What are the most important languages in the world? I'm

Arabic

Are we talking about economic importance here? Because if so, the most important tend to be Mandarin, French, German and Japanese. Chinese is the most widely spoken, but Japanese is good in business, and German is the largest EU economy, and French is powerful in its own right.

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Magyar.

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No. You will never be fluent in Mandarin unless you spend years and years at it. Learn a European language like Italian or French. Or since you are in America learn Spanish.

Taking courses in any of these you will actually learn a lot and once you finish it is very easy to continue learning in your own time without help from teachers.

>>127426476
Chinese is not worth the trouble for personal use & travel, but is useful for business. I think >>127426657 has the best answer. Unless you're a weeb.

>>127426476
It's not worth it. Mandarin people use animal names for other countries, thailand is "cat people", france is "wolf people" etc. You are not even human in their eyes.

Seriously they're cunts ask anyone in the steel industry.

If you want to learn a language, learn english. if you already did that, german is pretty easy, and useful.

if you're dead fucking serious learn russian and get ready for one great literary adventure after another.

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>>127426657
Well if you want to take a vacation to Europe I guess you'll need to be familiar with Arabic, but who would want to learn such an ugly language?
Chinese is the superior option.
你好

>>127426807
Chinese is also good for business. They're expanding and their businesses are getting very savvy. For example, the largest infrastructure in downtown Los Angeles is invested by a Chinese group.

Maybe I'm just biased 'cause I've been studying Chinese for 5 years but it's very useful.
大家都应该学习普通话,世界的未来就是中国的未来!

>>127426476
Learn chinese if you want an introduction to other oriental languages. Japan uses chinese in their script, and Korea has a lot of similar sounding words with chinese like "library" or "kitchen". At the moment china is growing economically right now I'd say its a step in the right direction but then again I wouldn't want competition from foreigners. Learn whatever you want

>>127426956
Really? Years and years? I've really wanted to learn to speak Mandarin or Japanese. Haven't decided yet, but if I do I would go hardcore at it. But taking years seems a bit intimidating.

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>>127426967
>It's not worth it. Mandarin people use animal names for other countries, thailand is "cat people", france is "wolf people" etc. You are not even human in their eyes.
That's completely and totally wrong wrong.
Theword for France is 法国 (fa guo), law and country literally but it's based off of the pronunciation of France. Thailand is 泰国 (tai guo) which just means tai and country.

Don't make up shit and say it like it's a fact just because you think it is without doing the slightest bit of research.

>>127427163
Hey, fuck you. I like his version better.

>>127426476
Chinese and English. Spanish is one of the most important, though.

Speaking apart from super influential and important native swedish: English, Spanish and Portuguese.

Will learn Chinese. Arabic would also be important due tobthe sheer number of speakers, but will not learn because it sounds too ugly and demonic.

But... English is the most important language, obviously. It has cemented it's place to always be.

I wanna learn enough languages to be likely to be able to communicate onnall continents, though.

Anyone who is under 40 and goes through life without knowing more than one language is likely retarded.

Chinks will eventually learn English. They're already trying. All those third world languages are useless unless you want to go there for whatever reason.

>>127426476
Javascript

>>127427349
>Anyone who is under 40 and goes through life without knowing more than one language is likely retarded.
t. learned english

>>127427367
>implying there isn't a country full of them that use english as their first language

Welcome to singapore. 80% chinese, all english speaking. I dont know whether I want to slap our president for forcing us to be bilingual or hug him.

>>127427013
NEVER learn chinese, because you'll be the one who always has to deal with these assholes.
Seriously. Fuck chinese people, especially tourists.

>>127426476
mandarin isn't worth it
chinks want to do business with other chinks
there's too many of them in the states for you to be a language intermediary

What's used more Cantonese or Mandarin? Why the fuck don't the chinks just pick one to all use? It's like japs with their three different types of lettering.

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>>127427325
Believe what you want but it ain't true.
>>127427367
But English as the world' lingua franca is just a vehicle for international degeneracy. We should encourage the use of different languages to stop the flow of new world crap.

English, Spanish, Mandarin, Russian

>>127427013
I know it's a hard question to answer, but how hard it it learning chinese compared to other languages (with roman alphabet)? If you have learned other languages, that is.

Really willing to learn Chinese, but their crazy letters scare me a bit. Im pretty lazy and learn easily from just hearing the language etc, but thinking it might not apply for such an alien language.

>>127426476


Ancient Greek and Latin.

Who do you think created the modern world?

Mandarin isn't worth it beyond learning for sake of learning. Its a tonal language so saying one word could mean like 10 different things. Which is horrible when you're dealing with other folks.

English is probably only real language you really need to learn. Spanish is a distant second because illegals refuse to learn English.

>>127427527
Mandarin is the official language of China.

>>127426476
someone get a anon with the steel industry set

>>127427465
I've got a friend in Beijing who works for a mobile game company there and he says they're friendly as hell and look at him as if he was a type of god because he's white and speaks their language. But he's French by birth and speaks four languages so he's got a lot more going for him. I guess maybe it depends what types of chinks you do business with. He says the country ones are peasants and dumb as all hell.

>>127427447
Me? And spanish, and Portuguese. Will learn more.

>>127426476
English,
Chinese,
German,
Russian,
Spanish,
Arabic,
French.

In that order unless you actually live near an area where a large part of a community speaks one of those languages.

>>127426657
fpbp

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>>127426476
Learn Mandarin at your own risk

>>127427148
Really depends on how much time and effort you put into it. I know a girl who started with Uni courses and went from zero to translating
Mandarin live on German TV in under four years.

Also remember that it is not that you will be completely useless for the first few years. It will sound like shit but they will start to understand some of what you are trying to say after 6 months. After two years you will understand most of what they are saying. It may take "years and years" but it is something totally worth doing. Do it! But take Mandarin. China is the future.

>>127427148
Oh please. Spoken Chinese is very simple. The pronunciation will be tougher, especially that pretty much every region has a different one. It's the written Chinese that's next to impossible to master.

>>127427163
Sup chinky

>>127426476
dont go for what is most important. go for how you want to design you life.

>>127427745
Dammit. I can never read these large pics on my phone. It's blurry as shit.

>>127427148
It takes like 10 years to become fluent in Japanese

>>127427457
I was talking about China.

>>127426476
English, Arabic, Mandarin, Spanish, French in that order.

>>127427605
Check the /into/ wiki. It should link to a site that compares difficulty of languages, assuming that your starting point is English.

>>127427912
What about Russian?

>>127427527
Because china is like the US in the sense that it was united through one government. They are all different people with different languages but the chinese script was used to standardize the country's language. You can pronounce 你 as 'ni' in mandarin or 'lei' in cantonese. Cantonese is used in places like guangdong.

>>127427893
Where do you think singaporeans come from? My grandmother is from china and she now speaks english fluently. Not to say most chinese cant speak some form of english because of exposure to foreigners, especially sellers on online malls.

>>127427527
They have picked one to use, it's Mandarin. The only part of China that you need ANY Cantonese is Hong Kong but they also know English there. The other 99% of China uses Mandarin.
>>127427605
Chinese doesn't have letters, per se. Each character, which there's up to 5000 used regularly, has its own meaning and its pronunciation.
It is hard, but not as hard as it sounds, because every character is made up of a few different radicals which are used in multiple characters. The radicals imply meaning or pronunciation usually.
For example: the word for rice/food is 飯, which is composed of two smaller characters/radicals. The left part is 食, which means food, the right is 反, which is pronounced fan and suggest the pronunciation of 飯, which is also fan, but with different tone. The meaning of 反, which is "against", is irrelevant to meaning to the character, but is important to phonology.
Writing and reading is the hardest part but eventually, if you put enough effort into it, you get used to it.

>>127426967
This. Im fluent in all of these languages and it is worth it. Gonna learn French next so I can speak to black people in their native tongue.

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>>127427842
Am not Chinese, just a fan. I'm from Florida, the Australia of America.

>>127427993
Russians speak English as second language but if you really wanted you could tack it on after French.

All non English speaking countries teach English as a second language except shit tier African and Muslim countries.

>>127428081
CHINKS MUST DIE

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>>127427912
Arabic sounds like it would be no fun though. All those Arabic speaking countries suck, religion will never let you be accepted.
>>127428120
No you.

>>127427605
Speaking and listening will pretty much just be like any other language. But it's not known as the hardest language for no reason. Writing and reading will be extremely difficult as you will need to just brute force memorize each character.

>>127428081
Suuuuuuuuuuuuure, Max Chen.

>>127428118
Hm, Arabic seems hot at the moment indeed.

>people saying to learn Chinese

You can spend your life and you will never be able to match a native Chinese speaker and learn the thousands of characters Unless you become a fucking professor and dedicate your life to it. Not to mention the tones and shit. Even after that, one of the only relevant cities, Shanghai, also just has Shanghainese which will render your efforts at mandarin somewhat pointless. Not to mention Hong Kong speaks cantonese.

also
>actually wanting to deal with chinese thieves and hagglers
fucks sake you people dont know what you are getting into

>>127427457
Han supremacist Singaporean poster? Maybe fuck him, it's between slap and hug

>>127428193
The only reason to learn a second language is business, Arabs have money. Knowing Arabic gives you an in for expat work for cunts with money.

>>127428193
Lots of work opportunities in the public and private sector. Really depends on what you want. And yes, the problem with learning Arabic is that you will talk to Arabs, and if you learn Chinese, you will talk to Chinese, etc. Goddamn foreigners.

>does a Mandarin minor for my major in college
>requires multiple classes to be taught in Mandarin
>requires me to go to Beijing for 1 summer
>when in Beijing, quickly realize literally almost everyone speaks broken English

Not really worth learning after I learnt that last part.

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>>127428193
BOMB NORTH KOREA

>>127426476

English
English
English

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>>127428246
Believe what you want. I'm from Palmetto Bay in Miami-Dade County. Not sure how I could prove I'm not Chinese to you.
>>127427457
Don't you guys basically sell out your Asian roots just to appeal to international business? I'd slap him for forcing you to kiss foreigner's asses for money.

>>127426476
English

>>127427867
tl;dr the problem with learning Chinese is that you have to deal with the Chinese.

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>>127428431
If you want to bomb NK, China's the only one that will let you, and judging by how NK has been treating their Chinese betters recently, that might be soon.

>>127428470
China's sticking to their asian roots didn't work out for them when they got stream rolled by the japs who had Westernized and industrialized though.

>>127428470
Sometimes I wonder. We have no culture but we hang on to traditions. We still have chinese weddings, chinese new year, in primary schools we dress up in chinese pao and all for one day a year.

And yeah I actually really hate the government. They like foreigners more than locals (not just whites, prc and brunei people as well) cause of cash.

>>127428276
>his anus will hug my dick as it slaps him from behind
Gay4presidente

Why the fuck would I learn another language?
All inferior races must learn my language just to get to my level as a child.
Nobody cares about any of your nigger languages, not unless they are millenial scum who want to work as bar tenders as they travel from one instagram post to the next.
Or whatever the fuck that dirt poor generation of aging childless gypsies is doing to impress one another nowadays.

>>127428470
Wang please, Singapore is a country located in SEA near the equator. It's not the traditional Chinese territories or sino circle. They, in a essence, are the immigrants to Malaysia. The muh roots talk is silly.

>>127428656
I used to love foreign languages but I came to despise the people who spoke them natively. Now my interests lie elsewhere.

>millenial scum who want to work as bar tenders as they travel from one instagram post to the next
The poorer the country, the truer this gets.

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>>127428555
China is adopting some Western stuff right now without selling out their Asian roots and their currently scaring the socks off of everyone in Asia, Japan included. Now Japs are under the boot of American military and servicemen can rape as many Jap girls as they want, the government can't do anything.
>>127428650
On the one hand Singapore does well economically, but your government has sold your old culture out for foreigners. I'd say PRC government is doing better on that regard, since China is essentially still Chinese.
>>127428724
>Selling out your roots for money
Of course a Taiwanese would be thinking that way... And also I'm not Chinese.

So it seems Mandarin is gonna be too difficult. Maybe Korean is worth looking into. I'm wanting to learn a new language for my work and new job opportunities. My higher ups say Mandarin, Japanese, Arabic, Korean, or French is what's recommended.

>>127426807
>french

hai mars in spre mortii ma-tii

>>127428840
Surrrrre Cheng. I'm not a Taiwanese as well, just visiting.

>>127428840
The Cultural Revolution was all about tearing up the asian roots, including butchering their writing system. They've been M A R X E D.

>>127428724
A lot of the people came here from hongkong/taiwan and other southern china states. I assume by roots he meant whatever the immigrants brought with them. Many of the hainanese and all made their children learn other languages like cantonese or English because their community was too small so people like myself dont know any hainanese.

>>127428840
Well, we, unfortunately, bend backwards for minorities. Every fucking restaurant is halal and one time the muslims managed to get decorations in chinatown taken down because it was year of the pig. Fucks sakes.

>>127428656
Because you want to make money? All of you tards screaming English hurrr duhrrr just don't seem to have ambition. 200 years from now learning other languages will be moot since we will all speak Spanish, but until then it's worth doing for many careers.

>>127428840
>China is adopting some Western stuff right now without selling out their Asian roots

Bait ? China literally burnt its own culture during the last century, the only chinese place where chinese culture still lives is in Taiwan, mainland china is basically a hive of humanoid creature with an insectoid behavior.

>>127427148
He's just retarded, learning the alphabet is the hard part. I know people who's first language is mandarin and they claim to not even know all the characters. Speaking it isn't too hard, I learned a lot of conversational Chinese in like 3 weeks before a trip. I couldn't read a lick of it but I wasn't a lone on my trip so it didn't matter.

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What are the most important languages? That depends where you're at and what field you're working in. For an American, it's probably Spanish since that's what all South American countries speak plus if you learn it, you probably can guess 90% of Brazilian Portuguese as well.

In Europe, it would be English, French and German.

Chinese - is that worth learning when dealing with 20 cent junk items wholesale and they are going to rip you off anyway? I think not.

Arabic - not worth learning either, since THEY want to sell their oil to us. Except maybe when you consider intelligence work, then definitely Arabic and Persian.

>>127428350
>Study Mandarin
>Go to Beijing
>Ask how much some bananas are
>Lady tells me "errr rrrra rrra errr arr"
>I reply "san quai yi jin, dui ma?"
>She replies "doy saa querrrr"

The fuck is wrong with that city. I remember being on the bus and the ticket lady said something that I swear was just "arr arr arr." Also food in Beijing sucks, pollution sucks, winters such because of that fucking wind, summer has sandstorms, people are rude as fuck and they have the ugliest girls in all of China. If you want to visit go to Shenzhen, Shanghai, Xi'an, anywhere but Beijing...

Also bullshit on people speaking broken English. Don't know where you were but the only English I'd hear was the damn tuk tuk drivers and pamphlet people saying "hello" and bothering me.

>>127426476
Stop posting

>>127429037
Your ancestors were from "international traveling island" aka Gain an island? Talk about upgrading.
I meant, bring your culture with you while immigrating is a sure thing but saying Singapore itself should be minor south China is stupid. And of course your government will bend over for islam and minor, your country is simply surrounded by Islamic Malays and quite close to India. It's a should not a could.

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>>127428960
Tell me how to prove I'm not a Chinese and I'll attempt to do so.
>>127428997
The Cultural Revolution was fucking forty years ago. Isn't there a statute of limitations on shit like this? Sure it was destructive towards Chinese culture, but it didn't destroy all of Chinese culture, which is an accumulation of thousands of years of history.
>>127429230
Well that's just like, your opinion, man.
>>127429037
I guess that's the problem with minorities, especially Muslims. I've heard that Singapore is an "artificial country" where a bunch of different ethnicities are forced to live together.
Meanwhile PRC doesn't take shit from Uyghurs or Chinese Muslims.

There is no useful language to learn for a native English speaker. It's all based on your career goals and personal goals. Not even the Chinese wants to replace English with Mandarin as the lengua franca. Mandarin is very impractical to learn as a second language -- English is actually easier.

For an Amerifat, I would suggest you definitely learn Spanish though. The hispanophone is steadily increasing, and it will one day include America itself. By 2050, half the population will be of Hispanic descent. We're probably headed towards a Canada situation, where the second official language will be Spanish.

>>127429230
>>127428997

>China literally burnt its own culture during the last century

You greatly overestimate how successful the cultural revolution was.

>>127429509
Dude stop falling for the bait. No one really cares if you're Chinese or not. It doesn't matter. This is /pol/ where we are all super badass alpha males.

>>127427745
Ah nice, I was looking for that image

>>127427459
This, dealing with Chinese tourists is a fucking nightmare.

>>127429509
Post your jew mutilated white dick then.

>>127428193

You could learn Arabic for the purpose of eavesdropping - they're always chatting shit about people sitting near them on buses in Londonistan

>>127428309

They have money but they're still tight as fuck. My dad had to do business with some of these rich mudslimes, they're always trying to get something for free

>>127429508
Just my father's side was hainan. My mother's side was from guangdong so I'm a chinese cocktail lmao. I got teochew/cantonese/hainan blood

>>127429509
Well, kind of. But thats also a perk, I get to have indian/malay food whenever because its really common. A lot of the indians and malays here run shops so even our local food is kind of a fusion thing

>>127430210
Do you have good Chinese food in SIngapore?

>>127426476
English/spanish, french, german, italian. In that order, if you learn any other language and you aren't a professional translator or a languages freak, you will lose a lot of your time to learn something barely useful.

>inb4 what about chinese

Unless you are native or bilingual you will never learn enough of it, and there is already a lot of competence. How many ching chongs already know either a second or even a third language? Plus you can have a B2 level on almost every european language on 2-4 years. For chinese or arabic you'll need a lot more.

>>127430210
Do you think I can go to Singapore if I have criminal records in my country?

>>127430682
What did you do? Human trafficking future rocket scientists into Italy?

>>127430312
Fairly good, things like kway teow or fried carrotcake are the food I normally eat. There's also hokkien mee, chicken rice for local food. If you mean extremely chinese like egg wisp soup or something its a bit hard to find, those kind of food are normally offered by hotels for weddings.

>>127430682
At this point I wouldn't be surprised. I don't if they factor in felonies into immigration but we joke about how they let in foreigners indiscriminately to vote for our ruling political party. Nearly a quarter of my class in secondary school were foreigners/children of foreigners. I used to have chinese-italian, chinese-canadian friends.

>>127430826
I fought against antifa and one of them got in serious injuries. Lol

>>127429698
Been in Venice yesterday, 80% eere chinese tourist, they are like a plague and use to react angry when someone pass by when they are taking pictures...

>>127430839
Well, I used to live in Guangzhou but at least in major cities of China I know criminal records can be problematic to get a visa

>>127430969
Actually I live in Venice. The shittiest city of Italy, I hate it. I confirm what you say.

>>127427148
>>127427868
eh not really. I learnt Japanese for 5 years at school, although, after the first 3 years I could only really talk about the weather etc. Last two years were when I learnt 95% of what i know now. I'm basically at a conversational level but intend to study in Japan for a few months as living in the country that speaks the language you are studying is the best way to learn.

>>127427457
Youre disgusting. Im glad to have picked up mandarin since young. Its the kind of language which is inpossible to learn as an adult. Enjoy being a monolingual baboon. You bring shame on famiry.

>>127430940
Reverse Eric Clanton? Why do you want to go to Singapore?

>>127431170
I can speak Chinese you nigger, I just think forcing it into our PSLE and O level made exams hell for most of us. Fucking higher chinese classes were literally all people from china so they all scored better than us.

>>127431177
I'm looking for a good university, actually I was looking for taibei as well

>>127431108
Venezia is fine. It even rejects kebab stores to sell in the city centre. How many cities have guts to do this in Europe? It's a tourists city indeed but a beautiful one nonetheless.

>>127431351
Taipei is quite shit though. You should consider Singapore and HK at first then perhaps some great universities in Beijing and Shanghai.

>>127431429
Yes but it is like Disneyland. In Venice there are maybe 50.000 habitants. 20 years ago they were 200000. Everyone is leaving, no more tradition no more people, just stupid tourists... I prefer much more Rome, Florence and Naples.

>>127431518
Really? Actually I was hoping Taipei could be better than China... anyway i am checking 浙大 in hangzhou... it seems quite good

>>127431610
Florence is beautiful, with the bridges and rivers.

>>127431721
People in taipei speak hokkien and use traditional Chinese characters. It might be hard to understand, and the hokkien is pretty forceful language

>>127431610
Firenze is simply one of the best all Europe and Roma is the capital city though, can't really compared with tiny Venezia. How is Italy doing lately though? Economic wise.

>>127426476
English, Mandarin mb Spanish.

>>127431816
>People in taipei speak hokkien
Not really though. It's more of a thing in southern part of Taiwan.

>>127431816
Yes Italy is beautiful we have a great history and this makes me angry because everything is going to be fucked up due to leftists

>>127431721
I'd suggest you go to Singapore and HK first if you had the privilege to choose. Hanzhou is a great and huge city with lovely sights so it might be a good pick.

>>127432003
Fuck off you FOB kindergarten English teacheing dork, Hakka is spoken in Northwestern Taiwan. Fujian-hua is mostly spoken down south. In any case, everyone will understand you if you speak Mandarin (sans the aged 65+ crowd)

>>127431874
Let's say Italy is better than Germany, Sweden and so on... I mean, they are richer than us but still, if a nigger raped a girl we would kill him. In Germany the next day people would organize an antiracist parade... however we are.getting into serious problems because of refugees and our economy is dying because of EU

>>127432264
LOL, THIS MAD. How is legalizing gay marriage treating you?

>>127432264
Yes, just like in guangdong. They speak cantonese but everyone understood me when I spoke in putonghua

>>127432364
I'm right though? You're just someone who travels the world speaking English and spreading disinformation about wherever you travel too, you probably think you're so "cultured" too. Hedonistic loser.

>>127432364
Most of the people are against it but mondialist propaganda is fucking strong. I think one day they'll make it. However in Italy there is a fucking good movement called Casapound, it is the last hope for us to save our country

>>127432276
Hmm, sounds just like every other ageing society with debt problem to me. I believe Italy(at least northern part) is still one of the best place to live in the world. Perfect food and weather.

>>127432377
They're not just speaking Cantonese in Guangdong, they've got a LOT of dialects down there. When I first came to China for work it confused the fuck out of me.

>>127432487
Nothing I've said is wrong. You are just mad without any valid reason. HOKKIEN is indeed not widely spoken in Taipei, why denying the simple truth.

>>127428068
>Gonna learn French next so I can speak to black people in their native tongue.
Kek

>>127432680
>>127432003
>Not really though. It's more of a thing in southern part of Taiwan.

Just go back to Reddi/t.

>>127432536
I thought Italy already legalized gay marriage,no? That's not very progressive of you. But I was talking about recent event in Taiwan about legalizing gay marriage not Italy.

>>127432547
Actually I prefer the south than the north. Food is great and it is really beautiful... just try to type on Google cala goloritzè, tropea, otranto, lecce and so on... you will understand what I am talking about...
Anyway yes I agree with you, it is an old country and it is difficult to react to the various problems

>>127432752
No, Mad Taiwan greeny froggie is too entertaining to miss.

>>127426657
Only produce religious text.
Static since 500.
This is the least useful language, only fit for sub85 "people".

>>127432866
They legalized it but still it is very ambiguous... it seems they did it to make happy both the Jews bot the people

>>127426476
>1 post by this ID
>>>/int/

>>127432961
Actually, I'm an American. You kindy-teaching folk are like the plague, I just wish you would go back to Redd/it because you're not just useless but worse.

>>127432904
You are right. I just googled those placed and the Mediterranean part of Italy with gorgeous beaches and cliffs and beautiful seaside towns are heaven on earth. Hope rapefugees, I mean African doctors, won't ruin them.

>>127426476
English and maybe Spanish. Mandarin ain't worth shit.

>>127433284
How about you go back to niggerish burger land first?

>>127426476
Chinese is not that important because the Chinese will simply learn English, not the other way around.

If you really want to learn a foreign language that are both somewhat important and relatively simple to learn I would learn one of these (in no particular order):

1. German
2. Italian
3. Spanish
4. French

>>127433527
You're the one dancing to Bingo, buddy.

>>127433389
Actually the good stuff about the south is that rapefugees are just a few. Not like the north unfortunately

French obviously. We are going to be a super power in 2050

>>127426476

As a linguist speaking five foreign languages fluently, I confirm that mastering (and then maintaining) a language is the most ungrateful, most unrewarding thing ever.

It only helps if you go to your chosen country and use their language as a native. It opens doors closed to other foreigners, and makes an experience of living abroad more worthwhile. That is how you decide on the importance of a language. But even then those people around you will most likely take it for granted that you speak their language like one of them.

But if you study a language with a hope a foreign company will hire you to work for them, then, it is just completely retarded, because they will hire their very qualified own anyways.

An ideal outcome is when you master a language of your choice and then can take advantage of people who speak it for your own benefit.

>>127433552
I was thinking about learning german the other day, is it really that easy to learn? And aren't most Germans under 40 speak passable to fluent English already? Isn't it just like the case of China?

>>127433823
Well it all depends on what language you speak. English is very easy for Germans because they are both Germanic languages so they have quite some things in common. This means Germans will have an easier time learning it than say Spanish people for example. For me German is easy because I speak Dutch and they are both Germanic languages and have a lot in common. If you are fluent in English then German will be a bit of a challenge in the beginning but you will get used to it eventually.

>>127430097
I studied Bengali and Farsi (and speak a little Arabic) and people chat shit so much if they think no one can understand them. France and Italy are the worst for it though. I was on a train in France with my sisters and two French guys were openly talking about them. Had to tell them to shut the fuck up. Italians at my old workplace used to talk shit all the time in Italian.

In order of economic utility:
>English
>Mandarin
>Arabic
>Japanese
>Spanish
>Russian
>French
>German

Those are really the only widely spoken ones with a lot of job opportunities going, although if you learn an obscure language the niche is very useful (I've had a lot of job offers based on Farsi/Kurdish proficiency).

Cultural importance:
>English
>French
>German
>Russian
>Greek
>other European languages/Farsi
>Japanese

>>127433759
Here's a breakdown of my languages:

Russian: Native, still use it with friends, for inner thinking, for derivation of ethnic identity, otherwise probably useless?
English: Crucial.
German: Use it to get around in the environment, otherwise useless. However, I will have need for it for a long time still.
Japanese: I use it for the consumption of Japanese popular culture, otherwise it is useless. However, the consumption thing is worth it alone.

Overall, these languages outside of English are all plausibly useless including Japanese, as everything of note gets translated. Two are circumstantially required. Such is the modern reality.

>>127434885
German is useless in Deutschland?

>>127434885
>German
>useless
Please elaborate. I don't want to learn that I learned those fucking der, die, das, den, dem, des, etc.. for nothing

>>127435318
No, but it would be useless outside of it, unless you want to read their philosophers specifically in German. The only reason I truly need German is because I work here. I like the language a lot though, and I wish it had more non-meme international prominence, but I'm being realistic.

>>127435378
Read above.

>>127434885

I've spent 7 years in Japan and the working knowledge of Japanese is absolutely imperative there. Plus, my experiences of Japan were considerably better compared to other English speakers who were mostly confined to their own group of English speakers only.

>>127435622
To clarify, German is actually highly useful in Germany for all aspects of life, unless you are a turboautist and avoid talking to people as much as humanly possible. A surprising amount of people either speak very little English or are uncomfortable with it, and the locals will absolutely prefer to use German with each other at every opportunity, so you'll be left out of most conversations.

>>127436333
Not saying languages are useless within their home countries, but without, you should evaluate very carefully; even so I have use for all my four languages.