Argentina was a World Power in 1940

>>127316169
Communism.

Did it really go wrong? Memes asside I thought Argentina was a pretty nice country, much nicer than Mexico at least.

What went wrong: Basically the same as in Mexico. Niggers and indians were given the right to vote and nationalism turned into a game instead of a serious project... Also the Catholic church.

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>>127316438
This.

Also communist guerrilla exported and trained in cuba financed by globalist bankers fucked us up forever, our military saved our ass from becoming Colombia when the ERP and Montoneros añmost annexed Tucuman.

Sadly even thiugh we won the military war against subversion we lost the cultural war, hard.

So much that known terrorists who kidnapped, tortured and bombed civilians/military men/police men are free and in positions of power.
And they don't forget, even our ex malvinas heroes are being imprisioned just for vague accusations with no proof.

Lol our minister of defence in charge of the military was LITERALLY an ex montonera who killed military men in her youth.


They are all britain puppets too, of course you'd want to demonize our military and destroy it from inside.

Also britain please stop funding Mapuche's territory claims.


Want proof? ALL our politicians from ALL parties gather every year at the british embassy for the queens birthday.

>>127316221
Couldn't agree more.

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>>127316307
We have a huge middle class that pays nordic taxes for african tier public services to support the huge wellfare state due to anyone being allowed to come here illegally but still claiming wellfare.
Free public schools, free hospitals, free collegue.
Fuck there's hospitals where the rntire month of surgery appointments are filled 100% with paraguayans that don't eben live here.

They just cross the border when they need free hospitals, maybe even get payed to vote during elections too.

Plus extra wellfare for each kid, we are literally paying Bolivians, Peruvians, Colombians and Paraguayans to breed as much as they can.

Naturally our middle class is slowly but steadily shrinking.

Heres a list of everything that went wrong:
-Peronismo

Now in detail:
-Peronismo 1.0 (clasico)
-Peronismo 2.0
-Guerrilla against peronismo
-Peronismo 3.0
-After Peron peronismo
-Montoneros
-Menemistas
-Peronismo Kirchnerista

>>127318485
Peron was fine.

Ni yankee ni marxista, nacionalista.

>>127317962
VIVA PERON CARAJO!!!!

>>127318664
Actually, not developing the heavy industry while giving power to the sindicalists until you are about to enter an economic crisis was as bad as you can get for managing a country specially when everyone were starting to develop their own heavy industries

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I would move to Argentina in a heartbeat on account of Patagonia alone to be honest.

:/

>>127316307
Mexico is not even a nice country. There are very good living standards, but popular culture sucks and Mexican nationalism is very artificial and shallow; needless to say, this is not even sustainable.

Argentines have always been cucks, right from the beginning. Their entire nation was founded by Bonaerense Jews.
Any argentine worth his salt is actually uruguayan.

>>127317092
>ALL our politicians from ALL parties gather every year at the british embassy for the queens birthday.
lolwut I thought everyone there hated us

>>127316169
Socialism

>>127319210
There have been several heartbeats since, what is stopping you?

>>127320049
Everyone not worshipping your (((banks)))

>>127316169
Didn't know they were even a country back then
Good for them

>>127316169
Jews and commies, that's what happened

it*lians

>>127320252
Argentines.

>>127319255
lol shut up you are our province

>>127316169
Jews and welfare state

Jews have us grabbed by the balls since forever and make us pay retarded austerity measures for literally nothing (see "confessions of an economic hitman" in youtube - we're a textbook example of what he speaks about)

Welfare State because most of our taxes go to mantain an endless army of single mothers and other welfare recipients that will never contribute absolutely anything back to the society.

Jewish owned media makes sure to direct public opinion to whatever they want at the moment.

>>127320897
Are you a porteño?

>>127319210
patagonia is on everyone's crosshair

its gonna change a lot in the next 30 years

>>127320994
No, patagonia.

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>>127321153
Then YOU are (((their))) province, we are not. We are the only ones that took federalism seriously.

>>127320936
yes but what about their influence on the 40s and 50s?
did peron suck jewish dick? or did he tell them to btfo

>>127317092
>The eternal anglo strikes again

>>127321272
cause you are almost half than the size of bs as

not as easy in our country

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Where can a young white man go to escape western europe?
There are more niggers and mudslimes here everyday and it makes me sick.
The women are against traditional values and the men are cucks to the women.

>>127321153
Jelly you live in Patagonia.

Unless I'm blinded by the natural beauty and it's hard to make a living, grinding in poverty is shit wherever you live so I hear.

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Does Argentina show any signs of recovering and being a world power again?

>>127321596
are you white british? got $ or know useful stuff that pays?

then you can live like a king in patagonia, with lot lof luxury and beautiful towns

>>127321764
we hold more chances than you do ;)

still not looking good. Our new pres is doing deals with the chinese

>>127317962
sounds like Greece

>>127321272
nice yugoslavian flag

>>127321498
Top kek. You can't even think like a federalist.

Anyway, I cringe every time an actual argentinian provincian calls us a province. I'd get the joke from a porteño, but from you? You're the one leaving one third of your exports in Buenos Aires so that porteños can set their AC to 32 degrees in July.

Peron did nothing wrong, fuck everyone who takes his name and ruins it. They are not true Justicalists, they are all khazar swine.

RIP Peron, the greatest leader in the 20th century.

>>127322023
lol i actually live south of bs as province, next to rio negro

but i grew up in bariloche so i consider myself patagonian

the federalist vs unitarian issue is secondary to having a competent and honest leadership

>>127322193
yeh too bad he was civic nationalist. But then again after Hitler maybe he had no other choice

>>127322286
meh, Civic nationalism works when everyone just happens to be the same race and you never let it change

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>>127321950
>we hold more chances than you do ;)

>>127322196
Again, you can't even think like a federalist. If you expect competent leadership you'll eternally be a hopeful cuck.

Bolivians ruined Argentina, prove me wrong....ameridians were a big mistake like Mexican-mongrels

>>127322379
well, in Argentina it happens that we aren't. We have to force a white ethnostate. Non mixed european type is becoming a rarer with time

>>127316169
possibly if it abandons socialism, it has the land/water/resources it needs to be legit...but the people...eh...not enough winners.

>>127322394
well we got 10x your land and less population. Also we're not close to possible future focus of conflict. You are very close to Africa and Middle East and shit is brewing

>>127317962
>free collegue

appropriately sums up the problem.

>>127322543
ah... that sounds horrible. then yes it seems it is the only answer, but fuckers don't even take Peronism to mean what it meant anymore, fucking Jewish bankers run shit...

I'd fight in a revolution for mi general

>>127320049
http://www.infobae.com/vidriera/2017/04/28/el-cumpleanos-de-la-reina-isabel-en-la-residencia-del-embajador-britanico/

We have been your puppets ever since the 83.

>>127322613
too bad our scumbag politicians have made 100s of deals with multi corps to sell our stuff, like canadian barrick gold

in fact this is capitalism, as socialism (if nationalist) means the state intervenes to prevent private interest from selling our shit for a dimel. Thats why we need NatSoc

>>127322795
well peronism was inspired by fascism and natsoc, it doesnt really bring anything new to the table

hitler and mussolini were far greater leaders. Peron did some shady stuff too

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>>127322883
>expecting natsoc to ever happen in argentina

>>127323097
no estuvo tan lejos..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1a8sULbzMc

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>>127323228
Ahh good old times, 1938.

Still have a natscoc pin my german grandmother gifted me.

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>>127323228

>>127323526
ya se va a venir

http://www.rionegro.com.ar/bariloche/discriminacion-y-pelea-de-egresados-en-una-disco-BD1036762

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>>127323299
>trust me, we just have to get the guy i like into power, then this time it will work out

the eternal argie strikes again

I like you guys, but if you honestly think you can fix your country by electing the right guy, you're fools. You'll never manage to do it, and even if you do, as soon as said guy dies Argentina will crumble again.

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Isabela Peron, 1974.

Sure she was incompetent as fuck, but this takes some huge balls.

>>127323727
hello southern province

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Please educate me on this.

Why are the Malvinas so important? They look like a couple of tiny islands in the middle of nowhere. Is there oil there? Gold?

>>127323831
Argies are not white desu

Matad a todos los mulatos, mestizos y negros de mierda, el resto vendrá solo y rodado hermanos boludos.

Kill niggers, mestizos and mulatos the rest will come easy.

>>127323727
we need more white population (we are too few, country mostly empty) and more maturing. Only 200 years of history, compared with 1000s in Europe. Still much to learn.

You can't do away with leaders Uru. There will always be a leader. People are still too comfy thats why they don't demand much from the president and eat all their bullshit. Democracy is a sham

>>127324096
IF Argentina was an ethnoState I'd go there to sum up.

>>127323966
Kike apperance!!!!

So what fuck u!

They are spaniards with big ballls, we dont give a shit about your cliches.

>>127324025
After you leave the EU, kick all panchitos and muzzies.

We need Spain guidance.

>>127324096
Not sure how to reconcile that with the achievements of the US, but maybe you're right, let's see how it goes in 800 years.

>>127324238
>We need Spain guidance.
come on, of course t'd be nice to keep good relations with them but its not like you really need any kind of guidance from them

>>127316221
Not just communism...US pressure and cutting export deals against Argentina who was beating the US. Their meat couldn't be exported and they got butt fucked

mestizos ruined this country too, and also ((them)).
mestizos will continue to increase and thus lowering standards for everyone else

>>127318687
>>127318664
lastima que:
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Ber_Gelbard
((funcional al sionismo))
>>127317092
YES i love me some good redpilled argie! one of the most level headed men on this board if i do say so myself

>>127324326
Different people, plus they killed the indians they didn't mix with them. Different mindset, too. Also closer to Europe by sea and more immigration of smart europeans there than here. Usa had race laws for immigration up until the 50s

>>127324238
>We need Spain guidance.
Stop right there negro puto. do you really need 25% unemployment and the degeneracy of their liberals?

>>127324025
ESTOOOOOOO PALABRA SANTA!!!!
ESTOY CANSADO DE VER NEGROS DE MIERDA Y MESTIZOS HACER LO QUE QUIEREN CON ESTE PAIS Y QUE NADIE LES IMPONGA LIMITES.
QUE VUELVAN LOS MILITARES!

>>127319210
Pretty

>>127323060
Peron came back after he was ousted by international Khazarism.

Mussolini and Hitler did not.

Peron is the greatest man at the table when it comes to fascism.

>>127324238
Sapin is resisting the wave for now, but the left now has declared himself antispain, they want to give the independece to Cataluña, by making a new federal Spain without el valle de los caidos and the history of our victory over the comunist scum. They want to make a new islamic Spain.
They are trying to destroy the country and are making his way, everyday a case of corruption erupts in the media and is always the right wing the culprit, hopefully with luck the ISIS will atack us and from that the people will realise that we must "secure the existence of the white people and the white children".

>>127324513
yes i agree with that argie. That nacion mapuche stuff is being directed straight from London, and the military prestige has been destroyed by the lefties cause of the coup d'etat history. A military coup is the only thing that can save this country now, so they kick out all the niggers and jews

>>127324932
Peron didn't have to fight in a fucking world war

>>127324960
>cataluña independence

no chance, amigo

>>127324626
Either the age of the country is an insurmountable problem, or it is not. The US is proof that it is not. Besides Argentina was whiter than the US throughout most of its history and still is today. You had no immigration laws but unlike the US, you didn't need them.
Indians are not your only problem, anyway. Every single white Argentine I've come across is cucked, blames the government for absolutely everything, and either has no plan to fix it, or his plan is to put a magical leader in charge that will somehow solve every problem. Even God couldn't fix Argentina, if Argies don't feel the responsibility to fix it themselves.

Anyway, I don't think this will get anywhere. If there's one thing Argies are good at is coming up with excuses.

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>>127317092
>Also britain please stop funding Mapuche's territory claims.

>>127321555
New Zealand or Australia. Still really traditional. Avoid big cities obviously and seek for the average sized ones.

>>127324096
>we need more white population
so... where on earth will you be getting them from?

>>127321779
Eternal Anglo, 26, software developer, £100k net worth in my house, occasional hunter.

Brb learning Spanish.

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>>127319210
you are trespassing on rightful native american clay you thieves. You know, if there's anything that i would agree with the postmodernists on it'd be white people's (or european's in particular) tendency to take over shit that isn't theirs and say WE DINDU NUFFIN, and proceed to imports literal DINDUS into foreign lands that don't belong to them AT ALL! And yes, I am Jewish. I am proud to fight whites for the oppresses and forlorn.

>>127319210
PATAGONIA IS RIGHTFUL WELSH CLAY

CYMRU AM BYTH

Y WLADFA AM BYTH

>>127316221
explain

>>127325285
you don't know history, thus you talk shit. You cant compare Arg with USA. USA became boss after ww2. You're saying competent Arg could be in USA position now?
Usa always had way more population

PERON PERON, QUE GRANDE SOS

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>>127325685
>If there's one thing Argies are good at is coming up with excuses.

>>127317092
Shouldn't have fucked with the Falklands, Diego.

>>127325525
Europe after shit hits the fan.
Also we need to unbrainwash our ladies so they start making damn babies. Only mestizos are fast reproducing

>>127324238
>We need Spain guidance.
Spain is a lost cause, dude, they are a german colony now.( what a joke because they had a good empire with tons of colonies around the world)

>>127325897
si dale hacete el groso uruguayo tu pais no esta mucho mejor que digamos. Con el gordito zurdo ese que tuvieron años no podes venir a hablar nada, salame

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>>127326070
>If there's one thing Argies are good at is coming up with excuses.

God, I love not being Argentinian

>>127322196
Bullshit.
We have a centralist system based on a port, like a fucking colony 600 years ago.
The system makes that u have to fight the elections in the 3 Main provinces to win. And that is the problem, peronistas hold bs as Sincé forever, fucking bonaerenses and porteños, they practically choose who is to leaf, yet they hiva a fuck about the rest of us.

>>127325538
con 100k libras puedes comprar una casa decente

>>127326233
sin nosotros no sos nada, urugay

>>127320936
Where I live I've never seen a single Jew
Is it really that bad in Argentina?
I'm in Brazil's Midwest by the way

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>>127317092
>Want proof? ALL our politicians from ALL parties gather every year at the british embassy for the queens birthday.
wew lad sounds like the time for a violent revolution

>>127316169
Left wing and socialism politics.

>>127323936
Yeps, oil and plenty of rich sea, that is being robbed right now as we speak while our politicians just firm an acta de desacuerdo twice a year to show their position against it. And the fucking retards thinks thats something...

>>127323936

P-please respond...

>>127326503
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country#Table

>>127326597
fucking google it

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>>127325071
because he bid his time better

im not saying that they're not all good, but peron was a good man...

>>127323936
Billions of $$$ worth of oil. Though Argentina didn't know this when they invaded, it's just a political issue because it unites the nation. Oil was only confirmed to such an extent like 10 years ago.

They're also not that tiny desu.

>>127321779
Wait, how can I get a job in Patagonia? I'm White, moderately wealthy, have a college degree, and speak pretty good Spanish

>>127319210
Indigenous peoples there blocked roads and wouldn't let tourists leave awhile back. They were protesting the cost of heating fuel or some shit like that.

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Argentina is shit and there only export is shitty soccer players to Eourope/.

fuck off

>>127316221
and anglos, fucking jews

>>127326695
Well that's fucked
Were did you guys got them from?
And
Why not just maximize grain production while giving incentives to industry and cutting some wellfare
Maybe kill some commies during the night and protests ?
You guys seem white enough to be something in the future

>>127319029
wtf, the astillero rio santiago was founded by peron

are argies white?

>>127326906
what degree

>>127316307
well they had 40% annual inflation recently

>>127317092
well while montoneros was being fiananced by rockefeller through cuba, the dictatorships were financed by kissinger through martinez de hoz

so they are all the same (left and right) we need a strong nationalist movement

>>127327238
jew'd to the max

>>127327234
Economy with a minor in Development

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>>127316169

SEX JUNK Is what happened to Argentina...OH Oh Oh

>>127327380
what actually happened?

>>127327554
learn good spanish and you're good i guess. Just dont fuck more our economy, dont import stuff, etc

>>127325349
U cunts.

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>>127316169

>>127324025
Why does it take so much more words for Spanish (or any Romance language, for that matter) to state something than for English to do so? Are you guys really that primitive?

>>127327634
too many people getting loans

>>127316169
Third World mentality will get you every time. No matter what natural resources you have.

>>127327633
so many why(s)

>>127327554
Help argentine politicians launder money and move it out of the country. It's the most profitable thing you can do there, by far. You'll make 10 times what >>127327746
makes, with a tenth of the effort.

>>127327746
My Spanish is already pretty good. My accent is really the only thing that needs work + niche conjugations that aren't used very often. A more accurate term for my degree would be Developmental economics, and I'm trained for more city/town oriented development, nothing national/overtly macro.

>>127327919
No, he didn't used all words for translation, tard.

It is:

Kill all the mulatos, mestizos and niggers of shit, the rest will come alone and rolling, bigballs brothers (boludos its like a friendly insult)

We simplify it for your simple burger minds

>>127326233
uruguayos resentidos son todos mestizos como yao cabrera tomatelá negrito inferior
>>127326852
he was not retard, he was corrupt as fuck
didnt hesitate to lean left when he was exiled
literally a betraying piec of shit

>>127327360
the military didnt really pander to the jews however, look at what theyve done to the generals and all, they have wrongly jailed them

>>127327919
His translation into English isn't literal, he skipped a few words like todos=all

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>>127328206
Then look for a town in Patagonia and settle. Whats preventing you?
Just dont racemix pls

>>127317092

ETERNAL ANGLO INTENSIFIES

>>127328389
Not finding a job is what would prevent me.

I'd never racemix. Not even with a mestizo unless she was crazy beautiful and conservative.

Spanish speaking whites are hot as fuck. I lived 3 years in Spain, they are top tier.

>>127328276
yeah he always leaned left

it was argentinian Baathism, what was ur problem?

>>127321555
We're looking at what is absolute Tyranny when it comes to this. There is NO reason to have open borders like this. The quotas should be reinstituted so it will cut down on extreme. It's Tyranny because ever mother fucking politician is pushing the agenda UNDER THE PRETEXT of diversity. But, no, we're bigots? This is case study GasLighting.

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>>127324420

Trade spats certainly didn't help, but the greater issue was a string of socialist governments that debased the currency, ran up huge debts, defaulted on them, and repeated the process ad nauseum for 60 years.

Now nobody in their right mind invests in Argentina because they know the Argentine government will nationalize their shit the moment they run into fiscal issues. Which they do all the time because they can't manage their currency properly.

>>127316169
Key word
>was

>>127316169
Uruguay.

>>127325549
lmao. Yeah jews like to say whites are colonizing imperialists but they follow them everywhere they colonize

>>127323936
>Why are the Malvinas so important?
Because they are fucking ours and we will never give up no matter what, our time will come eventually.
The Jews got Israel 2000 years after being expelled. We can wait another century or more.
If you disagree you are not a nationalist and you might as well move to England and work as knob polisher.

>>127328647
get in contact with some companies. send some curriculum. use the internet and your knowledge of spanish. good luck.

btw, you'll learn half or less of what you earn in usa when converted to dollars. If I were you I'd make more money there then move with a big chunk here and buy or invest.

>>127328778
It's not mismanagement, it's institutionalized theft. Most argentines are economic illiterates. You can tell them to their face that they're being stolen from and explain to them how, they won't understand and they won't care. They won't change the system, investigate properly, and make sure it doesn't happen again, they will simply oust the current president and put the guy they like to continue stealing the same way. They're literally fine with corruption and theft, as long as it's the guy they like doing it.
My theory is that the Argentine upper class just lost sympathy for them because they honestly don't care and have no intention of fixing anything, so they just play along and continue to steal from them. If you try to help them they will kick you out because that would prevent their side from stealing in the future.

>>127316169
I think Venezuela was even better, not sure
>What went wrong?
corruption ofc, but they blame Spain instead

Wow! Esto és Uruguay? Solo veo una gente que suenã ser europea.

>>127329326
You can't fix niggers , urubro.

>>127328778
we dont need your fake paper money "investments", yank

we need hard working intelligent argentinian building the fucking country up and removing all scum

>>127329605
No me jodas màs , no somos latinos.

>>127329300
Always invest. Most of millenials are to dumb to take advantage of this. Basically they suffer globalization in their daily life but don't realize that as soon as they have some savings they should "multiply" this sum in a low value currency country and invest the shit out of it in order to stop being a wageslave as soon as possible.

Was looking for South East Asia myself but Argentina seems more comfy.

>>127329742
Good luck getting scammed I guess.

>>127329326
>My theory is that the Argentine upper class just lost sympathy for them because they honestly don't care and have no intention of fixing anything, so they just play along and continue to steal from them. If you try to help them they will kick you out because that would prevent their side from stealing in the future.

i think you are in the right track sadly, the upper classes here are completly detacched from reality, and they don´t give a fuck about anything and as you say the middle and lower classes are very dumb and vulgar.

Son latinos como todos nosotros, por esto, seguiendo tu logica, muchos brasileños pueden decirse Italianos y Libaneses ya que muchos acá son descendientes destos dos pueblos lejanos.

>>127329950
You unironicaly think Eastern Europe ( Latvian ?) is better ?

>>127329982
the young upper class is extreme of this, really detacched. When the older ones retire and this shitheads start running things the country will go to shit. They'll take what they can and run to usa or europe

>>127322882
Estos hijos de puts me Dan una bronca!

>>127320591
sshht remember Lepanto and 1912, Emre

>>127329742
yes thats kind of my plan. Its hard to save money here cause of taxes and inflation. Its best to earn it in usa/europe then invest smart

>>127322882
WTF the '''British''' ambassador looks like a some sort of weird turbo-kike hybrid.

It was only at the tenth picture where I think 'finally someone who looks like a bong'.
>mfw he's the American ambassador

>>127330169
No, you're probably getting scammed there too if you're a foreigner just wanting "to invest" who doesn't have trusted local contacts, and I really mean trusted. More in the non-EU countries like Serbia of course, somewhat less in the EU countries.

You'll have the court system against you, the corruption against you, if someone wants to take your money and not do anything they promised, you're most likely shit out of luck, as they can prolong court proceedings (if it ever even comes to that) indefinitely.

What kind of an investment did you have in mind? The only relatively safe thing is buying property and renting it out, but that's not much of an investment.

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At least you still have population growth.

JAJAJA! Hablaré en Español limpio que usted son latinoamericanos como cualquier persona

>>127316169
Catholicism.

>>127330311
>the young upper class is extreme of this, really detacched
man you don´t have any idea of this , i go to a private university and is full of people this, they all spew the same noeliberal talking points, and they all speak of getting the fuck out the country.
the chicks are hot, though.

>>127329982
I've worked in K money laundering operations myself. I've told a couple argentines about this, I explained how they do it, they didn't give a fuck. It seems like it's not the theft that bothers them, it's just the fact that it's not their guy doing the stealing.

>>127326998
>Be German
>Go to wars with Anglos
>decades later Germans on pol curse the anglos

>Be Argentina
>Go to war with Anglos
>decades later Argentinians on pol curse Anglos

When will the world learn?

>>127316169
Italians, duh.

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>>127330690
Stop using google translator you monkey. I can't understand shit

>>127330075
Quieren hacerme creer estos cretinos que los uruguayos somos latinos. Si me viera mi abuelito Arsenio cantando con acento caribeño. Yo no digo "ia está listo el poio", Ni "frijoles" ni "arroio" "ierba", "iuio" ni "io io"

No me jodan más , no somos latinos Yo me crié acà en la suiza del sur.

>>127330660
how many of that growth is shitskins?

a true graph with race wouldnt be that good lookin

>>127330622
Running a bar or restaurant or hostel for stupid backpackers, mostly. Can't see myself investing in something bigger.

>>127322883
MAPLE'D

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>>127330660
Man, those fertile Peruvian wombs sure are paying off.

Guess we'll have to raise taxes again uhh!

>>127330690
En Colombia me decían gringo , o alemán en Santo Domingo. Ni en Honduras , Panamá y Venezuela el Uruguay ni saben donde queda.

Prefiero hablar con un filósofo sueco , que con un indio guatemalteco, y tengo más en común con un rumano que con un cholo boliviano.

>>127330758
yes upper class chicks are damn hot but thats almost everywhere

those upper class whites should become extreme nationalist not neoliberal pussies, thats the problem.

>>127331067
thanks leaf. enjoy the gold

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>>127330859
More like
>Be German
>Do well
>Well we can't have that goy!
>Proceed to lie to stupid dumb anglos about their saxon brothers.
>Anglos follow their masters like good fucking giys and fuck up everything.

The retarded French are also to blame, especially fur what happened after WW1, but they are paying the toll rather nicely.

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>>127331372

>>127331220
>those upper class whites should become extreme nationalist not neoliberal pussies, thats the problem.

yeah, thats the problem bro they don´t have a reason fort they party all day, and they have rich expensive lifestyle they live like kings basically, why they would sacrifice all of that?.

no way man, they are to selfish to do that.

>>127330941
Carajo cuanta negación de su propria naturaleza. Esto és feo no lo hace más.

>>127331776
And then they cry when some paco nigger kills them at night on the streets.

>>127331040
I see, I would consider that as investing in property, as far as safety goes, but you have to take into account that most people who do for example AirBnB or hostel stuff, got the property itself for free through inheritance or somehow combined finances from selling other inherited properties to buy that one, unless you do 110% of the work yourself, you might not even recoup the initial investment before your life situation changes in some way that you have to sell the business or move somewhere else or whatever.

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>Muh Malvinas

You niggers never owned them and you stained your entire nation and pathetic history by acting like Brazilians towards the British.

>But muh Spanish land heritage

Spain had no control over the island at the time, so boo hoo.

>But muh Argentine garrison

That was such a fucking huge disaster that it ended in a mutiny and Britain had to sort it out for you like an Adult. Also doesn't help the Garrison was technically not even part of the Argie government at the time.

Your nation and your "people" are fucking worthless and your limited history is a joke that no nationalist would take even the tiniest amount of pride in.

What I'm trying to say is, if you're Argentinian, neck yourself.

P.S. you can't cook steak worth shit.

>>127330690
>Español
in spanish the names of the languages aren't write with capital letters
>limpio
I think you want to say claro
>Puedo Hablar un español mas *claro que usted y que cualquier *latinoamericano
*claro, yo utilizaría correcto pero claro tambien vale
*latinoamericano es un termino frances y tambien incluye a Brasil y Guayana, es mejor utilizar hispanoamericano para referirse solo a las excolonias españolas en America

>>127331966
No me hagas poner arisco , yo no quiero ir al show de Don Francisco. Y piensan los yanquis y los europeos que somos un país bananero con palmeritas y calor.

No me jodan más no somos latinos.

>>127330660
lol fucking mestizos and bolivians booming

>>127331776
when taxes for welfare are too high, THEN they'll care

when every corner there is a nigger wanting to rob them, THEN they'll care

may be too late by then

>>127332176
where is your ex-argie gf?

>>127332195
Gracias

>>127331966
por tu logica si un negro nace en europa es europeo?
que seas mestizo no quiere decir que todos estemos en tu misma condición, los blancos somos europeos, ustedes son mestizos/latinos.

>>127330821
Give me details
NOW

>>127332304

>Argies in Denmark

They fucking wish.

>>127331982
>And then they cry when some paco nigger kills them at night on the streets.

YES, i remember when trump ascended to the presidency they cried and bitched that he was racist against mexicans, and then the same people would turn their heads and talk shit about the city being full of niggers when they go to the club a friday night.

>>127332176
Tiráte un paso.

>>127332474
i'll be there soon my danish friend ;)

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@127332176
Somebody wants a (you)

>>127317962
That doesn't explain much. Too much welfare spending didn't hold the European countries back.

I know that more recently your economy's been trashed by your government's attempts to maintain a fixed exchange rate against the US Dollar. But that doesn't explain the original decline.

Was it due to mismanagement of nationalized industries?

>>127332591
lmao

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>>127316169


>Following President Juan Perón's enactment of women's suffrage in 1949, First Lady Evita Perón led the Peronist Women's Party until her death in 1952, and helped enhance the role of women in Argentine society.

WHAT COULD HAVE GONE WRONG?!

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>>127332591

>>127332408
Callate mestizo!

>>127316169
Probably Jews.

>>127316169
Argentinians .... Mostly all the Migration came from SOUTHERN EUROPE....damaged goods with North African genes

>>127332541

I don't speak nigger Spanish, friendo.

Or regular Spanish for that matter.

>>127316169

>Peron

Socialism is bad folks

>>127332998
Eh rubio , ame á plata o t mato.

>>127332492
Usted son hijos de esclavos y esclavas. No quieren reconocer esto y vienen con su CONTO de que habrá linaje pura solo porque tienen color blanca.

>>127332848
Yo no se bailar ni cumbia ni salsa ni me escapé de Cuba en una balsa. Me parió en Montevideo mi mami yo no quiero ir a vivir a Miami.

>>127332747
Unions having wayy to much power + Menem joining with the truck union to literally destroy our entire railway system (everything so expensive to move around in trucks now) + Caballo who was part of the trilateral comision + too many worker rights + uncontrolled mestizo migration.

50% of the population doesn't work, that includes old people though.


We also have around 7% gdp deficit, and our supposed "right wing" moderate socialist president isn't reducing spending at all to win this year mid-term election so he instead is taking massive amounts of debt.

It's all fucked up and in 2019 or 2023 our council of foreign relations good boy puppet Massa will continue to destroy this country.

Nothing will be left in 50 years.

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>>127332408
>los blancos somos europeos
no, los españoles o europeos nacidos en America son criollos, en el siglo XVII principios del XIX eran una "casta" inferior a los nacidos en Europa, no podian acceder a determinados cargos y estaban directamente controlados por España, no por los españoles de a pie por supuesto pero eran un rango inferior a los españoles, es en gran parte por esto por lo que aprovecharon la invasion francesa y se dieron las revueltas en las colonias

>>127333444
JAJAJAJA! Usted que salió de una balsa de HAITI

>>127333578
>siglo XVII
siglo XVIII principios del XIX

>>127333252
Qué esclavos? negro inmundo. Ustedes eran esclavos jaja.
Habrá linaje puro si ha de sobrevivir la civilizacion en sudamérica, de otra manera reinará la barbarie.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/01/60-killed-beheaded-grisly-brazil-prison-riot-170102185216472.html

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>>127333578
>Castizo con Español, Español.

>>127333578
Eso, un poco de historia para aprender estos malparidos

>>127332043
Thank you for caring anon. Dully noted !

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RISE UP

SAY BASTA DE UNA VEZ PUTOS

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jjgqjkGmX-c

Vote PSR

>>127333833
that's only related to race no with the birth place

>>127333674
Eguro , Ansina.

Uruguaios a gozal https://youtu.be/WXrVUZZ5Ing

>>127333578
Qué importa la casta o rango del siglo XVII, racialmente gran parte somos blancos. La mayoria de la inmigracion de todas formas fue a finales de siglo XIX principios del XX y no solo de España.
Los que no se han mezclado con nativos son racialmente identicos a cualquier Europeo.

>>127332415
Fine, but no specifics since I value my life. Maybe stuff you already knew. Either way you're an Argie so you probably won't care.
K had this (((protectionist))) system where they promised to ((protect local industry)) by limiting imports and having preferential exchange rates. The truth is they used this entire system to steal: the few people able to import had to get government permits, which were only handed to friends. Then they agreed on stuff like, you can import X, which costs 10 anywhere else, at 20. So send 20, spend 10 in the product, and leave the other 10 in a bank somewhere (that's where I came in). This is further exacerbated by the fact that importers did get preferential exchange rates (Basically bought the dollar at half price), so just getting 10 bucks in preferential USD half of the country, basically doubled the amount of pesos you had (Then you can keep it/invest it overseas or bring it back, change it for almost twice the pesos you spent first, and repeat).
The people who did this most often were people who exported, because it's easier for them to get import permits; so in the end it was often companies that looked like they helped your country, fucking you hardest.
They also disguised this process through (((national industry))), for example, say you have friends in the government and tell them you want to set up a dildo factory, you negotiate import permits for some of the supplies, so if you bought raw dyes or plastic overseas, you did this process again, stole from people, and both the company and K showed the public they were being good and producing locally. If dildos were 20 and the plastic was 15, globally, they bought plastic at 30 and sold dildos at 50, while people cheered for local industry. They also had the perfect excuse of ((protecting the local dildo company)) by blocking foreign dildos, the truth is they had to do this, otherwise people would just buy foreign dildos at 20 instead of ((local)) ones at 50.

>>127334142
Comprende hombre. Color no importa. Tambien tengo pele branca, pero mismo asi em mi linaje tienen negros

>>127334208
yes yes fake nationalists. what argie doesn't know this by now? at least browing pol ...

>>127316221
This. What Perón started to destroy was euthanized by the Kirchners

>>127334142
ofc, but you can't claim be European, nowadays if you go to Spain you would be like the average peruvian unless you come from the Canary islands that speaks somehow like you, I really don't give a fuck, and yes, the race is white european

>>127334351
Si importa, tonto. La raza determina la capacidad, modo y profundidad de pensamiento. Como se ven tus fabelas eh? Mucho blanquito por ahi seguro ajajaj

>>127316169
Perón

>>127332747
Yuros got rich b4 they started with this gibs bs. Argentina didnt so they declined faster

>>127334208
This is just a simple explanation, btw. It got a lot more creative, the jews are really fucking genies when it comes to stealing/laundering money. In most cases it was hidden in plain sight and it was made to look like they were helping the country and the local industry, people actually believed it (even macriists/nationalists/natsocs). It was masterful, really, stealing from people while people cheered for them.

There are a couple other ways of doing it which I won't say because that's still being used by Macri & Co (in case you thought they are better -they're not), and I don't want to get in trouble.

>>127334655
I really sympathize with you, I just think you're falling for their tricks with your centralism, their protecting local industry, etc. Those are all ((their)) tools, and even redpilled people don't seem to understand how they're used. You know there are false nationalists but you don't know how to identify them, and trust me, they are everywhere.

>>127334871
Su pensamiento és todo lo que ye leído de las pseudociencias del siglo XIX. Capacidad, fuerza, inteligencia, és por persona, color no cambia su resultado.

>>127334862
wtf? i lived in spain for years and nobody knew i was argie until i told them, cause i even learnt to perfectly mimic your accent.

you dont know shit. Plenty of whites in South america.

Btw Argies were the only country (that Im aware of) in the americas to have a muslim president, a major islamic terror attack, they have the largest muslim population in latin america and are importing more. Their constitution is also so cucked that it includes open borders

>>127321555
if a bunch of niggers and mudslimes can kick you out of your own country what makes you less shit than everyone else

>>127333578
mis abuelos vinieron en 1918 al finalizar la primer guerra, no se mezclaron con ninguna lacra mestiza.
los criollos eran los que "ya estaban", los mestizos, hijos de españoles con ""argentinos"" nativos.
repito, siguiendo tu logica un africano nacido en suecia es nordico. saludos

>>127335124
ofc because we don't know how an argie talks, we don't know Valdano Maradona or Di Stéfano, even Messi that has been here for decades still speak with the Argentinian accent

>>127335002
lol. see that example you said, imagine the guy gives 20 for buying 10, instead of the other 10 ending in some foreign bank account it is reserved in a pool for the specific type of product being importing, so that it can, with the addition of private capital, be invested in actual arg industry to slowly reduce imports. Thats nationalism. I know who isn't a true nationalist if he has any kind of marxist thinking, or deals with or is a jew. The K were marxist (((nationalist))), only braindead idiots thought they were actual nationalists.

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>>127325650

Almost all Latin American countries had brutal developmental periods, even surpassing the USA some in economically part, but all ended the same, a period of socialism (Usually accompanied by dictatorships of many types of ideological cut, but economically all the same), collapse and eternal shit,

The only one that escaped them was Chile (Thanks to the United States realized and avoided a socialist government) and is currently at the level of Portugal or Spain.

Well, with the exception of Colombia, that country was always shit even though it never had a left-wing government (There power alternates between extreme right and right there), you to get the idea when you know El Salvador before the Second World War was richer than Denmark...

>>127335633
>criollos
Criollo es un americanismo que se empleó desde la época de la colonización de América aplicándolo a los nacidos en el continente americano, pero con un origen europeo.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criollo
saludos

>>127335681
i went when young and learned to speak it almost flawlessly. Yes some realised i was not from spain, but only after talking. Which means racially there is no difference from European, and im not a fine example there are many many people in SA who look whiter than half your country.

>>127335924
but I told you that the race is European lad

I know a total of 2 Argentineans and both are Jews, go figure.

>>127335844
da igual, me han confundido por español, no me interesan los mestizos ni su "cultura", ni me siento criollo.
un descendiente de españoles en argentina es criollo, pero si es descendiente de otra etnia europea que no sea española entonces es europeo? que es? , por qué no se aplica el mismo termino a los blancos norteamericanos?
saludos

>>127316169
miscegenation and communism

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>>127335781
>Chile
>Level of Portugal or Spain

lol maybe for 10-15% of population

>>127335686
Yes, but do you know names, companies, banks? Do you know the exactly way that it is done, to prevent it from happening in the future?
Also, Macri isn't Marxist and he's doing something similar.

You think you can go natsoc and protect the local industry by having non marxist nationalist policies, whatever the fuck that means, I honestly doubt it. They will steal from you and laugh in your face.

>>127336009
then what makes whites in SA not European apart from the fact of not being born in Europe?
your Criollo system of the fucking XVII century?

>>127336157

No es ni malo ni bueno, es como ser de Cuenca, solo significa europeos nacidos en America, si todos los descendientes de europeos en hispanoamerica son criollos, luego una vez se mezclan ya no, pasan a ser mestizos mulatos o lo que sea

>>127336181
>miscegenation and communism
This with the fact the former resulted in the latter.

>>127317962
>>127317092
you tried to describe argentina but you came close to describing turkey too

>>127336181
Yes, it's

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>>127334208

Well isn't this a not surprise
Shame on you,filthy criminal
I cant trust anybody

>>127336463
de todas formas el termino se dejó de usar para los europeos llegados luego de la epoca de Sarmiento (mediados del siglo 19 en adelante). cuando la gente dice criollo se refiere generalmente a un mestizo y no a un blanco argentino de padres europeos, con ese significado te lo enseñan en el colegio.
"no era blanco, era criollo" es lo que nos quieren hacer creer de muchos de los próceres

>>127336481
Olá, muito raro portugueses e brasileiros por aqui

>>127336237
Give us some names

>>127336237
Macri is neo-liberal, aka classic capitalism, which sells our resources and industry. It screws us too.

Sadly to avoid being stolen from with the import stuff we have to reduce demand of needlessly shit people love to buy. Standard of living must drop until the necessary industry is developed. Argie techs and engineers are very good but many of them end up working outside the country.

>>127335107
Deciles ESO a los afrikanos

>>127336334
the race is white european if they don't mix with other races, but because the born placce they are criollos, wich means that they are white european and born there, the problem is that back then all the upper class of criollos in the late XVIII was ruled directly from Spain and they can't get higth positions in charge, like almost all Spain, were ruled by a few spaniards, and also the born in Spain had preference over the born in America for few things

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>>127316169
We lost our way and became communist.

>>127336650
No és lo que quieren hacerte creer, solo lo que és

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>>127337051
that poster gives me the feels man.

>>127336964
yes yes that was in the XVIII century but we are in XXI century now. So you still consider them criollos and a level below those born in Europe, even though they are the same race?
You better start sympathizing more with SA, at least with the whites here. Remember when you had rough times, many of you came running here.

>>127319029
you can't 'develop' heavy industry from the state, it comes from the private sector and you need decades of economic and political stability for people to even think about making an investment with long term returns. No wonder we have like 5 times our GDP offshores or under the mattress, people don't trust the economy.
People that love to blame Peron for everything forget he got his ass coup'd or forget all the fuck ups from 76 onwards (inflation).

>>127337051
when did integration of natives begin?

>>127337279
Españoles o peninsulares
Los españoles nacidos en la península Ibérica que vinieron a América tenían dentro de la colonia los mayores privilegios y estaban autorizados a asumir los cargos más importantes del gobierno y de la administración; también tenían derecho a la más alta jerarquía eclesiástica y del ejército.

Aunque, en general, los españoles no provenían de la nobleza peninsular, era frecuente que accedieran a títulos nobiliarios menores (como el que les confería el título de “hidalgos”) por sus servicios a la Corona en las Indias.

Entre los españoles existían grupos que se diferenciaban por su origen en a península Ibérica: por ejemplo, la empresa colonizadora y conquistadora estuvo mayoritariamente en manos de los castellanos, más tarde llegaron al continente los catalanes y los mallorquines para organizar empresas comerciales.

También se distinguían por su fortuna, o por su lugar en la economía o la administración colonial: por ejemplo, los encomenderos eran un grupo que, entre los españoles, tenían identidad propia y solían actuar defendiendo sus intereses.

>>127337279
Los criollos
Su nombre proviene del portugués “criullo”, que significa “negro criado en la casa del señor”; se llamaba así a los descendientes de españoles nacidos en América. inicialmente, su número era muy reducido y participaban de algunas de las empresas económicas coloniales y de ciertos espacios en la administración colonial.

Los criollos eran parte del grupo privilegiado por tratarse de “hombres blancos”, aunque no siempre lo eran realmente, dada la frecuencia de los cruces de sangre entre españoles y aborígenes. De todas maneras, no podían acceder a los cargos más altos de la administración colonial, reservados para los españoles nacidos en Europa.

La existencia misma del criollo ya definía en sí una categoría humana muy especial: era activo, celoso del español, al que ridiculizaba o cuya importancia intentaba atenuar y tenía un amor indudable a la tierra donde había nacido.

Esta discriminación fue motivo de crecientes conflictos que se multiplicaban en la medida en la que la población criolla crecía en número y exigía derechos similares a los españoles.

>>127336624
I didn't steal it myself, yhey also didn't tell me to my face that they steal, it became evident with time. I'm as much of a criminal as the guy that drove K to places where she stole, and certainly less of a criminal than 99% of the argies that are willing accomplices of this. Also, I used to care a bit, but now I honestly do not. 99% of Argentinians don't care, it's not really stealing if they consent, and they do passively consent.
I can't do this in Uruguay for example, first because it's harder and second because they know I used to have a right wing political affiliation, they're afraid that I would leak (and they would be right). Argentines also know this, but they don't care because they know I won't risk my job and neck to help you guys, especially because if I said this 5 years ago the reaction would be:
K's won't believe me/care
Macriists will rage and ask that Macri is allowed to steal instead of K,
and "redpilled" people will delude themselves thinking they would manage to keep a similar system but somehow prevent corruption.

>>127336875
No capitalist country worth it's salt does what Macri is doing with the currency and imports. Call him whatever you like, but if you think he's really a capitalist then you don't understand what he's doing and won't be able to stop ((them)) even if you were president.

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>>127329691

Money makes the world go round. Foreign companies and nationals invest in the United States all the time. They do this because they know we won't steal their investment. That we have strong rule of law. Laws that are clear and not arbitrary.

When I said nobody invests in Argentina, I was not saying "Americans" won't invest in Argentina. The word was NOBODY. As in everyone in the world does not invest in Argentina. Because there is no guarantee you won't steal the investment.

For that matter, Argentinians don't invest in Argentina for the same reason. They send their money to the United States and invest in DoW Chemicals or General Motors instead.

test

What happened was

The war on drugs
Monroe doctrine
Bad governors

Venezuela, México and Argentina had a gdp per capita similar to Denmark Finland or Sweden back in the day but our currency lost its value and the war on drugs fucked up everything fucking Colombians

>>127337432
"Con la Ley de Emigración de 1907 se hizo la emigración ultramarina masiva de españoles a América. Una nueva ley de 1924 permite la creación de ayudas estatales y los convenios con los países receptores."

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emigraci%C3%B3n_espa%C3%B1ola

Y tu sigues hablandome de la conquista, madre mía...

>>127337464
Haciendo una pequeña corrección la palabra és "crioulo"

>>127337279
>>127336964

Why are both of you dumb fucks discussing criollos when the criollo population was blown out of relevancy after the second big wave of European immigration in the country?

>>127321555
>french file name
>irish
So, you're one of those fabled Dublin Irish elite then?

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>>127337520
I would personally rid this cancer out of my homeland
But I am merely a single man
Is there really no way out of it?
Ever since the redpill,everything seems so hopeless

>mfw mom and dad are ultra K fanatics
Fuck me,give me some names,

>>127337568
yeah no wonder, we have dow chemical in the port here, two mcdonalds and a walmart. Your fucking corps are all over the place. Good job, feel proud USA?

>>127337848
cause the spanish tard keeps thinking in XVII century terms, completely ignoring the massive emigration wave of spanish towards america in XX century

>>127317962
I know a guy working as a hotel maintenance man in Miami who was a dentist back in Argentina. Your degrees aren't worth shit here.

>>127337793
I'm telling you from where that thing comes and what means, ofc nowadays you have the more rigths than the spaniards there, just like wtf we sould mess with your country, but tell that you are European citizen only because you have the european race is also a mistake, some of you can claim the nationality if you have spaniard blood in 3 generations or less I think but you arent European or spaniards anymore, your grandparents were, you are Europeans born there wich is a different thing

>>127327919
lol that's not how language works kid

>>127338026
If you want famous people, you already know them. All K's at the top level were involved, particularly the customs and banking people who approved imports and special exchange rate for important entrepreneurs.
If you want the names of the company owners that did this, sorry, I don't want to die. Besides, you probably never heard of any of them, and never will.

If you want my opinion, understand what they are doing first, and prevent them from doing it forever. Macri is already getting rid of some of them, for example, but that doesn't matter because new people are taking their place. It's not about getting rid of ((them)), it's about not giving them the tools to operate.

>>127338056
Yes

>>127338358
There are many working for usa companies from here. Also many argies working in usa. STEM at least is valued

>>127338700
Well American medicine (and who can practice it) is very tightly controlled by the Jews, so that may have something to do with it.

Argentina could be great again if:

Helicopter rides for commies.

Helicopter rides for niggers and Indians.

Seriously, it'd work.

>>127330930
>chile
>having a hard time understanding others
oh the irony

>>127337760
>Monroe doctrine
Fucking spare me. The Monroe doctrine didn't cause them to go through 2 trillion coups and counter-coups. They did that shit all on their own.

>>127338510
why is it a different thing if only difference is location?
what if grandpa is spanish, married another spanish, son married another spanish born girl and a dude was born. The dude is not the same to you? If he moved to Europe lived for years and talk to you, you wouldnt even notice.

>>127316169
Jews hyperinflated the economy several times.

>>127321281
in 40s or 50s we werent under jewish influence, in year 66 our honorable president illia banned Rockefeller from Argentina

>>127338056

Why yes we do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79DijItQXMM

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>>127327919
English > Spanish

Spanish from Spain > Other Spanish

desu senpai

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>>127338693
Good goy. Too bad you're not in the big club.

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>>127332826
>filename

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>>127338662
Alright anon
I'm taking your words as silver,since everything else is borderline propaganda and disinformation
At least I have a new point of view on the subject matter
I'll make sure to studie the tools and operations, whenever I can

One day I'll see her clean,ridden of the poison that has shattered our hopes & dreams

>>127339132
really? i had a feeling he had done something good. He looks kikeish though..

>>127338693
You should cultivate humility instead of weed.

>>127339477
oops, italian, that explain the nose lol

>>127317092
>Invade the Falklands coz muh Malvinas
>Get arsefucked by the britbong army
>Still be mad years later because some insignificant intervention in your country side
t. Eternal Argento

>>127339055
Cultural difference.

>>127316169
I thought Argentina is still in pretty good shape? Like way better than any other country in Latin America

>>127339552
says the uruguay. legal weed lol

>>127339835
ahem

>>127339055
Maybe for somebody that don't speak spanish you could looks like us but not for us, maybe your sons could be like us, but not you, even with the citizenship and in most cases you will be with the Perubians Colombians Ecuatorians and the average metizo from there, remember that we are the spaniards that didn't move from Spain

>>127339865
dude

lmao

>>127339379
"Pero sos un sorete"

>>127339920
lol, you are an idiot and probably have never interacted with a white south american. When i lived there nobody treated me as peruvian or colombian, in fact we laughed together and called "sudaca" to a peruvian schoolmate of ours. When the peruvian got mad at me i just said 'im joking dude im sudaca too' while thinking to myself 'no im not like you lol'

>>127334939
We also had controlled borders for the start of it. Now that we don't, we're heading down the same road.

>>127339898
Lol sorry anon I don't know much about Uruguay. Probably shouldn't speak on this stuff

>>127339597
https://youtu.be/i8jZz_QawBg

>>127339467
I hope it helps. Few people care

Be wary of people who want to protect your economy. I know it sounds stupid to tell you not to protect it, but keep in mind EVERY argentine wants to protect it. Who wouldn't? So if you are a jew, you take advantage of that.

I mean, what those people did is not even really illegal (they did illegal stuff sometimes out of greed, but technically they would be able to steal in a 100% legal way). It's a normal consequence of their policies. Think about it, if they do help national industry, what stops the national industries from overcharging? You'd have to have price control. But that just means that they have to split what they steal with the government. You are not "national industry", it's rich factory owners. Helping them is not helping you.

>>127340328
yes I work with Perubians, Moroccans and guy from Colombia and a couple of Argies, I live in Spain I have a cutie from Medellin as neighbor, sadly they are more proud of your country than you