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Does anyone actually believe 9/11 wasn't an inside job?
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>>127178310
NUCLEAR DEMOLITION
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>>127178310
i'm sure there's a good chunk of retards here that unironically believe 9/11 was an inside jerb
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>>127178310
Most Americans on /pol/ seem to still believe the official narrative and they are super touchy about it (present company excluded).

Other flags will debate with you, Burgers will just insult you, call you a retard, etc.
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>>127178409
Beautiful
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>>127178310
I thought controlled explosions were supposed to create cinders
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>>127178409
Smoking gun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XHm56O2NTI
FBI reports
http://www.scribd.com/collections/4010452/9-11-The-Dancing-Israelis-FBI-report
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>>127178310
You see it get unstable in the middle first.
It has been weakened.
Maybe because fire weakening stell and a plane crash nearby demolishing by debris?
Just a vague idea.
If not holoprojected gamma demolition.
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>>127178762
If you actually care to learn more about this, look at the NIST report they did for WTC7. The simulation only showed the first 30-40% of the collapse and it wasn't even accurate. The full report on WTC7 is classified.
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>Three loud booms precede tower collapse
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zatgexUeP84

>Witness reports three big explosions before tower collapse
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1nYx-vG5cKA
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>>127178310

Anyone who unironically says this building was taken out by office fires is insane. Off the rails, no sense of reality, INSANE.
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>>127178930
Well you hear what I said.
If I would false flag I would make it simple:
Double-agent a few lost souls and convince them to fly into a building in the name of Allah.
You make it way too complicated.
But whatever you opt to believe to make your life more interesting anon.
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>>127179029

Bush jr gaffing and saying straight up explosives were used, he stutters immediately after and drops his head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpcJyn3N5ks

12 minutes of eye witness accounts and audio tapes of explosions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YcyTPg2CnE
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>>127179049
Most people are insane these days. They can't understand things like if A is A it cannot be B.
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>>127179049
Weakened steel, debris damaging building more than expected.
Steel column having to carry too much weight.
Get a job.
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>>127178310

I knew some bluepilled people who were otherwise pretty smart and refused to accept it. idiots.
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>>127179054
>simple
- What if the hijackers miss the plane (due to a hangover from one of their devout Muslim booze and stripper parties)?
- What if they chicken out?
- What if a plane is delayed or cancelled?
- What if the passengers overpower them?
- What if their (bad) Cessna training is not enough to fly the jetliner?
- What if the plane is intercepted or shot down?
- What if they miss or clip the tower?
- What if the crash does very little meaningful damage to the building?
- Now what if any one of the above happens to one of the OTHER two planes?

Yes, such a simple, flawless plan. So much smarter than rigging the buildings to blow.
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>>127178310
Do you unironically believe that the USA need an inside job to topple dictators in the middle east?
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>>127179054
Flight 93 was supposed to Allah akbar into WTC 7.
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>Larry where were you on september 11?
Um.. you know.. uh.. I was.. home.. uhh.. and.. I..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fhl5h86Qq0
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>>127179536

Wars are won in hearts and minds sheepdip. Without the context they would've been wildly unpopular with the general population.

Also kraut cuck can get fucked and go jump off a bridge. Your reasoning is insane and holds no basis in reality whatsoever.
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>>127179527
Then it wouldn't have been a happening.
Rinse and repeat.
Doing hat you think has happened involved way more risk of getting detected and we are not talking about your holo-planes.
Don't be stupid, seriously.
Next you tell me about Boston Bombings and fake blood right?
Same:
If I would do it I would simply search my NSA database for two lost souls, double-agent them making them think I am Al-Quaeda/ISIS/Whatever they were looking for, tell them to be ready and make them strike when I feel like it.
Much much easier and much less risk of getting discovered.
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>>127179527
FLIGHT 93
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>>127178368
Controlled nuclear demolition for fears of insurance companies not paying up.
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>>127178310
I believe a lot of conspiracy theories but this one never made much sense to me.

MAYBE the government knew it was coming and let it happen, I could see that. I don't think they conducted it themselves
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>>127179919
I agree with you 100%. It's my biggest critique of the whole nonsense. When I look at these things I try to plan them as though I were doing it.

A plan involving thousands of pounds of explosives, hundreds of co-conspirators, and working around the busiest buildings in the world. There are so many ways such a plan could go wrong. For them to pull it off flawlessly three times is absurd.

I'd just call up some buddies at the Saudi and Israeli embassies, have them find some terrorists to give my plans to, then turn a blind eye as they did it.
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>>127178310

Thats like pearl Harbor, everyone saw that coming but bush didnt do anything because he wanted that delicious oil an weapon sell
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>>127180377

Its not that big of a stretch all things considered. Intelligence agencies operate in that capacity all the time without batting an eye.
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>>127178310
It wasn't an inside. It was an (((outside))) job.
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>>127180377
>What is the Manhatten project?
https://www.quora.com/How-was-the-Manhattan-Project-kept-secret

You should have learned from Jimmy Saville how well secrets can be kept.
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>>127180377
>because jew york has no mob ties
well then, case closed
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>>127179988
What flight?
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>>127180325
Explain building 7 in the context of your theory
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>>127179686
According to the (((New York Times))) he is best friends with Benjamin Netanyahu
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>>127180600
We're talking about the biggest false flag in history. Do you have any idea how labor intensive a controlled demolition is? Nevermind the sheer luck needed to install the hardware to bring down two 110 story without being noticed by any of the 10,000 people working in the building. It's a logistical nightmare. No way anyone with a brain would green light such a project. They'd just turn a blind eye as someone placed car bombs in the basement, and when that failed, they'd turn a blind eye as people flew planes into the towers.
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>>127178409
Found the retard.
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>>127180692


They were also in full control of the building and had full access after hours. It would be an absolute cakewake to set it up for demo without anyone noticing. you could do it with 20 guys over the course of a few months easily.
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>>127180937
Notice this clown is not in any way addressing the evidence of explosives, such as the freefall collapse of building 7.

2 planes cannot knock down 3 buildings.
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>>127180692
All those scientists were kept in isolated laboratories for the duration of the project.

There's no need to create such an elaborate plan with thousands of points if failure, when a simple hijacking would work. It doesn't make sense.
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>>127180377
>For them to pull it off flawlessly three times is absurd.
Demolishing three buildings as has been done thousands of times throughout history = absurd
Not absurd:
>Office fire destroys a building
>...into DUST
>rapidly
>symmetrically
>for the first and only time in history
>not once, not twice, but three times
>all in the same place
>all on the same day

Got it.
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>>127178310
that building isn't wtc 7
what is the end game of your disinformation campaign?
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>>127181118
> "a simple hijacking"
> three buildings collapsed.

pick one.

It was the Israeli government/Mossad. Not the U.S. Government
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>>127181206
Yes it is. Clown.
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>>127181127

An appeal to impossibility is not an argument.
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>>127179449
Are you literally retarded? How does a building that doesn't get hit but a plane have weakened steel? It just decided to go weak at that exact moment? Neck yourself for being so stupid.
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>>127178310
Trump would have revealed it if that was the case.
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>>127178310
Building 7 is what redpilled me on 9/11.
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>>127181101
Look at the other pictures if tower 7. It had a huge chunk missing out of it.

>>127181127
You would need MILES of det cord, and literally tons of explosives. All of which would need to be installed on a significant number of load bearing beams without anyone noticing and without the evidence being found in the wreckage.

It's a logistical nightmare. Why would they do this instead of just turning loose some Saudi terrorists?
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>>127178310
peoples over 90IQ
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>>127181303
What you are saying contradicts the NIST report.

The damage was minimal, and even the NIST report acknowledges that the tiny amount of damage had nothing to do with the collapse.

Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nyogTsrsgI
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https://youtu.be/Gllsgu1HoFA
KITE HIT STEEL PLANE MUST
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>>127179680
You mean the plane that never existed? Literally they showed an empty field and said that was the remnant of the plane. No steel frame or anything at all. Anyone who believes that is just an idiot.
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>>127181214
Of course the US government turned a blind eye to it. My problem is with the idiots who think the US is above greenlighting a terrorist attack.
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>>127178673
i thought Hasbara would show up on a thread like htis
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>>127178310
Come on the CIA would never do a false flag operation..opps:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-07/ever-growing-list-admitted-false-flag-attacks

But they are not allowed to operate on US soil..shit:
https://www.infowars.com/33-conspiracy-theories-that-turned-out-to-be-true-what-every-person-should-know/
>inb4 infowar, you can find this info on tons of sites, even jewpedia
So yeah there is totally no precedent for the government fucking citizens over and lying for decades
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>>127181272

and collapse with the classic demo kink. At least Larry had moment of kindness with building 7 and told the firefighters to evacuate before he "pulled it"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34XrI2Fm6I
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>>127181425
And what you are saying is ridiculous. What possible reality do you live in where anyone with a brain would rather do a controlled demolition over greenlighting a hijacking?
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Did people die in WTC 7 or was it evacuated?
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>>127179686
Are Silversteins lower on the totem pole than Goldsteins?
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>>127178673
What is it with you jews and cinders?
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>>127181631
evacuated
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>>127178310
what are you talking about?
symmetric collapse at free fall speed is completely normal for a steel frame building that has been on fire for 5 hours
now go get some sleep goy
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>>127181250
no it's not
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>>127179919
>holoplanes
>Boston bombing
What are you talking about? I didn't raise either of those things.

Why is there any risk of being detected? George Bush's relative owned the company that did security for the WTC. If you wear a hi-vis jacket and a hard hat you can do anything and no one will bat an eyelid.

I somehow don't think TPTB would be content sitting around twiddling their thumbs waiting for one of their plans to finally work so they can enact their schemes. They make things happen, they don't rely on luck.
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>>127181631
>Did people die in WTC 7
Everyone was out, it didn't collapse until about 5pm est, a good 8 hours after the planes hit wtc 1,2
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>>127181580
Hijackings cannot knock down three buildings, or even 1.
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>>127178310
There were fires. If you look at the video from another angle before it collapsed you can see they had a server storage AND super computer on the roof.
The fires spread, a gas main leaked or some shit and the tremendous weight of the server room crashes through all the stories putting a massive doughnut hole straight through building 7. This weakened it just enough for the whole thing to wobble and weaken. Down came the tower. If anything the person who decided to build that thing on the roof should be arrested. The density of that room and caused it to collapse from weight.
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>>127180377
What is with you retards that can't see explosions coming out of the windows on the buildings? Do people not watch the footage or do they just block out the fact that you can clearly see explosions blowing out the windows of every building that collapsed? I mean it almost seems like people want to believe the story just to believe it. It makes me want to fucking kill you retarded for being so stupid. "The Muslims who couldn't even fly a tiny jet and couldn't get their pilots license were able to fly a commercial airplane thousands of miles and hit exactly where they wanted to" I mean think about what you are saying.
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>>127181675
You are a dumb faggot that cannot even get your story to match with NIST. There are about 12 camera angles of WTC 7 collapse on youtube. You are too much of a stupid faggot to look.
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Only conspiracy that's plausible is that they allowed the attack to happen. Anything else is retarded.
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>>127181253
It's an appeal to improbability.
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Flight 93 was for the white house. I thought that was common knowledge?
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>>127181810
Everything this dumb faggot is saying goes against the government/NIST report.

It is incredible how often people just start spewing garbage to justify the obvious controlled demoliton/free-fall speed collapse of building 7.

MEMO TO DUMB FAGGOTS: At least get your story to SEMI match the National Institute of Standards and Technology if you want to spread your stupid gibberish.
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>>127178310
>What did they mean by this?
Gravity goes down?
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>>127181580
A reality where people want a plan that will actually work.
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>>127181845
They hijacked the planes when they were already in the air. They just needed to steer and throttle them.

If you wanted to bring down two skyscrapers in the middle of Manhattan would you go through the trouble of rigging two 110 story buildings with explosives, or would just give the plans to your allies in Saudi Arabia and turn a blind eye as they flew planes into the buildings.
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>>127181990
This anon is too stupid to understand the concept of free-fall speed.
Feel bad for him.
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>>127181810
Have you ever seen a building demolition? The only time a building falls uniformly is when controlled explosions are used. Show me one time in the history of the world where an accidental building collapse happened and entirely mirrored a controlled demolition. You can't because you are retarded and should be gassed for being so stupid.
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>>127182022
Because flying a 30,000lb jet loaded with 5000 gallons of jet fuel into a building at 500mph isn't enough to collapse the tower..
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I thought it was strange that all buildings collapsed straight in on themselves. Why didn't any of the 3 fall crooked? WTC7 falling down straight in on itself is ridiculous.
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>>127181974
Look at the god damn energy storage thing on the top of the building.

The building loses windows as it falls through.

The weight of the server/utillities room forces it down the wtc 7's throat.

Way to much weight. Beams lost support from fire. Watch it from a birds eye view. The reason it collapsed was because they thought they could safely store all that heavy data and energy utillities on high instead of the basement.
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>>127182073
What happened to the detonation cord? You would need MILES of the stuff to pull off such a job. Yet, the volunteer firefighters never found any...
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>>127182073
This poster is correct. A steel framed building has never collapsed from fire, even fires that lasted for 24+ hours and engulfed the buildings entirely.

The only way a building can fall uniformly at free-fall (like WTC7) is if all beams are cut at the exact same time.

>>127182147
Two planes cannot knock down three buildings.
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>>127181990
Yeah just like your mom
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So remember in 98 when the towers were 'bombed' the first time? Yea...the only reason 112 stories didn't decide to domino into the new york skyline was because the dumb fuck parked in the wrong spot. Had he parked in the right spot and not got turned around in the parking garage, tens of thousands would've died. Government saw this and said that's actually really bad. So they took a contigency plan that the terrorists might try again and 'renovated' the towers for a couple months with demo charges. Skip a few years... hear some rumors...new crew on board, perfect opportunity. They scrambled jets to make it seem like a bigger attack then was hitting other targets. But only after that first plane hit. sure it might've burned out...fire dept might've handled it. but why risk a domino effect...even if it was just the top quater of the tower...that's 20,000 dead compared to 3,000....but why wait? There are other incentives.... frienddude just reupped his insurance on your whisper, daddy boy gets a vengence, and the old fucks get their payday.


"Pull it".
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>>127182224
The NIST report completely disagrees with everything you just said.
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>>127178310
Hey dude did you watch the
>tucker hates alex jones
>alex jones interviews tucker
videos today?
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>>127182330
Yes I did.
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>>127182041
I would rig it with explosions are you retarded? You really think having some retarded muzzie taking control of a commercial plane mid flight and then trying to navigate New York's skyline looking for a specific building is a better way to destroy a building than bombs? I feel like I'm talking to a literal retard. Why don't they use planes more in the destruction of buildings then?
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>>127182229

nah man youre wrong
>muh conspiracy

fuck off to /x/
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>>127182197
Correct.

Here is 2,000+ mechanical and structural engineers explaining building 7 in under 14 minutes. If you are too stupid to understand this video please kys.

Mystery of Building 7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nyogTsrsgI
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>>127182357
Ok im sending my people to get you!
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>>127182073
Have you ever seen what a high density object like a server room can do with only a little bit of speed? It was like dropping a steel boulder on someone from 40 feet up in the air. It looks controlled because it really is a uniform direction in which it travels. Then it just kind of folds.
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>>127182419
The National Institute of Standards and Technology did a report on building 7.

They all think this poster is mentally retarded.
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>>127178310
Saying it was an inside job is a bit of a stretch but the circumstances are indeed suspicious when you take into consideration the truth about Pearl Harbor and Lusitania
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>>127182272
muh Tower 7

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2056088/Footage-kills-conspiracy-theories-Rare-footage-shows-WTC-7-consumed-fire.html
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>>127182370
Because sending a message of shock is important. And they did try with bombs... and failed. and remember you can have both; muzzie into building, use explosives already there to minimize damage with maximum impact.
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>>127179686
Silverstein 2020
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>>127179029
Not saying its fake but I have seen other videos uploaded on youtube that have obvious fake explosion sounds edited in
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It was an inside job to implement invasive "safety" procedures so people would slowly get used to having their rights stripped away.
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>>127182553
This fire is acknowledged by NIST and the Architects and Engineers for 9-11 truth. This poster is simply too retarded to understand what is being discussed.
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The thing you anti-conspiracy nuts (see what I did there?) don't consider is that once those buildings got hit, there would only be 1 option left... to bring them down with demolition. You wouldn't be able to repair those buildings and you wouldn't be able to just leave them standing there either. Demolishing those buildings would be a logistical nightmare if you had to do it by the books, you'd have to evac the entire city, you'd have to consider the costs of damage to the city after demolition, it would just be impossible to do it by the book.

If they knew this attack was going to happen, and they were greenlighting the attack, then they also got ready with the demolition to take the buildings down.

Some of you are saying the only plausible bit is that they greenlit the attacks. No. They planned the demolition too, and just blamed it on the jets.
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>>127182370
I don't think you appreciate the elaborate undertaking a controlled demolition requires, especially when you're talking about two 110 story buildings in one of the busiest areas in the world. I'm not sure how anyone could be so arrogant as to believe such a thing is possible without a single witness or an inch if detonation cord being found.
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>>127182599
You think our government destroyed multiple building and information storages, so they can take off our shoes and hire a few thousand idiots? Are you a TSA agent that somehow wondered onto the internet today and found this place? Congrats for making it this far in life!!
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>>127182673
Where is the detonation cord? Surely someone found some evidence of explosives in the tons of rubble left.
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>>127182780
Thus is the prime example of my post.
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>>127182229
>no det cord found in the rubble
Ok, number one they didn't find ANYTHING in the rubble, both because it was immediately shipped off to China for recycling and because the buildings were turned to DUST - very strange for a gravity-driven collapse.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eSueQsVsk_M

Secondly, they weren't looking for det cord so why would they find it? And how would a firefighter see some wire and know it was det cord rather than electrical wire.

And thirdly, explosives can be set off via radio. I doubt Bibi Netanyahu was sat next door with a big plunger to press.
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>>127182749
Remember when it was closed for months in '98 for 'renovations' after they bombed it?
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>>127182749
This poster does not understand that a filthy kike named Larry Silverstein (Benjamin Netanyahu's best friend) acquired the buildings just 7 weeks before 9-11.

He changed out the (((security company))) and ordered extensive (((construction))) on the interior of the building.
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>>127178310
I don't know how any americans can belive in anything that goverment or MAYNE STREEM MIDYA says. Larry Silerstein should be excecuted, entire property besides least valuable apartment should be seized from his family. Same thing with administration back then. And Jeb loses his stash of turtles.
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>>127182896
You mean the rubble that was immediately disposed of and not tested at all?
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>>127179988
Like you can make and receive calls on a plane.
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>>127182896
Several thousand tons.
I'm sure it's easy to rummage through that.
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>>127182599
Nah, it was an inside job to invade the middle-east. Iraq was only the beginning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXS3vW47mOE

Just redpill yourselves on 911 already, you faggots.
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>>127182780
Do you even know what the patriot act is?

It's amazing how many americans have no clue about what's going on in their own country
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>>127182970
Thank you for existing.
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>>127179527
if they fail then it's a failed terrorist attack and you sponsor another one.

But no, it's smarter to plant several tons of explosives on each floor of a skyscraper full of office workers without anyone noticing.
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>>127178310
ofc it was anon.
But forget about WHO did it for a moment.
The real question is, what actually happened that day?
The answer will point you to the guilty.
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>>127182896
There was every type of explosive evidence found in the rubble. From molten iron and molten concrete raging at 3000 degrees F (for up to 9 weeks) as well as un-reacted thermite.

You have not even spent 5 minutes looking into this topic.
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>>127181476
the wiki article has a few pictures of plane debris

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93
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>>127180058
That and it was empty of paying tenants and riddled with abpestos.
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>>127182419
No, it's like dropping a steel boulder on multiple floors made from steel and concrete from 40 feet. Or did all the floors turn into cardboard for some reason?
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>>127182229
Have you never heard of remote control?
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>>127181283
Would he? I honestly (((unironically))) think that trump wants what is best for the US. If the general public knew about this false flag there would be fucking riots in the street.
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>>127182953
>>127182908
What possible tests are there for det cord? They found all kinds of shit in the rubble. Surely they should have seen some evidence of the explosives.

The explosives don't turn the building into dust, you dumbass.
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>>127179686
Fucking hell. This amazing coincidence remained off my radar all these years.
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>>127183054
And not a single inch of det cord...
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>>127178310
A gravitational force pushing the WTC 7 to the ground?
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>>127178673
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>>127183104
Would collapsing an entire building like that turn it into dust?
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>>127183101
Sweetie, it doesn't work like that. There's no demolition system, even today, reliable enough to work on radio frequencies
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>9/11 was an inside job
>sell weapons to saudis
>9/11 was done by saudis

make up your minds
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>>127183203
The explosives just weaken the building enough for it to fall into itself, they don't turn the building into powder.
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>>127183089
Karate.
Break the boards by hitting the middle of them.
The whole thing bends out of shape.
Also to a server room a steel beam would be childsplay. Like a knife through butter.

Look at the building from the birds eye view. There is a video. Which collapses first? The server room or building 7?
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>>127183044
>it's smarter to plant several tons of explosives on each floor of a skyscraper full of office workers without anyone noticing.
Unironically correct.
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i'm sure the science behind this type of implosion isn't too complex, nor to conduct an enquiry into how it came about

fascinating bewilderment
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>>127183071
>cites wikipedia as proofs
my god ppl are dumb
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>>127183146
> found unreacted thermitic explosives.
muh det cord.
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>>127183272
Well not literally powder.
And I wasn't talking about the explosions, I was talking about the collapse. Pretty sure any kind of evidence would be pretty smashed up.
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>>127183089
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>>127183240
it was an (((outside))) job.
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>>127183219
Piss of shill, nobody with half a brain is interested in your stupid strawman
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>>127183104
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>>127183330
>thermitic explosives

Sweetie, thermite isn't an explosive.
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>>127183240
>what is a false equivalency
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these buildings were terribly designed... that's all.
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>>127179054
>implying you can demolish WTC tower by flying a plane into it
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>>127183407
It can melt steel beams.
Unlike jet fuel.
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>>127183407
if you make the powder fine enough it can be.

and that's what was found in the dust.

fail!
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>>127183376
more of an (((underground))) job
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>>127183407
Faggy, nanothermite has been used as an explosives by the military for decades.

You are just too much of a stupid faggot to know this.
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>>127183472
see >>127183370
and kill yourself
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>>127183379
>stupid strawman

Yeah, just keep believing that the government is competent enough to fill three active skyscrapers with tons of explosives without anybody noticing, detonate the explosives, then hide ALL the evidence. Yes, yes. This is much more likely than the US turning a blind eye as its former ally against the Mujahideen hijacks a few planes.
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>>127183511
WRONG.
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anyone got that video with trump talking about 9/11?
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>>127183530
Awesome, and how many of those were found? How were they detonated?
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>>127183576
you sound like a leftist.
>muh gubmint would nevr do dat! dey dindu nufin

9/11 threads sure do bring out the shills
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>>127183370
Why can't a plane fly through that? It's just a matter of force. A 30 ton plane flying 500mph has quite a few newtons behind it.
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>>127183104
>The explosives don't turn the building into dust, you dumbass.
You can literally see this happening if you bothered to watch the footage. Look how the dust blooms upwards and outwards, indicative of a large amount of energy being released.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hSApOavkHg8

They didn't do ANY tests for explosives. NIST freely admits that. Seems strange don't you think? Like they had a foregone conclusion already.
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>>127183674
It has already been established that you are too much of a dumb faggot to spend time looking into this topic.

If you weren't you would already know the answer to all these questions.
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>Jet fuel can't melt steel beams
>Thermite can melt steel beams
Fock off with this explosions bs.
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There should be more plane attacks if that was so effective to destroy the whole tower.
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>>127183703
You're just a CIA nigger trying to make the obvious truth of the false flag into a convoluted fringe conspiracy. Instead of investigating the Israeli-Saudi connection, you idiots have forced everyone to talk about the whole fictitious explosives.

FUCK OFF, KIKE
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>>127183863
Literally what I said.
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Remember how the BBC reported WTC7 collapsing while it was still standing in the background?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=677i43QfYpQ

Remember how the United States Secret Service, the Department of Defense, the CIA, the IRS and the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission all had offices there with countless files and investigations that went down with the building?

>Investigative files in the Secret Service's largest field office were lost, with one Secret Service agent saying, "All the evidence that we stored at 7 World Trade, in all our cases, went down with the building." Copies of emails in connection with the WorldCom scandal that were later requested by the SEC from Salomon Brothers, a subsidiary of Citigroup housed in the building, were also destroyed.
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>>127183863
It was explosives, and kikes did it.
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>>127183805
Thats the force of the building coming down. Not some fucking redundant explosives, you fucking kike shill. THERE ARE NO EXPLOSIVES. FOCUS ON THE FUCKING MOSSAD CONNECTION, THAT'S THE IMPORTANT PART.

FFS
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>>127183285
>be office worker
>just typing shit into a spreadsheet
>guy comes into my office
>he attaches an unmarked bag onto the beam in the corner of the room
>proceeds to unspool a a cable attached to the bag and drag it out the door
>just ignore it
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>>127183407
stop trolling and neck yourself
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>>127183863
Poor confuse little urchin

Just KYS please

that explosives were used and that Israel did it are both easily verifiable facts if you would only look at the evidence.
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>>127183860
The demolitions industry would literally be ruined if a well placed jet fuel fire can totally destroy a building.

Also every building ever constructed would need to be torn down and rebuilt due to the fact a fire could bring it down.
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>>127183931
> Salomon Brothers
(((cohencidence))))
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>People that know how to use the internet think 9-11 happened exactly as it was officially reported.

I'd get if you were old and didn't use computers much and you only absorbed the information that the tv box told you and presented to you, but you're on the fucking internet. There is so much bullshit when it comes to 9-11. C'mon folks.
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>>127183981
EXPLOSIVES ARE A FUCKING RED HERRING THAT YOU IDIOTS HAVE BEEN CHASING FOR A DECADE NOW! THEY DON'T EXIST. FOCUS ON THE SAUDIS
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>>127178310
https://vid.me/S5hj
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>>127184043
AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH

the cold hard logic has made my brain explode with cognitive dissonance

lol
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>>127183578
That is WTC4 I am talking about WTC1 , 2 and 7.
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>>127183498
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzF1KySHmUA
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>>127184026
Fuck off, JIDF. You can confuse these other idiots with your red herring, but I know it's you.
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>>127183044
>own buildings
>call israeli friends
>make them wear hard hats
>give them access to the elevator shaft
wow so hard
I guess you call the police every time you see a construction worker carrying a box inside a building?
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nukes and holographic planes are the red herrings.

kikes and thermite is the story.
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>>127179054
You fucking moron the problem is a plan would not take down the twin towers, but if the mainstream story was that some Muslim ducks planted bombs there, people would wonder how the fuck they got away with it. Hijacking a plane is more dramatic and thus will suspend disbelief more (a page straight from muh holocaust)
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>>127184059
Fucking image didn't upload.


It's a conspiracy.
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>>127181283
>the best goy would do something like that.
kek
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>>127184161
roflmao

changed your meds recently?
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>>127183284
Please, please watch this. If you don't have time just skip to about ten mins in.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OjvCNDF4RYw
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>>127184194
You realize those pictures were taken after they started the cleanup operation?
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>>127184043
Spilling 10,000 gallons of jet fuel isn't a common threat.
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>>127184154
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAJrFKxyriQ
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>>127183753
>what are Newton's laws
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>>127178310
yes, most people do
goes to show the power of propaganda and fear, and apathy too
the "conspiracy theory" phrase may be the most successful psyop of the last half of the 20th century
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>>127184238
Yeah, that's what I figured. Fucking JIDF at it again.

>goyim, look this, they look like explosions, we need to spend decades arguing about them instead of investigating the Israeli-Saudi connection
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>>127184154

this dumb hick completely misses the point.

there was no jet fuel anywhere near building 7
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>>127178310
>Does anyone actually believe 9/11 wasn't an inside job?
I called false flag from the day it happened. I'm 40 though, so being in my 20's at the time I was already well aware of government lies and the kikes. Plus the reporting was on par with the current year shilling even then, it was the last year I bothered paying for cable TV
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>>127184303
>text to speech

ayy lmao
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>>127184147
you are a fucking nigger to suggest nukes
gas yourself
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>>127184258
>pink hair
Dropped.
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>>127178409
>10$ was deposited in your account
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>>127183536
A plane would easily be able to penetrate that and blow out the other side with an explosion after coming to a stop at the center concrete.
t. civil engineer.
>>127183498
jet fuel can make steel very soft even before it melts.
https://youtu.be/FzF1KySHmUA
What you fail to understand is that an individual steel column is rated for a certain ultimate failure strength and a design strength which is usually 2-3x less than the ultimate failure strength. This factor of safety is key, and if a particular steel member is heated to say half it's melting point (easily attainable with jet fuel) it lowers the fail strength of it to very near or below it's design strength - resulting in failure and collapse.
>>127183203
>Would collapsing an entire building like that turn it into dust?
This structure was mostly steel, only the floor and central column had concrete with embedded structural steel and rebar. Not much of it turned to dust, many chunks would be intact around the twisted rebar. >>127183051
>who did it
It's very clear who did it. All reports and records point to the Saudi attackers who were on the plane, even black box recordings have them saying their names and speaking arabic, the infamous flight 93 9-1-1 call has that info. Ties to saudi deep state with ties to mossad/cia and rouge operations were made. None of this requires thermite or US gov't approval mind you, it's just a way for Leftists and muslim apologists (like this entire thread) to figure out a way to blame a WHITE MALE like George Bush instead of the obvious Muslim terrorists.
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>>127184154
OH MY GOD. This fucking video.
>300 degrees hotter than jet fuel burns in perfect conditions
>Small rod, not a construction beam
>FURNACE CONDITIONS = evenly applied, constant heat
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>>127184365
Care to calculate how many newtons a 30 ton plane generates at 500mph?
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>>127178673
>cinders
ne'er head of this shit bro
OTOH i heard that reinforced targets (like WTC7) cant be taken down with conventional explosives
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>>127181431
fake
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>>127183703
Thousands of people saw the second plane hit. All eyes were on the towers. Was it a hologram? This theory keeps getting more elaborate.
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>>127184289
Did you just make that up just now? Because you're wrong.
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>>127178310

Unfortunately it seems that there is much more going on, it is definitely a cover-up and a conspiracy but a inside-job is assuming too much.

When science points one way and you find yourself coming up with excuses to fit the official narrative, there is a rat.
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>>127184392
Keep bringing the lulz kid
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>>127184762
I'm just happy I can make you earn your shekels, you kike son if a bitch.
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>>127184576
His point was that steel doesn't have to melt to get weaker, he never claimed it would start to behave like the rod he showed.
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>>127178673
I thought gas chambers were supposed to have sealed doors
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Jews literally sent people to film the event, they were seen dancing/celebrating. Jew Silverstein bought the towers which were essentially worthless 6 weeks before they blew up, he and his children all miraculousy missed work on 9/11 , avoiding death. The only country which benefited from 9/11 was Israel, as it gave the justification for wars of aggression in the M/E which benefited USA not in the slightest, but helped Israel big league. The question is not did Israel do it, but rather what can we do about it?
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>>127180622
Anyone have this in better quality?
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>>127184828
this stupid hick doesn't understand 3 buildings collapsed.

Where was the jet fuel for the 3rd building?
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>>127184719
>science
Internet bro science. Suddenly everyone is a nanothermite demolition expert.
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AE911Truth.org
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>>127178762
>You see it get unstable in the middle first.
>It has been weakened.
no dude that's how controlled demos are done
by stages
first cut down the core, then take down the shell
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>>127184851
expose the kikes in every way we possible can. great summary.
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>>127184822
How does saying that Israel did it make you think I am Hasbara?

You are one very confused little munchkin.

https://www.infowars.com/art-students-in-wtc-connected-to-israeli-intelligence-service/
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>>127178310
Bush`s relatives have been working in the wtc as maintenance crews ( installation of cable networks , repair jobs etc pp ) . the owner had one serious problem : he could not rent his empty flats to customers , he was loosing money durings years .

1) "argument" : "nobody is able to istall explosives in such a huge building full of people without leaving a trace " . this argument is wrong from a - z ; if 3 levels are empty ( and only authorized people may acces the empty levels - ANY work may be done without disturbing neighbors above or underneath these levels .

how to keep things secret ( "not possible" says the mainstream media .

sorry , the ny mafia has killer teams ever since , 4 hitmen working together - omerta law applies - keeping a secret within a group of 4 or 9 people is possible .

reflection : drilling a hole in a concrete beam takes 5 min ( x number of beams ) ; installing a 5mm copperplate on a steel beam ( + semtex ) takes 5 up to ten minutes . covering the installation ( make it invisible for anyone visiting the level : max. 2 days ( new concrete , natural stone , colour on the surface - the whole installation is linked to the wtc intranet .

the installation of any explosive device on any (empty ) level takes 4 weeks in total if only ONE person has to do the job .

the explosive devices may remain for years in the building .

B. most tech documentation about the wtc towers "disappeared" from mainstream screens. In France , a documentation ( + interview) was shown ; the architect said ( "due to PLO ( 70s !!!plane highjacking !!) terror threat we designed a new tower concept - a fully loaded 747 could carsh into the tower without causing an immediate collaps ( also rfer to the B 25 crash in 1946 / fog ) . that means ( and we all have seen the crash ) : the impact does not lead to the collaps . proven fact : no aicraft would lead to a tower collaps - due to the re-enforced design - the 70s ( palestine highjackers + terror prob )
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>>127184710
No i didn't, you can even see one of the workers that were cutting the beams in your photo.
You think they would let them onto the scene right after the collapse
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I simply do not get how 7 fell down when there were WTC buildings closer to the 2 giant ones that fell and these that were close tanked A LOT MORE SHIT and were on fire LOT LONGER and didn't go down?
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>>127179054
fire cant take down steel and concrete buildings
only "happened" on 911
they didnt just take them down, they turned 1&2 into fucking dust
real building fire events see them sustaining prolonged fire (blazing inferno over 3 days) without collapsing
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>>127181925
Found the retard that believes there were hijacked planes on 911.
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>>127184921
Oh don't worry anon it was just a GLACIAL POTHOLE NOT LIKE THE ROCK MELTED OR ANYTHING

>“It’s been called the Grand Canyon of Lower Manhattan,” Mr. Pontecorvo said.

>https://mobile.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/nyregion/22rocks.html
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most people are retards. they still trust cnn fox nbc etc. they still think that clinton and trump were actually running against eachother. THEY'RE THE SAME TEAM.
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>>127178310
The two bigger building collapsing were shaknig the ground like crazy. It's not impossible that it collapsed from that alone.
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>>127185072
>Bush's relatives have been working in the WTC as maintenance

HAHAHAHAHAHA Jesus Christ. The argument now is that Jebs wife installed the bombs when she cleaned the offices at night?
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I wonder which one is the bigger fake news, Jewish demolitions aka 911 or holohoax.
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>>127185367
>didn't even bother trying to understand the NIST report.

You aren't even trying.
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>Bush only wanted to creat a second pearl habor and it worked perfectly
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>>127185115
who insured these buildings ? Münchner Rück ? I never found an answer . that is strange : if you have an insurance for your house - and it burns down - police and state attorny will search for years if it was an accident or if someone set the fire on purpose. as a shareholder of Münchner Rück I wanted to know : " did Münchner Rück had to pay for the wtc - no answer . 1 week later I had a black piece of paper in a black enveloppe in my mailbox
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>>127185034
You're a FUCKING C-I-A NIGGER. You idiots sit around and throw out these half baked ideas for everyone to chase so that we aren't looking at the Saudi Israeli connection to 9/11. As G-d is my witness, you will be brought to justice for your crimes against His Word.
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>>127185460
The Holohoax is a bigger lie than (((9-11))).

But both truths would completely slay the Jew Demon.
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>>127184576
the guys point is that it loses strength as it heats. If he had the temp at 300 below jet fuel it would still be lower than the design strength AND the factor of safety designed for - and thus fail in practical application.
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>>127184523
>A plane would easily be able to penetrate that and blow out the other side with an explosion after coming to a stop at the center concrete
Like how this plane totally BTFO this concrete wall?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jKNREZ_u8E8

Or how this car totally BTFO this concrete post?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o6lrtS_LcJ8

Come to think about it, how did the plane even get to 4-500mph at sea level where the air is so dense the engines inhibit speed more than enable it?

>jet fuel can make steel very soft even before it melts.
That video is the antithesis of science and is very easily dismissed - higher temperature, not a construction beam, furnace conditions.

Whistleblower from the company hired by NIST explains that even with hotter temperatures and longer exposures, they couldn't replicate the supposed structural failure of the WTC steel:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=onH4sAjFjgc

>not much of it turned to dust
Are you blind?

>blame a WHITE MALE
Pretty sure it was mostly an elite "Kabbal" responsible.
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>>127185570
What jet fuel was involved with WTC7? (none).
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>>127184258
>>127184258
Too high. Bowling ball is too high, dense but nothing compared to a server room to the face.

The glass too far apart as well as not bending like metal does...as for the concrete...
When all the forces are in balance it looks more like this.

https://youtu.be/zdIcyE6se-M
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>>127185397
Bush`s relatives had maintenance contracts with the wtc organisation . ( es hat keinen Sinn dein freches Judenmaul hier aufzureißen ) niemand will deinen Mist lesen
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>>127185118
I don't get it.

So they were cleaning up all the layers of debris, then they stopped to cut this beam at a 45 degree angle? Why? Was it still holding up some part of the building? Was it not a total collapse?
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>>127185524
So first I was JIDF, now I am a CIA Nigger.

Fertile imagination it would seem.

Mooslem by any chance?
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>>127178310
Did you know that 3 buildings wetn down not 2? I didnt even know this except a few fucking weeks ago
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>>127185665
LEAVE JEB¡ OUT OF THIS
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>>127184419
You sound like you couldn't pour piss out of a boot if you had instructions on the heel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lec9giab90I
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>>127185716
>CIA niggers and JIDF are different

Kike, by any chance?
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>>127179686
another trait of liars is that they will go way to into detail when they're trying to deceive

this guy spends like 3 full minutes just to say he had a doctors appointment when the attack happened and its mostly extraneous information
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>>127178528
It's called astroturfing.
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Wasn't this one brought down because it was weakened from damage? Thought I remember that being the case.
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>>127185781
I was awake to the (((nose birds))) when you were still in nappies kid
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>>127185821
You realize he lost billions, right? The insurance policy counted the attacks as one event instead of two, so it only paid out half the value of the property.
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>>127179049
you're missing the big picture
we all are insane
we all believe bullshit and whatever the crowd says
even us conspifags have the same design flaws, we are just as cattle as everyone else
we just choose to (pretend to) go to the fringe but we're still in the crowd and just as heavily influenced by it as the ones who huddle in the middle of it for fear of the fringe
this is why propaganda is so effective, because we humans are biologically vulnerable to influence
like take your fringe opinions and mindset.
do you know why you're having them? because you're taking "normal" people for a reference and an anchor and then artificially distance yourself from them, making it "real in your mind"
point being you are still focused on and referring to them, to the masses, to the crowd, the herd
it is the same with the reptilian freemason elite satanist fucks
they still exist by trying not to be like normal, slave people
they still refer to sophia (the planet's entity) and her children (human dna)
pissing on human dna is still being dominated by it
trying to be an alien is still being a human bean
there you go
hipsters are conformists
conspifags are sheeple
we just take a mental, artificial, superficial stance, but deep inside we're as cattle as anyone else
and the fucks who use this against us? you think they are away from DNA? ofc not
Archons may be but that's why they're a problem and they cant manifest in this reality
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>>127185996
And yet, here you are, doing there bidding like the good little poofter you are.
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>>127186008
not saying he was in on it but he does appear to be lying, maybe someone told him to not go into work that day just for the sake of saving the mans life
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>>127179686
Never seen this before. Wow, he seems like a total liar.
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>>127185508
>who insured these buildings ? Münchner Rück ?
Yes, they were the insurance company I think.

> as a shareholder of Münchner Rück I wanted to know : " did Münchner Rück had to pay for the wtc - no answer . 1 week later I had a black piece of paper in a black enveloppe in my mailbox
what do you mean by that?
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>>127186044

lol

And how is it that I am doing their bidding?

The physical evidence is undeniable that the buildings were destroyed by explosives.
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>>127179449
>a reinforced steel + concrete skyscraper is a flimsy tin tubes tent
your physics sense is remarkable
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>>127179536
the bush admin neocons published so before W's election
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>>127185630
Dude, you can see that the lower blocks are broken less than the top ones. Sometimes the blocks at the bottom aren't broken. So how does a server room destroy ALL floors and precipitate a total collapse without slowing down?

>bowling ball is too high
You mean if the ball was dropped from a lower height it would have smashed more panes??
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>>127186070
It's impossible to tell if someone is lying from a single interview. You have to establish a baseline before you can accurately weigh any deviations.
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>>127185821
Also he said his wife forced him to go to the dermatologist. Liars will often seek to distribute blame elsewhere and use the pronoun "we" rather than "I".
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>>127179919
>Then it wouldn't have been a happening.
>Rinse and repeat.
this shit was planned years in advance
you dont miss such a happening, it's been a coup, a major regime change
the patriot act was tens of thousands of pages worth and was voted in the following week
you goys have no clue what you're dealing with
your assumptions and questions are fine but that's all they are
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>>127186149
Listen here, you fucking fairy. We all know your fucking Jewish tricks. Knock it the fuck off. You think you're God's chosen people?HAHAHAHAHAHA. MOTHER FUCKER, I AM GOD!!!!
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>>127185072
1st step : the owner of the wtc has to hand over the insurance papers and he has to declare if he received money from the ( Münchner Rück ) org . Thats the first step in order to understand the event .

2nd.: who was employed in the wtc , who had access ( any modern building has an access control monitoring , since the first attack on the wtc in the garage below the wtc. if these information "dissappeared" one of these 23 brilliant us agencies should serach these protocols .

3rd: "steel" - beam is a pointless information . did the steelbeams concist of

1) construction steel ?
2) what was the quality ( St-52-III / german nomenclatoura ) or higher quality .
3) asbestos cover on the steelbeam
4) fuel payload of the crashed aircraft , how much fuel remains inside the building ( we remember the huge fuel cloud behind the tower mixing with oxigen and exploding outside .

ammound of kerosine * speed above ground / impact - expolsion inside and outsinde the tower.result : burning furniture and paper - WHERE is the INFRARED picture made by officials ( not a SINGLE infrared picture of the burning towers are available on the web !!! ( in Europe , any prof. figherfighter has such equipment , any us mil heli has such equipment ..NOT a single INFRAREDPICTURE available . that is strange . funfact : ny police helis made infrared pics- i ask for them - they will be published in the year 2099 .
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>>127185608
The exterior windows and facade are not reinforced concrete dingus.
>that video is very easily dismissed
why because you don't like it? It is a practical explanation for the layman the relationship between strength and temperature.
>higher temperature
The temperature inside the raging fire inside the towers would've been higher than a jet fuel temperature. The winds at that altitutde would be wipping through unrestricted feeding O2 into the fire, the office furnature and carpets are laden with long chain polymers (similar to the atlanta bridge fire) that burn at excessive temperature, and the fuselage of the aircraft would've contained many other combustable sources.
>not a construction beam
Yes i agree, the video only shows a small piece of 1/2" steel, a typical i-beam would be 1/2" steel with a larger surface area, but he used this size for a reason. The difference would be it'd take longer to heat up inside the same temperature condition.
>they can't replicate
Because you cannot know which of the interior structural members was the one that failed and caused the initial collapse. In a 3D environment, the interplay and resultant forces for the individual members is a complex relationship, when one fails the instantaneous stress applied to an adjacent member would be incalculable.
>Are you blind
Are you? look at the rubble pile in aftermath photos and tell me if you don't see large chunks of concete. The dust comes from the exterior facade which is not structural concrete.
>Elite Kabal response
A WHITE MALE murdered 3,000 americans sounds better to the average leftist than evil muslims murdered 3,000 americans.
>>127185625
glad you asked. After the towers collapsed this severed and depressurized the entire water main system for that city block. There would've been no sprinkler systems active and this office fire would've burned uncontrolled. Structural steel cannot take this stress. If this fire would've been on a top floor it wouldn't happen.
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why don't someone just build 2 new towers somewhere on a remote location and just ram 2 planes in them to put an end to this shit.
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>>127186615
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB5xHnFfVqM&t=78s

Because they would not penetrate the building.
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>>127185570
>300 below jet fuel
Does this look hot to you?

Besides buildings are built to code so they will NOT collapse during a fire. In the WTC case, the heat would have been redistributed throughout the conductive steel mesh of the building. And you're wrong to say 300 below jet fuel would be hotter than designed for. NIST tested the steel with hotter temps and longer exposures and couldn't produce structural failure.
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>>127186098
oh look the moor is a muslim apologist.
>>127186169
It's almost like you've never taken a structural steel class.
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>>127186738
Every time I make one of these threads the shills appear stronger than most threads
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>>127179919
btw this is the fallacy you're making, and it's a stable of conspi threads

IF (conspi theory is true) THEN (insert my personal assumptions) THEREFORE theory must be wrong

where you're failing is that in your mind you are actually starting up by cherishing the denialist conclusion (NO THIS CONSPI THEORY CANNOT BE TRUE OMGOMG) and then you come up with your retarded justifications for it (BECAUSE THEN BECAUSE IF BECAUSE MOMMA HELP ME WHATEVER IT TAKES), but when it's time to speak it out you invert this inner process's timeline in order to justify "your" belief (notice it is the cattle belief your media or society serves you in the first place)

so what you are doing is reproducing the mindcontrol that has been operated upon you all your life, the fear based deception
you have internalized it and you reproduce it like a good contaminated viral slave
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Idiots.

Just get redpilled on 9-11 already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXS3vW47mOE

9-11 is one of the OG classic memes, faggots.
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>>127179988
>phone call
oh yeah the unforgettable '"hello mrs smith" said by a son to his mom
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>>127186514
36 posts by this kike. This is how they slide threads. Spam threads with meaningless posts until they are archived. Please kys
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>>127186738
>>127186818
You stupid fucking CIA niggers will never control this board. Keep pushing your fucking Jewish tricks all you want but I know who you are. I can smell the circumcised cocks from here.
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>>127186986
Stop projecting, Kike. We all know you're pushing this explosion bullshit as a red herring to distract from people researching the Saudi Israeli connection.
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>>127186986
your conclusion : make sure that the kike has to leave your town . make sure freemasons will end up in prison .
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>>127187014
How is your "CIA nigger" theory even true, I posted the FBI reports of the 5 dancing israelis in original post, retarded faggot fuck off
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>>127187014
Calling people kikes doesn't make you any less of a shill, shlomo. Eat shit and die.
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>>127186842
I see this all the time - post-rationalisation.

What's interesting is higher IQ people are better at it, they are better at thhinking of excuses and explanations to support their view. "Why smart people believe dumb things."
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>>127186726
I wouldn't trust any pic you see in one of these threads. There are many muslim apologists who spend their days photoshopping to convince gullible white people like yourself.
>built to code so they will NOT collapse during a fire
yes, they are build to code, usually a factor of safety of 3x meaning what ever tensile/compression strength they HAVE to have on a steel member - if it were to increase by 3 it still wouldn't fail. That is why fire is so devastating, because it lowers that ultimate failure strength by about that much. The moment the stress applied is greater than the NEW failure load it fails.
>And you're wrong to say 300 below jet fuel would be hotter than designed for
I'm saying the melting point of steel is irrelevant, the reduction in strength is a gradient that starts from about 600C and drops off a cliff until there is zero strength remaining at the melting point of 2100C. So at 600C there is a reduction, at 800C there is a bigger reduction (factor of safety is dropping), at 1200C there is huge reduction (factor of safety according to design almost gone). It will fail at a temperature far below the melting point.
>NIST couldn't reproduce
What's to reproduce? Steel and its material properties are hard science. What they were attempting to test was the fire retardant coating that was likely damaged on impact.
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>>127180937
>operation northwoods
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>>127187111
>>127187130
Stop your fucking kvetching. We all know you kikes were behind it. As G-d is my witness, you will fucking repent.
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>>127187145
true
hence hillary's voterbase and the outcry at trump slashing education funding
working class people and the self employed are not so easy to fool as educated ungrounded fucks
you can even take this as deep as language and the written word itself: oral traditions are not as easy to fool as ours
africa niggers know a lot about ayys and fringe topics as a matter of popular culture because being orally based it's decentralized and less easily controllable
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>>127178310
as long as the most obvious questions are not answered by off. authorities things remain in the dark .

In Germany I went to 30 different material science institutes in order to discuss the steelbeam topic and the insurance topic ( TÜV , Münchner Rück , many others . NO ONE is willing to discuss this topic - nobody .

that is bizarr as these experts produce day by day tech papers for ships, oil platforms , all kind of buildings .

again : all relevant questions have been raised
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>>127187621
> I went to 30 different material science institutes in order to discuss the steelbeam topic and the insurance topic

>discuss

You mean you as an uneducated idiot wanted to tell a PhD in material science how he's wrong?
Geewhiz why wouldn't they talk to you?
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>>127186798
>oh look the moor is a muslim apologist.
wtf are you talking about?
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The implications surrounding this event being an inside job are astounding.
No one talks about it.
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>>127186586
>The exterior windows and facade are not reinforced concrete dingus.
Oh, so, the floors stopped halfway into the building and didn't reach the facade? How many bankers died falling down the gap between their desk and the window?

Dingus.

The facade was pretty thick steel too.

>why because you don't like it?
No because it has no merit. Why don't you stick your hand into a container of 20 degree C water and then for 320 degree "water" and see how it plays out.

>raging fire inside the towers
Wrong.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sSPyrmXYZLA

Have you even seen the footage of 9/11? There is no fire. Just thick, black (i.e., oxygen starved) smoke.

>the office furnature and carpets are laden with long chain polymers (similar to the atlanta bridge fire) that burn at excessive temperature
Ah so when architects design office buildings they don't take into account office furniture and carpets?

>it'd take longer to heat up inside the same temperature condition.
How long? 56 mins long enough? Also remember it's not the same temperature.

>incalculable
How do architects design buildings if they can't calculate the stress / load on individual beams??

>tell me if you don't see large chunks of concrete.
OK, I don't see large chunks of concrete. Pic related.
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>>127182272
He's right you know. Jet fuel cant melt steel beams.
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JEWISH LIGHTNING
,The Ultimate Edition
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>>127188121
That's because the media is a joke. Maybe the biggest lie in the history of your country and almost of the world in at least the lat 30 years and they don't talk about it anymore because of the fear of not being patriotic.
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>>127178310
Not many people believe it was an inside job.
Tin foil hat bat shit crazy talk right there, my friend.
In the 2000s I was a CAD wizard/structural designer who structurally designed many types of structures (skyscrapers to bridges to even a door header), created countless analytical structural models, and worked on many forensic projects in regards to failed structures. I supported 12 professional structural engineers, 2 of them PHD level, and 1 being on state and international building code councils.
I'd say 80% of us were totally calling bullshit on 911.

And yes I signed the AE911 petition way back when calling for a independent investigation, spoke in person with almost all of the characters in that movement back then such as Richard Gage, even went to the premier of Loose Change in Minneapolis. I'm sure all of us professionals with degrees, advanced degrees, and careers in the AEC sectors that questioned the official narrative are all just a bunch of tin foil hat wearing bat shit crazy mofos, RIGHT?
WRONG... we were just the ones who had the BALLS to say something. Most who didn't say something were worried about damaging their professional careers.
Just FYI, nowadays I create engineering software CAD tools for structural and electrical engineers typically. Bat shit crazy as ever too.
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>>127187288
>photoshopped
Here you go
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=APPrKNskn7Y

I would love to see a picture of the WTC with this 600C+ raging fire. Or a video.
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>>127178409
>Inside Jeb
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>>127187288
Path. Of. Least. Resistance.
Explain buildings falling in to their footprints...
Explain the Nasa thermal orthophotography of September 16th... YOU CAN'T.
Feel like I've been transported to 2003. If you think 3 buildings fell into their footprints from 2 planes, you are a fucking moron. Or part of a troll army.
Sorry not sorry.
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>>127181974
((((NIST))))
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gFtwmLDMVk

Glorious moment.
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>>127188244
I realize you're unfamiliar with structural engineering and strength of materials, but you should concede the point. The outer facade is not a load bearing structure and would be easily penetrated by a 767
>no merit
and the photoshopped grainy pictures you post have merit?
>There is no fire
holy shit you're a retard.
>Ah so when architects design office buildings they don't take into account office furniture and carpets?
>architects
this is how i know you're a retard, arcitects are glorified interior designers and if you think they have any sense you're mistaken. Regardless you find me an office without plastic and wood in everything ok?
>how long
modeling the interior fire with unknown damage to structural members and fire retardant coatings and cracking of concrtete superstructure/floors/shaft is iimperfect and you know it.
>how do architects design buildings
architects don't design buildings, structural engineers do. And my point was the unknown conditions after the impact.
>i'm blind and don't see concrete
yes i know.
>>127189177
>woman in hole for 20 minutes
show 4 second clip where she never moves.
>>127189857
>Explain buildings falling in to their footprints...
How do buildings fail in your view? those piles are 300+ feet deep embedded into rock sockets under the mud, it would never under any conditions fail by leaning to the side.
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it was hit by a fucking huge building.
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>>127184847
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>>127191107
>The outer facade is not a load bearing structure
Not sure if bait, LARPing or retarded. From fucking Wikipedia:
>Traditionally, skyscrapers used a skeleton of columns distributed throughout the interior to support building loads, with interior columns disrupting the floor space. The tube-frame concept, earlier introduced by Fazlur Khan, was a major innovation, allowing open floor plans and more space to rent. The buildings used high-strength, load-bearing perimeter steel columns called Vierendeel trusses that were spaced closely together to form a strong, rigid wall structure. There were 60 perimeter columns, narrowly spaced, on each side of the buildings. In all, the perimeter walls of the towers were 210 feet (64 m) on each side, and the corners were beveled. The perimeter columns were designed to provide support for virtually all lateral loads (such as wind loads) and to share the gravity loads with the core columns.
>LOAD-BEARING PERIMETER STEEL COLUMNS

I will never understand how people like you are so passionate about 9/11 but never BOTHER to actually look into it.
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>>127185492
ok ahmed, we know you're just trying to blame a white male and protect those poor innocent brown muslims who were framed and dindu nuffin'.
>>127192334
The concrete was not. His question is why the Windows didn't stop the 767. If you think a glass window and facade would stop a 767 you're possibly one of the stupidest people i've seen on /pol/
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>>127181303
>Why would they do this instead of just turning loose some Saudi terrorists?
how can you assume you can take that decision based on your extremely cursory apprehension of all the parameters involved in such an operation, not just at the realization but at its very decisional stage as well?
do you know why they did it?
do you know who?
do you know what they knew, and how they think?

and that's not even looking at the fact that fucking airliners or fires cant take down steel and concrete buildings
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>>127192334
>LOAD-BEARING PERIMETER STEEL COLUMNS
Yes. Loads that were transferred vertical to horizontal at every horizontal member, including the floors, like a mesh. And punching a hole in a structural mesh does not make the rest of the structural mesh fail. The buildings were designed to take 2 plane crashes per building, albeit smaller planes, but still designed for multiple plane crashes per building.

You still on shill contract from 2003? You get a lifetime anti-911 truth troll contract or something? WTF MAN?
Seriously, how can you defend the official story? How can you piss on 3000 lost innocent lives like that? Special place in hell for shit like you.
KYS and enjoy your eternal hell asshole.
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>>127183327
What the fuck is that webm about?
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>>127193533
There was a large troll army pushing noise and disinfo that 911 never happened and was CGI. If you think that troll armies are bad now, you should have seen them 2003-2007 about 911. Literal cube farms of psychological battalions working 24-7 to create noise and delegitimatize the 911 truth movement.
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>>127193837
>troll army
you mean a pro-muslim leftist army that wants to demonize white males as the perpetrators instead of the saudi terrorists.
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>>127178310
At this point, anyone who doesn't know about 9/11 is either a shill or a boomer.
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>>127178368
Red herring.
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>>127194059
>anyone who doesn't know about 9/11 is either a shill or a boomer
You're so smart and better than everyone else who doesn't understand it the way you do.
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