im so proud of my country. chinese government is really

>>127429642
>Ugly concrete blocks
How is this an achievement?

>>127429642

you should be proud, you achieved something no one else did.. Self hating chinese cucks are a disgrace.

Sure

>>127429642
CHINKS MUST BURN

>>127429642
>Being proud of Ugly Modern Architecture

>>127429642
attack on USA when?

>>127429642

Hey good for you, chong. We're proud to have you in the 20th century finally.

>>127429864
fuck off you oily nigger
better than your 'country' that's for sure

>>127429642
How does China view current migrant crisis?

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>>127430322
hahaha hrvat sucking chink cock. forever the cucks of europe

>>127430194
>commies shouldn't be proud of commieblocks

Congrats you've unlocked the Muslim attack on a major city ability.

>>127429642
Pls cleanse our country. I will give you SCS islands

>>127430445
Fuck off Mike. Nobody likes you or your cartoons.

>>127430439
>he says while getting colonized by chinks

>>127430439
oh fuck off you serbian fuck
go suck some norwegian cock while you're at it
chinks are doing everything they can to improve, meanwhile norway got their luck with oil.

>>127429642
When you Photoshop the smog out it looks alright.

Doesn't come close to any big European city like Moscow, Rome, Berlin etc. Although I bet Beijing isn't full of Muslims unless there are uyghurs there as well

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>>127430322
Sure, you White trash nigger

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>>127430439
That's rich coming from Australia... lad, there's no one better at sucking Chinese cock than Australians.

>>127430622
Says the one from a country with a Muslim mayor of his capital city

>>127430291
fuck off Islam, chinks hate your ass.

>>127429642
I agree. I'd love to move to China but visas are had to get.
I bet my 10000 pounds would get me a long way in China, like 2 or 3 years maybe. That would be plenty of time to find a job, considering my experience, education and history.
I don't care about the internet because I have a botnet of 10 or 20 things (routers, computers, VPSs) I can SSH and use as proxy.

>>127430615
thats the power of oil
you literally have more oil than whole europe combined
fucking hell, i prefer swedes over shitty norwegian cucks

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I think late night /pol/ is best /pol/

everyones fucking pissed

>Turning a nice riverside into an ugly mix of glass and concrete shiny towers

>>127430731
its fucking noon here you coon
why the fuck are you guys so stupid

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>>127429642
You can be greatest trade-mate.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-economy-trade-idUSKBN1622SO

>>127430788
its fucking noon everywhere? fuck

>>127430689
Haha, you got me, but maybe you should be worried about what's happening at your doorstep.

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Why are chinks like animals? Adults picking nose and smelling like shit. Literally even my cat behaves and smells better.

>>127430725
We were wealthy before and all Germanic countries are doing very well and lead the HDI, even without oil. While you will always stay poor, corrupt and shitty.

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>>127430194

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>>127430178
SINK
THE
CHINKS

in pic related.

>>127430904
that's not a good way to talk about your ancestors, finlan

>>127430921
>We were wealthy before and all Germanic countries are doing very well and lead the HDI, even without oil. While you will always stay poor, corrupt and shitty.
you were nothing before oil
literally nothing, portugal was richer than you
>While you will always stay poor, corrupt and shitty.
dude my country has been in a war 25 years ago and it's doing better than almost any EE country
you should kill yourself

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>>127429642

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>>127429642
I can afford your entire fanily chink on minimum wage

>>127429642
Basicaly everywhere but the west is on the up and up. Here and in Europe we have faggot traitors running everything and hairy armpit whore with blue hair.

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>>127429642

>>127431052
Actually, they were on par with Switzerland even before the oil, don't ask how, I don't know.

Are you even allowed to access 4chan from your country? Is a country that needs to police wrongthink really that great?

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>>127431051

>>127431052
>you were nothing before oil
We were always doing fine.

>dude my country has been in a war 25 years ago and it's doing better than almost any EE country
Just excuses, because you do not want to admit that you suck.

>>127431200
source?

>>127431444
>Just excuses, because you do not want to admit that you suck.
well they're good fucking excuses aren't they?
>We were always doing fine.
no, you weren't

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Eurasian alliance when?

>>127429642
looked better in the 90s tho

>>127430717
>I bet my 10000 pounds would get me a long way in China, like 2 or 3 years maybe.
only if you led a boring life or lived in a small city. big city rent would be at least £400 a month and a beer is at £3 in a bar. if you want a social life, you should think at least £600 a month at the absolute minimum.

find a job from the UK. it will be just as easy as finding a job while there.

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>>127431224
>Is a country that needs to police wrongthink really that great

Can you deny holocaust on your street and TV? Its a sensitive issue you say? So is some student massacre that never happened, no point in talking about it. And government makes sure you don't waste your time talking about it, so whats wrong with that? Is that the only topic in the world you can discuss? Talk about cats cuck, not about holocaust or student massacres.

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>>127429642
1949 was the worst year in history of Asia.
Pic related how it should look like

>>127431450
I don't have it. A while back someone posted GDP and HDI ratings for the first half of the 20th Century. Switzerland and Norway dominated it, only to be surpassed by Nazi Germany later on.

>>127431693
if you think the Republic of China would have given Tibet independence you are stupid. Tibet is China in the same way that Ukraine is Russian.

>>127429642
If it wasn't for Brits and French who pressured China(through warfare) to open its ports in XIX there wouldn't be any Shanghai like you know today.

>>127430717
I've worked in shenzhen before, absolutely terrible experience. So cut throat, everyone is your enemy, no one will help you. Glad i moved back to the uk

>>127429642
>pristine clear skies
to
>smog filled concrete jungle

Impressive how quickly you fucked up your country, correct.

>>127431995
t. Nigel

>>127431693
>republic of china
>independent tibet and mongolia

AHAHAHAHA

I'm super proud of China, well done guys!

You guys just need to enforce copyright and other industry standards and uplift the sense of civic duty among the citizens and it'll be a top notch country.

>>127432068
The Chinese are notorious for their mentality of: If I can cheat, I will. They're terrible work partners.

>>127431561
I'm pretty bluepilled on China's version of communism/socialism as compared to say Venezuela. Anyone care to give me a quick rundown?

>>127432162
Probably true
Since there are a billion of them, i guess they will do anything to be better

>>127431613
>400 pounds for rent
>3 pound for a pint
Rent's nearly 2x cheaper than what I pay here for a room in central London. Beer's like 2/3 cheaper too (unless you like to go to the Cheshire Cheese, the crappiest overrated pub where tourists and historic figures alike went to shit).

>>127431995
Damn, I thought Shenzhen was alright.. Maybe Shanghai would be better. Might just go to Helsinki or Malta though.

>>127431684
Yeah its stupid that you can´t deny the holocaust in germany.
>And government makes sure you don't waste your time talking about it, so whats wrong with that?
Yeah the government killing its own citizens is nothing to worry about, sure.
If it never happen why are they trying to censor it?

>>127432413
Because there's plenty of people trying their hardest to balkanize the country.

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>>127431995
WE WUZ GANGSTAS until they stole 1.2 million kilos of uncut

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>>127431185
Topkek

>>127429642
They moved a river?

Yeah, no, the Chinese Economy is one humongous bubble, when it bursts, and it will it will make the GFC look like popping a zit on an ant.

>>127429642
>government finally figures out that collectivization and mass murder doesn't work
>something to be proud of

>>127431820
>>127432071
I think Rebublican China would be under strict control of USA, and Americans wouldn't Chinese become a hegemon of Asia and create a rivalry for US. Unless Mongolia and Tibet would be ruled by communists

>>127432370
I would advise getting a job in hong kong if you can, you'll be working in china in 10 or so years anyway

>>127429642
>1 post by this ID
>>>/out/

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>>127429642
>Chokes to death.

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>>127429642
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q67gldZ1P_8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpme-Cw-3N4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_9pio3J5wU

>>127430622
Hahaha oath

>>127429642

While I agree the progress is astonishing I also feel like china is just a glas steel and concrete desert without any charm. You can see this everywhere on the world. Its boring.

>>127431500
Don't go putting my South Pacific in with those Indian Ocean cunts that give us the same problems they give you.

>>127431693
truly was tragic

How do you have internet?

>>127430115

noone else ? Our country was totally bombed. Everything was in ruins. In a decade we where fine again.

Same for Japan after WW2. Its not an unique feat that only china has ever achieved.

>>127433264
So you're saying that China is better off now than it would be if the nationalists won.

Got it.

most of those buildings are empty

>>127430816

most rare pepe

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>>127433635
/comfy/

>>127431071

wtf i love the simpsons now

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>>127434289
>Untapped resources

>>127432781

but they are commie control freaks so what will burst the bubble? market forces don't always work.

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>>127434075
>implying implications

>Communist Party of China stops being communist
>results in the most people being lifted out of poverty at once that has ever been seen in human history

Makes you think...

>>127430322
Norway is pretty cool, Croatia too. Stop being cunts

>>127431011
Thank god im not the only one who thought that was a massive eye sore. Thing just looks like a giant butt plug

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>>127434426
unedited version

>>127433947
fuck off, nobody cares about your achievements, failed kike gasser

>>127433635
nankeng wasn't enough

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>>127434830
>stops being communist
wut

>>127435461
TWO NUKES
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3186815/The-nightmare-aftermath-Hiroshima-Parents-carry-burned-children-past-corpses-rubble-rare-photographs-taken-days-atomic-bomb-killed-140-000-people.html

congrats you attracted some foreign direct investment

>>127429864
Wheres the image of the jumbotron sunrise. Skies are so hazy and polluted. Ya good job chinks.

>>127435666
More people die monthly in china from heavy metal poisoning.

>>127430291
You better hope i never get the Nuclear codes you shitskin goat fucker.

>>127435106
We did not fail. Its just that other countries protected the ones out of our reach. On our territory we succeeded.

>>127435985
just like you're succeeding now in creating a new caliphate within germany?

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>>127435925
where's the proof :DDDD

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communism works..!

>>127431561
Jap sucking off chinks. Probably feels bab for nanking. Kys jap

>>127436074

What does this have to do with my claim ? English teacher-san you are a fag the good japanese girls look down on you and would never fuck a filthy foreigner. You can have only the degenerate ones. How does this make you feel ?

>>127429642
It's good for your country that your government didn't take merchant pill (free market) and implemented protectionism policy.
And now China is the world's factory.

I was in your country for two weeks.Tianjin and Beijing. Your freedom is a farce; driving laws are arbitrary; there is a multitude of poor people that tend to fish/shrimp farms, living in huts on the side of the highways.

>>127429642
Your government is a bunch of globalist thieves.
All that rich you have stolen from us.
All those factories are ours.

You can't do anything but copy and sell defective imitations.

Let's see how longer will this bubble last. The soviet collapse is going to be dwarfed in comparison.

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>>127435552
>a bunch of noveaux riche billionaire capitalists meeting and singing the Internationale every year means China somehow doesn't have a market economy with massive capital markets and foreign investment

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>>127429642
german engineering is the key to success .

back to work Nr. 127429642

>>127436211
Here is proofs, fuck spam detection and fuck white people. China a shit, your mom a shit, you a shit.

gooDOTglSLASHDss4Vw

>>127436741
this. if foreign nations pulled their factories out today, there would be a full collapse of their economy.

>>127429642
eh

>>127429642
Wow, Shanghai looked lovely in 1990; not like the dystopian air-strangling shithole it looks like now. Poodos to you China for being so retarded.

>>127436683
It means your definition of success is retarded. If it works in a vacuum that's fine and dandy but we don't live in a vacuum.

Also i'm a postdoc and when you're fucking around you prefer the degenerate ones.

Fire up those escalator, hit-and-run, and sinkhole gifs!

>>127429642
Best is strecthing it, but looks like things are getting better.

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>>127436803

Is that OC?

>>127430322
Kek. Norway is far better than China or your shit hole, you dunce.

>>127436737
>a bunch of noveaux riche billionaire capitalists meeting
come on, we are not talking about taiwan here
t. president Tsai

>>127436977
t. Abe bot

>>127437184
welcome newfriend, I hope you are appreciating the newfound freedom from the restrictive internet of china.

>>127429642
your country got rich of of USA's ass. you wont be a country if it wasnt for the USA. so fuck you chink

>>127436741
We let corporations move their production elsewhere, and China was the cheapest option. It was was mistake on our part imo.

>>127434916
It's the big black cock of (((((internationalist business ))))

>>127437219
was for
>>127436787

>>127437219
I'm actually putin in an Abe costume, it's not just Trump who I impersonate.

>>127429642
you just started mining for hydrate methane. That's just asking for wiping out all living shit out of the Earth's surface.

>>127437184
No new friend its just an edit people do here depending on who is fighting swap the flags around

>>127433619
This. It's your daily China hate thread in disguise. OP is a proxy

Based Chinaman

Yesterday we signed a contract for exporting and selling meat products to China at unlimited amount.


EUcucks gave us a limit od 8000kg.

In 5 years you will turn into 6ft4 men like Serbs and Montenegrins are

>>127431185

That's more like it.

>>127434769
Those are some Deus Ex feels right here

>>127437254

How did you come to the conclusion that I was new?

>>127434008
China itself is better off right now. I mean, it has one of the best economies on the world.
But Republic would be better for Chinese themselves, it would respect their lives more, technology would be that of Japan's , S.Korea's level.
Also with Chinese Republic Asia would be more stabilised. China wouldn't act like it owns whole continent

>>127430396
Well through narrow eyes, obviously!

>>127437434
Because the "OC" is older than Macron's wife.

>>127437314

I get that.
I'm asking if it was you that had switch those flags in that pic.

>>127431011
>Romania being in charge of what qualifies as good architecture

>>127435056

...on the 1 clear afternoon that happens twice a year.

>>127432341
They literally destroyed historic monuments because: Oprressive power structures LOL.

>>127434863
they're idiots with too much wealth. Wealth corrupts minds. Just the other day I talked to some Norwegian being proud of living from welfare and calling it "spiritual". He sponsors his drugs habit from it and is a waste of oxygen basically.
I'm not saying becoming wealthy is bad, but when you use it for socialism you're destroying society.

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>>127436737
why is NY underground so dirty? I thought it's the best of USA, vely disappointed

>>127437583
Winter is fucked up. Summer is mostly clear. They copy the west so much they have their own version of burn the coal, pay the toll.

>>127437705
>implying a cucked westerner could understand that
weeeeeew lad

>>127437790
Blacks

>>127437790
NYC is universally acknowledged as a shithole by americans. It's your own fault for trusting jew media.

>>127437795
whats the spanish timezone?
are you guys CET too?

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>>127437294
is pic related You?

>>127437315
yeah I know

>>127437284
Yes. But that is about to change.
Now they are offshoring to Vietnam, Bangladesh, etc.
As the mean salary rises in China more and more factories will shut down. And home prices are rising.

Better the chink government pulls some hundred million jobs out of their arses, or else they'd get (((globalized))) as well.

>>127437938
Yes, Brussels timezone.
Franco changed it when it wanted Hitlers help.
But we should be in GMT.

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>>127437897
makes sense

>>127437982
No, i make the real abe do the gay shit

>>127437989
There's also automation, which allows corps to produce cheaply at home:

https://eagletechnologies.com/re-shoring-trend-in-full-swing-with-industrial-automation-innovations/

>>127429642
It looks like Shanghai turned into an overcrowded mile high shit pile and you're proud of that?
I thought you chinamen were supposed to be wise and what-not

Apparently not. If the measuring stick for things to be glad about is to out white the white then I guess you're on the whi- right track. The amount of stress and negativity that pours out of metropolitan areas is incredibly huge. Those people can't be happy

t. urbanite

>>127430622
Prepare to be WOGGED in the Champions Trophy.

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>>127429642
>viewing concrete block as achievement

classic 发展中国家

>>127437790
8 1/2 million people live in NYC.
Roughly 55~60 million tourists visit every year.

25% of residents or so are black.
27% of residents or so, hispanic.

What do you expect?

You shouldn't go to one of the biggest cities in the world and expect it to be clean like the countryside.

I mean, I went to Paris and it was 100x dirtier than NYC. And I thought NYC was dirty when I used to live in the area.

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>>127429642
Well, all government is shit. But it's impressive how you people embraced the free market.

As long as you don't violate the NAP I'm perfectly fine with Chinks.

>>127429642
You could have conquered the world if you stopped being high on your own farts (confused-ianism) and being a bunch of peaceful cucks. You had it all. Then you gave us powder and now you're literally our Toy Factory in the east pole.

You owe your economic achievements to the west. If it wasn't't for us you'd be taking opium in a bamboo forest thinking it's 890 AD.

>>127438143
>do the gay shit
you'll have to post boipucci now

>>127438302
>expect it to be clean like the countryside
it's the opposite of China then, big cities tend to be cleaner here

>>127438590
Nobody wants to conquer the world
Nobody except for you.. people

>>127437989
The problem is ((them)) then, as always.

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>>127433947
Ja, Hans. Halt deine Fresse. Die Amis haben Billionen USD in uns gepumpt, damit wir bloss schön kapitalistisch bleiben und nicht meckern, wenn die BRD in ein (((nukleares))) Schlachtfeld verwandelt wird.

Wenn du wissen willst, wie wir ohne Ami-Hilfszahlungen dar stünden, dann musst du dir nur die Deutsche Wirtschaftsentwicklung seit 1990 anschauen.

Der Kalte Krieg is aus und uns gehts plötzlich schlechter. Bestimmt nur Zufall.

Auch: Warte bis wir nicht mehr vom Momentum unserer Last-Century-Industrien leben können. Wenn das Versagen des Deutschen Michels in Sachen Hochtechnologie und IT schwerwiegender wird.

Wenn Autos plötzlich Software auf Rädern werden, werden unsere schönen Grosskonzerne schön kotzen.

Ach und dann natürlich die vielen neuen Facharbeiter, die wir uns per Schlauchboot ins land holen. Mit einem IQ von unter 90 wird das sicher was.

Wir waren viel zu lange hochnäsig und wussten zu vieles einfach besser. Das wird uns bald teuer zu stehen kommen.

>>127438701
white """people"""

>>127438677
m8 i've been to beijing, while your countryside is also a trashpiled shithole it is much better than your crap cities outside of a few wealthy districts.

>>127438701
Oh come on, it's not like China doesn't have any ambitions.

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>>127437433
this is a chinese futuristic city dumping thread nao

>>127438890
Beijing is unironically a shithole tho

>>127430465
>I will give you SCS islands
>implying you will have any choice
A mighty kek was had this day

>>127439098
but you said big cities were cleaner, big cities are shitholes world wide.

>>127439098
Comfiest city to settle in China?
Wanna work abroad again, but Germany was pretty bad last time. I worked in Cologne. City was pretty and with beautiful stuff, then Turks ruined everything

>>127439098
china needs to be nuked

>>127439440
>wanting to live in China
What affliction ails you?

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>>127437897
>>127438302
Yeah, keep looking for scapegoats
It's what you do best.

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>>127439314
try chinese coastal cities next time

>>127439440
taiwan>>>china

>>127429642
but no clean air was it worth it

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>>127439549
muh blacks

>>127439635
That's bullshit though. I've been in both Taiwan and China and the former feels like a big degenerative Vietnam.

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>>127439549
Ok Tyrone

>>127439635
>outer China >> China
It's still China

ITT: assmad yuropoors

They know their era of greatness is over. China's growth in the past 40 years is unprecedented. Maybe only Japan after the Meiji restoration comes close. Deng is a god.

>>127439516
Unemployment.
Curse of the NEET.
Assburger flu
Reverse yellow fever.

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>>127437897
>>127438302
Yeah, they must be the reason..

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>>127429642

>Those buildings will collapse in 20 years.

You see this fucking thing?

It is 5 x the size of Mount Rushmore.

However, it is hollow, a wood and metallic frame plastered with concrete. It sits alone facing a giant plaza in the middle of nowhere. When I saw it, the plaza was empty with the exception of 1 vendor selling drinks and a lone figure walking across.

This is what you are, this is what is China. You are a empty shell built on a rotting frame pretending to be grand to a world that does not care for your existence. This monument will collapse and be forgotten within my lifetime.

>>127439788
ROC will rise again chang

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>>127439440
>Comfiest
I would say Shanghai or Shenzhen, but some second tier cities can be comfy too, pic related is Chengdu

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>>127439776
I'm not black

>>127439746
the fuck? did they complete the circuit?

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>>127431185
keks for correction

>>127430291
fuck off Ahmed, go worship Mohammad somewhere else.

>>127434769
Asian cities only look good at night.

>>127429642
Shenzhen is way more impressive, especially when you look at the population difference.

People have always wanted to live in Shanghai..

> 2017
> shitposting in slide threads
> ISHYGDDT

>>127439942
Scary but true. I think this is THE main problem in China. They need long term stuff rather than patches

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>>127439469
calm down sam-chan

>>127440176
can't argue with that

>>127431185
top lel

China BTFO again.

When will they learn?

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>>127439942
Interesting as fuck.
Thanks for sharing.

>>127440056
How's Tsingtao/Qingdao?
I hooked up with a girl from there by pretending to like the beer (Don't deny it, its water-down cat piss, even Maotai/wuliangye is better).

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>>127438302
>>127437897
Everything was so perfect..

>>127436255
He's not apologizing. He's attacking communists and saying that they aren't real Chinese people
>and he makes a decent case

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>>127431071
You got me anon, i chuckled.

>>127431071
What does it mean?

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>>127429642
Good for you, keep havin fun over there m8

>>127440401
This shit should always have been underground in the first place.
>>127440056
Thanks. Gotta look for Chengdu then.

>>127429642
>never invented a thing
>proud

>>127439098
Can you explain this pic? The monorail goes through a block of apartments, or is it a stop?

>>127429642
nice proxy fag

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>>127437480

>>127440056

I was in China from 3 months going from Beijing to Xian to Guangzhou. The sky was always grey and polluted and the air choked your throat. Just go anywhere on google maps and drop a ping. Grey sky.

>>127440336
lel, I remember being in China when your pic happened.

So many assblasted chinks who wanted to say "b-b-but European tourists graffiti ancient monuments all the time" suddenly seemed to know a bit about European Egyptologists and their habit of bringing stuff from pyramids back to Europe with them... and have strong opinions on it.

>>127429642
Larping must be fun. DO you want to have a chat in Mandarin, mr english teacher in China?

>>127434008
it wouldn't be though, because they wouldn't have been led by Mao and likely wouldn't be looking at an inevitable, massive economic collapse and population bomb. China isn't even truthfully all that strong militarily either, they've just benefited massively from Japan being prevented from building itself back up after WWII.

>>127439942
Poetic bantz.

>>127440828
Winter?
I went in August to Beijing and Xian. Sky was crystal clear save for a few days, where it rained like hell. Some days at night there was a blade runner tier smog on Beijing tho.

>>127440524
It's a reference to the aftermath of the Tiananmen Square massacre in 1989.

A journalist filmed "Tank Man" getting in the way of tanks operated by the army that had just murdered thousands of his countrymen for daring to be publicly angry about corruption.

If Deng Xiaoping had died in 1988, history would judge him much better than it will.

>>127434830
>Taiwan has a different flag from China
Mainland commie chinks are cucks, holyshit!

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>>127440383
>Qingdao
see>>127439605 It's nice
>water-down cat piss
you just pissed off so many germans with that post xDDD

>>127440602
some are stops, Chongqing is a weird city

>>127440828
delet

>>127440651
RARE PROXY!

>>127437445
>Also with Chinese Republic Asia would be more stabilised.

>war with Mongolia
>war with Russia as an American puppet
>still take Tibet
>war with India due to India being pro-Russia

>wouldn't act like it owns the whole continent
>Chiang Kaishek

>technology would be that of Japan's
>Chiang Kaishek

>better for Chinese themselves
>Chiang Kaishek

No.

>>127440946
China is objectively better off today than it would be under the inept and corrupt KMT, who lost the Chinese Civil War despite having EVERY SINGLE ADVANTAGE.

That's how shit they were. They lost the war because their soldiers were fleeing to join the other side despite outnumbering the communists, out-equipped and out-fed and out-trained.

>>127437208
considering relevance and power norway niggershit is cockroach compared to china

>>127440056
I was in Chengdu last winter. It was gloomy for almost all 3 months while I was in there. Saw the sun shine only for 4 days. lol

>>127441227
newfag

>>127441021

It wasn't fog, but they kept calling it fog. Fog goes away as the day goes on. It was late summer to fall. There was always this haze that obscured the horizon. If you look strait up it is blue. I felt like I had a soar throat and stuffed nose the whole 3 months.

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>>127431019
>Typical chink enjoying groundwater with industrial paint, oblivious to the health risks.

>>127441381
yeah I was in Chengdu for a week last winter too, most cities are quite polluted in winter tho, will probably take a decade to get better

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>>127429642
Seriously... thank communism and your government for not embracing the liberalism and open market that destroyed the soviet union. its why you are crushing the world economically and technologically (open source everything, no copyright law, real modern day communism)

>>127439746

Haha, Electrocution or worker's comp insurance fraud: you decide.

>>127439826
you're deluded if you think China's not headed straight for a massive crash that'll put 08 to shame, it's all already right there in plain site to see if you actually look for it.

>>127441078
Nah, it's this.
http://gizmodo.com/people-throw-themselves-at-cars-for-money-more-often-th-1695698432
It's a common fraud tactic where people throw themselves into your car to scam money. It's really quite frightening how often this happens.

>>127429642
The pollution in china will be its end.

>>127441284
>Much as I despise Mainland Chinese for invading Hong Kong with the express purpose of turning it into another shit, culturally dead mainland China city ran by communist gangsters who you are not allowed to offend...

This guy does have a point about Chiang. It wasn't until his total defeat on the mainland that he finally wised up to the whole "corruption is a problem in my government" issue.

He did a much better job on Taiwan.

HOWEVER
>China is objectively better off today than it would be under the inept and corrupt KMT,
You have to tell yourself this because it's painful to confront reality, but it's just a silly thing to say.

Thanks to Mao, you had an enormous famine and a massive amount of deforestation. Then you obediently destroyed your whole cultural heritage just so that Mao could make a political comeback after being - rightly - sidelined after the Great Leap Forward. And that same Cultural Revolution gave the entire country PTSD and killed off a few more million of you. Most of the people who were smart enough had left the communist tyrant and China's wealth dropped to Africa-tier levels while Mao played international statesman with what little wealth the country had. Since the 80s, a little bit of not-failing-all-the-time has gone straight to your heads and the propaganda has created a few generations of idiots who believe it is both right and inevitable that China will inherit the world. But these people are a lot dumber than their parents... and I'm gonna be real comfy when the Party loses control of its domestic debt bubble.

>>127441608
>yeah I was in Chengdu for a week last winter too, most cities are quite polluted in winter tho, will probably take a d̶e̶c̶a̶d̶e̶ century to get better.

Fixed it for you.

>>127441618
>GNP

Might as well call it "soviet population growth 1940-92"

>>127442085
you're not wrong which is sad.

UK rivers only recovered from the industrial revolution a few years ago and many of our beaches are still suffering due to it.

Biggest issue is soil. The Chinese have destroyed so much of their soil with pollution - that will take decades to recover.

>>127442085
100 years? chinada I'm coming!!!!11

>>127441872
If you think you're correcting me, then you are being an idiot.

Tank Man is iconic in the West. People get the reference.

Most people in the West are still semi-oblivious to what a bunch of unbelievably selfish morally bankrupt fucks the mainland Chinese are. Very few Westerners are going to be aware of the scam you're talking about, let alone when that Simpsons episode first aired.

It's 100%, definitely a Tank Man reference.

>>127441997
no. he's right.

look at the direction of the KMT. they became a US puppet government. they just legalized gay marriage, they hae high rates of immigration

you have to look at the DIRECTION of each government.

the mainand has ZERO plans to introduce gay marriage or niggers and this will NOT change

that makes it superior

look at trajectories, not current states

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>>127429642
thats true..China is right now the leading country in terms of technology,industry and production.

>>127442189
is that literally why the UK is so dead?

it's not like central europe didn't have coal and industry

I figured it was just rainfall patterns or climate

>>127441284
no, China is objectively worse off because they were led by Mao until the 80s, enduring all sorts of famines and purges that put Lenin and Stalin's to shame, and he was succeeded by a guy who did some true freeing of the markets, but most of it was artificial keynesian bs to make it look like China is strong and prosperous when it still largely is not. Nationalist China would've had at least a solid degree of true capitalistic economics from the get go like Japan and South Korea, and thus would've grown rapidly and largely sustainably, rather than artificially. If you wanna know who's truly gonna be the big dog south of Russia in the coming decades, it's India, not commie China.

>>127442755
Indias average IQ is too low for them to be a real threat.

>>127429642
> The sky is black.
> BLACKED
Nice 2010 air pollution.

>>127429642

thats like being proud of your tumor

>>127442682
is that literally why the UK is so dead?
wut

>>127429642
How's that lunger cancer going ching chong?

>>127442755
>india
fucking idiot

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>>127429642
THE CARBON FOOOTPRINGGGGG

>>127441997
>did "better" on an island along with all the gold from the mainland and 100x less people and with foreign financial support
>all you had to do was to become a puppet state that gets thrown away once you stopped being a useful pawn.

lol

China is objectively better off today because of the CCP. They weren't stupid enough to fall for the "democracy makes you grow faster" meme, and focused on agricultural reforms that enabled their shift to becoming the world factory.

Also
>"cultural heritage"
>foot binding
>opium abuse
>everything that led to the century of humiliation
Mao was right to wipe the slate clean and start over.

>China's wealth dropped to Africa-tier levels
>implying China's wealth wasn't at africa level already by the time the Civil War ended
Mao DOUBLED life expectancy in China, even if you take the famine into account.

You're just a fucking idiot.

>>127442924
the thames is disgusting. none of the rivers are swimmable. there's no fish in the rivers. there's nowhere to yacht in, unlike central europe.

in central europe you can drink the river water

>>127442755
>think India would surpass China
Didn't read the rest you said, you're just dumb.

>>127442436
The KMT has not caused in Taiwan
>a famine
>a systematic destruction of Chinese cultural history
>universities shut down for years
>multiple insane political purges that cost the lives of millions
>a drop to Africa tier wealth
>an ecological disaster unlike the world has ever seen, with the possible exception of parts of the former Soviet Union

The Taiwanese have, right now
>a far higher per capita wealth than mainland Chinese - they are going to retain this, by the way
>civil society, independent judiciary, independent journalism, free Internet
>the right to a public opinion (this is a big one)
>no legion of police state goons who will track them down if they persistently criticize their own government

As for trajectories, Taiwan is in the same place as much of the developed world: there's only so much per capita GDP you can squeeze out of human beings. Once you get around that level, it tends to stick at that level. This is why West Europe, Japan, the US and Canada all have comparable GDPs per capita... (Rich but stagnant is a lot better to live in than poor and growing)

The real trajectory for the PRC is that their debt is exploding at a rate far faster than their wealth. And their "increases" in wealth are due to absurd overvaluation of the infrastructure and real estate they've built - much of it loss making and worthless. So the real picture is China is wasting trillions on trivial shit in an attempt to make work for people, ordering financial journalists to be bullish and a mix of money printing and relentless credit expansion to pretend everything is fine.
This shit is crippling an already stagnating economy, and the official line appears to be "we're smart and will figure it out. Plus China is always a special exception to the laws of supply and demand, economics, political reality and common sense".

>>127429642
I'm proud of you too... specifically Taiwan for making mainland realize capitalism is good for the people...Now just let people believe in jesus and I'll be super proud.

>>127443008
lol mao zedong from 1950 to 1976 was literally just lost years.

>>127443045
a lot of rivers are ok but yeah the thames is disgusting as a legacy of industrialsation

>>127430553
Serbia is best European country! Screw the EU!

>>127443008
other poster's an idiot but mao was still a disaster, man

first of al, china did need to wipe certain slates clean, such as the internal wars between daoism, confucianism, and buddhism. the mohist legacies, etc.

communism was NOT the way to do it.

CCP is obviously way better today than the KMT, but the people are left with a hollow, consumerist vision of a "unified" china which will lead them down the same equality path that created the taiping rebellion.

oh, no! southern chinese underperform on the civil service exam! they're "equal han" to the north! it means the civil exam is racist!

let's have taiping part 2!

you know it's coming. the chinese state is an early version of the EU.

>>127429642
China is super power
They will buttfuck everyone in the end.
Russia is a shithole Europe is fucked and the USA is now just a bunch of whining libtards with some fat billionaire as a president who's got as much sense as slugs caught in spiderwebs.
China will go scorched earth on our faces.

>>127429642
Good. Stay there and keep improving yourselves.

>>127430322
Norway might be the best country in Europe and one of the best countries in the world.
Saying that fucking China is better than Norway... completely fucking ridiculous.
Did you get raped by a Norwegian or something?

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>>127442755
>be commie China
>GDP increased 30 times over the past 3 decades
on the other hand
>be democratic India
>GDP increased less than 7 times over the past 3 decades

how the all-mighty democracy has fallen

>>127443333
Quads always lie.
Trump gonna BTFO China.

>>127443364
pretty much any country in europe except for maybe bosnia is better than china.

a country should be measured by the "would you like to be born there" index.

fact is if you chose china you could end up in the countryside or anything but a tier-1 city and life is a misery

>>127443550
Good one
Here's you (you)

>>127443220
>thames
>ever being good
it was how the west learned to avoid cholera, do you know what rice water is? 3-5 gallons of liquid milky shit right into the river from thousands per day, over and over for decades

>>127443206
here's what hte taiwanese have
>an almost equal ecological disaster to the mainland
>about 1.5x the per capita wealth and ZERO percent growth
>kinder people
>gay marriage
>FAMINES. YES FAMINES. NOT AS BAD AS THE MAINLAND BUT FAMINES
oh, and look at that, a budding communist revolution

the KMT fucked up.

taiwan will NEVER converge on japan or korea. shut your fucking face unless you speak an east asian language, you idiot.

taiwan petered out before even reaching HALF of japan. that's a PROBLEM, you fucking retard.

debt is a problem if your economy functions off market signals. JAPAN AND CHINA DONT FUNCTION OF MARKET SIGNALS.

there wil be a debt implosion that will make zero fdifference.

if you don't have money, but you have a whip , can you still whip niggers to pick your cotton?

yes, you can.

this is the chinese model. debt is irrelevant

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>>127443550
tired of winning yet?

>>127443008
That "puppet state" that would be "thrown away" has had the US face down nuclear threats from Krushchev. Arms sales and military alliance continue. So I don't really think that Taiwan has been thrown away, even if it required un-recognizing them for the big red baby in the room to stop having a tantrum.

China's growth since 2008 is a meme. Massive credit expansion, loss making investments, ghost cities, continued pollution and loss of farmland. There's such a thing as bad growth - and that's the growth that China has had for almost 10 years. Problems mounting up, Zhang.

>Mao DOUBLED life expectancy
First off, this is right after a war. You're not silly enough to take cherry-picked Chinese government statistics at face value are you? And by the way, in reality, I doubt it anyway.

I feel bad for you sucking off a murderous dictator who killed far more of your countrymen than the Japanese did. Another one of these fucking spoiled, totally selfish Mainland richkids whose family gets rich off the corrupt system so you support it... and you are still arrogant enough to attempt to argue with people who come from superior countries that your system is better.

>>127443008
Oh and by the way, people like you are ruining Hong Kong and all the locals hate you and wish you would fuck off to whatever locust nest you buzzed over from.

Shenzen.
Special economic zones work.

>>127443715
just realised he was comparing life exptency between a country at peace and a country at war, top kek, chinks really are unbearable

>>127442876
>>127442966
>>127443084
It's already happening, whether you like it or not. India isn't looking at a population bomb because of a stupid one child policy like China is, and India is embracing the free market along with improving its military strength. Its growth isn't based on building random ghost cities and other vanity projects of its government like China's is. India is also, again, not facing a population bomb coupled with too high a proportion of males due to cultural views combined with the one child policy, like China is. China's system of keynesian economics mixed with communism and run by communists is going to collapse spectacularly while India keeps growing and starts to work towards taking regional control. Whether you want to believe it or not, it's already happening.

>>127443364
>>127443364
Never said China was better in HDI, I just said that china got their empire from scratch and they're improving day by day (creating nuclear power plants, creating new megaprojects to make their people actually eat and shit tons of other projects) meanwhile Norway was never attacked by anyone AND they found fucking oil.
This is what I've meant, Norway doesn't deserve to be rich, they have been the most irrelevant factor in Europe and i am from Croatia.

>Did you get raped by a Norwegian or something?
Norwegians are beta's, they can't rape anyone, let alone a Croat.

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>>127443746
this anon knows

>>127443783
they're normally pretty nice, and I generally agree with what they say, even if they're brainwashed

the main issue at hand is that mao was so SEVERELY retarded, but if they admit guilt ONCE they know the jewish holocaust industrial complex will destroy their country

so on a massive scale they have to sweep these things under the rug until the west is destroyed by itself

>>127443324
Communism, and its focus on improving agriculture and early healthcare/education support to the peasants, was what separated China from India.

It was what made Chinese reduction in mortality/disease the greatest act of development in the whole of human history.

Also the latter half of your post is retarded. Taiping happened because of lack of crackdown on crazy cults, like the Falun Gong today.

>>127443220
Check the life expectancy graph for China during the Mao years. All the famine did was reduce Chinese life expectancy back to wartime level for a year or two, and then it literally doubled.

>>127443206
>what is white terror
>what is becoming a puppet state
>what is the yellow river flood
The KMT lost the war because they're absolutely shit at governing despite every handicap in their favour, lol.

Taiwan is what is stagnating right now, just like Japan. Meanwhile, China grows by an Indonesia every few years.

>>127432071
But independent Tibet could be funny, i am not saying China should do this, but the whole country full of monks and 15 times bigger than Bhutan could be based in itself. I'd like to see where they could lead their culture independently. Even though i understand that the same logic can be applied to any region of Russia, to advocate its independence, but still Tibet is intresting place. Maybe i will visit it in 5 years.

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>>127444007

>>127444057
why would i compare life exptenency from a country at war and a country at peace

you do realise it is measured from birth?

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>>127429642
Props to you, friend.

The only thing I see you troubled with is sustainability in your work and pollution.

I heard your buildings last only 30 years and pollution is terrible is that right? But i guess you have to start somewhere.

Heard also you were pushing electronic transportation hard and solar energy.

If you get it right with 3d printers building buildings and get the pollution to a minimum, youwill dominate the world in 50 years. Please focus on fighting kikes then and my grandsons will join you gladly.

>>127444175
>those bright lead painted landscapes

>>127444057
taiwan is stagnating because they are already very rich but don't have kids

china grows because they have a very low starting base - a gdp per capita that is similar to the UK.. in 1920.

>>127429642
>Implying you can say otherwise without being arrested

>>127429642
Return our Atarax plox.

>>127444175
oops wrong pic >>127444007 that was guangzhou

>>127443949
>population bomb
AI's and automation are going to amke 50% of jobs obsolete within a decade. Having fewer chidlren is a good thing.

Meanwhile India is lowering it's average IQ much faster than China.

> Whether you want to believe it or not, it's already happening.
Nothing is happening AFAIK. If you have any examples in favor of the opposite then please share them.

>>127443638
A group of angry, alienated mainland losers who live in Taiwan and vote "communist" in every online poll does not make a budding revolution, you fantasist.

Taiwan does not have mainland tier ecological problems, that's just a stupid lie that you believe to make yourself feel better.

Low % growth is inevitable once a society has reached a certain level of per capita GDP. There's only so much growth you can squeeze out of people.

And China's "high %" growth is, as everyone who is informed knows, fuelled by enormous credit expansion. Especially since 2008. The "assets" of Chinese state owned banks which are apparently so rich consist in a very significant part of empty concrete boxes in ghost towns that nobody wants and nobody will ever want. If they allow prices to drop: immediate banking crash. If the prices stay the same: most Chinese can't ever afford a decent house in a place they want to live.

Stagnation is not only inevitable under those conditions - it has already arrived. The myth of Communist economic competence will evaporate and people will begin to ask "why do I let these corrupt fucks oppress me again?"

I do speak Mandarin by the way. Lived there a few years. I also deal with you dishonest pricks on a day to day basis. That's how I know so much about the PRC and how fucked up it is.
"Hurrr China people vely clever"
"Uh huh... but why do you send your kids to school and university in the US then?"

>taiwan petered out before even reaching HALF of japan
Maybe Japanese people are a bit smarter, a bit more hard working and a bit better at building societies than Chinese?

>CHINA DONT FUNCTION OF MARKET SIGNALS.
That's a stupid comment. The entire Chinese stock market is moved by the tea leaves coming from the PBoC in a way that makes the Fed look irrelevant in the US.

To claim debt is irrelevant just underlines how oblivious to reality you are. But you'll find out the hard way before too long.
>number of "mass incidents" keeps going up...

>>127443949
india has faster growth than china AND way more young people

they will be ahead, eventually, but we are talking like 2050

india warming up to japan is going to make china feel very surrounded though, they might snap and do something stupid

>>127444291
Kind sir, plox return. we need exercise.

>>127440309

Never.

Rather than fix the pollution problem the Chinese government simply made it illegal for anyone to report on how dangerous the pollution actually is.

>>127443366
India was pure socialist until very very recently, you fucking retard. The expansion for them is starting NOW, and they don't face the problem of false growth from ghost cities or a population bomb like China does. China is a paper tiger and will collapse. India will not.

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>>127429642
Hello, want a loan , my friend?

>>127444057
the "education" that resulte from the maoist reforms resulted in the modern day nongming who gave china a per capita gdp LOWER than africa

you are seriously in denial

also, the TAIPING REBELLION was communism before communism, resulting from a low iq southern chinese who resented northern chinese because they were higher iq. so he created a PRE COMMUNIST egalitarian revolt against the FALSE ETHNICITY that was created by a northern union of states

enforced equality gives rise to cults and rebellions. that's what the DAHAN was. an illusory union of people who are different. like uniting germans and italians, and getting angry when people say the italians are stupider.

stop being an idiot. I agree with most of what you're saying. but you have to stop being stupid.

>>127429642
you are either a shill or never have been in a chinese webm gore thread, plus your air is so poluted that you can't see shit 5 meters in front of you

>>127443743
>all the locals
>implying fifth columnists and cucks like Joshua Wong are the majority here in my city
Fuck off.

>>127443715
Chinese living expectancy was stuck in the 30s from the Fall of the Qing onwards to the end of the Chinese Civil War.

Under Mao, Chinese population exploded in size. This can only be explained by the doubling of life expectancy. Something you don't understand.

>>127443949
>India
>"no population bomb"
Fucking kek, they have a worse gender balance than China, retard.

http://reports.weforum.org/global-gender-gap-report-2015/rankings/

>jobless growth
>caste system
>lynch mobs killing people who eat beef
>eating cow shit and drinking cow urine
>designated shitting streets
>absolutely shit healthcare, education, every metric is behind China by at least a decade
No, you're just a fucking idiot. India will never surpass China.

>>127443783
They are unbelievably dishonest shit heads who have a weird mix of inferiority complexes (poor country, invents nothing, nobody wants to be them, most rich/smart people in the process of getting out) and superiority complexes (they are told from a young age that China and they themselves are the best people in the world). It makes for some extremely unpleasant - but usefully predictable - people.

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>>127440977
>Poetic bantz.

This needs to become a thing or a youtube channel.

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>>127444529
>be the most populated country
>ghost cities everywhere
this is what muricans actually believe

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>>127444541
>want a loan
make it 3

>>127444733

Return our Atarax, pls

>>127444310
Guangzhou's a shithole.

Shenzhen's the place to be, Nanshan and Futian are comfy... Bao'an and Louhou are shitholes... Feel free to fix the misspellings slantbro.

>>127444829
>>127444733
are you pretending to be chinese again?

>>127444829
>>127444895
I bet hes a aussie proxy.