Will the US ever have universal healthcare?

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Nigger do you even have a future?

>>127482742
>Americans spend the most on healthcare but doesn't have the best healthcare system

Why

>>127483264
Because we don't pay the most for healthcare.
Taxes count towards paying for healthcare.

Therefore we pay less since I don't pay taxes for healthcare.
Nor is my healthcare even that expensive.
Less than 60 dollars a month.

Barring a total reset of the American system and psyche to pre-LBJ standards, it is pretty much inevitable.

>>127483617
What are you talking about?
> Taxes count towards paying for healthcare
Fucking obviously, and people here spend more privately than they would in taxes in pretty much any other country.
>>127483264
The whole entangled mess, overcomplicated legal regulations that aren't designed well, regulations of the medical industry itself that make it not particularly transparent, the fact that companies aren't allowed to compete across state lines, Americans being incredibly fat, unhealthy, and violent, just lots of things in general really.

>>127483957
>the fact that companies aren't allowed to compete across state lines

So what happens if it was a totally unregulated market?

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>>127482742
having universal HC doesn't mean its good coverage. If your measure for good insurance is by the number of people covered then there is something wrong. what the fuck do I know im just some white guy on /pol/

>>127484135
Totally unregulated market won't happen and is very bad because it increases information asymmetry, the important part is regulating smartly where it makes sense, like allowing customers to more effectively shop accurately, and de-regulating where it isn't needed or increases inefficiency. If healthcare weren't influenced by heavy lobbying from certain syndicates that work together against consumer interests like doctors and pharmaceuticals than we probably would have drastically decreased costs, albeit not as low as a country like the Netherlands, just because they have a healthier and higher-quality population overall demographically.

Universal healthcare is literally communism and Hitler therefore it will never happen

>>127483957
>the fact that companies aren't allowed to compete across state lines
Even if they were allowed, they wouldn't.

Each state would still have its own regulations making setting up a network of doctors across multiple jurisdictions a complete nightmare.

You'd have to forcibly deregulate healthcare at the state level and then regulate it at the federal level to create parity before companies would even consider multistate networks.

>>127482742
Unless you guys want to pay a huge hike in taxes, nope.

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>>127482742

>>127485080
There would actually be a net mean saving of money though. It would be like paying 5% more in taxes to increase your disposable income by 8-15%. I'm not using exact numbers but that's a similar example.

>>127485352
I don't know what kinda rates you guys are paying, but for example, in the UK National Insurance (that covers part of the NHS these days, I think 75%?) is around 9%-12% of your wage, on top of your 20% or so tax. And the NHS is underfunded. And a bit crap.

>>127483617
Insurance =! healthcare you dolt

>>127482742
it's a misnomer and it's not a dream you fucking piece of shit commie shill
GODDAMN IT YOU NIGGERS
STOP BUMPING "WILL US EVER BE COMMIE" THREADS
SAGE AND REPORT
STOP SHILLING NAT-SOCIALISM FUCKING COMMIE THREADS
THERE'S A BIG FUCKING STUPID MEME ATTACK GOING ON
AND THERE'S FAR TOO MANY STUPID PEOPLE

>>127484634
>Each state would still have its own regulations making setting up a network of doctors across multiple jurisdictions a complete nightmare.

I'm surprised to hear this is the case, so you're saying that a qualified doctor from California can't practice medicine in Texas for example?

Summer Shill

>>127486143
What's wrong with universal healthcare? It doesn't always even have to be government-provided or anything, look at the Netherlands' system, they aren't communist/NatSoc at all.

>>127482742
California will soon
400 Billion $ cost
The entite state's revenue is 200 Bl.
FREE!

i hope not

>>127486741
It is a better system, but still technically provided in NL by the state, all long term care that is more than a simple hospital surgery or doctors visit is covered by a state-controlled mandatory insurance which costs 7.1% of your income.

Because the state has guaranteed the cost of long term care it of course has ballooned in costs which is why that rate will just keep going up along with income tax rates. They also pay for it with a wealth tax, which means if you have any savings over 21k Euros or a second house, or a car they deem worth more than 21k euros (or stocks, anything at all) they will assume you make 4% yield off regardless if you don't, and tax it at 30%. Many cucks think this is great and soaks the rich but the rich just move offshore and it soaks the small business owners and and landlords which in turn jack the costs of housing and goods.