He's right you know

Try harder

>>127225384
>Prove him wrong and I will listen to you

No one cares what you believe.

>>127225709
>>127225719

these are not arguments

>>127226288
^

>>127225384
I agree, we should allow law abiding citizens to carry guns in schools

>>127225384
Are you seriously claiming there are no murders in the U.K.?

There were about two dozen kids killed just the other day by a Muslim with a bomb.

Neither shoes nor bombs are protected by the constitution.

Lastly, the leading cause of murder in the US is non whites. If you were to take out blacks and Hispanics from the crime stats we would have about the lowest crime rate in the world.

niggers are, research some crime stats

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>>127225384
YOU SAY 'NO' TO MY AR-15, YOU FUCKIN' PRICK! YOU AIN'T GONNA ABLE TO SAY 'NO' TO ME WHEN I GET TO YOUR HOUSE, YOU MOTHERFUCKER!!

>>127225384
False equivalence. We already had to take our guns off at school.

>>127225384
this is a ridiculous analogy because the right to bear arms is enshrined in our constitution. lefties don't understand that if that right is abridged, the rest can be as well.

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>>127225384
Guns are a constitutional right and the reason that schools are targeted is because they are islands of "gun free zones" surrounded by communities where gun owners are common.

Bringing a bomb onto a plane, however, is not a right.

>>127225384
Conflating a improvised IED hidden in a shoe and a Gun.

>>127225384
a thousand different muslim attacks, and we still have to welcome refugees.

Oh see what I did there? Two can play that game. Now make sure sage is present in all fields my new friends.

>>127226952
>>127225384
>Also implying we support the tsa

>>127225384
Time to ban gun free school zones. Murderers aren't deterred by a sign. Only law abiding citizens who could protect the children are deterred. We've witnessed the sad results.

>>127225384
Guns can save lives. Imagine if there was more conceal carry. Some of those shootings might have turned out very different, some probably would of never came to be.

An armed society is a polite society. We see it all the time in states with open carry. Antifa and other liberal thugs, who beat people within an inch of their lives simply because they disagree, are hesitant to resort to violence when they know their opposition is in a position to put them down for good.

So there yo go, eat a dick OP.

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>>127226288
No one wins when you argue with a brick.

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>>127225384
>31 school shootings since Columbine and we still refuse to arm teachers and fill schools with police

This faggot and all like him need to burn.

>>127225384
I've never taken my shoes off at the airport.
Checkmate.

>>127226288
My rights don't end just because some nut shot up a school.

>>127227244
That gif exploded my dick.

Airplane rides and shoes are not written into the Constitution. Limp brained faggot.

>>127227449

but they do when someone threatened with a shoebomb

>>127225384
The reason why so many people got killed were because the bad guys had guns.

>>127227570
>Having to take your shoes off for 30 seconds
>Put your shoes back on
=/=
>Denied the right to own a firearm
>Having any firearms in your possession taken away from you

Try harder

OY! JOHN OLIVUH!!

>>127225384
>karate classes

HAHAHAHA

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>>127225384
You ban guns then you ban your ability to affectively protect yourself and your loved ones. "Guns don't kill people, people kill people."

>>127227570
They shouldn't have.

>>127225384
The problem I have with the left regarding crime is that they don't care about solving the real problem: minority crime rates. They either ignore it or are oblivious to it altogether. If you want to minimize shootings, start by dismantling black, muslim, and mexican gangs and making it harder for them to obtain weapons because most gun violence is coming from them. Iowa and New Hampshire have very lenient gun control laws, and they have the lowest crime rates in the United States. Why? Because it's predominantly white people residing there. Similarly, Switzerland has one of the lenient gun control laws and highest rate of gun ownership in Europe, yet it also has the lowest murder rate in Europe.

>>127225384
One britbong rapes a thousand kids

We still can't execute every limey that we see

>>127225384
I don't agree with having to take my shoes off at airports

>>127225384
1300 years of Muslims attacking the west and we haven't turned the middle East into glass.

>>127225384
taking off your shoes for like 5 seconds at the airport is in no way comparable to banning guns

>>127226995
not every muslim is a terrorist but even gun is lethal

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>>127225384
>ban guns from good people
>now only bad people have guns
All gun industries should be banned and destroyed and military should go back to arrows and swords desu famalam

>>127225384
He's right though. We shouldn't take our shoes off.

These are not related.

>Shoe bomb - they check your shoes before boarding a flight.
>School shootings - guns are still fucking banned from schools.

What do they want, shoes to be banned from flights?

Start by hiring better crisis actors, juden.

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>>127225384
>I'm smarter than you because I get my political views from a comedian

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>>127226288
You seem to be hold the delusional opinion that your or any outsider's opinions are relevant to our decisions.

They are not.

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>>127225384
>ban the sale of new guns
>there are still half a billion guns in circulation

The only thing banning guns would accomplish is raising the value of the guns that already exist. The genie is already out of the bottle, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube, etc.

>>127226795
This

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>>127225384

>Anglos

>>127225384
>Murder guns per capita? (Hint it's ZERO)

How about those violent assault crimes you have in the UK? You compare those statistics caused by blunt weapons and knives and you end up with the UK having a higher violent crime rate than the US. Guns don't cause the deaths. It's the people. And by people, I mean their ideology, psychological state, and in this case, religious beliefs.

Tighter gun regulations would probably be a good thing but the problem is that even though many gun owners would probably be ok with some restrictions, gun lobbies will probably block. Plus even though gun violece is near non existant in places like the uk, does that also mean violent crimes are also decreased proportionaly?

>>127225384
You could apply this logic to nuclear weapons but not firearms. Schools already ban and check for weapons. I could drive a van filled with explosives into a school and blow it to smithereens...what will you ban? Explosives? Oh wai

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>>127225384
Alright, I will.

Done. Now kill yourself.

>>127228343
A gun can't decide to do anything, a Muslim has decided to belong to a murderous death cult.

>>127228343
Not every muslim kills some one, just like not every gun is used to kill some one dumbass

>no change in the regulation of guns
Well, we banned bringing guns into schools, and it doesn't seem to have worked. We also banned bringing guns into airports.

Maybe banning the tools doesn't stop the crime. Maybe we should address the motivations that cause people to commit these crimes. Has there been an increase in overall psychopathic behavior in society? Why?

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>>127225384
>Prove him wrong.

There are countries where adults have access to firearms yet schools don't get shot up daily.

You're just a special case america.

>>127225384
What you bring with you to a public place is one thing.
What you own in your own home is another.
You give up that right and you might as well give up all your rights you dumb liberal fuck.
Stop trying to argue in favor of criminals. They're the ones who cause the vast majority of gun related crime, dummy.

>I'm a man, I'll fight you like a man
>gets shot by nigger who bought gun illegally
>dies a faggot

>no regulations

Literally nothing is more regulated in the US than guns

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_by_state

wow, really difficult stuff to research

>>127225384
He's a fucking idiot and so are you. We were doing it before the shoe bomber. We take our shoes off because they turned the sensitivity up in the metal detectors and high end shoes with metal shanks were setting them off. It speeds up the security line.

>>127225384
>he says unironically, less than one week since the last Islamic terrorist attack, which was less than one month after the previous attack, which was less than one month since the last attack before that...

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>>127225384
i agree personal safety and fighting tyranny are bullshit arguments; the reason why guns are needed is to keep jamal away in the event of a race riot

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go away

>>127225384
Is that you Kieran?

I will fucking murder you

>>127225384

Listen, Achmed.

America is never going to ban guns. Ever.

The gun control movement here died in the 90s. Since then we've doubled the number of guns, repealed gun laws, and halved the crime rate.

It just isn't going to happen. Get over it.

>>127225384 (OP)
>>127229206
Not to mention, that the percentage of "hot burglaries" (that is burglaries that happen while people are home) is MUCH higher in the UK than the US.

>>127226288
Explosive packed shoes are not a right under the constitution.

Comedy hacks are not legal experts, either, so fuck off.

>>127225384
Sage

>>127228343

They aren't very good at it, I guess.

I mean there are half a billion guns currently in circulation in the US and they don't even manage ten thousand deaths a year.

>>127225384

You're not going to convince us to cuck ourselves like you so you can come retake the colonies. Stop trying.

>>127225384
Let's see how your karate turns out when a mudslime is mowing people down with an AK in the street
>fag

>>127225384

I love how the same logic can be put into place for muslims. but on a bigger scale

>>127225384
thanks op. i'll go buy another one today. that will make 7 for me total.

>>127225384
So, since were banning guns then, are we also banning shoes?

This is your logic.

>>127225384

Left when shooting: BAN GUNS
Right when bombing: BAN MUSLIMS

*this post is impartial and does not represent the views of its poster

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>>127225384
>"Using drugs and hypnosis on mental patients in a process called Orion, the CIA inculcated the desire in these people to open fire on schoolyards and thus inflame the antigun lobby. This plan is well under way, and so far is working perfectly. The middle class is begging the government to do away with the second amendment."

William Cooper, Behold A Pale Horse, 1991

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>>127226655

>>127230789
Exactly. Some Muzzies showed up to Garland, Texas and started firing at the building. They were killed very quickly.

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>>127230509
we are very patient, goyim.

>>127225384
He's wrong, shoe bombs are NOT protected by the second amendment

>>127225384
as far as i know the Constitution of the USA says nothing about your right to wear shoes while walking through metal detectors.

>>127225384
terror attacks every month a and we still let Muslims live among us.

31 school shootings since columbine and we still wont arm the teachers?

>>127225384
the only regulations that would prevent school shootings would also deprive ordinary citizens from having them because most school shooters have no prior offenses.

>>127225384
How about I just throw my shoe at you?

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>>127231105

Well, then you probably shouldn't have passed the assault weapons ban and turned the AR-15 into the most popular rifle in the country.

Fucking slide

>no change in gun law.
Gun rights have been getting chipped away for decades though, especially in states like Commiefornia and NY

>>127225384
guns are already banned from schools
what are you going to do double ban guns from schools?

>>127225384
Oh man. Sounds like we need to ban guns from school property.

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>>127231321
oy vey back to the drawing board. we will ruin the usa whether the filthy goys like it or not. the guns goyim, we will have them. inch by inch.

>>127225384
I guess they shouldnt let you bring your guns to the airport either.......oh wait they dont

>>127225384
>we still are allowed to own and wear shoes
Now thats out of the way. Why are you such a foggot?

>>127225384
You think the freedom lovers are pro tsa lul
Any way one is protected by the constitution the other is not.

>>127226995
I was once speaking with someone about why we should restrict immigration, and her response was "The bad ones are going to get in anyways." I think I've heard this same line in regards to gun control.

>>127231692
what are background checks?

idk about stricter gun laws but there should be more awareness raised for gun crimes.

>>127225384
Niggers don't buy legal guns, and yet they commit 50% of the firearm related murders while being 18% of the population.

Sorry, we need guns.

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>>127226896
The lefties rather use motorlocks instead of guns.

>>127231692
Guns have value. Muslims do not.

>>127225384
If you're going to ban anything it should be alcohol. It's probably a factor in 90% of violent crimes

>>127225384
that's a great point John Oliver

there have been 162 islamic terrorist attacks in the last 30 days

>>127225384
False analogy.

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>>127231599

>>127232359
no he's right, it's a great analogy

Also, there were 2,479 terrorist attacks by Muslims in 2016

>>127225384
>prove him wrong

Don't have to. 2nd Amendment does it for me.

>airport
Bomb free zone.
>school
Gun free zone.
>Seth Rich thread
Sage free zone, unlike your thread.

>>127232502
Nah he's wrong.

>>127225384
SAGE


That's fucking retarded and a lie.

9/11 is why they started fucking us and molesting us and making us take off shoes and clothes and be chosen for special screening.

Fucking lying limey cunt as usual.

SAGE YOU COCKSUCKER

>>127232502
And jet, only 5% of those were committed by legal gun owners.

Criminals don't buy legal guns, and laws only effect legal gun buyers.

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>>127231599

>>127232634
but he makes such a good point

1 incident and we do mass checking, 30 incidents in schools over 18 years and we do nothing is pretty bad.


and last week alone there were 55 Islamic terrorist attacks. just putting that number out there

>>127232711
and statistically more legally owned guns leads to a lower crime rate everywhere in the world but forget about that

>>127225384
you can just hear his shit eating smug fucking cunt voice.

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this A caused B so X should cause Y logic is the most down syndrome, lazy argument in politics up to the current year. even marx was smart enough to know the proletariat would be taken advantage of without guns. there's a crash everyday, do we ban cars now too? fugg it let's ban alcohol and knives too

>>127232579
Oh my.

>>127232873

2 incidents a year in a nation of 350 million people is literally nothing.

Terrorist need to take a chill pill.

>>127232873
He's presenting a useful argument against cucks but a plane and a school are different, as well as the perps.

>>127231912

Are you under the perception that the public is misinformed about gun crimes? In what way?

>>127225384
I swear to god its the same brit making the same stupid thread every month.

>>127233028
Let me just kill one of your family. You'll still have the rest there for you.

Cuck.

>>127225384
Why don't they apply this logic to Islam?

>>127225384
>Guns are the root of nearly every murder in the USA.

thats economic disparity you're thinking of

>>127233129
If more people knew more about gun crimes they'd be able to defend themselves against them better.

Stricter gun laws doesn't stop gun crimes.

>>127225384
"SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED", BRITFAG.

>>127233324
haven't you heard of chicago? how can you argue gun control doesn't work my dude?

>>127233186

You are literally more likely to be killed by lightning or peanuts or sharks than a school shooting you worthless faggot.

If you worthless commies got out of the way, we could arm and train teachers and then school shootings would be a thing of the past. But no, you sit there autistically screeching about muh gun bans and nothing that is actually useful ever gets accomplished.

The country was so much better off when we used to lobotomize the mentally ill.

>>127225384
you can't bring a gun into school

>>127225709
>topic
Try to focus

>>127233437
I'm not arguing.

>>127225384
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

Also - get fucked.
You can't defend yourself against kebab you filthy cuckold.
I hope the truck of peace visits you from behind.

>>127233550
i was kidding anyways

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>>127226452
Here's your missing chromosome!

Guns are regulated. You would know that if you lived here?


How's the sand nigger killings going? The UK Wil be under sharia within 10 years.

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>>127225384
Almonds: activated

>>127233725
It's difficult to detect sarcasm in plain text.

Usually is accompanied by a tone of voice.

You're doing a good job, anon.

*not sarcastic*

>>127225384
>All of the bombers are Muslim
>Muslims arent banned yet

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>>127225384
Really makes you...

>>127225384
>500 dead since Ramadan started and we STILL let muslims in

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>...and no change in school security

Fixed. This is the logically equivalent sentence. It's also the ideal solution, if your school had metal detectors and randomly selected penis inspections you and your parents would have felt very differently about you being there. Go ahead and let some cheap school administrators hide the problem and do nothing to stop it because it makes their pissant little bureaucratic position easier to maintain.

>>127233835

http://heyjackass.com/

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OP is talking out his arse

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>>127233736

>>127234048
Bookmarked.

>>127225384
I know, right? They should ban guns from schools already.

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>>127225384
The difference between those two examples is that guns protect us from the government. If we have guns, we can prevent tyranny.

I wonder how those school shootings would have played out if every teacher were well armed and trained? Even if just a few were well armed and trained? But we won't know since guns are not allowed on schools. Which makes zero sense if you are worried about self defense in the case of a school shooting.

>>127233437
Have you seen Chicago? How their murder rate plunged after they allowed citizens to conceal carry?

>>127225384
219047918 religion of peace attacks later we still have half the worlds muslims in our countries.

>>127234465
i was kidding brudda

I think there should be a legal way to obtain a gun loan for those who can only afford to live in crime ridden neighborhoods.

>>127231096
Grew up in Memphis and people still can't understand why I hate niggers.

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>>127234243

Maybe they should ban schools from guns

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>>127225384
No he's not. He's a social programmer. You need to either wake up or shut up. If you're too stupid to get it you need to be quiet because you're making a long of noise and it's hard to get the signal through your noise-making. "Lurk for years" is a rule put in place to protect you from humiliating yourself as you did with your post here.

>>127225384
1 year after Columbine 80 new gun regulations were passed in the US. Go suck off an Ahmed you lying cuck.

>>127225384
>blacks commit the most violent crime
>don't ban niggers

You're Right op we need to do something

>>127225384
You don't have the right to get on somebody else's plane. What is even your argument?

If a private establishment wants to check you for weapons before entering thier premises, then that is perfectly Constitutional as you don't have the right to be on somebody else's property. Likewise, you don't have the right to prevent me from being armed in public or in my own private property.

>>127233449
Calm down, you retarded faggot.

>>127225384
We need guns to defend ourselves against the British Muslim hordes after they've exterminated native Brits like you.

>>127235236

>not an argument

>>127225384
Get rid of guns for whom? Your country has none. You're referring to the United States: and the only reason it isn't *quite* as fucked as Europe is because US citizens are armed to the teeth -- half of them anyway -- and our government at least hesitates for a moment before trying to take the piss on us. Yours on the other hand just imports murderers and arrests people who complain about it on social media.

>>127225384
At the root of every murder is lust, greed or drugs. Not guns you fucking halfwit.

>>127225384
Say somthing mean on the internet and you get put in prison

22 people get killed in a suicide bombing but there is no action taken against Muslims?

>>127233768
Now compare this graph to the immigration graph, and watch it fit perfectly like a puzzle piece.

>>127225384
Fuck off nigger. UK is muslim fagland anyway.

Shoe bombs were an easy way to get through the scanners they have now - just because one didn't work doesn't mean others wouldn't

I can't carry guns on a plane either - they are banned there for the same reason

So... yeah

>>127225384
the assumption that you have to take off your shoes because some retarded guy tried to blow off his feet is pretty goddamn naive. your bait is boring.

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>>127225384
>multiple car attacks
>cars still legal
It's the current year, people! Woooooow
>multiple knife attacks
>cutlery still legal
Only police should have knives. If you disagree you're literally a Nazi
*thunderous applause*

>>127225384
It's my second amendment right. Get fucked.

I will not have my right to bear arms revoked because a few criminals use them illegally. There are 150 million gun owners in the US, and only a few are used in crimes each year. You are advocating punishing and removing the rights of, a hundred million people because of a few criminals.

You are a traitor that needs to hang.

>>127225384
I think it's too late for US to start banning guns. Almost every black owns a gun and many illegally.
If they banned guns my guess is that whites who bought guns legally'd have to return them while blacks would still have them.
I used to oppose guns just like you but now that Europe is overflown by filth I am thinking about owning one myself.

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>>127225384
>implying people who support the 2nd amendment all support taking off their shoes at the airport
>implying taking off your shoes at the airport once in a blue moon is as bad as being denied the means to defend yourself against lethal attacks
Try making a valid point for a change.

Plane full of pussies that outnumbered terrorist.

Wtf guys?

>>127231034
The cia said they'd stop, so stop circulating baseless conspiracy theories

Or you know PROFILE

For 80 years we flew planes with minimal security. Had safe schools and didn't live In a fucking police state.

Fucking morons. This dude is scum

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>nobody gives a shit about the cost, logistics or safety of collecting 350+ million registered weapons and 100+ million unregistered weapons

Hey Germany, can I borrow 5 trillion dollars?

>every 10th house in red states and every 25th house in blue states shoots at collection officers

Good thing FEMA bought all those coffins while they were on sale.

>>127232770
Another lie. Jesus fucking Christ, lying infographic.

sage

>>127236875
Your image made me think of 2 things:

1.) http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-pizza-day-passes-2000-20-million-2017-5
2.) https://youtu.be/kGjSq4HqP9Y?t=1m53s

>>127237153
Always archive sites renowned for shilling and clickbait. Thank you.

https://archive.is/xyS0M <- businessinsider.com article
https://hooktube.com/kGjSq4HqP9Y?t=1m53s

>>127229225
Move to fucking australia you actual factual communist

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>>127237038

That's the best you can do?

No wonder you chimps are losing.

>>127237159
Good looks anonymous archive man!

regulation just punishes people who already follow the law

>>127225384
Even if the government takes all of our guns and out law them we still going to find a way to get them... did you forgot what we have South of the border? There will be more demand for guns than for drugs

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libtards will let an ahmed stab them to death and gang rape their pet dog

>>127225384
I'm a leftwinger and think gun-control is mostly bourgeois/cafe-liberal crap.

The Proles must be armed and capable of fighting back against the bourgeois/Bourgeois institutions.

self-declared "leftists" are fucking idiots if they don't understand this.

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>>127238120
Leftists don't have any rights, let alone gun rights.

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>>127225384
Schools have metal detectors and security guards before you can enter. It's a prison.

How new and stupid are you....
Watching john Oliver days a lot about you.

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>>127228853
>you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube
Just rangeban the Netherregions

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>>127232770
It's beautiful isn't it :)

Can't prove him wrong when he never said it in the first place *finger to temple*

>>127225384
You're right, we should ban guns from schools, just like we have banned shoe bombs from planes.

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>Already laws in place against shooting guns in schools.
>Already laws in place against bringing explosive devices on planes.

Laws are clearly the answer.

Please can we stop referring to this guy as British
The only British thing about him is his accent
He's the most American Brit I've ever seen everything about the way he acts screams American
No British person would say the things he does the way he does it

>>127225384
wouldn't it make a lot more sense to just increase security in high risk schools though?
The argument he is trying to make makes no sense at all, he's whining about airport security...instead of, you know, stricter regulation of high risk elements for bombings...
while trying to shill gun regulation for something that would be better solved by increased security in high risk areas.

The mans a fucking charlatan.

Is he implying you could open carry your firearm through airport security but would have to take your shoes off?

>>127225384
>Thousands of jihadists
>No ban of muslims

>>127225384
So your point is because both have less chance of killing you than lightning then we shouldn't take ridiculous precautions over either?

Makes sense to me.

>>127227299
I don't agree with arming teachers, but armed cops in the area is for sure a good idea.

>>127225384
>He's right you know
No, he's not.

>Prove him wrong.
Can't prove a negative. You must prove him right.

>Guns are the root of nearly every murder in the USA.
Doesn't matter. Our firearm rights aren't subject to firearm deaths.

> If you want self defence, you should learn to be a man and take some karate classes.
Bullets travel faster than fists. Bullets also travel faster than police officers.

>Look at the UK for a good example on gun control. Murder guns per capita? (Hint it's ZERO)
Doesn't matter. Our firearm rights aren't subject to other countries laws.

>So Pol, is it time to ban guns?
No. It wouldn't matter if a million people died by firearms every year. Our firearm rights aren't subject to other people abusing those rights.

>>127246524
>I don't agree with arming teachers, but armed cops in the area is for sure a good idea.
How about armed cops and teachers have the choice to be armed if they wish?

>Ban assault schools

>>127226452
We should also ban trucks.

>>127235946
>I think it's too late for US to start banning guns.
It wouldn't matter if they banned guns.

We'd still have the right to own firearms.

Our rights do not come from the government. Our rights are inherent.

That's why we can ignore laws and orders that violate our rights.

>>127225384
It's true. Teachers should have mandatory carry and a mental health evaluation. It would reduce the number of liberals brainwashing kids and improve safety.

>>127247703
Wouldn't it be more likely for teachers to go nuts and shoot a kid than a cop? Maybe I'm wrong but I find the idea of teachers with guns concerning.

>>127248371
>Wouldn't it be more likely for teachers to go nuts and shoot a kid than a cop?
Why would it?
If a teacher goes crazy and wants to shoot up a school, the laws against gun in school aren't going to stop it from happening.
So why would the laws allowing guns in school make it more likely?

>Maybe I'm wrong but I find the idea of teachers with guns concerning.
But not the government having every sort of weapon imaginable?

>>127248697
>>127248697
Fair enough.

>>127225384
Why hasn't he been sent home yet?

>>127225384
i have 50 schools in my city. Not one shooting. I agree we need to change the regulations and get rid of gun free zones. Thats where all the shootings take place. Watch what happens when someone sneaks a gun into a gun free zone and starts shooting back at the gunman. The gunman runs like a little bitch. We should all boycott gun free zones.

>>127225384
No it isnt my mate gun crime is still frequent here and we have heavy regulation. illegal firearms cant be regulated to why stop normal people having them because of dindus smuggling illegal guns.

>>127225384
Guns are effectively banned in quebec and there was a school shooting a few years ago anyway. Checkmate.

>>127230696
they must be spanish inquisitors.

>>127225384
Czech republic and Switzerland got guns but still have lower crime rates than we do. Its not the guns, its the people.

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Soooo, the consensus is that guns don't kill people, mentally ill people armed with easily obtained guns kill people.

Why are there so many mentally ill people in America and why can they obtain guns so fucking easily?

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>>127225384
Why can't you just fuck off? Why does it even matter to you, bong? You're not American, fuck off.

>>127249986
>Why are there so many mentally ill people in America
It's at the forefront of the Jewish destruction of the White race.

>and why can they obtain guns so fucking easily?
Because any readily available item has a black market.

Not that our firearm rights are subject to the mentally ill using firearms illegally, mind you.

>>127233768
you graph is only looking at half the problem....
look for violent crime statistics on the same timeline you will see it go up about x3

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>>127249986
>Why are there so many mentally ill people in America
Because they weren't shipped back to africa when we were finished with them.

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>>127225384
Hey, look, it the Time Telling Limey.

His show is awful. Low IQ.

>>127227798
/thread

>>127225384
How can you ban firearms in the US when more firearms exist than people. Furthermore, even if you banned weapons and the private sales of firearms, it wouldn't guarantee the people committing these would not have access to firearms in the future. It's also a completely unrealistic and ignorant request when you take other causes of death into consideration. I do see you gunshills calling for tobacco bans, or other causes of death which are larger in scale and easier to ban.

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>>127225384

No. Fuck off.

I have an AR15 because I want one. I don't owe anyone anything explanation

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>>127250243
So basically
>da Jooz did it.
?

You don't think that maybe having powerful lobby groups like the NRA who in turn represent arms producers bankrolling politicians to champion their agendas might have something to do with it?

>>127250682
Sorry
>da Jooz and niggaz did it.

>>127250927
I do not see*

>>127248371

>i'm afraid a teacher might be nuts and kill my kid
>i send my kid to this school anyway

Talk about child abuse.

>>127249986

Reagan shut down the asylum system.

We used to lock them up, now we let them be liberals.

>>127225384
He is right. We are a consumerist society. We buy shit to feel safe and we do not care if it actually make us less safe. We only care about how it make us feel. We rather let our children die before we give up our right to buy shit .

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>>127231086
Now, that was bad form on the part of the Texans. They held a "Draw Mohammed" contest, and every sport Hunter frowns on hunting over a baited field.

>>127225384
But there have been massive changes to gun regulations.

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>>127231223

>>127251471
And yes, the gun industry are evil and they have politicians in their pockets . Not even trump dared to disagree with them.

>>127251031
>>da Jooz did it.
Yes. They're behind opening the flood gates to non-White immigration, multiculturalism, diversity and even gun control.
If it wasn't for all those things, the USA would be much better off and much safer.

>You don't think that maybe having powerful lobby groups like the NRA who in turn represent arms producers bankrolling politicians to champion their agendas might have something to do with it?
No. The NRA defends our rights (admittedly not as much as I'd like).

Besides, the gun grabbers spend millions as well, why is that acceptable but the NRA isn't?

Again, our firearm rights are inherent. They are not up for debate.

>>da Jooz and niggaz did it.
If it wasn't for the Jews, the niggers wouldn't be doing it.

If we don't own guns, how do you expect us to shoot the rich? We aren't gonna win the class war with words alone.

>>127251176
I was saying this hypothetically and as an opinion not fact.

>>127251471
>We rather let our children die before we give up our right to buy shit .
Our rights are not subject to child deaths by firearms.

Also, stripping us of our gun rights does not make children safer.

Columbine happened during the Clinton gun ban.

>>127251763
>If we don't own guns, how do you expect us to shoot the jews? We aren't gonna win the race war with words alone.
ftfy

>>127251763
Shoot the rich? Is that a terrorist threat ?

What will you achieve with that?

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>>127225384
get bombed

>shoe bomber was totally not a conformed narrative agenda pushed by the deep state
>meanwhile people were hijacking planes to cuba like firesales in the 70s, so much so it became a running joke
>the security force (TSA) put in place due to this phenomenon was to dismantled in the early 2000s

One of these things is not like the other


really coggin' my noggin.

SHALL
NOT
BE
INFRINGED
(anymore than it has been)

>>127251763
If we take that seriously, you are a person who should not even be allowed to be near a toy gun

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>>127251357
>>127251748

Here's where the whole 2nd Amendment and freedumbs thing gets in the way
- ANYONE with ANY history of mental illness, whether it's being on meds to having to do court mandated programs is ineligible to [legally] obtain a gun or ammo.
>b-b-buh-buuuuut Muh rights!

See? You cannot have your cake and eat it. You either let everyone have a gun, no matter how fucking batshit crazy they *might* be or.. you acknowledge the the system is fucked and broken and start to fix it.

>ban lobbyists
>mandatory fingerprint/voice recog chips on all weapons from now, retro fit where possible with govt. incentives
>controlled sale of ammo as well as weapons

>>127252221
>>shoe bomber was totally not a conformed narrative agenda pushed by the deep state
He also tried to set off the plastic explosives with matches.

Which doesn't work.

>>127226655
Time to get rid of the brown people.

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>>127229374
>960x960
Fuck u

>>127252509

Everyone can already get a gun you retarded cuck.

There are more than half a billion of them currently in circulation in the United States.

>>127252509
You think you have me? lol. No, you don't.

>- ANYONE with ANY history of mental illness, whether it's being on meds to having to do court mandated programs is ineligible to [legally] obtain a gun or ammo.
If someone is so mentally ill that they'd kill people with a firearm, what are they doing walking the street?

Fix the mental health system to keep the dangerously mentally ill off the street. Leave our firearm rights alone.

Also, If they're walking the street, they have the right to self defense just like everyone else.

Gun grabbers believe anyone who wants to own a gun is mentally ill and they can get gun grabbing psychologists to agree. So if the mentally ill aren't allowed to own firearms, we're all labeled mentally ill. Thus, gun ban.

That argument also applies to violent criminals too...

If they're so criminally violent, why are they released from prison?
Fix the rehabilitation system and keep violent criminals off the street.

If they're non-violent and served their time. They have the right to self-defense like everyone else. Leave our firearm rights alone.

>>127225384
I can't bring my loaded AR-15 as a carry-on during a flight.

>>127225384
>Guns are the root of nearly every murder in the USA.
Guess who's holding that gun an overwhelmingly disproportionate amount of the time?
HINT-they make up 13% of the population and commit about half of all murders

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>>127251748
Don't mess with the NRA. They're part of the Deep State.

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because most gun-crimes are commited by niggers. and if you make guns illegal thne guess what, niggers will still go against the rules and get a gun

>>127225384
guns are banned at schools, checkmate liberals

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>>127225384
Easy. Guns are already banned from school campuses. By your logic we should be banning shoes from public areas all together.

>>127251985
First of all your right to bare arms against the federal government does not mean you will win in a fight against the US military. Any military branch can take all Conservative gun owners out. Have u seen how much money we invested in the military ? Add that with the police force.

Now, you are wrong. Active shooters cannot shoot anyone without a gun . I would gladly submit myself to a background check and even give up my right to fight the military if it will save lives

>>127253105
>Don't mess with the NRA.
My issue with the NRA is that they support some gun control.

They used to support the "assault weapons" ban and they currently support background checks and the restrictions on full auto weaponry.

That's bullshit because we don't ask the government for their permission to exercise our rights and our rights aren't subject to specific firearms.

Gun deaths are mostly niggers and suicides. Nothing important really.

>>127225384
Physics cannot be changed. If guns are banned a black market is created and any joe schmoe with a lathe and mill can build ANY PROJECTILE WEAPON HE/SHE PLEASES.

>>127225384
They're both tiny fractions of responsible ownership. 15 million gun owners and only 31 school shootings? Sounds breddy good to me.

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>>127252950
>he focused on the retroactive bit rather than the
>NO FUCKING LOBBYISTS
I can see which side of the bread you have buttered.
>>127253036
>If someone is so mentally ill that they'd kill people with a firearm, what are they doing walking the street?
>>127251357

>>127225384
Heart disease kills more people in the UK and US than anything. Deaths from gun violence are minuscule in comparison, but no one wants to talk about fatties because they don't want to be fat shamed.

>>127253304
liberal that doesn't support gun rights spotted.

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>>127225384
His argument is flawed because no one thinks the TSA is doing its job well; the flaw is that he's assuming people approve of the antecedent. "If X is okay how come not Y?" -> this is not a valid argument if the target audience doesn't approve of X

>guns are the root of nearly every murder
[citation needed]
Even if you removed guns, we would still have way more murders than you. Also, more than half of all gun deaths are suicide.
source: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/09/upshot/gun-deaths-are-mostly-suicides.html?_r=0

I'm gonna guess you've never lived in an area with tons of American blacks. Hint: karate won't be enough to take on a huge group of them, and it doesn't take much intelligence for them to come up with makeshift firearms.

Literally every premise of your argument is flawed.

>>127225384
>one failed attempt at a shoe bomb, and we all have to take our shoes off at the airport
>3000 people dead on 9/11 and NO CHANGE in the regulation of planes

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>>127253304
>First of all your right to bare arms against the federal government does not mean you will win in a fight against the US military.
But we can fight.

>Any military branch can take all Conservative gun owners out. Have u seen how much money we invested in the military ? Add that with the police force.
Pic related.

> I would gladly submit myself to a background check and even give up my right to fight the military if it will save lives
That's because you're willing to sacrfice your rights in a vain attempt to make other safer.

Our firearm rights are not subject to firearm deaths. It wouldn't matter if a million people died every year to firearms. That does not mean I must give up my rights.

>>127253686
Always archive sites renowned for shilling and clickbait. Thank you.

https://archive.is/WimNI <- nytimes.com article

>>127253304
Many military types are gun owning conservatives. Give up your own rights yourself loser.

>>127253304
>Any military branch

actually false

>>127253593

Who the fuck gives a shit about lobbyists you retarded commie.

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>>127225384

ban assualt sporks

>pic related

If guns save life's why do we have to walk through metal detectors before talking to a politician?
Either they do not want to be safe or they know that the outside world is unsafe but they do not care about us.

>>127253593
>>127251357
>Reagan shut down the asylum system.
And? Regan at one point also supported an assault weapons ban. I'm not a Conservative Republican and I'm not certainly a Regan worshiper.

As I said...fix the mental health system to keep dangerous people off the streets and leave my firearm rights alone.

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>>127253712
You should have the longer version of that pic.

>>127253900
Lives

>>127253713
Thanks Norwaybro.

That article does scream clickbait because no one thinks that suicide is such a prominent factor in gun death; I sure as hell didn't believe it until I looked it up.

Is that the fgt who got caught using tax loopholes to pay effectively nothing on his NYC property after repeatedly hassling 45 about his taxes through 2016?

There's 330 million people here in the most multicultural country on the planet. School violence is going to happen. Pretending it's a problem with a realistic solution implies that your IQ is on the lower end of the South Sudan national average.

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>>127253900
>If guns save life's why do we have to walk through metal detectors before talking to a politician?

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>>127253616
Sugar/fat tax.
Use revenue to retro fit fingerprint chips to guns

Gun nuts will say that's imposing their right to get their pudgy fat fingers into the trigger guard when they come home and find a young black buck on top of their missus....

>>127253918
Calm your farm m8 - I was using your post to argue with another anon.

Idk why I laughed in a very evil way.

Probably because it's John Oliver saying it.

>>127226655
>Neither shoes nor bombs are protected by the constitution.
>we don't have the 9th amendment and 2nd amendment to protect both of those things

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>>127253942
I prefer the dumb fuck heads version more. but yes, I have that one too.

I also considered posting this one.

>>127225384
1) You don't buy shoe bombs at the store and do the paperwork that comes with it
2) Canada is a gun crazy country, yet the gun crime rate is nowhere near as bad as the US
3) Guns are illegal here but it doesn't stop criminals from obtaining them, infact all our laws do is impede us from defending ourselves.

>>127254095
>Calm your farm m8 - I was using your post to argue with another anon.
Sorry, looked like you were trying to argue against me by saying "oh we had a competent mental heath system until Regan fucked it up!"

>>127225384
it is just life of living in a big country get used to it

>>127225384
>one criminal with an illegal gun
>all legal gun owners are punished

>multiple terrorist attacks by radical Muslims
>no mass deportations, instead ever more are brought in & share no blame

Really jogs the ol noggin

>>127225384
Many terrorist attacks in Europe since 2010, yet no changes on immigration. Sad

>>127225384
They dont fly schools into towers

>>127254095
>Use revenue to retro fit fingerprint chips to guns
So how are you going to force everyone to turn in their guns to get the tech added?

And how are you going to promise a 100% working rate?

>Gun nuts will say that's imposing their right to get their pudgy fat fingers into the trigger guard when they come home and find a young black buck on top of their missus....
It is.
You're restricting our rights to keep and bare arms by making certain things required by the government in order to use them.

>>127254095

>Use revenue to retro fit fingerprint chips to guns

You understand that you are mentally ill, right?

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>>127225719
100% correct. You can never trust those cucks who bow down to a satanic pedo German family.

>>127246524
>I don't agree with arming teachers
Why?
I say this because I have a feeling this opinion of yours isn't very well thought through
FYI ccw holders are significantly less likely to commit criminal acts or even accidentallyshoot someone compared to a police officer so if your reason is anywhere along the lines of "duh kids might get shot accidentallyby duh teacher" just no because this isn't backed up in any reality we live in including states that have stopped denying teachers their right to carry at work if they choose.

>>127225384
Your utopian wet dream where only the police get to carry weapons around, and the rest are criminals who purchase them on the black market sure sounds nice; except for the part where every able bodied citizen who is guaranteed the right to arm themselves by the constitution CAN'T.

Yeah retard, America is one big school...

>>127253712
>Our firearm rights are not subject to firearm deaths.

First of all, you are right. You can be a good guy with a gun and still favor more gun control so bad guys do not have access to guns.

You could be wrong if you gun gets stolen by a bad guy or if your lobbying makes it easy for bad guys to buy guns.

>>127255080

>muh lobbying

There are half a billion guns in the united states.

It is literally impossible to prevent someone in America from arming himself.

>>127225384
How many Muslim terrorist attacks have been committed in your country?

ALL OF THEM WERE COMMITTED W/O GUNS.

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED, COLD DEAD HANDS YOU LIMEY FAGGOT.

>>127254021
I am not against guns . I just think that some people should not be allowed to have them.

>>127225384
Karate lessons don't do good against an illegally fire arm, son.

>>127255080
>First of all, you are right. You can be a good guy with a gun and still favor more gun control so bad guys do not have access to guns.
>You could be wrong if you gun gets stolen by a bad guy or if your lobbying makes it easy for bad guys to buy guns.
If someone is so bad that they'd kill innocent people, get them off the street.
If they're not so bad, they have the right to self defense like everyone else.

>
If bad guys are so bad that they'd steal and kill, what are they doing walking the street?

Get and keep them off the street and leave my rights alone.


>>127255288
>I just think that some people should not be allowed to have them.
Then you're in favor of restricting the rights of American citizens.

I believe everyone should be allowed to have firearms if they wish.

If they abuse that (or other) right then they lose their freedom (prison). All the while maintaining the freedom of the whole.

>>127225384
>shoe bomb at airport
>change security policy at airport
>shooting in school
>change gun policy nation-wide

Nigger detected

>>127255550
>>
>If bad guys are so bad that they'd steal and kill, what are they doing walking the street?
>Get and keep them off the street and leave my rights alone.
Shit, meant to delete that part. ignore that.

>>127225384
Taking off our shoes at the airport is stupid.
Schools are gun free zones.

>>127255252
The US might be the only country where it is possible to keep bad people from buying guns. Other countries can make it more difficult and expensive

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>>127225384
>radical mudslime terrorist attacks weekly
>you have to take in more mudslim

stay cucked achmed

sage

>>127255679

Why are liberals so unable to accept reality?

There are more guns than people here. You aren't stopping anyone from getting one if they want one. Fucks sake you can barely keep them out of prisons.

>>127255874
>Why are liberals so unable to accept reality?
Because if they could accept reality, they wouldn't be liberals.

>>127253304
>First of all your right to bare arms against the federal government does not mean you will win in a fight against the US military. Any military branch can take all Conservative gun owners out. Have u seen how much money we invested in the military ? Add that with the police force
This is an argument for why we the people should be better armed and exactly why gun control of any type should be opposed. It's also the reasoning behind the founders of this nations opposition to the very idea of a standing army and the fact that out very Constitution is written as to make it legally impossible to maintain a standing army (we get around this today with the NDAA which technically reforms the army every 2 years to get around this) during times of peace.
Or it's just a pitiful admission that we should just submit which should be ignored.
> Now, you are wrong. Active shooters cannot shoot anyone without a gun . I would gladly submit myself to a background check and even give up my right to fight the military if it will save lives
That's the fallacy anon.
Not only does all evidence show that gun control doesn't stop said people from obtaining firearms or other means to cause equal (or even greater destruction. Bombs are much easier to use impossible to defend against unlike a killer with a gun) destruction and crime but it leads to more innocent people becoming victims because you're now restricting or ending the legal protection for them to legally defend themselves of which defensive use of a firearm as an absolute minimum outnumbers violence committed with a firearm by at least 10% with upward estimates over 3to1 in favor of defense.
Sources next