Continuing the discussion on firearm possession in European countries.

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>>127485085

Go on ?

>>127485699

I think that's his point. There is no discussion about guns in the EU. Even if you can own a gun, you sure as shit can't use it to defend yourself without criminal/civil penalties.

>guns = freedom

there

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>>127481966
Sure, if you have your bike and your bike-tools in the car with you, because you went mountain biking, they have no grounds. But cars don't run on bike chains.
So in case of a random DUI or crime checkpoint and they check your car, you might have to look hard for an excuse.

They confiscated a baseball bat of an acquaintance, that he had in the car for self defense. He even had a glove and a ball, to trick them. But the check happened in the early mornings. So even if he would be a player (which is anyhow veeeeery rare here), he was obviously not going for training. Additionally, he got a hefty fine, not sure about an entry in his criminal records.

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>>127486026
Actually no, the purpose of this thread was to dispell that meme that spreads around /pol/ and to prove that you can own firearms as well as use them to defend yourself in many western European countries.

The primary purpose of these threads is to inform and encourage western Europeans to arm themselves though.

>>127486026

Meh, locally ? A criminal judge I have been working as an apprentice at law for has interpreted the law ( Local trumps EU as far as Croatia goes) as Castle Doctrine.

If someone unwanted comes a knockin, we can blast them.
Although 5 shots to the head and 2 in the heart will warrant a cooldown in the jail be it a robbery - attempted murder or not.
As we would say "sve u granici dobrog ukusa" or "all within good taste".

>>127485085
Are you Europeans ready for the gun ban of semi auto rifles ?

>>127486355
Not gonna happen here. The last prosecution of a self defence law resulted in David Cameron (the PM at the time) having to appeal to parliament to regulate or change laws in regards to self defence.

>>127486355

Ain't gonna happen.

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>>127485085
Here here what you need to know about French laws.

And since the one that wrote the EU laws about firearms a few years ago was a French dude, he pretty pied copy-pasta our laws, so our neighbors pretty much have the same laws.

If you have questions, I'm sure I can help.

Also, if you want to talk guns and laws about it, why don't you go to /k/? We know a lot more there.

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original post >>127481142
as I said, most efective legal gun you can buy in Spain is caliber 12 pump action shotgun with 8+ Cartridges.
Rifles in spain can not use proper rifle ammo like 5,56 x 45 NATO and its max magazine is 2+1.
Hand guns or any short easy-to-hide gun is banned

>>127486605
>Also, if you want to talk guns and laws about it, why don't you go to /k/? We know a lot more there.
I prefer /pol/. Plus this is political too. The audience is more right. The majority of people on /k/ are already armed.

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>>127485085
Dear gun enthusiast, for self defense purposes, is there a point to get anything bigger than an MP5?

>>127486026
>burger education

We can use to protect ourselves.
We can literally kill a terrorist on a street.

All fine by law

>>127485699
>That Zastaava M76 in 8mm
Good shit friendo, those go for $2k here. Nice choice.

>>127486857

Get a 357 revolver for teh fuck of it. Ruger GP100

>>127486857
No, get cz-75, best weapon for selfdefense. You do not want to carry something relatively big as mp5 all the time you leave your home.

>>127486857
Mate, especially if you're not trained, for self defense I can only advise a handgun or a .12 shotgun.

Also, if you're going to take something long like a MP5 SMG, take something above 9mm, FFS.

>>127486935

My granpappy left it as a part of my inheritance... Other stuff was m48, papovka and several walther P-38's.

I'm ready for any shit that could come my way except from a drone...

>>127486857
Range, accuracy, rifle rounds are better at dealing with targets behind cover, multiple targets, etc.

>>127487137
We can't open carry.

I see people carrying rifles where I live, but cased and I assume disassembled which is by law. I honestly crave for the day that we can open carry or even conceal carry (legally) in the UK.

>>127486605
donc uniquement category B pour un handgun? and you need to gun at the range often? What happens if some nigger tries to fuck you and you shoot him? No carry right?

>>127486857
Yes, maybe the assailant is wearing body armor. In which case, cartridges greater than 9x19 Nato are warranted.

>>127486857
nope, automatic submachine guns are great for self defense, but they are baned, cuz is not labeled as hunting gun

>>127486889
Czech gun laws are the best in all of Europe, no question. Czech guns are also excellent, love my Skorpion.

>>127487415
You need to be a member of a gun club to hold a FAC or shotgun certificate in the UK. Or atleast it goes same way to helping, if not a straight out requirement since the inspector checks with the gun club. Shooting clays and a passion in firearms is justification enough to own one though.

>>127486228
That image is extremely misleading and the Firearm pictures absolutely don't match the text for them.

Being dishonest is for antigunners because they have no honest positions and lying only makes us lose legitimacy

>>127486355
There will be not right out ban. Not yet. But they are already gonna limiting the ownership by more rules.

If the current changes by the EU are adapted by our government (which they are very keen to do), I would have to give up already half o my guns, if not all.
They talk about 'membership' in a club, which I have never been. I participated in youth shooting course provided by the military, long time ago. Since then, I went always shooting on private ranges.

>>127487220
Bro, my Yugo M48 is easily my favorite bolt action milsurp. I also have a Zastaava M70 with the proper RPK trunnion. You guys make great guns, no question about that.

>>127487676
I didn't make it but it gets the point across. Better than memeing the opposite that none of those weapons are available. Worth noting AK's are legal in .22 calibre too apparently. AR-15s ain't, but we have the M&P 15-22 and HK416 which are modelled after them.

>>127487415
Yes, a short firearm is automatically category B (or A).
You have to shoot several times a year at a range, you have to keep the renewal of your licence every year, you have to have a safe at home, you weapon need to be in the safe, unloaded, locked at all time.

I do not own any Category B weapon since it's basically a lease/rent.

Also, of course, it's illegal to carry. When you go the armorer or the shooting club, the weapon must be in a secure case, unloaded.
And if you happen to shoot someone in a self-defense situation, you better hope he had a gun and shot first.
If not, you are not engaging in a "defense proportional to the offence".

>>127487778

The mil-style guns on the market will be grandfathered in, no new sales will be had.
Containers ( as per the docs how they are called -.-) will be limited to 5.
I don't see a problem buying a few magpul stanag's now for your PE-90's and similar grails.

>>127487628
thanks, but I was thinking about france, it's not the same is it?

>>127486857
Good 556 ammo doesn't over penetrate home walls as much as handgun rounds.

This is exactly why US Police forces are phasing out submachine guns in favor of carbine type rifles in 556.

>>127487778
Don't ever, ever, EVER surrender your firearms. Tell them some bad ammo blew up your favorite rifle and you disposed of it. DO NOT SURRENDER YOUR ARMS.

>>127487947
ok basically useless then, thanks for the confirm
can't even get one in the us as an expat

>>127488055
France and UK are amongst the best and most lenient gun laws in western Europe - which isn't saying much, but we're similar in that regard. Just weighing in on the gun club membership thing. I'm not sure if you had your own land and it passed the inspection phase that that'd be neccersary. It wins points to say you shoot with an experienced shooter too.

>>127488155
Britain created the constitutional right to bear arms after God, and look at us now. I blame the Scottish for causing fear.

>>127488023
This is still a shitty end run around the ban, because then firearms enthusiasts not yet born will not be able to by proper guns when they come of age. FUCK THE EU OLIGARCHS.

>>127488297
>I blame the Scottish
Fucking socialists man, they used to be so fierce. What the fuck happened? Did all of the decent, God fearing Scottish men die at the Somme or something?

>>127486228
what about the magazine? in spain is 2+1 as a maximun

>>127485085
Nice "Fitty"!

>>127488213
>can't even get one in the us as an expat
Not necessarily true, a person in the U.S. on a residence visa can buy guns no problem. A student or worker visa can buy a gun after jumping threw a view hoops. I have sold firearms to both categories at a big box gun store, and they were extremely stringent on ID and qualifications.

>>127487081>>127487137>>127487217>>127487232>>127487426>>127487473>>127488063
Thx for the info, not planning to get any, just curious,
No shitskin menace in the north of Spain jet
Never thought of the wall/soft armour piercing as an important aspect.
I've only used hunting riffles (friends hunters)

>>127488533
Not even that man. In the 1800s the right to bear arms was enforced from the Bill of Rights 1689. But the Scots caused a bunch of hysteria and fear of rebellion, causing redcoats to raid a bunch of Scottish towns. There's museums there now, of rifles that weren't found and confiscated by the British. This was the beginning of the end of Britain's right to bear arms. The Tottenham outrage in 1908 toppled with both world wars got rid of that right entirely. Gun culture survived well into the 1950s in Britain, the very last shitty remnants of it can still be found in parts of the English countryside today. Thankful enough to say I live in one.

>>127488155
Actuallyyyyy, the other day I went on a boating trip. ...aaand by accident all my guns fell into the water. Don't remember exactly which lake it was and where, because the sun was shining so hot. ;-)

>>127488354
>because then firearms enthusiasts not yet born will not be able to by proper guns when they come of age

That's how gun grabbers do it. They destroy the gun culture by diminishing the percent of the population with skin in the game. If you lose your gun culture, you will eventually lose your gun rights. They make owning and operating firearms such a chore by burying it under layers of bureaucracy and uncertainty that only the most committed bother to unravel everything one needs to know to be a part of the gun owning community.

Truly, the best thing pro-gun Europeans can do is to get friends and family involved in shooting. Countries with gun cultures (America, Switzerland, etc.) manage to retain their gun rights. The more people with skin in the game, the stronger your gun culture will be. Out of that, advocacy groups will arise and politicians will begin to see incentives in pandering to gun owners.

>>127488854
ah good to know, thanks, I'm on a J1 currently so probably won't work but if I come back I might be able to then

>>127488023
I do not posses a PE-90 anymore, and I was reading about very strikt rules regarding magazines. I would have to read about that again.
Nonetheless, look at Commiefornia. Do you really belief they gonna stop at this point?
Wait until the shitskins continue to shoot around with their AKs and they will come down with new rules. It will never stop, unless they are stopped.

>>127489260
People in Britain, even on /pol/, don't always believe me when I tell them what firearms they (potentially) have access to legally. British media has completely eradicated the subject as a reasonable point of view, hate to say it but mostly based on faulty reporting of US news which fits their agenda (you'll never hear of self defence cases involving guns in the US though). It's taboo in most areas, not to own guns necessarily, but to encourage ownership of a gun & for sports and what not, self defence doesn't even cross their mind.

>>127488571
There are no magazine restrictions on a shotgun certificate. Not sure about the FAC but seems unlikely. You need to set your purchases out until the 5 year renewal and afterwards too though, and this is before hand.

>>127486605
What happened in 1995 that caused them to change the laws regarding firearms?

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>>127485085

>>127487844
>>>127487676 (You) #
>I didn't make it but it gets the point across. Better than memeing the opposite that none of those weapons are available.
No anon it's better to spread the truth and not be a lying cunt like antigunners have to be.

>>127490561
It's spreading more truth when everything that surrounds western European gun laws is a falsehood & again I didn't make it but it illustrates the point I was making in text. Whomever did should not have included the AR-15, but the rest is standard.

>>127490561
I also can't edit for shit so throw a HK416 over the top of it if it bothers you so much.

>>127486605
By "restricted to civilians" it meant personal property, as in an army general cannot own one personally?

>>127489922
I bet it was caused by the Schengen agreement. The same thing that brought us all those shitty gunlaws and regulations.

We had burger tier gunlaws until 1998. We did not even have a federal law, and in my state I was allowed to carry my gun concealed. SBR was (and still is) unknown to us and full auto was just a question of price. :-(

>>127491408
It means civilians cannot legally own one.
You have to be law enforcement or military.

The EU must be destroyed. They're behind mass migration, islamization, gun grabbing and every other type of kikery. God I can't describe my hatred for these marxists. They all deserve execution.

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rate my rifle /pol/

>>127492244
nice. what do you use it for? i assume like in the UK you need to pretend it isn't primarily for self defence.

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>>127492635
I hunt boars and deers with it, I have better stuff for self defence.

>>127492244

Not bad. Scope is crap and hindering the rifle a bit, lovely classic fiddleback monte carlo. The wood has potential to be much more beautiful than it is.

>>127488946
Godspeed fellow patriot, though we are patriots of different nations I respect your vigor in upholding our natural right to bear arms. Keep them safe, make them secret if need be. No government agent may strip you of the rights God gave to you.

>>127493041
How often do you replace the cartridges, anon?
Assuming you keep them in 24/7, that is.

I always worry about them taking humidity and the powder not igniting when I need it to.

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>>127493061
got the rifle with the scope for very cheap ; 270 euros. It's in 7x64 meme caliber but pretty common in Europe.

>>127493041
Nice. Never been hunting even though i'm in the right area of it. I shoot clays and at a few ranges mostly.
>>127476715 My mossberg in last thread.

>>127493235
And same to you anon. I live close enough to a range I hear it from the farm every Sunday morning. As long as that type of stuff exists we'll never completely lose gun culture. i was a member of armbritain for 6 years before it became inactive, not much has changed in the last few years in regards to gun laws but self defence laws were strongly enforced after the Tony Martin-burglar case here (partly thanks to Armbritain). Only thing I can say with enthusiasm that has changed.

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>>127486857
>9mm

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>>127488993
Such a damn shame, Luca. You ought to be more careful with your property. OH WELL, ACCIDENTS HAPPEN.

Can you own historical firearms in europe like pistols from world war 2 or something like that?

>>127493604
>7x64
Kill yourself, honestly. Was 308 too easy to find and too cheap for you huh?

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>>127493375
you can keep black powder in the chambers for a very long time with no problem if kept in a dry environment.

>>127494010
a box of 7x64 go for 16 euros in Decathlon

>>127494009
There's a date on which weapons became historical weapons and "functional weapons" and I believe WW2 is a bit too late for that. You could own defunct weapons from WW2 though.

>>127494009
>>127494219
Applies to UK only obviously.

>>127494132
What the fuck? 20 round box? Those are like 30-35 euros here. How much is 308 surplus from GGG or other european manufacturer?

>>127494018
I hear stories often about humidity settling in (especially in paper cartridges) and the powder not igniting or the bullet losing a lot of its power. Always worries me.

Tell me, what bullet type do you use? The slug ones or round balls?
The round ones have more kinetic power from what I know but the ones that are more "bullet-shaped" probably have more penetration power, when talking about a human target.

>>127493375
not the same anon, I shot paper cartridges 10 months old and had no misfire. They were stored in a wooden box.
Although I'll never use a black powder pistol for self defense, the trouble will be the same as using every other weapon and maybe even more because you cannot argue that you loaded it in a hurry.
If some armed people try to enter my house and threaten me or my family maybe I'll resort to use the pump action shotgun, but never cat B weapons.
>>127494010
.308 was a military caliber and hence forbidden until just a couple of years ago. Only recent weapons exist in this caliber. Hunting calibers are a big thing in France, they are expensive as fuck to buy but reloading is easy.
If you want an unregistered bolt action you can go for a Swedish Mauser model 1896, just don't fire too hot loads in it.

>>127494567
a pump action shotgun as opposed to what?

>>127494567
>If some armed people try to enter my house and threaten me or my family maybe I'll resort to use the pump action shotgun, but never cat B weapons.
But the black powder is a D weapon tho. The law doesn't say anything about "keeping a D weapon loaded" AFAIK.

But yeah I concur, difficult to explain how you got your 9mm and loaded it in in such a hurry.

A random cat C (.12 / .308 / 7.62x54r) seems preferable.

>>127494567
Wew, I though your gun laws were uncucked. I guess you won't be affected now that EU is banning semiautos that have magazines for over 10 rounds lmao. I'm pretty sure M1896 action can take quite a punch, not many commercial rounds are too hot for my granddad's gun

>>127494326
When a bought the rifle i thought i was maybe making a big mistake but 7x64 is very common in France.
Pretty cheap here : http://www.esistoire.fr/produit/308WINCSM/cartouche-308-winchester-c7.html

>>127494954
Shamefully these are considered amongst the best gun laws in western Europe.

>>127494388
round balls are fine and more accurate. I don't know if you can feel the difference in your flesh between conical and round bullets.

>>127495486
>round balls
>more accurate

Wrong

>>127495486
>>127494388

The unlucky recipient doesn't give a fuck whether it was a round ball or maxi ball- it sucks getting hit with any of them.

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>>127494567
>If you want an unregistered bolt action you can go for a Swedish Mauser model 1896
D2 weapons are expensive mate.

>>127495123
No way, our, or even Sweden's, restrictions dont come close to West Europe's ones. We can own literally anything as long as we actually use them for their intended sporting purposes. Hunting weapons have some restrictions, especially semiautos, but they are only about the mag sizes when hunting. You can take the mag blocks of when going to the range. You can legally have AK clone as hunting rifle as long as you mod the mag to hold less than 3 rounds.

>>127488946
At this point, Helfeld fired several shots at Wilson which all hit him, but due to his heavy layers of clothing caused no injury and failed to penetrate. Upon Lepidus regaining his upright position, he fired once at Keyworth but the shot missed. Two police officers, Constables Tyler and Newman, heard the shots from the nearby Tottenham Police Station and ran to the location of the noise, finding George Smith, a local gas stoker, beating Lepidus while on the ground. Smith was shot twice by Helfeld, in the head and in the collar bone, but survived.

Pure slapstick comedy gold.

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The amount of disinfo when it comes to our gun laws posted by some Poles in the previous thread is making my head hurt. If you haven't been going to the range for at least one year and you're not a ROMB member, you're probably clueless and you shouldn't be trying to explain how our regulations work based on hearsay. You aren't helping anyone by confusing the living fuck out of all the interested foreigners and other Poles who actually want to own firearms.

>>127494954
the actual law is quite interesting because "military" calibers aren't a thing anymore, but scary calibers still are : everything in .223 Win, 7.62x39 is B category, so a lot of paperwork and you are not really the proprietary of your weapons. In case of a divorce for example you'll have to put all of them in an armorer safe or give them to the police.
If the new laws are applied that means no more AR and AKs, no more than 10 rounds policy can ban the ruger 10/22 too and I don't know about handguns. Thanks for the info on the grandpa gun !
>>127494722
a handgun, the AR, something like that. But I may be mistaken because for judges a pump action shotgun represent something quite violent, maybe the Mosin or even the m1896 can be good for SD ? i can tell the judge it's a 118 old gun, totally obsolete now, not much more than a Nerf toy and they can buy it ?
>>127495486
loading the conical ones is a pain in the ass honestly, you have to maintain a very good alignment in the cylinder, grease the grooves evenly, things like that. Plus if you don't cast them yourself they are too expensive for practical situations, hence shooting below 30 meters.
>>127495861
got mine for 600 euros, very nice condition, the barrel is awesome, it's more precise than my never fired mosin.

Helfeld and Lepidus hijacked a tram en route for Leyton. Several members of the public escaped the tram, but while on board Edward Loveday was shot in the throat. The police commandeered another tram, and it was boarded by about 40 officers. Further along the road, the tram containing Helfeld and Lepidus was in danger of being overtaken by a horse-drawn carriage driven by Constable Hawkins, who attempted to shoot at the tram, but crashed after Helfeld shot the horse.

My sides.

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Ow plx ..

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To conclude, to the Frenchmen reading, if you don't already own a rifle .12 / 7.64 / 7.62x54r and a black powder revolver, what are you waiting for?

>>127495908
That's why I said western Europe and not Northern Europe.

>>127496515
They were literal anarchist Jews too lel

>>127496136
The new laws got accepted by EU parliament, it's only matter of time when they don't let you buy any "scary" weapons. I still have hope that our politicians tell EU to fuck off, semi autos are really important to us because our army is dependent on it's reserver and their skill. Though I am surprised they didnt just outright ban them, I guess they knew people would go haywire if they did

Really funny that 223 is considered a "bad" caliber there, I just got such a rifle like month ago for hunting.

>>127496770
Sorry, I can't read, I'm way too tired

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By the way, does anyone know what the minimal possible impact of the new EU firearms directive is going to be? What are the regulations that member states have to introduce to make their gun laws EU-compliant?

I've read some drafts, but I don't know what the final version looks like. Still waiting for Turczyn to drop some info, cause too lazy to read that shit myself.

>>127496748
This, join a shooting club (I know it's difficult, most of the urban ones are full and refusing people)
once you have the license get it signed by a doctor and buy a 12 cal, a CZ 452 .22lr and/or a bolt action, hunting or surplus. And a motherfucking ton of ammo.
>>127497044
I hope your government will oppose that, Finland as one of the last real army in the EU

>>127493375
i live in florida and i dont worry about that

40C yesterday and 90% humidity

>>127496868
They went on a GTA killing spree.

>>127496748
>no 22lr
where is your Manufrance in 22lr garçon ?!

>>127497473
And in turn parliament ended up passing the first serious firearm restrictions in over a century. It's always (((them))).

>>127497108
>the minimal possible impact of the new EU firearms directive is going to be
Depends on how your gubmint is going to implement it. Basically no new licenses are allowed for semi-automatic rifles that accept magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds. It really depends on your goverment if they are going to ban just the magazines or rifles like that themselves since every magazine can be pinned so it can't hold "too many" rounds

>>127497413
Yeah, our defence is going to get a big blow from this. Im guessing this is how they start implementing EU army that can basically occupy your country the second some kike feels like it

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Stay strong and stay armed Europe.

>>127497413
>This, join a shooting club (I know it's difficult, most of the urban ones are full and refusing people)
I moved a lot over the years, and one time I just emailed a random club in another department, asked them if I could register, they said sure, I paid the stamp and the club, signed the paper over the postal service, and that's it. I never even went there. They don't care, they get the money after all.

If you only want the licence and not actually to use the stand, it's a viable option.

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>>127486783
>>127487473
>>127488571

It's called licencia F for sports shooting,you can own a fucking CETME for all they care but it's the same as hunting,you can't use it for self defense or you'll be in a he'll of legal shit.

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>>127497108
Nvm, found it.
Banned shit:
- handguns with 20+ round magazines
- rifles/shotguns with 10+ round magazines
- semi-auto weapons that were built from full-auto weapons
- semi-auto rifles/handguns that are shorter than 60cm with a collapsed stock
- full auto weapons

Fuck Merkel, fuck Schultz, fuck Bieńkowska and fuck the EU. We were allowed to have all those guns with proper paperwork. I'm pretty mad right now, especially since the odds that our government won't implement this shit are really fucking low.

Jesus Christ.

>>127498216
>- handguns with 20+ round magazines
>- rifles/shotguns with 10+ round magazines
WTF

>>127498216
lel. tmossbergs here can only have two cartridges and one in the chamber.

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>>127485085
America loves us some guns.

>>127485085
I waited for a long time for that gif to shoot.

>>127498971
I think you might be seeing things anon.

I cant get a gun because of mental disease. Fuck my life

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>>127498723

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>>127485085
One of these days someone is going to do something stupid like shooting down a police helicopter or blowing up a M1 tank and those 50 cal's are going to get banned.

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>>127486228

Generally when people talk about guns being banned, they don't mean it's actually impossible to get them, they mean they are locked behind either high prices, paperwork, or whatever process that makes them unfeasible to get.

also i'm not sure what the purpose of saying you can have a single shot .22 that looks like an AR/AK is

Also the image covers bolt actions twice.

>>127499167
Time to off yourself Ivan.

>>127499171
ww1?

>>127498565
Dude, some people here own fully automatic submachine guns and assault rifles with 30 round magazines. Most of them went through a really lengthy legal battle to get them. More importantly, you could rent them at the range and fuck around with the giggle switch.

In 2018, those days will be gone. Good people, good gunsmiths who were producing quality semi-auto AKMs like the Works 11 team will be out of business. 30-round mags for the AKMs? Gone. Most IPSC rifles? Gone. And we were finally starting to recover from the commie days too, with more and more people taking up shooting.

This is so fucked up. I'm at loss for words.

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>>127499171
>if I send them binoculars can they see how cucked they are by their government?

bought this right after the pulse night club shooting because I thought king nigger was going to try and ban them again.

>>127499187

Useless against a tank and to hit a flying machine would take a lot of magic.

>>127499196
Many people, mostly your fellow countrymen, mean it in a literal sense - that guns are banned completely. Do you need any other proof than a large portion of Brits being unaware they can own anything beyond a rifle?

>>127499196
And we've been over the images inaccuracies. Ctrl+f the abovetopsecret link or see here http://uk.businessinsider.com/guns-you-can-legally-buy-in-the-uk-2016-4/

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>>127499556
>>if I send them binoculars can they see how cucked they are by their government?

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>>127499559
>tanks cant be destroyed

Here we go

>>127499187
UK gun laws have the(only) benefit of 99.9% (perhaps 100%) of the 3 million gun owners being (almost) exclusively white so no, probably not. Being an island nation, the illegal gun trade is harder to curb though you obviously can't entirely since there are an estimated 400k illegal handguns in the UK alone.

>>127500527
easier to curb*
its late

>>127499568
>>127499630

Many of my fellow countrymen believe they are jesus christ, that doesn't exactly mean anything.

I'm not saying that you can't own guns, and it's good that there are people in your country who understand the importance of arming themselves

>>127500720
It's naysayers, and genuinely misinformed people.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/518193/Guidance_on_Firearms_Licensing_Law_April_2016_v20.pdf

In regards to genuine law.

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>>127485085
just gave me a freedom boner... moslim purge when?

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These are a few of mine I am taking with to my buddies bachelor party next month.

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>>127501917
Soon but not yet.

>>127501946
>.223

The caliber that keeps on memeing

As a spanish 20yo I couldn´t tell most ppl that i´m learning to shoot because i´d be looked upon as a deranged person.
Even most ppl in the club when they first know me, ask me why I decided to start shooting if I ´m not competing; at that moment I can see the alert in their eyes as if they may be treating with a psycopath.

Learning to shoot should be standard among males.

Disgusting weak society

>>127502240

I buy the 100 round packs for plinking. I keep several hundred 556 around for my shtf stash.

>>127486228
>4 photos of rifles to scare people when it should just be one with semi auto up to .223 and bolties up to 50

>>127503324
>The primary purpose of these threads is to inform and encourage western Europeans to arm themselves though.

If a picture of 4 rifles scares you I feel sorry for you. The future won't be kind on you.

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>>127502433
at least it's more relaxed where I go, but there is really two kind of sport shooters : the ones here for the fun and the ones for performance and competing. the last ones frowning upon anything else than .22lr and air pistol/ rifles.
And we have stupid range policies like holstering is totally forbidden even if there was a case of someone stealing guns some years ago.
Dynamic shooting like in the US is absolutely forbidden although IPSC exists but you have to wear fluo and have pimped guns like pic related, cost a fuckton of money and if you don't know someone to introduce you to the restricted circle it's impossible to join.

>>127498054
what caliber is the biggest one? 7,62 x 51?

>>127486216
That's fucking ridiculous. Not being allowed to have a piece of wood.

Politicians who push those laws, and the cops who execute them are traitors. They were only doing this to keep the population cowed and dependent on the state, like some sort of abusive parent. But at the same time they let immigrant scum run around with knives and guns as if it's nothing, while left wing extremists placed an explosive at a PEGIDA rally with zero fucking consequences.

I really hope we come down with the hammer on these Marxist bastards one day.

>>127504889
They do it in London too. That's where the bin that knife meme comes from. Gun control was relatively successful at getting niggers to stop killing each other with firearms. They just turned to knives instead and since the majority of people are too stupid to connect it to race, what must the solution be? Ban knives. You can't carry garden tools and such around London in a "suspicious" manner. I guess that means don't be a nigger.

>>127486857
Yes. For when you need to defend yourself against the state or the AK-wielding terrorists they support.

>>127503443
then you are lost. your people will see 4 spooky rifles and zone out.

>>127505206
Yes, the left has a notorious blind spot for applying corrective measures to population groups. But only certain ones, because every incident involving a gun is reason enough for them to crack down on legal gun owners, despite them not having a goddamn thing to do with said incidents.

I swear, if they had arrested the murderers of Lee Rigby before they committed the act, the lefties would have been out defending them as victims of racial profiling.

But they killed him with a car. The most deadly mass attack in our country was committed with a car, too. When do you think they will begin restricting access to cars?

>>127505585
Every gun on that list is legal. The semi-auto shotgun, AR15 (in straight-pull form so cuck form), AKM, the Steyr HS and long barrelled revolver.

>>127505679
>I swear, if they had arrested the murderers of Lee Rigby before they committed the act, the lefties would have been out defending them as victims of racial profiling.
Oh they definitely would have been. I bet soldiers are scared shitless coming in and out of barracks around parts of the UK now. They can't carry weapons outside base either.

>>127504305
Win 280
>>127502433
Where are you from anon?
Non independentista catacuck here..i would like to meet with another /pol/ack and go shooting if we live nearby

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>>127485085
>tfw you literally have to bribe cops to legally own gun here

>>127508624
I wish it were that easy here. FEO's can be cunts.

>>127506069
Our soldiers can't wear their uniforms off-base, because it makes them targets for attacks. But let's not do anything about the cause of that risk.