UK Uni is a joke

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Why go to uni anyway?

Like yours is any better. You are getting your forced gender issue class, or else you won't even graduate at all, and if you do all you can get are underpaid jobs or crippling debt. Keep the good work up.

>>127458820
defer adulthood another 4-8 years

>>127458660
It doesnt help that it also costs a fuckton

>>127458660
Which uni was this at lad?
I'm going to Cardiff soon, but if that doesn't work out I have a permanent at lefty Oxford

I 100% feel you dawg, finished up last week and i'm actually disgusted by the standard of it, especially for how much it costs. I want a refund. Also, UKIPs education proposal is great.

>>127458660
Fairly sure universities are a meme around the world outside of top 3-5 for each country.
Everyone seems to have stories like yours.

t. Meme degree that parents really wanted me to have

5 years of my life wasted.

Distance learning lads. Have a normal life while getting your education part-time. Takes longer of course but when you're learning you are actually learning and not being distracted but trivial uni shit.

>>127459261
My experience was at shit-tier Plymouth University. Admittedly not the best, but I was just on exchange.

>>127458660
I managed to be the last year that got in before they tripled the course fees. I thought I got ripped off, but paying over £9000 a year to basically get told what books to read is a complete farce.

>>127459443
I expected better from the UK since American education has such a bad reputation. Uni in the UK is literally just self-directed study and a drinking club. Might as well do Khan Academy.

>>127458660
Uni in America:
>Can't legally drink till 21 so American students just get smashed with their little red plastic cups
>Weird /4 GPA system that confuses the rest of the world
>Peculiar concepts of Majors and Minors which takes away the idea of specialising in any area
>Forced to sleep with another student of the same gender in order to prevent from masturbating or having sex
>Need to take auxiliary modules like gender & feminism in order to ramp up credits
>No such thing as a graduate scheme
>Get 100k in debt

But yeah I agree the whole 3rd year is everything is BS

>>127460162
>Can't legally drink till 21 so American students just get smashed with their little red plastic cups
Better than the degenerate lifestyle of UK first year students.

>Weird /4 GPA system that confuses the rest of the world
Because the "class" grading system makes so much more sense. "First" "2:1" "2:2" What the fuck?

>Peculiar concepts of Majors and Minors which takes away the idea of specialising in any area
In America you can choose your classes and specialize your degree how you want it. In the UK everyone is forced like cattle into the same shitty standardized programs. You don't learn anything anyway since everyone is drunk.

>Forced to sleep with another student of the same gender in order to prevent from masturbating or having sex
I worked and had my own apartment. It's all free choice.

>Get 100k in debt
I went to a State University for free. Scholarships reward academic success. In the UK you pay the same price that Oxford students pay even if you go to a useless shit-tier school.

>>127459268
Rebbit go back

>>127459540
You did a shit degree then, most Bscs are worth 10% at plymouth for first year and have lots of contact hours...

>>127461426
Should be worth 33%. There is no good reason why first year shouldn't be weighted equally with second and third. This system encourages fucking off, partying, and learning nothing.

>>127461804
No it shouldn't, second and third year are significantly harder and should be worth more.
And the drinking / partying here is a good thing if you're not weird.

...i want to go to a uk university for my liberal arts degree lads, suggestions?

>>127458660
I wish it was like this in here, the first year in college in any degree are the fucking hardest, 50 people enter the degree only 20 pass to second year, and then only 15 pass to the third.

I'm currently at 3rd year and I'm shitting bricks

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>>127458660
What makes me rage about uni in the uk is the first year or so you dont even study the course you signed up for.

Im studying marine biology and had to take fucking law and history courses etc in 1st year then more slightly less random subjects in 2nd.

Dont know if its the same as the US but it really pissed me off.

every year counts you nigger
what you put into uni is what you get out of it after graduation

Ameriburger is confused because in the US they have to take (and pay for) completely unrelated classes like sexism and womyn studies regardless of their course. He assumes we have little lecture time but most their lectures are fucking useless.
Also you spend 2 years getting taught algebra and calculus because your school system is too third world to do that so when you reach uni you're pretty much illiterate by first world standards.

just LOL if ur not

oxbridge
UCL/Imperial/LSE

or specified courses at other unis +daddys connections / spare flat in primrose hill

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I thought bong school was like harry potter

this is bullshit

>>127458660
You do realise that students are expected to study and practice in their own time too right?

>>127462405
>What makes me rage about uni in the uk is the first year or so you dont even study the course you signed up for.
Neither of those things are true. For a STEM degree in the US, you might have to take two or thee "humanities" electives. I chose a foreign language class and music theory. Other than that, it's all major-related classes.

Only dumb niggers have to take remedial classes. Those people are are basically attending the equivalent of Sixth form (college).

>live in Scotland
>get university completely free so it doesn't matter what you do anyway

I think I'm just gonna stay at uni and get free money for being a student in Scotland :^)

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>>127458660
>UK
>post the flag of the Kingdom of Great Britain

>>127462713
How's Warwick for Economics?

>>127458885
This, at least my Uni doesn't make us take black history classes or else fail us. American Uni is a joke. Also most American Uni's make you take a room mate if you live in halls, at least I have my own damn room.

>>127461804
Maybe you should have studied something significant at a non-shit uni m80

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>>127464285
They group students in double rooms so that one can snitch on the other in case he starts showing signs of wanting to shoot people.

Vid related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsbIdSGwoEs

This student was obviously a potential shooter. If he had his own room he would have a stockpile of firearms and pipe bombs. The system prevented that by placing him together with a Chad to frequently interrupt his antics before his delusions became too severe.

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>>127464285
>have to live with another guy in the room
>take a slag back your dorm
>roomate forced to watch

no wonder cuckolding is so popular across the pond.

Graduated two weeks ago with a CS degree and minor in Mathematics. Came out debt free with Latin honors and distinction in major. Smoked pot and drank 5 out of the 7 days a week all 4 years while playing video games. Suck a dick nerds.

>>127464714
>having to share a room with a literal dudebro
I think I'd an hero

>>127462360
When I was there we only did related modules then speciallised later, with still a good bredth

>>127458660
>Year 3: OH FUCK WE HAVE TO WRITE A DISSERTATION WORTH 95% OF OUR GRADE AND WE HAVEN'T LEARNED ANYTHING IN THE LAST 4 WEEKS.

Fixed.

>>127464244
>
ye, thats a good one

not an oxford ppe ting but if you work hard and purposefully you won't be hindered

>>127465119
I got my offer.
Let's see if I get something worthwhile in India otherwise I'm coming.

>>127463819
good eye.

too bad you are a weaboo faggot

>>127458660
t. A uni student who never got laid

>>127458660
Year 1 is 0.

Year 2 is 40%

Year 3 is 60%.

Really not that hard to understand senpai.

You're all such dumb fucks. Only poorfags have to live in shared dorms to save money. Most people at least have private rooms, many get apartments off-campus.

Also perpetuating the meme that gender studies or nigger history is required when it is not.

>>127466157
I wouldn't be proud of fucking disgusting easy club slags. Getting laid at uni in the UK is as easy as going on a night out and choosing one of hundreds of drunk sluts.

>>127467678
You write like you never did though, which societies here were you a part of?

>>127458660

Thats the wrong flag anon.

>>127468009
Basketball, Hockey, American Football, Eng,
I went trans and joined netball club too.

>>127462802
That's for the posh kids

>>127468686
How come you left before the summer ball then?
Your writing sounds like you were going full Elliot rodgers but you say you were a part of a lot of societies..

>>127463539
They add inflation costs to that debt every year.

It stops feeling "free" very quickly.

>>127458660
Yeah the year I went to uni in the U.K. was the easiest I've ever had. A lot of fun.

Look up the typical day at a university in Russia or China in comparison

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>>127458660
First-year bong in uni now, feeling pretty good man. the government is paying me to get absolutely paralytic on a daily basis. i dont actually mind though because it was either going to go to me or some paki's with no job and 19 kids. studying law btw

>>127468968
Want my life story?
>Meet GF on her exchange year to US
>Go to Plymouth last year on exchange with her
>I hated the UK
>She just finished 3rd year and her dissertation
>She also hates the UK

>>127461037
Old fag who's paying for this shit here.

3 year Bachelor degree at Oxford/Cambridge costs about 1/3 as much as a 4 year degree from a meh-tier school in the US.

Outside London+Oxbridge, cost is nearer 1/4.

As an employer, I found most US grads worthless. Only exception is schools like Bentley which turn out decent back office people.

>>127469409
Which uni la

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>>127458660
Don't go to at shit university then.

All of the ex-polytechnics should be shut down and reopened as vocational schools again.
The rest of the "new unis" can go fuck

>>127470275
>As an employer, I found most US grads worthless. Only exception is schools like Bentley which turn out decent back office people.
Did you fall for the *paying for college* meme? Good students get scholarships. Excellence is rewarded in the US. Why would anyone hire an employee from the UK when most students there spend 2/3 of their time at uni fucking off.

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>>127470707
Alexei Sayle nailed it years back: the corner shop near his mum's home in Liverpool is now "The Patel School of Retail Management".

>>127458660
Go to a decent university. 80% of the universities here are no different from the average American "community college".

>>127470973
https://www.ukuni.net/articles/types-uk-universities
Almost anything that would be categorized as "The Rest" here exist solely as a cash grab from people that are going to Uni because it's the "done thing" or they want to get wasted for a couple years. Government subsidised watering holes.
I blame Labour.

>>127471197
I hope the culture is better at good universities. Academics wasn't even my main issue with the uni in the UK; it was the lack of anything to do other than drink.

>>127470951
Eldest was offered a scholarship by Chicago. Cambridge was still better, quicker and cheaper.

Chicago didn't even require election of a major until the 4th year. What a fucking waste of time and money.

US undergrad spend all their time stitching together a portfolio of easy credits. Unless they're studying something highly numerate, or something vocational, they're never required to learn anything soup-to-nuts.

YMMV, I'm sure things are different in the food service industry.

>>127471458
If you weren't at a Russell Group Uni at the very minimum you got fucked hard.

>>127458660
All of what you said except the first year doesn't count only applies if you study journalism or some other dogshit degree.

>>127462146
Don't come we all ready have enough of a problem with immigrants

>>127470275
>Outside London+Oxbridge, cost is nearer 1/4.
Tuition fees here are basically standardized though... I assume that applies to international students as well?
Unless you're just talking about living costs, but Oxfordshire and Cambridgeshire aren't that expensive

>tfw in doing biomedical sciences at manchester uni

Shit course at a shit uni. Ontop of that, im also getting braces done IN MY 1ST YEAR.

Fuck this shit.

>>127472747
In what world is Manchester a shit uni? Or do you mean Manchester Met or w/e the sister is called?

>>127471971
Im sure all these Austrian immigrants are causing trouble lad.

>>127471597
>Chicago didn't even require election of a major until the 4th year. What a fucking waste of time and money
Implying you can't select a major during first year and stick with it. Even if you change majors 5 times, you still have to complete the major requirements. Look at the major requirements for any STEM degree or other real degree. These programs have set requirements. I couldn't get my degree without: Four semesters of calculus/DE, several physics classes, several chemistry courses, 14 major-specific engineering courses.

Liberal arts degrees don't count as real education in the UK or the US.

Should have sent your Eldest to Chicago. Could have been the next Obama.

>>127471458

anything outside of london/oxbridge/or the old historical university towns you 90% just get a load of subhuman brits who have not been bred properly

>>127472971
Keep your delicious strudel out of our country we don't want it here

>>127472938

Manchester is a shithole. I had the option of queens belfast, b'ham or manchester. Norn ireland didnt have a good night life and manchester is boring. I wish i toopk birmingham desu.

>>127464996
So what shit do they teach you in CS? I'm about to go to college and I'm thinking of saving the money and just teaching myself because I heard you're not taught anything useful in it, I already know quite a bit of Java and I want to specialize in it. Did you do any of that or was it all logic diagram bullshit?

Not a poo btw

>>127472319
About four or five years ago, when I last looked, London Universities, Oxford and Cambridge cost about GBP10k per year more than the rest.
this includes some blurring of accomodation expenses and "college fees" for Oxbridge.

Thanks to Brexit, it all looks so cheap (for a dollar payer) that I haven't even bothered to update my numbers.

>>127462146
http://search.ucas.com/search/providers?Vac=1&AvailableIn=2017&Query=liberal arts

These are the liberal arts courses in our unis. I go to Kings College (doing a master's there). Keep in mind being in London will be a lot more expensive than anywhere else, but it's manageable if you share a house with other students. I share one with 3 other.

Depends on whether you want to be in a large city or small desu.

>>127473135
There are like 30 unis in London and most are nogos
>>127473178
Do you mean the city itself? If so it's at least better than Birmingham - that place is actually awful.

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>>127473251
>Java flag wants to learn Java
You make ancestor proud little Java.

>>127473026
>Could have been the next Obama.
Sadly, he's melanisticly challenged, so not an option.

>>127458660

That's if you go for a shit degree, Anon.

If you don't, it's usually pretty hard.

>>127473529
kek never heard that one before, I had some Puerto Rican spic call it a lemon once

>>127473370
Right. I can't say that I'm familiar with how collegiate systems work in regard to any extra fees they try on with you. Also, tuition and accommodation fees are usually handled separately here.
I do know that when applying for a student visa you are required to demonstrate that you have enough money for living costs at about £1000~ a month. That's not to do with the universities though and I don't think living expenses would rack up to that much for most people.

>>127458660
>Burger calling out uk uni
>writing "black lives matter" 100 times gets you into harvard

UK university is shocking though. I was expecting an intellectual battleground, the exchange of ideas. But it's brain washing & hand holding all the way through. Standards of entry are unbelievably low, thanks to Blair wanting everyone to go to uni.

>>127473727
Anyway, good luck learning computers, i was too dumb to succeed. Also good luck removing roaches. Cyprus is neat, i went there as a kid and spent the whole vacation playing in a landfill with homeless people and wild dogs.

>>127473496

at least in London you have proximity to a global upper tier of business/history/people, you won't get that in cardiff LMAO.

its far better to go somewhere central and average like the university of westminster simply for the experience and the three years of hard observation / lifestyle

london is still the most rich, most aesthetic, most intelligent, best place to find bae location in the UK

yes it represents the fall of the West, but there still remains an old-breed there,

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It's basic statistics:
>30 years ago, you'd need an IQ of 115 to go to University.
>That's +1 s.d. or about 17% of the population.
>Now politicians want 50% of kids to go to University.
The degrees (and colleges) can't be of the same standard as in the past. The rot started earlier in the US with the GI Bill. US college is now remedial High School (at undergrad level).

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>>127474078
Where'd you go? If you went up north it's been a 3rd world Muslim hellhole for the last 30 years. The greek southern part is on par with Greece

Thanks m9, and dont beat yourself up about it, I can program decently now and I'm 18, no degree or anything. If you learn the basics it's fun and rewarding, and easy as all hell

GETTIN MESSY WIV THE LADS BOYSSS WAHEEEEEY SO HAPPY I TOOK WOMEN'S STUDIES

>>127459519
Yeah instead you're distracted by work and finding a mate and, presumably (normal life), children.

>>127458660

fuck off fatty i shagged 15 birds at uni and got a third

je ne regrette rien

>>127474656
115 IQ is still pretty retarded, I'd rank myself around 120 just because I was always better than most people around me, but then you meet people that make you feel retarded

Brighton uni student here
They force us to watch interacial cuckold porn
and to wear gay pride wristbands
please kill me

>>127474604
>global upper tier of business/history/people
That wholly depends on what you want to do.
If your interest is in Finance/Business then yes London and especially LSE (an actually well regarded uni) would be the place to go.
But if you're interested in something like Physics you're going to be surrounded by much better prospects in Manchester or if you're doing Linguistics you're going to find a lot more adept professors in Sheffield.
It's really not so black and white.

>>127475059
That's 15 cunts who will never have a stable family.

Going to Sussex university soon, anyone here been there? Seems pretty good but it must be filled with commies.

Anything to get out of Wales though

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>>127458660
>be at math & physics department at ETH Zurich many years ago
>first year exams are all at the end of the "summer break"
>point is so you can study hard during the summer
>pass-fail rate is 50%
>many don't even try to get into the ETH as it is damn hard

Anyone who studies at a university and spends his or her time drinking and whoring is a failure to society.

The ETH Zurich is the top continental European university by far... for a reason.

>>127474790
>I can program decently now and I'm 18
>If you learn the basics it's fun and rewarding, and easy as all hell
You'll learn to hate it by age 30. You'll also pick up increasingly bad coding practices along the way until your code looks like it was obfuscated purposefully. This happens to 90% of coders.

>>127475479
>The ETH Zurich is the top continental European university by far... for a reason.
Money and networking?

>>127475530
>This happens to 90% of coders.
Once you hit 35 and started coding when you were 10 during the early 1990s, and you are still at it, you know what you are doing.

Coding is all about discipline combined with knowing when and how to use the right discipline.

If I see badly commented and non-understandable code, I know I got a rookie or a moron in front of me.

>>127475651
Hard work. Students work hard. Professors work hard.

Yes, there is money as well, but it is the quality of the university that attracts it and attracts the best researchers and professors. The students are still mostly Swiss, so it isn't the quality of base material, but the quality of the system that makes it great.

>>127475770
>when and how to use the right discipline.
sorry, I meant to say "when and how to use the right tools".

>>127475530
I don't think I'll learn to hate it because I don't plan to work for anyone, if I get sick of it I could always find a new gig like investing or something. Like I said it's a hobby that can be very lucrative, and the only way to be successful with it is to not be enslaved by a mega kike reaping the benefits of your work.

I can agree with the bad practices part

>>127475889
>but it is the quality of the university that attracts it and attracts the best researchers and professors.
So if you had a university where people worked harder, but had less money do you think the best researchers and professors would go there? Not shitting on Zurich or anything it's just that a university can't be really great without money and then you just snowball attract better researchers and professors and naturally better students follow, because you set standards and smart people want to be thought by people that are relevant in the field. I really thought that Japan would also be on it, they're Asian and have moniez.

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>>127459540

Is plymouth bad? Im going there in september I thought it was nice

>>127458660
Yes it is.

>>127458660
Only unis in Poland have something to offer desu. In terms of knowledge not prestige

>>127476844
Idk about the area generally but the Uni isn't even on my radar

>>127475770
Oh I'm not saying veteran coders don't know what they're doing, just that they don't fucking care anymore. It's what happens when you spend too much time in the industry. Only the 20-somethings with a Pepsodent smile seem to even give a shit about their work, the rest just sort of "get it done". I've met many a software engineer who had this weird "fuck it all" attitude about their work even though they were passionate about coding when they were younger. As a result there's very little actually good code out there and why every system is full of security holes.

I guess it happens to all people eventually. They get jaded and start thinking of their jobs as just a way to get a paycheck.

>>127476844

I almost went there, said fuck that and went to the Netherlands instead for a fifth of the price.

>>127458660
Sounds like you're doing a shit course at a shit uni mate.

My first year counted.
I had 36 contact hours of lectures and labs a week.

Try doing something other than 'Gender Bias in Archaeology' Moron.

>>127477240
>I guess it happens to all people eventually. They get jaded and start thinking of their jobs as just a way to get a paycheck.
It's because the paycheck sucks for the shit that you do

>>127458660
>spends the year drinking and whoring out

OH HEY, YOU MET MY EX?

You''re right.

My home uni in the UK (Leeds) makes us do "discovery modules" which are classes completely unrelated to your course, which I assume is because most courses don't have enough classes to fill a program because I know full well mine doesn't.

>>127470275
>>127472319
Oxford and Cambridge are not particularly more expensive than other universities. Cambridge is really cheap, actually (depending which college you go to).

>>127475300

they all had daddy issues anyway kek

>>127458660
true. By year 3 I knew nothing

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>>127472747
Manchester is a sick place and Manchester Uni is a good university based on rankings. The braces thing sucks though - try to get crystal braces like I did. People barely notice them.

>>127458660
The worst is community college. It's such a fucking meme. There are no standards to grading so teachers can fuck over students. Just a few memories.
>Be one of 2 students to get above a C in a class of 25 for Calc 2. The majority of students failed or dropped.
>Get the highest grade for Organic chemistry in my class, B+
>Linear Algebra: Everyone got an A
>Differential Equations: Got a 98 without trying.

I went back to college after a long time out of school. Did shitty in High School but had great SAT scores. Did great at community college. Couldn't even transfer to most state schools because I'm a white guy. Ended up at a second tier private school, on pace for Magna Cum Laude.
Not that it matters because colleges will see the school I graduated from and toss my resume into the trash.

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>>127458660
Universities are becoming complacent with all this free money that they get. Basically the only focus is numbers- as in how many students can we convince to stay. Tonnes of people are dropping out because of apathetic PhD tutors that suck at connecting with their students and encouraging /some/ level of interest. Not to mention the ever increasing subjects that virtually train you to be the perfect little liberal robot.

>>127478869
the higher education act in 1992 is pretty much solely responsible for this

>>127478393

Well technically bham uni is higher ranked than manchester uni. Lol

As for braces. I think the nhs gives the big metal ones. Can you believe this. If only i wore my retainer. So embarassing. None of my friends have them.

Imperial College god tier mech eng student reporting in. We might be overrun with chinks and pajeets, but at least it's mentally stimulating and I'm actually surrounded by clever people.

>>127479374
Too bad your rugby team is dog shite

>>127479180
>Well technically bham uni is higher ranked than manchester uni. Lol
In what world? The only league table that reports it like that is CUG which is a fucking joke. Their methodology is absolutely useless.

CS grad from Manchester uni.

Was nothing pissy about our course really, pretty much what I expected and what I got. Seems I got lucky.

We had 20-24 contact hours a week + the same amount of lab work & assignments.

I couldn't believe that some people I knew had 8 hours a week of fuck all. What a joke.

>>127458660
Git Gud retard

>>127475121
Bs. I did not get that shit

>>127458885
>taking a shitty class to appease some clowns means getting a shitty education
No wonder you can't break the top 20

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>>127460162
>unis in britain
>get a piece of paper from a top 1000000 university and pretend you're educated

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>>127482356
Funny that I can get into University of Michigan on fucking Cs and Ds from the UK

>>127482755
Funny I am in brighton but I see no gays in my course

>>127458660
Agreed desu. I have a first-class BSc, distinction MSc, and currently studying for a PhD - and still feel like I've barely learned anything during my time in education. I typically only had six to ten contact hours per week, the rest was all self-directed study. The whole system has been turned into a massive degree factory where the actual education itself is just an irrelevant aside. Millennials like to talk about how difficult it is and how they're having to pull all-nighters to get assignments done in time, but it really is incredibly easy for anyone with discipline.

If I had my way, the whole system would be changed. A small number of universities (Russell Group plus a few others) should retain their status, whilst the rest should be returned to polytechnics. Current university intake should be cut by 90%. The majority of school-leavers should go into apprenticeships and professional training courses, either through the polytechnics or directly through business. Then, those who are serious about academia (and have the very high grades to prove it) should go to university. It should take five years to get a degree at 35-40 hours per week, but it should be a paid position (something low, like £20k). We have the best universities in the world, but the quality of student they're turning out (myself included) is abysmal.

>>127458660
I assume this only happens in meme degrees am I right?

>>127458660
Do a decent subject.

>>127458660
Well, if you took responsibility for your studies, you'd do fine in year 3. You'd not fuck as many slags though, but why is that something you'd even want to do?

>>127458660
>post-2010
>going to university (in north america or western europe)
It's so fucking easier to spend 6 months struggling to get a job without official qualification, showing companies that you have motivation and skills they need, instead of wasting YEARS throwing money at propaganda and learning basically nothing.

I started working when I was 18 and it was a great choice.

>>127467678
If it was that easy how come I managed to go through three years of being drunk at uni and stay a virgin?

>>127484935
Checkmate atheists

Education is big business. When working, its more about who you know

Here it is, you can do the three year, but if you actually want to do something with your life get a placement between 2nd and 3rd year. Best case you've got a grad job, worst case you've got a step up against everyone else when you go back in final year because you've worked full time and you've got a years experience. Oh, and do STEM, incase that was unclear.

> University is pretty much worthless now
> Yet so many jobs desire candidates with degrees when it wasn't the case years ago, a few years at a college used to suffice
> People who chose not to go to Uni either find jobs or can't...and have to consider going to one of those brainwashing places anyway
> A lot of people who do graduate end up struggling to find a job that their qualification is actually useful for and end up working a coffee shop if the employer doesn't care about overqualified workers

What can you say?

>>127485864
That being said, a guy who's doing what I do for work did four years in the army instead and gets paid more despite us doing the same thing, so that works too!

>>127458660
Stop doing shitty courses. I've got a Bachelors in Construction and worked my ass off.

Apologies if your fucking English Literature course was a bit of a fucking cakewalk, I'm sure it'll come in handy when you go to work in Costa.

>>127458660
What is it with all the fucking dipshits in this thread saying 'Uni'? It is imprecise, ugly, and is derived from the same liberal decadence that made the word literally mean figuratively, and how the actual fuck did they get away with that one anyway??
Academia is supposed to be an enlightened, precise, educated area, yet the liberal infestation has insidiously corrupted the foundations of it.

>>127458660
>OH FUCK WE HAVE TO WRITE A DISSERTATION WORTH 95% OF OUR GRADE AND WE HAVEN'T LEARNED ANYTHING.
What sort of shit university do you go to? I do CS at York and the dissertation is only worth 40%. The rest is done in module exams/coursework.

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>>127486823
I'm an American dumbass. I'll be working at Starbucks.

>Had to go to uni to learn construction

>>127486917
It's useful shorthand.
Also literally doesn't necessarily mean figuratively.
Prescriptivism isn't cool anymore dude.

>>127487588

Literally is now literally defined as either literally or figuratively.

>>127458660
>Year 3

What sort of idiot does anything other than a 4 year degree

>>127488013
I'd say it's just taken on a meaning of emphasis without literal-ness or figurative-ness being relevant.

>>127487588
>dude
Do you even comprehend the problem? By being lax in how you speak, and by adopting shorthand and using abbreviations as standard words, you effectively bastardise the language and end up with a linguistic shitshow that is harder to learn or adopt, and speaks of the decadence permeating society nowadays.

>>127458660
>>Year one: Literally counts for nothing. Grades don't matter so everyone spends the year drinking and whoring out.

Can you explain this a little more? Grades mean nothing? Year 2 is barely worth your final grade...? What

Also is a fucking dissertation literally 95% of your final grade?

Uni in the UK is only 3 years, the fuck?

>Fall for the STEM Meme, fuck up A-levels hard and end up going to fucking University of Hertfordshire on Clearing
>Still manage to end up at a major pharma company a couple of years later

Just get relevant work experience for the job you want. It will carry you so much fucking further than a slip of paper from a university. Oh, and never be a listless, do-nothing NEET. Even if it's volunteer work it's something you can bullshit about while NEET.

Hell, even if it's just going to the gym and getting swole it's something to bullshit.

>>127458660
You're problem is, you go to some shit-tier 'institution'. Be in year one of an LLB at UCL and get back to me. Pleb.

>>127488296
I'd be interested in your objective evidences for language bastardisation

>>127489216
I'd be interested in your evidence for how modern English came into being without the bastardisation of old English.

Pro-tip: You can't disprove what i said.

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>>127458660
What is this???
An amerishartlet making a thread mocking other countries' education?

Nigget you must be fucking me in the ass Lmao!
don't even thing for 1 millisecond that the whole world isn't laughing at your edu- ughm DEBT system you Dumb cheeseburger with fries.

>be muricn
>get eternally in debt
>get fat and sick
>die

There, the murican circle of life and enslavement Lmao

>>127488597
>Just get relevant work experience for the job you want
And what do you do if you just can't get the work experience because they won't take anyone on without so many years of experience and / or a degree?

I didn't go down the university route myself but damn, shit hasn't gone my way with a path to work (IT by the way...)

>>127461037
> "First" "2:1" "2:2" What the fuck?

It's literally just the same as letter grades. First = 70+%, 2:1 = 60-70%, 2:2 = 50-60%, 3rd = 40-50%. Explain GPA to me RIGHT NOW.

>>127490048
How exactly are you operationalising bastardisation?

>>127458660
This is 100% the truth. If you actually work on the subject you're reading, then people act like dumb kids and call you a geek and weird, while they piss all their wealthy parents' money down the drain on drugs, clubs and dressing like a nigger

>>127458660

>tfw missed out on unislags

My only regret in not going to university.

Grow the fuck up, University is for you to learn, not for some one else to do the learning for you. I see this all the time... Uni isn't high school. Don't go if you're not interested. I'm sick of having to pass lazy plebs like you because the University needs your money.

Finnish Universities are even better. Like 5% of the students actually attend lectures.

>>127462360
What uni are you at? I'm at my local uni, studying business and we had business modules throughout 1 st year.

>>127488588
Year 1 doesn't count towards your final grade.

The remaining 2 years vary in relative weightings. My CS degree was 3:1 year 3 : year 2.
Dissertation/Project was 50% of year 3 so 37.5% for me.

Most retards literally buy into the
>no marks doesn't count lol do w/e lmao

Failing to realise that those are your foundations necessary to understand the subsequent more technical material.

It's all down to you really. Can't speak for non STEM but I'm sure it's shit.

>>127458660
>>127490553

Yup. I was always interested in Media Studies because it is psychology, sociology and art wrapped in one.

So always a complex evolving puzzle that needs examining. A pretty serious subject.

No one ever had anything interesting to talk about the subject apart from that they liked X film.
That is all they had. It was the most alienating experience.

>>127488588
That crap depends on the Uni and OP has already admitted then he went to a polytech
Yes standard is 3 years. There's no soul-searching/foundational year here. Although, a lot of courses are putting a sandwich year of industry/abroad placement in now

>>127491704
>Year 1 doesn't count towards your final grade.

So do you even have assignments or is it literally just attending lectures?

What exactly did you do for the dissertation project? It seems like a long essay or something? How hard is it?

>>127459443
>meme degree
>5 years wasted

why not taking any language courses while studying some meme shit, so you have at least that?
how about just going to some lectures/courses you like or find interesting and keep expanding your knowledge in a certain field? maybe you need 1 or 2 years more to get a degree, but at least you would have gotten some knowledge. if you just do your exams and speedrun some degrees, don't be surprised when this backfires

>>127492075
>Yes standard is 3 years. There's no soul-searching/foundational year here. Although, a lot of courses are putting a sandwich year of industry/abroad placement in now

I feel like America should actually adopt 3 year bachelors honestly. We take 1-2 years worth of fucking gen eds

>>127491310
Where the fuck did you study? We had 50% mandatory attendancy at most of our courses in TAMK, even a few courses with 100% mandatory attendancy. Not a lot of courses where you could just show up to the exams, although the ones where you submit weekly exercises usually didn't require you to attend the classes.

Fucking lab classes, you had to attend every single god damn time because apparently our lab equipment was in heavy use and accounted for to the hour as a result.

>>127492214
Yeah gened that's what I meant. In the UK that brainwashing crap is done during the last two years of secondary school instead - something called general studies.
I don't see that happening anytime soon for the US though, it seems to me that adding the extra year is too good for unis money wise.

>>127458660
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqcK53mBuYE

Is going to Uni for arts a bad idea? I want to be a lawyer but heard that law is a bad idea. Advice?

>>127490390
When certain words are misspelled or misread, or when shorthand is used in referring to long words, which then go on to become integrated into the language. For example; when in the Early united states, the constituent 'ou' vowel group near the end of words was tweaked to just 'o', specifically by Websters 'dictionary' (that almost included women as womyn). This has lead to a difference in pronunciation between the British and the US.

Of course that merely accounted for small shifts in pronunciation, mainly by poorly educated people consistently misspelling words over generations. The problem arises when people mash words and completely change language rules just for certain incorporated terms, such as words beginning in "Kn" which although realistically it should have been pronounced "Ke-ni" the concept of a silent K was implemented into our language. Or when complicated words fall into disuse because simple words were 'easier' to use, many examples of which are parroted by 'learned' people who attempt to impress.

Consider how much of old English was latin derived, yet much of the old words were replaced by 'nicer' synonyms. Much of our old complex words are only known because our aristocracy kept them alive.

>>127458660
Yup.

>>127492739
So why do you choose to refer to this as bastardization? Why not just the natural course of language change?
You've probably contributed to it yourself as well whether knowingly or unknowingly.

>>127492099
Yeah we have it all. 20+ hours of a mix of lectures, workshops, tutorials, classroom sessions and labs. Assessments were down to the course but usually a mix of labs, written assignments and exams. I found it more intensive than my final year to be honest since it was cramming alien material.

I can only speak for my university obviously but we had to write 10-15k word project report. That was our dissertation. The project was usually individual but sometimes groups of students worked on a piece of software.

The projects available were pet projects contrived by the research staff / lecturers but you could also submit your own proposal if you were capable and the project had enough depth and could be scoped into the 2 semesters.

I built a persistence of vision display which was my own proposal and wrote up the report based on the research and methodology I used to approach it.

You're then graded on that report, how you approached and executed it and then the success of the end product in itself.

>>127459261
Cardiff is a good university. I graduated with a degree in astronomy from the University of South Wales just down the road. I'm doing a masters later this year. The prospects for most graduates is bleak at the moment unfortunately though, but having a degree will still put you above the rest.

>>127493023
Is not the change of language by removing the complex material in favour of easier synonyms the symptom of poor education, and/or a decadent, lax society?
It is merely sloth that drives linguistic change at this stage in human civilisation, when we have the ability to proof check our words, and the entire knowledge of our language at our fingertips through the internet and dictionaries.

>>127491310

All the Nordic countries – Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden – provide higher education free of charge for their own citizens and, until recently, international students have been able to study free too. ... Now only Finland, Norway, Iceland and Germany do not collect tuition fees from international students.

What did you expect?

Provide something for free and people assign no value to it....

>>127493751
>Now only Finland, Norway, Iceland and Germany do not collect tuition fees from international students.

Do any of them teach in English though

>>127493023
A non-contractionist fundamentalist I see

y dont u just bugger off desu m8

Why are you using an old British flag in the OP?

>>127493631
While language change is obvious and inevitable, I'm not convinced that just because a simplification can be seen at one level of writing that is applies to all of them. I'm also not convinced that simplifications are bad by nature. You might call it lazy, another might call it efficient.
Jonathon Swift's writing was no more sophisticated than modern scholars and academics, for example. Your sentiments have been repeated ad nauseum over the course of English's history and there's no evidence to suggest that our language conveys less meaning, holds less explanatory power/ability to convey ideas, or lacks any sort of poetic spirit in comparison to the 1600s.

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>>127458660
>A series of polls have shown Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour Party closing the gap on the Prime Minister, who had a lead of 25 points when the election was called.

I cant hold it any more, ahahahhahhahahahahahahahaahhahahahahhhahahhahhaha

>>127458660
where the fuck did you go? hull?

>that flag

dont you fucking DARE slag off our unis when yours are fucking stalin recruitment centres you fucking bellend!!

>>127492739
>When certain words are misspelled or misread, or when shorthand is used in referring to long words, which then go on to become integrated into the language. For example; when in the Early united states, the constituent 'ou' vowel group near the end of words was tweaked to just 'o', specifically by Websters 'dictionary' (that almost included women as womyn). This has lead to a difference in pronunciation between the British and the US.


You're wrong. English spelling wasn't standardIZED at all in England during the 18th and 19th century. You would see both spellings of words like 'color' (correct to Latin root) and 'colour' (French bastardization).

America at least tried to make some rational standardization in spelling, such as using the -ize suffix on Greek/Latin root verbs that indicate change or transformation. Standard -> StandardIZE.

>>127494456
>>127493104
>>127492674
Would you guys recommend an American to study over in the UK for cost benefit?

UK seems pretty easy uni wise honestly and it would cost less than a lot of shitty state unis over here. I could get a 3 year goverment degree for like 48k over there (plan on working for the government after I graduate, freshman doing a business degree atm over here)

Also what would the maths requirement be over there for a goverment/political degree? I have taken college level statistics which is all i need for my degree right now (here)

>>127478195
It's only cheap when you factor in the fact you're only there for 24 weeks a year. Rent is still about £120 a week before considering college catering.

No lecture time? That's up to what course you do and your own attendance. I do MSci Physics at uni and I have full attendance.
I also have no friends.

>>127486823
Construction? You mean civil engineering right?

>>127473370
Most Russell Group unis are £9k now. No specific college fees apart from accommodation which can work out slightly more pricey but then you're there for less than half the year so living costs work out roughly the same.

>>127494958
I probably would given the monstrous fee's you pay.

All degrees require a minimum of a C (pass grade) in English and Maths to a level equivalent to our basic secondary education standard.

They'd probably look at you on a case by case basis and see if you match up. If not there'd be facilities to go fill that hole in your requirements. That level btw is literally newborn babby tier so it's not an issue to obtain if required.

>>127493751
>Now only Finland, Norway, Iceland and Germany do not collect tuition fees from international students.
We do now, thanks to the True Finns party being in power. I believe tuition will be collected from non-EU foreign nationals starting this year.
>>127493865
Yes, you can get taught in English at most of our universities.

>>127494958
A lot of this depends on the university.
For maths requirements, as far as I know there won't be any courses that require maths at a college level/high school graduate level unless you want to specifically study maths/physics. Beyond a display of competence (here the standard is C+ at GCSE which is done at age 16) I really don't think people care.

I'd recommend coming here to study if you can do it with a good university.

>>127494649
m8 a friend of mine is studying at Hull University. Is it that shit? Hes doing some meme degree there, war and security studies.

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mfw a 1st class is the same as a 4.0 GPA to most employers.

Whereas in reality only the top 5% get 4.0's, yet in stem at a uk university the top 25 - 33% get a 1st

It is a bit of a joke tbqh, not that I'm complaining

>>127458660
Our Community Colleges aren't much better, either. All you get is either a text book or pass criteria and just effectively copy work. It's a fucking joke.

>>127495749
Lol. I've got a cousin coming over from America, who's going to do War Studies.

>>127495747
>Beyond a display of competence (here the standard is C+ at GCSE which is done at age 16) I really don't think people care.

What exactly does this entail? So you guys don't really take any math in Uni?

>>127495729
I've found that a lot of Comp Sci and Engineering courses only requires Cs nowadays. Still have to do really good at College/6th Form.

>>127496226
Depends on the course. For most STEM fields you would've done an additional qualification on-top of that, demonstrating your ability in that field and maths.

>>127496226
No, at least not for the sake of it. If it's relevant to your course (e.g. you need to know about statistical analysis for a psychology course) then you'd probably be expected to know it already, learn it in our own time, or it would be covered very briefly in a lecture.

>>127496506
Would my stats class I took over here (it is uni level) count as credits over there if I was to transfer to some UK Uni? Or would all my credits be nullified?

>>127494456
I doubt that someone of Jonathon swift's generation had a definitive compiled dictionary of the spectrum of words that were currently part of spoken English at the time, he merely had to make do with what others had attempted to compile.
So it would be natural that some words would gain supremacy of use over others that would fall into obscurity, this however should have all but halted in the wake of propagation of dictionaries that captured the full spectrum.

And so it is my view that is IS sloth that drives linguistic change in the modern era.

>>127458660
What the best uni to fuck disgusting club slags?

>>127495814
Interesting. Seems pretty ez to graduate 1st class then.

Over here it's not too hard to graduate with a 3.5 or something, but a 4.0 is pretty unlikely for anyone but the top nerds. Most employers don't give a shit about your grades though, they just want you to have the degree, over here at least

>>127496506
> Used to be good at maths
> Suddenly shit got bad
> Could never get good again and dropped it when I could
Again one reason why I've avoided the whole uni thing. I don't want to be subjected to maths shit that I can't get good at again.

>>127496764
I'd assume it'd be accepted. Most Unis accept equivalents. Only ones that don't are the really good ones. Like Oxford and Cambridge.

>>127458660
Join the armed forces instead. Its what im doing.

>>127494958
Best training for a government job would be to hang around fat black women for a year. Why waste the money on school?

>>127496705
I know your high school is way different over there. Before transferring to a UK University what would an American need to have to meet the requirements?

You take GCSE or something over there, not sure what the American equivalent of that would be. Like could I have straight out of hs went to uni over there or would I need some community college credits or something?

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yes the uk is a joke

>>127492736
My girlfriend and aunt are lawyers. Basically if you're doing it for money, power, respect, prestige or anything like that then steer well away from it. The ONLY reason to get into it is if you are absolutely obsessed with law/have some kind of weird masochistic thing going on. A lawyers' life is pain, the higher up you go the worse it gets. You can pretty much give up on having any kind of meaningful relationship with your wife/kids - assuming you even have the time to have those.

>>127497000
I'm the opposite to you.
>Shit at maths till YR11
>Predicted E grade
>Watch like 10 videos on algebra, statistics and a few other things
>Getting Cs in like a week.

>>127496764
Credits... Would really be down to any particular university's discretion.
My guess would be that they would take it into consideration in your application but as for transferring credits I doubt that would occur because universities here tend to work on a strict basis of passing a year with 120 credits from their own modules or some similar amount.

>>127497138
Maybe for the DMV or something, all the good government jobs require a bachelors

>>127497209
Your diploma would probably be equivalent to a BTEC or A levels.

>>127458660
Not if you study a real degree like engineering. Maybe that would apply to underwater genderfluid studies for all I know.

>Fuck GCSE's bad
>decide to take a chance and do a BTEC Art meme tier course
>manage to get DDD*
What are some good creative courses? I was thinking about product design but does that actually go anywhere, or should I just try and go straight for a job?

>>127458660

Pretty much like everywhere in the world, only that it costs a shitload of money.

>>127459995
Much better system for real degrees though. Learn the material on your own time. No lectures. Retards everywhere so even if you fuck up you're still relatively better than your employment competition. And lots of free time to redpill yourself/gym.

>>127497450
I got put on a IT course 6 months in and have nearly got all 9 units at D*D*. Most people don't even have 5 at pass.

>>127497450
Engineering design is a decent degree, it takes 5 years though

>>127497391
>>127497391
So what would I need to do to transfer to a UK Uni if I never did GSCE's?

>>127496850
Manchester and Nottingham. Brighton too, but they're interspersed with SJWs so you gotta watch out.

>>127497209
GCSEs are at age 16.
The grades that unis mostly look at are A-levels, which are done from 16-18 typically.
As basically as I can: At A-levels you usually take 3 subjects, e.g. maths, law, history. At the end of the two years of Alevel you take your exams and those are the grades that universities decide the majority of applicants on. So, the universities are choosing based on grades and (often) relevant subjects taken. For example, if you're applying for maths you'd be expected to have an Alevel in maths.

As far as I know the US system doesn't have this level of specificity, so I've no idea how those two systems are compared. High school diplomas are never in anything specific, right?

>>127496404
Yeah I've never seen it higher than a C that I can think of. I think that's just a mandatory check for brain function across the board.

The trend I saw for CS and Eng was generally a strong result in a mathematical subject at A level required in addition. So maths or physics with a B or higher which is what I studied. Less competitive uni's just had general grade requirements for the most part so the low watermark can be pretty low in some places.

>>127497773
As long as you've got your Highschool diploma I believe you can apply for a student visa and come over. You don't need GCSEs if you're not from Britain. Only something that would be equivelent like an English and Maths Uni at High school.

>>127465526
Location isn't god tier like Coventry uni tho. I have a friend in Warwick and she complains about that every time. No idea about economics stuff but "graduate prospects" (the only category that matters in university ranking) is pretty high here. Third for my degree

>i'm doing it wrong!
>therefore it's wrong!

>>127497731
I've found the art BTEC piss easy but about half the class struggles to even get to a pass.

>>127497731
I'll look into it thanks.

In Aus you do eight units every year and they all have exams.

>>127498136
It also depends on what field of the Computing sector you want to go into. I've seen that generally Networking and some programming will require Cs, whilst Cryptography or highly specialised business related degrees require Bs.

>>127497450
My dad is the main dude for advertising shit at some french company, he says that experience is worth far more than some degree, especially when it comes to art.

I say, get a job, get practicing and work your way up. A degree will set you back 3 years and thousands of pounds when you could have a job that would get you earning, and prove you can actually do things.

I have a couple of friends that did product design at different unis. Both say the majority of what you learn is useless.

Then when you have this job, I suggest maybe also taking some evening classes, they aren't very expensive, but interviewers fucking love that shit.

>>127498299
Nice, I think I prefer the way Uni in the UK is set up.

Seems easier honestly, I kind of don't mind the fact that 50% of the final year is based on one long 10-15k word assignment or whatever

there is some truth to this
i took a year long course at uni
in england, all that was due was a 10 page paper at the end of two semesters.

i told the professor i was on exchange and will only be here for 1 semester. he told me to hand in a 5 page paper.

any fucking subject i wanted.

100 true story

Lads, serious question, what am I going to do in 3rd year? I am finishing first now.

>>127498553
>My dad is the main dude for advertising shit at some french company

What degree does he have out of curiosity?

>>127498422
You can probably just apply to do Digital Marketing or Graphic Design. GR can actually be good if you market your degree and have talent.

>>127466364
Wait is that for real? I just got my good grades a few days ago. Did I sort myself out in the wrong year? Wouldnt mind an answer since I found nothing of value on jewgle.

>>127498656
He doesn't. He worked his way up.

>>127498585
What the fuck, that sounds even easier than community college

Did you only take one class?

>>127498585
Were you doing a foundation year/HND?

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>>127458660
Uni in Scotland:

>Year one: Literally counts for nothing. Grades don't matter so everyone spends the year drinking and whoring out.

>Year 2: Literally counts for nothing. Grades don't matter so everyone spends the year drinking and whoring out.

>Year 3: Grades might count towards final grade, or may just dictate class ranking and Thesis advisor choice.

>Year 4: OH FUCK IT ALL COMES DOWN TO THIS AFTER 3 YEARS OF FUCKING ABOUT.

Uni is a fucking con. Just about to start my 4th year, and so far I've attended an average of 3-4 lectures per semester per course. Only thing I go to regularly is the fortnightly labs, cos I have to.

Passed all my exams comfortably - after literally no studying and almsot no class attendance over entire semester and only throwing together last minute coursework night before deadlines - by cramming 40ish hours (on average) of revision per course in the 1-2 weeks before exams.

Have passed a couple of courses after doing nothing for them over the previous 3 months and then starting targeted revision 3 days before exam. I'm not super smart, slightly above college average IQ but that's it.

They could literally compress the 4 (Scotland)/3 (England) year honours degrees into an intensive 1-2 year program instead of the current bullshit which sees us paying for 6 months of occasional attendance while dicking around the rest of the year.

Unless you're doing an essential vocational degree - Medicine, Veterinary, Dentistry, Nursing etc - or some type of Engineering/Physics at a good school Uni is not a sound investment if you've got IQ of 115+.

Instead get an apprenticeship for one of the trades, or go military, or join Merchant Navy/work Offshore on the rigs and you get paid through training and can still do the whole 'student lifestyle' thing socially - but won't be wasting years of your life getting into debt in the name of worthless credentialism and leftist indoctrination.

t. studying STEM at an ok (Top 200 World) Uni.

>>127484935
Which uni? If it was some middle of nowhere place then it's probably harder

>>127458660
Frighteningly accurate.

>>127499072
If I was from the UK I'd get the ez degree and come to America for the high paying jobs honestly. You guys dont make shit over there

>>127499072
Too be honest, you'd just be better getting all of your information from the internet. You're lecturer is just an overpayed mouth piece.

>>127475418
>commies

It's exactly that. (about to start 3rd year btw)

You can't walk across campus without getting campaigned to especially by intense virtue signalling lefties.

On top of that we have LGBT, Black and Muslim safe spaces, and if your political views are not totally socialist prepare to be berated or ignored.

Most lecturers are decent people, but also post-modernists and cultural marxists.

Anything else you need to know about Sussex?

>>127499398
Varies, really depends on what you go in.

>>127499072
I'm probably just going to join the RAF to get more IT training. I can even get a degree out of it if I do well.

>>127499423
I've got that in my college. Got to say, they are a Community one.

>>127499402
Agreed.

When revising I overwhelmingly used a combo of Khan Academy and random other sites/pages setup by other Unis worldwide rather than anything I get from my own lecturers or the recommended textbooks.

I could be sat at home working and studying a little in my own time over internet and then go once or twice a year to sit exams/spend a week doing all the labs back to back - but no, for some reason my physical presence is necessary and so is the 10k or so a year I have to waste on rent etc.

>>127499603
I'm ex-Army, so the mere suggestion of the RAF makes me shudder, but fair play.

The RAF do treat their guys a fuck load better than Army or even Navy do.

Just don't expect soldiers or sailors to take you seriously.

>>127484346
I agree with your last paragraph but in order for that to work the rest of the education system needs to be overhauled. Go look at what O-Levels required of students and compare them to GCSEs or even A-Levels. The entire education system is a joke thanks to Labour and continued by the failings of the Conservatives.

>>127499852
All I use is Cisco and tech websites for my Btec at college. Like I said in the previous post, I've got nearly all the units done, at the highest marks and I was put onto this course 6 months in.

>>127499398
That really only applies to doctors

>>127499398
Already did that lel.

>>127499940
Is it common for guys in the army to do degrees? Or is it more of case of not needing to? Also, is being ex-army really such a great thing when looking for jobs? People tell me that when you come out of the army you'll be hired straight away because of your experience

>>127499940
Better qualification in the RAF than the other two. Navy aren't too bad, but I've heard the Army ones are no-where near to the civvy equivalents.

>>127499072
>>127467678
I feel like I missed out on the uni experience for the most part. Spent first 1.5 years with beta social anxiety so was basically kissless the entire time. Made out with a few girls towards the end of 2nd year - then spent 3rd and 4th with a gf. Literally never had a one night stand, I hope it's not as good as every claims it is.

>>127500230
You can do "Degrees" if you get a trade and become a "Clark of Works". You can go into an officer role and get one, but these "Degrees" are not equivalent, at least in the Army. It's different with the Navy and RAF, but it's due to the higher barrier to entry.

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>>127471224
>Imperial is "The Rest"

>>127500230
You mean do degrees while serving? Or have degrees before joining?

It's rare for serving guys to do degrees though I know a few who did via Open Uni. There are some (very rare) opportunities to do an Army sponsored degree but that only comes at higher ranks.

Something like 80% of officers have degrees before they join.

If you want a degree and want to go military the best option is to join as a Nurse - you will do your basic military training and then...off to Uni getting paid a salary throughout and no tuition fees to worry about. You'll have to pay back 4-5 years of service after you graduate but that's only 1 year more than you'd have to do joining in any degree-less job anyway.

>>127500167
And engineers and computer scientists and basically everything else that requires a degree.

Salaries in the UK are dogshit.

>>127500198
literally seems like the only advantage UK has is if you're a neet or need the free healthcare/dole

What do you work in?

>>127500338
Most people are probably lying for the most part. I'm just happy I've gotten out of the anxiety phase myself.

>>127500230
>Also, is being ex-army really such a great thing when looking for jobs? People tell me that when you come out of the army you'll be hired straight away because of your experience
Yeah it seems to go down well. Certainly I've had no problems finding work - but I've never had problems finding work and had quite a few Civvy jobs before joining the Army.

None of my ex-Army friends have had trouble getting jobs after leaving.

>>127500570
I've got Wealthy relatives in America. Sort of tempted to move over once I've served in the Military. I'd get a much better gig, as a Network Engineer.

>>127500508
I did say "almost" in fairness.

>>127500338
>Spent first 1.5 years with beta social anxiety so was basically kissless the entire time. Made out with a few girls towards the end of 2nd year - then spent 3rd and 4th with a gf. Literally never had a one night stand, I hope it's not as good as every claims it is.
Bro feel proud - you've done a lot better with the ladies than most guys do at Uni.

People see the Chads getting laid once or twice every weekend (or more often) and think that's the standard at Uni. It's not. Majority of guys at Uni/who went to Uni would envy your successes.

>>127500625
Did you do a trade, or where you in a combat role?

>>127500861
*were

>>127500625
What regiment/corps/whatever the fuck were you in?

I'm currently in the process of joining.

>>127500861
Was Combat Medic.

Never saw Combat though - I was REMF and dealt with casualties flown back in from the frontline fighting.

>>127500936
RAMC - avoid at all costs.

What trade you looking at going for?

>>127500338
most people I know either regret their one night stands, or end up in a shit relationship because of them (me lol)

Plus it's degenerate af.

Be proud you've had proper relationships instead.

>>127500576
Comp Sci.

The UK's """free""" healthcare is also a joke. One of the party manifestos recently (Labour I think) stated it wanted to get waiting times down to 4 months.

Over here I get insurance paid for by my employer for my entire family with an out of pocket maximum of $2.5K per year.

That sounds like a lot to any regular brit reading this but to me now it's chump change. That's the difference in salary levels.

>>127500949
My Dad's mate was a Combat Medic in the Yugoslavian war.

>>127459261
There's no prestige in higher education any more. It's £££ for bums on seats. Add in all that social justice crap and conveyor belt diplomas for blacks.

I'd say learn a trade and get an apprenticeship somewhere good, work hard and pay attention.

>>127501080
Fair play. He probably served with quite a few of the guys I had as Sgts etc when I was a Pte fresh out of training.

>>127501065
It's fine if you're under the age of 50, you're seen as a liability past that age.

>>127500936
I almost joined this year myself, was going to join the RE but my college offered me a new course when they found out and I just took it.

>>127458660
I went to Uni at 22.... And i ennjoyed fucking the disgusting slags.
Especially the Irish ones... However, I always used a condom; because I wasn't an idiot.

Also, course fees were a £1000 a year, and loans had/have almost zero interest.

Now.. Uni costs the blood of your first born, and every shag comes with a rape accusation. Thank fuck I went when I did.

>>127501014
Int corps, primarily

>>127485196
Ahahahahahahahahah
That made me laugh so hard

>>127501309
Don't worry, if you're retarded enough to do a meme degree and don't get a job. You get it wiped by the time you're 40.

>>127501065
You guys are making America sound really inviting.

Is there much out their for Music Technology graduates?

I'm very IT competent and can do some coding, so can see that as a 'realistic' avenue for employment.

>>127501280
RE (and REME) are a solid choice if you do decide to go for it later on. Had a schoolmate in REME and one of my Medic pals from Basic Training eventually commissioned into the RE.

Intelligence Corps also good if you've got the smarts for it.

Army Air Corps gives opportunity to qualify as pilot even if you're not an officer so they're a decent option too if you're into that.

>>127501065
America's biggest problem right now is probably cost of education

But with scholarships/grants it's probably on par with UK prices... maybe? Not sure if UK does much financial aid though, but desu the lower salaries might as well make their uni prices on par with ours if you're a UK native

>>127501393
I'd say you're better of doing a trade with the RE or Sigs. You'll much better prospects down on Civvy Street.

>>127501309
To be fair to the UK's student loan system, it blows the fuck out of the one here. It's not even a real loan. If you don't earn enough you don't pay it back and it's written off after 30 years.

People here are paying a minimum of $900 per month even when they dropped out and work in a coffee shop for $7.25 per hour.

Best advice is to graduate in Britain and move.

>>127501393
Good lad, go for it.

IntCorps do proper work even in peacetime (unlike some - like RAMC) and the opportunities to get degree while serving and/or to commission as an officer from the ranks are better than in any other corps.

I kept getting pushed towards IntCorps by my recruiters due to having a vaguely relevant working background+good school quals but was too stubborn to listen so fucked myself by going Medic.

>>127501484
I've decided on joining the RAF as a IT tech. Some pretty decent qualcs in. But, if that's not an option I'll probably join the RE as a Spark.

>>127461804
They dont teach you much in 1st year tho, mosy of it is spent trying to get all the dumbfucks to catch up to the same standard cos you realy dont learn anything in high school

>>127501713
Sounds like a decent plan. So long as you're honest with yourself about what you want out of it, and what you'll expect to get, you'll have a great time and a great experience.

>>127501424
>Is there much out their for Music Technology graduates?
No idea m8. My advice would be to just apply and see if they want you. Worst thing they'll say is no because of the visa problems.

>>127493118
I would hire a heroin addict before I give someone from the "University of South Wales" an interview. Literally a refurbed leisure centre. Sure, spend another £10,000 on your MBA though Goy!

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>>127494456
>holds less explanatory power/ability to convey ideas, or lacks any sort of poetic spirit in comparison to the 1600s.

>>127501827
How decent is the money, in the military in general. They say you get to keep most of your pay, is that valid?

>uk salaries are shit
>housing market continues to make home ownership a fucking glint in the eyes of most young people

Fucking hell

And I'm 24 with an English Lit degree from a shit uni and the only jobs I have worked since uni finished have all been temp positions.

I really think I'd be good at copywriting but I don't even know how to get into that.

I'm doomed right?

>>127501527
All English students are given student loans which are written off after 30 years and you don't pay it back until you earn £20K and only about 9% on everything over that amount.

People worry about this far too much because £20K is like the national average and very few people who go to Uni for bullshit degrees will ever pay it back.

>>127502050
>English lit
What the fuck made you think that was a good idea

>>127502050
Yeah, you chose a fucking useless major.
Now taxpayers will have to foot the bill for your loans - you fucking lazy parasite.

>>127502050
My Auntie is in her 50s, has a PHD in English Lit and has never held down a permanent lecturer job. She's literally just doing a teacher training qualcs to teach at schools now.

>>127501970
>How decent is the money, in the military in general.
Meh, it's ok. Very good if you go on an Op Tour (unlikely now we've pulled out of Afghan+Iraq largely) but the opportunities to save are excellent so long as you don't act like an idiot by spending a fortune getting drunk/going to stripclubs every weekend and getting an overpriced car on a high interest loan.

Living on the barracks, in the block, is cheap as fuck. You'll basically be paying about £50 per month for all rent/utilities.

Rest of your money (-taxes etc) is your own.

I found it very easy to put aside £1,000 per month (at LCpl rank) which still left me enough money to get drunk and have a social life over weekend.

>>127501566
My other role choices were something (too tired to remember) in the Signals and either the Cavalry or something in REME

>>127501653
Cheers. I think it will suit me pretty well. I've got to make sure I get an A on the barb tests (shouldn't be too hard).

Just wondering, though. Are the Int corps pretty separate from the army overall? Like, do they do parades? It seems to me like they'd be more of a widespread corps that isn't so heavy on traditional things like parades. I'm probably wrong.

>>127502050
This is my point >>127502148
That guy will NEVER pay back the student loans he took out to study that worthless degree.

Mate, what did you think you'd do with it? Professional book reader? What possible jobs could you get with it?

>>127502148
does this apply to UK natives that move to the USA for jobs too? do they get their shit cancelled after 30 years?

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>Europeans will never experience a college football game

>>127502292
Not interested in buying cars or anything stupid like that. Don't even eat junk or drink shit. I'd just be getting shit faced on the weekend with my fellow lads.

>>127502406
>>127502242
>>127502227
The irony is that if I hadn't done English Lit I would have done Chemistry.

But even Chemistry can't guarentee you a good job. Fucking STEM meme pretends a degree in science is the golden goose that keeps on giving but I know people with STEM degrees earning meh salaries as lab technicians.

>>127502501
65% white

>>127502501
Not interested in the first place.

>>127502459
All loans after 2010/11 academic year are written off after 30 years. All before that are written off after 25 years but have a lower threshold before you start paying it back. This amount rises with inflation.

Doesn't matter where you end up living but that might help you avoid paying it back. I know people in China right now who have lived there for ages and never paid anything.

Anyone go to UCL or Imperial? What's it like generally?