Was Australia too harsh a place for these people to progress

>>127422018
Nope.

>>127422018
Didn't Australia use to be lush forests and shit until the abos burned everything down while hunting?

if anything harsh environments force progression since all the physically and mentally weak members of the tribe simply fucking die before they can reproduce and pass on their shitty genes and behaviors

>>127422018
>no technology
Try again sweatie they knew more about tides than Galileo
http://theconversation.com/aboriginal-people-how-to-misunderstand-their-science-23835

Is it still legal to shoot abos in australia?

>>127422235
Yes

>>127422473

Nah, they brought in animal cruelty laws a few years ago

>>127422281
but if there's a lack of natural resources wouldn't that hinder progression regardless?

>>127422018
>Britain 19th century
>Love to conquer shit
>Big ass piece of land
>Absolutely no defense

Set the sails, lads!

>>127422018
missing selection pressure for higher intelligence. if you don't need it it's a literal waste of metabolic energy to create, maintain and use.

>>127422018
>blue eyes
Wow, get a load of this snownigger

>>127422018
Their civ had - and still does have, to an extent - structure. In large areas, the environment was harsh, best suited to the lifestyle they developed to exploit it.

>>127422843
There wasn't, they did destroy many of the resources though, the British managed to settle and work with less to build more anyway.

>>127422235
>>127422592
Really? I'm pretty that's not true.
Wasn't it always a shithole (apart from coast) and the firefarming actually replenished the scrublands?

>>127422018
No it could have been done in a hundred years the english proved it.

>>127422235
yes. it will grow back with a 2C temperature rise due to higher summer humidity and more northerly polar fronts during winter.

>>127422843
like what? they had trees that grow up in straight lines and don't stop until they catch fire. highly flammable, highly workable hardwood trees. they had SO MANY ANIMALS stupid fluffy shits are everywhere. they had fruits and nuts and mushrooms and fish etc etc etc

it's sad we killed off the more civilised ones and left the sand-raiders alive. the places with resources had healthy happy people, no worse than the rest of the undeveloped world.

>>127422235
No. Fires set to flush prey were never lit in the middle of summer (duh) but when the grass was still moist enough to not go out of control. And after burning, fresh shoots made better forage for plant eaters than before: win-win.

>>127423230
Those are eyes?????

>>127422018
yes. similar to many tropical/desert areas in africa and south america

>>127422473
About the same as Canuks shooting Eskimo.

>>127423230
>all my natives are asians so I don't know about genetic variability

they were selecting for blond hair and blue eyes back when scandinavia was still an ice-cap.

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>>127422344
>try again sweatie
>sweatie

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>>127422843
They have survived here and spread across almost the entirety of some of the hardest places to live on the planet. For over 40,000 years. What definition of progression do you want to use, inventing the steam engine? No, they didn't do that, but neither did our Cro-Magnon forebears. Technology needed many things to support it in Europe, Asia, America, and the ability to travel and share ideas was not the least of those. Not applicable in Aus, as you well know.

>>127422344
my favourite research is the one showing how the "internal compass" of aboriginal languages uses about 30% more brainpower than speaking a language with words "left" and "right", parts of the brain an english speaker would use for memories, ideas, planning. is just a fucking COMPASS.

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>>127422018
Imagine this motherfucker, if you were an abo, youd be burning shit to the ground to keep this thing away

>>127423218
You think it didn't take intelligence to survive in Australia, pre-colonisation? Ha ha ha! Foodstuff available in different places at different times, navigating by landmarks & stars, learning Dreamtime song-lines, finding water, tracking animals, art, war, culture... come on, get real.

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>>127423338

You're not THAT pretty.

>>127423359
They also proved that a colony could very nearly starve to death without support from home.

>>127423790
Nope, you'd track it from far off, and kill it when it slowed down at night as its body-temp fell.

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>>127424042
This, abos are some pretty smart apes.

>>127423913
Aboriginals lied to the invaders, told them to eat poisoned mushrooms, raw ferns, etc etc. Maybe just maybe they had a lower population density, something closer to CARRYING CAPACITY. Fuck this city shit I need a farm.

>>127424042
I doubt its body temperature would fall far. humans are better endurance runners than any other animal, I say they chased them directly.

>>127424042
Not before it does the same exact thing to your tribe

>>127422018
They did enough to survive and never wanted more than that. Most still don't want more than that. Can't hate people for enjoying what they have or for not wanting to change things.

>>127423673
>They have survived here and spread across almost the entirety of some of the hardest places to live on the planet.
They subsisted, but they never bettered their lot.

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>>127422235
Then again there were these fuckers around (pic).

Also running crocodiles m8.

I'm sure even our ancestors would have decided to burn shit just down. Although I think our ancestors were smart enough to realize you don't have to remain on a burnt down land and would have just moved on.

>>127423673
Inventing the steam engine? No

Inventing the fucking wheel? Yes

>>127422018
Exactly the opposite in fact. Life was so abundant and simple that there was never any requirement for advanced agrarian society to develop in order for abos to survive.

Australia may be a large desert in the center, but the amount of green, arable coast line is bigger than the whole United Kingdom area combined. Plus northern territory jungle.

At worst, the coastal aboriginals should have advanced into a basic civilization like you see all around the world, dominating their in-land neighbors.

The lack of progress after 50,000 years in all the right conditions is pathetic.

No concept of linear time was probably also a factor.

>>127422018
To all you racists out there thinking Europeans and Asians were so great because they had cities and technology when the rest of the world didn't, watch this video and explain what abos could have done better before the white man discovered them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOmjnioNulo

>>127426839
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEYh5WACqEk&
I posted part 2 by accident this is part 1

>>127426839
Tl;dw, but i'm guessing the summary is "theys wuz too lazy and/or stupid to try it."

>>127422018
Aboriginal porn gimme

>>127422018
t. jared diamond

>>127427151
>implying you are any better
>>127427271
Fucking pig jap disgusting there are no beautiful abos

>>127427326
>He never had pets
>He never befriended foxes
>He never practiced falconry

>>127422018
>Australia
>unforgiving

Literally has as much ariable land as Yurop, tropics and nice temperate climate >>127422018

>>127427326
It's not about beautiful it's about seeing a woman being degraded

Because they aren't human.
I'm not even memeing about the whole "LOL LE NIGGERS ARE MONKEYS XXXD" thing, I mean that abos are genuinely not the same species as caucasian humans.

Even the shitter parts of Africa had eclipsed the abos by the time Europeans reached Australia.
They slowly emerged from bushes and wilderness to interact with mankind, and to this day it is clear that true abos are not human.

Rapebabies exist, naturally, and exhibit the expected level of civility and intelligence.

But true abos, the missing-tooth black skin flat footed petrol-sniffing creatures are found nowhere else on the world. They are not allowed on planes, boats or any other transport leaving the country-and if they were, they couldn't afford it due to their traditions and beliefs preventing them from being useful.

Aboriginals are not human.

>>127425977
This. If you live life in easy mode then there's no selection pressure for smarter more productive people, fitness becomes all about who can shag the most.

Harsh environments made us who we are by culling those who couldn't hack it.

>>127422018
what about the civilisation in Australia before the abos

In that one humans lived alongside megafauna and actually harnessed them. Also, Australia was covered in lush jungles and these peoples lived predominately in a large network of treehouses. All remnants of their civilisation was destroyed by the fires that destroyed the forests.

>>127427464
I also never had sex

Hate fact no. 451: people are not equal

>>127427576
I think life degrades them more than any amount of rutting could.

>>127427679
But you'd still be capable of doing it, no matter what Jared Diamond says.

>>127427590
The only time I ever see one is when ABC runs another doco trying to claim they're oppressed.

>>127424385
But you can hate them for expecting others to pay for it and ruining every national holiday

>>127422018
some places like new south wales, queensland and victoria were similar to europe and very suitable for development (hence their name)
other places were shitty deserts
all in all abos were simply too low IQ to do anything. there were normal IQ abos (like simon wonga) but not enough to create a crop yielding, proper civilisation instead of permaculture farmer tribes.

>>127427610
>who can shag the most
Then why are they all so fucking ugly

>>127427464
>implying any animal native to australia will work as a pet or be usefull in any way to create an advanced society
>>127427576
rape and degradation doesn't exist in abo culture. the horny men take women as they please

>>127422018
>people

>>127422688
stupid referendum
also checked

>>127423367
>falling for the burning everything in sight is a good way to farm meme

>>127427973
And even more perplexing is that they bitch and moan about money not being thrown at their desert enclave towns, when it's their lifestyle choice to live there because "that's where/how their people have always lived." Which, makes one wonder why they need money from Canberra for it.

>>127428152
See? Lazy. We have native dogs and falcons. Both could have been tamed for hunting. We lack beasts of burden now, but they could have domesticated something to eat regularly. Or before they killed off those giant wombat things, attached plows to them.

>>127422018
I never understood why the Polynesians never colonised Australia themselves,l they made it to new zealand and I doubt the Aboriginals could have fought them when they invaded so why didn't the other regions inhabitants end up replacing them completely?

To clarify, I'm not saying abos are not inferior to us jews, because they are; I'm saying we shouldn't blame them for being the way they are and always have been, and that we should breed them with white women in order to preserve genes that may be important in the future.
>>127428310
how exactly do you propose to befriend and tame a fox or falcon?

>>127428591
>he thinks foxes are dogs and were native to the country

>>127422018
they were all too nomadic - although some had begun to form structured lives along the east coast

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>>127427844
Have you never worked in an inner city shop? You'll see whole packs of em, all from one family clearly, but you'll hear them first. Shouting in their revolting language, seven or eight kids running around them destroying displays and climbing on top of things.

>>127422018
Aboriginal's hit turn 350 in Civ VI without pottery, roads or the wheel. Brits went for an easy conquest win but unfortunately abo's have leadership trait: Be a fucking burden forever.

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Abodiginal was the first noonga on the moon
My ancestors found a giant cockatoo in the billabong and rode to the moon.
Theres no air in space so black fella breathe petrol instead.
Black fella owned all the petrol trees once, then the racist white kunts took em
Then the racist white dog took the petrol and put it in his space boong and black fella have nothing to breathe

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>>127428152
Have you never heard of an Emu farm?

>>127422018
No it was the ritual inbreeding. Google Whistle Cocking.

Do any White Aussies race mix with Abbos?

>>127428714
I think>>127428310 was referring to dingos. But my point stands. You can't domesticate an animal without supplying it with a food source. So you run into a problem of circular reasoning where you need the dingo to hunt game, but you need to be able to hunt game without the dingo in order to domesticate it. Also the giant wombats are just speculation, and there is no proof that abos were responsible for their extinction.
>>127429109
How would you start an emu farm without a domesticated dog to capture the emus? Emus sprint at 50kmph.
>>127429358
hopefully

>>127429358
Cant get close enough because of the smell

I guess some animals just can't be figured out, even by the great white man. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dingo#As_a_pet

>>127424185
Original colonists were super retarded. They sent the most random people here, none with any survival skills. Those in charge were just as bad and easily fooled. Those fresh off the boat were made to do the most pointless hard labour but the smart ones caught on and said they were botanists and what not.

One of the better examples of how retarded they were was how they lost all their cattle early on. Then they setup up an expedition to go through the mountains a couple years later, they lost a couple men and found the cattle on perfect grazing fields. Turns out the cattle just walked around the mountain.

>>127422018
I'd give her one.

>>127430108
I've seen British women.
Not much of an endorsement

>>127428591
>how exactly do you propose to befriend and tame a fox or falcon?
Same way we've always done: Feed it. Then feed it's offspring. Keep doing that until one lets you hold it, and then start teaching it tricks for food.

>>127429358
White ones? Nope. Bestiality is illegal.

>>127429471
>So you run into a problem of circular reasoning where you need the dingo to hunt game, but you need to be able to hunt game without the dingo in order to domesticate it.
Of course you can hunt without it. But how do you think wolves were first domesticated? They were given small amounts to begin with. Then they could all get more with teamwork.

>>127422235
Not so much lush, but less dessertified sure. Trees shade the ground and reducesoil moisture evaporation. Burn them off repeatedly and you re gonna expect changes.

aboriginals, like many other pacific cultures practiced the act of raping little boys in the process of "making them a man" they didnt have anything worth saving

>>127434099
Which is why we really ought to focus on terraforming the place.

>>127422018
the opposite. it was so plentiful that there was no need to develop agriculture

>>127423338
>falling for the firefarming meme

>>127429358
are Irish people white?

Then yes

>>127422018

White people stole their inventions an sheet and then covered it up and made them live like stone age people. If it wasnt for the system of white supremacy holding them down these people would be doctors, lawyers, rocket scientists and brain surgeons.

Race is a social construct.