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BREAKING: Russia Says It Would Use Nukes if US or NATO Enters Crimea

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Russia would be forced to use nuclear weapons in any conflict in which U.S. or NATO forces entered eastern Ukraine, a member of Russia’s parliament told an international gathering of government security officials on Sunday.

“On the issue of NATO expansion on our borders, at some point I heard from the Russian military — and I think they are right — If U.S. forces, NATO forces, are, were, in the Crimea, in eastern Ukraine, Russia is undefendable militarily in case of conflict without using nuclear weapons in the early stage of the conflict,” Russian parliamentarian Vyacheslav Alekseyevich Nikonov told attendees at the GLOBSEC 2017 forum in Bratislava, Slovakia.

It’s another mark of escalating tensions in the region due to continuing conflict in Ukraine and aggressive Russian activities across Europe, including a Kremlin-backed coup-attempt in Montenegro in October, complete with an assassination attempt on former Prime Minister Milo Djukanovic (Montenegro joined NATO in May.) Nikonov said these regional tensions, and their causes, are perceived very differently in Russia than in the West.

http://www.defenseone.com/threats/2017/05/russian-lawmaker-we-would-use-nukes-if-us-or-nato-enters-crimea/138230/
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>>127476551
bring it on faggots
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Sure it would. This is more fake news because war sells.

Go watch some Jerry Springer, you fucking yankee.
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>>127476551

they said this years ago
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"Breaking"
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>>127476551
>BREAKING NEWS
>Russia will use nukes if attacked
Are you retarded?
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>>127476551
WWIII when?
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How it that newsworthy?
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>>127477119
Absolute retardation, the post.
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Kek when your military is so shit you automatically resort to nukes as a first option

At least use a fuel air bomb you fucking pussies
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HOLY SHIT ANOTHER WW3 POST WITH RUSSIA INVOLVED

DAMN NEVER HEARD THAT ONE BEFORE
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>>127477278

Why the fuck are you talking like Yoda?
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>>127477083

Stop attacking countries already, you Democrats are insane
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>>127477197
>>127477225

Yes you stupid white trash niggers. these comments were just made in Slovakia. I can't wait to mow you down, and I'm a Ukrainian-America. war is coming.
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>>127477490

No it isn't, you fucking doinkus.

Stop watching the news and go live your life. War is not coming as it will benefit nobody.
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>>127477231
RARE
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>>127477490
>Are you retarded?
>Yes
Okay.
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>>127476551
BREAKING: If you do to Russia what it does to others, Russia will kill you
Russia is a sociopathic bully
Clinton should have destroyed the Red Army after Communism downfall
He has been too kind and now the World faces a huge problem
Next Russian Revolution: nuke the shit out of them
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>>127477490
You hyphen bastards are so funny.
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>>127477665
worry about your own rapefugees baguette

Nearly 40% of young children in your country are nonwhite, nobody will care about defeating France if war comes because France will fall from within
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>>127476551
And this is news how exactly?

Of course we would use nukes in this scenario. We told that from the beginning - for those dumb enough to not understand that this is a general policy.
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>>127476551

was Crimea really worth it?

the protection of Syria was perfectly justifiable but I'm not seeing the risk-reward of the Ukraine activities
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TZAR BOMBA

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>>127477231
thanks for the flag
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>>127477991

Your government keeps provoking USA. are the stupid Russian citizens laughing? are you all drugged out?

when you get punished, Putin won't suffer. you will suffer.
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>>127477225
Eastern Ukraine isn't Russia, Ivan the Faggot.
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>>127478158
It's the other way around, Tyronne. Yopu are the ones provoking us, and we have let that go unchallenged for more than two decades. No longer.

And while I'll probably be radioactive dust if nukes get used, so will be you.
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>>127477225
Please, try to target these cities suburbs.
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>>127478403
nice that you're not dead drunk and back posting miss clinton
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>>127477231
>virgin

just kidding mate you're one of us!
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>>127478100
Needs to be dropped by a sub-sonic bomber that could have been shot down by an f-4 phantom.

That bomb is completely useless by modern military standards.
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>>127477083
>"Bring it on, faggots"

Lmao, quit waving your dick around.
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>>127478403
Crimea isn't Ukraine.

>>127477490
Ukraine is dead.
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fuck yes, just nuke canada please. it's fucking terrible. just nuke us.
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>>127478535
That's a nice myth Putin has built for you. I'm an old fag, I was around for the end of the cold war and the aftermath. Russia was meant to be a partner in NATO, not an enemy.
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>>127478535

I think you need to stop reading /pol/ memes, we would love to incinerate all of you into an unidentifiable pile of smoking flesh. No one will be left alive and your faggot manlet Putin will flee into the remote mountains while you suffer

you might think you have friends in America but most of us would love to see Russia become an uninhabitable nuclear wasteland. I miss the days when I didn't have to see you on /pol/ but I guess you wanted to worship Drumpf's dick.
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>>127477490
>i will mow you down
>will literally turn to ash in a second
How stupid can you get?
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>>127476551
>a member of Russia’s parliament told
stopped reading there. not interested when one of putin's puppets is talking out its ass
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>>127479060
>Russia was meant to be a partner in NATO, not an enemy.

So was I. This line here is one of the greatest scams ever, and I even used to buy it a long time ago.

But that was a long time ago.
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>>127477225

Crimea isn't Russia. It belongs to Ukraine.
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>>127479561
KEKD
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>>127476551
a single member of parliament doesn't speak for the entire Russian Federation

saged and reported
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>>127476551
can't wait to see melting fat in nukular barbecue
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>>127478766
the proton was originally designed as superheavy ICBM to deliver bombs like that. Then miniaturization of warheads became better and MIRVs took that spot
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>>127479675
croat, no, brother, will you put past differences asside and join me in kebab removing. The hour is soon at hand.
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>>127479561
russias claim on crimea is a lot more substantiated than turkeys on parts of cyprus
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>>127479849
i will. but you have to promise to respect the borders in the future.
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>>127480090
no problem, you can have krajina i really dont give a fuck about it

BUT PLEASE dont brush asside what i have told you. We are in deep shit. By the time we are in our 40s if it hadn't happened, it will.
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>>127479060
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>127477225
>Russia will use nukes if attacked
So Eastern Ukraine is Russia now?

Do you remember how the "proofs" meme came about? Just in case you don't, people were accusing Russia of sending their own troops to attack the Ukraine or supporting pro-Russian rebels, in which case Ivan demanded evidence.
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B-based Putin
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please god nuke Canada. nothing worth keeping here.
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>>127476551
real quote
“On the issue of NATO expansion on our borders, at some point I heard from the Russian military — and I think they are right — If U.S. forces, NATO forces, are, were, in the Crimea, in eastern Ukraine, Russia is undefendable militarily in case of conflict without using nuclear weapons in the early stage of the conflict”.

this doesn't mean what you think it means you dumb fuck OP. It means Russia know they are a bigger Kim. They need their nukes in case a much larger military force threatens them directly. This has been the case for almost 80 years, not exactly "breaking".
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>>127477083
Kike. You want nuclear war? Oh yeah you're a dual citizen so you don't give a shit you aliyah Israeli backstabbing kike bastard.
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>>127476551
Who gives a shit what this cuck whose country has half the GDP of France thinks? Just nuke these bastards and be done with them.
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>>127476551
>the president of a nation that doesn't fuck around is letting NATO shitters know not to fuck with his country as he can and will nuke their shit
>meanwhile, in the USA, mainstream media is doing EVERYTHING they can, damn near 24/7, to poke the bear
>MSM's face while the above is happening

i live in texas, so even if shit hits the fan, we're basically cool if things get nasty with russia, but this 'war for profit' agenda by these detestable far-left MSM operatives will never cease to disgust me.

good thing president trump is smart enough to know that russia IS NOT the enemy.
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>>127479561
When will you leave Northern Cyprus?
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>>127480520
i fucking know senpai

im terrified. We lost our war with them thanks to your bombings, and now you are fighting them

we need the russians to be strong in order for us to have enough soldiers in the upcomming judeochristian muslim war
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>>127480805
This. It's obvious (((who))) is pushing for war between our countries. It's the same "people" who fabricated the cold war in the first place.
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>>127480339
>you can have krajina
"""""srao krajna""""" was a rogue criminal parastate that failed miserably.
t. you cannot have krajna because it is not yours.

now we can continue to speak on kebab removal.
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>Russia threatening nukes if the world doesnt do what it wants
>again

Russia's military is underfunded and staffed by conscripts, their navy is rusting away and any advancement they have made since the cold war (in areas other then AA) are too expensive for the country to field in any meaningful capacity. At this point, the only reason the rest of the world hasnt finished picking apart the corpse communism left behind is because of the "never invade Russia/General Winter XDDD" meme and the fact that Russia actually has useable nukes. If their nukes werent capable of succeafully reaching beyond their doorstep they would be a larger, whiter North Korea.
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Nukes do not exist
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>>127477665
underage faggot spotted
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>>127480929
>Le russia is our white ally

Calm down Paco. Dumb piece of shit. the adults are speaking
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>>127481045
yea i agree. those serbs chimped out. no one was making them leave until they caused all that shit themselves.

infact even today 180,000 serbs still live in croatia and get to enjoy EU movement unlike the rest of us peasants. you treat them plenty nicely. Im sorry for all that has happened.


onto the kebab removal, There are a lot of muslims in europe, we can somewhat handle the bosnians between ourselves. But the other ones are easily going to over run their euro cuck neighbors and force the hand against us. How the fuck do we survive. This is like the ottoman turks all over again nigga.
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>>127476551
not a really good article source mate. It's as valid as Army/Navy/Marine/Airforce Times when it comes to actual information.

Meaning that there is a certain truth there, sprinkled with A LOT of hyperbole, that changes the outlook of "We will do as we always do if attacked (Defensive Passive) to "We will attack if attacked (Offensive Aggressive.)

This is known as refracting the truth, a common tool used by "news" sources to make it look like something is happening to rile up the readers, when in all reality nothing is happening other than your usual procedures.
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>>127481134
those people, i wager, are much more well adjusted for a serious war than most of the american population i wager. Our enemy is islam. Lets be ready to help eachother out with this issue, because otherwise we are deeply fucked. All of us.
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>>127479561
constantinople isnt turkish it belongs to greece
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>>127481493
>t. kike
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>>127481502
bosniaks are not kebabs you want to remove.
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>>127477231
I see you are also a virgin.
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>>127481440
"Forward, The light brigade!"
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>>127481795
yes they are
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>>127476551
isn't this expected though? obviously they don't want people cucking around their borders. It would be like the US issuing the same warning if Chinese or Russian submarines showed up along the US coastline. You poke a bear and it's going to bite.
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>>127476551
makes sense, russia has no plans to lose crimea in the same way we would fight over one of our ports like hawaii
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>>127476551
>russia launches missile
>USA launches missle
>one hits SA
>one hits Iraq
>t-technical failure
and they all lived happily thereafter
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>>127476551
That's cool I guess. Why would we go to war over Crimea? If Ukraine wants it back they should take it.
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>>127482243
They can't even take Donetsk.
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>>127476551
Can't wait until new tech comes out that makes ICBMs obsolete. The wars are going to be devastating. Major power shift. Hope the US comes out on top though
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>>127481996
no. they are not. le kebab remove meme was created by genocidal serbs to justify their way of warfare in bosnia; aka ethnic cleansing

pic related: brave serbian soldier kicking dangerous sandnigger granny mudshit that was just about to allah-akbar him to oblivion
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>>127482140
>color commentary by norgay
*yawn
save sweetinn fagit
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>>127482307
Oh no. That sucks. Not our problem. When Putin invades NATO I'll care.
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>>127476551
pls no nukes we no longer Broken Arrow since 90s russia pls no raep (nuke Incirlik tho)
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>>127482563
look at the 20k foreign muhajedeen they brought in, as well as their own terrorists like naser oric. These people are islamic by the book and it wont take much to get them to attack their own "alleys" the croats once they handle us. Don't forget you were at war with them for 1 year and 4 months.
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>>127476551
nice, can't wait for burgers to experience war on their soil for once
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>>127481791
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>>127481795
I would agree with Cro bro here. The kebabs that need removing first are a bit further down south.
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>>127477083
>ooga booga, can't read
you're the one who would have to "bring" it, dumbass
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>>127477083

Burgers pushing their NWO agenda as usual. Day of the grill when?
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>>127482643
Think a bit further.
They can't even take Donetsk. A slab of clay accessible by land in 360 degrees.
If Ukraine does the dumb thing and invades Crimea, that's going to be considered a declaration of war to Russia and Russia will sweep through the whole country.
Considering the EU's jingoism, this will certainly pull in NATO, and by extension you.
Why? Because Ukraine has a globalist puppet gouvernment that has been getting cozy with the EU with an association treaty and alleged talks of entry into the EU.

This fucking matters.
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>>127476551
>"We will use weapons if you attack our territory"
I can see how this is breaking, but how is this news?
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>It’s another mark of escalating tensions in the region due to continuing conflict in Ukraine and aggressive Russian activities

>aggressive Russian activities

Wew!
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>>127477373
we will let you do all of this noble knight bullshit, don't get hurt by the nuke
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>>127480517
>>127479561
Crimea is not eastern Ukraine, you dumbfucks. It is Crimea, and it is russian.
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>>127482924
>20k foreign muhajedeen they brought in
i wonder why they did that...

ok, it's 2017 and i agree that wahabi scum must be eradicated from bosnia. end that's about it.
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>>127484018
Russia hasn't directly threatened with nukes in this scenario before. Other scenarios perhaps, but not Crimea.
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MAGA (make america groundzero again)
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>>127479561
>comes from the people who refuse to return Constantinople
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No they wouldn't. They're bluffing. Their military, though large, is shit, and would not be able to stand up to NATO. They're desperately clinging onto the old idea that "oh Russia is the scary Soviet power with lots of nukes".
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>>127484322
thank you cro bro

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Declaration
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>>127476551
NATO BTFO
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>>127478556
plz i live in amsterdam but wouldnt mind if u tzar bomba'd it
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Crimea is rightful Russia clay.
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>>127484326
Why the fuck would we have nukes if not to use in case of military action against us?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_doctrine_of_Russia#2010_Military_Doctrine
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>invade Russia
>they use nukes
What part of this surprises people?
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>>127476551
It's rightful American clay. Russia could Crimea river.
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>>127485097
Same with America and the rest of the nuclear world.
Difference is that announcing your intent scares the normies and in this particular case, strengthens the Russian hold on Crimea which even the west must concede as a legitimate Russian Oblast.
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>>127483726
Use nukes. I fucking dare you.
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>>127476551
>Vyacheslav Alekseyevich Nikonov
literally who?
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>>127478556
>Berlin aka Little Somalia of Germany
>Not on the List
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>>127485214
Pretty sure crimea is internationally recognized as part-of russia
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>>127486091
is not*
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>>127484326
Welp, that's pretty obvious though.
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why can't the russians have crimea? ukraine was soviet union, it is land reclamation.
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>>127477083
Don't mind him. He's just drunk already. Probably grilling burgers.
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>>127485307
BTW it's not an oblast', but a republic, and the biggest city of it - Srvastopol, is now 3-rd city of federal value, which is like a sub-capital.
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>>127486091
That's unfortunate. Soon almost all of Ukraine will be recognized as Russia.
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>>127486079
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_the_European_Union_by_Muslim_population
The wiki article it's not updated - its pic is very incomplete.
>>127486091
You wanna how many occupations/annexations aren't universally internationally recognised will become frozen conflicts.
>>127479964
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_conflict
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>>127477083
dumbass
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>>127486850
highly doubt it, would hate to see another brother war, but the european union/nato will probably retaliate severely one way. Imagine the outcry of Poland, which is member of eu/
>>127486091 (You)
Well he was making the point that its logical for Russia to nuke invading forces into crimea, I was simply making the point that in the eyes of the international community crimea is not Russian ground
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>>127476551
>Russcucks literally admit the won't be able to defend Russia in a conventional war
Kekekekek fucking useless slavshit
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>>127477083
>Burgers encroach Russia
>bring it on faggots
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Russia's military is North Korean tier. They HAVE to threaten to use nukes because that's all they have.
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>>127477490
>and I'm a Ukrainian-America
Good ukranian is dead ukranian, just like grandpa Stalin used to say.
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>>127488502
that's all they really NEED to keep us in line
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>>127489288
what is that underbarrel attachment?
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>>127489423
That isn't going to work forever though. Eventually there will be a way to successfully stop nuclear weapons and as usual the United States will be the one to pioneer this technology.

Going all in on nuclear weapons is a short sighted strategy. Russia is still counting on weapons designed in the 1940's for protection while the United States is installing railguns and lasers on our stuff.
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>>127476551
NATO nor USA is allied with Ukraine, so why exactly would we be in Crimea?
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Nuclear explosion this week
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Yeah, and I'll use my dick if he does.

/thread
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turns out politicians are the best at autistically screeching at each other than actual autists
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>>127490351
Nigga, you spend so much shit on military i'm surprised you dont have space battleships yet.
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>>127476551
This is a poor idea for Russia.
http://thebulletin.org/how-us-nuclear-force-modernization-undermining-strategic-stability-burst-height-compensating-super10578

>Assuming that the 506 deployed W76-1s equipped with the super-fuze were used against Russian silo-based ICBMs, essentially all 136 Russian silo-based ICBMs could be potentially eliminated by attacking each silo with two W76-1 warheads—a total of 272 warheads. This would consume only 54 percent of the deployed W76-1 warheads, leaving roughly 234 of the 500 warheads free to be targeted on yet other installations.

> In all, the entire Russian silo-based forces could potentially be destroyed while leaving the US with 79 percent of its ballistic missile warheads unused.

>To destroy or expose the remaining launchers, United States planners would have the nuclear forces needed to undertake truly scorched-earth tactics: Just 125 US Minuteman III warheads could set fire to some 8,000 square miles of forest area where the road-mobile missiles are most likely to be deployed.

>Such a “warfighting attack” would likely begin with the detonation of a nuclear warhead in front of key early-warning radars. An explosion of a 455 kiloton Trident II warhead at an altitude of 1,300 to 1,400 kilometers would create an area of radar “blackout” that would prevent all Russian radars looking toward the United States and into the northern parts of the North Atlantic from observing US ballistic missiles as they rose over the radar horizon.

>US missile launches from the North Atlantic would be coordinated to rise over the radar horizon only after the Russian radars had been blinded. Even if the radars were not rendered ineffective, the Russians could reasonably expect to have no more than seven to 10 minutes of warning before Moscow was destroyed.

tl;dr Russia would get it's shit pushed in if they decided to go nuclear.

inb4 a bunch of triggered slavaboos chimp out, show lack of reading comprehension
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>>127491221
We're working on it. It's already proven capable of spending 2+ year stretches in space.

And that's just what we know about.
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>>127490122
really?
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>>127490122

GP-25 grenade launcher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj77SrwRIyM
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>>127483726
Ruskin doesn't realize we can disable all you satellites at a press of a trigger. We have robot space planes planting explosives on all your satellites.

I don't want war to save your sorry ass from genocide. We aren't afraid like we used to be.
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>>127476551
Good I hope Russia collapses all NATO states and frees us from this multicultural hell.
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The paid Russian shills scatter like rats when you call them out, it's hilarious.
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>>127491221
We do
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>>127476551
>Russia annexing clay
>Is upset NATO is locking down all other clay on their borders

Yeah, nobody saw this coming, totally unexpected.
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>>127491303
you are ignoring the obvious fact that if such a attack would occur that Russia would just fire every goddamn missile onto the USA/its allies, before the silos could be destroyed.
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>>127491303
This
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>>127491577
yes
>>127491722
thanks
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>>127492030
Yeah, we just gonna ignore years of unprovoked expansion since the 90s, that didn't happen
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>>127492198
>shows lack of reading comprehension.

Right on cue. Thanks!

Would you like a few moments to review the material so you can educate yourself, or would you prefer that I educate you?
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>>127492198
*launches missiles before you*
nuthing personel kido

How?
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>defenseone
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>>127491832
NO MORE FUCKING BROTHERWARS, we alread lost to many whites in WWI & II. Let the rusks keep the Crimea but if they take more we have another brotherwar, which we cant fucking use right now, we should be killing tyrones en ahmeds
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>>127491221
They just confirmed they are building pic related. I think that's close enough.

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/170463-lockheed-unveils-sr-72-hypersonic-mach-6-scramjet-spy-plane
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>>127477083
Get off the internet, Songbird, nobody likes you here.
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>>127477396

A FUCKING LEAF
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>>127491303
Russia still has nuclear subs locked in on the US strategic targets
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>>127492478
If this bullshit was realy so damn effective, then the USA would of nuked Russia decades ago.

>>127492521
Im no military expert, but if a damn nukes were flying towards my missile silos, i'd shoot everything i got back at the fuckers.
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>>127477083
kys commiefornia democrat despots
>t. the entire fucking rest of the united states
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>>127477083
you're an idiot. off yourself.
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>>127492724
>Shows lack of reading comprehension

Again! Two for two.

Ill ask you the same question I asked the Slovenian.

Would you like to review the material on your own to educate yourself, or would you prefer that I educate you?
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>>127492396
Perhaps you should have not been a commie shithole and actually been worth allying with instead of falling into a shitstorm of slavic retardation.

Nations CHOOSE to ally with the west, it isn't expansion, it is nations literally admitting the west is the best and wanting to be part of that you filthy vodkanigger.
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>>127477083
GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY COUNTRY YOU FUCKING DEMOCRAT!
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>>127492802
>then the USA would of nuked Russia decades ago.
Why?

>Im no military expert
Clearly.
Can't read either. Its a question of warning time. The SLBMs don't give you enough time to launch your missiles before they arrive.

You really should bother to learn something, as you acknowledge you are ignorant.
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>>127493002
And the ones that choose not to get bombed into oblivion. Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yugoslavia, etc. I know how it goes.
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>>127492802
>If someone shoot at my head I'll just grab my gun and empty my clip
>RIP in pieces cück!

I finally can truly see your point
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>>127492396
Sorry land doesn't just wait around while you try to pick up the pieces of your blasted out state
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>>127493145
>m-muh warning time
>this nigger doesn't know about Dead Hand
>or even what the fucking word "contingency" means
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Ok
I'm dead then
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>>127493397
>Dead Hand
http://russianforces.org/blog/2006/04/dr_strangelove_meets_reality.shtml

The Soviet Central Committee thinks you are a fucking idiot.

> The Soviet Union never built this automatic Doomsday Machine (also known as Dead Hand) -- the Perimeter communication system that is often mistaken for it is something quite different.


You also need to educate yourself.
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>>127493145
Give me one good reason why the USA shouldn't nuke Russia or vice versa.

>>127493312
>If someone pulls a gun on me i'll grab my gun and point it at him
>if i get shot then at least im taking the fucker whit me

You truly didn't see my point did you?
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>>127493426
>Poland
either way you would be, yeah...
But You're mostly white, so of course, according to liberals, its perfectly justifiable.

>>127493584
Yeah, just like the US never planned to nuke the moon, yah fucking moron
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>>127477083
>threatening russsia
>wanting to have everyone who survives the blasts die of radiation poisoning. And the world ends.
Sup FBI fags. It's rare you post here but it's still way too easy to see the difference between regular and goverment shills.
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>>127493633
I did not realize you were Neo.
Sorry my man.
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Old news retard
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>>127477421
That wont be an option, the world must be under one globalist flag.
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>>127493397
>Dead Hand
Also, even if you think it does exist, it will have no missiles to launch because they have all been destroyed.

Morons like you should really read a little more.

>>127493633
>Give me one good reason why the USA shouldn't nuke Russia or vice versa.
The powers that be prefer the current arrangement rather than any possible outcome of a nuclear war. There is nothing worth nuking anyone over.

Even if you assume that the Russians would get a missile off (they won't but whatever) and destroy a US city, there are circumstances where that is worth it because the consequences of NOT acting outweigh the loss of that city.
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>>127493769
>Yeah, just like the US never planned to nuke the moon, yah fucking moron

Sigh. You sure are stupid.
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>>127483147

>Portugal


ay lmao
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>>127493910
>that person is openly aggressive and charging at me from a mile away, while i can clearly see him approaching me

>>127494063
In the event of a nuclear attack both sides will fucking loose along whit the entire world

You can post your theories and US plans all you want, but that wont change the fact that if any side starts shit the world will get hit.
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>>127493769
>Yeah, just like the US never planned to nuke the moon, yah fucking moron
Fine lets assume that the Soviet Central Committee had no idea what they were talking about (because if you are correct, that the logical leap we have to make).


It doesn't matter, because, as has been pointed out, none of the missiles will survive so that they could be launched by Dead Hand.

So either way, your fanciful idea about Dead Hand doesn't factor in.
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>>127494330
>but that wont change the fact that if any side starts shit the world will get hit.
Not by the Russians, who's entire nuclear arsenal is destroyed.
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>>127493841
This, Funny how government shills display sheer arrogance magnitudes of order higher then your run of the mill shill.

>>127494063
I don't think it is currently called Dead Hand, but I mean hell, NORAD has the same damn set up here in the US, and its public information.

>Also, even if you think it does exist, it will have no missiles to launch because they have all been destroyed.
Alright, so tell me. Do you really think, that
world fucking leaders
who will be far more capable then you could ever hope of being. Who's fucking job it is to consider things like this
would be so stupid as to have all of their nukes in one or a handful of places, and very easily able to be destroyed by one targeted strike, which would make them entirely vulnerable to an attack that they themselves would somehow not have the capability to destroy, but somehow magically we fucking would?
Do you really think the information on even what is publicly known would be so readily available?

Well shit, then by what logic, according to you, is the reason why we have not
you know
FUCKING DONE THAT EXACT THING WITH NORTH FUCKING KOREA'S NUCLEAR STOCKPILE?
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>>127494507
now i wish that the USA would nuke Russia so that you would see that you are full of shit
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>>127479561
>Given to Ukrainian SSR in 40's-50's
Ukrainian SSR no longer exists
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>>127494336
>responding to the same post 3 times
You do realize this board uses IDs, right shill?
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Will they use American or Russian nukes?
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>>127492700
ANOTHER FUCKING LEAF
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>>127494685
fucking this
I'm just so fucking done with these people
the government shills are just the worst. just the sheer, mind-boggling arrogance of these people.
I can't fucking wait for SHFT, 9 years. 9 more fucking years (in keeping with the most stable current economic theories)
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>>127494685
>When you realize the only reason you had pride in your Slavic shithole is btfo
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>>127476551
cold war part 2 destroy the world this time???
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>>127493109
>being more loyal to a foreign power than to your own countryman
republicans aren't americans, they're traitors
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>>127494330
>US Missiles are that slow.
>USSR Missiles launch so quick.

Sure "theoretically" there might be a small chance.
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>>127494590
>I don't think it is currently called Dead Hand, but I mean hell, NORAD has the same damn set up here in the US, and its public information.
This is incorrect.
The only thing the US has is ALCS, which still needs a person to issue orders and activate it.

Even the ERCS, which is what Perimeter really is, wasn't automatic.

>Do you really think the information on even what is publicly known would be so readily available?
Next time you think that there are secret arsenals of nuclear weapons about, consider the last time someone discovered a hidden nuclear weapons base. It was called the Cuban Missile Crisis.


>>127494590
>FUCKING DONE THAT EXACT THING WITH NORTH FUCKING KOREA'S NUCLEAR STOCKPILE?
Because you don't understand what you are talking about. The costs and risks of hitting the arsenal are not worth its potential benefits.

Do you REALLY need someone to explain how you do a cost/benefit analysis?

>>127494685
>now i wish that the USA would nuke Russia so that you would see that you are full of shit
All you have are wishes. All you have are what you 'hope' has happened. Look at this guy: >>127494590
he is so triggered by the data that all he can do is hurl silly hypotheticals that have no factual basis and are in fact demonstrated historically to be bad ideas.
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>>127494590
>NORAD has the same damn set up here in the US, and its public information.
One other point to demonstrate your ignorance on this issue.

NORAD doesn't command any nuclear forces. STRATCOM does.
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This is a shill-thread, everyone. What is wrong with you?

Also

>>127476551

>It’s another mark of escalating tensions in the region due to continuing conflict in Ukraine and aggressive Russian activities across Europe, including a Kremlin-backed coup-attempt in Montenegro in October, complete with an assassination attempt on former Prime Minister Milo Djukanovic (Montenegro joined NATO in May.) Nikonov said these regional tensions, and their causes, are perceived very differently in Russia than in the West.

This (((assassination attempt))) is a cheap attempt at destabilizing the country in his own favor by Djukanovic, as he was afraid that he'd lose the elections on that day. The entire nation (ar at least the 30% or so who have functional graymatter) laughs at this (((incident))).

t. Montenigga
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>>127476551
>defenseone.com

These generic domain names are always fake news.

Of course Russia will be using nukes if anyone attacked Crimea because they consider it part of Russia.
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>>127477665
You could have done it yourselves instead of being surrender-monkeys. Now you don't have the US might to defend your faggot asses. Go ahead and do what Merkel says and poke the bear - see what happens. Putin is right to use nukes instead of being dragged into a endless war against the entire (((NATO))) forces.
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>>127476551
Putin knows too well that he can't support an endless war against the NATO kikes. The only solution for Russia is to show you can't fuck with them without getting your shit pushed in.
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>>127495932
http://thebulletin.org/how-us-nuclear-force-modernization-undermining-strategic-stability-burst-height-compensating-super10578

>Assuming that the 506 deployed W76-1s equipped with the super-fuze were used against Russian silo-based ICBMs, essentially all 136 Russian silo-based ICBMs could be potentially eliminated by attacking each silo with two W76-1 warheads—a total of 272 warheads. This would consume only 54 percent of the deployed W76-1 warheads, leaving roughly 234 of the 500 warheads free to be targeted on yet other installations.

> In all, the entire Russian silo-based forces could potentially be destroyed while leaving the US with 79 percent of its ballistic missile warheads unused.

>To destroy or expose the remaining launchers, United States planners would have the nuclear forces needed to undertake truly scorched-earth tactics: Just 125 US Minuteman III warheads could set fire to some 8,000 square miles of forest area where the road-mobile missiles are most likely to be deployed.

>Such a “warfighting attack” would likely begin with the detonation of a nuclear warhead in front of key early-warning radars. An explosion of a 455 kiloton Trident II warhead at an altitude of 1,300 to 1,400 kilometers would create an area of radar “blackout” that would prevent all Russian radars looking toward the United States and into the northern parts of the North Atlantic from observing US ballistic missiles as they rose over the radar horizon.

>US missile launches from the North Atlantic would be coordinated to rise over the radar horizon only after the Russian radars had been blinded. Even if the radars were not rendered ineffective, the Russians could reasonably expect to have no more than seven to 10 minutes of warning before Moscow was destroyed.

tl;dr Russia would get it's shit pushed in if they decided to go nuclear.

inb4 a bunch of triggered slavaboos chimp out, show lack of reading comprehension
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>>127495724
Shill here. Bumping to piss you off.
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>>127484252
>>127480517
putin said eastern ukraine too

which i agree with it because as he said, once an army is that close and has missile defence that close then russias capabilities are cucked.
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>>127476551
>Russia would be forced to use nuclear weapons
Like Russia would be forced to shoot down civilian airliners over Ukrainian territory? That kind of "forced"?

Putin is a murderous bastard.
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Russia will never do it, it is literally a beta fag trying to be alpha.
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>>127476551
Everyone know it was Putin provoking war with the US with his cyberwarfare attacks on America and his repeated threat to annihilate the West with nuclear war.

Putin has threatened to use nukes in Ukraine against the US
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3022793/Putin-threatens-nuclear-war-Russian-leader-necessary-step-drive-Nato-Baltics-defend-Crimea.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/31/putin-threatens-nuclear-war-over-ukraine.html

Putin has threatened to use nukes in Syria against the US
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/threatening-nuclear-weapons-syria-putins-attempt-get-russia-treated-like-superpower-again-1532600

Putin is threatening to use nukes in Norway against the US
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11886639/Russia-threatens-US-with-nuclear-arms-counter-measures.html

Putin is threatening Germany with nuclear war:
http://www.pravdareport.com/news/world/europe/16-12-2016/136434-russia_germany-0/

Putin has threatened to annihilate the US with nuclear war
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/putin-threatens-america-with-nuclear-annihilation/

Putin has threatened to launch a nuclear war if Hillary gets elected:
http://globalnews.ca/news/2998588/vladimir-putin-ally-threatens-nuclear-war-if-americans-vote-for-hillary-clinton/

Putin is the one willing to launch the nuclear strikes that trigger WWIII
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/567879/Vladimir-Putin-threatens-nuclear-attack-against-the-West
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>>127476551
Russia has decided to bring back nuclear strike trains for at least 5 army units, for a total capacity of 120 missiles. The modernized versions of the Soviet trains that were shelved in 1993 are meant to be a "trump card" in any Atomic war, as the sheer amount of trains on the railways will overwhelm the attackers capability to effectively strike against the nuclear capability of the country.
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bild.de%2Fpolitik%2Fausland%2Fwladimir-putin%2Frussland-atomzug-50753288.bild.html&edit-text=

Putin and the Kremlin are becoming increasingly aggressive in the threatening the world with nuclear war. Putin is really stepping up the fear propaganda on his people. They're being psyop-indoctrinated to fear war by Americans because Vladimir isn't getting his way. He's censoring the internet, unleashing armies of social media trolls and acting crazy like that little North Korean dictator, only shorter.

He assassinates his opponents, bombs schools and hospitals, violates our national security, manipulates our elections, conspires with the jews and muslims, blackmails our president, floods /pol/ with pro-Kremlin propaganda, fake news, slide threads and he's a clay-stealing kleptocrat.
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>>127481745
not even turkey belongs to turkey. they need to fuck off back to central asia. that whole region is christian clay.
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>>127477225
Ignore the kike shills
it's annudah one those: "we send american braindead goyims to fight our(((kike))) wars, so that we can profit they die" episodes.
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>>127496181

Pity and disgust are a more concise title for my feelings towards posters like you. *sigh*
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>>127476551
>Breaking: Russia has the same defense policy it had 50 years ago
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>>127476551

We're prepared to kill every single Russian man, women, and child. Go ahead make our day faggots.
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>>127494507
>russia nukes Israel instead
>donald gases all the kikes and liberals
>braindead consumer fat morons like yourself get sent to work camps
>problem fucking solved
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>>127496630
>Everyone know it was Putin provoking war with the US with his cyberwarfare attacks on America


you are so fucking bluepilled, it hurts !
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>>127496992
More like they are trying to look like they do.
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>>127496083
Sure thing buddy - that's a lot of assumptions.You couldn't do shit in Georgia and Ukraine and had to stay out of Syria. If Russia fires a single nuke at forces in Ukraine you will not dare go on a full strike as you will also suffer millions of casualties, even if all that remain are a few dozen nukes. Keep dreaming shart pants.
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>>127496630
We can only dream of Germanistan getting nuked
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>>127497350
>You couldn't do shit in Georgia
The US explicitly told Saakashvili they are staying out of it, before it even happened. He is just a moron.
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I think Russia has gone too far. It's about time the rest of the world disassembles the Russian Federation.
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We don't want any war with Russia. So we don't put any NATO forces on their territory.. period.
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>>127486481
the EU took ukraine by a political coup and
no one gives a fuck.... theres your problem.
its all going to shit anyway .. sorry
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>>127479561

I WISH RUSSIA WOULD NUKE TURKEY BUT THEN I REMEMBER YOU FUCKERS WOULD BE UNAFFECTED
>day of the raid would
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>>127477119
A
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>>127497103
>you are so fucking bluepilled, it hurts !
Yeah, except for all the hard core red-pilled evidence,
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>>127498548
>want war with the states
>do something obscure without any concrete evidence that it was you
>waah why are we still not at war

Your argument makes no sense? If putin wants war with America he should just attack us and claim responsibility
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>>127477083
God I just don't understand how there are so many delusional fucking morons like this guy. How can a certain segment of the American population be so fucking blind and stupid in regards to the current events going on around the world. There is a certain cancer, an infection that has plagued people in the United States. And like any infection, needs to be cut out in order for the organism to survive. People like this should be cut out. Because they are an infection on America.
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>>127479280
Jesus Christ man shut the fuck up, your trolling is terrible besides if actual war broke out I bet your pussy ass would run and hide
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>>127476551

Good!
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>>127495745
>Of course Russia will be using nukes if anyone attacked Crimea because they consider it part of Russia.
It's still Ukraine. Russian annexation was never recognized as valid, the Kremlin directly rigged the Crimean election and the ballot was purposely misleading. Putin is about to be exposed by a US intel surprise.
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When on the subject of nukes:
>>127495654
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>>127476551
"Russian lawmakers" have as much to say in their policies as a hobo with a wine bottle on the street.

No one would nuke anybody over a tiny shithole in middle of a pretend-country.
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>>127498877
>want war with the states
Putin it actively trying to diminish the West in the eyes of Russian citizens
The Kremlin is engaged in a series of disinformation campaigns to mischaracterize the West as "degenerate".


>do something obscure without any concrete evidence that it was you
There's a mountain of digital evidence proving it was GRU. IP addresses, locations, people, methods, code, techniques, all identifiers for your propaganda war, Denial is another Kremlin tactic when confronted with the charges. Just like you're doing now, Ivan.


PutinTrolls: Doesn't your agency directive instruct you to immediately abandon any /pol/ thread where you've lost control of your false narrative and force it to slide by posting a bunch of new, nonsensical threads?
>>waah why are we still not at war
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>>127491722
I like how the guy in the vid has the quintessential liberator face.
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>>127476551
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>>127484018
>>127484326
>>127485097
>>127485307
I knew that there will be that conversation even before i opened the thread.
/pol/ack transcendance
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>>127496684
please leave central asia alone, thanks.
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>>127476551

I love Ukraine more, coz they're literally NAZIS. Russia can go suck our dick, as it always does.
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Good. Fuck this gay earth!
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>>127477083
Democrats are too easy to spot.
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>>127477490
>Ukrainian-America
Yeah, we don't count you as real Americans anymore than we count Mexicans.
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Putin is such a loser. America has enough nukes to wipe out Russia in a first strike.
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We can't let these continued aggressions go unanswered
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>>127483884
I got the grill going a couple days ago, it was really nice outside.
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>>127504571
lol Russia's nuclear arsenal is far more advanced than ours, we pissed away our money and technological edge fighting wars for Greater Israel and buying overpriced defective weapons systems from kikey defense contractors.
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>>127489288
>>127504110
Slavs killing slavs, what could be more joyful!
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>>127476551

based russians

americans are all talk in regards to them, this isn't the 90s where american jewry infiltrated russia, putin has his own jews now
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The entirety of planet fucking earth is rightful American clay.

We'll decide who controls what and fuck what any of you faggots have to say about it.
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>>127477490

> are you retarded
> yes

never change cockholsters
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you guys don't even know the type of shit putler's doing

and he drops hints all the time too

the main ones being

ASYMMETRICAL WARFARE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5TfkM4L5r8
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>>127476551
>in any conflict in which U.S. or NATO forces entered eastern Ukraine
Then let's enter and take St.Petersburg and go from the other side and take Siberia. They didn't say anything about that.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjU8Fg3NFmo

what a man

is someone is going to take down the american jewry for profits of the russian jewry, it will be him

god bless
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>>127479561
Coming from the roaches that stole most of Armenia's lands
Quality shitpost memit keep up the Turkish arts
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>>127476551
SHUT DOWN THE MISSILE
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtYD7hMk09Q

> there are people on this board shilling against this based man
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>>127477490
Ukrainians are the worst people in the world
A Jewkrainian with American education .... Now that's a whole new level of retardation
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>>127507678

Nah, they're fine. I'd rather have Ukrainians and other eastern europeans coming in droves to Cuckada, than chinks, musrats, and nignogs. Australia should have them.

>>127504992

Exactly! Why matryoshkas want to exterminate other white and Christian nations such as Ukraine, Georgia, and Moldova is just beyond me.
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>>127479561
goddam you roaches are funny. i needed that, cheers.
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>>127509707
>Why matryoshkas
Only...
http://archive.is/QutiI
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>>127509707
>>127510456
...them?
http://archive.is/zbg16
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>>127510731
>https://archive.fo/K30Bw
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>>127476551
Russia is gay as fuck. Literally the home of all things nigger.
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>>127477490
(((Ukrainian America)))
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>>127480520
Fucking commie
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>>127480805
So it's better to be a beta American cuck? We have to show our dominance against vodka.
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>>127478535
sell us some nukes, we might be in nato but our polls show we'll side with russia. Give us nukes and we'll fuck them up too. They can't really nuke us back cause they'll also fuck up Italy and Austria :))
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>>127511910
This.
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>>127512249

modern nuclear weapons do not have meme-yields like the nukes of old, because they are much more accurate

the meme of "boo-hoo they gon nuke this and you won't be able to walk there" is one of the most retarded things normies have come up with

tactical weaponry nowadays is very well made, and the old MAD nukes of old are still there, but when MAD is in play cards are off the table.

also entering a strategic alliance with russia would be much more beneficial, than dreaming about someone selling you nukes
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>>127480520

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-4G60Mr8-o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9OlfhUwnNc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgNChZrWNmI

nigga please
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>>127476551
>>127476551
Didn't they say ww3 if america bombed syria? Putin's all bluster. We need to lay some crippling sanctions on Russia until he shut's his mouth
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>>127478535
>being this delusional
Russia is the one encroaching on other countries ckaims.
Russia is the one threatening escalation.
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Crimea is our clay
Thank you Russia for defending it
We will take it back when a good time comes
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>>127510456

Unfortunately, you are not our friendz or alliez. Matryoshkaz are our enemy.
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>>127510731

<<Beautiful social realism artpiece! kek
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>>127510731
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>>127515145
Deep inside you're know that it is the only way. Sooner or later, everything changes, bro.
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>>127476551

The Anglo-Zionists need their shit slapped, that is for sure.

We need a stronger Russia and a multi-polar world once again, since the Chinks are worthless bitch betas only too happy to take it up the ass so as long as they get to keep their American dollars.
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>>127515995
Fuck off back to russia ivan, WE WILL ANHILLIATE RUSSIA
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>>127495237
I am loyal to those that uphold the social contract that maintains my lifestyle.
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But that's always been the strategy. Even back in soviet days they'd eventually lose a conventional war to NATO (although after horrendous losses on both sides) unless they started launching their arsenal.
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>>127477083

You realize you are doing (((their))) bidding?
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>>127476551
So you're saying all we have to do to get LA and NYC nuked is to put a single soldier in Crimea?
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>>127480805
>he hasn't already constructed his own self-sufficient nuclear bunker with 64tb of 4k weebshit archived
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>>127477083
retard everybody dies if nuclear war occurs
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>>127476551
blah blah no one ever does shit
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