Why the fuck is it okay for landlords to exist? >pay me money

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>>127598294

Seize the means comrade

>>127598294
>not owning land
feel free to stay a serf

>>127598294
Just buy your own house and you don't have to pay money.

>>127598852
Kek,
What is council rates.

>>127598294
what is land based economy.

>>127598852
what about those years one has to pay money to occupy space while saving up money to eventually stop paying money to occupy space.

>>127598294
you live in the country that is probably the easiest to own land in.

The trick is you have to leave your metropolis which you are probably refusing to do. So if you want to live in the jew's domain then you must pay the jew. But that was your choice now, wasn't it?

>>127598294
Rent is immoral and theft.

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>>127599527
My cities belong to me, you cant charge me rent on my cities.

>>127599502
paying your dues is pretty normal in any form of human society or subculture.

Nobody starts out on top of the mountain, and you are not entitled to take a ski lift there just because many others already climbed it.

>>127598477
I'm gonna seize your ass, you slut.

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>>127599803
Either a city is mines thus you cant charge me for occupying it or a city is not mines and you charge me slave rent.

>>127599050
>What is council rates.
That's a very good question.

What the fuck are you saying?

>>127598294
There is a practice in the Soviet Russia to regulate the rent and demand the renting of unused properties, which is now used by many European countries, and it is sufficient.

A landlord might have not created an apartment, but neither did you. He at least manages and maintains it, and noone prevents you to sleep on the Earth without one.

>>127598852
>"Oy vey looks like too many private independent land owners in this area, looks like well have to raise property taxes"
>Triple private property taxes, people are forced to sell their house to a (((lender)))
>Good goyim, time to take these taxes back down.

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>>127598852
Communists/Socialists eternally BTFO

>>127598294

So go live in the woods.

>>127600261
Obviously you have never tried it then.

People are often prevented from just sleeping on the Earth.

>>127598294
Fucking Commie faggot.

>>127600261
>He at least manages and maintains it
Allegedly

>>127598435
Sage goes in the options field

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>>127598294
u mad bro?

>>127600261

I am totally in favor of this, at least it'd drive prices down.

>>127598294
Think about it this way OP if you own a house and hate your location, for example Indy your stuck there until someone is roped into buying your house in that shitty shitty city.

Where as if you take a job there and hate it after 6 months you can just leave and tell your boss to fuck off and go somewhere much better if you rent.

Your free and clear if you rent.

you dont have the right to live in his shit hole. He can let it go back to the damn dirt if he damn well please. Buy your own shit if you dont want to rent or live in the woods.

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>>127599941

>>127601171
They dont have a right to rent.

>>127601291
that's a dude

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>>127601460
i wish :(

>>127601518
dank

>>127601161
Remt should be capped at $300 a month.

>>127598294
Can I come live with you and eat your food and use your car? You can't own things after all.

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>>127598294
>own property
>pay taxes
What is this shit? Why should I pay the government for something I own?

>>127598294
lol weed bro
None of us exist. This is all a dream.

>>127601593
traps are gay

>>127601718
I can get with lolbertarians on this one, property taxes are theft.

For libertarians, how do they deal with land markets?
Theres no innovation or production in a land market, its entirely capital based.
Once you own land you can extract rent forever

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>>127598294
If there's no property why don't you just take what you want instead of bitching about it?

If you don't want to pay him money then don't.

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>>127600827
I have to pay for that
https://www.fs.fed.us/visit/passes-permits/

>>127601460
No it isn't. KYS

>>127598294
Feel free to live in a place that isn't his property.

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>Gibsmedat!
>No you can't use my iPad that's PERSONAL property!

>>127601377
I am saying they have the right to do whatever they please with said property. One could burn it down for all i care it is their property. The taxes and upkeep are provided by the owner in the usa if they dont pay their taxes for X amount of time you have the right to take it over if you pay the taxes. I think it even goes so far as if you perform the upkeep for X amout of time and pay the taxes you can take over the property as well. More then anything no one has the rights to others property if they pay the taxes on it.

Pay the Jew, goy

>>127598294
A construction worker said to the owner "pay me money to build this space", and you expect to live there for free?

>>127601968
>why don't you just take what you want instead of bitching about it?

he's afraid someone might not like it of course

he need the government to protect his thievery

>>127600967
That's why you always have a lawyer involved.

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>>127601891
no they are not

>haha there is no property the earth belongs to everyone
>oh I see you working an putting effort into one specific area of Earth
>that means out of all the territory on the planet Im gonna conveniently use the one you're working on
>thanks for doing all the work for all of us teehee

>>127601518

lol, totally understood this one...

wpww 1488

>>127602212
Please delete this picture

>>127602275
nothing wrong with paying for a house to be built however the point is
house =/= land

>>127602284
>he's afraid someone might not like it of course

>he need the government to protect his thievery
Are you talking about the landlord?

>>127599502

Why don't you take all the locks and doors off of mom's house. Who are you to say who can occupy that space?

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>Fuck the cops, gibsmedat!
>Why the fuck are you hitting me, that's not fair!
>Police, police! Help!

Go buy your own land and stop living off someone else's then, you parasite shit

>>127602431
If people can't afford to buy, so they rent, they sure as hell can't afford a lawyer.

>>127602879
>Who are you to say who can occupy that space?
Wouldn't it be nice if we could decide this question in a way that doesn't rely on those with the most shekels making this decision?

>>127601718
In a civilized nation it's for clean running water, storm water and sewage treatment, sealing of your street and driveway, keeping trees and public lawns at your boundaries kempt, animal control and carcass disposal, recycling and garbage collection, record keeping and valuations and the governance of the small slice of society where you live including everything from stopping your neigbour erecting a 4 story dildo totem blocking your afternoon sun to the by-laws preventing your other neighbour from tuning his 5L at 3am Monday morning.

In Poland, however. I'm not sure.

>>127602728
>Are you talking about the landlord?

the landlord maintains that space

>>127602086
You act like you're going to have a park ranger kick out of a spot just a little off some random trail.
Only time you pay is if you're at a campground.

>>127598294
>unimaginable amount of labor in mining materials, refining materials, cutting lumber, shipping materials, planning, constructing, building, etc
>state charges monthly fee for using space
>building requires constant upkeep
>landlord pays all costs
WHY DON'T YOU GIVE IT TO ME FOR FREE REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>the state is a thief! Taxation is theft
>charging rent is just free market capitalism tho

>>127599803
you don't own SHIT goyim

>>127600558
>>127600609
>>127600945
Just wait till (((they))) redistribute the land. Russian empire freed the surfs, not long after (((Lenin, Troski et el))) started the community revolution

>>127604036
>people should just let niggers live in their house for free
>people should just not be allowed to own homes
>homes should be provided and maintained by government
>somehow this won't lead to low maintenance commie blocks for everyone

>>127602728
No, see, the landlord purchased the land build housing on it. The government protects his legal rights over the land and whatever he builds on it. Most anyone in society is fine with this, because they value having their own property as well, and having mutual respect for each others property is a cornerstone of modern civilization. We still need the laws because some people it's ok to say "fuck the laws" because some bearded dude and a philosopher that got BTFO by Nietzsche the moment their luck with political theory and philosophy. respectively, told them they deserve whatever they need/want, if just whoever they take it from are wealthier than themselves.

>>127603858
>the landlord maintains that space
I would glad take on that responsibility, however that is not an option
>>127604034
>unimaginable amount of labor in mining materials, refining materials, cutting lumber, shipping materials, planning, constructing, building, etc
all done by these great noble hardworking men
http://advocate.nyc.gov/landlord-watchlist/worst-landlords

>>127604293
I think for the poor it makes sense to have government housing.
Richfags dont want homeless loitering around their shops do they

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>>127598294

Rent is tax. A sovereign landlord is a state.

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Kill your self commie fuck, you deserve nothing but assrape fucking beta male commies should get helicopter rides

>>127598294
As a landlord.
I can tell you you pay me for the fucking apartments you are occupying which, I fucking purchased and own.
Did I create the Earth? No bitch.
But, I created the fucking place you live in.

WTF is wrong with you? Get a job pay you're fucking rent. this isn't you mothers house and there are no free tendies. Or better yet, buy a apartment complex and make some fucking money and make you Mommy proud and buy her some tendies.

>>127598294
>complaining about jews while simultaneously espousing the jews' beloved communism

>>127604513
>some landlords are bad
>rent should be free

good thinking comrade

>>127603447
Oh so that is why I get a separate bill for water, run off and trash pick up.
Why I do pay for my driveway to be fixed out my own pocket?
Wasn't fuel taxes started to fund repairing and building new roads?
I live in a liberal town so me opposing that dildo would be oppressing all the gays.

I understand there is a need for taxes but here in america most of what you listed isn't paid out of property tax funds.

>>127598294
We have landlords cause niggers can't buy land

>>127598294
Get a job

>>127604513
>I would glad take on that responsibility, however that is not an option

What, you mean a bank won't loan money to an unemployable illiterate to buy his own rental property?

Oppression sure is tough.

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>>127599803
Shut up Nigga.
You don't own shit and you broke as fuck.

>>127606570
My cities belong to me do they belong to you?

>>127606570
Rent is theft.

>>127604621
Rich people are stupid they will fuck the poor until the poor fuck the rich

Fucking idiots, trying to break the thermometer when the room gets hot. The answer isn't getting rid of rent but making building more easier.

>>127601460
So what

>>127606820
I guess that's the only time you'll get laid.

>>127606870
Getting rid of rent frees the people from slavery.

>>127606786
You're entitled to nothing.

>>127599050

What are council rates?

>>127607103
And who pays for the building?

>>127607103
Getting rid of rents means the market has no way of signalling that there's need for more space for living.

>>127606820

>Rich people are stupid
>He doesn't even own his own land

>>127603103
This. It feels like the majority of landlords I've dealt with were greedy, lazy, pieces of shit with no interest in maintaining their properties beyond the bare minimum. And if they ever do go beyond the bare minimum you can bet you're rent is about to go up.

>>127607581
except the homeless i guess

>>127599502
you don't have to. you can live on the streets if you wish. it's only if you feel like living inside a house would be worthwhile that you need to do it.

>>127607581
Getting rud of rents abd instead providing subsidies for maintanence and administration pay gor specific jobs that will be nationalized by state is best or if you dont want shit nationalized, then ageee for state subsidies.

>>127607581
The people take census for increased hpusing productions, saying removing rent is communism is equivelant to saying banning skavery is communism.

>>127608443
That's the extreme gauge. In a modern society there are people constantly moving from area to area after jobs and personal preferences, so we have to do better than that.

>>127610695
its not about space, its just about price. there are empty spaces everywhere, its just whether landlords want to rent out at a certain price or not

>>127610464
If the only objective is to stuff people inside buildings whether they like it or not, then yes, that is a viable solution.
>>127610896
There are tons of restrictions on building. During the US housing crisis Houston didn't have skyrocketing housing prices exactly because of lenient urban planning

>>127600609
>pay taxes and interest on a house for 30 years goy. Never mind the fact that you and your neighbors could just build each other houses for a fraction of the price if it wasn't for our tyrannical zoning and finance laws. Never mind the fact that your dirt poor ancestors 1000 years ago could afford their own family and dwelling by age 17, you have to slave away. Houses are primarily investments to make us rich, not shelter for you. Oh btw here's your tax bill, we need the money for Shaniqua's section 8 so she and her ten kids can stay in the house next door to you. Once she causes property values to drop in your neigborhood we'll buy back your used up shithole for half the price of your original mortgage and then rent to another welfare junkie your tax dollars get to pay for. You'll die in an old folks home while niggers destroy your neighborhood.

>>127598435
Enjoy your ban
>>127598573
Haha you don't own land you filthy capitalist pig


>>127601133
you mad capitalist

>>127598294
why the frog's eyes look like buttons?

>>127598294
KYS commie bastard

>>127598294
fpbp

>>127613075
As if landlords are capitalists. Topkek

>>127611969
Why are commies such a bunch of faggots? Is it because you have massive egos but no talent?

>>127598294
Why don't you buy-up land and let your commie bros hang in it for free then, faggot?