BMW OWNERS BTFO

>>127165816
GM sued for fudging emissions on hundreds of thousands of diesel pickups:

http://blog.caranddriver.com/hard-nox-general-motors-accused-of-rigging-diesel-pickup-emissions/

so what you're saying is that when I was just talking to a mechanic today about how I was hoping that in about 5-10 years my car would be a classic... that's gonna happen sooner rather than later? perfect. still wouldn't sell it for anything.

also

>z3 subframe issues and terrible interior
nah son, poor choice. the only good z3 is the M "clownshoe" wagon. even that, styling is just weird and price is ridiculous.

>>127165816
Beamers are junk today anyway....they are by far the highest turnover rate of new car purchases. Meaning when one buys a new beamer, several of their models are the quickest to get dumped.

You are literally better off getting a new lexus or even a buick...yes, a buick!

>>127166816
>buys a new beamer
>buys
>new
>beamer
also
>beamer

anyone with any sense doesn't buy a new BMW. anyone with any sense doesn't buy a low end BMW. a new one will depreciate so fast you'll be able to feel your wealth draining away every time you put your foot on the gas. a low end BMW isn't worth the first big maintenance bill. you buy something from when BMWs had real soul to them, before they went luxobarge and stuffed so many electronics into it that you get no feedback at all.

also beamers are the bikes. bimmers are the cars.

well this has been an interesting thread.

>>127165816
I only buy Japanese cars.
Because they are reliable, cheap and made by Goyems

>Buying german cars

Literally why would you do that? Expensive pieces of over-engineered shit.

>>127169850
Maintenance is expensive. One shock-breaker installation: 1500 $

>>127169850
>>127170221
>paying labor on car repairs
>ever
lol

>>127165816
American cars are fucking garbage. Everyone knows it.

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>>127165816
> Listening to poorfags tell me it's too expensive to have my car worked on
> When it's probably too expensive for them to even go out to eat dinner

Beamer rider here.
Bought my 2nd hand k1300r at half its retail price, 4 years old, over serviced with less than 10,000 miles on it. I am bloody happy with it. 0-60 in 2.8, 2nd fastest accelerating vehicle BMW have ever made, and it is still comfy as fuck.

They have stopped making this model now. I am sure on some level, this is Merkel's fault.

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>>127165816
Just bought a dodge challenger cause I wanted American muscle.

But dodge brothers were jewish...

Did I duck up /pol/?

>>127170834
This.
Japanese cars>German cars>Volvo>Korean cars>American cars>Russian cars>Chinese cars> Ford

>>127165816
>buy german cars
enjoy and expensive pile of shit

> over engineered means prices for parts are expensive as fuck
>expensive parts + planned obsolescence
>muh bells and whistles
>have to replace spark plugs in pairs
> have to replace disc plate every dam time you replace breaks


truly Germans are the Jewish car makers

>>127171290
You fucked up when you bought Chrysler. If you wanted Muscle you should have gotten something... you know... um... good.

>>127171462
Yes Juan, I'm sure THOSE are the reasons why you don't own a German car.

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>>127171290
Yes. Modern cars are garbage, they're full of so much electronic bullshit that they're impossible to fix half the time.
>Bought a 2005 Toyota Coaster to do a Motor Home conversion on
>Done them before on older model busses
>There's a fucking warning light flashing saying something is wrong with the Air brake
>Pull it apart
>There's fucking nothing wrong with the air break
>Warning is still on
>Spend weeks trying to figure it out so I can get it over the pits
>Say fuck it and just pull the bulb from the warning light (lel) and put it over the pits anyway
>No problems
>Hook the light back up once I get home

>Few months later
>Find a blown fuse
>No idea what it's fore
>Replace it
>Light goes off
>Fuse blows every time I turn on the left indicator
>I have no fucking idea why

And that's why I don't buy things made after 1990 anymore.

>>127171290
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upWSrMZ8H9Q

itt buttmad anglos

>>127171472
Name a muscle car with more horsepower than the Dodge Challenger Demon. 840 HP, 770lb torque.

>>127171768
BMW makes one of the best motorcycles ever. But the cars are fucking over-priced. That's why most Poles who like BMW buy Japanese cars. Just as good as German but much less expensive.

>>127171832
Your mother.

>>127171832
> HP is what makes a car good

You must be 18 to post here. And crushing over a car you don't have to bash cars you don't have or cant afford really makes you pathetic

>>127165816
cool all the americans working in BMW factorys in the USA are unemployed.

GG no RE trump you can deal with pissed gibs me dat recipients with no insurance and no future.

>>127171901
>That's why most Poles who like BMW steal them from Germany.
fixed that for you

>>127165816
Good. More incentive to buy a BMW or a German car

>>127171832
840 with race gas anon

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>>127165816
I love America but our cars suck dick.
Deal with it.

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IT'S HAPPENING

>>127171290
yup

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>>127165956
Literally every manufacturer of diesel-burning commuter vehicles did this

>>127171997
Fuck you dude it made a quarter mile in 9.8 seconds at 140 mph, faster than the bugatti neuron. It's a drag monster

>>127171832
>implies he can afford race gas or track time
Ha. Pathetic.

>>127172338
I've seen faster

>>127172178
Yeah your economy crashes again. You tryed to pressure Germany with you botched VW scandal and now trump trys to black mail Germany this way. When will you learn that you lost?

You really need a bullet thru your forehead to understand this?

>>127172123
Still 808 without

wtf, I hate germany now

>>127172367
Not a stock, street legal production car you haven't.

>>127172475
Take that shitty ass Demon to a drag strip and see if you don't get hung out to dry, dude. Or that shitty Challenger.

>>127172343
>projecting this much

I'm just saying Dodge is doing some incredible things m8 no need to get your panties in a wad

>>127172550
They're still built terribly. Chrysler quality is shit now

>>127165822
Are you abot

>>127172532
>being this mad
I just asked you to point out a more impressive stock muscle car and you're mad you can't. Why are you so assblasted?

>>127172338
So? Don't come in talking about a dream car you can't afford like you own one. Or else no one gives a fuck. You are a carLARPER. Bottom feeders that have shit and act like their dream is better than the good shit people actually own. And because of HP. wow.

REMINDER BMW STANDS FOR BLACK MANS WILLY

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>>127172338
Your dad is a drag monster
>>127172532
And you are a retarded nigger, the demon is the fastest production 1/4 mile car ever made and has already been banned from nhra competition. Suck aids from
>>127172338 's dad's ass and then neck yourself

>>127172605
>quarter mile in under 10 seconds stock
>at 140 to boot
>terrible build quality
Nigger are you stupid?

>>127172338
T. Straight line hero

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>>127172638
Literally every stock muscle car build before 1980. Including the shit ones.

>Missed out on this by 2 days, primo quality 1952 FX went for 18k

>>127172672
I was simply correcting some idiot saying Dodge can't make decent cars because they clearly can.

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>>127172794
What a piece of shit, no wonder nobody makes cars in abbostralia anymore

>>127172754
>takes shitty Dodge Challenger to drag strip
>gets laughed at by everyone
>can't learn how to drive it properly
>wreck it

>>127167272
You know, it's funny. I told my mom that before she bought hers new and it was just laughed off. Well guess who turned out to be right.

>>127171462
> over engineered means prices for parts are expensive as fuck
no more expensive than any other car I've ever owned.
>expensive parts + planned obsolescence
plenty of aftermarket to fix design issues. often cheaper. I just got a UUC lightweight clutch kit for less than the shitty dual mass system
>muh bells and whistles
learn to work on bells and whistles. enhance your skills.
>have to replace spark plugs in pairs
who the fuck doesn't replace all the sparkplugs at once? if one needs go, they all need to go.
> have to replace disc plate every dam time you replace breaks
stop buying shitty brake discs/ matching them with the wrong shoes.

this is why I don't let anyone but me work on my car. I did it twice and it's always a mexican tech, and you guys couldn't tell a spark plug from an injector.

>>127165816
Thats ok, I own a mercedes.

>>127172995
Which model?

>>127165816
we c BMWs black mans willy here

>>127172223
Yeah but now they are all getting caught. FCA, VW, Mercedes, and now GM. Only BMW really has kept its hands clean.

>>127172938
See
>>127172731

I couldn't take my Challenger Demon to any track, the nhra banned it because it's too overpowered

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>>127173027
My only regret is that it's auto

>>127165816
Rather German than anything "from" the United States.

Do you even make cars anymore?
I mean General motors has been closing factories like it's no tomorrow.
Chrysler is already a subsidiary of Italian Fiat
Ford was already looking to move a lot of their production to Mexico.

So you'll be left with? Tesla?

>>127172836
No. They don't make good cars, and by saying Dodge you are an idiot. They are Chrysler, and are dog shit. Going real fast in a straight does not equal a good car. When you grow up you will realize this hopefully when you buy your first car you will understand how important torque is over HP.

>>127171643
ok Gramps

>>127173212
>>127173212
Prove it, CarLARPer

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>>127165816
Trump is so retarded it's not even funny anymore

He's the perfect embodiment of the average american, ignorant, stupid and think he's better than anyone else, while he's being seen as the autistic fat bully in the schoolyard.

>>127171699
Cx

>>127173238
We still make more cars than Finland.

>>127173307
Nigger are you retarded. The demon makes 770 pound feet of torque. Doesn't matter, I drive a Subaru because I live in Colorado and traction is more important to me than anything.

>>127173308
Ok cunt don't even get me started on """""British Engineering""""". You cunts are even worse than the Germans.

>1961 Austin bus, doing a conversion
>The Radiator cover is on the INSIDE
>It's right near the windscreen
>The windscreen is sloped back, towards the seats
>Trying to get the old bitch up a hill on a 40 degree day
>Radiator is visibly boiling over
>Bubbles all coming out from under the cap
>Extremely worried that the cap will blow and spray me with superheated steam

Ended up yanking out the entire engine and replacing it with the engine salvaged out of a 1969 Chevy Camaro. Ran it on Aviation Fuel, it was an 8 ton brick that could get up to 180km/h.

>>127173213
>tfw you get older and start liking wagons.

>>127172131
>>127171459
But american pickup trucks are the best.

>>127173840
If I had a smaller car I would have been fucked trying to move furniture around apartments. And I can easily fold the back seats which opens up the space to the trunk, if its empty you have a mercedes tent.

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>>127174058
This.

>>127173540
Subaru driver, makes sense. Subs and EVO drivers are usually the worst people to be around.

>>127170643
>lol try to fix a new German Cuckmobile by yourself

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Kia is a vastly superior machine

>>127165816
You can own an old BMW because those are awesome.
>>127169850
I have an 20y old volkswagen and it's fucking cheap and reliable to drive.

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>>127165816
>Add oil light came on
>Go to check oil level
>no oil dipstick
>ok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGE6roEThig

>>127174339
>yes
get gud faggot. you telling me you can't bench press a transmission into place yourself? dyel?

>>127174330
Lol what do you suggest I drive through snowy mountains? I'm not some faggot in an STI, mind you.

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>buying any cars beside of luxury Italian and British ones
Poorfags
Also, Audi is quite decent
No one can stump the Brits if we talk about cars

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>>127165816
I-I own a VW. Am I just as bad /pol/?

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>>127174632

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>>127173213
Sexy

>>127174632
bro you have an onboard computer in your dash. it's a stupid idea I agree but it's literally right in front of you.

>>127175816
>Onboard computer breaks
>Or the sensor in the oil reservoir breaks
>Rip engine
Not to mention those computers tend to completely reset every time the battery is disconnected, so people tend to not bother configuring them after the first time.

There's literally no actual benefit to the user from that kind of shit. It's great for the company, it's just more shit to break so you have to either pay them to fix it (because these cars are designed to be unfixable, you can't even get User manuals for most modern cars), or buy a new car. But as a consumer? Bend over and take it up the ass.

Fuck those cars, I got a Cadillac instead

Lexus is a good choice too

But fuck the German cars

>>127174652
>Buy BMW
>open the hood
>lose warranty instantly

>>127175009
If you buy a car which can't haul or tow at least 1 ton, you are officially a cuckold.

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how will turks get used BMW in 20 years if they go out of business?

>>127165816

it is interesting to me to see americans taking about bmws.

it is clearly political, because of the economic ramifications of the car trade with germany.

but fuck yeah- car thread.

>>127166645
>styling is just weird
pleb who cant into shooting brake

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>>127175009
this desu

>>127165816
meh
I drive a 2012 X5 Diesel.

It's pretty great.

>>127165816

----- no memes area -----

why the FUCK would I not get a BMW over some americuck "car" made out of tinfoil and plastic?

parts are cheap in europe and we're right next to germany as well

when I was an underage faggot, I thought american cars were "cool" so there's that

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>>127176687
Prius' offer low prices, long lasting reliability, and epic for the win gas mileages. This what appeals to MOST people in America ™

>>127176325
again
>buying a new bmw
also if you have a warranty why would you mess with it? from what I hear you can practically just call them and they'll pick it up and drop off a loaner.
>>127176573
Z4MC is superior in every way.

>>127176914
you have to go back to leftypol

>>127176927

> he bought a bmw someone already fucked in

eyyyyyyyyyyyyy

>>127176927
Ok, just another Amerifat being unable to prescind. No wonder you get butthurt so easily.

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>>127173213

This was my first car when I turned 18, I loved it.

They are actually increasing in price right now

>>127177107
>this is your insult
cause cars don't get cleaned ever. lol.
>>127177408
I'm sitting here smiling. you, evidently, have a warranty problem you need to sort with the dealership. first you seemed to be saying that it's impossible to work on bmws, then you're saying that the warranty makes it impossible to work on them... but if you have a warranty then why are you trying to work on it? that's literally what it's there for, so you don't have to do anything.

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BMWs are garbage. Stop buying their crap, they sold their soul years ago.

t. BMW technician

>>127177831

shit piss-stained 20 sqm cuckshed apartments are also getting more expensive, could it be that someone is after the demographic that never has more than 500 euro of government assistance in their bank account and likes to fug their inbred cousins?

:thinking:

>>127178882
agreed, only anything built pre 2006 lives up to their company slogan.

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>>127178882
BMW owners are complete retards.

>>127175816
So, I take it this computer tells you the condition of the oil and the exact level? Does it also tell you if there is something else wrong like water in the oil?
BMW, go home. You're drunk

>>127169850
Literally this. Get a ford since they are cheap as hell and are better.

>>127178945

No that is because of the housing bubble.

The car I posted is a youngtimer already. If you buy a couple of nice ones of these with an exclusive interieur you will like quadruple the price within the next 20 years.

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>>127179194
This idiot owner got pulled over so the cop could save their dumb ass with a fire extinguisher.

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>>127179598

Only arabs and shity balkans use BMW

>>127179524
How the hell did that happen?

>>127179619
How the fuck do you even manage this shit? More importantly, why the fuck didn't the cop let this guy remove himself from the gene pool.

I wonder why people lease German cars instead of buying them? Or they trade them in once the warranty expires.

>>127165816
>BMW you're worse than a Hillary supporter.
90% of BMW drivers I see are fucking some sort of shitskin, and they drive like shit (no signal lane changes, passing in the wrong lane etc). I fucking hate it when I have to go into the city

I own an E46 BMW 320i and I like it. I really want to upgrade to a 330i though. Purely because I can't afford to upgrade to an M3.

>>127171462
>truly Germans are the Jewish car makers

The G*rmans are genetic cousins to the Jews. Their antisemitism is a rivalry. They see Jews are direct competitors in their subjugation of Europe.

To be frank, I would not shed a tear if G*rmans were vaporized or sent back to the Asiatic steps they stem from. It would free up land for the native Europeans.

>>127179627
Kept driving the vehicle, completely oblivious to the fact the brake pads where worn out. Like I said, they got pulled over because their shit was on fire. Cop saved a stupid person's life...

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>>127165816
wouldn't trade my 330 for anything in the world.

stay mad cuckleboi

>>127179908
Are you part maori by any chance?

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>>127180034

>

t. buttmad Peugeot driver

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>>127165816

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>>127167272
This, they were once some of the finest automobiles you could buy.

>>127180134
BMWs are for those street kids who like to play at race driving. I couldn't tell you how many BMW losers I've beaten in my old mk2 golf. Nothing but hotshot douche bags drive BMWs. face reality.

>>127166645
My 370z GT > your z3
FITE ME.

Murricans be like
>MUH CO2 EMISSIONS!
and meanwhile be like
>BOMB EVERYTHING IN THE MIDDLE EAST!
Are your bombs carbon neutral or something?

I'm just joking, Keep polluting, Keep bombing. Fuck the muzzies.

>>127176162
>Cadillac
caddy all day. Just got mine 2 months ago.

>>127180282

HOT

I like the even earlier series coloured in white.
Post em

>>127180204
It's gonna be okay, Tamerlan. Eat well and rest: you have to go back to work and pay for those 1.6 million migrants after your break.

>>127180282
looks ugly

>>127180567

Why are you so mad, Pierre?
Your country is far worse off than Germany and you didnt even lose 2 world wars. You did this to yourself.

Stop sperging out and get your shit together.

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>>127180484
>>127180570
BMW was classy as all get out.

WAS.

These days the ones that don't cost as much as a house are shit.

good. we all know they tried to exterminate the jews because ger(money) wanted all the finances for themselves. You ever interact with a german??? they are literally the cheapest fucks in the world. krautfaggots

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>>127180765

Would take this one though

>>127180235
Just noticed he pushes his jaw outward to make his chin appear larger. At rest he is a chinlet with a orange rind appearance. Sign of low test.

>>127180282
perfect, except for the ridiculous wheels

>>127180235
That pic shows him being consistent.
American tax payers are being railed and taken advantage of so he does what he can to not pay in.
Second pic shows how we are being taken advantage of not just by the US gov but also even other whole nations.

>>127180235

what a stupid image. but i expect that out of some julian assange cock sucking communist faggot

>>127180765
looks like shit. very tacky. no class

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>>127180906
Ugh, too new. That was well after they peaked.

>>127181237

Don't be too harsh on yourself

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>>127181039
I agree, I just grabbed the first image I came across on jewgle.

>>127181265

Those cars are different games you can't compare them.

The Z8 is perfect to me in its own ways.
How much is the one you just posted today?

I bought a second-hand Beamer and the cost of replacement parts was fucking insane I ended up spending more on repairs than on the car itself it broke down so often, scrapped it and bought a Corolla, repairs are way cheaper and it's a hell of a lot more reliable

>>127181443
Might as well have a Miata then, at least it hardly costs any money to maintain and it probably drives better too.

>>127174544
what movie is this from?

>>127181515

>being able to afford Z8
>maintenance cost matters

you might pick only one my friend

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>>127181628
Then we're back to being able to afford something from the days when BMW was a real car company.

>>127180282
this car, this car is one of the ones that started my love for BMWs
>>127180285
my car would kick your car's ass on a course though. also if you're talking stock vs boosted no shit. an mk2 isn't going to beat much of anything though unless it's modded.
>>127180334
mate you've got quite a lot more hp. though with my lightweight clutch kit I'll get off the line faster, with my suspension mods I'll probably take corners a little better and accelerate out of them a little faster but you've got a car more equivalent to an M than mine.

>>127180765
oh lawdy dat M1

>>127180906
much expensive. such rare. this is like, when I hit it big I'm going to need one of these, a ferrari italia 458, a ford raptor, and then an suv for hauling the family around.

then again... for the same money I could build a type 65 with a serious supercharged LS drivetrain. and then also buy a bunch of land. so maybe not.

>>127181713

Its astonishing that most Mercedes, BMW and Porsche designs never look shit no matter how old they are.

Can't say that about asian cars and somethling Ford.

>>127181713
This really.

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>>127181756
>and then also buy a bunch of land. so maybe not
Just make due with a 2002 anon, they're still relatively affordable and they can be fixed. It's classy and fun and if you spiff it up nice you will appreciate it *almost* as much as one of the much more expensive models.

My lada niva has never let me down, it came with a 1.9 diesel from peugeot.

>>127181828
That car is literally a bathtub with a roof on it.

>>127181756

yep.. unfortunately it will stay a dream for me :<

JUST

>>127181932

How is your vacation the the pagan roots of Rome going, Varg?

>>127181933

literally kys

>>127181828
The only cars that never look dated are jap and italian makes, mostly since they don't give a shit about compensating or looking intimidating, it's all style.

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>>127181828
>most Mercedes, BMW and Porsche designs never look shit no matter how old they are
Used to be true until possibly at the latest, the mid-1990s as they felt they had to "compete" with the Japs.

>not buying American
>not buying Australian
Oh wait all "our" car compains fired all the workers and make their shit overseas never mind

>>127182144
I do buy American, Toyota in fact.

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>trump reckons murka doesnt want high build quality motors

>he thinks they want shit boxes that cant into corners

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lol who cares what that orange tupee nigger says

amerikans will still import goyman cars simply because of the fact theyre still more reliable and better quality than US shitmobiles made in mexico

>>127171290
Yes, goy.

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>>127182080
You literally can't even tell the difference.

>>127181594

Not a movie, show called Eastbound and Down

>>127182239
Not sure if subtle trolling or pure retardation.

>>127182464
>not knowing Toyota builds many vehicles right here in the USA with a majority of USA made parts
Toyota is objectively the most American car company at this point.

>>127165816
But BMW factories are almost all in Slovakia.

>>127181933
you don't understand it anon. that car is quintessential BMW.
>>127181930
I would be so torn between keeping it stock, or doing terrible things to it.

plus, I can't bring myself to get rid of the car I have now.

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>>127182444
upvoted

>>127182560
I already know that.
But then, guess what we Germans do. We build the cars in the US as well. In your logic, VW, BMW and Mercedes-Benz must be american too..

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>>127182657
Oh you'd have to keep it stock. Best to just save yourself the trouble and get the tuned version straight away, it'd be worth more money in ten years or whatever too.

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Look at this shit and tell me why.

>>127182902
looks pretty efficient bro

you simply cant handle high tech engineering

>>127181756
>mate you've got quite a lot more hp. though with my lightweight clutch kit I'll get off the line faster, with my suspension mods I'll probably take corners a little better and accelerate out of them a little faster but you've got a car more equivalent to an M than mine.
There is no way on earth you will out accelerate me, or out turn me. Especially with my Potenza RE-71Rs.

I have you by a full second 0-60, and it only gets worse from there.

Nippon makes the finest cars on the planet.

I like z3s, but you are clearly in frs/Miataland.

if I had a bmw I'd just feel like a supreme gentleman

>>127183347
protip
>I don't have a z3.
in my more stupid days I've taken 350zs and c5 corvettes pretty easily. that was before I did any modification.
>>127182902
because audi. not BMW. I won't ever own an audi unless it's an R8 and only if I have a looot of money. but if I've got that I'd have a 458 italia spyder in black.

>>127165816
Real men drive American trucks and have a corvette to play with.
Real men have tools and skills and a lack of a vagina and can take the whole vehicle apart and put it back together if needed. We do our own maintenance and repairs. If you can't do that call your dad and tell him he failed with you.

My wife wanted a bmw a year ago, she always had an Audi. So we bought one. She regrets it. Newer mid to low end ones are really shitty vehicles. So now I have an audi and a bmw in my fucking driveway and I wish they they were all bow ties honestly. My truck and vette get the garage, fuck those foriegn jobbies.

>>127183775
>350z
Slow.
>corvette
Trying to goad grandpa into a stoplight race doesnt count.

I'm to 60 in 5 seconds. A new clutch and fartcan isnt giving you any gains.

If you are in SC I will take your pinkslip. On track on on strip.

He can't drink a manual car.
kek
KEK
K E K

>>127184001
>tfw need a truck
but I'll pass on the corvette.

>>127165816
here in Austria and Germany, BMWs are mostly driven by roaches. Every sandnigger's goal in life is to get a fucking silver BMW.

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N-notice me c-cuntpai ;_;

>>127184156
lol calm down there buddy.
>pinkslips
lol.

didn't realize 370zs were that slow off the line my car did 5.3 before it got a racing clutch that knocked about 15-20 pounds of rotational mass off by getting rid of the dual mass flywheel. dunno what it is now and I don't drive like anywhere near as much of a jackass these days.
>>127184222
mate if you can drink any vehicle more power to you.

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>>127165816

(you)

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>>127184702
>ford
>found on rubbish dump
Here's a real car

>>127165816
Get back to >>>/o/ you shill.

>>127166645
BMW depreciate like fuck. In 10 years you'll have 100 dollars of scrap metal

>>127184950
nah, in ten years I'll have a project car for me any my future kids to work on so I can pass on the skills I've learned. that or I'll have done an engine swap, supercharged it, done a bunch of other stuff and have a beast of a car. time will tell.

He uses superchargers instead of using a nitrous kit.
KEK

>>127184814
yeah but I mean, what if /o/ wants to gas the bikes? I know they're not even a sliver of their former selves and these guys probably don't even know who treequinox is but, we're gonna need blitzkrieg armored divisions if we're gonna win the war on bikes anon.

>>127171472
Dodge is the only company currently producing a muscle car.

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>he doesn't want people to see man driving a german whip

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If you buy middle class - you get middle class. If you want high end - you get high end. You get what you pay. A Corvette important in Germany is ridicoulous bad build. It is just not comparable to a 911 Porsche or AMG Mercedes. The U.S. still builds good trucks, but the engines are very outdated, ancient technology from 2000. You can't drive faster as 150mpH? This is ridicolous. You don't need a fast car.

>>127188217

Fun story - a few years back, Bayer Pharma did a study to determine what car to give to their employees that qualified for a company car.

Mercedes won, but they went with the runner up to not look pretentious to clients.

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>>127188832
Many international politicians use a Mercedes for meetings. It's the only car manufacturer with a full armored series of luxury cars. The russians love the Mercedes G5 because of the full protection. Who cares if it looks pretentious? More pretentious as a Corvette is impossible.

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I always dreamed if i had a lot of money for a project/restoration car i would most def buy a e39 and work on it throu years. its the only beamer that i would own eventho ive driven lots of them but i wouldnt own none of them except e39.

>>127190067
I had a e39 for a couple cars the car did me great, it never broke down on me and parts weren't as expensive as people who don't have bmws claim they are.
I switched over to a 330i cabrio 2002, literally a perfect car for me.
I wouldn't go back to the e39, unless it was an m5

>>127190401
For a couple years*

>>127175021
VW is literally /ourcar/

>>127172948
If a car needs aftermarket to fix it's inherent flaws then it's a shit car you complete fucking pleb.

>>127190454
only if it has fartfignewton

>>127189212
Clients could think they're getting fleeced if all the salesmen show up in luxury cars.

I think - fuck the "VW-Scandal". This was the try of a cruzification of the German car industry. Yes it's true: We give a shit on your wood and we bring full metal carpr0n on the streets. We tune every chip and part as much as we can. Why? because we can - and we drive as fast as we want. So we can drive this things out. We are the worlds crash test dummies - we give our lifes for the possibility to drive fast. If you can ride a vehicle with 320Kmh on a German Autobahn - you can drive it everywhere else. Yes, some Motorcycles are as fast, here (Hayabusa). You talk about cars - but we talk about different conditions.

>>127190401
yea the old m5. they dont make them like they used to. the first bmw that ive driven was e34 at the time first 4wd beamer i think. 525iX. friend still has it and eventho its old its still a beast of a car tho he tunned it up a bit so it has 190kw. old beamers are great cars.

>>127167272
I agree, also I wouldn't buy a German car because they're socialist cucks who design their cars to break to support their own network of mechanics.

The Japs and now the Gooks make cars that you don't have to take shop NEAR as much.

>>127179619
more car gore please

>>127181500
cuck

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Which country makes the best cars?

Chose your weapon anons

buy British Motorised Rollinghams

>>127172050
What? I live 5 minutes from the US factory where X vehicles are made and they are producing more cars than ever there. Between the factory and supporting businesses in the area, it supports something like 40k jobs today.

>>127169850
Poorfag spotted

>>127181500
I could recommend a Daihatsu. They are cheap and you can repair 'em with ducttape.

>>127191562
With the exception of Mazda and a few Lexus and Subie models, Japs make the vehicular equivalent of kitchen appliances with no soul. They are for people who don't enjoy driving. I will gladly pay higher prices for parts as the tradeoff.

Also, interiors of about every car that isn't German are total shit.

>>127192143
How is Rolls Royce now doing? Is it doing fine?

>>127190401
E46.... mmm smells like crayons.

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>>127165816

>tfw you own a ferrari because some suckers from EU paid for it

FeelsGoodMan

>>127165816
bmw is for cucks and tards who want to look like they cant drive.

>>127170221
Fucking this. The problem with G*rman cars isn't even that they're expensive up-front. It's the maintenance costs. Holy shit, you have to pay an arm and a leg and get an entire fucking system replaced if one little things malfunctions. Compare that to american or jap cars, where you can repair/replace the defect easily and cheaply.

Their cars run well, but when things start breaking - and this always happens eventually - then good fucking luck with that, sinking thousand and thousands of extra cuckbux into the damn thing.

>>127171290
and Dodge is owned by the Italians.

>>127193414
So buy a CPO car that is warrantied to 100k miles or buy something old that is fully depreciated and has less electronics to begin with. A 20 yr old German car in good condition will still turn heads. Most Japanese or American cars can't come close.

>>127176505
so true, can't even laugh.
if you see an old bmw here, it's driven by a turk.

>turk friend buys car
>picks me up
>tell him his rear suspension is broken
>he puts on a wide grin and opens trunk
>it's filled up with bricks
>why.jpg
>cousin told him that's how you lower a car

>>127193414
Is there a reason to type G*rman not German? This is /pol/ you can call me "nigger german hans" - we are here to talk free without stupid stars.

Rolls Royce is a good example. We left the factories in Britain where it belongs to. Great Britain. It's British. Period. First we doubled the sales. Finally in 2011 the Brits had the best sales since 1978 and some new jobs. Rolls Royce is still a piece of great British craftmanship with some technical, German knowledge. It is a perfect example ho to keep markets, respect the uniqueness and skills of the more than 1300 workers. But muh - blame German car industry ... give jobs to Japan and China!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Motor_Cars

>>127193849
You can have quality builds without being full retard about the parts.

>>127191933
Europe

>driving cars
>driving at all

>>127173651
based Australia
>>127194519
>being a cucked leaf
Let me annex you ok? Trade is good you know

>>127194585
I didn't know you can choose that flag

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>expensive to maintain|
>expensive to register
>only takes premium gas

I guess I shouldn't talk shit considering the state my truck's in, but jesus.

>>127165816
That's fine.
I owned a BMW during college. It was a horrible fucking car.
In the shop literally once a month. Bought a Korean sports car afterwards and didn't look back.
Side note. Hyundai cars are stupid reliable now.

>>127195338
>hyundai

At least you're not driving a civic

>>127195338
KOREAN SPORTS CAR. Rare words.

Took me a minute to figure that out. Genesis Coupe.

>>127195459
>>127195545
My Genesis Coupe was an awesome car.
305hp. Paddle Shifters that weren't shitty. Leather. Decent sound system. Protected me when I hit guard rails on the interstate.
Negatives: poorly balanced. Totaled it because it randomly poured down rain on a newly paved interstate section.

>>127195338
>>127195545
How much do you get if you sell it, used?
500$? 1500$? Buy it new and you loose thousands only for turning the key around.

>>127195943
Bought it used. 16,000 for one with 24,000 miles. I bought a 2010 model in 2014.
They're actually going up in price. The dealership I bought it from offered me same price I bought it for in a trade because demand was so high. They didn't know I wrecked it.

>>127196164
then you did everything right, bro

lot's of poor fags on here bitching and moaning about cars they'll never be able to afford, a lexus does not compare to a high end BMW by any means.

>>127171462
Are you dure you're noto driving it like shit?

You're supposed to change the brake pads before they have to ne replaced.

>>127195338
you owned a brand new BMW that was in the shop every month? i doubt that.

>>127196521
yeah that guy doesn't know wtf he is talking about you don't replace the disks, and the fucking car warns you when the brake pads get low. there are a lot of liars on here, but that's not surprising on here.

>>127165816
>own a bmw and a audi

Great cars, fuck americans

>>127196562
>you owned a brand new BMW that was in the shop every month? i doubt that.
I'm going to scold you for being an idiot. I never said it was brand new. I bought it with 50k on it. Any other car would have been fine, BMW apparently can't handle 50k.

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this is the only good looking car ever built

>>127196804
american here, you're talking to poor american's on here. i currently own a bmw, before that i owned a porsche, the amount of lies on here is astounding. first off BMW repairs everything on your car for FREE except the tires for 3 years. it's a car meant for people who want to drive fast and enjoy driving, its not meant for anything else otehr than that, in fact getting a bmw for luxury is retarded because the suspension is so stiff.

>>127196874
yeah i bet it only had 50k on it, you're lying your ass off, you bought a BMW with 50k mile on it in college, or your parents gave you their old car

>>127165816
What if i own a 2nd hand 20 year old 3 series?

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>2017
>driving eurotrash
>not driving jdm
really makes you think

>>127191933
Japan

>>127197082
>yeah i bet it only had 50k on it, you're lying your ass off, you bought a BMW with 50k mile on it in college, or your parents gave you their old car
This is incoherent.
>yeah i bet it only had 50k on it, you're lying your ass off
This suggest it did not have 50k on it. It did.
>you bought a BMW with 50k mile on it in college, or your parents gave you their old car
None of my parents have ever owned a BMW. My dad drives a corvette, my mom drives a toyota.
Just because you're too poor and mentally incompetent to work and go to school doesn't mean the rest of us are.

>>127186029
kek

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*blocks your path*

>>127198278
god I want to put a tariff on that

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still talking about pleb cars,anon?
eurotrash, when will they lean?

>>127179619
>wristlett
Top kek

I'd drive asian but why the fuck are their cars so ugly? They look like they are trying so hard to be futuristic and end up with ugly sharp lines and 0 character.

Why buy bmw when superior Audi exists.

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>>127199271
>ugly

>>127200710
>almost 200k euro for this
>Can literally get a ferarri for that price
Also, I was talking about medium range cars

>>127180034
Switch "G*rmans" by "B*its" and you're spot-on.

ahhhh all the but hurt, fantastic. You retards didnt force germany by blackmailing VW and you wont get us with BMW. If best case scenario happens all Americans get unemployed and you can sit on 10k more Americans and explain them why jobs are bad.

Any ways we are waiting for you producing anything close then you american shit buckets to compete or at least try to.

I bet you contemplate to be communist now, Free market worked well before you fuckt it up and now suck mein wiener suckers.

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Reminder if you buy a Jaguar or a Land Rover, your car has fecal matter in it before you get it.
Don't buy indian cars.

>>127165816
Exactly why I traded my 335 for a mustang 5.0

>>127170834
They were about 10 years ago during the GM bankruptcy era but they finally are back to competing with Toyota in terms of reliability and Cadillac finally has a car that competes with BMW ///M.

However, I still only drive BMW.

Just buy a Lexus or Toyota if you can't afford a luxury car and you'll never look back.

Have a look in a GM factory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWnT0RKvUSI

Compared to a BMW factory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RT1RBZR9hs

You still use very old tech like in 2000. And you complain about better build cars? But I still have a big respect for the U.S. car industry. But the tech is outdated.

>>127165816
top kek no more good cars for u

Here is Chevrolet:
https://www.wired.com/2010/11/peek-inside-the-chevrolet-volt-factory/

Even worse ...

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>>127179908
I have an E46 M3, I love it. It's the best car I've owned.

>>127205273
>>127205561
+1. My 2002 BMW has tech like 8 airbags, auto-leveling xenon, full factory LED tail lights, etc. American shit in 2017 still doesn't have a lot that I do.

And before anybody tells me it's unreliable, I keep up with maintenance so things don't break unlike most amerifats with their gm crap.

>>127170643
It's not just labor, but parts too.
And let's say you have to disassemble half the motorbay to replace a plastic part that BMW hid behind the engine... I envy you if you have so much time.

>>127174631
>I have an 20y old volkswagen
OLD cars are reliable, old BMW/VW/AUDI whatever. But if it was made in the past 12-10 years, it's a money sink.

>>127192443
No one says you cannot spend money on whatever you want... but still... if you are a wagecuck, a BMW/VW/AUDI will eat up all the money you could save.

But some people still go for them. I mean having a BMW could be comfy. Never having to use the blinker anymore is something of a plus I must admit.

>>127172948
> spot the BMW poster with a page long excuse why it's okay for a car to be fucking garbage.

>>127165956
Yeah, the standards are fucking ridiculous. I expect Trump to cut them back hard.

>>127178882
>t. BMW technician
Hey, they feed you. Would not complain about them if I were a BMW technician.
All the work just flowing in since they all break. Bretty comfy.

>>127180906
homesexual faggot car

>>127181414
Too bad the M series costs a fucking fortune to keep/run/use.
Would prefer an S2000 for example or some other fun ride that you can actually ride hard and it doesn't break. (down and your wallet/balls.)

>>127165816
We have an x4 leased as a company vehicle. I think it's pretty unimpressive for the $. The guy who drives it loves it, but I can't figure out why. I chose an Infinity over the BMW when I picked out my last one.

>>127165816
Friendly reminder that you can help this Identitarian movement to defend European borders with a donation:
http://defend-europe.org/it/support-us_it/

Even € 2 or € 5 could help!

>>127182902
> over engineering

- You must make your car very environment-friendly.
- It must be very fuel efficient.
- It still has to move, have enough power.

That's the challenge the manufacturers face.
It's not even their agenda, it's the climate fuckers.
Even the US is getting cucked.
Now it's the V6... few years and the suckers will be on an I4 before they know it.

On the other hand brands like Audi spend millions of dollaridoos to engineer cars that will die "as planned". Technicians showed us that the new engines are so paper thin they almost fall apart. (Yes they design them so they don't, but it is not made to endure long use.)

They also move parts to locations where they break after a given time.
It's basically planned obsolescence, a very bad case of it anyway.

>>127165956
Rudolf Diesel never said it would be clean energy. Why blame him now? Because of treehuggers? If (((they))) want to regulate emissions - why don't start with kerosine but with daddys car? The dirtiest and most used fuel? VW was a crucification and a attack on the German car industry.

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>>127165816
Trump wants to Make America Great again
Tries to surpress the Free Market, the ONE Thing that made America great in the first place

Just......

>>127191933
Depends on what you call "Best".
Reliability, price/value: Japan
Performance: Japan/Germany
Electric: US
Safety: All, but Volvo (Sweden) is always one step ahead

>>127169742
>fucking leaf
Go kill yourself

>>127207462
They're really sort of bare bones cars, which is odd considering their somewhat prestigious image.
Everything you'd expect a BMW to have is an expensive extra cost option, and if you don't order those options, you get cheap shit that makes a base model Silverado's interior look high end.

>>127205403
>BMW
>good cars
Pick one, Muhammad. German auto reliability is the second greatest lie to come out of the fatherland.

>>127165816
I bet this is fake news.

>>127194782
no one puts premium in them in my country tho.
(ok if it's a new model, don't do this. but older ones, they are filled with 91 RON fuel (95 octane).

that said the repair/maintenance will fuck you up, so fuel should be your least concern.

>>127165816
where I live the used BMW is every poor black hustler and wannabe drug dealer's car
the well-off middle class people drive Land Rovers, Volvos or high end Toyotas strangely enough

>>127202502
> buy Nissan
> no other price
> well equipped, safe, street-usable, performance daily driver vehicle
> it doesn't break

> buy Ferrari
> spend 200k EUR on base model
> spend 100k more for basic options
> it still feels fucking basic and it's actually uncomfortable for daily drive
> drive it home
> your vehicle now lost 100k EUR of it's value (not kidding, look supercar price drops)
> take it to work next day
> something breaks
> 50k repair costs

Yupp, totally equal.
Even rich people don't drive Ferraris as daily drivers.

>>127208598
I love how the internet elected a president "for the lulz", but man, you still think Trump isn't this straightforward/dumb/whatever?

>>127208438
No, Sancho. The Detroit factories are now a wasteland. You can't build good cars, anymore. This is sad. Henry Ford would spit on you. Stop crying and start to work. Make engineers out of your chimps. Rebuild Detroit.

>>127209027
I didn't elect him for the lulz, I elected him because he was better than the establishment.

>>127182902
>Over engineering

t. a brainlet

>>127209295
Well yeah anyone would have been better than Hillary, that is not what I am saying.
I am simply stating that he is a very simple man.
Actually, have to lower the TV's volume when an interview comes up because he is like a kid trying to avoid questions why his homework isn't done yet. And when he tries to be a boss (which works sometimes, see Putin), he usually just fails hard because he lacks the knowledge. He could make a fine president, he would just need something like 10 years of studying to get up to speed.

>>127200710
That poor bastard badly needs a redesign.
That said, I'm super happy with my 370z.

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>>127179469
good lad

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Shill. BMW = Nazi ride

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BMW

>>127174631
No, fuck off.
Volvo, Ford and Peugeot are the only brands worth driving.

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>>127190719
Yeah it was overblown, but still it's dishonest and stupid to do shit like this. Our cars are everyboys wet dream and technically with swedish and japanes cars top of the class. Trumps autistic reeeeing isn't completly wrong, but he doesn't get, that less American Cars being sold is mainly due to diversity quotas and Integration in Colleges and schools destroying their quality.

>>127209758
>Volvo
True
>Peugot and Ford
Let me guess you had a car accident with one of those favourit cars resulting in heavy brain injuries.

>>127210153
Yes - but not if it is a market standard everybody competes with. GM, Chevrolet, VW, Mercedes - everybody. But they crucify VW? Found it here aswell:

Alfa Romeo Giulietta 2.0 l Euro 5
Audi A6 V6 3.0 l Euro 5
Chevrolet Cruze 2.0 l Euro 5
Dacia Sandero 1.5 l Euro 6
Fiat Ducato 3.0 l Euro 5
Ford C-Max 1.5 l Euro 6
Ford C-Max 2.0 l Euro 6
Hyundai ix35 2.0 l Euro 5
Hyundai i20 1.1 l Euro 6
Jaguar XE 2.0 l Euro 6
Jeep Cherokee 2.0 l Euro 5
Land Rover Range Rover 3.0 l Euro 5
Mercedes V 250 Bluetec 2.1 l Euro 6
Nissan Navara 2.5 l Euro 5
Opel Insignia 2.0 l
Opel Zafira 1.6 l Euro 6
Porsche Macan 3.0 l V6 Euro 6
Renault Kadjar 1.6 l Euro 6
Renault Kadjar 1.5 l Euro 6
Suzuki Vitara 1.6 l Euro 6
VW Amarok 2.0 l N1 Euro 5
VW Crafter 2.0 l N1 Euro 5

A lot of companies had a callback for these cars.

>>127174544
I SELL FUCKIN KIAS. THINK ABOUT THAT