PAY. DEBTS.

Bump for Trump

I thought Europe said they would never PAY DEBTS. What changed? How is Trump constantly able to enforce his will on other world leaders?

>>127427196
>>127427466

pay for my defense expenses please, morocco might invade us

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Fuck NATO and fuck the US

>>127427196
Wasn't that 2% of GPD supposed to be paid by 2024?

>>127427196
turns out to be completely untrue when?

>>127427466
Nothing changed.

>get told by the US to increase our defense spending
>put all the additional money into getting flat screens for the barracks

D E V I L I S H

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>>127427466
I'm a liberal and I now destroyed you. How am I able to constantly BTFO incel conservashits like this? Anyone can do the math? You'll never recover.

>>127427466
These other 'world leaders' are merely leaders of European nations.
All of them combined don't have half the power Donald Trump has.

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here's your money, ally

>>127427875
>>127428243
keep this shit up and we'll continue destabilizing syria and other african nations leaving you with no option but to accept those peaceful refugees

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>>127427196
>Debt representing more than 100% GDP

>>127428339
they dont stay neither here nor in Bulgaria, the only one you're fucking is France/Germans, which quite honestly kinda deserve it

>>127427196
Pay your own debts amerifat or have fun going bankrupt in your 60% 3rd world shithole, full of nignags.

>>127428098
More like..
>Europe buys a lot of war technology and digital infrastructure from American companies
>Increase NATO funding
>America gets more business

>>127427196
In our beaufitul free healthcare and public education.

You wanted and empire? Well you got one, main consequence beeing dozens of vassals mooching off you. If you request more money from us it means you are weak. Are you saying you admit that?

>>127427196
Why is Trump acting like that money is going directly to his pocket?

>>127428403
good point greatest ally

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You may only post in this thread if you pay your dents.

>>127427196
He better not ask us for more money or he is getting another beatiful from Erdoğan.

>>127427196
Lift restrictions :^)

You know after Trump leaves office in 2025 the Eurofags will just stop paying again.

Trump should have just dissolved NATO.

Less chance of the Kikes using it to war against goatfuckers if it does not exist.

>>127428526

>luxembourg
>belgium

lmao

>>127428526
Canada, France and Germany have no excuse for not paying fair share

>>127428526
we should invade somebody

>>127428435

Well, I can't speak for you Brits, but our military seems more than happy to stick with EADS and other European manufacturers, no matter how crappy their products are, how many flaws their designs have, how often the delivery is delayed, how much maintenance they require... you get the point.

>>127427196
Fuck off you kekistani manchild. Go die

Remember that time NATO protected europe from muslim and african invasion?

Me neither

>>127428526
Based Estonia.

>>127428964
>implying your people want that

i've talked to sweds on omegle and most of them think there isn't enough immigration lol

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>>127427875
QFT

>>127428526
Even though I supported and I still support Trump, this is bullshit. We aren't in the XX century anymore, Amerifags. We don't need
>muh army

>>127429062
holy fuck i forgot about that acronym

God you Americans are so fucking insufferable.

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>>127428526
leafs defend this

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>>127428526
Romania invests 2% of GDP towards National Defense since the new 2017 budget.

>>127429053
I'm not one of those people, and you wouldn't lift a finger anyway. NATO is all about protecting israel and keeping germany down and doesn't give a single shit about protecting europe

>>127427196

Why the fuck would we want to pay for stupid weapons that are never fired so some arms manufacturer can make a profit. If Nato actually did something like bombing ISIS then I would support it.

>>127427196
Norways defence will reach 2% within 2024, which is the agreement. Every year we are investing 2b more. We are upgrading our defence buying f-35, p-8 poseidons, Hk416-17, tanks + upgrading our current ones and HDW 212s.

>>127427196
We paid more than enough in Afghanistan and refugees.

Best part is that when the fucking president of the US told Merkel in her face pay up or gtfo, she weaseled her way out of it saying we are still not going to pay.

Meanwhile Germans have not given an moment of respite for Greek government debt relief or access to to the european bond market (which we btw have payed for).

What a bunch of slimy and greedy bunch, Germans are. At the same time Greece is one of the top Nato spenders in defence and are basically the only military bulwark against Turkish Islamic horde.

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>>127429547
that's the attitude of a bludger mate

>>127429636
Pay debts.

>>127429185
They still think they are strong and agile empire like Rome under Octavian, with 200 years of "USA stronk" to come.

When in fact they are old and sickly West Rome of the late 4th century. I am so happy to be alive during their downfall.

>>127429636
Pay em.

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>>127427196
Man, Clapistanis sure are retarded.

>>127428435
Don't you guys have your own rather large military industrial complex?

>>127428048
Yes, something changed. I'm slightly disgusted by the G6 and NATO catering to an utter and complete moron.

>>127429636

Richt, because you did such a bang-up job of keeping the muzzies from swarming over your shores.

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>>127429425
You're right about it not giving a shit about Europe. It's the U.S. keeping most of Europe under it's thumb so they don't shift away towards Russia or China. You belong to us. You are our property to do with as we please. Sweden will join NATO by the end of Trump's first term, guaranteed.

>>127429742

you pay up first, or else daddy Trump is going to scrap Nato and then say hello to your new Russian overlords.

>>127428526
>Germany
>1.2%
That's just fucking shameful.

>>127429957

>"Merkel says every refugee is welcome to come"

>Expect Greeks and Bulgarians to be able to stop hundreds of boats in thousand km border without sinking the boats.

Its all on you Kraut boy.

>>127428526
Daily reminder that a percentage of fucking nothing is still fucking nothing.

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>>127427196

>>127430089
Daily reminder that you need to pay debts pls or cozy up to Putin.

>>127429973
What I'm supposed to pay? 2% of our GPD we agreed to reach by 2024?

>>127430089
doesn't matter how much they commit, as long as they pay their agreed upon 2%. the usa could bankroll the entire nato army if it wanted to. that's not the point. we want the good faith that comes with the 2%

>>127428526
U.S. repossesses Luxembourg when?

>>127430063

It was you chucklefucks who waved them through onto the Balkan route in the first place.
Merkel's retardation had no influence on that.
At least Hungary has plugged the flow for now, because you sure as hell didn't.

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No wonder why Trump was so friendly with Greece

Best.NATO.Ally

>>127430251

Hungary didn't do jack shit you retard, the Syrian/Iraqi/Afghan refugees still passed through the Balkans and we are talking about 1.500.000 in numbers.

Greece, Italy and Bulgaria still has a fuckload of immigrants stuck in our lands because of your fucking retardation, and complete contempt for European borders. At the same time Germans cozied up with Erdogan to get your refugee fix.

It's all on you, and the German habit of blaming others for your own misgivings is starting to get old.

Russia seems like a much better alternative to these moronic burgers, to be frank

>>127430260
With your shitty GPD 2.4% is nothing

>>127429351
big deal 2% of the romania gdp is like $7

>Nato
>a club where you have to pay

Its like Trumptard has no clue what he is talking about.

Don't want to spend so much on defense? How about you reduce the trillions for the us budget and stop driving around with your carriers everywhere. Or use money to feed all the refugees your bombings create.

>>127430559
give me your oil money, oil nigger

>>127430578
Apparently you missed this post: >>127428526

>>127430671
Suck my dick whore

>>127430648
>use money to feed all the refugees your bombings create
Nah, we'll just let you take care of them for us. Germany loves the religion of peace, remember?

>>127430648
or how about you pay your fucking 2% you cock sucking faggot german slavic rape babby? the usa has been trying for years to reduce our presence in your cucked nigger country and you fucking refuse to build up your army and defense because you rely on us. you then have the balls to get mad at my country? after ww2 we put billions into your country with the marshall plan and built up germany faster than any other country YOU invaded. this was at the cost of diplomatic relations because the rest of yurop saw themselves as the victims and not germany. now you have the balls to spit in our face? you deserve to be eradicated

>>127428526
Greece, Poland, Estonia and UK pay enough. UK is default, Estonia is irrelevant puppet. Greece and Poland basically the only countries that we should examine and ask ourselves why. Poland why is obvious, because they always been the opening lamb to slaughter for war. Greece is bankrupt and doesn't uses weapons to protect itself from migrants. Nuff said.

>>127430471

Numbers dropped rapidly as soon as the fence was up.
The Erdogan deal was set up by Merkel and her morons so they could pretend they did something "humane" to stop the refugees, unlike those evil, evil Hungarians.
Ultimately, it was the responsibility of the EU border states to keep the Schengen area secure.
You had one job, Greece. One job.

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>>127430559
>t shitskin with literally 0 army lol

Greece has the biggest and largest army in the EU.

Stay mad irrelevant faggot

>>127428048
if they don't pay it's just going to escalate to more hostile trade tariffs and eventually war. The USA spends like $500B+ per year on their military, we're coming to a point in time where they're going to start using it to shake up the world.

>>127427196
Cant pay, EU too busy fining us for billions over not being an economic shithole

>>127428964
I remember the time they stopped us from doing something about it

>>127430929
Isn't the US's Defence budget almost double your GDP?

>>127427196
>paying the United States of Israel to serve as their bullet catchers

Hmmm, perhaps the commie fucks do have a point afterall.

>>127430929
>Greece has the biggest and largest army in the EU.
Correction:
USA has the largest American weapons on Greek land paid by Greece.

>>127429100
there were devastating world wars like 70 years ago and there has been constant middle eastern aggression ever since. Not to mention that Russia and China aren't exactly predictable and it's very possible for either one of them to take unexpected hostile action on a western country at some point in the future

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>>127430923
>implying flooding E.U with immigrants is not a German plan

Our government is cucked like yours.They just doing what Merkes will say and Merkel will do what (((they))) say

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>>127427196

Europe is a third world shithole without America paying for it's defense, paying for its new medicines.

Fuck em.

Even stop throwing them NASA hand-offs, we don't need a french made Mars spectrometer, do it in house, better and less money.

FUCK THEM.

>>127431120
And your point is?

>>127431192

At least that we can agree on.
I really dread having Merkel as chancellor for another 4 fucking years.

>>127431210
Then fuck off already

>>127431192
Actually Greece agreed to it, since this way debt can be forgotten a little, but in return you have to accept refugees and corporations. Now Greece has no economy beyond what is available in Greece like coal and olives. Funny thing, you cut down 1000 year old olive trees for foreigner supermarkets, but you still got your religion, but religion can exist without Greece.

>>127430929
Pay debts faggot. We are one of the original 12. So stfu.

No one cares about you. Only reason you were allowed in NATO is to prevent conflict between you and turks. No one will come to aid a dead country.

>>127431257
Your 2% on defence doesn't mean much if your GDP isn't that large

>>127430854
>we have been trying to reduce our presence
Mmh..no you have not. Do you think we would care if you fly your drones from another country?
The army is for self defense, not for your crazy adventures in irak, afghanistan, syria or wherever. We are surrounded by friendly states and IF someone would act up our economical might far surpasses anything an army could do.
The marshal plan did help germany, yes. It also helped the US atleast in equal terms, we bought lots of shit from you.
Now trumptards are mad because they believe in the illusion that they don't have free healthcare because we somehow force them to buy good german products. Or because we want that you maintain thousands of nuclear missiles.
Kinda funny, you spend so much, yet a even bigger retard in north korea does not give a fuck because he has just a handful of bombs.

Lets assume for a moment the 2% goal is reached. That would mean germany spends more cash than russia (Who has several fleets, again thousands of nuclear missiles and hundreds of thousands soldiers more). This is NOT needed for a country that has no desire to wage war and the neighbours would be the first to be concerned if germany would switch into "war mode" again.

TL,DR: muritards are mad, can't do anything about it while the whole world laughs at them and their allies will now seek stronger ties with china. Well done.

>>127427196
To make new tax presents to your corporates or because your Orangutan-in-chief is hyperventilating?

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>>127431499
yes, we have. didn't read the rest of your drivel

>>127431405

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp?form=form&country1=greece&country2=norway&Submit=COMPARE

Id put my money in my mouth if I were you.

>>127431424
And still have better and larger army than you lol.The only thing you have are the nuke subs

Money isn't supposed to be paid to anyone, it's about spending equivalent of 2% of GDP for defense purposes.
So I have no idea how is money "pouring in''.

>>127431548
>didn't read
That sums up pretty much why muricans voted for trump and they the way they do

GTFO and take your soldiers in germany with you.

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>>127431210
Here. Have dead cunts.

>>127431499
>no desire to wage war
Because you don't want war you think it won't happen?
>pls don't invade me daddy Putin pls we don't want you to so you can't do it

>>127431424

You do realize that military power and maintaining an army isn't just spending money on guns/missiles right?

It means buying latest equipment, maintaining already bought equipment, buying upgrades, training new personnel and whole array of other problems.

Greece spends 2.4. percent of its GDP to be always battle ready in case of a land/sea war with Turkey, and not ballistic missiles like the UK does, due the difference goals of defence the two countries have.

>>127427196
USA should pay more money because they cause all the wars.

>>127431628
>larger army than great britain
>greece
>http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing-europe.asp


desperate cuckboy

>>127431771
Yeah, Russia, a country with 150 million citizens that is facing an economic crisis is just about to invade a 500 million people entity and totally has the resources to deal with the fallout.
Are you 12 years old or something?
Russia is only a threat to countries like Ukraine. And who the fuck cares about Ukraine, it's not even a real country.

>>127428526
We're not paying
Our military doesn't even do anything other than put up sandbags during floods

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>>127428526
>greece 2.4%
yeah but that's like £15 to be fair, finding change down the back of the sofa is an economic windfall to them

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>>127431966

>>127431589
You can barely feed your army, yet alone fuel to aircraft and tanks.

Where did the 2% come from? Some part of the treaty? You don't get to say 'Everyone should pay 2%, why aren't you paying 2%?' after the fact.

>>127427196
Kek.
Most coutries, including ours, are already increasing their defence spendings.

During the last elections Le Pen promised 3% of the total state budget, Fillon 2.5% and Macron 2%. Most countries are doing the same, so Trump didn't accomplish shit.

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>>127427196
>i will get rid of NATO

>>127428526
get fucked you scared fucking pussies

>muh russia!

LMAO and you are the 'savior of the white race'? while being scared of whites?

>>127431966

I'd like to see your foreign ministers face, that fat man, prissy little faggot, Boris Johnson, when Russia bankrolls the Baltic and Ukraine with Trumps blessing after USA scraps Nato.

A million time Russia in Europe than dealing with you neurotic fucks.

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>>127427196
>why don't you increase military spending goy? you have to die in the middle east with us reeeee
yeah we don't want to send our soldiers to die for your kike masters
fuck off (((Trump)))

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>>127431900
>Most battle tanks
Greece

>Most jet fighters
Greece

>Most personnel(active+reserve)
Greece

>Biggest Fleet
Greece

>Most artillery
Greece

Lol stay mad roach nigger

>>127428398
What is the debt ?

>>127431818
You do realize that based on NATO contracts you have to buy upgrades? It's not an option, that's an order. This is how Americans make money, with upgrades. What use is Greek army if it can't protect its land? You are getting invaded big time and they are changing your genetic structure more than in 4000 years.

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>>127432135
>when Russia bankrolls the Baltic and Ukraine with Trumps blessing after USA scraps Nato.
if it's anything like your current women Putin will buy greece with a 24 pack of ready-salted walkers crisps

lol at nato

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>>127432456
>mudslim sperm

Take back your 3rd world shithole first.Then we can talk muslim cuck

>>127427196
Payments? What drug is this moron on?

>>127432456
>have lefty goverment
>give Eastern Slavic, Balkan and African women passport
>''So see, the amount of national prositutes are on the rise''
This reasoning and argumentation, though

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>>127428180
That thing is a walking skeleton with someone's skin on. What the actual fuck is that bitch.

>>127432361
Debt = dedicated enslavement to foreigner financial masters and selling your women for bread prices. Look around Latin America, it already happened there.

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>>127432083
yes the deal was that every country would pay 2% and many countries have failed to meet this agreement despite signing the treaty

>>127432776
>the deal was that every country would pay 2%

The 'deal' was that every NATO member would ramp up their defence spending to 2% until 2024, if (!!) the economic circumstances allow it. Read the fine-print.

>>127432776
NATO is obsolete, since it was created to protect from Communist Russia and Russia is capitalistic now with many oligarchs. Instead USA invoked NATO to drag us into Afghanistan and on top of that we also have to take refugees, when USA should be taking 100% of all refugees.

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>>127428526
REMINDER: The two guys talking to each other during Trump's NATO speech were the prime ministers of Belgium and Luxembourg.

>>127432882
>if the economic circumstances allow it
>USA trillions of dollars in debt
>USA still pays their denbts
makes ya think

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>>127432528
>Take back your 3rd world shithole first
i'd say not to throw stones in glass houses, but i appreciate you probably can't afford the stone
>can talk muslim cuck
true with our upcoming caliphate you'll be able to discuss those 400 years of being owned by the ottomans, give us some tips on the proper anal stretching exercising

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>>127429887
> I'm slightly disgusted by the G6 and NATO catering to an utter and complete moron.


yeah well the US is disgusted and tired of catering to the rest of the world. its a military alliance where none of the members spend much on their military and the US is the country that picks up the slack. its always been a big waste of money for the country and its huge that this moron is actually doing something about it.

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>>127432528
lmao fuck off you retarded wog, you're literally the asshole of Europe right now

bunch of greasy, lazy, incompetent and corrupt olive niggers

fucking pay denbts you hairy cunt

>>127427196
Already paying 2%

>>127428519
Because Europe will buy weapons and artillery from the US. Are you daft?

>>127432974
>USA still pays their denbts
First of all, a smaller defence budget is not debt. Second of all, debt in absolute numbers rarely means anything, pull up debt per GDP for a more relevant metric.

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>>127432977
>Can't argue with the truth
>Start shitposting

Did i hit a nerve ahmed? Hah...

Enjoy your caliphate

>>127433046
Greece will never pay debt, same as Latin America or Africa won't. They will forever be slaves as long as they buy foreigner weapons and have foreigner banks.

>you don't spend enough on defense thats why we have to cut costs for other things!
>promise several billions more for the military instead of reducing the amount

Trump logic

>>127433100
>debt in absolute numbers rarely means anything

is this you corbyn?

Pay carbon debts

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>>127433161
>every muslim has their kid/mother/father/child bride/jihadi hostage/female sex slave/male sex slave/goat sex slave and goat wife named mohammed
>surprised it's most popular

>>127430089
It's still 2% of what they have. That's why its a percentage and not a fixed sum.
Go back to school Achmed.

>implying the money won't be spent to introduce refugees into EU army

>>127427196
We should leave NATO, we will survive the """"ebil ruskis"""".

>>127427815
Last time Muslims invaded spain and portugal Europe became smarter

>>127433490
fuck off, kike.

>>127432253
You know, if the quality of the equipment is shit, it doesn't matter how many of them you have, because all that means is your will lose more in any actual combat.

Quality>Quantity

>>127433016
>catering to the rest of the world
>the US is the country that picks up the slack

Your own fault for playing world police and having all those retarded wars, you Clapistani Trump cuck.

>actually doing something about it
You dumb fuck sure are gullible. Just because President Cheetoh claims something doesn't make it true. He doesn't even seem to understand how NATO works.

>>127427196
I thought he deleted that tweet like he did the pro-immigrant one and the fuck the wall one and the welfare forever one? You gotta watch the kike that runs his twitterbot stream.

The American troops stationed in Germany could take over the complete European continent within a week.

>>127432940
Amazing speech, and the reactions, hhhnnngg
>uncomfortable shifting
>Defensive postures
>Guilty looks
>talking amonst the losers

>Best part
"This is a beautiful building, I won't even ask what it costs, beautiful"

>>127433100
Greek debt was created artificially and therefore it can be re-created any time if they happen to pay the debt. So paying denbt would be entirely stupid. Those are all numbers pulled out of ass of financial elite, they can do whatever they want and they will happily employ their expert into your financial institution so that expert can steal again money, which gives him money and then ask to be bailed out, which gives him money again and at end he sells to same people that employed him, so he makes profit 3 times by being corrupt.

>>127427466
Nothing changed, he's just trying to get some appreciation in his country because Europeans think he's a dumfuck

>>127433542
>Brand new battle tanks
>Brand new subs
>Brand new artillery
>F-16 jets with the most recent upgrade

I totally agree with you

>>127433568

He doesn't need to understand how NATO works.

All he needs to understand is that the U.S. pays more than their fair share and that the EU is nothing but freeloaders.

>>127433521
Educate yourself

>>127433712
>U.S. pays more than their fair share and that the EU is nothing but freeloaders
what service is the US providing? bombing sand nigs so the come faster to Germany and protecting us from the evil communists?

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>>127433542
Plus the most important thing is who operates the equipment.

Roaches got rekt at al-bab with their new equipment

>>127427196
Cry some more, little over 1% spending here
You hace enough goyim cannon fodder for foreign adventures in your mongrel cunt

>>127431676
I assume because many of the arms manufacturers benefitting from the increased spending will be US companies

>>127428526
Hello

Fuck the west. Russia should annex europe since they can't do anything to resist anyway.

>>127433593
>cant take control of shitty 3rd world countries
>cannot win against rice farmers and gooks
>lose thousands of soldiers to sandniggers
>muhhhh army
Lmao go and suck israels dick you bitchboy

>>127433712
>POTUS
>doesn't need to understand the institution he goes to for a high level meeting
>Clapistani logic

>the U.S. pays more than their fair share and that the EU is nothing but freeloaders

Utter nonsense you retarded Clapistani. You basically pay what you yourself want to pay. No one's forcing you. The EU is far from being freeloaders either you moron.

Too bad Obama only was a small blip of hope to overcome the utter and vast spread retardation your country and its people is.

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>>127427196
OUR! The word is OUR! WHERE'S OUR MONEY?
WITH A FUCKING QUESTION MARK BECAUSE ITS A FUCKING QUESTION.

How come so many kiddies these days can figure out how to post on /pol/ but don't actually know the English language? Soooooooo many kids say "are" when they mean "our" its not even funny. Its keeps happening. Ive never noticed it before but as time goes on more and more kids use are instead of our. They are getting it from somewhere and I don't know from where but its all the same place - it must be. I know for a fact that OP is a young kid.

GenZ will save the white race is a lame meme.

>>127433888
They are already busy with Saudi Arabia for years, but they can't get enough. Of course old weapons will be sold to Africa, so that when they get invaded they will be defeated and pay 2 times price, first buying old weapons, then getting defeated by starting a conflict by mr. Shekelmaster.

>>127433772
Hello, yes, would you like us to remove all anti-missile systems from your countries, since basically all of them are ours?

>He actually trusts the Dutch

lmao even Obama was more bright

>>127433647
That's decent gear, but not the best.
not by a long shot.

>>127427466
Germany doesn't actually have that much power for starters.
Merkel forgot her lesson and has been put in her place.

We will be reducing our spending while they increase theirs. Leading to an industrialized militant society again.

Only a matter of time before the Kraut gets loose again ;^) next world war soon.

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>>127427196
I'll just leave this here.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

>>127428339
Why do you idiots want us to increase defence spending? The only people who would benefit are lockheed martin (((shareholders))).
>>127430183
>>127430213

>>127434146
>would you like us to remove all anti-missile systems from your countries
take those 0 anti-missile systems of yours that we have here

>>127433975
Most people would generally consider it unwise to leave almost the entirety of their defense to an external country that is increasingly irritated at your incompetence. Of course then you'd have to stop subsidizing jihaad.

>>127427466
It was agreed years ago. Trump is making them angrier and more likely to sanction America over the Paris Clinate deal. He doesn't know how to neogotiate shit in politics.

Didn't trump say he was going to cut NATO funding?

>>127434001
>but don't actually know the English language?
You have to take into account he's a retarded Clapistani with little formal education. :(

>>127434346
20 trillion has been taking for so long. I been watching the nines to round up for some time. Trillion really is a big number.

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>>127434481

>lol the EU sanctioning America.

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>>127434312
>We will be reducing our spending
Do you actually follow your own president's proclamations? All your President Retard wants to reduce is spending for your own people, especially the poor and the elderly, you retarded Trump cuck.

Your country has officially become the #1 joke in the world again, congratulations.

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>>127427196
NATOshits blown the fuck out, have fun paying for american corporate wellfare.

>>127434526
It's a scary number, and it's only getting bigger.

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>he actually thinks Europe will pay
Euroasian alliance when?

>>127434642
And if happens? What then? Bush got in trouble with steel. If Trump remains and does jack shit he can make everyone else do the work but he is a bully who didn't get his sick sucked so he makes bad deals.

>>127433161
Nice fake pic you faggot.
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37254187

>These latest figures show Oliver is the most popular boys' name for all regions of England except London and the West Midlands, which both had Muhammad as the top name.

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>>127435090
There's more than just 1 type of Muhammad.

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>>127433016
mfw

USA needs to stop spending

It doesn't need europe to spend more to spend less... yet trump is acting like the USA military is severely depleted @ 600 billion a year

MFW

how much must we spend on ridcously over priced military equipment with only marginal benefits over dramatically cheaper stuff it replaces? Why do we need to expand our navy from 300 to 500 ships when the price has gone into the billions each... and they are sitting ducks for missiles traveling at mach 10?

>>127427196
PAY DENBTS

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>>127433612
IDK where you saw that

the rest of the world saw laughing and smirks.. trumps a joke except to the sunni muslims who are buttering him up to attack the shia muslims

It's hiarious to me how people on here and other sites call Trump a moron or idiot. They're so pathetic and lacking in imagination that they just automatically want to put themselves above anyone in power they can criticize without being criticized back.

>Evil, sad losers.

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>>127427196
Not gona happen yenk.

Your wont get NATO meat shield so you can go to war with iran for saudis, you will not get the Syrian pipeline. Your time is over billions will be lost and Europe will be free to choose. Your time is over.

>>127427196
for what purpose?
what difference does it make if germany has 800 or 500 leopards, 100 or 200 eurofighters.
germany once had 700 starfighter jets and they did absolutely nothing with it.
if germany buys weapons they will only be in storage for 20years and then sold to some eastern euro shithole and then get into terrorist hands.

from a military viewpoint completely useless demand from trump here.

>>127436316
This

>>127435916
xD

>>127436316
>>127436471
>golly gosh! I don't understand why Trumpie would like more money spent by NATO countries, it's not like with those billions of dollars some of it might get spent on shit made in the US

>>127428964
They didn't do jack shit to help when Argentia was attacking the Falklands either.

>>127427196
We're not in NATO, burger

>>127430854
T. retard
US funneled money into Europe to stop their own inflation

>>127432253
Yet your army lacks the IQ to use any of those

>>127433712
Burger IQ

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>>127427196
wat, no monnie

>>127436724
witch will never happen in case of Europe. You see we have a weapons indiustire that is not producing shit like america 24/7.

Europe would never buy weapons from america.

>>127428526
I always forget that France is back in NATO.

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>>127427196
Nobody ever offered Russia to join(((
Turkey is your best buddy and yet we are not ((democratic)) enough apparently

>>127437173
hmm interesting, can you tell me more about it? Was the US like Spain? Did they steal so much Jewish gold that they would have a hard time?

>>127437560
I can guarantee you that you have some US equipment. They win in any case either they get more money or they get more equipment so that you can help them create more rapefugees with a bigger and better equipped army

>>127438203
the only us weapons we have now are harpoons, amraams, harms, old Pershing 1 rockts, all of with gets thrown away as we have programs to replace that US shit with native products.

US wont get any gibs and no nato increase when the whole EU armys combinded outnumber the US forces. Fuck we outnumber in active duty personnel Russia. There is no need for more soldiers rather for less.

EU will be free, US can go and suck dick, get of mein Kontinent. No Thaad, no EU as future battlefield.

>>127438160
complain to the saudis, you make them lose money. US are a puppet of them an the petrol dollar.

>>127438203
Yes actually like the Spanish gold inflation,
But US noticed it and dumped the money into Europe, A place where they also had an interest to rebuild against Soviet and so they themself could sell them their own weapons

When the brettonwoods system collapsed was when Europe noticed that the US dollar was overvalued

>>127428666
Our excuse is that we're your hat. Who's going to invade your hat? You wouldn't let them if they tried. We are so comfy :B

>>127431902

500million people that are more or less unprotected if the US leaves.

>>127438714
And i think it was France that wanted (their?) gold back that caused the collapse

>>127432086

Was your last election before or after Trump got elected running on the ticket of making you bludgers pay your fair share?

we need to abandon Europe and just form the fucking America, Russian, Israeli alliance already

least Russia and Israel aren't fucking retarded and gay

>>127438618
dont the eurofighters need special NSA cryptic keys for some vital system to function?

it is the case with our austrian eurofighters. if the US wants to shut them down they can do so immediately.

>>127427196
Well the UK is the second largest country that puts money into NATO as the founder along with the US

>>127430471
>Be Greek
Get angry at other counties for not paying debts

>>127439955
they are completely broke and will likely never recover, give them a break.

>>127439796
no our EF 2000 are not infected with this shit, hence why we dont buy any US gear. F35 is such trap too.

>>127428606
Turks are broke as a joke. You need a payment plan, Mohammed?

>>127427196

Make me :^)

>>127428435
Or you know, buy military hardware that isn't complete overpriced garbage

>>127430125
Someone should just fucking annex luxembourg already

>>127427196
Yeah I doubt were going to be making that 2%

>>127440144
http://www.euronews.com/2017/02/18/opinion-greeces-economy-strongly-recovers-for-first-time-since-2010

I dont think so!

>>127433490
>jewish education

>>127428526
why the FUCK do we pay more than Spain?

>>127433712
Then fuck off. Let NATO collapse, Europe will create a defense alliance which serves it's needs rather than playing to USA's fiddle. And your country's sphere of influence shrinks into obscurity. It's a net win for everyone

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>>127437496
Geert is mijn neger

>>127430125
It's a weird feeling when your country's politicians don't fail you in something.

>>127427196
The EU is saving their money to pay for the German Continental Army. I'm sure Merkel and Juncker will gently persuade them down the path of enlightenment.
I wish them luck trying to avoid becoming a Russian state with an army of Turks and Trannies.

>>127451480
can't fucking wait

>>127447791
>why the FUCK do we pay more than Spain?
We "don't pay to NATO". We realocate gov's money to defense budget according to our goals
>do we pay more than Spain?
Just look at our GDP to Spain's

Learn what is % and % of GDP means. It could save your life.

>>127434481
>The EU sanctioning the worlds largest economy
Wow I guess germans really can't understand basic economics to see why this is a bad idea.
Must be because of all those jews you killed, eh Hans?

We should just leave NATO it doesn't matter how much they pay this is still a waste of taxpayer money.

>>127455094
But no one is forcing you to pay.

>>127427196
I agree, defending the one and only Jewish state isn't going to pay for itself. GIBB SHEKELS GOYS

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>>127434660
>Your country has officially become the #1 joke in the world again, congratulations.

yet were still the best country in the history of mankind. keep giggling, ahmed.

>>127447547
I'm sure they're eternally grateful for the privilege of becoming a German satellite.

>>127433645
The same Europeans preaching "not all muslims" while their daughters get blown up by muslims.

>>127434660
>#1 joke
You're thinking of Sweden. Germany is a close second though.

>>127427196
If we run a negative GDP this year NATO should give us money.

>>127457682
Huh? That's fucking retarded, get back in the kitchen, slut.

>>127430977
This. Time to take over Canada and kick all the Canadians out to Europe.