Is worshiping space (Atheism), idolatry?
>>127319411
Who cares? It's your right to worship whatever you please. This isn't Pakistan.
>>127319411
Worshipping space is not atheism
It's space worship
>>127320131
What's the difference?
>>127320919
Atheism is not worshipping anything
Space worship is worshipping space like some cultist
>>127321140
Atheist choose to worship idols that will be obsolete in 100 years
>>127321262
Money? Yeah, but by definition it's someone with no belief in Gods
Atheists as people place their trust on other material possessions to make up for it, it's true, but a space worshipper would be like some cultist
>>127321140
>Atheism is not worshipping anything
I still don't see the difference.
By their very lack of faith in the divine, atheists place their faith in the material.
It's science worship. Astronomy, as a field of science, is the Church of Space.
ALL HAIL THE COSMOS
>>127319411
Hail Science. Because Science is REAL. Science TALKS to me every day
Wheres your god, i've seen to top side of clouds when on airplane LMAO BTFO'd now what?
>>127321686
OR SOME SAY, COSM
>>127321607
I know
you could say that, given 'settled science' and other bullshit, but worshipping an institution dedicated on the thing is not the same as worshipping the thing itself
>>127321262
>Atheist
>Worship
Do you even know how Atheism works you retarded nigger?
>>127321607
I mean worshipping Christ and worshipping a church and its priests are completely different things don't you think?
>>127319411
Worshiping anything is pointless, nothing is listening, and if it is, it doesn't care.
>>127319642
Hell is for ever!
>>127319411
>God creates Universe (Big Bang)
>God designs all the mechanics of the universe including evolution
>God designed evolution therefor life happens according to his plan and design (re: Bible)
>Genesis describes a vast period of time in which God designed the universe, but also his focus on Earth (probably one of many)
>Mankind comes about because of his design
>He picks his two favorites, Adam and Eve, who promptly piss him off
>This solves the issue of who did Cain and Abel marry? Their sisters? Perhaps other non-chosen humans?
>Adam and Eve is the story of the first Chosen People, Re: Jews, not the first humans
Problem solved.
>>127321920
u mad
cosmology idolatry
>>127321607
Bullshit. Scientist don't place their faith, they operate on facts.
>>127322112
My uncle tried to convince me on similar terms, he told me: i"f there was a god he wouldn't care about us like we don't care about ants"
i said i care about ants very much and that was the end of discussion...
>>127322192
No, i just clearly see you are retarded enough to put worship and atheist in the same sentence
>>127321999
In practice only, not in principle.
The word of Science which Atheism accepts on Faith alone is the foundation of their entire worldview.
Their Atheism is predicated upon it.
>>127322325
>he doesn't kniw the definition if atheism
>>127322283
umm try again, sweetie
Scientist propose a hypothesis which is based on faith and then they either confirm or deny it based on data collected on the subject
>>127322330
Why? Are you saying God is not powerful enough to design an infinite universe that functions smoothly? That God can't design the most complex machine ever? That all God can do is an infantile single planet and some formless lights in the heaven?
What is more telling of the Power and the Glory of Jesus our Lord?
A: Can only make one planet and some stuff in the sky to look pretty
B: Can design, create, and direct the intricate functions of an entire universe, of which we are just a part?
>>127322349
Sure but what is meant here as 'space'?
If OP means the material 'universe' then I agree
If he meant the worship of nebulas or galaxies in some ritualistic fashion then that is worship and thus not atheism
>>127322454
Lack of belief in any spiritual entity, try again
Atheists worship nothing at all unlike the cucks who worship a pedophile, a jew or either a mad man
>>127319411
Yes, it is. People treat science like a cult today, instead of the methodology it is. Science is about questioning everything, including our most basic theories. In reality, there is no such thing as "settled science", since everything is supposed to be questioned. But these 'science' cultists don't want you to question certain things because they're a fucking cult.
>>127322311
Human beings have much of the cosmos dead to rights in outright intricacy. Our brains are real testaments to biological convolution and we've got a pretty good monopoly on sentient spontaneous action for at least several light years around it looks like
Point being that ants can be tremendously interesting. That was a poor position for your uncle to take and I earnestly believe that a higher deity as we might perceive it would be drawn to consciousness like a fly to shit. Things underlay the human brain that we get cannot hope to grasp.
>>127319411
>god is everything
>the universe is everything
>god = universe
The only question is if there is a "universal mind" (gods consciousness) or not.
Look up pandeism, pantheism, panentheis (i allways confuse them).
>>127322179
The Chosen People descend from Abraham. That's how they got chosen.
Original sin is universal. A&E have to be the first humans.
And oh yeah God killed all humans and land animals except those on the Ark within the last few thousand years.
This is all unchangeable, basic Christianity. Hell, the Gospels even trace Jesus's genealogy back to Adam twice.
It's just not true, get over it. Aristotle might still be right about there get a God, but the Jewble is baloney.
>>127322712
>If he meant the worship of nebulas or galaxies in some ritualistic fashion then that is worship and thus not atheism
Does the watching of The Cosmos, The Universe, etc count?
>>127322933
*there being a God
>>127322933
prove it out of any doubts then.... I'll be waiting, no religious/dogmatic text can be a proof y'know?
>>127319411
Their idol is academic dogma, Bacons idola theatri. In Christianity we can approach God but if you are arrogant enough to actually think you know God/truth you can be sure you have just constructed an idol and your arrogance will be punished when reality doesn't act as you thought it would.
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>>127322745
DonĀ“t forget the flying spagetti monster
>>127319411
Probably according to fucking idiots like you.
>>127323046
...did you not get to the end of my post?
My point was that all the absurd unbelievable historical stuff in the Bible is part of Xianity. It can't be harmonized with what we know about history, biology, geology. "Two books," my ass
>>127322903
Well there has to be a conscious creator for something
A robot painter needs a programmer to paint
The question is why should there be a universe at all if God is omniscient?
A) God is in necessity of something that only material beings can possess
B) this universe is simply a thought and everything here is a projection straight from his mind
C)??
>>127322933
>>127323046
Bible is fallible and focused on the origins of the Jews. We have history, written history, from before the Jews even had their Bible, mind you.
Adam and Eve trace their lineage directly to Jesus, as you just said. Jesus is described as the savior of the Jewish People in the Old Testament.
The Jews repeatably state Gentiles are not Humans. Therefor, Adam and Eve are the first "Humans" to exist - IE: the first Jews. The story of Torah's Messiah is the redemption of the Jewish people. Not mankind. Original sin therefor can be seen as "Originally pissing off God as A&E. Universal to all Jews."
I'm challenging and changing basic Christianity by stating; The Bible is Fallible in the sense you must read between the lines to see the real God. God is real, salvation is real, a portion of those stories are real (the rest Jew wankery or told out of scope, IE: flood.)
What I am harmonizing?
A: Universe is to complex not to have a designer, if the universe and proposed multiverse is this vast then somewhere some being qualifies as God, no?
B: There is no reason to doubt God did not create all the biology, chemistry, physics, and other functions of our universe. It makes perfect sense to have the original designer be God.
C: Story of Christ is true. Why? Because Christianity makes the most sense out of all existing religions. It just got Jew'd up a little. God realized the Jews were idiots and tried to rectify that by including all of humanity. All other religions conflict with this line of thought except perhaps Buddhism and Shintoism. Your free to name some others if you want... but original Judaism, Nordic beliefs, Egyptian, etc all conflict with the concept.