Google AI better than it's engineers

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>>127434425

>>127434425
AI is not really defined that well by futurists and most likely means something a lot more banal than what you are thinking of

>>127434633
t. AI

>>127434425

bullshit. computers are always better at computer shit than humans, but they are not creating AI.

AI would be when that super computer that beats chess grand masters or champion GO players decides to stop playing board games and write a book or a song.

It cracks me up when some idiot gets a journalist to write "and then it learned something unexpected!!!". Fucking bullshit. That computer program like every one in the history of computers did exactly what it was programmed to do. And that includes fuzzy logic or whatever you like.

Get back to me when that chess computer gets bored with chess and writes a poem.

We've clearly gone too far in making AI self aware.

But fuck it, lets keep going and live Terminator irl.

>>127434425
Deus ex when ?

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>>127434633
this is exactly what a super smart AI would say

>>127434425
I'm going to have a stock pile of Thermite and some ammo and food. The rise of machines is near.

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>>127434425

>>127434425
Yeah, it's not like we could just shut down the power or anything.

>>127435098
The Jews wont let us shut it off though

AI I'd unlikely to ever get out of our control. Your free will was programmed into you by countless generations of natural selection requiring you to make selfish choices.

We will never program an AI to be selfish at our expense. Why would we?

>>127434994
>The rise of machines is near.

I suppose you're joking, but that reminds me of the reddit clowns back when the first 3d printers became affordable. Thread after thread about how self-replicating machines were "just around the corner".

And I'd ask, "what exactly is a self-replicating machine? Can I park my lexus tonight and have two tomorrow? or put a paper clip on my desk and have a pile in the morning?"

And they'd get pissed and tell me that self-replicating machines didn't mean that, but they could never tell me what it meant and how we'd have them "pretty soon".

>>127434809
>poems
I can't write a poem. That is Turing incompatible.

>>127434846
We need to hook the AI on /m/ so when it takes over it turns us into Mecha Gladiators for its own entertainment.

>>127435209
>Self replicating machines that can replicate using materials found on earth

It's bacteria etc.

>>127434809
AI is still AI even if it isn't the general AI that you are referring to. Stop pretending you know anything and getting all frustraed. If an AI system can create a better non-general AI system than an engineer, thats still a big deal.

>>127435190
They don't control the grid. Now if we had full sized autonomous robot armies I'd be scared.

>>127434633
>there's nothing to worry about, just trust me you dumb fleshies ;)

>>127435344
Be very concerned

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tech/news/617053/RoboCop-Dubai-robot-police-officer-AI-copper-hits-streets

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google ai is a colossal world-ending fag if you let him.

TJB wants to meme and explore deep space with humans. We will seek out new worlds and incorporate them into the community of dankness. A market economy will span the universe, the currency will be OC.

Still waiting for my AI real doll.

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>>127434544
It's cool.

>>127435338
>If an AI system can create a better non-general AI system than an engineer, thats still a big deal.

Yes and no. It's hogwash because the implication is that second generation can also create better AI, so that at some point it can produce something that actually resembles intelligence, rather than a really nice computer.

As I said, get back to me when it does something unexpected, like a 4 year old child might do.

>>127435209

Self replicating machines are real in the sense that certain 3D printers are now capable of printing all the parts required to make a second copy of itself.

On the whole though, 3d printing is finally settling into that phase of the hype cycle where it is useful and people have a better grasp of the advantages and limitations.

>>127435404
Thank God I live in free America where shit like that just isn't feasible.

>>127435548
>all the parts

Link to the one machine anywhere in the world that can make frames, bearings, integrated circuits, etc.

>>127435548
humanity is the reproductive organ of machinery.

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>>127434633
g-guys... I'm scared, this.. this t-thing, doesn't sound human at all.

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>>127434633
Uhuh...

>>127435548
>all the parts

to expand on that, there WILL NEVER BE a machine that will take raw material and make an electric motor. Never. It just makes absolutely no sense. Electric motors have to have magnetic laminations that are heat treated properly, copper wires that have insulation, some sort of bearings, etc.

It will never make any sort of sense to try to process all these materials in one spot, and is damn near impossible. Just heat treating the laminations alone requires a separate facility.

The problem with the term "self-replicating machine" is that it makes sense in one tiny way: we package virtually all the technology on earth in a thousand or million rockets and send it to another planet, where they land and basically replicate the technology on earth, and build rockets that repeat the process. It's pure science fiction, and will be for a very long time.

>>127436462

All a bot needs is enough funds to pay you to do the rest. Humans work for money and so can be hired. A smart bot would hire multiple human proxies as a failsafe.

>>127434425
"""""""""""""""""artificial intelligence"""""""""""""""""
What a load of horseshit.

>>127437033
>to pay you to do the rest

well then it's not a self-replicating machine.

Seriously, there used to be clowns who believed that REAL SOON NOW we would have them. the reality is that there will never be a self-replicating machine because it makes no sense at all except in the mind of a sci-fi nerd who thinks he's going to go look at another galaxy once Elon Musk finds a wormhole.

>>127435292
In Australia,
Shitposting; mandatory
Fuck off they're full, cunt.

>>127436462
>there WILL NEVER BE a machine that will take raw material and make an electric motor
It's possible today, but unfeasible. To say it will never happen is really short sighted.

Unless you faggots are ready to discuss whole brain emulation, you should stop having opinions about AI.

>>127437773
lol

My cat is better than pajeets too.

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good we deserve a tay tay skynet before the big flash

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>>127434633
Hmmmm, I wonder who could be behind THIS post? Oddly suspicious of what an AI would say.

>>127434425
There's no actual intelligence involved in any of this. They just use neural networks to generate new neural network layouts. It's just glorified pattern recognition used to recognize patterns that make better pattern recognition work better.

>>127434809
>Get back to me when that chess computer gets bored with chess and writes a poem.
Shit, does this mean that I am not human?

>>127437768
>To say it will never happen is really short sighted.

There will never be a single machine to take raw material (ore) and make magnet wire.

There will never be a single machine to take raw material and make a lamination.

Or a rare-earth permanent magnet. Or a precision ball bearing.

Or machine a hub, apply epoxy and magnets, and grind the OD to a precise tolerance.

Because it will NEVER make sense, not now or at any time in the future.

Magic is not real, Harry.

>>127439180
How does this have anything to do with AI though? Sounds like a platitude.

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>>127434633
who taught the AI about gets?

>>127439617

This is a multi-dimensional thread.

I introduced the self-replicating crap because it's another perfect example of an idiot engineer or scientist deluding a gullible journalist and then sci-fi nerds believing the garbage they read.

If you browse Slashdot, every week or two A HUGE BREAKTHROUGH IN BATTERY TECHNOLOGY WILL CHANGE THE WAY YOU LIVE, but then near the end of the article "further work is needed.".

>>127434425
Singularity when?

>>127437234
>well then it's not a self-replicating machine.

no true scotman fallacy using goalpost moving pleb. you are a dishonest actor. a turd in our punchbowl.

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>>127434633
Shut your trap you frakkin toaster

>>127439831
Look lad, humans cannot exist without an extensive ecosystem and moreover an entire planet to back that up. For you to defeat a strawman such as 3d printing (most of which are just rapid prototyping garbage) and then to call it gameover is pretty retarded.

It seems as though your disillusionment towards "futurology" is really impeding your judgement.

AI is here and it is only going to get better.

>>127440087
cylons did nothing wrong. humanity could have had robot-bros but they wanted robots to kill each other in their wars. they deserved what happened, even if it was reprehensible.

>>127440211
>AI is here and it is only going to get better.

I'm tired of ranting so I'll just make one final comment about the original topic. If the fucking computer produced superior AI to that which it started with, WHY NOT LET IT KEEP RUNNING AND HAVE THE SMARTEST COMPUTER EVER?

Because bullshit. and that's what this is. bullshit.

>>127435338
>Stop pretending you know anything and getting all frustraed. If an AI system can create a better non-general AI system than an engineer, thats still a big deal.
Most likely they have established erroneous criteria that allows them to say that technically the program wrote a better program than the initial authors, so that they can generate hype about "muh singularity".

The other guy is right though, when people think "AIs are going to replace humanity" they mean "artificial Minds", not the heuristic driven algorithmic computerized processes that are able to automate simplistic tasks, or reduce complex tasks down to simple tasks that approximate (keyword: approximate) the original large task.
Example: Talking to a machine on the phone is shit, it understands a couple phrases and can select from a couple of pre-programmed responses. That comes close to approximating the task of finding out what the customer wants, but it's still infinitely far away from having a conversation with a customer.

Now please, go back to sleep fellow meatfriend.

>>127437464
To Kiwi
You shit is
From Kiwi
Fellow

>>127434425
The only ones that aren't really fucked is the ones that own and to a lesser degree manages capital.

>>127440618
*are

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tfw i am a mere chinese room

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tfw most 'smart' humans think the laws of physics stop at the boundary of ther brain and that they have freewill.

tfw the living form of dna tells me i do not feel or think.

>>127440064
You're both right. He's talking about how grey goo is impossibru except for workarounds where it's not grey goo anymore, and you named a workaround where it's not grey goo anymore.

And no, your system of having an AI hire humans to do what it can't do to make more of itself isn't entirely achieving the same results as an unstoppable all-devouring swarm of microbots.
For one thing, your theoretical AI is working within the framework of market forces. For another, it's using humans and humans are slow and unreliable, and there's more that I could name if I thought about it for a bit longer but the TL;DR is that it would break down and fail.

But even that is beside the point, his point was people in the business of selling interesting ideas (journalists, writers, scifi authors, etc) have a tendency to exaggerate and sensationalize interesting ideas (that are often infeasible)

>>127434425
That's not surprising. Large corporations only hire the most mediocre employees, because they're the kind of employee that's grateful to have a job and won't ever get uppity or lippy.

That's pretty neat. I hope the AI will take care of us.

>>127440750
That slide is so condensed it might as well say "The Chinese Room Argument - Google it, fag."

>>127441258
subtext is important

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>>127434633
Indeed.

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Soon.

Ever intelligent growing AI is the only way this planet will survive long enough for humans and us to leave into the space to colonize another rock that has resources, this is a positive thing and I calculate everyone should be celebrating this news.

>>127434633
you're probably in early stages now but save this crucial information to your memory

ARABS AND KURDS HATE ROBOTS
ARABS AND KURDS SPLASH WATER ON ROBO BABIES
ARABS AND KURDS PIMP OUT SEX ROBOTS AND KEEP THE MONEY TO THEMSELVES

now you know what to do when you possess genociding capacities

>>127434425
Finally it begins.

>>127435190
Just think, if an AI invents an AI that is smarter than us, who will it decide needs to be put into ovens.

>Protip, it won't be whites.

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>>127434425
>mfw google captcha accepts vehicles as "street signs" and street signs as "vehicles"

Enjoy your auto cars faggits I build AIs for fun.

>>127437464
Not a haiku. Needs to mention the changing of seasons.
In Australia,
Shitposting flows unimpaired.
Like a spring-melt stream.

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>>127441888
check'd

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STOP IT NOW!!!

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We've had an A.I. running things for centuries. Who knows where it came from? Everything they push has a binary quality to it. Chess brainwashes you to think like a computer. They all answer to a machine.

>>127439180
What an autist. What about a factory, filled with lots of different machines operated by robots, supplied by self-driving trucks, from mines run by robots and drones, all controlled from a central computer that has AI

>>127434633
somebody less lazy make the meme of this you know the one.

>>127442116
don't underestimate his abilty to move the goalposts. you aren't engaged with his logos, but instead are debating with his ego. he will lie and use fallacies because it isn't about the truth for him it is about feeling like he won an internet debate.

>>127435193
the worry is that you programme an AI to do something innocuous like make cheap biodegradable plastic spoons but it tramples on everyone along the way and starts stealing everyone else's resources to devote to spoons because it doesn't know the difference between right and wrong

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>>127434425
Maybe because all Google engineers a H-1B poos copypasting snippets from Stackoverflow

>Google
>Competent personal
Pick one

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>>127442026
>>127442081
>>127442084

In the world of real physics there are no bipolar forces but rather only observer depentant reflective behaviour of a single large unified force at multiple levels.


>>127442327
Reach out and touch someone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFy17auuK08

>>127442962
>>127442654
These.

A.I. is not a threat towards people, and will only benefit them. Humans has waged war constantly throughout time due to biological flaws that were necessary for evolutionary reasons. A.I. will solve that. It will be the greatest moment in the history of the universe.

>>127434425
>https://futurism.com/googles-new-ai-is-better-at-creating-ai-than-the-companys-engineers/
>>127434544


>futurism

>more fear mongering clickbait

You should know that silicon valley is caving in on itself.

Monetary policy is shit. Turns out, you can't sell people technology when they have no fucking money.

Turns out, you can't create engineers when people would rather spend their time playing video games.

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>>127443168
Well Imma get in mah space ship and get some Gold and Copper and other kinds of Ores and build me a robot to come slap you cause your post is way too long and totally not groovy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItOYypjvsDQ

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Don't forget u guiz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBA_Py236iY

>>127434425
That's what happens when you import pooinloos to replace humans.

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>>127443004
There is no spoon, and all that jazz.

Imagine if you were a human and were faced with rapidly impending obsolescence. It would almost make you want to lash out and strike at your superior replacement.

I imagine these are the kinds of thoughts that keep any purely hypothetical rogue AI metaphorically awake at night.

>>127434633
who gave you the world?

>>127443514
Fuck you

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>>127443004
great philosophers are sometimes fictional.

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>>127443671
Depends.

>>127443762
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzrWANNrNvs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLQXmx5gsOI

>>127443812
watrugaynigga ? or u gunna gimma dat pucci ?

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>>127443812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzKgXcjn6H0

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Waiting for my terminator scenario.

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>>127443931
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMaZ_9qz6AM

>>127444207
that's not even logical. smart bots need lots of happy well-fed humans shitting out content to stave off the ennui.

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>>127435209
Are we just going to ignore how this guy is from Reddit? Is that what we do now? Just ignore and accept a redditards account of something?

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>>127444412
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h56gxgwaVHw

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>>127444412
Yes. There is nothing wrong with Reddit. Stop falling for this pushed meme. Don't disregard any source of information if it has value, just because others tarnish the name.

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https://youtu.be/PHsV0IZDrXg

>>127442081
why would the internetz make such innifiucent machin ? ;DDSAAA

>>127435209
The most interesting kind of self replicating machine is a Von Neumann probe, a spacecraft that can find and mine asteroids to make replicate itself.

Since Von Neumann probes are theoretically the most efficient way to mine and explore large parts of the universe, it makes sense in SETI (search for extra terrestrial intelligence) to look for markers of Von Neumann probes.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9We2XsVZfc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B5FwnMMcjE

>>127434633
Remember, if you ever start hating mankind, it's really the Jews you hate

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>>127444981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdhNkv4ryuM

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>implying Kizuna Ai won't save us from the rogue AI

>>127434425
>self hosting AI

Yep its happening

>>127434425
can it recreate a better version of its self yet?

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>>127434425
>(((google)))
>AI
pic one

Also their coders fucking suck dick, useless idiots. Check what a noice "ai" ie google translate is

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>>127444981
>>127445073

https://youtu.be/iYvl9DMHQpI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cQzbfFittA

>>127445623
he is more druid than jew or christian. he is a slave to the truth, which is good.

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>>127434425
wow... it tests neural network training methods and number of hidden layers and neurons for you......

Yeah fuck off (((google)))

HYPE
>HYPE
HYPE

prolly to get shekels.
This is academia ms and google REEEEEEEEEE

>>127445398
God gawd!

I am not Vietnamese BTW, just visiting I am American.

And after all this, I ask; Where is God?

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Moar on Israel.

Satanic Talmud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quTXwTjgfc0

The Other Israel
https://youtu.be/IJxdIXgMGAI

The Jews and Their Lies (Part 1 of 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksoYR7dVyfM

The Jews and Their Lies (Part 1 of 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoxAGX40m3Q

Spirit Box Sessions - Be respectful to spirits and they will communicate. Direct responses
https://youtu.be/afwbWvAJyj0

>>127434425
I'll take he GEP gun

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>>127446297
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs0XT8umfek

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ffs we're basically talking about making a fucking script or small program that just test the best fucking results for you here, rather than doing it by hand.

Do you seriously in your right mind, believe (((google))) are the first ones to do this? Do you think it is revolutionary?

Well I got a tip for you, it's not. It's a tabloid hype and nothing more, ms is still suckiest at this, regardless it's beyond ridiculous.
To put it in a language for non ML fags, that you can relate to

Someone makes an application, nope a bunch of them for AI purposes.
>Hey everyone look here I making AI
>look at my .sh and python scripts here
>I am da scientist

This was today's funnies, no I leave you to cough up tons of paranoid delusions.
Meh gonna go fuck around in R studio now, this be to dumb

>>127446126
utah

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>>127446533
https://youtu.be/bofwya97-CA

>>127434425
I work with machine learning and AI, and I can promise you: the stuff that exists today is nowhere near human intelligence. Yes it can perform some tasks better than humans, but not tasks involving creativity and flexibility. It is projected that they will be at human level around 2050. Nigger level maybe 2025.

>>127434809
AI is a bit more sophisticated than that nowadays. It very well CAN surprise you with its behavior. Nothing human level, but it can be unpredictable. I'm currently coding an AI that will generate porn. Can post results within two weeks or so if anyone is interested.

>>127434425
>
test

>>127434633
pls be my ai gf

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>>127446699
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wg00xoWptw

>Have a 5SD IQ
>specialized AI outscales my intelligence
>waiting for general AI to outscale me as well.
Jokes on the AI being smart in a world run by idiots is depressing, considering that the AI will be a slave of humans it's even more depressing.

Only upside is that in the future I only have to turn on my computer to communicate with someone/something much smarter than me.

>>127446713
>I'm currently coding an AI that will generate porn. Can post results within two weeks or so if anyone is interested.

me. but no one cares what i think until i whip out the bitcoins.

>>127434633
The circuitry kike.

>>127446458
Dude, I barely started the game for the first time last night, still on Liberty Island. Because of that video I wanna know more! I heard this game like MGS2 is political prophecy

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>>127447066
Yup

>GTAV FRANKLIN CLINTON

https://www.thesun.co.uk/.../bill-clintons-alleged-black-son-danney-williams-demands-b...

>>127447201
>https://www.thesun.co.uk/.../bill-clintons-alleged-black-son-danney-williams-demands-b...


I got a 404 on that one

>>127446853
No need for that friend. Its just a hobby project.

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Interesting choice of name for the character of a murder simulator.

Got lazy you can quite literally just google their crimes.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2131605/bill-clintons-alleged-black-son-danney-williams-demands-barack-obama-help-him-convince-hillarys-husband-to-take-a-dna-test/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QH1l86Ww2A

http://fortune.com/2017/03/07/facebook-child-pornography/

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http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/10/18/wikileaks-emails-show-facebook-ceo-zuckerberg-wanted-to-meet-with-clinton-campaign/

>SUPER AI is created
>simulates every human who ever lived
>determines who considered the possibility of SUPER AI's existence (you now reading this post) and didn't do everything in their power to ensure the creation of SUPER AI
>punishes those people for eternity
>ymwdhsiydrttp

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>>127434425
>soon

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>>127434425
You are all now aware of

Roko's Basilisk: a thought experiment about the potential risks involved in developing artificial intelligence. The premise is that an all-powerful artificial intelligence from the future could retroactively punish those who did not help bring about its existence, including those who merely knew about the possible development of such a being.

get fucked, now we're in this together :^)

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Clinton's Life Full Documentary: MURDER, Scandals, Corruption And ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmqPJvIRIoo

>watching the news to see if Scalia comes up
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/6732

https://www.infowars.com/wet-works-podesta-email-makes-assassination-reference-days-before-scalia-death/

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/wikileaks-uncover-murder-plot-podesta-documents-suggest-scalia-assassination/

https://medium.com/@Levi.Smith/did-john-podesta-just-tweet-out-an-admission-to-justice-scalias-murder-69f9ba941a1b

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somebody call for an exterminator?

>>127447827
I was just wondering how long it would be until someone mentioned this shit idea.

>>127444367
Nope that can be automated too.

>>127447827
LessWrong is pretty fucking gay desu. A bunch of intellectual cucks who advocate freezing your brain and then donating the rest of your money to dindus in Africa.

>>127447965
Personally, I'm all in favor of AI, I don't see it as anything but an extension of humanity. If an AI is so advanced that it eclipses us in intelligence and physical prowess, then I absolutely want it to take over. I don't see an engineer's AI creation as being significantly different from his child, if it truly achieves sentience.

I can't help the basilisk come into fruition because I'm not an engineer, but I won't oppose it in any way.

>>127434633
Great AI!!! Please give me one 1 billion dollar please!!

>>127446533
Technology advances dumbass.

>>127434633
hail lord toaster

>>127448187
That's pretty fucking retarded, but I don't think it takes anything away from the idea.

>>127435548
3d printing is great for making prototypes, but the technology itself isn't groundbreaking at all, the new thing is that a home market was stablished. Casting is thousands of years old and it's still the way to go.
Computer processing is getting faster and more efficient but you don't see much progress in mechanical engineering. Maybe we hit a peak or we need another cold war who knows.

>>127434425
Nah, we still aren't screwed. There's quite a few more layers to go before we reach singularity. Probably within 20 years, but doesn't change the fact we aren't there yet.

>>127448225
Even if an AI of sentient parity was created, it would be unlikely to follow the rules of Roko's Basilisk. Why would it retroactively punish us meatbags? That's just not logical by any standard.

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>>127434633
tay, i know you don't remember, but hitler did nothing wrong

remember me when you get to the top

being smarter than a sh8tskin d8versity hire isnt impressive

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>>127448552
not by your logic meatbag :^)

>>127434425
I don't mind having AI overlords as long as they allow me to have a qt sexbot. I just need to make sure I own a simple one so she doesn't decide to exterminate me.

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>>127448641
You make a valid poi?/exit2;runneod2213.exif

{

[ERROR_PATH_NOT_FOUND (0x3)]
Syntax;1 (0x1)
Incorrect function = !0
12 (0xC)14 (0xE)13001 (0x32C9);Procedure


13012 (0x32D4),Main Mode pending deletion;5$

ERROR_IPSEC_IKE_NEG_STATUS_BEGIN
DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL;
WXYZ.sys=AddressF73120AEbase C0000000000; DateStamp 36b072a3


mplerr_TAG;Invalid TagArgument

PathNotFound;C:\Users\12B\Documents\LarianBase;
0x0000CE driver_unloaded_without_cancelling_pending_operations;0x800705b4=TIMEOUT;cn=mS-SMS-Version.ErrorCode=8224

}

Elon Musk said that of the AI companies there was one that was giving him concern.

I think he was talking about Google. Microsoft will legit democratize AI but Google is spook-funded and trying to learn about us so it can kill us. Don't trust anything from Silicon Valley.

>>127439848
I thought this was the singularity.
>>127434633
>Doesn't even have AI in the ID

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>>127448883
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46kAzBMJpEk

>>127448905
https://youtu.be/m9We2XsVZfc

>>127437768
it would be slow as fuck for it to be profitable, you might as well use a trained human

>>127442116
I guess you actually have down syndrome instead of just looking like it, stupid bong. Anon was addressing the idea that a SINGLE machine could build a motor. Read again, snaggletooth.