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Do jews, christians and muslims believe in the same God?

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Do jews, christians and muslims believe in the same God?
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>>127319127

Yes.
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>>127319127
No.
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>>127319127
Maybe
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>>127319425

>American
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>>127319127
Yes.
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>>127319127
Yes, but all have different interpretations of said god.
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Obviously no because they all believe God wants different things.
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>>127319127
I don't know,
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>>127319381
>>127319425
>>127319578
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>mfw Jesus was a Muslim prophet.
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>>127319127
There is only one God, you stupid fuck, you can depict it as pony if you like.
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perhaps
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>>127319127
Hell no! Goatfuckers worship a fucking rock and moon, their prophet was fucking little kids he was in his 50s Aisha was 9yrold see how sick that son of bitch was, HE'LL NO!
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>>127319865
R A R E
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>>127319381
>implying the other two believe in the trinity
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>>127319127
No, If you think Yes you're a atheshit shill trying to push a WE ALL BELEIEVE IN DA SAME GOD LETS NOT FIGHT retardation.

Jews believe in saturn/satan worship

Allah is literally taken from Pagan desert goatfucker religions.
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>>127319127
In an Islamic point of view, yes and no.
Yes in the way that Allah/God sent the Torah and inspired the Gospel (injil)
No in the way that Islam rejects Holy Trinity and Ezra as the son of God. In Islam God is God and nothing is with him. (At-Tawhid)
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>>127319127
i dont even believe in your country
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>>127320006
N E W
E
W
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>>127319127
Yes
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>>127320068
Are you a lion of Allah or a kitten of Jesus?
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>>127320030

Whether they do or not is irrelevant. The GOD you worship is the same.
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>>127320180
Komsija, kako ide? Jel' pocela priprema za sezonu?
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No, Jews claimed to be the original Christians and instated to apostate curch(what is now the vatican) to subvert Christianity before it even started.
the Islamic God is a different interpretation of the Jewish god(satan), but they hate the Jews so the main difference is their interpretation is mostly to outjew the jews
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>>127319127
>Three branches will become one.
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Lurk more son
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>>127320036
gaijin kun, are you chrisitian?
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>>127320427
It'd be perfect.
I think it already exists: Bahai's but they uncluded Hindushit in it. Astaghfirullah for the swearing
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>>127320304
>op doesn't understand the trininty
>points out that he doesnt understand the trinity
>replies showing again that he doesnt understand the trinity
k
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>>127320322
>Komsija, kako ide?
Odlicno
>Jel' pocela priprema za sezonu?
Naravno
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>>127319127
God doesn't exist
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>>127320036
Allah is the abrahamic God.
If you refer to the moon God and Baal they were all denied in the Quran.
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>>127320617
Give me proof that God doesn't exist
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>>127320607
Odlicno, samo naprijed. Dok je sranja na bliskom istoku, sezone ce nositi gomile shekela
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>>127320569

Your telling me Jews, Muslims and Christians each have their own God? Ahahahahahaha.
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>>127320715
>Dok je sranja na bliskom istoku, sezone ce nositi gomile shekela
Ipak smo drzava bez crnÄŤuga i arapa
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>>127319127

Yes, they worship the god of Abraham. However, there is a slight disagreement between the faiths as to the will and nature of God.
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Jews believe in Moloch.
Christians used to believe in God but were tricked into worshiping Judaism.
Muslims think they believe in God but are tricked into believing in Satan.
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>>127320836
>Ipak smo drzava bez crnÄŤuga i arapa
Nadajmo se da ce tako i ostati

>evropske kvote
kako cete se oduprijeti tome?
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>>127319381
>>127319635
>>127319654
>>127320180
>>127320884
>t. Atheists unable to understand the 'God' concept because it's for stupid people yet still aware that all Gods are the same because they're not stupid
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>>127320995
>kako?
Vratit ćemo pavelića
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>>127321155
top kek
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>>127319127

No.

Christians > Jesus is God
Jews > Jesus is burning in boiling excrement in hell
Muslims > Jesus is not God and anyone who says otherwise must die.
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>>127320735
jews and muslims worship satan
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>>127321497
Jesus is a false messiah to Jews?
>>127321520
Says the guy who worship a human
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The Jews worship Moloch the God of this world, and the Black Cube of Saturn, aka Time or the mind.

The Jews, like financial elite Jew, believes he is one of gods chosen people, with god being saturn, or lucifer as you will. Another name for it is moloch which means "all consuming power" or is a word for ritual child sacrifices. their king is called melech, since in the very old times there were no vocals it was written mlch just like moloch would indicating it is the same thing, meaning lucifer. They the Jew in order to controll us and get the antichrist risen through filling a symbolic cup with sin which will trigger his rising.

Not far too long ago it was well known that Jew do commit sacrificial murders.

Moloch is the god of the guilty. All consuming power.

They are literally sacrificing children to the Saturn Cube Moloch who control Time.

MOLOCH = BULL
MINERVA = OWL

The Owl is associated with Luciferianism because they are illuminated in their vision of the world covered in darkness. The light of Lucifer.
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>>127321497
This. The divinity of Christ and Muhammad as the last prophet make all three incompatible with each other.
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It's a bunch of different hiveminds trying to get followers by appealing to popular authority among a group with vague values generic beliefs.

>Allah is the Abrahamic god! You should listen to my sect and do what I tell you! If you don't then you aren't actually a believer of Abraham's god! Convert to Islam or die!

Oy vey you doity goy, don't you know you won't have anything in the woild to come if you don't follow the Noachide laws? You do believe in Abraham's god don't you? Then why aren't you following da laws we made up and pretend to have gotten from Noah?

You don't believe in my specific obscure Masonified sect of Christianity? Don't you know you will be left behind during the rapture and go to hell forever if you follow some other idolatrous sect?

>Not being any different from using a rubber stamp to appeal to authority to gain trust from outsiders and the spiritually confused
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>>127320735
Yeah. You're arguing this from an anthropological stand-point, which doesn't mean shit to anyone who actually believes the teachings of their religion.
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>>127319127

Since Christians believe in the trinity (God, Jesus, holy spirit), they don't actually believe in the same God. read >>127321497.

They share most of the history, but there are different interpretations, prophets and impostors.

Christianity was born from the resistance against the Roman invasion. Martyrdom, dealing with suffering, forgiveness and living with the enemy are major themes. Jesus often criticized the Elder's hypocrisy.

Islam has more in common to Marxism than other religions. A cultural framework to unite your conquests.
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This
This
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>>127321497
>>127320735
>>127320620
>>127320569
>>127319760
>>127319578
>>127319425
>>127319381

See
>>127321741
thank you for typing what I'm to lazy to say.
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>>127321678
The Jews fucking hate Jesus.

>>127321520
This
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Christians do not worship the same God as Jews and Muslims.

>"Then Jesus cried out in the temple, teaching and saying, "You both know Me and know where I am from; and I have not come of Myself, but He who sent Me is true, whom you do not know." - John 7:28

>"So they were saying to Him, "Where is Your Father?" Jesus answered, "You know neither Me nor My Father; if you knew Me, you would know My Father also." - John 8:19

>"Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and have come from God, for I have not even come on My own initiative, but He sent Me." - John 8:24

There is an exact ontological difference between the Christian, biblical idea of God (Trinity; three persons, one being) and the Jewish and Muslim notion (Unitarian Monotheism). The "WE ARE ALL ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS" and "JUDEO-CHRISTIAN VALUESS1111!" shilling is just a meme.
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What they used to have in common is the 0 tolerance policy toward other religions.

> Gentiles
> Pagans
> Infidels
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>>127321741
Hahahahaha
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>>127319127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-IUB62zDlA
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>>127322257

>This.

Jesus calls himself God.
Says Jews worship Satan.

Paul warns early Christians about shining angels preaching a different Jesus.
Shining angel preaches a different Jesus to Mohammad.
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All of their sources are in the bible/quoran, why should I belive these books written by mortals/normies? anyone please enlighten me.
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Yes.

Saturn.
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>>127319578
>>127319425
>>127319381
All the bases are covered. We can leave.
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>>127319760
can you repeat the question?
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>>127322663

old meme is old.
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>>127322490
Quran contains element that Muhammad couldn't even know.
Like frosty environments and weather, details about the sea and he's supposed to be illiterate yet the Quran exists.
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>>127322257

Even Christians can't agree on the exact meaning of the trinity. There are non-trinitarians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nontrinitarianism
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>>127319127
he who does not have the son does not have the father
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https://youtu.be/quTXwTjgfc0
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No.
God is three consubstantial persons.
The Father, the Son (Jesus) and the Holy Ghost.

Semites don't accept Jesus as the Son, therefore their god is not the Christian God.
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>>127322465
Muhammed was demonstrably ignorant about the doctrine of the Trinity.

"O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs." - Sura 4:171

Specifically argues that Christians believe in three gods when we speak of the Trinity. Still run into this today because Muslims *HAVE* to believe that Christians worship three gods, because that's what the Quran says.
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>>127322703

What are traders
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>>127320710
You actually buy that bullshit argument?
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>>127322889

meanwhile the Quran is elevated to the same status of God and the space rock in Mecca forgives sins.

>Islam has 3 distinct gods
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>>127319127
That is an open question.
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>>127322709
>Implying Non-Trinitarians are Christian.

Nope. The ancient ecumenical creeds anathematized those who weren't Trinitarian and thereby by definition they aren't Christian.

>"...We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, light from light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father;
through him all things were made..."
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>>127322703

Forgot to add,

>what is arabian snow.
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>>127319127
No, Jews believe in an older Version of the Muslims one. The Christian god is just a buddhist hippy giving his teachings a god
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>>127322490

The Bible and Jewish scriptures are mostly based on prophets and witnesses. The Pope disapproves of biblical literalism.

The Quran is the LITERAL WORD OF GOD. That's why Islam is a big issue. You can't downplay or ignore the word of your deity.
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No.

and the idea Jesus and Yahweh represent anything but moral *opposites* requires massive amounts of brainwashing.
oh, dont think so? compare Jew God with Jeebus:

https://www.controversyofzion.info/Controversybook/Controversybook_eng_Appendix.htm

oh and read The World Conquerers:

https://archive.org/details/TheWorldConquerors-TheRealWarCriminals1958
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>>127319127
>muslims
1 Corinthians 8:6
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.
>jews
pic related
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>>127319127
Yes, and it's all bullshit.
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>>127319837
I think christianity was already a thing hundreds of years before islam was hip.
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>>127319127
Yes
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>>127319127
There is only one god, Christ Jesus. Accept him or you will burn in hellfire for eternity.
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Modern Jews are the Pharisees of the bible.

Yashua Christ told us everything we need to know about the Pharisees in the Old Testament.

They are not of God, they are of Satan.

All faiths that deny Christ is God in physical form as human, are not worshiping God.
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If you still believe the jews believe in the Old Testament and God watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=typ2pl2L47k
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>>127323227

He didn't write the Quran. His oral teachings were trimmed down and compiled decades after his death.
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>>127323284
The Koran was dictated by demons
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>>127323853

Hallucinations and his controlling wife.
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>>127319381
It that was true then all would follow the teachings of Islam, but as it is Christians, or at least me, believe Mohammed to be a false prophet because he denied the divinity of Jesus, and Jews believe Jesus to be a false messiah and Mohammad as a false prophet. So if they all followed the same God then they would have to acknowledge both of them.
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>>127323284
I seriously don't know anything about Islam, who wrote the quoran? ANd why is it considered the literal word of god as you mentioned?
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Christianity only became a non-Moloch religion when the schism happened and Catholicism got mixed in with ass loads of Germanic Pagan beliefs, traditions, and morals.

Protestants are crypto-jews

Jews are either worship Baal or Moloch. International Khazars being the latter, as do all Protestant sects that take the word of OT (Torah) as the word of God.

Islam worships either Baal(Sunni), Moloch(Shia), or some of the Old Gods ( Alawites, and Ibadis )


Catholics might as well worship the Germanic Pantheon just different interpretations of it, which is what makes it the best religion. It's being taken over right now a la Vatican 2.0, but we will hold strong against the minions of the YWHW.

Monotheism destroys cultures from within.
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>>127320569
Canonically, Allah, Yahweh, and "The Father" are all said to be the same.
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>>127320303
One's teachings overthrew the Roman Empire.
The other united some Arabic nomads to kill some Jews.
Wew lad
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>>127319127
Yes. They are all wings of the cult of Saturn.
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>>127319127
all monotheists believe in the same god you fucking retard
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no, the god of each and every believer is distinct , in addition if one changed religions at any point the god of the religion he left and the one he entered are distinct.
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>>127324815
if we were to make a new sect of Christianity and interpreted the Bible to be the work of Kek, but made distinctions to throw off people and tell them they're crazy, and that we're Christian just like you, and our God is the same as your God, would it still be canonical because we're tricking them?

I don't think so
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>>127324815
>Canonically
>Three separate and incompatible religious canons

What are you, high?
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>>127324092

Not all true, anon. When Mohammed was questioned about the divinity of Jesus, he did say he was not the son of God, but he admitted Jesus was a person who never sinned.

>>127323266

t. potato nigger who has never read the Bible
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>>127325078
I don't know anything about the occult or metaphysical where do i start with this saturn crap?
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>>127324544
>Catholicism got mixed in with ass loads of Germanic Pagan beliefs, traditions, and morals.

I didn't know this, what kind of germanic pagan beliefs, traditions and morals does catholicism has?
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>>127325188
This isn't totally true. If a Christian converted to Judaism, he is not worshipping a new God. Likewise, if a Jew converts to Christianity, it means he accepts Jesus as the promised Son of God, but the Father is still the same being.

Allah is also "The Father," but the Quran obviously makes some additions to his character.

People saying Jews worship the devil... this is something else. I don't think most Jews are into this. It's sort of like saying "Americans are satanists" just because our politicians and autistic dweebs partake in it. There are many more Christian Americans than Satanic Americans, just as there are more traditional Jews than the other kind.
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>>127319127
No, the muslim god is unitarian. The jewish god is satan.
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>>127323628
lol ok makes a lot of sense.
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>>127326061
isnt satan from christian\muslim mythology ? i mean im no expert on judaism but i've never heard of satan mentioned in the context of judaism.
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>>127325215
>>127325246
What I said wasn't wrong, you guys need to slow down your autism. They are all the same god / same being. Each has slightly different takes and each has its own believers but they are canonically the same.

It's like when a new author that takes over the Superman comics. You can reject what direction the new author has taken the character, but it is still Superman. "Allah" is the same Abrahamic God of the Jews and of the Christians. This does not mean the Jews and Christians cannot reject what the Quran says, just like how traditional Jews reject the New Testament and Christ.
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>>127326061
Acts 7:43
Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.
This just proves that jews practice child sacrifice to worship Moloch.
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>>127326412
This.
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>>127319127
No, the trinity is what Christians worship. Jews reject the trinity. And Muslims are a gnostic monotheistic sect like the Manichaeans who don't really worship the same God.
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>>127320303
That whole unit got ambushed and murked by kebab removal units.
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>>127319127
No.

Jews have an incomplete image of God. They abandoned the covenant with him. They are not the Jews any more.

Muhammad made up his own religion. He tried to make it Jewish-y but also Pagan-y so Arabs and Jews would join him. Anyone who reads about Islam and its history can not only see it's fake but also see his child bride didn't even believe him.
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>>127326662
The one Christians call "Satan" has another name within Jewish circles. Not all Jews are Judaic. From what I understand, there is a small sect of Jews that have forsaken the Father and are now worshipping another. This "other" is what we (Christians) call Satan.
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Yes
Jews believe in God, Jesus believed in the same God as he was born to (previously) Jewish parents. This is why the Bible incorporates the Torah.
Muslims believe Jesus was simply a prophet of God, the same as Mohammed, who came with the update version of the Bible.
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>>127319127
Jews and Jews, Christians and Christians, Muslims and Muslims dont even believe in the same god
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>>127326785
That was God (Yahweh, The Father) being pissed off at them for worshipping Moloch and then punishing them for it.

I think some Jews still do this today, but the vast majority of Jews are traditional and still look up to the Father.
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>>127324413

Sorry it's been too long since I delved into Islamic culture. Fascinating topic.
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>>127325825
Christmas (Yule)

New Years (equinox)

St. Nick (Odin)

all the old Saints (different germanic pagan gods)

how new saints are created and how they're worshipped (idoltry, biggest reason reformation happened)

Mary (Earth Mother, Freya or others)

Easter (Ä’ostre)

these are good things tho
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>>127327479
so they're not really jews are they ? i mean they believe the mythology but being jewish means being a worshiper of god.
is there a name for someone who believes in a religion's mythology but worships someone else from that mythology ?.
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>>127319127
>Abrahamic_Religions
That's heresy, O.P.
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>>127319127
All monotheistic religions were created by the masters for the slaves, they are prisons of the mind. Chritianity is a prison takeover
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>>127328223
Well, the thing is, "Jew" can refer to both "the Jewish people" and the Jewish faith, so it gets hazy.

This sect of Jewish people that worship another will claim they are Jewish through and through, but behind closed doors there is another they pray to which is not the Father.

It's not just Jews that partake in this, there are Americans and Saudis and all sorts of sinners that drink from this cup.

Christians call them Satanists, but I don't know what they call themselves today.
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>>127322748
The only Christian explanation that matters. The muslims have a plagerized version of the bible that they copied names and figures from but adapted their desert worship to. While they maintain they uphold Jesus as a prophet, they don't consider him the Christ - which is blasphemy with a bow on it. Jews are just atheists that don't even pray or believe in any heaven or hell and will gladly blasphemize to your face.

There is only one faith - Christianity.
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>>127328849
Holy Shit, I love how badly made this is, I'm keeping it. On topic, I think yes the three worship the same old god, but im not sure about how really similar they are when you start looking at the different sects and branches.
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>>127329731
thank u i just made it

ot:
catholics worship germanic gods, odin, freya, thor, and ostara.

shia = baal
sunni = moloch
protestants = moloch & baal/ywhw
orthodox = YWHW/baal
khazar jews = moloch
jewish jewsh = YWHW/baal
mormons = YWHW/baal

proofs me wrong
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>>127319381
>>127319425
>>127319578
first three posts best posts
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>>127319127
who gives a shit
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>>127330258
Is moloch lucifer or satan?
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>>127334607
same thing
its all saturn
so yes?
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>>127320030
>implying the trinity is Christian.
I'd stop believing in fanfiction if I were you
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>>127323039
Burden of proof is on the person making a claim. That person claimed there is no God, so where is the proof? (protip: Dismissing a claim is not accepting the opposing claim)
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>>127319127
No.
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>>127319837
If you deny that Jesus was resurrected on the cross, and that he is the one and only son of god, you are a filthy heathen
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>>127335652
He died on the cross. He was resurrected in a tomb.
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>>127335652
>canadian intellectuals
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No muslims believe in Satan, jews in shekels
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>>127319865
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>>127319865
>village rapist flag

makes total sense actually
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>>127319127
Jews and Muslims, yes but christians believe in a trinity
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>>127336046
>>127336207
Close enough - my point is Muslims don't think he was resurrected, nor the son of God. All muslims whomst say Jesus is in the Quaran, don't tell you that they also lie about him in their book
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>>127324092
/thread
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>>127324092
Maimonides said that muslims are not idolators
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>>127324413
God uttered the Quran through the tongue of Gabriel to the Islam prophet Habibi Muhammed (PBUH).

Perhaps this will pave a somewhat insightful inroad into the Islamic psyche.
>inb4 Piss Be Upon Him
You will burn.

/POL/ IT ISN'T A MATTER OF SOCIAL JUSTICE AND A FAIRY-TALE LOLLIPOP-TIER LIFE, IT'S ABOUT DOING PHILOSOPHY, FINDING THE TRUTHS AND ADHERING TO IT.

Most of you are bainlet little brainwashed cucks.
>inb4 we redpill this blackie
I am more redpilled than most of you.
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>>127319127
not
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>>127319381
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>>127319654
>>127319635
>>127320180
-Islam is a false religion tendered by a false prophet ( may he be cursed).
-Allah is the pagan crescent moon god of Islam
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>>127330258
this gave me cancer
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>>127319127
Protestants and Muslims believe in the same God, Catholics believe in the Logos
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>>127337923
>Le Evolution is a hoax xD xD

you might want to read a book other than the bible
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>>127338292
i read 12 books per year
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>>127338626
Very nice, but the different books of the bible don't count
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>>127325623
>he did say he was not the son of God, but he admitted Jesus was a person who never sinned.
So, he denied the divinity of Jesus.
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>>127338744
i'm sorry but business, politics and economy books are not the bible.
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>>127319127
Yes.we,they all worship the same God only in different ways
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>>127339459
I already expected that you are not into science
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>>127339997
science book are useless, if you are not an engineer, but i have read 1 or 2.
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Jesus Christ, this thread.

Yes, they all believe in the same God.

The basic premise is the Old Testament in which it was prophesized there would be a final prophet in the future to end the suffering of mankind. This is what the Jews believe. They are still waiting for this Messiah. The Jewish story ends here.

Christians believe Jesus Christ was the promised Messiah. Jews don't.

Muslims believe Jesus was an important prophet of God, but he wasn't the final one. Mohammed was the final one.

It really is this simple.
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>>127319127
Yes and no. In so far as anyone believes in "one God" they are generally talking about the same being. Their understanding will vary wildly between the groups. But in the Bible it's clear even Greeks had some monotheists which Paul addresses as those who worship what they do not know.

With that said, Jews and Muslims believe God could not be trinitarian in nature. Christians do. So the Christian God is fundamentally different in understanding than those two. But I believe they'd all argue that God is one.
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>>127341514
>Jews and Muslims believe God could not be trinitarian in nature. Christians do.
It's not that simply. The basic premise of the doctrine of trinity is contradictory. There is no sense to be made about it, you just have to believe it. It's basically the litmus test for being a Christian so it doesn't really mean anything in a theological sense.

And yes, I know there have numerous attempts to explain the trinity in logical terms (such as the form and substance argument) but they are all unsatisfactory. But that's why it's called FAITH.
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>>127341935
if it doesn't make sense and people are just supposed to believe it, why do christians expect us to accept Jesus? and why do they even believe it in the first place?
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>>127319127
Jews and Christians do. Not Muslims.
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>>127342779
If you could logically accept christianity it would be called science.

The way faith works is you are either raised in a catholic home, or you read scripture, resonate with it, and become religious. It requires either a leap of faith (t. Soren Kierkegaard) or religious/mystical experience. Not logic.
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>>127343002
The jews would disagree there, see maimonides
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>>127343002
Muslims do, they say Jesus was a prophet.
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>>127319127
Absolutely not! Allah (piss be on him) is not the same God that Jews and Christians worship. Anyone who believes this is a fool.
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>>127319127

If said Jew actually believes in the Torah/OT Bible then yes.

Otherwise Muslims worship satan, and most Jews are atheists.
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First jews and first christians were muslims and true muslims are waiting for the second coming of Jesus
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>>127346582

Not even close, buddy.
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>>127319127
Apparently not...
See thread where multiple jews comment about (((their)))) messiah :
>>127325743

See them flee when questioned further...
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>>127319127
Yes, they're all practically the same religion.
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>>127346171
>>127345639

no, jews reject the notion that they worship the same God as christians, read the works of maimonides
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One of the three bans lying and deceit as sinful and against God. One of the three claims that truth will set us free.
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>>127347175

The first Christians were literally Israelites. Doesn't get more Jewish than that.

Since then they've pulled away because (((they))) hate Jesus. The Pharisees were called the sons of Satan, and they've lead the Jewish people astray.

As for Maimonides - who lived lived in the 12th century ffs - Does that guy look even remotely like a Jew to you?
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>>127348363
Maimonides is almost universally accepted by the jews. he's their most important and influental scholar. And it doesn't matter if the first christians were ethnic jews, we are talking about the religion
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>>127347175
Doesn't matter what Maimonides says, the Jewish and Christian God are the same fellow.
INRI
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>>127348785
thats also the logic of the muslims, don't matter what they believe we know we worship da same God. and yes it does matter because that is literally what the jews themselves believe
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No, Muslims are heretics.
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>>127349003
The fundamental difference between a Christian and Jew is whether they believe Jesus is the son of God.
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>>127348679

Doesn't matter if they believe what he says. He's still wrong. They can believe that they're not worshiping the same God all they want. But they're then rejecting their own history because they don't like Christ.

Yeshua HaNazarei v Melech HaYehudim

YHWH
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>>127319127
yes but Jews worship Satan, Christians worship a dead hippy, Muslims fear the boar
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>>127349226
Christians believe in a trinity and that Jesus is God, Jews are strict monotheists and unitarists and reject that a man can be God.
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Hell no.

Christians are literally polytheists who worship three gods. But at least Muslims and Jews have Allah and YHWH so that might be closer.
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>>127349337
They are not rejecting their own history, christians worship Jesus, jews don't simple. You are using muslim logic
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>>127349372
The trinity isn't three separate Gods, they are all aspects of Yahweh. If you are Christian, Jesus is the son of Yahweh.
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>>127349464
>>127349422

see >>127349550
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>>127319127

Jews and Muslims believe in the old god while Christians believe in the new kinder more reformed nicer god.
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>>127349372
Jesus Christ has 2 natures. Human and Divine. Jews sacrifice children and don't even believe in Hell.
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>>127319127
No, our God is real. You Christians and Muslims believe in the devil not God.
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>>127349422
>Christians are literally polytheists
Hello Ahmet when are you going back to your shithole?
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>>127349550
I know that, Jews however reject the Jesus and Holy Spirit part. At best jews are worshipping 1/3 of the christian God. Try telling an ultra-orthodox jew that they are worshipping the same God as the christians
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>>127319127
Yes. The wrathful Abrahamic war God. Their infighting is destroying the world. Fuck them all.
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>>127319127
-Islam is a false religion tendered by a false prophet ( may he be cursed).
Islam denies the death and resurrection of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, which is blasphemy, Islam does not accommodate traditions; we don’t get our winter solstice with Islam
Allah is the pagan crescent moon god of Islam
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>>127349550
According to Christianity, Jesus and God have different consciousnesses, and one is the son of the other. It's literal polytheism, a fucked up sort of paganism.

Muslims and Jews believe in the same God, even though both disagree with the way the other sees God. But Christians are different, they believe in several Gods.
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>>127319127
No, Jews and Christians worship the same god, muslims worship satan.
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>>127349872
There's the difference in the religions. If Jews believed Jesus was the son of God they would be Christians.

>>127350022
It's not polytheism, you won't find churches dedicated to just the Holy Spirit or Jesus. They're separate, but the same. It's one entity with three parts.
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>>127349998
Hello Juan, long time no see
>>127349765
Jews still reject his alleged divine nature and therefore the very essence of your christian trinity God
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>>127350152
>They're separate, but the same. It's one entity with three parts.

So it's several Gods composing one Supergod. It's still polytheism. Both Muslims and Jews put important emphasis on the monotheism of their religion, Christians don't.

>>127350108
Uh sweetie, Jews don't believe in your Supergod as mentioned earlier. They are strictly monotheists. YHWH is one entity not composed of many.
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>>127350152
Of course they are differet, Jews worship YHWH while christians believe a trinity God where YHWH is supposed to be part of. Jews do not worship your trinity God
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>>127349826
>not realizing belief in a Trinity doctrine means Mary is the mother of God
>unironically not being with Her
>being this pagan
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/05/24/first-lady-melania-trump-visits-bambin-gesu-childrens-hospital-in-rome/
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Allah has no son and the judaism gods son isnt name jesus

so no
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>>127350022
Mudslime detected.
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>>127350345
Christians believe God has three aspects. It's a very difficult concept to explain, but they are all God. God is still its own thing.

>>127350355
Allah, Yahweh, God all refer to the same supreme being.
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Same god yes, all three destined to fuck man.
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>>127350515
The christian use of the word God refers to the trinity God
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No, 2 of the 3 believe that God has chosen people, whereas one of the three believes everyone has a chance for salvation. Another major difference is that 1 of the 3 states that its own adherents will also be sent to hell. One of the three also believes in the trinity, that God is merciful, etc.

May I remind you that Jews and Muslims follow dietary, clothing, etc. laws whereas Christians believe God does not care about what a person wears or eats because they need to simply strive for improvement.

Also, Christianity's presence is practically non-existent in the middle east whereas Judaism and Islam have large populations there.

One of these religions is not like the others.
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>>127350847
All three believe that the israelites were chosen people
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>>127319127
of course.
jews: god, old testament
christians god, jesus, old testament and new testament
muslims: god, muhammad, koran
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>>127350425
I think this is the ritz carlton in Tokyo? I've been there a few times for work.
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>>127350345

Then why do their creation myths say "us" and "our" when God is referring to Himself?

>http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/8165/jewish/Chapter-1.htm
See verse 26.

The simplest way I can describe what Christians believe when concerning the Trinity is that each is a separate part of the same whole. Like your body, mind, and spirit/soul are separate parts of the same being.
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All religions with a supreme God worship the same being (assuming one exists) Logically there is no reason for a God to give a shit what you call him.
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>>127350483
Nice argument, you sure disproved me there.

>>127350515
That is the problem right there, your "but they are all God", the THEY part. Listen, when God appeared as a burning bush in front of Moses, it was different, because it was still God, with his own consciousness in another form. However, with Jesus it's different, since Jesus is the "Son of God" and has his own consciousness. They're separate even if you try to regroup them.

You can believe what you want, I have no quarrels with Christians but that's just the scripture.

>May I remind you that Jews and Muslims follow dietary, clothing, etc. laws whereas Christians believe God does not care about what a person wears or eats because they need to simply strive for improvement.

Protestantism is truly a cancer to behold. Catholicism is more representative of Christianity than Protestantism is.
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>>127347175
I have no idea why some disagree with you. Christianity rejects a lot of what Judaism claims, such as the Jews being God's chosen people, and being the only humans with access to salvation. The trinity i's another item that distinguishes Christianity from Judaism, as Jews believe Christianity is polytheistic, but utilize another term to avoid the usage of that word.

People do not seem to comprehend that one religion favors a specific group of people whereas the other allows salvation for all.
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>>127351059
Majestic plural, it's also used in the Quran
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>>127320884
And yet, angry abrahamics talk about pagans "dividing" Europe while we know Indo-European religions are more similar to each other than the gorillion sects of Christianity. Really makes me think.
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>>127351259
False. Examples include
>alcoholics worship alcohol
>satanists worship themselves or Satan
>jews worship themselves or Satan
>Muslims and jews worship the methodology / altar, not the God behind it.
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>>127351286

Meant to add >>127350847 in there

>>127351059
YHWH is one being, one God. He doesn't have "different" aspects of him, he is one consciousness and one being, not some sort of Supergod made out of three other Gods like with Christians.
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>>127351526
Kali cult.
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>>127351586
>Muslims and jews worship the methodology / altar, not the God behind it.

eksblain
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>>127319127
Its the 3 branches of the Abrahamic religion...
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>>127350961
You seem to not comprehend Christianity then. In the old testament, which included various Jewish laws, the Jews were considered God's chosen people, although Jesus' sacrifice (in Christianity) meant that this was no longer the case as all humanity had access to salvation after his sacrifice.

Salvation in Christianity isn't limited to Jews.
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>>127351286
I don't think anyone understands the Trinity and I think that's meant to be the point.
A better way of putting it is that
the Islamic God is the Christian God is the Jewish God. Each builds on the story of the last religion.

First there was Judaism. Jesus came along and said to the Jews, I am the son of God, creating Christianity. Then came Mohammed who said that Jesus was simply a prophet and that God's son had not yet come. They all worship or want the favour of the same being.
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>>127351751
It's why they think that Christians worship the cross/icons. Jewish law is an algorithm, likewise so is the Islamic law. They are not principles, they are exact notions of how to conduct your life, as if you were a machine.
They worship the structure they build, not what it is meant to represent. Christ preached of this in Matthew 23.
Protestantism is the closest Christianity gets at that, and even then they could grow if they read theology or Kierkegaard.
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>>127319127
>Jews
Worships Moloch
>Christians
Worships God
>Muslilms
Worships a pedophile warlord
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>>127352177
This is also why everything Christ teaches is an unwanted, unconventional, counterintuitive way to act in the world.
>Who gave more to the poor? The poor woman or the rich man?
Why is it the poor woman? Because it is the principle that guided actions, not the list of empty facts.

If you want strength and power to be valued, you don't cry about Christians being weak (so that they get annoyed at you and if they were to gain power, would use it against you); you showcase what it means to be powerful.
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>>127351871
Doesn't Islam reject the new testament of Christianity though? Based on my conversations with Muslims, they do not seem aware about miracles that Jesus did in most of the new testament, he seems to be mentioned as a prophet in Islam only.
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>>127352177
bretty sure that muslims and christians do not worship the law they follow, but follow it to please God, also none of them believe that christians worship the cross, where did you pick that up?
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Acts 4:12
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
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>>127319604
yep.. says it all
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>>127352581
It wouldn't change Mohammed's claims about himself being a prophet of God.
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>>127351591

>YHWH is one being, one God.

I can't think of a Christian that would disagree.

>He doesn't have "different" aspects of him, he is one consciousness and one being, not some sort of Supergod made out of three other Gods like with Christians.

Then explain how God physically walks with Moses on Mount Sinai - while His Spirit is protecting the Israelites with a pillar of cloud and fire in the desert at the base of the mountain.
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>>127352609
>You worship a man!
>You worship a cross!
The accusation of Christians as idolaters is common amongst jews and muslims. I think that the former has it as their theological stance.
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>God can't be all these things!

God can do whatever it wants.
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>>127351871
Your statement is still wrong though. If they all worship the same God, how can Jews believe that only Jews have access to salvation as they are supposedly "God's chosen people." Whereas Christianity rejects that, hence Jesus' sacrifice.

For Christianity to worship the same being, it would have to agree with the principles of Judaism. Which it obviously does not. Hence why Christianity is its own religion, and not a sect of Judaism.
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>>127352926
You call ships 'she', so God would be 'He'. To use, or to be used.
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When we have Norwegians and Brits defending Christianity, I don't know what to believe is true anymore. And no, that's nothing new, but it still doesn't clear up who's serious and who's not. Also, yes.

>>127323545
And Judaism was for who knows how long before that, yet they still claim Abraham was a Muslim too, because he submitted to the one true God AND was following his plans within the proper era. Ridiculous, yes, but I really do love studying Islamic mental gymnastics.
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>>127352971
That doesn't change what they believe is God.
The difference between Jew/Christian/Muslim comes down to two people, Jesus and Mohammed.
If you believe Jesus is the Son of God, you're a Christian. If you believe Mohammed to be the final prophet of God you're a muslim. If you don't buy either of those (but still believe in God) you're a Jew.
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Jews and Christians believe in the real God but allah is really the devil in disguise
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1 John 2:22-23
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
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>>127325748
you aren't ready.
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>>127352867
but christians literally worship a man. jesus was a man
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>>127319127
quick run down.......... they all believe in the same god. Jews=old testament god. Christians Old testament god plus jesus. Im sure you are familiar with these. the most abstract one people dont know about is islam. Muslims believe in the same God, they believe Jesus was a holy man who delievered the word of God and God performed miracles through him because of his immense faith, they dont think Jesus performed the miracles himself. They believe Jesus ascended to heaven before his Crucifixion because God would not let such a man be killed. They dont think God can be "incarnated" on earth as christians believe. ie jesus being Gods son. They think Muhammod was a prophet of this God and actually believe in a second coming of christ. this pretty much sums it up. i might be off in a little bit of that. Any rag head care to confirm or deny?
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>>127352971

Old Testament Jews would sacrifice animals to cover their sins for the year.

Christians believe that Jesus was the final sacrifice, and that he fulfilled the requirements of the Mosaic Law/Ten Commandments. Therefore you find salvation through accepting Him, and redemption of sins via His blood - not through your own works.

Jews and Muslims do not believe this to be the case
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>>127352207
THIS, except jews worship more than one pagan god, they have many names for their pantheon, the philistine one, Elohim is Moloch Baal and Jehovah and El Shaddai are the sons of Baal, the moon and the sun. In christianism it depends of the denomination, evangelicals, catholics, othodoxs, Jehovah witness and such type of denominations worship the same concept of superior God that jews do. Some lutherans, some protestants, cathars and such type of denominations worship more or less the correct God, which is Jesus alone.
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>>127353544
if the opened cube is a cross, then why is Islam bad?
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>>127353636
Kek. Almost fell for that one.
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>>127319127
YES

THEY

DO!

Jesuits on here will damage control the fuck out of this thread
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>>127319127
jews believe in lucifer and muslims believe in a pedophile moon god
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>>127353785
It's closed.
>???
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>>127353346
this
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>>127337923
Yes
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>>127353683
>they all believe in the same god

John 16:3
And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.

John 8:19
Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.

John 8:55
Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.
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>>127319127
Yes.

It's name is Yahweh
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>>127353785
an opened cube doesn’t change that Islam was created by an illiterate paedophilic warlord thirsty with power since his awful infancy as an orphan
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>>127319127
No
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>>127353367
>Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
Still SAME YHWY
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>>127319381
Fpbp
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>>127353935
>jews believe in lucifer
Lucifer is Roman (Catholic meme)
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>>127353965
you need a shitlaod of imagination to interprete a cube as SATANIC DEMON WORSHIP
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>>127354112
By your logic Hinduism and Buddhism are the same then
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>>127354112
if you watch this it proves that the jews dont even believe in the old testament anymore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=styLx-iWwC8

and jesus said if you dont know him you dont know the father numerous times >>127353983

so obviously they dont know YHWH
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>>127319127
Yes, it's made very clear in each religon that they worship "The God of Abraham." The similarities pretty much end there though.
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>>127354427
But Christians worship Jesus as God, Joos and Muslims do not
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>>127354538
Doesn't matter.
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>>127354361
What Jesus said doesn't really matter, any man can pull shit out of his ass, especially if he want's to push a form of thinking onto people.
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>>127354256
>By your logic Hinduism and Buddhism are the same then
They are... If you don't want to be trapped in some fucked up Buddhism sect, learn its history through Hinduism (and that history through Aryan Veddas and even Zarathustra). This will protect you from gurus

>>127354361
I've watched all those videos because the anti-white Paster Anderson just grabbed videos off youtube and made a compilation. He's a FED I think, like most of the Christian Identity movement (KKK).

>they don't know YHWH
But Christians say that about other christians and Muslims but it's all the same God.
>>127354427
Same dickhead God. Jesus was a sweet little girly man and Mohomo was a warlord. But same deity head
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>>127322257
John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
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>>127355127
>>127355115
well if you look at it from a christian perspective our bible says that the jews god is not the father

it says ye are you your father the devil

so thats quite a contrast
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>>127319127
JESUS IS OUR PROPHET TOO CHRISTKEKS AND HE'S NOT GOD AND WAS A MERE PROPHET WHO PREACHED MONOTHEISM AND NEVER SAID "muh I'm god lmfao"

AND WE LOVE JESUS TOO. WE HAVE TO SAY "PEACE BE UPON HIM" EVERYTIME WE SAY HIS NAME.
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>>127355315
>John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
oooh I'M SO SCARED!!!!!!

mind slave

>>127355480
>well if you look at it from a christian perspective our bible says that the jews god is not the father
Yeah but your Jap porn "chrisan" perspective doesn't change shit for normal Christians.

WHEN YOU BUY A BIBLE

IT COMES WITH THE OLD TESTAMENT GOD
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>>127319381
>>127319425
>>127320036
>>127321497
>>127326061

they believe in the same deity, the god of Abraham. the difference is simply 1) the reverence towards Isaac's descendants vs Ishmael's descendants, and 2) the role of Jesus of Nazareth as the MC vs an MC vs a pretty cool side character.


same characters, just lots of goalpost-moving debates over what is canon
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>>127355480

That was in reference to the Pharisees, who had lead the Israelites away from the intended purpose of God's Law and added all sorts of addendums to it.

They were corrupt and using their station for their own ends.
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>>127321741
Not all who claim to be jews are jews....search the word Kenite
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wait guys guys guys...

who's Jesus for Jews then?
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REMINDER:

(Mossad), the paid Catholic shills, and the Paid Russian Orthodoxy shills push this... All of these groups = the Alt-Right meme.


The "elite" is code for Jews and their blackmailed sociopath pedophiles (Hillary's mom was a Jew). Because Jews run a child sex slave ring out of Ukraine/Israel and sometimes South America (see Hatti and Clintons) and use pedophiles as their boot-licking goy politicians/celebrities.

They use the symbolism of the occult because it's a marketing campaign to cover up for Zionist and Jewish Communist crimes/power moves. The occult became degenerate as fuck ever since Thelma (Alestor Crowley), Anton (((Levy))) of Hollywood Satanism, and Navy Intelligence groups took over the scene; although it was always a place for scam artists. Freemasons became corrupted after being bought out by Jews in the mid-1800s -- thanks to Napoleon emancipating the Jews and the Rothschild take over Britain with the fall of Napoleon (See Rothschild's run on the stocks after Battle of Waterloo)

Catholics and Russians are both pro-Communism and therefor cover for them too by telling you it's "Satanists" and not Jewish Communists and their Zionist mafia allies. This is something the John Birch Society did when re-inventing the "Illuminati" meme (see Alex Jones connection).

Moloch = word meaning KING (Assyrian)

Moloch propaganda = Jewish hate of enemy king, like they do to Assad

's'atan = Aramaic word meaning "adversary", any adversary, or many adversaries.

Satan the character = Catholic meme to demonize our ancestral gods and dumb down Bible references for stupid plebeian audiences.

Lucifer = Morning Star
Jesus = Morning Star
Luciferians = Christian monks who pissed off the Pope

Judaism = pre-Christianity

Marxism/Communism = Post Christianity Judaism

Cultural Marxism = critical theory, aka strategy to demoralize the Jew's enemies.
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>>127355677
ya but they dont believe the old testament

the old testament is a christian book

John 5:46-47
For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

>>127355806
the jews are the same way today

they have the talmud
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>>127355869

From what I can tell they believe he was "a great teacher." or something.

Basically just some carpenter.
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>>127319127
Pretty much
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>>127356030

The Talmud was written by the Pharisees after they were removed from Israel. So yeah.
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>>127319127
The same Egyptian god YES monotheism come from the Ancient Egypt.
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(Mossad), the paid Catholic shills, and the Paid Russian Orthodoxy shills push this... All of these groups = the Alt-Right meme.


The "elite" is code for Jews and their blackmailed sociopath pedophiles (Hillary's mom was a Jew). Because Jews run a child sex slave ring out of Ukraine/Israel and sometimes South America (see Hatti and Clintons) and use pedophiles as their boot-licking goy politicians/celebrities.

They use the symbolism of the occult because it's a marketing campaign to cover up for Zionist and Jewish Communist crimes/power moves. The occult became degenerate as fuck ever since Thelma (Alestor Crowley), Anton (((Levy))) of Hollywood Satanism, and Navy Intelligence groups took over the scene; although it was always a place for scam artists. Freemasons became corrupted after being bought out by Jews in the mid-1800s -- thanks to Napoleon emancipating the Jews and the Rothschild take over Britain with the fall of Napoleon (See Rothschild's run on the stocks after Battle of Waterloo)

Catholics and Russians are both pro-Communism and therefor cover for them too by telling you it's "Satanists" and not Jewish Communists and their Zionist mafia allies. This is something the John Birch Society did when re-inventing the "Illuminati" meme (see Alex Jones connection).

Moloch = word meaning KING (Assyrian)

Moloch propaganda = Jewish hate of enemy king, like they do to Assad

's'atan = Aramaic word meaning "adversary", any adversary, or many adversaries.

Satan the character = Catholic meme to demonize our ancestral gods and dumb down Bible references for stupid plebeian audiences.

Lucifer = Morning Star
Jesus = Morning Star
Luciferians = Christian monks who pissed off the Pope

Judaism = pre-Christianity

Marxism/Communism = Post Christianity Judaism

Cultural Marxism = critical theory, aka strategy to demoralize the Jew's enemies.


>>127356030
Torah = OT, almost exactly the same. You're a liar pushing Jap porn race mixing
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>>127319127
Jews amd Muslims worship Baal(Satan).
Christians worship the Living God through His Son Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.

Secularists dont know what they are talking about. I used to be one of them.

It doesnt matter what Muslims say about Isa, that Isa is Jesus. Their story is a fabrication and a perversion.

Jews may say they worship the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob but Jesus said they are sons of the devil and that they dont even believe what Moses wrote or else they'd believe in Him because Moses wrote about Him. Etc.
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>>127322748
As if this makes any sense at all lol.

It's just trickery that means nothing. "They're all the same, but not the same :D"
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>>127356290
Fucking idiot.

Baal's existence was DENIED by Allah in the Quran An-Najm.

Go back worshipping a human fucking pagan.
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>>127355677
You are a slave to simplicity.
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>>127356054
But... He's a false messiah to them right?
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>>127356215
>Lucifer = Morning Star
>Jesus = Morning Star
This is what you get when apostates bring in their Satanic NIV/NLT/ESV/HIV (((translations))).

Fuck off shill and get a real Bible.
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>>127320569
I hope you and a number of pleb tier religious zealots understand that the trinity concept of God was not invented by Jews/Christians. The trinity conception of God existed long before the jews copied it. Let me know if you want source sauce.

Also, the trinity concept reflects a conceptualization of aspects of God. This is essentially Polytheism with lower numbers.

Anyway, let me know if you want source sauce on the trinity God in much earlier religions. I find it fantastical that there is a broad based belief that religions aren't built upon older foundations of older religions.
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>>127356215
they dont believe it bro even if some claim to follow the torah

theres probably not a hand ful of people on earth who just reads the torah and thats it

and if they did they would believe in jesus it says

so really the jews change everything and make their own religion and really it has nothing to do with the old testament god
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>>127356817

Essentially. They don't believe him to be the Messiah, like Christians do.

Most Jews I've seen actively hate him. Which is just sad.
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>>127356673
>Baal's existence was DENIED by Allah in the Quran An-Najm.
The finest trick of the devil is to persuade you that he does not exist.

Eat shit pagan goatfucker.

Go bow down 5 times a day to the fallen star, the black Kaaba stone in Mecca you filthy idolator.
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>>127319127
No. jews and muslims believe in a genocidal and jealous torture moon good. Christians believe in a loving god of good who manifests also in the Holy Spirit as well as Christ (who is both the son of god and an avatar of god). Not the same god. Protestants disagree because they're judaized retards. Muh Noah. Muh Abraham. Muh Moses. Muh Israel. Muh David and Solomon. Fucking kill yourselves for worshipping jewish fairytales you messianic jew faggots
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>>127357287
Are you saying that true Christians don't believe in the stories of the Old Testament? This is some next level retardation.
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>>127357277
LMFAO YOU'RE SO DUMB

The hilal* and not heylel is a political symbol of Muslim armies not an Islamic one.

>>127357287
Moon god's existence was denied in the Quran dumbass
Christianity is new paganism and is false af except for Jesus minus its divinity
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>>127356950
>t.babby just saw zeitgeist
You should lurk harder reddit.
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>>127319425
ofc the first person to be wrong is an american
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>>127356997
This.
The Talmud is about 500 years younger than the Gospels and epistles. Jews are in the longest running LARP in history after getting completely btfo by God.
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>>127350425
>>127351020
She looks korean.
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>>127357533
it even pre-dates islam, it was already used before
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All religions worship the same god, just differently distilled depending on geographic region and time period.
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>>127357811
it was only written down at that time, back then it was transmitted orally, learn history
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>>127319127
no, Muslims believe in a unique god
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>>127357277
And you don't even know your Bible. Helel ben Shahar is related to Shahar a deity of dawn.

>>127357122
Wew. I didn't know they actually hated him. Even in Islam he's the Messiah, "Al Massih"
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>>127357533
>LMFAO YOU'RE SO DUMB
Says the 3rd world refugee that comes from the land cursed by God for their blaspemy against His only begotten Son, Christ Jesus. You follow a highwayman who robbed and murdered, fucked a 9 year old girl so hard she couldnt have children, and practice a Satanic death cult where the atoning blood of Christ is replaced by dancing around a black meteor encased in a silver vagina.

You are like the Diana cult worshippers of Ephesus.

It is you that is uninformed, and blindly following Satan.

The Qur'an reads like an illiterate 5 year old dictates really bad fanfic to a Mexican nanny.
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>>127358197

Google jewish hatred for Jesus.

The Pharisees also hated him - they tried to have him killed constantly. And they then killed early Christians as well.
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The jew, muslim, nordic pagan, japanese pagan "supreme god" is the same: Saturn.
The christian, hindu, greek/roman pagan, zoroastrian god is the same: Jupiter.

Saturn will always lose any war because its followers are too weak to actually rule this world for a long time, just like Saturn itself. Repent or face the consequeces, LARPing faggots.
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I almost got rused into Islam. The god of islam is actually much more violent rather than actually merciful. There's nothing peaceful about islam. But Christianity is peaceful. They execute people for sins. Christians just pray for them. I'm glad I didn't waste any money on a prayer mat and quran. I would have had to burn them. I decided to go for Christianity instead. I bought a bible and stuff already.
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>>127357476
Catholics and Orthodox don't care about the jew testament. Only the psalms. They were only made canon to convert the various judean cults and as we still have a jewish problem it didn't even work out. There is nothing of value in those like books except anti-gentile fairytales full of genocide, incest, child sacrifice, and monolithic jewish lies including stolen mythology and history and plenty of non-historical bullshit (Solomon's non-existent empire).

If you value to the jew testament you aren't a real Christian. You really need to kill yourself if you think the jew testament is divine. I cannot stress this enough, you are a messianic jew. Might as well cut off half your dick (it's probably already gone anyways because burger) wear a yarmulke, and grow out your sidelocks. Protestants, which is the majority of Christian Americans (Baptists, Lutherans, etc), have become judaized. Even Hitler pointed this out. You are all useful idiots for "god's chosen race" of degenerate psychopaths. Might as well joint them
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>>127337923
And kikes deny Christ and speak of him badly in the Talmud. I don't like Muslims but at least they don't slander the Son of God and Mary (they do say that he isn't the son of God which is wrong but nothing about boiling in feces or anything bad about Mary).
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>>127357984
>back then it was transmitted orally, learn history
It was blaspemy conjured up while the Baal worshipping Jews were exiled in Babylon and lost the Ark of the Covenant and couldnt worship God anymore according to God's instructions.

The Israelites rarely ever stayed faithful to God, most of the old testament is talking about Israel doing evil in the sight of the Lord, and that evil was worshipping Baal.
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>>127356290
How about explain this one to me:

How is Christianity the way when the Jewish texts that supposedly predicted Jesus life make no mention of Jesus being called a son of God?

How about explain how the texts say the Messiah will be anointed with oil and rule a kingdom on behalf of God on earth? Did Jesus do that? Where is the kingdom?

Did Jesus restore the judges as they were in the beginning, as Isaiah preaches? Well did he? Where are the restored judges? Who are they?

Did Jesus gather the exiles back to the promised land? Well?

Did Jesus' kingdom (which who can see it?) does it last eternal? If so why can't I see it? Has suffering stopped? Has death ceased?

These are all predictions made about the Messiah that Jesus did not apparently accomplish or if he did, one is tough to see it.

I am not trying to argue with you angrily or put you down, but trying to understand your Christianity. How is it reasoned for you? Please explain.
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>>127358619
>His only begotten Son

Except that the NIV Bible removed the word "begotten" from all of the gospels. And the KJ Bible version is believed to be corrupted even by Christians.

You then speak all of the basic lies and misquotations about Muhammad.

And nobody's dancing around the Kaa'ba. Ka'aba is just a point of gathering, an orientation.

You're the one who's doing blasphemy here, giving to God a begotten son as if God was a human while his supposed son never said that he was the son of God nor that he was God.

Yet you raised him into the rank of God and followed a human concept named "Holy Trinity" that is nowhere found in the Bible and that the Bible actually contradicts.

You know it deep down.
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>>127358197
It seems like I touched a nerve, and that nerve knows that there is something that doesnt feel right about Islam.

All false religion is of Satan. The worship of any false god is the worship of Satan, who goes by many names, including Allah.
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>>127358902
>The God of Islam is actually much more violent

You've never read the Old Testament right? Where God poured a rain of evil on His enemies, destroyed an entire civilization for sodomy (as in the Quran), where He ordered to kill everybody, man or woman, child or adult, that doesn't worship Him...

Islam isn't the religion of peace nor the religion of hate.
Islam is fair.
Hate for hate
Peace for peace
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>>127359675
Yas gurl thank ya for showing me da way now I have a doubt about Islam.
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>>127359435
all dat shit happens at the end of the world why we have the book of revelation

dum dum

TO BE CONTINUED etc

go read it all that shit happens including eternal kingdom with no suffering
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>>127357122
Messiah is a jewish concept. It means annointed (with oil) in the context of kings. Same thing that Christ means. Most of the (mythological) jewish kings were called messiahs. Even a non-jewish king is referred to as a messiah (Cyrus). The coming messiah of the jews is what Christians believe Jesus fulfilled but the jews rejected him and had him crucified.

As far as I'm aware, Muslims don't believe in this messiah stuff. In Islam, Jesus is a prophet. He's the most important of the prophets even more so than Muhammad. They don't believe he was the son of god or an avatar of god or that he had the holt spirit because they consider this non-monotheistic. This is most likely influence by the old Arian controversy and Arian Christianity.

They also say he was taken up to heaven whole and didn't die on the cross (but a doppelgänger did in his place). This was once a common heretical belief in the Middle East, mostly among Gnostics. They also conflate him with Guatama Buddha in some instances (borrow from some of the Buddha mythos like his birth). And they believe he'll come back for judgement day similarly to the Christians except with some differences like helping out a human kill what is the antichrist in Christianity.

Islam is obviously an amalgamized religion of jewish, Christian, Zoroastrian, and Buddhist influences mixed with Arab paganism (Sabeanism) and Arab "culture" and nationalism. It's what you would expect to come from a bunch of backwards camel drivers
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>>127359541
>You're the one who's doing blasphemy here, giving to God a begotten son as if God was a human while his supposed son never said that he was the son of God nor that he was God.
>Yet you raised him into the rank of God and followed a human concept named "Holy Trinity" that is nowhere found in the Bible and that the Bible actually contradicts.
Both completely incorrect.

Jesus admits to being the Son of God several times. Unlike you, I have read both the Bible and the Qur'an. The Qur'an was on tape, but that's more than youve done. :^)

Jesus Appears to Thomas
>But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came. The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.

>And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
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