Okay /pol how do you argue against this?

>>127531884
first SAGE

>>127531884
kill yourself rat

>>127531884
SECOND nuns are required to wear cover only in monastery or during religious work

OP here, I'm asking a legitimate question, i want to be able to argue agaunst this.

>>127532199
>>127532157

>>127531884
one doesn't get acid routinely thrown in their face if they don't wear it

Because nuns choose to, in Islam you are forced to dress with a hijab.

You fuck them all

>>127532199
why would you want to argue against a rational statement?

>>127532199
Nobody forces a woman to become a nun and wear a habit. Muslim women get battery acid to the face if they don't wear a hijab.

>>127531884
If a nun in Italy doesnt wear a hood she gets scolded by her fellow nuns.

If ANY woman in Saudia Arabia goes outside without a hijab gets stoned to death.

>>127532199
nuns alsotake a celibacy vow

>>127532199
if a hijab isnt meant to be oppressive then why isn't it flowing white gauze? it's black polyester in the fucking desert it's pretty obvious it's meant to be a form of punishment. also a nun can quit being a nun at any time and only has to wear that shit for certain occasions. muslim women would be killed. the whole point is so they don't look attractive because in islam if a woman gets raped it is her fault. her showing her hair and ankles is tempting muhammad and his rape crew.

>>127531884

Fuck I love slutty nuns.

>>127532306

oh c'mon - you would throw acid in the face of a muslim in a heartbeat. why is it okay if you do it?

>>127531884
Historically speaking Nun's were sluts who disgraced their families and were forced to live in seclusion like that in islam they treat all women like that as the default setting ... also not all nuns wear that shit it depends on the order many just wear normal clothes

>>127532394
Because it really isn't? I just wanna enforce my argument with a better statement.

>>127531884
Christianity doesn't compel any women to take on religious orders, it's a vocation that the individual chooses after many years of discernment and preparation. Once they have become fully prepared and accepted into their convent, only then are they required to take up such a habit.

>>127532448
>stoned to death

Sick neg.

>>127532442
>>127532483
where in the qur'an does it say a woman will get killed or acid thrown at her if she takes it off?

>>127532507
You don't throw acid on muslims, you throw boiling lard. Its almost like you don't even psychological warfare anon

>>127532507
we would do it because they way they are
they do it for trying to act better than they generally do

I dont accept any of that liberal garbage the west has the superior society and values
not all cultures are equal

>>127531884
>1 post by this ID
you newfags fall for these shit slide threads every fucking time.

>>127531884
One explodes the other doesnt.

>>127532808
https://www.soundvision.com/article/quranic-verses-about-hijab

A husband, father, brother, government, and so forth is not making the nun cover her head. She does it out of her own free will. Many Muslim women only cover their heads because they are froced to by others.

>>127531884
nuns are a tiny sect not the general population of women in society

Because white countries are Christian and nuns are christian. Go be Muslim in your third world shithole with no chance of development.

>>127532199
Nuns choose to join a convent and take vows and other things. If a nun leaves for any reason she might face excommunication but that's about it. Christians don't expect women to wear a habit, especially not non-christian, non-nun women.

Muslims force all women to wear a hijab under pain of battery acid or death. This includes non-muslim women.

>>127532808
read it
its also not just a religion thing
its the culture, it offers little value to humanity

>>127532199
No one forces you to be a nun.

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>>127531884

Remind them of this:

http://rarehistoricalphotos.com/women-protesting-hijab-1979/

>>127532199
nobody kills nouns for not using that shit you stupid fuck

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>>127531884

>>127533857
some mexicans desu

>>127533508
Probably to guard against sandstorms in the desert.

>>127531884
All women are whores and need to be controlled. This isn't the reason why we dislike Islam. Islam is disliked because its inherently anti-white.

>>127533050
so where does it say they'll be killed or have acid thrown at them for not wearing it?

being a nun is a life choice.

you wear a hijab to preserve your life.

if a nun does not cover her hair, worst case scenario is getting chewed out by an old priest or nun.

if a woman does not wear a hijab, worst case scenario your brother rapes you while your father preps a shallow grave.

>>127531884
How many times are you gonna post this? I responded seriously the last two times, fuck off now and choke on a pig dick.

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Women wearing a cloth around the head that doesn't cover the face is in line with traditional European and European-American cultures.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wimple
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_headcovering

>>127532199
i don't see nuns shitting the place up and when they get old and ugly they don't whip out the burka and look like kkk members

>>127534269
That would be the verses about what to do to people who go against the Koran.

>>127531884
All sandniggers must die.

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>>127534372
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/women/long.html
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/inj/long.html
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/int/long.html

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>>127531884
/pol/ just got destroyed. Women can preserve their modesty however they choose, even if this means that /pol/ remains a virgin.

>>127534269
>https://www.soundvision.com/article/quranic-verses-about-hijab
Here you go. Read any of those that relate to going against Allah's will or the Koran.

>>127535241
so where is it saying they have to wear it? greentext the quote that says they HAVE to wear it

>>127532808
>it doesn't say it in the Quran therefore it is not true

kys

>>127534855
it hasn't been for 200 years you pleb

>>127535512
https://quran.com/24/30-31

>And tell the believing women to reduce [some] of their vision and guard their private parts and not expose their adornment except that which [necessarily] appears thereof and to wrap [a portion of] their headcovers over their chests and not expose their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers, their brothers' sons, their sisters' sons, their women, that which their right hands possess, or those male attendants having no physical desire, or children who are not yet aware of the private aspects of women. And let them not stamp their feet to make known what they conceal of their adornment. And turn to Allah in repentance, all of you, O believers, that you might succeed.

>>127531884.
I'm sure it's been said by now but just in case.

First of all, nuns and "muslims girls" aren't comparable. All Muslim women are expected to wear the hijab. Nuns are part of dedicated religious orders. They choose to take on certain behaviors and dress to show their faith. They are also free to leave at any time.

But most importantly, no nun has ever been stoned or had acid thrown in her face because she decided not to wear the habit anymore.

>>127531884
Nuns are celibate and lock themselves in a convent.
No catholic woman is required to be a nun.

>>127536327
so where is it specifically forcing them to wear it? that just sounds like a suggestion to me.

>>127536960
>Words of prophet Mohammad, written in their holy text, speaking to his followers directly
>I-it's just a suggestion!

Try again faggot.

When nuns start blowing themselves up I'll be against them too. How's that bitch?

>>127536960
Tell you what, how about you explain that to some Muslims in the ME

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>>127533797

Im all for having a good patriarchal society but damn this article hit me right in the feels

I cannot imagine how bad it must have felt to literally lose your rights and freedom you enjoyed practically overnight just because you have a vagina and sucked at protesting

Think about it, because these women and those others failed to properly stand up to their new revolutionary government
They and their children and their children's children will forever live and sub-par second class citizens.

If any place needs feminist activism, it's them.

>>127531884

All are a form of extreme orthodoxy.

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>>127532199
fucking kys

>>127536327
I dont see anything bad about whores covering themselves its just a fucking piece of cloth putting it on your head is not a hard thing to do
Do your women enjoy exposing their bodies to every sandnigger? Oh wait yes they do

>>127532808
Doesn't fucking matter what it says in the koran. What matters is how Muslims practice their religion in real life.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/india-muslim-man-kills-4-year-old-daughter-not-covering-head-while-eating-dinner-1522429
http://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/news/india/Ishrat-was-killed-for-not-wearing-a-hijab/articleshow/53052991.cms
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-28564984
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/06/canada-honor-killing-victim-aqsa-parvezs-father-and-brother-sentenced-to-life-of-prison-dawah
http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2016/12/12/woman-who-got-death-threats-for-posting-photo-not-wearing-a-hijab-arrested-in-saudi-arabia/
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/732298/sharia-patrol-allegedly-launch-brutal-attack-teenage-girl-headscarf-hijab

>>127532199

Muslim women are forced to wear the hijab under Sharia Law, where it is entirely optional for Nuns to wear religious garments.

>>127531884
Sage
Being a nun is a choice. A Muslim woman must wear a veil.

>>127531884
No one is born into being a nun, retard

Anyone stupid enough to -choose- to be a nun or a mudslime deserves what they get.

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>>127531884
I don't. Modesty is a good thing. Islam isn't an oppressive religion because of the hijab, it's an oppressive religion because you get beaten if you don't wear the hijab. Also, there are more extreme headdresses than the hijab, like the burqa. I guess comparing the burqa to other religious headdresses would kind of justify the alleged double standard. I don't see many nuns being physically forced to cover their faces.

>>127531884
Easily.

The nun does it voluntarily out of a desire to devote herself entirely to the monastic and celibate life.

The muslima is required by law to do it, so as to signify she is a piece of property owned by a man, if she doesn't comply; she can be lawfully raped since without being covered she is the communal property of every man.

>>127531884
show me a nun who suicide-bombed someplace, faggot

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>>127531884
No one gives a fuck about women wearing some cloth over their hair. That stupid shit is full of shit because if it was being truthful it would look more like this.

>>127531884

Because mudslimes are filthy animals that worship a phedophile

https://youtube.com/watch?v=j9e_vcSut0A

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>>127531884
>>127532199

Anecdotal evidence and all but:
>In Saudi Arabia for work
>Walking down the street
>See a Starbucks
>Some muzzie female walks out with her coffee
>Pulls down the face covering to take a sip of coffee exposing her chin skin
>Some sand nigger that's driving screeches to a halt and jumps out of his car
>Starts screaming at her at the top of his lungs
>She covers back up and scurries off with the rest of her group
>Guy gives her group's handler a wtf hand gesture
>Hops back in his car and speeds off

>>127531884
Only a few very devoted women CHOOSE to be nuns. Every woman is FORCED to wear a hijab or is beaten, raped, murdered

>>127531884
Nuns chose to cover themselves! They could walk out on the street and no one would stone her to death. Muslim girls in some countries don't even have the choice.

>>127537161
Its saying if you decide to wear a headscarf, the proper way to wear it is to wrap a portion of it over your chest.
Its not telling them to wear a headscarf. The only thing you have to do is dress modestly
>>127537294
Most muslim countries don't force anyone to wear a hijab

>>127538476
>Last point for nuns
Well fuck between this and CK2 I want to read about murders carried out by nuns in the Medieval Era.

>>127538546
And Nuns dont even have to wear it anymore its their choice now.

>>127538742
It literally says "Do this." very clearly.

>>127531884
Because Christians don't tend to rape and beat their women. They also don't force a nun to wear a hijab, it's done by choice. Nuns frequently won't wear their holy garments in their free time. Muslim women on the other hand, are forced to, and in extreme situations, killed, because they refuse to.

>>127531884
Because catholicism nunnery is optional

Also Protestantism doesnt have that shit

Covering the head isn't the problem, covering the face is.

>>127532808
>spells it qur'an, playing stupid

>>127535163
Have you heard of the New Testament

Getting pretty reddit in here.
>As for Sharia law, the hijab is absolutely mandatory regardless of religion. There is no choice.
http://madworldnews.com/ridiculous-meme-know-facts/

>>127538742
>Its not telling them to wear a headscarf.

It makes specific mention of using a headscarf. It doesn't say "dress modestly". It does elsewhere in the koran, but not in that paragraph.

Also, why the fuck is the hijab such a sticking point for mulims (even moderates take it to be a defining sign of their faith) if it's just an optional thing?

>>127536327
>that which their right hands possess
Ayy you can be nude in front of your slaves, cool.

>>127532199
the papacy doesn't stone a nun to death for being a whore if she's not wearing a habit. Most modern day nuns don't or only wear habits for certain religious services due to needing to do normal shit 9/10ths of the time.

equating a religious occupation having a soft requirement to wear a head covering to sharia law is fucking retarded.

>>127538998
No, it says "IF you do this, then do this"
>>127539583
You're taking one paragraph out of context without considering what verses came before and after it.
Most moderate muslim women in the west don't even wear the headscarf. The ones who do, do it out of their own islamic pride

>>127531884
I don't see Catholics doing honor killings against Catholic women who choose not to wear nun attire.

>>127537358
at least they didn't democratically vote away their democracy and rights like turkish women, with smiles on their faces no less.

>>127538742
>The only thing you have to do is dress modestly
or you get raped and killed

>>127531884
It's oppression if they're forced to wear it.

>>127540705
If you dress in a tank top and short shorts yes. If you don't wear a hijab no.

>>127540215
IF you relax around niggers, you'll get beaten up and raped.

Just a suggestion not to relax tho, don't sweat it.

idiot

>>127540215
>out of context
Which verses contradict what I am saying?

Here's the verse about wearing loose fitting modest clothing. It is seperate (though obviously linked), to the wearing of a headscarf.

https://quran.com/33/59

>>127534039
>All those sandstorms in south Sweden...

>one serves God and the other serves a pedo war mongering sandnigger.

>>127531884

Because one is voluntary and the other is forced. /thread

>>127541133
The verse is telling you how to wear a headscarf, not telling you to wear a headscarf. It is telling you how to dress and be modest. Wearing hijab is just going above and beyond

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>>127540957
how progressive of the religion of peace to murder women who show their wrists

hijab=modest dress
less than a hijab, or a burka in most of the middle east, and if you get raped during a sexual emergency caused by your exposed ankles your family honor kills you.

go peddle your taqiyya somewhere else muhammad.

>>127531884
No one other than Muslims are forced to.

Yeah because Christian girls get stoned to death if they don't dress like nuns.
Sage and exterminate yourself plz

>>127541525
>Headscarf specifically mentioned as the words of Allah, in a seperate verse to the command to wear a loose fitting dress (i.e the burqua).
>Islamic scholars all agree that it's mandatory
>Go so far as to say "modest" is everything covered but the face and hands
>In islamic countries it is strictly enforced

You can argue that you can be a moderate muslim who doesn't take the koran that seriously, there are a lot of Christians who do similar, but to argue that it's not outlined in the koran is just wrong.

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>>127531884
Gotchu covered, Abdul.

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MOST MUSLIM COUNTRYS DONT HAVE MANDATORY HIJAB LAWS YOU MAJOR CUUUUUNTS!!!

Do your research before you niggers spout nonsense.

>>127542003
All of your bullet points are wrong. But feel free to bring up statistics and hard evidence to back up your uneducated claims.

>>127532625
Nuns are an extreme example, the most devote of women, women in general don't wear that, even in a traditional all catholic country, compare that to muslim countries where it is expected that women wear that in general.

Basically this is a comparison about what people who devote themselves to the church have to where vs. what normal average citizens from a country have to wear.

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>>127532503
redpilled fetish, settled.

>>127542373
then explain sharia law

>Know a female Arab immigrant
>Iraq or Iran, cant remember which.
>Christian
>Said they could not leave the house without wearing a headscarf
>Had to flee the country because >Muslims were murdering Christians in the name of Allah
>Told me stories about going to Jerusalem
>Didnt wear headscarf.
>Mother and daughter called whores and spit on by Muslims.

>Canada has one of the best vetting systems in the world.
>No problem with Christian immigrants as long as they are well Educated (see vetting process)

>Could care less about immigration as long as the numbers coming in are reasonable and Canada remains majority white.

>White people build NA and it needs to remain a white majority as we are already a global minority and quite frankly hates by almost every other race even though worse atrocities are committed frequently by almost every other race.
>fuck you

>>127542895
Going to be some grammar issues, using mobile.

>>127538525

At first I laughed at the ridiculousness, but then I got sad because I know their women can potentially get killed over that kind of shit.

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It's not even the fact that they have it on. It's that fact that when you criticize Islam you get attacked from every SJW under the sun. People criticize Christianity and the Jews all the time and they arnt called alt-right nazi scum because if it. Islam is the only fucking religion that thinks it's above criticism and SJW filth flocks to its rescue whenever someone points out one of the many bad ideas within it.

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>>127542373
Nice try Akhmed.

>>127542373
desu if you unironically support Islam or think most muslims dindu nuffin you deserve a bullet. You are what is killing civilized society.

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>>127542373
>That degenerate picture
Well color me shocked! Set women loose and they'll try there absolute hardest to be as rapable as possible.
Good think it's Sweden or Germany otherwise the goat fuckers would tear there colon a new so they can't walk straight again.

>>127531884
One is voluntary, the other is forced.

Jeez, what a dunce that this has to be spoonfed to you.

>>127542981
>people criticize the jews all the time
>they aren't called alt-right nazi scum
Nigga you serious?

>>127531884
>>127532199
because someone volunteered to be a nun, it was their choice

vs

sharia law of the land forcing all women to dress up like halloween

one has choice, one doesnt

>>127543338
Maybe a Euro stationed in Iraq?

I've heard the jew/muzzy thing is flipped over there from how it is here.

>>127531884
>>127532199
OP are you fucking dumb or what?

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A nun isn't forced to wear her outfit and won't get killed if she decides not to.

>>127531884
Obviously being a nun is a specialized role chosen by the nun.The habit is a symbol of her removal from the material world and is a uniform for an actual job. Nuns are not supposed to have sex or get married. The muslim hijab or other veils can merely be a symbol of dedication but more often are a required societal signifier that separates all faithful chaste muslim women from those who do not wear such, who are seen as actual designated whores by virtue of having their hair showing. If muslims only wore these things in religious contexts just as orthodox christians tend to, it'd be less of a problem in the western world. But let's say a woman who is Christian but not a nun wants to wear a full nun's habit to work at a restaurant or to go swimming. We would all recognize how out of place and sanctimonious her attire would be in non religious context. It is all a matter of social appropriateness.

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>>127531884
Can you just die already. Nuns live a life of celibacy. Trash muslim garb is just to keep other mudshits from trying to steal thy sex slaves. You dumb fucking nigger

>>127543456
Pretty sure it's still required garments as part of her oath/vow. At least when acting in her duties as a nun.

There are however degrees to the garment (outfit in pic vs the kind you see in schools and hospitals).

>>127532199
You realize pol has IDs.

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>>127542373

Yeah, nah, you're a lying weasel. Pretty clear in the Quran that man is made in the image of Allah and women are made in the image of man, therefore women must cover up their shame. You might be saying " DONT HAVE MANDATORY HIJAB LAWS" to weaselly mean they don't have to wear the Hijab exactly (pic related), but they have still have to cover up somehow (usual worse than the Hijab, like the Burka).

>>127531884
It's basically wanting to wear VS having to wear.
In the middle east women are forced to wear it while in other places or in different religions it's your choice.

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>"Y...you don't like my headscarf, anon?"

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>>127531884
Not every catholic is a nun you fucktard.
>mfw when agnostic and someone with this level of ignorance tries to lecture me on religion

>one is a nun and the other is a whore in disguise.

>>127542215
Underrated.

I dont care what kind of scarf they wear, I care about their tendency to murder innocent people.

>>127542215
My fetish is modestly dressed women like this. hngggggh

>>127531884
Islam is mandatory, all others are voluntary.

>>127531884

see, OP :

in the west, women rule.
and since women are spergs at asserting any selfcontroll or reason, they are all essentially whores.
and they dont want u to live a clean and propper and non fucked up lifestyle,
because then they would face that they are the lowvalue choice f woman against that, they would be ashamed.
they dont want that, so they rather destroy you.

that is the truth behind all of this;
western woman want to destroy you, so tTHEY dont have to face the consequences of THEIR actions.

>>127531884
The bottom pic makes me wonder if there's a Hentai game with a multi religious theme

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Why is this allowed, Islam?

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>>127543338
No one is called alt right nazi scum for saying that moiles shouldn't suck the blood off the heads of baby's cocks after they chop off his foreskin, or that bacon is great. Sure maybe if you call them big nose Jews then yeah but actual criticism of the faith is diffrent then just saying Jews run the world and that hitler did nothing wrong lol

>>127531884
One, the nun won't blow herself up and isn't concealing a bomb underneath her robes. Two, becoming a nun is purely her choice; she won't get beheaded if she refuses. Three, that's not what a hijab usually looks like, it also covers the mouth and leaves a slit for the eyes. Hindu women are also required to wear a veil but it's not enforced at all.

>>127531884
>Nuns
>Don't marry
>Devote themselves to God

>Mudslimettes
>Get raped
>Blow themselves up

No differences at all brah.

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>>127544879
Explain your degeneracy, sandmonkeys!

>>127532199
The muslims typically explode more

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>>127545051
You're fucking filth!

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>>127545148
Yes all Semites are pedophilic freaks who deserve the rope.

>>127531884
Nuns don't get stoned to death

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>>127545232
Why do we allow these people into our countries? How do you defend this leftist Islam apologists?

>>127531884
Nuns choose to be nuns. Women in muslim countries will be raped and publicly executed for not covering themselves.

>>127538525

I would have paid $1000 to see the walking mailbox throw her coffee in his face, while durka durka'ing back at him.

Would be pretty lulzworthy.

>>127542373

That bitch on the right should be stoned for wearing Vans, when she doesn't obviously skate.

>>127542595
How would statistics be useful in the context of interpeting a religious text?

>>127531884
The concept of hijab is absent in Hinduism fuck off

>>127531884
I love them Milkers on the Khazar babe

>>127531884
One sees it as a mortification from conscious sacrifice, the other sees it as religious burden deserving of special treatment.

Nuns do not need solidarity with Muslims, because they are free to take it off and still be Catholic

Why do we argue against the Hijab? It literally oppresses women, It's a good thing. I hate Islam as much as anyone else but women need to be controlled and they seem to love Islam

>>127531884
Ban nuns. There. Fixed.

>>127532808
>The quran doesnt direcly reference battery acid so It has never happened ever.

>>127532342
This is the answer. One is forced to all women in their society, the other is a dress code for the profession of their choosing. See the diff?

>>127546471
I already told you what they mean. You're the one trying to speak for muslims when you're not one yourself. Post statistics and evidence to back it your laughable claims

>>127532199
nuns choose to, and will not really face repercussions for it, nor for stopping

muslims enforce the hijab, and women would face repercussion for stopping, if on the muslim world
non-muslims (specially some years ago) would enforce the removal of the hijab, either for seeing it as a symbol of opression or a symbol of islam, and women might face repercussion

so basically, as long as it isn't used as an argument for enforcing the hijab, it's mostly okay

>>127531884
One on the left isn't imposed by law, where the punishment isn't death if they are caught without the garb. It takes one fucking second to just think about the differences.

>>127531884
choice, you really stupid person

>>127531884
Nuns are part of a religious order. Not all Christian women are forced to wear habits or be nuns. Hell, my grandmother is associated with a convent and she doesn't wear a habit.

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>>127532199
>OP here, I'm asking a legitimate question, i want to be able to argue agaunst this.
...
>2 posts by this ID
Sure.

Anyways, in American culture, women generally wore hats, not scarves. Not really done anymore, but you can see socially conservative African-American communities keeping this tradition alive with the church hats that black women will wear.

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>>127531884
Nuns don't fly planes into buildings. Muzzies are known to do that.

Besides, what nuns do is explicitly NOT a hijab.

And besides that, muzzies do not wear the hijab to devote themselves to god and be modest. They wear it because moehommad blamed his wives and concubines for being raped by his friends.

>>127531884
theyre not oppressed, who the fuck says they are?

>>127532199
your beyond help if you can see the difference without someone pointing it out to you

protip, muslim women aren't "nuns" working in mosques

>>127532448
stoning is for people commit "crimes" of adultery and sodomy(fags) a.k.a you.

What a stupid fucking argument OP. Nuns are not forced to wear that shit everywhere they go.

>>127531884

Nuns won't be raped and dazed with a sulphuric acid when they take off an habit.

>>127531884

It's oppression because they're forced to wear under the threat of violence or death by their community.

>>127532199
You idiot

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All religious people are idiots

Solved.

>>127531884
Hijab is ok
Its that fucking ninja mask the small dick saudis make their women wear.

>>127532199
In the Catholic faith, you are free to wear veils whenever you like. In nuns, its part of their vow to maintain virginity

>>127537358

You understand that they literally protested their rights away in the Iranian Revolution?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Revolution#Women.27s_Role

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A Catholic woman can go her entire life without wearing a veil and be fine.
A Muslim woman may be punished for not wearing a hijab.

>>127533797
>>127537358
>implying this represents the majority of the women
kek

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>>127536960
Funny thing about suggestions, people sometimes follow them against better judgment. Especially if it is part of their faith and written in the book they consider as a manual on how to live ones life.

>>127553264
and christianity is a joke today

>>127553772
Hijab is only mandatory when praying and when inside a mosque.
Outside of that it is voluntary, but you get bonus points with god for wearing it so its encouraged.

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>>127531884
the nun chooses to cover herself, the mudslime doesn't.
pic related: your argument furthers dissent among we/me/you - the subjugated allowing us to be easily ruled. The culture war is fabricated.

>>127531884
The other's are allowed to vote and drive in a country that is majority their religion

I wanna fuck that 2d Catholic girl

>>127531884
i dont dislike islam because of the hijab though
i dislike it because it drives arabs and other mongrels to go into our lands

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>>127531884
christcucks cant argue against hijabs. The mother of their fucking god was wearing one.

>>127532199


In every instance it is voluntary in the case of a nun.

>>127537467
Hell yes based algerian /r9k/ poster.

>>127554662


That's not a photo, my differently abled friend.

>>127531884
I think there both a couple of dip shits.

>>127532199
Real argument is because we don't want their retard tier death cult in our countries and banning the hijab would be an easy way to tell them to fuck off through the flower.

Socially acceptable argument is that wearing the veil is entirely optional in Christianity, these women decided they wanted to join a covenant on their own and they are also free to leave at any time without repercussion.

>>127546535
Rajasthani women are extremely particular about covering their faces in front of male elders or strangers. Granted it's nowhere close to a hijab and some of them choose not towear it, it's easy to see how fools on the internet think it's a hijab.

>>127556114
Do they wipe with it?

>>127531884
>Orthodox Jew is objectively the cutest
Clearly the merchants are behind this.

>>127556277
If you want my comeback mate, you can *wipe* it off your mum's face ;)

*spins 360 degrees and moonwalks away*

No one forces Christians to wear a headscarf. Try going to Saudi Arabia as a woman without a hijab and see if you survive.

>>127532199
Say a nun wants to stop being a nun. What happens is - she stops being a nun and doesn't have to do the penguin impersonation anymore. There are organizations that help her adjust to normal life, she might still attend religious services.

Say a nun wants to stop being a muslim. What happens is - she becomes the bane of her family, an apostate and she deserves death. There are organizations that help her get stoned.

So the difference is - the highest sacrifice of Christian faith is compared to the default of Muslim faith and the highest sacrifice is still voluntary.

>>127536960
>>127536327
>>127535512
>>127535241
>>127534269
>>127533050
>>127532808
We're reaching levels of BTFO that shouldn't even be possible.

>>127531884
If you want to know.whybthe hijab is a symbol of oppression, you'll have to ask Mohammed.

>>127554065
>Hijab is only mandatory when praying and when inside a mosque
So they are forced to wear it.

Should they ever want to exercise choice and leave the Islamic faith, the punishment for apostasy is death.

All religion is retarded, but Christianity hasnt really produced holy warriors for centuries now, while Islam still does en masse.

Christianity was meant to make slaves out of goys, Islam to make soldiers.

>>127531884
>people do one retarded thing, so you should have no problem with them doing another retarded thing!

That's like saying it's OK to eat glue because other people do heroin. Besides, nuns are do archaic in the West that you could go your whole life without seeing one. I could lean out the fucking window and see more Islamic extremists than I've ever seen nuns. Now turn that around for the Middle East. How many nuns do you see walking around, there? What's that? None? Huh, guess we really DO have a point when we complain about immigration...

>>127557922
>the actions of the religious do not matter, because those actions are not supported by the book

This is far and away the most retarded way to excuse the misbehaviour of religious extremists. It's the No True Scotsman argument taken to its most idiotic conclusion.

Without the believers, a faith does not exist. The actions of the faithful define a religion, not the material they base their actions on.

>>127531884

Nuns choose

Mooslims are forced to

>>127531884
A nun can remove her headscarf and walk outside with her head uncovered in a Western country if she wants. Any woman can do this without fearing prosecution. In a Muslim country, however...

>>127531884
Why is the nun one the only one that looks nice?

It seems like the only one thats actually an outfit, whereas the others are just a rag thrown over your head

>>127531884
You can't really argue against fact just being stated.
Also, one is a submissive and loving wife, the other is a sexually dysfunctional woman holding her fertile years from benefiting you societies.

>>127531884
>pol how do you argue against this?
>>>
Only the muslim girl is forced to wear it, or be stoned, acid washed or raped.

>>127531884
They're both equally as stupid. Christianity is rapidly going away in western society so trying find arguments for why it's not as retarded as Islamic faith is a losing battle.

>>127563435
Fuck off Schlomo

>>127532442
>Nobody forces a woman to become a nun
What part of history do you live in? Cause it's not between now and ~800ad.

>>127531884
Nun is thinking man fetish

Islam and anything related to it is not

>>127531884
Difference is a nun chooses to do so a woman in a islamist nation does not. I don't see anything that is wrong with a hijab if they have the choice of wearing it or not though.

>>127563505
15% non religious in the 2001 UK national census.
25% non religious in the 2011 UK national census.
Want to take bets for 2021?

Wake up you muggle.

>>127553918
not an argument

>>127563736
You shouldn't be celebrating the death of our culture you cunt

>>127531884

All clerics decide to become brainwased because of X or Y. They embrace ideological impositions and lifestyle, so is not really "opression" since they choose it.

In the other part muslim, or pretty much any women living in a traditional context are opressed because of the latent moral values in their societies.

>>127531884
Nuns choose to devote their lives to God.

Women in Islamic countries get stoned if they don't comply.

>>127531884
Catholics aren't bombing Ariana Grande concerts. Your argument is destroyed.

How many Nuns get stoned to death for taking it off?

>>127552337
Nice proxy, fellow burger.

>>127563890
DING DING DING

>>127563736
I would say 4% non religious by that time as it will be an Islamic Caliphate

>>127563854
What a culture where many of our practices mirror that of shit skins?

Our god is the one true god right, but theirs is just some jokes, beacuse reasons.
Our nuns can wear headscarfs because reasons,but theirs can't because reasons.

You're not as bad as them for supporting idiotic religion, but you're pretty close. It's all going away in the west, the break down of non-religious belief in the national census clearly shows the most religious aspect of our culture is the 65+ and then it dies away as age goes down, which means we can accurately predict the outcome of future censuses as the old people pass away and new children are born who are less religion on average.

It's over, anyone who can read basic numbers off a piece of paper, and who can add up (I hope you can add and subtract) knows that it's over, it's done.

If your arguments rely on b-but m-muh Christianity, you've lost. Join the rest of the enlightened secular world.

>>127531884
>religious argument

Begin by addressing purpose:
>What is the purpose?

At this point it becomes clear that it's fucking stupid, but it also becomes clear that people are free to act stupidly.

The answer is pretty clear: People are free to do what they want, but if it encroaches on anyone else's freedom of expression it becomes illegal.

>>127542373
>Muslims do things because of the law
Have you even heard about Islam?

>>127543872
She looks like a shitty glamour photoshop, without the editing
>makeup

>>127564250
Not even going to bother to read this bullshit you fucking atheist marxist faggot

>>127531884
>islam

>>127563736
I do : 5% non religious, 5% Christians, 35% Hindu, 55% Muslims.

>>127532199

>christian nun
>voluntarily choose a life of celibacy you can leave at any time
>christians will show you extra respect for doing this
>you get special privileges and donations from society

>muslim woman
>get raped and murdered if you go outside without a veil, because it says so in the holy book to do this
>can't leave the house without a male relative escort
>have to obey husband
>husband can decide to "temporarily dissolve the marriage" and have his friends "temporarily marry you" for sex purposes
>slavery is allowed under Islamic law
>forced marriage is mandatory in case of rape

Yeah, sure, sounds like the same thing. I bet you think taxation is the same as buying the latest iPhone too.

>>127531884
Nun: i want to take this off

Community: well i dont agree, and i find it disrespectful, but okay.

Muslim: i want to take this off.

Community: *burns her alive*

Thats the difference.

>>127531884
I don't fuck nuns

Nuns chose to wear the veil, regular christian girls don't wear the veil because they choose not to, and because there are no consequences of not wearing one.

Whether a Muslim girls wants to or not doesn't matter, if they DONT, they are rejected by their community, and in some countries stoned to death.

So they're free to think they're free for wearing it. But it's a completely different matter once it's taken off, if someone wishes to do so.

>>127543872

Make-up is Haram, in a muslim country she would be stoned to death.

>>127564364
Just gonna throw this out there - fuck, you're stupid. Marxism/Communism is the glue that holds society together. Think police force, firefighters and EMT. Even larger, think military.

You wanna tell those people to fuck off? You're a god damned inbred Appalachian fuckwit.

>>127564250
You forget that religion isn't something you're born with. Many people get older and find religion - it isn't something that will "die out".

Honestly I can't. Burka ban is completely retarded and promoted by politicians who want to get votes from retarded right wingers. You can't ban Islam. It's just not possible. And the more you oppress Muslims, the more radical they will get. The only solution is that Muslims move back to Islamic nations and live there under their own rules.

>>127531884
the jew is really cute tbqhfam

>>127531884
not this shit again

>>127531884
Nuns volunteer and most of the women who try to become one get rejected.
Hijabis don't have a choice and they get punished for misbehaving.

Apple, meet pear.

>>127564364
Hatefacts eh?
And you call me the Marxist, listen to yourself.

>>127564442
Ecks Dee, seriously go and look at the muslim population growth, it's outstripped by atheist growth by about an order of magnitude.

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>>127564760
>Marxism/Communism is the glue that holds society together

>>127564832
>The only solution is that Muslims move back to Islamic nations and live there under their own rules.
wow thats a pretty right wing view are u a nazi hans?

>>127531884
A nun isn't a normal person, but someone who will die in monastery.
Mudslime Fatmas are just perma pregnant roaches.

>>127531884
If any of those girls tried to take it off, I wonder which one would get stoned/burned alive/whiplashed/etc.

Nuns are servants of our God, our religion

Muslim ninjas are not
It's not a matter of voluntary or involuntary

>>127531884
Threadly reminder that Islam is not a religion. Don't fall for deception tactics.

>>127564760
>You forget that religion isn't something you're born with. Many people get older and find religion - it isn't something that will "die out".
That's not what the evidence states, the national census in the UK shows all age brackets becoming significantly less religious.

It's over, you've just not admitted it to yourself yet, by 2050 Christianity will a minority in the UK.

>>127564970
N-no o-of c-course not. It wouldn't even be possible since it is forbidden you dummy.

>>127531884
You've already committed a mistake by agreeing to talk about hijabs.

You should be talking about
>trucks of peace
>Christians being slaughtered
>the percentage of mosques that function as terrorism recruitment centers
>clear instructions to wage war agaisnt infidels and to kill apostates
>rape
>full time job holders among immigrants

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>>127531884
>>127532199

Am I a Catholic? No.

Am I an Orthodox? No.

Am I a Muslim? No.

Am I a Jew? No.

So fuck your desert submission cults.

>>127531884
>>127532199
being a nun is a choice, muslims doesnt have a choice.

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>>127531884
Being (or dressing like) a nun is not the default expectation from women in Western nations, retard.

>>127553140
No, it isn't.

Nuns choose to Muslim women don't

>>127532808
Habeebe 10:17

>>127565199
Everyone in the west is

>>127531884
A nun----> woman from western civilization
A mudslim----->subhuman from subhuman civilization

I dont give a shit about mudslim traditions but if you are a true mudslim you must live in mudslim countries. Europe is a christian continent. So respect our traditions or GTFO shitskin.

>>127565109
I live in America, so fuck all about the UK.

Religion isn't going to die out - I stand by those words. It will regress, but it will remain.

The nature of religion will forever be founded in the unknown, and so long as there is unknown, it will remain. If you can envision a world where all variables are known - that it the world in which religion will be extinct.

>>127564945
Memes. How do they work?
Still, you pay taxes. You're contributing to a principle that is at the heart of communism.
>Everyone pays

>>127565476
>taxes are communism
I fucking hate americans

>>127531884
A nun is a specific person in Christianity. It's kind of like saying the Pope wears a hat, so it's fine for every Sikh to wear a turban. Identifying one rare person/ role in Christianity does not equate to hundreds of millions of people being expected to wear a headscarf, usually under threat of criminal sanction/husband beating if you don't.

>>127565440
>Europe is a christian continent
not anymore kek
>So respect our traditions
Your traditions based on a jewish religion?

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>>127565572
The real core behind both taxes and communism is a disdain for property rights, authoritarianism and sheer entitlement. Taxes = communism lite.

>>127531884
I think nuns are crazy.

>>127531884
>>127532199
Protestants don't wear that gay shit now gtfo

>>127565712
The real core behind both communism and disdain for taxes is opposition to the concept of duty and fetishisation of the concept of rights

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>>127564944
>seriously go and look at the muslim population growth, it's outstripped by atheist growth by about an order of magnitude.

>implying the muslims won't just kill the infidel atheists or force them to convert when they become the majority

Oh you....

>>127565476
America is following the same trend as the UK, just FYI. All western nations with high GDP and good education have atheism as the fastest growing demographic. That includes America and most of Europe.

>>127532808
it's not in the Quran but it's a tradition thing

>>127565669
You pagan fairies are seriously getting unbearable, please learn to calm your 'tism

>>127565572
You can hate Americans - we will still continue to produce the Future. We are the dreamers of dreams, and you can hate that as much as you want. We will still tell you what media to ingest, what electronics to build and what the "latest trends" are.

Your populous will continue to pray at our feet, and there is nothing you can do about that.

>>127565204
Epic

Epic for tha win

*turns Cradle of Filth loud enough for mom to hear*

>>127565669
Actually most of the bible comes from Greek philosophy (can't remember where I read that)

>>127566048
If by "the Future" you mean progressivism, liberalisation and globalisation then you're wrong, america will be stopped, Europe demands it

>>127565826
But Muslims won't become a majority, it's not born out in the data. The only place where Muslims are on the incline is outside of western society.

And the moment they step out of line we'll rain nuclear fire down on them from a safe distance, because secularism and reliance and undstanding of science allows us to create WMDs where as inbred muslims don't have a population with an IQ high enough to actually compete on the global stage.

>>127566048
>We are the dreamers of dreams, and you can hate that as much as you want. We will still tell you what media to ingest, what electronics to build and what the "latest trends" are.
>We
>(((We)))
>*hands rubbing*

>>127566048
>we will still continue to produce the Future
K E K
E
K

The amerilard Empire is dying, and most of you can't even see it. It will be hilarious to see burgers as dumb as you getting dragged into the streets by Jamal and Tyrone and yet you will still expect your government to help you.

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>>127531884
They're completely right. All desert religions and everyone who supports them deserve to be exterminated.

>>127531884
how many nuns do you see? if thats really how devoted the average muslim woman is, thats pretty scary considering how cancerous islam is

>>127531884
Being a nun is a choice.
Wearing a hijab is a commandment.

>>127563516
If they don't want to be a nun anymore, they can just quit without being killed

>>127538525
>Be Ameritard
>Lie on the internet
>Anecdotal Evidence

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>>127566181
Muslims don't need to outbreed everyone, just whites. Or do you think blacks can run a country?

You sold your birthright for a bowl of soup, only to learn there was piss in it, yet look at you eating it anyway.

>>127531884
nuns don't bomb people?

islam is cancer and people who follow it spread cancer.

>>127531884
The nuns head covering is, IIRC, to prevent further virgin births through the ear. It's also the designated uniform for a nun.
The muslim head scarf on the other hand is based on the sexist notion that women wouldn't be safe against the sexual desires of men without them. IIRC they are also nowhere mentioned in the Quran but have their origin from the hadiths which are basically glorified gossip.

The nun vs hijab argument is as vapid as a beekeper vs hijab one seeing as the reasons behind the get ups are completely different.

>>127565204
Looks like nobody gives a shit for what you are faggot

>>127566560
>be mudshit Saudi
>use taqqiya
>support terrorism

AYY LMAO

Nuns don't wear explosive devices.

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>>127563516

>all women in Christendom were forced to be celibate their entire lives since 800 AD

You must be the newest level of retard

>>127539910
>a woman can own slaves but can't refuse to wear a headscarf without getting acid thrown in her face.
Well then

>>127531884
nuns dont wear that all day every day only in church

>>127566155
Good luck.

>>127566228
Oh it's dying? Have you seen our corps for space development? Are you using the "Internet" at this very moment? How obtuse do you have to be to ignore what is right in front of you.

Do I have to type ".co.us" when I visit a website? You're delusional.

>>127531884

Women should be dressed however their father or husband chooses to dress them, not that complicated.

>>127532808
page 348

>>127531884
Here's a quick step-by-step rundown on how to argue against that:

>step 1: know what a nun is

Done.

>>127531884
very easily, being a nun is a personal choice and the clothing traditional

the hijab is actually pretty recent compared to the nuns clothing and was added by ruling men specifically to oppress and control women

>>127532808
It comes from when the first caliphate conquered the Persians. The Persians were the ones who first forced women to wear a covering.

>>127535163
>old testament
>christianity

Pick one.

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>>127565810
>opposition to the concept of duty
Unless you're claiming that people have a duty to subject themselves to your delusional arbitrary whims, this is a total non-sequitur. Forcing people to pay for your shit at gunpoint (and training them to use this method to gain things from others through voting) isn't conductive to dutifulness. Your retarded concept of duty is based on entitlement and authoritarianism.

>fetishisation of the concept of rights
That's a retarded authoritarian thing to say. You've literally confirmed my point with your response. Thanks for playing, commie trash.

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>>127533050

>>127567380
news flash: the old testament is also part of the christian faith and the bible.

>>127566982
>How obtuse do you have to be to ignore what is right in front of you.

Oh wait, I forgot, burgers cannot into history.

I suggest you google "The Fate of Empires" by Sir John Baget Glubb. i think you will find many, many examples that fit perfectly with US society and world civilization in general. It's only 25 pages, so it should even fit your attention span.

Or just look at how Rome declined. Same parallels. They reached peaks of architecture even as their society was crumbling around them. The modern barbarians are the niggers and mudshits.

>>127531884

> Not understanding the difference between consent and forcing someone to do something

>>127567388
>authoritarianism is communism
Nice try you fucking anarchist bitch
>I don't want to pay my fair share! I can do what I want!
You belong to your community

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>>127566299
Pic related, what you're probably wearing right now

>>127567513
TBQH, christians don't actually follow the OT unless it's crazies like the Westboro Baptist Church types.
I've yet to see a muslim who did not at least nominally follow the koran.

>>127567513
It's there for reference at best. Jesus directly contradicts it numerous times.

Guess what the "Christ" in "Christianity" refers to.
Protip: it's the guy who isn't featured in the OT, but is the main protagonist in the NT.

>>127567062
KEK

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>>127535163
This only applies to an "army of god." Such an army hasn't existed since the first temple period. This was a sort of compromise made between God and Israel. This scenario is the only time its ok for a Jew to marry a non-Jew, and there's a whole list of conditions she would have to meet before she was ready to marry (as opposed to widespread rape and prostitution).

>>127532507
I wouldn't do it because I'm not a fucking animal. Kill yourself.

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>>127567636
you moron, authoritarianism is not always communism but communism is by default always authoritarian, its designed like that down to the damned core.

The whole idea is that the state should control as many aspects of peoples life as possible because the state knows better than you, that is the basic idea, and that is authoritarian.

please explain how you can give all power to one entity, the state, and not have it be authoritarian?

pic related, the lefts tolerance clearly visible.