Why did we stop building beautiful things?

Jews

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I have no idea.

How did they afford building everything to look good in the old times, when everyone was supposedly much poorer than today?

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>>127593102
That new building looks depressingly Finnish. Damn.
The top one would've been quite comfy to look at during the winter nights; many people likely have many good memories because of it.

>>127593258
Who stole my nose?!

In all seriousness though, it's a damn fucking shame leftists ruin everything.

>>127593258
Post-war brutalism. Some of it is good, most of it is not.

>>127593102
they werent poorer, we live in a world of intangible money. We basically are bartering without even knowing it.

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>>127592271
<- New building for the school of architecture.

Actually nice on the inside even though the exterior leaves something to be desired.

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>>127592271
I'm in Gothenburg Sweden and I have to live with this fucking abomination. It looks like the monolith from 2001 sounds. Just smacked down straight in an area of the city where olden times architecture dominates.

>>127593102
Because back then people who made decisions didnt listen to those who were angry about giving lots of money to fancy projects.
Nowadays you get a protest against any artsy public building project.

>>127593445
some of it is interesting but i'd hardly describe any of it as looking good except for some of those trippy monuments in yugoslavia

>>127592271
It's literally a psychological attack, although admittedly subtle to most people. They probably don't even notice it.

>>127593102
The punchline may be that the cheap looking, uncreative, non-aesthetic design may be the reason they have more money at the end of the day. These kikes would probably tryand convince us a piece of particleboard with a string is fashionable footwear if they could.

>>127592271
I saw, on 4chan, that architects don't have the same skill to build things like they used to.

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>>127593930

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>>127592271
Kikes, obviously.

>>127593258
>>127593678
>>127593102
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>127592271
capitalism
there's no value in culture with the quarterly report

>>127592271
progressives want everyone to be as miserable as they are

>>127592271
Lack of skills and class

>>127592958
This is the correct answer. Jews basically rule architecture/design in every Western country. Jews hate everything beautiful.
Also great projects breed resentment in niggers and other muds who cannot do such things, they demand to be included and it runs everything down.

>>127593678
That's not terrible.

>>127593258
The best part is that it was done by Alvar Aalto, the only architect known to the public. Or it probably done because of it, he had a Master-status and nobody dared to question his ugly shit because he can't be wrong.

Block-buildings should be banned.

>>127593678
So much glass. Muh heating bills. Unless that's a non-issue today.

I like the fact that it's round and the windows are not exactly on-top of each other, but it's not enough difference. Not bad I rate it 2/5.

>>127593429
jew posts like this are half the reason I come onto this board.

Nepotism

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>Hey guys i know nothing about modern architecture
>Anything not using bricks has no tradition attached to it whatsoever because i only understand that bricks look old!
>Look at these cherrypicked images that i personally don't like because big things are scaaaryyyyy

Man these threads get me every time.
I think these and the Asian Guy White Female thread are some of the funniest material on here.

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The NSA HQ is surprisingly modern for the year it was built in.
I mean, look at the main building in pic related. It looks contemporary, right? Look at the parking afterwards.

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>>127594584

>>127593102
1) More laborers. In my hometown there used to be over 100 independent bricklayers unaffiliated with any company or crew for longer than a single job. Now there's less than 20 people who know how to lay brick AT ALL.

2) Local resources. When all of the materials are produced less than a day's travel away transportation cost plummets.

3) Simpler supply chains, due to above.

4) Modern amenities add in huge costs. Air conditioning, electricity, plumbing, water, heat, cooling, fire escapes, lighting, it all adds up.

5) Cities used to be self sufficient out of necessity. All produce was local because you just couldn't get crops from halfway across the country to EVERY city easily. Same with basically every product. Automobiles, the suburbanization of society (Compare American cities to European ones), and globalization mean urban areas don't have to be self sufficient. Costs slowly rise long after the alternative died off, so there's no alternative to compare it to.

>>127594826
>Malmo
>Swedish

>>127592271

We are too obsessed with being modern. Ornamented buildings are... ...anachronistic or something. Same goes to fashion. We are no longer elegant. We no longer want to emphasize how civilized and cultured we are.

people still think that we don't live in communist state

>>127594826
Anything you want to say or are you as mute as you are stupid?

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>>127594584
Build whatever ugly abomination you want but don't tear down beautiful traditional buildings.

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>>127594971
forgot pic

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hnggg that building gives me a boner desu

>>127593973
>some of it is interesting but i'd hardly describe any of it as looking good except for some of those trippy monuments in yugoslavia

You have to take into account that those monuments were made by famous sculptors and architects which were a product of a country that at the very least actually cared about and financed art and culture.

>>127592271
>Why did we stop building beautiful things?

Because it would shame the ugly you fucking scum cis-heteronormative ableist.

>>127594988
Jeez why are you so angry, did your bull forget to wear a condom again?

Relevant question on which is better:

Classical or gothic?

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>>127595019
I love how you, as a mexican, believe you have any right to talk to a Swede about architecture or culture.

I know you are just baiting but damn you crack me up. Its like when an indian tries to talk about computers or an american about food.

>>127595189
I hate how much (((they))) have ruined London.

>>127595317
I never forget to remove my wife's bull's condom once he's getting ready to finish

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>>127595051
I'd rather live in a building like that than in accommodated apartment block #1959812

>>127594988
Why so angry? Did jamal the bull cancel tonights date?

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>>127595051
Is that even real? It looks like a CG render.

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>>127595518
>Hey you are so mad lel because i don't understand banter / have skin like a baby
What?
>Hey heres an le epig me-me hahaha i'm so kewl XD
Alright, sorry my boy forgot summer is here already. Keep on acting like a sissy avoiding the question again so you are easy to spot. Alright? Alright.

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We have some nice old apartments here now they just build 50 storey glass boxes everywhere

>>127595051
where is that

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>>127594826
Once when I was in Malmö, I witnessed the only major "ooh shit" fuckup accident I've seen in my life.

I can't remember exactly what car but some nice four door BMWish car smashing into a concrete traffic blocker totally wrecking the side by the first wheel, as he tried to turn into a parking lot.
I'm pretty sure the car was game over after this, he turned fast to enter the lot and it "scraped" the side, the first wheel turned "inwards" and the metal casing got bent from the front of the car to the second door, first door totally bent inwards where the concrete "blocker" were and then the car "sank" resting only on 3 wheels and itself.

He looked so crushed and his wife was pissed off at first then calmed down, it actually was quite humbling seeing their patience of it all but I guess they were well off and insured.

It was somewhere on this picture but I don't know exactly where, but by the ocean.
RIP in peace.

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built 1491 in France

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arab architecture doe

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Modern architecture ages faster.
Pic rel was consider hot shit after ww2.

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Also

>Itt bunch of poorfags without the money to build their own houses

Kek.

>>127593429
Kek

>>127595828
>>127596405
Why bother posting than ahmed? You can go back to rebbit and enjoy bbc cuck threads...

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>>127592271
For anyone that wants to quietly mourn the death of western civilisation in a proper English philosophical way:

https://vimeo.com/55784152

>>127595905
>>127595717
Singapore
https://youtu.be/aSbdSnwsWMs

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>>127594875
Thanks for your input. I guess the more important follow-up question is, how do we make buildings aesthetic again?

>>127596197
Absolutely gorgeous. Would live/5.

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>>127594584
>we aren't losing our culture it's normal to have giant concrete block buildings. You racist just wouldn't get it. T....tell them I'm right Muhammad.

>>127593445
I actually really love architecture, and brutalism is one of my favorite styles, but most of these don't go far enough into brutalism, and brutalism-lite just looks lazy and boring.

>>127596349
The shape isn't that bad, but the rest of the environment ruins it
>commie bloks in the background
>shitty garden in the center
>billboards
>everything near the ground is grey

If there's anything I don't like in that building it's the pale orange colour on the balconies (might look good if there's sun though), as well as the general shape of the balconies. Hell, they should've used darkened glass, too.

The basic gestalt
>Most architects in the 60's and 70's are pinko commies
>They tried to emulate USSR commieblocks
>They succeeded
>Time goes on
>Now modern architects emulate the "style" because it allows them to design disgusting, featureless commieblocks without admitting that they're completely devoid of talent
>Governments pay for it because it's easy and also because they're full of pinko commies

Brutalism is the worst thing to ever happen to architecture.

>>127596334

For the Saudi, that thing is holier than the meteorite cube itself.

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>>127592271

>Why did we stop building beautiful things?


We removed God.

Here is why we are seeing what we are seeing. Learn to recognize it in our daily lives:
6:00-6:42
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuCw8UT5y6c


This is our public library - it went from ugly (bottom) to fucking hideous (top). At least the old version was ageing, and spoke of an era. It used to be roomy and comfy inside, now it feels like an airport. Been it once, probably never go back.

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>>127596590
>Hey heres another meme XD Why would i answer the Q?

Thanks kiddo, now the whole thread knows what i'm talking about.

>>127596811
Okay i'll humor you to prove a point.
Look at >>127594826 Can you tell me what part of that building that goes against the good old Swedish tradition and culture?
Just point out 3 things and you can meme all you want, sounds fair no? I'll wait right here.

>>127595717
Hey, that's p cool actually.

>>127594607
What exactly is so surprisingly modern about a glass building housing computers and stuff?

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>>127596334
blow it up. they removed a beautiful building before it

>>127594584
>hahahaha let's just demolish our unique historical architecture to build a glass block that has no identity

>>127597056
Top looks waay better though.

>>127596334
Literally looks like a tacky Vegas hotel.

>>127596682
Holy shit, it's actually real.
It looks like something I'd randomly do in SketchUp. It's just buildings on top of buildings, but jesus it looks impressive.

>>127597121
swedishgoatseflag.jpg

nords r worthless nobodies

>>127597364
>>127597502

See >>127597121
Stop spouting meme's and actually join the discussion.

>>127596692
The simplest way?

Go here: http://carfree.com/ and read up. It won't solve everything, there will certainly be a learning curve.

>>127597121
>Can you tell me what part of that building that goes against the good old Swedish tradition and culture?
Probably the ugly sharp edges, pinprick windows, and general lack of fitting in with traditional styling. It was a giant white dong swinging in the face of good taste. Made to make a fashion statement, not to look good or suitable.

>>127597121
That building looks exactly like something out of Dubai. I guess that is Swedish culture now lol. The rest of the buildings look like parking garages painted pretty colors it's ugly.

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>>127592271

Changing the Building design is/was part of a CIA/Globalist operation to make people more depressed among other things.

It also relates to Energy(Positive,Negative,Neutral,Flow).


http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/

>>127592271
It's not architectural, it's cheaper. No one wants to spend any money. To build in the old style architecture costs way too much time and money.

They just call modern shit architecture as a catch phrase.

>>127592271
You think every building was beautiful? There were hideous buildings back then, just because we have only the important buildings (palaces, castles, etc) left does not mean that the prisons in 18th century were beautiful.

Also such beautiful buildings are usually unpractical and costly.

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>>127594584
So anything else to add besides some bad shitposting and strawmaning ?
Anything of value to the conversation at hand or any argument whatsoever ?
Any of the supposed knowledge in modern architecture to share ?

they weren't efficient and took up more space

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>>127596895
for me even it shape is ridicules
also after 10-20 years this kind of building no longer look fresh and new but also they don't look classic, just shit
>pic
more from this series

>>127597666
I know you are just trolling me right now, but i mean in architectural terms, not "Hurr that angle is off".

>>127597710
You too mate? See above, please respond like an actual adult.

I'm starting to think my original asessment that none of you guys actually know squat about architecture was spot on.

>>127597899
I love how you skipped past 4 of my posts to make yourself look better. Learn 2 read and i'll answer.

>>127592547
Looks like a Covenant base from Halo Wars

>>127597121
Modern architecture has no national identity. The first of the new skyscrapers were built in the (((International))) style.

The new construction in modern cities look totally interchangeable. There's no diversity.

>>127598009
To play devil's advocate, your pic has some of that retrofuturism vibe to it, which I guess isn't bad if you're into that aesthetic.
Some of the other blocky shit in this thread is just bad though.

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>>127598224
First actual argument! Nice!
So you are saying that if i showed you two pictures of houses built in the late 1800 hundreds you could tell me roughly where in the world they where built?
Or from what period do you want me to take the pictures?

>>127598078
>but i mean in architectural terms
Why, when you clearly aren't familiar with them?
Where in traditional Swedish architecture are twisted buildings with prison block windows common?

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>>127598224
>Modern architecture has no national identity
>The new construction in modern cities look totally interchangeable.
This is the heaviest offence of modern architecture desu.

>>127598078
You don't have to know modern architecture theories to know it looks ugly and bland. The thing is old architecture paided attention to detail and you could get lost in a single building because of all the details. These modern architecture is just bland with a slight twist(literally in the case with that skyscraper.) Its just boring and depressing.

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>>127592271
Jews started the whole modernist and postmodernist movements, these inculed not only architecture, but other arts like painting, photography, philosophy, films and much more.
They started these "movements" in the early to mid 20th century and it rejected all kind of philosophical and artistic movements from the Age of Enlightenment, renaissance and the classical arts.

To put it short, these "movements" were created and exist solely to shit on everything created by Europeans, from paintings, to architecture, to philosophy with the goal of eliminating them, that's it, jews pushed (and keep pushing) their postmodernist crap in a intent to erase every cultural feat accomplished by European societies.

You don't see more Gothic, Baroque, Classical, Romanesque, Beaux arts architecture anymore because jews infiltrated every single school of art and architecture, and convinced every single soul that the past is wrong and "postmodernism" is nice!

>>127598490
1800s is getting a bit late for unique city architecture, but still doable. Especially when you leave CoAs in them. Ie. that one is from Prague.

>>127594156
Except thats not true, you think the awkward angled glass and steel monstrosities that the like to build are cheap to fabricate or maintain? (protip they're not)

>>127592271

>posting a picture of the back entrance of a building to make it look uglier

cmon now

>>127598528
>Hey i bet you don't know but i wont show proof either because i also don't kno--- I mean...

>>127598638
Dear god... Wait this is scary.. Are you saying.. THat some people... Like things you don't? And you don't have the money or power to do your own thing?

Man.

>>127598695
Wasn't an example since you could reverse it. So what age then? Give me a year and you can prove how wrong i am by telling me what country they came from since national identity apparently is clearly shown in architecture.

>>127598858
>Hey i bet you don't know
I gave you proper terms. Not my fault you're trolling, or a charlatan.
>Give me a year
Aight, 1600. Stone still in use, but brick on the rise, except for how varied cultures use it.

>>127594607
These "modern" buildings exist since the late 40's to early 50's
The "modernist" movement crap has been pushed by academia sine the early 20th century, around the 1910's

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>>127595051

I guess I can patrol this shit-show architecture once the kikes get their Megacity future.

>>127592271
Maintenance cost.
Historic buildings with vaulting roofs and masonwork are extremely expensive to maintain. It's just poor business sense.

>>127596334
Looks like a cheap plastic Las Vegas hotel, and they stuck it towering right over The Cube, topkek muslims

>>127598858
What a stupid argument I don't have money to build it? Most of these are built by public funds and I don't remember a poll on which building style people prefer. I'm sure most people would prefer classic architecture, but I guess that's where you have to go when you can't actually defend the look.

>>127594156
This guy gets it. Spending extra resources to make something look nice isn't capitalist. Buildings are made as cost efficient as possible. Further, nice design is usually inefficient in terms of resources and interior space. Ugly block shit will get you more offices/apartments than a beautiful building, which is more money for the owners.

>>127598579
>>127598490
>>127598224
European architecture never had that much "national" identity since it built upon classical architecture and integrated pretty much everything good from every western/white/European society, as well as elements from conquered lands (and even some conquerers).

If you're not using this "national" identity in some vague Paneuropean sense, it doesn't really work, it's more of a collection of regional identities.

You can for example find a lot of Ottoman architecture that's perfectly humane (although suited for a different temperament), just like European architecture.

But everything after WW2 is literally made to destroy the human soul.

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>>127599387
The Swedish one was private, but please show me one that i couldn't vote for okay my man?

>>127599027
Here ya go. Abit earlier but from similar times. Should be easy peasy for ya.

>>127594074
I wouldn't be surprised, since some air traffic crashes that happens today would've been easily avoidable 40'ish years ago before pilots got too reliant on computers

>>127592547
Idiot "david's star" is not necessarily jewish
in hinduism it is SHATKONA
It represents 4th chakra
meeting of the real and astral world

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What /pol/ thinks brutalism is

>bunch of commie architects conspiring to kill the Western spirit

What brutalism actually is

>cities and organizations compete for lower taxes/funding = lower budgets = shitty concrete hack jobs that architects have to turn to brutalism for any sense of aesthetic affirmation to justify the fact that no one cares

>>127595717
That's just a copy of turning torso...

>>127599449
That's not true though. As you go from Spain to Russia, the architecture changes drastically. Compare Paris and Amsterdam. Both have drastically different styles. If I showed you a picture of each you could very easily tell which was which.

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>>127593258
They did this to the (((art)))g allery of ontario , and the royal ontario museum in toronto as well.
fucking kikes.

>>127599831
Right looks Dutch or Belgian, ging by the towers and the windows. CoA would help me confirm which one it is. Probably quite new(ish), given the size of the windows. Maybe a folly?
Left is obviously Swedish or Norwegian just from the stone work and colour (German or even Danish would be darker), and i'm guessing those wings were added later.

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>>127592271
1. modernism
2. profit

Modern age is degenerate, computer and plastic age of disposable products. Therefore architecture must be the same, as every other art.

Also, it's not viable and profitable to make decent looking buildings and products for everyone because there are so many of us. What do you think what would happen if every housing is plastered in classical architectural and highly ornamental style? We would go bankrupt. Therefore, with population boom architecture becomes brutalistic, cheap, easy to build, easy to maintain. Clean cut edges, geometric shapes, etc. e.g. Corbusier Stalinist crap.

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>>127600844
Thanks for proving my point.
Right one is Bouchout Castle in FRANCE and the left one is indeed Kalmar Slott (which is Swedish). But the fact that you think the stone would be noticibly different is what told me you just guessed, since spoiler alert the germans had access to the same type of stone as we do (and the danish bought a ton from us). And look at a old german castle, same stonework.

Thanks for proving my point in such a good way, and the fact that you had a lucky guess about the Swedish one and then ruined it by talking out of your ass made it even better.

>>127592271
have you ever built anything? anything at all? i think we should all make something and take a picture of it to post on the internet. i will make mine beautiful. at least i intend to. if something or (((someone))) keeps that from happening, i will document the event and let you guys know. you do the same, ok?

>>127599449
Come on lad, I understand what you're trying to get at, but there's a reason why we associate certain architectural styles to certain places. See stuff like Portuguese tiled homes or the half-timbered houses we associate so much with western/southern Germany (even though they appear elsewhere).

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>>127601454
So with every Socialist intended housing scheme, which makes soulless kolhoz blocks to house the millions of workers, there is also a clear intent to degenerate and destroy art, culture, and soul. Hence starchitects such as Libeskind and other oven dodgers.

This is also one of the reason I think right wing revolution is improbable, because if you want to counter the effects of Kike led modernism, you'll need to undo 70+ years of mass concrete jungles, and that's impossible. To achieve aesthetics, every inch of modernist architecture (including skyscrapers, roads, everything) would need to be destroyed. Now think how long would that take and what would people think. Right now that's vanity.

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>>127592271
I know what you mean, the worst times are when they build new buildings next to old fashioned ones. At the very least in Bath over in the UK they somewhat try to keep to the same brick style. Shame that they haven't done it anywhere else I've been.

>>127601628
>Bouchout Castle in FRANCE
Two seconds in google says, "Bouchout Castle is a castle in the Flemish town of Meise, Belgium"
But nice try.
>And look at a old german castle, same stonework.
Nope. Especially with those later additions. Germans were more wont to use bricks.
>lucky guess about the Swedish one
Look at the towers, you idiot. Even without the stonework a simpleton could have deduced it.
>And look at a old german castle, same stonework.
Lolno.
But hey, thanks for proving what a fool you are.

G'night, Juden. Do some research before the inevitable next thread and save yourself some face.

>>127601628
>Bouchout Castle (Dutch: Kasteel van Bouchout) is a castle in the Flemish town of Meise, Belgium.

>>127600180
But we have less tax money for infrastructure because commies want to spend it one gibs so it all comes back to the commies

>>127592271
tHIS is how serial killers are made :^)

>>127599416
This is correct. Low-bid-wins and "fiduciary responsibility" essentially ruin the possibility of ornate architecture.

Also, above a certain height, traditional architecture doesn't work at ALL. Skyscrapers have a very narrow range of ways they can look without collapsing, or spewing materials from hundreds of feet up in a wind storm. Good architects can still make a city's skyline have character and identity, like in NYC or Chicago. Bad architects give you commieblocks or Vancouver.

>>127600484
>Literally putting a kike nose on a European building

I thought these guys were subtle?

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>>127596692
People need to quit reinventing the wheel all the godamned time. Stick to the principles of classical design and work from there.

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I don't get why so many people dislike modern architecture. Postmodern is pretty shit, but modern architects really had their acts together.
Prentice women's hospital was one of my favorites, even if it was designed by Bertrand (((Goldberg))). pic related

>>127600417
>the architecture changes drastically
More drastically than, for example, from Art Nouveau to Brutalism? Of course not.

>>127601728
There are architectural styles that developed in a certain region (or multiple regions at once) but they inevitably spread farther than a single country's borders if they were any good.

Anyway, my main point is that post-WW2 architecture is shit unless it's specifically some sort of revival of something pre-WW2, and this is not simply because of national features (although of course there are elements of that).

If you look at contemporary architecture in Europe and Islamic countries (I don't know, Saudi Arabia or something), you'll see that Arabic buildings actually still have their traditional elements and ornamentation and whatnot that makes them recognizable as being from that part of the world. But they're regardless complete soulless shit just like their Western counterparts.

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>>127602634
A giant glass skyscraper in the shape of a pillar, like those in this pic, would be really cool.

>>127602232
The tax revenue crisis since the 70s is literally all from spending on spics and nigs. Kill them all and we could pay off the debt in ten years WHILE rebuilding our infrastructure.

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destroy the oldest part of Bucharest, the real inner-city ...

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>>127600484
Is this shit permanent?

>>127592271
The only beautiful areas in Swedish towns are the old, untouched streets. Köping is very nice actually, comfy as fuck with lots of old and nice houses.

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>>127602804
... to make room for this

>>127592271
because they wanted to stop your culture from being a thing, and you allowed it, now they are trying to replace you with a muslim population and culture, and your fine with it. Future sweden will be like present day greece.

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>>127602666
The way the concrete comes together is really precise and elegant. There's always a reactionary force against the most recent past that tears down some beautiful things.

>>127595364
C L A S S I C A L

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>>127602768
I like the boldness of the ancient shapes and proportions. There's a pizza place around here that looks straight out of the Bronze Age. Really clean and solemn.

>>127602791
It's because of spics and nigs that we can't pay for infrastructure, healthcare, (((free college))), or any of the gibs that socialists want. But they want all of this, and more for the shitskins. It's blatantly impossible.

>>127602814
Nah the aliens will probably come collect their crashed spacecrafts at some point.

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>>127602863

... years later, the Orthodox Church comes up with the glorious idea of placing their new Cathedral (biggest in Eastern-Central Europe) right behind the second biggest building in the world.

>>127602941
Idk, it just seems so drab to me. Like I could probably like it if I conditioned myself to like it, but old European architecture is just explicitly beautiful. It's detailed and indicative of triumph. This just looks dirty.

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>>127603216

>>127592271
Different times, different resources both materially and skills wise (not as many artisans about). While that picture is not the best example, typically newer designs are more cost effective both in building and (biggest savings here) over the long term through maintenance.

You can use older materials well, that's where there's a deficit in design education mostly. But trying to ape older ways of building leads to pastiche - you get like a Las Vegas or Disneyland version of what you're aiming to build.

>>127593102
They were poorer in part because they had to use more expensive materials, and in turn that meant they didn't get paid a lot despite high skills.

>>127601628
>>127602190
>>127602214
Fucking rekt

>>127603559
Holy shit, that's actually pretty nice
God Bless ROMANia

>>127603593
Every hundred years or so since the Renaissance someone comes along and kickstarts a Classical flavored architecture movement. We're about due.

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>>127601454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p-nTYKPo_I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LESPHMopFM8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZPYNvOQqOA

We need to 3D print/cut all the old ancient structures from the history books. Turn them into public park attractions.

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>>127592271
>Why did we stop building beautiful things?
Jews

>>127602190
that whole exchange felt good to watch, I knew that arrogant cuck would get BTFO in the end

>>127593678
The lighting plan looks good, it flows with the (a bit cliche) design.

>>127594875
My hometown just built a fourteen story house out of wood.

The modernist wave is dying mates. We finally did it.

>>127604002
>We need to 3D print/cut all the old ancient structures from the history books. Turn them into public park attractions.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/peoplesdaily/article-3621429/Double-New-theme-park-China-builds-Great-Sphinx-Giza-Parthenon.html

(not to mention their replicas of pretty much all famous shit in European cities)

>>127592271
because we replaced beauty for function and cost effective materials. also remember a lot of these buildings were considered in trend and nice looking at the time they were built, since then losing appeal

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>>127603630

god bless you too, neighbor. We still have some nice places in the old historic center in Bucharest. Better visit now, at the next earthquake 1/3 of Bucharest will fall to the ground, especially the prewar architecturally beautiful buildings. We'll be left with the commie part, and we all know what that looks like

Check the picture, you'll see more than 5 different architectural styles. On a single street you'll go from neo-romanian or neo-brancovenesc to modernism to medieval orthodox church to brutalism to regular commie buildings. This town is either a masterpiece or a nightmare for an architect.

>>127592271
|>
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>>127604431

>mfw i will witness these buildings disappear in my lifetime

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>>127592271

>Brutalist Architecture

Literally a jewish plot to make us feel like sheep

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brutalist_architecture

Look into it for yourself.

>>127592271
>Why did we stop building beautiful things?
Communism.

They view beautiful buildings and streets as "bourgeois". The logic goes "Why are you spending time making your neighborhood look nice when you could be putting your money to better use giving free food and homes to drug addicted criminals who never worked a day in their life?"

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>>127604431
Hngggg that city looks fucking cozy during the night. I'd love to drive around during a summer night, where the streets are (probably) empty and calm, admiring the beauty of it all.
No shit some people that left Bulgaria in the 1800s (some of the revolutionaries) never actually returned. Bucharest probably looked pimpin back then, too.

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>>127603593
There are companies that sell Styrofoam classical ornaments meant to be stucco'd over. They dress up a plywood box pretty well.

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>>127592271
Only autismos go into architecture now, so we are tortured by the sickness of their retard brains.

>>127592271
socialism

>>127604690
Holy shit, the example you posted is indeed depressing. I can't help but picture litter and stains everywhere.
I mean, look at the fucking stains that already exist. Disgusting.

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>>127601628
>>127602190
>so BTFO he had to abandon thread

>>127604690
Jews push modern art in the west to accomplish the same thing.

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>>127604690


one of three examples of brutalist architecture employed on a large scale in Bucharest. All buildings were built by the (((fascist))) regime during WW2. Looks fine to me

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>>127604690
But the father of brutalism, LeCorbusier, was an alleged anti-semite. He's quoted as saying:
> "The Jews are having a bad time. I occasionally feel sorry. But it appears their blind lust for money has rotted the country"

Old buildings had rich patrons who wanted their buildings to look as extravagant as possible for bragging rights. Nowadays buildings are built by large companies and have to be approved to be built by city bureaucracies who want them cheap and taking up as little space as possible.

>>127605087
This is actually cool.

>>127605090
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
Where the fuck is that? I feel like I've seen that before. It looks absolutely familiar.
It looks straight out of a dream or something.

>>127605192
That building would look nice if it were painted and kept clean.

>>127605203
Swiss are just the jews of the mountains

Bauhaus was bent on stripping down architecture; to evoke the "machine." Glass and steel; no ornament; just what is necessary.

This, in turn, caused a shift away from the crafts of ironwork and glassmaking, et al.

>>127603888
Sort of. If you look at it it's mostly a back and forth about form against function. So gothic revivalism in the late 19th century is about having exposed hinges and brackets and shit because the functional elements are meant to be beautiful, you get this again with these modernist style domes where the form is trying to be purely functional, same again with brutalism where the concrete still shows the wood form work it was cast in and so on. The last equivalents to what you're calling classicism will be stuff like arts and crafts and minimalism by that measure.

Infinite debt allowed too many retards to build houses.

>>127595371
Sven Mohammed talking about food? Now that's hilarious.

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>>127604690
>Habitat 67 in Montreal, Quebec, Canada, designed by (((Moshe Safdie)))
kek

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>>127605681

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>>127605721

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>>127605806

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neo-romanian architectural style.

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>>127604690
But anyway, it's not like every brutalist building is bad.
I don't even live in the town this building is located, nor have I ever been there - but it manages to evoke some warm, nostalgic feelings somehow. Perhaps it's the black/brown in front, as well as the darkened, reflective glass.
>>127605660
>most recognizable in Canada and America
Literally never seen it before lmao

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>>127604334
I got lost after clicking on your link. Here's some OC.

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>>127605969

>>127592271
the West lost its soul

>>127592958
and this

>>127605969
Beautiful!

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>>127606068

>>127593678
All those windows look so damn invasive. Ugh...

>>127605087
It's advanced garden gnomery imo m80. The US has terrible neoclassical tat interiors in a lot of places, it's weird when there are middle class people in third world countries with houses made of real marble and stone and such, and then in the US you get pretend formed concrete and plastic that looks nothing like what it's trying to be.

No offense, I know you guys don't really see it as that bad, but if you're from somewhere with real old buildings that are being copied it don't look good.

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Guess I'll post some Bulgarian architecture to join in.

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>>127606146

>mfw we could've been a theocratic masterpiece if not for the world wars

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>>127602768
>dat Menorah on the right

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>>127606310

my highschool (inner-garden)

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>>127606268

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fuck cities.

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>>127606596

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>>127606571

>>127592271
because of jews. you should know this by now.

>>127592271
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C04JZsoqs1A

>>127605349
Mirador, Spain

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>>127597899
This is Birmingham my hometown

The classic old style buildings are being torn down and replaced with abominations like pic related all the time. Still a few lovely buildings remain (for now)

Pic related is an eyesore but i'll post a couple nicer ones that still remain

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>>127606716

>>127605090
That's so bad someone actually tried to crash a bi-plane into the left side!

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>>127606778

state of decay all around, nonetheless

>>127592271
It's capitalism. It's much more cost-effective to build an ugly eyesore glass tower or concrete block. Also, a lot of the craft that went into these buildings has not exactly been lost but simply not emphasized.

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>>127606992

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>>127607115

>>127596334
>fake New York City

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>>127606954
mate what the fuck are you doing in birmingham. if i remember correctly on the last census it was the only city less white than london.

>>127593429
The irony, Noseberg, is, that the architect of this building is Jewish.

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>>127606954
We have this lovely church - that they decided to put this absolute eye sore right next to - how anyone can consider them comparable from an artistic merit POV staggers me

The church would look a lot better if it received any goddamn care too - i even volunteered to do it with my business

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>>127607017

1885' building left to rot by the owner because it's easier and cheaper for him to exploit the land, instead of rebuilding it exactly as it was before (as required by the law for historical buildings). Sad, many such cases.

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>>127607085
it aint about the money

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>>127607212
Stopping.
I really miss this kind of buildings; they're being phased away so we can have flat, reflective buildings without an inch of personality.

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>>127607271
then again Newcastle isn't that bad. jesus christ. still got all the old architecture.

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>>127607330

1908' building that was destroyed, same reasons as previously stated.

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>>127607526

>>127607526
God damn I get hard imagining the air in the morning there.

>>127596165
ragnar's on mushrooms again

>>127607219
>>127599356
Check the filename
It isn't called al-bait for nothing!

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>>127607271
Lovely Greek styled town hall here - one of the few old style buildings left in birmingham. Obviously it's an odd take on a building in an urban centre but i still think it's lovely
>>127607255
being 22 and trying to get my business to the point where i can make enough money to move out of my parents house and somewhere nice. Believe me, i don't want to live here (also i'm not IN birmingham - im out in the suburbs like a white person, but it's the nearest city)

And as much as /pol/ likes to shit on the Irish, i remember visiting my family in the city centre when i was young and before the Muslim horde took the city over and the Irish still had a presence there. It was by no means the ritz, but it still felt like a place you could walk around freely, there wasnt grafitti everywhere etc

Everyone likes to meme on Birmingham but it really was a nice place for a while

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>>127607614
thats the nicest part of the city left

>>127592547
Oy vey, remember the 45 MILLION!

>>127607561
But didn't the earthquakes made a lot of older buildings un-viable for use ?
Or were the earthquakes older than your pictures ?

>>127607782
Well best of luck and I mean that but I'm comfy not having a shitskin within 50 miles of me.

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>>127599449

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>>127599449
England

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>>127599449
Spain

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>>127607561

same story, building is owned by an investment firm that decides to "hold on" to it for more than 25 years - completely ignoring maintenance as to induce a state of decay, then proceeding to demolish everything and profit from the land. In those 25 years or so, the building will "peacefully" still exist as a home for gippos or other homeless.

Sharks that will sell their own souls just for money. I'll never understand the mindset of a man that destroys art.

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>>127599449
Russia

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>>127606266
I'll take neoclassical tackiness over a painted box. Haven't looked into stone prices. Some anon on here was saying the old roman style stone public buildings are about as expensive as modern ones. Many people have no real training in classical art principals or proportions, so their creations look tacky. As long as you stick to the principles you could carve a beautiful palace out of shit.

>>127607526
What's the reason that a lot of British towns have lost their traditional architecture?

>>127592547
That's just an efficient way to design a terminal you autist

You are literally the hotep niggers of /pol/, make the rest of us look crazy

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>>127608089
fuck that. that's a cuck hut. this is an english country house.

>>127607985
Dunno where you're living apart from the woods where there isnt a shitskin in 50 miles these days

I don't want to stay in the UK long - if i make enough money to get out of permanent work i'd be heading to Ireland or the US

>>127592271
Postmodernism. In their estimation, nothing about our society is good, so we must "deconstruct" it at every opportunity.

>>127607990
>>127608089
>>127608206
>>127608136
Let's just take the fachwerk example, check out the wiki page and see how many countries have them, and even feature them prominently in historical areas:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Timber_framed_house

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>>127597893
Except making a fancy modern building costs a lot more and requires more expensive maintenance, expensive heating, etc.

>>127608223
Expensive desu

Everythings on a budget, and we have gibs to hand out, single mothers to support, a failing socialist healthcare system etc

So we need to build any governmental buildings on the cheap or leftists will be triggered that we aren't spending the money supporting niggers or homeless or whatever. Thus cheap materials, plus all the new stuff like fire exits and lifts and all that stuff adds a lot of cost.

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HOPE
O
P
E

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>>127608223
Can't be certain but I think it's a combination of self loathing & lost passion. But I'm the wrong person to ask, I've never left the north east and outside of the city center I don't think anything has changed here in atleast 200 years lel.
>>127608401
Northumberland at the moment, I bought land here, moved from outskirts of Newcastle which was still more or less 100% white. I don't know why you'd want to retreat to 54% land on that subject though. Ireland is alright but what does it have that the UK doesn't? Property and land prices are just as ridiculous. Wales is probably a better choice than Ireland.

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>this building is under reconstruction

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>>127607967

>But didn't the earthquakes made a lot of older buildings un-viable for use

Yep, but that didn't stop the people from still living their lives in those buildings. The authorities classified the buildings as Red-1 - essentially meaning that if an earthquake over 5.5 comes, the buildings are at risk of falling down - and advised the owners to leave. Most of them chose not to, either because they are old or because they simply do not care or want to move to another place.

tl;dr 1/3 of the city, especially the historical pre-war buildings, are classified as Red-1 (more than 350+ buildings built between 1800's-1900's).

All the signs point to a large earthquake happening in Romania - the last big one was in '66 and there's usually a tectonic pressure relief every other 50 years or so (recorded since medieval times). If the earthquake is higher than 6, Bucharest will fall down into millions of pieces.

>>127607468
Now that's a beauty.

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>You won't be needing this anymore, goy

>>127606596
shame that 85% of plovdiv is a shithole

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>>127606829

>>127608674
That's nice, where is it?

>>127608616
When can we stop building with fucking redbrick at the very least?

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>>127596334
Why do they hang their dirty carpets fom the side of the building?

>>127593258

i hate visual glitches

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>>127608994
The French deserve it though.

>>127604002
>We need to 3D print/cut all the old ancient structures from the history books. Turn them into public park attractions.
+1
>>127605349
madrid

>>127609157
I believe it's on the same square as parliament building in budapest

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>>127609169

what the fuck am I seeing? WHY?

>>127594826
I like it

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>>127609169
literally what the hell

>>127609098
agreed
I don't know about Sofia, but it looks damn depressing the further from the center you get. Horrible, horrible. Varna is not the best city, but at least it's not as crowded. The villages nearby are quite nice, too.
>>127606900
>>127609335
Thanks mates.

>>127609169
nigguh

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>>127608136

Not only do they insist on building new monstrosities, they insist on destroying old classic buildinga.

Look up the ROM in Toronto. A classic old museum that some peckerheads added a hideous modernist addition onto, ruining it

Roger Scruton, a traditionalist thinker, claims that modernist architecture serves a political purpose. It is a globalizing force, because if you have these same abstract buildings everywhere and get rid of local architecture, then you feel like you are in a borderless world

>>127595051
this isnt even that bad

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>>127609157
Budapest, Parliament square. The commiebox was demolished already and the reconstruction works has begun. They are using the original, 1020's facade plan for the new building.
Btw, that building is above the metro station. If you want to go down, you have to go into the building.

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>>127609578

>>127608847
thats because hungary hasnt fallen to liberal madness

i was in budapest last summer, it easily compared to prague and krakow and vienna. better than the mountainnigger stronghold.

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old pic, loads of Dacias

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Pic from Belgium. Gets a lot of praise here for some reason

>>127609517
> Sofia
yeah was pretty shit too. The best part was the communist architecture tbqh.
Bulgaria had a really depressing vibe to it. Rila monastery was very nice tho

>>127592271
After WWII there was a need to build quick.
Couple that with the artistic movements the traumatized minds of the 20th century and bolshevik sympathies in western intelectualism and you get.... that.

>>127592271
Two words, smug architects

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>>127609813

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>>127609452
>>127609514
>>127609570
I know, it's not progressive enough.

>>127592271

Different priorities. That is the reality.

Make things beautiful again

>>127609899
Yeah, I've been there. Bansko nearby also has some remnants of the old Bulgarian architecture I love.

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>>127609169
HAHA WHAT THE FUCK PLEASE TELL ME GOOGLE TRANSLATE IS WRONG

>>127592271
When what was old was the norm, architects purposfully set out to build "modern" things to stand out.

When those "modern" things proved cheaper and easier to build, and because they stood out and the old stuff was becoming unmaintainable and boring, other architects followed suite.

When all the old structs were torn down and what few became unmaintainable, with all the old architects either retired or dead, along came the third act in this theatre of madness where "modern" is the new old.

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>>127592271
My town's arts building

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JUST

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>>127593429
Is this you merchant?

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>>127610335

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>>127610308
DEATH

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>>127610117
>>127610308

>mfw

>>127610335
>another dissatisfied customer

>>127593678
Look like nice massive wood furniture. I could see it in my living room