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This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination.
Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists.
Anybody else is welcome to debate us.
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/lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too.
Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists.
All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us.
>PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A
FAQ:
>Do you support open borders?
No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens.
>Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads?
The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money.
>Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour?
No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society.
>Are you Jewish?
No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck.
>What will you do when governments take over you/reform?
Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!
RECOMMENDED READING LIST:
ECONOMY
>The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith
>A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say
>The Law by Fréderic Bastiat
>The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek
>The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe
>Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard
>Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell
POLITICS
>Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe
>Second Treatise of Government by John Locke
>Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick
>For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard
>Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell
MEDIA:
GOOD TIER
>facebook com/MinarchyMemes - sometimes posts edgy stuff
>facebook com/LibertyHangout - adamant fighters against communism
>facebook com/theliveshowtv - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast
>youtube com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T
GREAT TIER
>facebook com/HoppeanSnakeMemes - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd
>youtube com/user/FreedomFighter631 - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda
>youtube com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content
>youtube com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right
>1stirregulars com - 1st Irregulars' main site
>youtube com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux
Have a phone background, ancaps
And one for my minarchist bros
VIDEOS:
>Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU
>Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w
>Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo
>Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U
>Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE
>Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI
>Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c
>1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw
>That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8
>>127228401
just join the syndicate
>>127228849
>>127228895
Thanks, B.
How's the aiborne oven project going? If you're the chief, that is.
Fuck you and your false ideology
>>127229012
Kill yourself, it's free.
>>127229145
Zadrhni sa knedľou, kokot.
>>127229109
Not me, sorry.
>>127229012
>Just give up your property rights
>mfw
>>127229145
>>127229275
Forgot pic
>>127229305
mfw property is theft
>>127229275
Liberalism and Lolbertarianism are two most corrupt ideologies ( right after communism ) based on amorality and rejection of the collective
Oy vey goyim of course we dont want free flow of capital and workforce.
>>127228622
>Jeffrey Tucker not in literal faggot tier
it's tucker time fgt
>>127229386
Stirnerites get out reeeeee
>>127229536
>libertarian is bad because it isn't collectivist
>communism is bad too
Pick one
>>127229386
Nobody owns anything unless they make a claim. Therefore, property is theft from no-one, literally the opposite of actual theft.
>>127229536
>hates communism
>makes fun of people for rejection of the collective
c'mon man
>>127229386
do you have any idea how contradictory that statement is?
>>127229814
Communism is bad because it's economical endgame is beyond unrealistic and denies basic facts of human psychology - also denies economical self sustainability for the individual
I hate libs and libts because they deny existance of any and every collective there is - they don't give a shit about family, laws for them is just something they wanna universally repeal, they love drugs, hate AoC, etc.
>>127230000
Noice quads
Read above
>>127229536
>amorality
Nothing more immoral than using force against people who aren't doing anything wrong, i.e. taxing them simply because they produce.
>collective
We acknowledge that division of labour and economy of scale mean that people thrive in communities and not alone. We also don't lie to ourselves about the fact that man's mind cannot be broken as easily as his body, so we let people associate with whomever they wish. This results in conservative, White, traditional communities thriving and in libcuck ancom shitholes dying because they deserve it.
Putting liberalism and libertarianism anywhere close one another after 1900 is a sign of early dementia, you actual moron.
Ako som povedal, zadrhni sa knedľou, ty cigánsky kokot. Mali ťa vyplaviť tí istí občania, ktorí sa ti musia skladať na sociálne dávky, pretože máš viac detí, než bodov IQ.
>>127229703
Libertines should be gassed. Rothbard didn't man gas chambers, but he should have.
>>127230312
>family
nigger what do you think is going to replace the state as a social unit?
the kikes in the government are taking your kids away to indoctrinate them for 6-8 hours a day for 15 years to hate you and love degeneracy and you don't seem too bothered by it, because at least it's not the evil libertarians who would have given you the right to shoot muds on sight 20 years ago
>laws
Read The Law by Bastiat. Law is Justice - that means protection of life, liberty, and property. Life and liberty are basically just ownership of self, which means that any society not recognising property is unjust in the core.
>AoC
What are we, Muzzies?
We're not the ones brainwashing young kids to love cock. Diddling kids is degenerate and should be punishable by death.
MUSIC:
>Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8
>Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc
>I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o
>Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ
>Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw
>Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc
>Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo
>Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0
>Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w
>Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM
>Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg
>Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc
>Start Up The Rotors - youtube.com/watch?v=Ptw41GUKLpc
>>127230405
Taxation isn't wrong - unecessary taxation is
Economical policies aren't the issue here although I'm not a fan of international free market
Social issues are tho. Excessive freedom equals disorder.
A nejsem cigán - Jenom nejsem pro-EU paroháč s nadrženým čurákem na nezletilé a nepotřebuji vytesat do ústavy že fetovat je právo
S tím jděte a ten celý Váš blok do řiťi
MEMES:
>Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ
>Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU
>Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg
>Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns
>Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo
>Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY
>That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU
>>127230312
Economic and economical are not synonyms.
Perhaps your observation is true for left-libertarians (georgists, hippie, ancoms, etc.), but the ancap, the minarchist, and any other variety of right-wing libertarian most certainly do not reject the existence of collectives. Hans Hermann Hoppe, the most prominent libertarian thinker alive today, stresses that the ideal libertarian social order would be a patchwork of small covenants who would decide their own laws and ways of life.
I don't desire that social order myself; I'm a minarchist, so I don't think total anarchy would be ideal, but I certainly agree with him that there should be voluntary micro-collectives in place of super-centralized socialist republics.
>>127231068
Taxation is the price we pay for inferior people to exist. Make of it what you will - they're the reason a central, coercive authority is placed upon the people.
International free markets suck ass - who the hell thinks China should trade with anyone? They have an endless supply of slave labour, they're fucking abominable.
Freedom means the right to pursue happiness. However, this needs to be compatible with the rights of others - homos threaten your health, drugs threaten your property, free movement threatens your life, etc.
Fet je degenerácia a bežný feťák si aj tak zaslúži helikoptéru. Kosti pedofilov by mali byť prímesou do cementu, a EÚ je židovské zovretie Európy.
>>127231708
Is that even being right wing libertarian tho?
Seems to me like you're just Right Wing Conservative
There are many libts who love homosexuality, hate the state, love pedos and love EU.
>>127231057
Ain't I Right seems a bit more authoritarian right considering the line against burning draft cards.
Some more music:
>The Limeliters - Harry Pollitt - youtube.com/watch?v=SIaRyaQw4N0
>Oingo Boingo - Capitalism - youtube.com/watch?v=xqXAW2snGMI
>h o p p e w a v e - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ
>>127230312
>self sustainability for the individual
>rejection of the collective is bad
pick one and only one senpai
Does anyone have a 1920x1080 ancap/libertarian flag wallpaper? Preferrably without a snake
>>127232306
Just the ancap flag then?
>>127232268
You prolly can't see a difference between economical individual responsibility for themselves and social collective structures such as the state, family etc.
>>127232428
Yup, exactly what i was looking for. Thanks a lot.
>>127232519
You prolly can't see a difference between economical individual responsibility for themselves and voluntary social collective structures such as covenants, family etc. not based on the use of unjust force and subjugation of one's will onto others
>>127232826
No one forces you to get married - doesn't mean you shouldn't have then responsibility to that family once you do.
Responsibility must always come before ones happiness
>>127232076
Read Kulturkampf, an article by Rothbard. He was allied with Pat Buchanan and the paleo-conservatives.
Mises and Rothbard were both race realists and radical conservatives, as evidenced by their approval of fascism over communism.
Mises mentored Rothbard, who became an AnCap (Mises was a minarchist) and then he taught Hoppe, who became literally Hitler.
Some of Hoppe's views:
Keynes' flawed economic stances may have been caused by his homosexuality.
Democrats and communists are detrimental to society and need to be physically expelled in order for that society to survive.
In a covenant founded for the purpose of protecting family and kin, the proponents of (((alternative))) lifestyles also need to be removed, in order to honor that original meaning of the covenant.
>>127233153
I am forced to pay taxes senpai
and I agree with you that responsibility comes first. Anarcho-Capitalism is freedom from state, not responsibility. If anything, irresponsible people are filtered out because there's no state to baby them with welfare
What does /lrg/ think of Tom Woods?
I ran across this a few weeks ago. Thought you guys might get a kick out of it.
Im interested in the history of friendly societies can anyone give me some good sources?
>>127233441
If there isn't larger social structure which enforces that responsibility it'll eventually cause disorder
Ancap utopia is illusion. It's basically Globalism in hands of the 1% instead of the states.
And taxes that are wasted on welfare is bad - no one ever said it isn't - but taxes themselves aren't complete evil - Military and police are necessary structures provided by state which could not or would be disadvantagous for the society if they'd be in private hands
>>127233811
Hoppe is probably thrice this cuck's age and HHH could curb-stomp him until he fills the cracks on the road that's being inefficiently managed by the state's tax revenue.
>>127228401
>/lrg/-approved people
>Timothy McVeigh
SlovakOP delivered
>>127233811
I want this fag going full cognitive dissonence after reading the chapters on immigration
>>127233811
He doesn't really make any arguments against it though, he's just saying what was in the book as if everyone should know its inherently wrong.
The only argument I can really get from this is "All of these things are apparently axiomatic truths that cannot be denied even when, say, productivity figures in the Nordic countries match or exceed those in countries with less thoroughgoing redistributive schemes," and that's a poor argument considering the there are much more factors to take into account than wealth redistribution in analyzing productivity among different countries.
>no Nozick
You fucking disgust me
>>127234056
>flag
I can see why you might want to read up on some friendlier places.
>Medieval Iceland
>http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Academic/Iceland/Iceland.html
>https://www.lewrockwell.com/2002/06/roderick-t-long/the-vikings-were-libertarians/
>Ancient Gaelic Ireland
>https://mises.org/sites/default/files/For%20a%20New%20Liberty%20The%20Libertarian%20Manifesto_3.pdf (go to pg 79, though he discusses a few other examples in preceding pages)
>https://peacerequiresanarchy.wordpress.com/2012/12/30/stateless-societies-ancient-ireland/
And of course
>The American Old West
>https://invisiblemolotov.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/wild-west3.pdf
>>127228849
i wish i was on my phone to save this but thanks for your contribution to society
>>127233811
>All of these things are apparently axiomatic truths that cannot be denied even when, say, productivity in the Nordic countries match or exceed those in countries with less thoroughgoing redistributive schemes.
They must have missed the entire point of the introduction where it's impossible to de-entangle the effects of a policy from all the surrounding factors. Also note how he makes to attempt to actually refute the logical reasoning of HHH, just makes pleas to his statist narrative, plus the CURRENT YEAR ('seriously in the century').
The first paragraph is at least entertaining, especially the quip about hyphenation.
>>127234580
You mean Timothy "Abolish the state with ammonium nitrate" McVeigh?
blue corner > purple corner
any new orleans anons here
>>127233811
>muh nordick countries
every time
>>127234093
>If there isn't larger social structure which enforces that responsibility it'll eventually cause disorder
This is true. But, while your intent is clear, the method isn't: you simple cannot force responsibility onto other people. There cannot be legislature that says responsibility is required by law. Instead, what must be done is simple and uses your aforementioned disorder productively: degenerates are left to their own private property, while you keep to your own, upholding ultra-conservative laws within your realm. The irresponsible degenerates, starved of welfare, will crash their own property because degeneracy is still degeneracy and one of two will happen:
1. Some people will decide to give up being a degenerate and go back to civilized private societies where degeneracy is banned
2. Some degenerates will riot and use violence, in which case violence is rightfully justified in return and they can be killed freely without guilt
The system cleans and filters itself much more efficiently than if you try and force responsibility on degenerates directly. They have to learn the error of their ways, and if they don't learn, you must let them suffer the full consequences of their degeneracy without mercy.
>It's basically Globalism in hands of the 1% instead of the states.
How so?
I never understood this "criticism" when it's LESS government, not a bigger one to rule the world. it's not Globalism if there's no central authority over everything.
>which could not or would be disadvantagous for the society if they'd be in private hands
In what way can private police not work or would be "disadvantageous"?
If anything, the free market of competing police agencies for the best services mean they would have to be even better then their competitors in upholding peace and minimizing crime. Compare this to a stagnant police force appointed by law that is just *assumed* to be doing their best *just because*
>>127235695
how so?
>>127235069
Unfortunately for us minarchists, ancapism is much more in vogue. Ancap just seems like better meme material.
For those who care, here's Nozick's big piece in the libertarian world:
https://joseywales1965.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/0001_anarchy_state_and_utopia.pdf
For those who are interested in minarchism, here are some other authors to look into:
>Ron Paul
>Adam Smith
>John Locke
>David Hume
>Ludwig von Mises
>Thomas Paine
>Friedrich Hayek
>Harry Browne
>John Stuart Mill
>>127235462
Uh...I meant Timothy "be a hero,nuke the bureau" McVeigh
>>127235714
I visited there a couple years ago. Walter Block teaches at Loyola.
>>127235695
>cropping out everything but the text
This is why nobody likes you, neocons
>>127233445
I like him
>>127235851
Nice
>>127234580
I pandered to your shitposting, Frenchbro.
I've liked him as long as I've known about him, though.
>>127235695
>futa
>not degenerate
GEE THANKS STATE FOR SAVING US FROM DEGENERACY!
You're like a refutation of your own non-argument. Thank you for having made my day.
>>127236280
if you fucc them you might get aids
- chris cantwell, pikeville, 2017
>>127235180
>Medieval Iceland
>Ancient Gaelic Ireland
>The American Old West
literally family <3
Anyway is Founding Father Ameribro in here?
HOW'S THE MOBILE OVEN?
>>127235817
I feel like most of the people who identify with the purple corner are the "DUDE lesbians with rifles defending marijuana fields LMAO" people or gun wielding trannies.
and even if the blue corner has a lot of economically illiterate people and way to many protectionists at least most of them seem to be interested in preserving Christian/European nations and culture
>>127236457
because the free market does such a wonderful job at stopping "degeneracy"
>>127237420
Bullets do a good enough job.
Either way, Molyneux and That Guy High-T are ancaps.
>>127236830
Did his artwork evolved ?
Didn't saved it
>>127237420
Well, we're paleolibertarians; the good kind, not libertine infiltrators.
>>127237979
this is the most latest one i have on my machine
>>127238146
im not him btw*
>>127237702
I didn't make that meme
Christopher Cantwell would fit much better, but he's not famous enough
>>127237981
I didn't say I hated all the purples, I know there are a lot of great people there. I just think it's much more heavily infiltrated.
how would libertarians handle the US global empire if they controlled DC?
would it be (((multinational corporations))) run amok?
Yikes, ancap is literally the single gayest faction on this board. They even put little bowties on their ball. Fruitcakes.
>>127238487
> I just think it's much more heavily infiltrated.
Completly agree
>>127238612
Anarchoball is a fag and we all know it here
>>127233159
> Keynes' flawed economic stances may have been caused by his homosexuality.
Source?
>>127233159
>Keynes' flawed economic stances may have been caused by his homosexuality.
that's bullshit but i believe it
Wassap. Sorry I'm late.
>>127238146
It's me, America checking in. I still want to make the image Danette danker taking suggestions.
>>127239250
>Dannete
Phone posting, never mind my apparent retardation.
"Taxation isn't theft but it is extortion but it doesn't make for that good of a slogan" - Austin Petersen
The thing is that you are not OBLIGED to pay but it's a nice house you have there, it would be a shame if somebody were to kick you out of it.
>>127237981
I'm interested in finding the citation for this.
>>127236830
I'm here, I'm gonna add Hoppe in, pushing the fags out, and decorate the oven with more fire and oyyveyyyyy
>>127239920
keep it up lad
>>127228401
No Ayn Rand??
>>127241450
No Ayn Rand.
>>127241527
Red pill me because from what I know she was pretty economically sound + objectivism
Imagine if your philosophy was so fucked that you had to rely on something like 'natural law' haha :D
>>127239920
Nice.
Can you post the update on the pic?
>>127242479
The one posted is the most recent, I gotta add stuff in.
>>127238146
>>127242479
Whoops, didn't scroll up. Shieet.
I'm really liking this Timothy "anotha shoah down in Oklahoma" McVeigh fella, meme him more.
What if companies want to flood the market with cheap imported labor? How should the natives respond?
>>127238530
libertarians will never be taken seriously until they answer this question
>>127238612
>posts a meme claiming we use strawmen
>while trying to make a case against anarchyball
>whomst we hate
That retard literally doxxed Mr. Please Clapperton. For recruiting Jared Howe, Eric July, and That Guy T - all of whomst'd've have spines and are good libertarians, unlike Anarchyball. What makes you think we like that ass?
I know Fapperton made the comics, but they parted ways. He's cringy too, but at least he no longer shit-talks helicopters.
>>127238847
>>127239036
Hoppe's Wikipedia page, I think.
>>127229703
>Creates a virtual city for Libertarians, writes profusely, red pills hundreds of children.
>(You) Shitposts on 4chan
Who's the real cuck?
>>127233445
Based salesman
>>127228401
Hoppe ain't a true ancap, he's a communist.
>>127243195
ok bro u rite, lemme open a Tumblr and redpill trannies to the cause
>>127238530
>>127242977
First we need a violent revolution to purge all the commies and other wrenches in the system of natural law.
Then we rely on property rights, which would mean American enterprises overseas would basically turn into U.S. territory.
We're taking U.S. Steel, though. Nuttin person-hell.
Corporations would take a beating after regulations are gone.
>>127243493
>t. leftypol
>>127233811
Why do they always sound like condescending skinny weak boys who have never done anything risky in their life?
>>127243494
Someone needs to make the clothes and shit. Go get em faggot.
>>127243505
thats not how national sovereignty works
What is the name of this libertarian right politician these gentlemen are talking about? I can't understand due to retarded German accent.
>https://youtu.be/EwjwmQZNwVQ?t=297
Also few seconds later at 5:33 he mentions some Argentina's Pinochet-like dictator named Victor and I spent an hour looking for it and all I found was this:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Mar%C3%ADa_Mend%C3%ADa
Does anybody know last name of that Victor guy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-33cuur-hTc
Im not really into nog music but this song is dank.
I got Mises on my shelf, a low time preference for wealth
And I roll argumentation ethics for the ownership of self
>>127242248
I hate stirnposters so god damn much
>>127242248
Still better then having a philosophy relying on yourself and how "unique" you are
>>127244575
Can someone answer?
It's a 40 second listening and you guys will definitely recognize the politicians.
I want to grasp the ideology fully.
>>127246670
don't know who they're talking about. never heard of a victor something who drugged commies and dropped them in the ocean. sounds like a pretty cool guy tho.
>>127246670
Hayek?
>>127246670
sounds like Victor "Somefuck" maybe he just didn't know the name and said it or made the story up perhaps
>>127246670
>>127247054
>Jorge Videla
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_Rafael_Videla
He says it right at the end of the video
>>127247054
Yeah, I admire Pinochet but that guy was apparently even more brutal.
I know it's not libertarian principle to kill because of thoughtcrime, but it just sounds cool.
>>127245825
Explain to me why property as a natural right should be taken seriously.
>>127246332
Yikes
>>127242856
You mean Timothy "exterminating more bureaucrats than the invention of FAX" McVeigh ?
>>127247472
Explain why your ego should be took seriously without natural law
>>127247716
I get that there are different levels of sophistication in libertarianism. You're the lowest.
>>127247158
THANKS ANON!!
I finally figured he said "Hayek and so forth".
Thanks for assistance dude.
>>127247193
Thanks Beligianon, really appreciate it! I couldn't watch it til the end because of the part above.
>>127247626
Yeah, Timothy "empty my nine at the welfare line" McVeigh is a pretty cool goy.
my hoppe isnt so good maybe i'll redo it but I have no creative feels for it right now.
>>127247886
>insulting makes me right
And that's why even the leftists Hegelians (his Bros) disliked Stirner folks
>>127245825
>>127247472
Are you the stirnerite swede from yesterday? You still haven't responded to by counter-argument.
>>127248533
I love it
>>127248589
I'm pretty sure I responded to everything that made any sort of sense, I might have missed it if it was late in the day.
I don't accept stirnerite.
so to speak.
>>127251599
>when someone tells you that universal voting is good because the people would know the country's legitimate concerns
WHAT IF THE CHILD CONSENTS THO?
> https://twitter.com/Vedmak00/status/867926314904416257
>>127248589
Okay I see.
>Since men can think, feel, evaluate, and act only as
individuals, it becomes vitally necessary for each man’s survival
and prosperity that he be free to learn, choose, develop
his faculties, and act upon his knowledge and values.
So that's what rothbard says. Note that the term 'vitally necessary' is just used for emphasis, there is nothing that says it must, by necessity, be this way. Rothbard is talking about how it *should* be, it's a moral sentiment based on what is best for mankind, given the nature of humans. So that's what he means by natural rights..
I suggest as a footnote that the questions 'what can be' and 'what will be' are more important than the question of 'what should be', and that the failure to realize this creates a lot of unnecessary confusion.
>On it's necessity, surely you must agree with simple axioms about human nature - are all humans not trying to advance their position in the world, obtaining that which they find subjectively valuable? - if you believe in such statements, then surely you must concede that you can logically derive further information from these?
These are empirical questions and calling them axioms is misguided, I can concede them for sake of argument. Note that we cannot logically derive a moral judgement from an empirical fact.
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>>127248589
>On it's utility, a society that respects natural law (even were it a spook) is going to be more successful than one that is not. Do not all societies prohibit and discourage unprovoked murder? Will not a society that holds property rights in absolute be more propsporous than an "anarchy of lawlessness"?
Here's the problem. If we have conceded that humans seek to obtain subjective goals and advance their position in the world, then we have to view the things you mention in that context. Criminal and property laws are human institutions that serve human goals.
Now wouldn't you admit that it's a natural trait of humans to avoid being unfairly treated or exploited?
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Then why should human tools like property and criminal law be available to the man that wants to advance his position; but the human tool of violent resistance, which is just as 'natural', be denied to the man that wants to avoid being exploited?
How to achieve a libertarian society:
1. Get a young traditional wife
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2. Get a fine job
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3. Make tons of babies
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4. Teach them young to be great people and to despise socialism and degeneracy (both feed on each other)
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5. Teach them to make more babies and to teach them the same thing
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6. Keep this family tradition, in addition to others that you should create, invest in your house, make it bigger, buy land, make ornaments in tribute to your family, and pass this on to your descendants
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7. Privately educate your kids. Send them to good, elite, schools where they can fulfill their quest for knowledge and make great contacts.
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8. Vote, support parties/think tanks/people that want to reduce govt and degeneracy.
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9. Become a central point in your community's affairs. Know the local Father, the politicians, your neighbors, your kids' friends' parents, and so on. Invest a lot into local change.
Godspeed.
>>127228622
you should consider adding Ron Paul's Liberty report to media list, on YouTube, daily on weekdays and covered sec 702 yesterday
>>127258946
audible kek
>>127238612
Not an argument
>>127238612
who you mean cuckball? He's not even /ourguy/ .
Picarda AnCap ball is /lrg/'s ball of choice
>>127260975
AnarchyCuck is a fucking facebook-tier faggot.
>>127261198
It's a shame meme ball / picardía threads are a relic of the past now. Guess I'll have to figure out how to use that EmotiGuy software by myself.
>>127261198
this
>>127261425
Andy is nice