But muh womyns

it's wrong to assume they want your money, just your love and affection.

Trap them how? Isn't child support like $800 a year? Can't a rich guy afford that? It's not like alimony is it? The bitch can't claim your house and half your money right?

>>127508171
Wrong.

>>127508171
>isn't child support like $800 a year
You're retarded. It's based on your income. They just talk a huge % of your pay and give it to the whore you fucked.

>>127508279
Den enlighten me. What's a gold digger owed for having a man's child?

>Degenerate men are literally castrating themselves so they can fuck more STD-ridden whores.

>>127508171

It's dependent on your wage, the richer you are, the more you pay

You aren't paying to help the child or the mother, you're paying to emulate their lifestyle with you

>>127508361
It varies from state to state and case to case but generally it's a large % of your monthly income.

>>127508530
/thread

>>127508530

>breeding some qt girls
>freezing a bunch of sperm
>castrating yourself and living life to its fullest and railing some sluts with no chance of them stealing your money

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Looks like it's gonna hurt muh trans womyn

>>127507920
??? Don't you need to have at least one kid to have a Vasectomy? I mean I suppose you can have your swimmers frozen but that costs a heck of a lot of money.

>>127508361
Charlie sheen pays $55,000 a month in child support. Eddie Murphy pays $60,000 a month in child support.. there's a long list of shit like this.

>>127508171

Brendan Fraiser had to pay his wide almost $100k a year in child support. He had to go into bankruptcy.

>>127508701
You call THAT living life to its fullest?

I pity you

>>127508800
A lot of doctors don't like to preform the operation if you don't have kids. However, rich goys can find a doctor who will do it in the U.S. easily.

>>127509053

t. virgin

>>127508881
Yeah but that's after they are married. I'm looking online and it seems like your on the hook for 26k max plus any medical expense or special needs shit.

26k is still alot but for a rich guy I don't think it warrants getting fixed.

>>127508761
Pretty sure dudes getting snipped can be undone.

>>127508761
You can easily revers a vasectomy and they keep your sperm on ice. You can not revers a hysterectomy.

>>127508701
Nah.

The only thing women will be able to do is to urge urologists to refuse men from getting one.

>>127509233
>medical expenses
>Special needs shit

You have no idea how imaginative these kike lawyers can be once they smell blood in the water.

>>127509233
Those are the child support payments.. they pay far more in total. That's just the amount they'd pay if they popped a baby out with some whore who takes them to court. Charlie pays nearly 125k a month total to his wife.

>>127508315
No he doesnt pay the whore. Thats alimony, Child support is a legitimate right, only a nigger wouldnt want to pay child support for his own children

Wealthy families are becoming genetic dead ends cause their sons can't stop fucking whores

>>127508761
>WAHHHH WHY WON'T A DOCTOR JUST PERMANENTLY REMOVE MY UTERUS
>MEN CAN GET A TUBE CUT (and then re-attached at a later date if they want kids)

>>127509233
26K a year is more than getting snipped and iced

>>127509522
>Mother given full custody
>You pay for it

No thanks. Totally rational behavior to not pay for something you never see.

>>127509522
In America and Canada, they can make you pay child support even if the kid isn't yours.

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>>127507920
> seriously considering doing this myself
I just can't resist the sideways pussy

>>127509522
You're retarded if you think any amount of child support is actually spend on the children

>>127509522
Define, "legitimate right," please.

>>127508530
>American complaining about castration when it has become a custom to let the Jews castrate all your son's at birth for "aesthetics"

>>127509772
NOW THAT'S KEKOLDING

>>127509522
Think back to some ex or some girl you fucked that ended up being a total fucking whore. Now imagine having a half whore child with her. Now imagine giving a majority of your income to her so she can live it up whilst you live in squalor and you don't even get to see your half whore kids.

>>127509271
You cannot easily reverse a vasectomy, you need to cut the cauterized part of the tube or both healed ends then stitch them together which isn't exactly straight forward, plus there is always the chance the tube leading to your penis collapsed after the procedure in which case there is nothing that can be done.

As to freezing the sperm, like I said before its prohibitively expensive, the produre involves flash freezing the sperm so there is no crystals, then keeping them at cryogenic temperatures in a hermetically sealed canister which in itself isn't cheap since we aren't talking fridge cold, we are talking just above liquid nitrogen cold. Any warmer and the sperm could degrade if stored longer than a year.

>>127509772
It's why you need to have your kid paternity tested at birth. Just to make sure your woman wasn't being a roastie. She probably was.

>>127509930
>muh FORESKIN!!!!!
Stop whining, pussy.

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>>127509522
If she can't find a good man to be with she doesn't deserve his money, it's sad for the kid but it's the mother's fault for fucking indiscriminately and not choosing a good father. Can't eat your cake and have it too.

>>127507920
Good, no child should be exposed to that kind of money or immorality. These are the types of parents that create an atmosphere of affluenza in the home.

Like any of us need another Ethan Couch driving around.

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>>127508171

>you really that stupid?

If you're a rich casual you're gonna be paying 30k monthly alimony for 20 years, ever see those stupid rappers like 50 cent. That retard payed close to 1.4million to his first baby mama, now he's got a second one with 17 years of debt left.

>Divorces are known to have taken even more then 50% of a rich man's assets.

Getting the snip is the easiest way to prevent gold digging child support.

>>127508171
I know men who pay that a month.

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>>127507920
This debate thing.....WHY IS THIS EVEN A QUESTION????

>>127509901
when the child support order is $6k/month because she fucked a rich guy and had his kid, she's moving into a nicer place, getting a nice car, etc. For the child, of course

>>127509938
Sad but true.
https://youtu.be/Tcng4ccVlVI

>>127510186
>It's why you need to have your kid paternity tested at birth.
Doesn't matter. They'll go "best interest of the child" and make you pay for it, even if it isn't yours.

Hell, they made some 15 year old pay child support despite being raped by his teacher twice his age.

>>127509522
Too many silly "hurr-durr too bad shes a whore" responses to respond to, ill respond here, if you have a kid with afore-mentioned whore, its still your offspring and you are still responsible to pay for your children to survive and their expenses regardlss of whether you have full custody or not, too bad, you were an adult making a decision when you fucked the woman, youre also responsible for your actions, or youre a nigger

>>127510116
Excellent explanation. Thanks. If I were they, I would just fucking abstain or be patient for the right woman if she's even out there.

They risk STDs from fucking whores anyway.

>>127509913
legitimate means according to the law you illiterate fuck.

>>127510762
There is no law above God's law

>>127510193
Kys mentally ill tranny

>>127510531
Every case I've seen of "best interest of the child" is when he was the father for at least a year already. You can't delay the paternity test.

As far as the 15 year old goes, yeah he's technically the father. The state should be paying for the child with social security in that case, but that's not how it went and is absolute horseshit.

>>127510884
God was created by man as were our laws (even the 'laws' of the universe) therefore there is no law above mans law

>>127508171
>Isn't child support like $800 a year?

How is it even possible to be this ignorant? Stupidity must surely be a factor.

>>127510531
that's only true if you're married to her or already had a kid with her and then she has some other guy's baby.

If you're just some guy and can prove it's not your kid with dna, you wash your hands of the situation

>>127508555
>you're paying to emulate their lifestyle with you
Severely underrated post leaf and nice digits

>>127507920
Your not giving them children when they want them... simple.

>>127508171
in this blue fucked up state of Washington they can take up to 65% of your paycheck.

>>127508171
I know e5's in the military who pay 600 a month...

>>127507920
It's rape to sleep with women under the false pretense that you're potent.

>>127507920
If women can abort a child without the man's permission then a man should be able to financially "abort" a child by forfeiting all rights to claim fatherhood in exchange for never having to pay a dime for the kid.

It's only fair.

>>127508068
>it's wrong to assume they want your money, just your love and affection.
So tinder failed for you, eh? Women do want to be protected. Funny how on the tv they follow like a cult, they set them up for failure and to make fetishes out of the worst types of people who they can't gold dig from anyway since they either don't have jobs, in jail, or have AIDS. Not my prob at least.

>>127510884
you asked what legitimate means. I did not question you points, just your intelligence.

>>127508171
>alimony
Vagina-mony directly throws your 14th Amendment right in the garbage but as usual, with anything law, civil, family, and sometimes criminal they'll do what ever they want anyway unless you can bribe a lawyer who then bribes the drunk judge for you.
Justice is not law unfortunately

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>>127507920

For those that want to read the article:

tldr:

>bunch of 32-45 year old males that make $500k+/year want to fuck models in the summer in their $1.5 mil beach houses
>Reverse vasectomies have a 50% success rate
>Freeze sperm, article excludes cost.
>bitches have tried to extort them, take off condoms, inject sperm from used condoms
>Child support is 17% of the father’s salary up to $400,000, after which the amount is at a judge’s discretion. For someone who makes $1 million a year...a total of $2.1 million until the child turns 21.

>>127507920
>How will this be spun into hurting women?
More like who gives a fuck? That's what happens when you try to play games with people superior to you.

>>127509930
wew

>>127507920
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArF1GytUX-M

>>127507920
It's pretty sad that these guys don't ever know if the girls want them for money or for love.

Thank god I'm an ugly paramedic and already married.

>>127509260
Doesn't always work to try and reverse.

>>127513083
Rich MGTOW

>>127510531
In France it's illegal to ask for a paternity test.

>>127507920
>get a vasectomy goy!
>we dont want any of those White devils running around, do we.

Thank you based merchant for the suggestion! I will take two please.

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>>127507920
Artificial wombs and sexbots will make the female gender completely obsolete.

I just made my last child support payment. Mother moved out of state with daughter when daughter was one year old. She was a whore beast. Couldn't keep a stable job and when she was employed, she made shit for money.

Initial child support was $400/month when i was 18 and making $12/hr. As I worked my fucking ass off, I now make 145k per year, my last child support payment I made in May was for $1770.

I estimate I paid just over $240,000 in total over the course of 18 years...almost a quarter of a million dollars to this cunt. My daughter never saw a dime of it.

In 18 years my money bought this dirty twat 7 brand new cars...the latest is a BMW 3 series, countless amounts of jewelry, and a massive wardrobe to cover her ever expanding hambeast ass. She hasn't worked in 3 years.

She was supposed to save a percentage for a portion of my daughters college; bitch spent every tax-free fucking penny.


"Isn't it just 800 a year?"...fuck off you dumb cunt.

>>127510252
fuck man, I didn't come here for feels.

>>127514154
Yes. If I ever got rich I'd keep it a secret per romcom tradition.

>>127511210
untrue
if you cohabit with them for 6 months, you are legally married
and if you "take a fatherly role", you are forced as well

>>127515411
No, it won't, why would it?
It would make you betas finally shut up and die off with some dignity. Nobody but a complete faggot will ever want to fuck a robot instead of a real women.

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>>127516326
>land of the free

>>127510116
>hampton bachelors
>prohibitively expensive to freeze sperm
>article title

they can afford it

>>127516326

Thats an average of $13,300 a year. Thats NOT 3 series money, thats POVERTY.

Even in the last 3 years she didnt work thats only $21,240 a year which is also considered poor.

I dont know the full situation, but I do KNOW that the BMW finance manager will tell her to take a hike with 21K a year.

Plus,child support is taxable income so she didnt receive the full payment, provided she did her taxes.

I hate the concept of child support as its easily abused but your daughter by the fact that she lived with her mother had to of benefited from it. A roof over her head, food, cell phone, clothes, etc....

I dont see how she was living like a queen unless she was living rent free somewhere and was also on every form of government benefit.

I can see how one might work the system but that aint luxury lifestyle money. Not over 18 years.

>>127516607
thats only in canada

that law also differs from state to state

Don't get vasectomies its a gay plot to kill off heterosexuals

>>127509233
People don't get wealthy by scoffing at 5 figure expenses

>>127513083
>open relationship

I don't care how handsome you are, nothing is worse than being a cuck

>millionaires paying alimony

Literally why?

Surely they can just pay to have them killed and it will save them a fortune.

>>127513083
Fuck, they're all degenerates
My sympathy for men who want to sleep around without consequences is zero. Stacey and Chad need each other to exist to be the way they are.

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>>127507920
This is what is killing this country. Smart people are refusing to have kids. Dumb people are popping them out like crazy. Got a whole generations of morons on the way.

I mean they can always have sperm frozen, and it's not impossible to reverse vasectomies.

>>127507920
they're trying to pretend that it's the new trendy thing to do for affluent white men to sterilise themselves

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>>127507920
>oy goy cut your balls off!

>>127510252
Women suck at everything. Kill women.

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>>127508171
whoa whoa whoa! how can you be this stupid? do you live in a basement for real? I had a friend, his name was peter, his wife left him, he didn't do anything bad, and the state ordered him to pay 1,200$ a month for child support, even though he only made 35,000$ a year, he slept in his car.

>>127508171
>>127508171

I'm a student and I pay 250 a month.

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>>127515176
" French court orders paternity test over Rachida Dati child"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9721729/French-court-orders-paternity-test-over-Rachida-Dati-child.html

>>127509093

>A lot of doctors don't like to preform the operation if you don't have kids

Fucking why?

>>127508800
Vasectomy's are reversible now days.
All of you stupid fuckin kids in here need to Gass yourselves.
That's the difference between yanking out all of a woman's reproductive organs and clamping tubed on your nut sack.

Don't you kids know anything?

>>127518964
>tfw to intelligent to propagate my genes
>tfw to fit to survive

>>127509901
i paid child support for 8 years, first thing the EX did was buy a brand new car.

>>127516725
Whats going on here? You should be encouraging us to not breed! What the fuck shlomo? Get with the program.

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>>127520026
We have a dysgenic agenda in this country, After all these fucking retards take over. We collapse and end this fucking planet meaning no one has a future. .

>>127510978
Grow up.

>>127519572
because jews probably somewhere down the line.

>>127507920
Poor women. They just want to trap a man divorce him and take half his shit and get alimony the rest of their life. Why are men so misogynistic?

>>127509522
> t. Junkie whore getting high with child support money

>>127519531

And how cost prohibitive is it to go through the process of asking a court to give you the right to find out if you've been cucked or not. And how often do they deny it anyway?

>>127509260
>>127514178

It's not guaranteed but it's pretty high. Success goes down with time and # of reversals.

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>>127509522
>only a nigger wouldnt want to pay child support for his own children

>Read this you fucking retard........ Females are bailing out for child support and government money while men are claiming disability to avoid jail


Using a statistical construct he calls Fishtown — inspired by an actual white, blue-collar neighborhood of the same name in Philadelphia — Murray sorts through demographic data to present a startling picture. Women in Fishtown now routinely have children outside of marriage. Less than a third of its children grow up in households that include both biological parents. The men claim physical disability at astounding rates and are less likely to hold down jobs than in the past. Churchgoing among the white working class has declined, eroding the social capital that organized religion once provided.

Illegitimacy, crime, joblessness — these are not merely the much debated pathologies of a black underclass, Murray finds. They are white people problems too.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/books/review/charles-murray-examines-the-white-working-class-in-coming-apart.html

>>127520816
Please archive sites with a reputation for trash journalism and clickbait. Thank you. Wayne Lambright is a transient homosexual with schizophrenia.

https://archive.is/El1ie <- nytimes.com article

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>>127520834
You don't have to open it. The point is we are all niggers now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vGmMbpxRHQ

>>127520816
Can confirm.
Had to use 3rd wor the of student loan money to stay out of jail.
Got tired of the endless cycle.
Applied for SSDI and veterans benefits.
Unemployed since 2010. Don't plan to work again till 2022 when my son is 18.

>>127516725
Don't you worry, the time will come when you won't even need to look at a real woman to create a family.

Women's nature along with this feminized gynocentric society is a hell-hole for men. You better have the brains to realise that you can get fucked over easily, and yes even in Israel, they will fuck you.

This is a warning and you better heed to it.

>>127510252

god damn, that dude had to swallow the real red pill so late in life. Betrayal by your fucking mother.

that's the point where a man really becomes a man, the moment when he learns he can't trust his mother 100%.

>>127521296
30k om my student loan money*
Fucking auto correct

>>127508530

>(((Hamptons))) bachelors

>>127520834
i love this bot
>>127521102
since 2011 at least we've been hearing about heroin in what were once middle class white communities
they're using the crack epidemic playbook on whites now

>>127517668

These guys might have "breeder" brothers.

This is why you want to have 3-4 sons, if you can afford them.

You need at least 1 of them to become the breeder, pump out the kids in case one of them gets turned queer or promiscuous heterosexual who gets asian and black women pregnant.

>>127508171
It's based on your income not a set amount . If your rich it can be tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands even millions

>>127508530
Lol this

>>127508761
They won't do the hysterectomy cuz the women will sue them once they change their mind after, not because they don't want to

>>127520026
I knew my wife for 10 years before we got our son. I'm 30. I would have waited longer if it wasn't for her begging me to let her become a housewife. I still plan for what would happen if she stabs me in the back. Prenup is a gift.

Remember that if you're in your 30's and get a kid, you're still a pretty young dad. If a girl gets a kid at 30, she's an old mom. You'r market value will only rise after 30 if you have a decent job and your shit together, so don't lose faith if you're 25 and untouched.

>>127509522
>t. gibsmedat

If you don't get a vasectomy she'll have some other guy get her pregnant and claim it's your anyway. Courts don't accept paternity tests anymore because they're sexist

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>>127521522
>epidemic playbook

I don't think you fucking get it, Single mothers are murder factories and broken homes cause people to use drugs to deal with depression. You can have all the drugs in the world legal and ready to use but people won't choose to get wasted and do self destructive activates unless they are looking for an escape from the suffering. You want to do something about the drug epidemic and lower the murder rate you have to fix broken homes. This means you would have to lower the incentive women have to walk away. Females are like children more or less and can't fucking control there impulses. Like mindless retards following a trend and if a father wants to maintain law and order in his household then the woman simply has a bunch of gunned men walk in and take the children with the promise of goodies rewarding her for having a vagina. Think of all the dumb bitches walking around with pussy hats. Seriously, Here is the fucking kicker once they get into this trap of single mother hood and I do what I want because I haz vagaga. They are used up as cheap labor by the marker because the dumb sluts have to work while the men just give up and get wasted on some type of substance. Then the dumb bitches complain about income inequality. The corporations love this shit because they get cheap labor and a bunch of dumb bitches who want to work for nothing. Sure the family is all fucked up and the kids will have a higher chance at becoming criminals but who gives a shit you have all these cheap bitches to hire for pennies on the dollar.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao8L-0nSYzg

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>>127508171
>800 a year
I'm in the great state of ny, and I plan on raping (financially) my ex wife of $1200 a month child support. We even have 50 50 custody. So for all the guys that got wrecked by child support, I'm getting even for ya

>>127522382
Amazing post, you're spot on

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>>127522382
>I don't think you fucking get it
I don't think you fucking get it, newfag
/pol/ knows this already

>>127508171
Nigger detected

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>>127508171

>>127522815
Yeah if /pol/ gets it why does he even need to repeat himself? faggots still can't get it through their thick skulls.

>>127507920
>wants children
>marries man
>1 year later
>"haha I had a vasectomy"
>sues man for misleading her into depriving the woman of her birthright of having a child
>man has to pay for imaginary life support because he would have been theoretically depriving a conceptual child for the last year

>>127523743
Child support, I mean

>>127517427
Obviously doesn't know what he's talking about. She pays no taxes on child support.

>>127523414
Because I am surrounded by incompetence

story of my life

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>>127510231

>>127508530
You can reattach after the fact...it might be the smartest move

>>127508800
You can get Vasectomys reversed so it's not a big deal IMO.

>>127513279
>women superior to men
Wew lad

>>127520416
Get help weirdo

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Okay guys what about this. What rights does a FOREIGN woman have to child support? What if you go to France or Japan and knock up some slut can you be forced to pay child support? Why don't rich guys just fuck off other countries to fuck women and come back?

>>127507920
Or, you could just use condoms.....

>>127508171
Common law marriage. Can't even be homo and have a female housemate. No man is safe.

I read the article, such degeneracy

>>127527773
A foreign court can't mandate a a citizen of another country to pay child support. The us government can also not enforce any judgment against you to pay child support if you live outside of the country, hence why a lot of people here along the border flee to Mexico to avoid paying child support. Downside is the government could garnish your wages.

TLDR a foreign government can't force you to pay anything as long as you are not residing there

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>>127518964