking for yourself and arguing rationally

>Believing the oil jew's propaganda denying global warming, thus ensuring that we will never have nuclear driven independent future

You're all scientifically illiterate niggers.
You're the reason why we aren't driving around in high efficiency electric vehicles charged using power from thorium reactors and breeder reactors.

>>127634762
thorium powered solar freakin roadways

>>127599724
I would short CO2 like right now, might still be a little bullish but guaranteed burst in a yr

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>>127633751
this retard shareblue shill is literally just copying and pasting
https://skepticalscience.com/print.php

a disinfo site literally run buy globalist whackjob soros lackeys, google them individually
https://skepticalscience.com/team.php

>>127634014
>Pumping millions of tons of co2 into our atmosphere does nothing
LOL

>>127635177
>attacking the source instead of trying to counter the arguments made

That means you lose, you fucking moron.

>>127599724
>Does /pol/ believe Humans are doing irreversible harm to the atmosphere?
probably
>Should something be done to stop it?
yes
>What?
gas the chinks and poo in loos

>>127630287
You da man!

>>127631258
Cutting corners in methodology as a scientist is a sin.
>>127631330
That is a percentage. In absolute numbers coal is still on the rise.

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>>127617664
Fusion soon lad
Then the true colours of the UN will be revealed for all to see, once we have fucktons of completely safe energy to use, their attempt to carbon tax whites to extinction slips to their claws like sand
Overpopulation? Fusion gives us the means to build widescale greenhouse farms and Arcology habitats for people very easily, catapulting the carrying capacity of earth to several Trillion, though you do not actually need fusion at all to build these for massive populations

Resources? Fusion gives us the means to easily power shit in space, making asteroid mining a very simple and low cost task, which then gives us the ability to build things like an Orbital ring to make getting shit off earth ultra low cost as well

More living area? those resources will let us make o'neil cylinder habitats in a dyson swarm, further boosting the population capacity far into the quintillions

overpopulation is the biggest jewish trick of the modern era, and it has no basis in reality whatsoever, and any person that knows basic fucking arithmetic can tell you that

>>127635177
Ok, so?
I feel like I can't do as good a job at explaining the science behind this as that site
My english isn't great and the problem with arguing against right wing retards is that it is basically a constant gish-gallop. Every time right wing retards argue against something, they counter argue by making up facts, arguing completely opposite positions at the same time and just make up a bunch of bullshit. Since right wing retards always regurgitate the same bullshit sources designed to be used in a gish-gallop, it's much more efficient to simply use an already pre-written debunking

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>>127634762
>breeder reactors

>>127635803
Zajebal, Ņikita. Atpakaļ uz Krieviju.

>>127635683
>Cutting corners in methodology as a scientist is a sin.
It doesn't invalidate the papers though. It makes them more likely to contain errors, but using it as "global scientist conspiracy exposed" is just retarded

>That is a percentage. In absolute numbers coal is still on the rise.
They are the largest investor in clean energy in the world.

>>127636047
>doesn't believe in global warming
>calls me the russian
wew lad go suck some more oil industry dick

>>127633534

Oh you totally impressed me with your ability to watch a 19 minute video in 2 minutes.

Truly you are a mental giant.

>>127636633
Except I've seen this video before
You're not the first climate denialist to think you're clever for posting that video

>>127600062
He said chemicals not CO2

Learn 2 read

>>127634762

We don't have nuclear power because of environmentalist whack jobs who believe in man made global warming and got their education on the subject from the China Syndrome.

>>127599724
sure propose a solution that makes sense and doesnt just subsidize china and india
nuking china and india for example would be a logical policy if you actually think its an emergency that must be addressed
taxing western nations is not a logical policy if you actually think its an emergency that must be addressed

>>127636924
fuck, that explains this ad I've been seeing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Ln3rzHGck

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>>127636777
no you haven't, shitposter

though to humour your bullshit, Instead of bitching that people do not believe your climate extremism, why not give some examples and ideas on how we could solve the problem, but not tax people into oblivion and drive their standard of living into the fucking trashcan

I can think of quite a few, Solar shades and mirrors come to mind for cooling and heating

>>127636959
>because of environmentalist whack jobs who believe in man made global warming and got their education on the subject from the China Syndrome
nice strawman

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>>127637114
yes I have
nuclear + solar

>>127637144

It is literally the truth.

Leave it to the libtard to ignore reality.

>>127637191
Solar where fuccboi
Hope you don't say on earth, because you'd be retarded if you did

>>127637114
>Instead of bitching that people do not believe your climate extremism
I'm not bitching
Majority of the world believes in global warming (aside from sub-saharan Africans, poor Asians and rural rednecks in the US)

>>127637323
solar on earth for now
then we build the dyson sphere

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>>127637394

The funny thing about actual science is that you don't have to believe in it. It speaks for itself.

>>127599724
I'm a skeptic.

Why do they stop at 650K years? I saw an article a while ago that the Earth has 420 or CO2 ppm, with the last time it was that much was millions of years ago.

We're not destroying Earth, just humans. Earth can handle this.

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>>127637308
>more strawman arguments
if I was a libtard, would I have had a whole folder of these images?

>>127619904
>>127625329
You don't believe in eugenics? You never thought there is over population, especially in Africa, Asia, Middle East, and South America?

>>127637961

Yes.

>>127619606
I keked 10/10

>>127637778
>science is FACT
le geeky nerd """"scientists"""" like you are worse than fundumentalist religious nuts should just kill yourselves

Science is empirical. It IS about which theory you believe. You may have believed in Newtonian physics, but turns out it's false. You may have believed in normal particle physics, but it turns out that is false too. Science is all about finding models to explain empirical data. It is about belief and which model you find more trustworthy and more capable of predicting future data.

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>>127638240

>>127637778
quoting le based nigger man pop scientism quotes
go to hell

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>>127638313

It's like watching a cult in action.

>>127600192
this kek

>>127637778
Also, there's literally nothing wrong with the person responding in your image. Why would NASA try to cooperate with a flat-Earther? Why would a scientist try to cooperate with anti-vaxxers or free energy retards, only to have everything they say taken out of context just to further the anti-science agenda?
For example, see >>127631258

the world is getting larger, hotter and more expensive if you're on the downward spiral. people wll be browner and blacker (melanin magic) and everything will be slower, more chaotic, and cost more.
the climate will change if you're on the downward spiral. it has to, to accommodate the increaingly spiccy and niggy population. if you're not a nigger, you may be one soon. if you don't become one, your child will. or at the very least, your grandchild will.

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>>127637394
>complains about strawmans
>strawmans others
I'm an engineer, by leftist standards, I am an educated elite like them
I do not at all believe that the climate is going to crumble to dust because of human industrialization, as volcanic eruptions, underground gas pocket leakages, and natural wildfires cause far, far more greenhouse gas emissions than our entire history combined, by several magnatudes, Each.
While I agree that we should take measures to go green, I do not agree that we should do it through taxes and deindustrializations, as both of those just ruin the lives of most of humanity, just for some feel good backpats
If anything, we should be industrializing harder, improving our methods of energy generation, and fixing the problems through brute force

Rip the gasses from the atmosphere and purifiy them, Co2 into carbon and oxygen, mass desalination plants for fresh water
widescale hydroponic greenhouse farms for food
knock down a mountain to get the matter for dikes all along the coast to combat sea levels, if was already calculated that if ALL ice on earth melted, sea levels would rise only 80 meters, a single average mountain gets you more than enough matter to build 100 meter dikes on all the coastline of earth, even when maximizing coastline real estate
Solar mirrors and shades to heat and cool places that need either
and much much more

And none of those are difficult tasks, We've been disassembling mountains back before we even invented metal working, we've been diking coastlines just as long
You think to love the earth, I declare we should make her our bitch

>>127638521
>retarded nigger thinks science is FACTS
reality is empirical
math and logic is inductive
in math you prove things, but in science you theorize models that would fit empirical data the best

>Empiricism in the philosophy of science emphasizes evidence, especially as discovered in experiments. It is a fundamental part of the scientific method that all hypotheses and theories must be tested against observations of the natural world rather than resting solely on a priori reasoning, intuition, or revelation.
>Empiricism, often used by natural scientists, says that "knowledge is based on experience" and that "knowledge is tentative and probabilistic, subject to continued revision and falsification."
>knowledge is tentative and probabilistic, subject to continued revision and falsification
t. wikipedia

>>127601402
They've already done that - have you seen the famous beijing smogs?

>>127638681

Because that's how science works.

>here's my conclusion
>no you can't see how i arrived at it
>shut up and pay your carbon tax goy

>>127599724

This is the infamous hockey stick chart which was thoroughly debunked because it used fucking rings in trees to chart temperature history.

Our earth was so overblown with co2 at some points it was covered in healthy plants, how terrifying is that?

The truth is that there is no conclusive anthopogenic global warming evidence, and we have been in a cooling period for the last 20 years. Some will tell you its only cooling because the heat is "trapped in the ocean" but this has never even been close to proven.

Climate science isnt wrong because of liberals and taxes, its wrong because its meme science that has never been conclusively proven.

>>127599724
Yeah, but our solution should be to plant trees and use the supply and demand capabilities of Capitalism to renew energy over the forced tithing and restricting of Socialism. The tricky part is allowing economic freedom and aid to the climate while keeping the corporations that are corrupt from ruining it all, so we probably have to begrudgingly allow the liberals to implement some taxes (just not to the level they want to).

>>127635469
No it doesn't. Not every single time. Try this one Swedecuck:
"The holocaust didn't happen"
- source: infographs from 4chan
If you attack my sources, you lose.

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carbon is the "666" element, it would make sense that more would build up as our dimension gets denser, dumber and blacker

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>>127639343
except then you would be attacking the content in the infographic, not the fact that it's an inforgraphic

>>127639192
>Scientist: here's my conclusion
>Scientist: here's my data
>multi-billion dollar media corporation funded by oil companies: REEEEEEEE LOOK AT THIS DATA TOTALLY FAKE
>multi-billion dollar media corporation funded by oil companies: GLOBAL WARMING IS A HOAX AS YOU CAN SEE THESE NUMBERS WHEN PUT IN A TOTALLY DIFFERENT CONTEXT AND WHEN COMPLETELY MISREPRESENTED ARE ABSOLUTELY FAKE

>>127628666
That's what people say when they can't dispute it.

>>127639192
>le carbon tax strawman

>>127639884

Literally no one denies that the climate changes you retarded chimp.

The question was whether or not human beings contribute to it.

>>127638708
Excellent post, leaf bro.

>>127639775

Boo hoo.

Put on your big girl pants and show your data or be declared a fraud.

>>127635769
You. You, you, you. This post makes me so happy.

>>127599724
Still waiting on temperature to rise according to CO2 models.

>>127639974

How is it a straw man? It is literally the only "solution" libtards have offered to the supposed problem of global warming.

Solar cycle 24 is one if the weakest on record - we have data going back to around 1770, and this 11-year cycle is exceptionally mild. This lull is usually followed by a mini ice age a decade or two later.

>>127639588
Except the other anon was attacking the content on the website you used as source, not the fact that its a website.
Try again :^)

Climate Change is cool! We're a tropical species. We were only able to colonize the north after the discovery of fire. So warmer is better overall.
It will make Canada and a Russia much more habitable after all that snow melts.
A warmer world = a wetter world. So the deserts will green.
Climate change is not a death sentence. Stop being so anti-human. It's disgusting.
Also, climate change gets a lot of federal grant money thrown at it. They're incentivized to fudge the data and come to certain conclusions.

>>127640090
A lot of climate scientists show their data and openly discuss climate change, but then you end up in a situation where the oil funded media corporations take everything they say out of context to further their agenda, so naturally these scientists would be reluctant to share their data with people who are willing to lie through their teeth to further their agenda

>>127640200
>It is literally the only "solution" libtards have offered to the supposed problem of global warming
fake news, there are thousands of different things people tell you to do to stop global warming
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=global+warming+solutions

>>127640634

>muh oil funded media corporations

You people are pathetic.

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>>127640485
>this retard shareblue shill is literally just copying and pasting
>https://skepticalscience.com/print.php

>a disinfo site literally run buy globalist whackjob soros lackeys, google them individually
>https://skepticalscience.com/team.php

yeah, this was totally attacking the content of what I posted instead of the website and the people making the website

>>127640727
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/feb/14/funding-climate-change-denial-thinktanks-network
http://exxonknew.org/timeline/

keep denying facts that make you feel uncomfortable you pathetic little snowflake


>even the companies funding climate denial secretly acknowledge climate change
top lul

>>127641152
Always use archive.is on sites renowned for crap journalism and clickbait. Thank you.

https://archive.is/pUgKb <- theguardian.com article

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>>127639282
>This is the infamous hockey stick chart which was thoroughly debunked because it used fucking rings in trees to chart temperature history.
yep, here's two accurate ones

>>127641152

You are literally posting leftist propaganda at this point.

>>127641152
>the Guardian
You can stop posting any time.

We have to get China to stop shitting up the atmosphere because they do most of the damage

>>127641394
>>127641429
>attacking the source instead of the content

Here's an article from greenpeace that shows how they got the data:
http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/global-warming/climate-deniers/koch-industries/

>>127641697
You can absolutely attack a blatantly biased source you utter dipshit.

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>>127641697
>greenpeace

>>127640878
But you would be doing the same thing in my holocaust example. You could present your own statistics to "counter" my infographs, after which i would post more statistics and graphs to counter yours. This would go back and forth until one of us decides to call bullshit on the other's sources. At that point we would be at the point this thread has gotten to. Multiple sources from both sides of the argument had already been posted. My main point here is that attacking the source over the content is not the best strategy if you want to convince anyone, but it is not an automatic win like the Swedecuck implied.

>>127641879
>blatantly biased
post proofs that that article is blatantly biased

>>127641895
>Here's an article from greenpeace that shows how they got the data
>that shows how they got the data
>shows how they got the data
>shows [...] data

nigger stop arguing with facts just because there's a header above the facts that say greenpeace

>>127642055
>post proofs that that article is blatantly biased
What, so you can shift the goalposts about the meaning of bias until your fragile ego feels like you won the argument? Fuck off.

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>>127641697

>greenpeace

>>127642035
You attack the methodology of the source to prove that it is not reliable, but you don't attack the source

Ad hominem is not an arguing tactic and makes you look like the loser.
If you want to attack the article I posted, show me how it is wrong instead of just dismissing it.

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>>127642159
>ad hominem to stay willfully ignorant
i win

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>>127642392
>fucking
>GREENPEACE

>Graph goes back 400,000 years
>Earth has only existed for 6000

>>127599724
Not irreversible no. I certainly think we're changing it, and in a largely negative way, but I don't think it will ever get to the point of being completely impossible to stop. It might get fairly extreme, and the steps needed to fix it extreme as well, but still doable.

>>127599859
>They want to charge and tax the fuck out of you and limit how you live
>destroying the envorinment is ok because it's cheaper

fuck you

>>127641697
>greenpeace
You don't know how to argue.

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127642868
You don't get a (You) for such a low effort leaf tier post

>>127642272
If you look through my posts in this thread I don't think i used an ad hominem on anything you posted. I was just trying to say there are no automatic wins or losses in this type of debate. However, posting the guardian and greenpeace as sources is as close to an automatic loss as you are ever going to get.

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>>127642392

Yeah. You sure won.

I don't know how you can take all of this winning.