Balkan Nations

>>126888771
The Ottomans happened.

>>126888902
That and communism.

Westeners are afraid of Balkan People, but love their "refugees"

>>126888771
>this guy
i dont even have to click that shit and i know who it is. ffs. just stop it woth him pl0x.

Romania is not in the Balkans

>>126888771
Continuity is the problem.

My grandfather was born in one state, my father in another, me in the third, and my brother in the fourth. We were all born in the same place geographically.

>>126888771

We used to be under the dominance of Hungarians, Austrians, Turks, Germans,... which leads to a trauma that we try to resolve with unreasonnable nationalism.

That's my opinion (Croat here btw)

>>126888902
>>126888971
Maybe you both have point here, but that's like forever ago. What's stopping us to not be that much coruptive and "play smart" people? I feel we are like poison to the better countries. Whenever we go, we are trying to somehow trick the system. Disgusting

>>126889376
Why is it that everyone in the Balkans hate each other?

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>>126889186
the asshole of the world

So are you going with Ottoman Empire or Yugoslavia?

>>126888771

Greece shouldn't be included. It's much more of a Mediterranean country by culture and language than a Balkan one.

Ditto for Turkey, which is much more of a Middle Eastern country by culture.

>>126889546
I think this video explains it all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZAK_kzNc94

>>126889626
I would prefer keep living in Belgicuckstan for the rest of my life rather than being considered as a Turk.

>>126888771
We have a severe case of the WE WUZZ. All Balkan countries have incorporated each other at some point or another or have always held uneasy truces and have backstabbed each other for clay gains precisely because of said we wuzzness. I wish that weren't the case and we could at least form some sort of council with trade agreements and cultural exchanges as we are very similar in tradition and history and when we don't get into clay disputes we usually enjoy ourselves over some rakija

>>126889546
That's not really true though. I can go to any place in the Balkans as a Serb and not be harassed. Same goes for Croats and Bulgarians. The only people likely to be harassed are gypsies (because they steal and form insular communities) and Albanians (because they aren't native to the Balkans).

All the hate that pops up on /pol/ is from edgy kids with proxies or diaspora fags who never saw war.

>>126888771
Slovenia is not Balkan.
Delete the image OP.

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>>126889977
Technically you are even worse than Turks.

>>126890080
That is another topic. But thank you. Thank you a lot. Your last sentence is the core of /pol/

>>126888771
Croatia deserves back its land from that slum called Serbia. Dont know if id add Slovenia to this though

>>126888771
>And what's the problem with them/us?
Nothing, we are the only nations on Earth still in possession of the Karamazov spirit, the impulse of freedom, the essential divine spark that almost the entire world has lost through Protestantism, Stalinism/Maoism/Chinese Legalism, Humanism, Denazification, Buddhism, and other ideologies that go against humanity itself.

Sure, it's mostly gone from us too, but at least we'll be the ones to turn off the light.

>>126890080
>and Albanians (because they aren't native to the Balkans).
t. slavovich from siberia

>roaches
>balkan states
Fuck off

>>126890080
>>126890612
Case in point.

>>126890080
true that coming from HB friend

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no need to be mad white boiis you'll never get an albanian girl

>>126890080
> Albanians (because they aren't native to the Balkans).
Serbian intellectuals everyone

You guys literally came from Central Asia where as all the evidence points to us being indigenous. I don't have anything against Serbs but I don't like it when people distort the facts.

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white boii imma balkan BOSS

>>126890719
We say openly that we moved here. They say that they are illyrians, yet their language has no helenisms, but a lot of appropriated Serbian words. That is the issue.

Same could be said for some nutjob we wuz macedonians, but those are way in the minority compared to Albanians who think they are native.

Because it's Russian territory

>>126888771
All Macedonians do is sit in coffee shops all day.

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>>126890943
This.

The only natives to the balkan are albanians and romanians. Slavs came way later from Siberia.

>>126890943
See>>126890969

>>126890969
> but a lot of appropriated Serbian words
A lot of Albanians lived under Serbian occupation and inter-mingled with Serbs and went to schools in Serbian.

>>126890996
> All [Balkan nationality] do is sit in coffee shops all day.
ftfy

>>126890969
>helenisms
what does illyrian have to do with Hellenic people? You realize albanian and greek language are completely different.

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>>126888771
>implying Turkey as a Balkan State

Just because Constantinople (Tsargrad) is near the Balkans it doesn't mean that the whole country should be considered as a part of it. The roaches should be never defined as a Balkan country thus they belong to their Asian shitskin neighbours.

>>126890273
The difference is, my dear Swede, that our slavic diaspora merge with the natives people where she goes, ethnic studies proved it in the UK, Maghrebis are 30x more likely to commit crimes than us.

>>126891093
True ay

>>126888771
from the video thumbnail i thought that guy was in silent hill

>>126890080
With all my respect, you're talking shit dude. We genetically are as much natives as Albanian, but culturally speaking, we're not.

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>>126891113
No, Yugoslavians commit crime while Turks run restaurants. It's funny you're even lower than Turks.

>>126891101
The illyrians lived next to Greeks. It is reasonable to say that they would adopt some words from them. Yet for Albanians this is not the case. Albanian language has a lot of adopted Serbian words though, leading to the conclusion that you came here later.

There is a lot more wrong with Albanians supposedly being Illyrian, above is just one argument.

>>126891299
You're only native with Albanians because you intermixed with the native Illyrian population.

>>126890750
>slovenia and croatia want to leave
>clearly failing state
>Yugoslavian(Serbian) leaders go full retarded and want Serbian dominated Yugoslavia
all the shit holes should have had their land back.
>having opinion
>edgy

>>126891355
>Albanian language has a lot of adopted Serbian words though,
u wot. I understand no serbian at all and I speak fluent albanian. I call bullshit on that one.

>>126891355
> There is a lot more wrong with Albanians supposedly being Illyrian, above is just one argument.
That's a bad argument because a lot of loan words turn out not be Slavic, and because a lot for a lot of Slavic loan words there is an equivalent Albanian word.

>>126888902
fpbp
if it wasn't for the Ottomans the Balkans wouldn't be the travesty they are now

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>>126888771
your lands are positioned between the three eternal great powers of west europe, russia and ottoman

pic related, but all the arrows are going the opposite directions

>>126890996
Yes, that's a circle. People are poor because they are lazy. They are lazy and do not work because the sallaries are very small.
And yea...so fucking rational, drink coffee and bet on football all day

>>126891371
We have the same rate of indegenous haplogroups that Albanians, no matter how we get it, that's just confirms what i said : we're maybe genetically as much natives than Albanians, but not culturally.

That's the difference between slavic and turkish expansion : we don't slaughter the indigenous, we mix up and sometimes our cultures dominates (Balkans), sometimes they're being dominated (East germany)

>>126890273
It's an insult to write Yugoslavia..
I don't want to be associated with muslim Bosnians or warmongering Serbs or Croatian thiefs

>>126888771
Racially "we" are cousins of nords. Ancient non indo-european original inhabitants of europe. That gives us the savage part. The intelectual inferiority comes from R1A slav settlers.

Now many nations do better with worse genes why?

We are fragmented and no tribe ever subjugated the rest so we are left with a multi culti shithole. Other tribes like R1B cleansed their I1/2 counterparts, whereas slavs assimilated them. Becoming outsiders to eachother.

How do we fix it? We cant without either mass genocide or mass serbification.

>>126891633
Yeah that's what my grandparents told me. Lucky they got out in the 50's

>>126890129

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQN93uj5Jhc

ovo nije Balkan ??

>>126892006
the guy throwing the ball at 2:05 is Slovenian
the guy hitting him is Balkanian

it's not rocket science

>>126891875

Too bad we are taking over your country. You are literally going to become little-Yugo in 2-3 decades.

>>126891516
Yes but where are the Greek loan words?
>>126891484
The Serbian language has a lot of Turkish loan words, yet I don't understand Turkish. Don't play stupid.

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I.Q. Genetics
Invasions
Collectivistic religion (Orthodoxy)
Sub-optimal natural selection compared to the West

>>126892106
also, the guy who goes into the car is Slovenian, too

>>126892142
you ain't taking over shit
Slovenia is Little Germany

>>126892106
>>126892192

a ti mene jebeŠ ?

>>126891875

I'll always be fascinated by the slovens and their propensity of being the best at considering other slavs as untermenschen.

>>126892165
https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country/al-albania

>>126889511
>unreasonnable nationalism
more like trying to fuck each other over, circumvent the law and abuse whatever power we have. So when we get a ruling class coming from our own, you can expect it to be abusive and incompetent.
Nationalism is truly another effect but it is the least of the problems.

>>126892142
And who are you?
Believe me west can't take my country. Our people have more fight in them than your degenerate northern Swedistans and Norwegistans..
Soon you won't be even able to hold your country together

>>126888771
>kosovo
No

I have visited Balkan and they are literally the same people, be it Serbian,Albanian or Greek the only difference i noticed was in the mentality and the physique was when i entered in Slovenia.
What fucked them was the roach invasion which devided them somehow...

>>126892286
Ne, te ne jebem.

Balkanians = manlier, more violent
Slovenians = cucks, but more disciplined, hence have more money & success

Kind of like nigger vs white

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It's nationalism. Nationalism turns everything into shit

>Greece vs Turkey rivalry over the Aegean
>Albanian pride
>Slavic pride
>Macedonian pride
>Serbian pride

I fucking hate the balkans and the mindset of it's people. Y'all retarded as hell

>>126888771
We don't associate with you.

Thank you.

>>126892165
Too bad iq is not genetic

>>126888771
DELETTTTT

>>126892512
Basically every Balkan country be like : WE WUZ *insert some stupid pride*

>>126892682
WE WUZ ALEXANDER

>>126890891
>implying that's not how most slavettes look like

>>126890960
correction. Technically Moldavia was never conquered by Turks. We swore fealty to them while constantly backstabbing them, but never fully conquered.

>>126888771
"And what's the problem with them/us?"

Simple, we are so obsessed with the past that we forget there is a future

>>126892682
WE WUZ FARMERS AND SHIT

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>>126892682
WE WUZ JANEZ N'SHIET

>>126888771
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foibe_massacres

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>>126892994

>>126892486

aj mrš !

BRŠ

>>126892682
>WE WUZ ANCIENT INVENTORS AND SHIT

>>126890273
>58k Norwegians
SEND THEM BACK!!!
they deserve better uprising than swedish brainwashing

>>126892512
The only way that there can be peace in the Balkans is through the EU. It also helps with the Turks a little bit. And the Russians, for those concerned with them.

>>126893100
What is the average pension in Slovenia? Here it is about 700 euros (although many people get 300-400e).

>>126889724
As a Greek I disagree, we're 2/5 Balkans, 2/5 Mediterranean and the rest is whatever

>>126888771
>SI
>balkaniggers

>>126893099
Never knew about this event before. What the actual fuck?

>>126892470
Everything Islam has touched has turned into shit.
Guess your countries are next.

We fought too hard and too long, we lost, we were conquered but we resisted and we finally expelled Islam from our countries. But the damage was already done.
The sad thing for you, is that you don't fight, you invite Islam in. You're going to pay for that mistake and the time will come when we shall be ahead again.

>>126893139
ićnigger detected

>>126892006
that's balkanigger humour for balkanigger leftovers

>>126893435
Still mostly unknown because commushits are everywhere. Wasn't even in OUR history books until really recently.

>>126893313
I get about 440 per month.

40+ years = 800+ EUR
39 = 800-30-the type of work you did
38 = 700 - 30 - the type of work you did
etc

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>>126891011
>siberia
get your shit together shqiptar diaspora

>>126888771
Do not include Greeks, Turks, Croatians or Slovenians:
>Cheap labour
>Do not assimilate
>Delinquency
>Living on welfare
>Kinda retarded

Romanians commit as many crimes as moroccans here in Spain. They´re a mess

>>126893334

As an American, I'd like to inform you that anyone north of Athens is not a real Greek anyway.

>>126891355
Kek what the fuck kind of reasoning is this

Serbian has a lot of Turkish loanwords, does that mean Turkey was in the Balkans first?

>>126893506
You know what's also funny. People here (40+ yrs old) didn't knew what a gulag was. They only heard of "Goli Otok" and put it under the rug

>>126893507
how the fuck are you getting 400euro a month

i just filled my parents taxes and they are getting just over $21,000 a month from pensions alone.

>>126893787
ah Macedonia.
yall have a beautiful country filled with ugly people.
i remember going to Krushevo and celebrateing their independence day...shooting ak's into the air, then going to ohrid and getting into fights with shqiptars because i have a serbian tattoo.

>>126893787
Even if not many Italians are left there, we still want our land back from the croats.

>>126893805
Yeah that surely sounds completly fine:
21.000$ *12(months) * 2(persons) = 504.000$ per year (from pensions alone)
> Your grandparents become millionairs from pension alone in less than 2 years

>>126888771
>Why are we so destructive kind of people?
Lowest IQs in Europe.

>>126893805
My dad had to quit his job after they found cancer in his throat. He had an operation and lived for another 10 years. Since he had to quit after "only" 30 years on the job, that meant that he was liable only for the lowest pension in the country. At the time this was about 200EUR. Since he was disabled (he couldn't talk) his union got him a regular 500EUR pension. After he died me and my mom inherited his pension. My mom now lives elswhere and doesn't need it since she has her own, so his pension goes to me now.

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>>126890080
>Albanians (because they aren't native to the Balkans).

1. A big group of albanians belong to the E-V13 haplogroup which is Old European Farmer stock. Then there is J2a also (which is southern european. J2b is Anatolian). And then I2, R1b, etc.

2. Albanian language is divided into TWO main dialect groups GHEG and TOSK which also are pretty genetically different. These two dialects differ significantly enough, with many changes being identical to a dialectal shift that happened to the LATIN language during the time of the Roman empire (N's become R's in Southern Albanian) which means that Albanian speaking people have been in the balkans since AT LEAST the time of the roman empire.

All the Balkans are the same people with only very minor differences in culture and religion and this is the thing that makes them angriest. No "we are all the same no more borders" bullshit, I mean they are actually the same people. Go take a look at them. Go look at their genetics.

To look at the other guy, who your ancestors have been fighting for generations, who your grandma told you not to trust because they desecrated her husband's cemetery, to hate them with such millenium-old fervor that even on something as an inocuous youtube video you have no choice but to talk about them and how much you hate them, you do this forever and ever since the day you were born....

Because the other guy is you. Because you're a couple hundred geographic miles from being the same exact thing you hate. And in this, inspires a great pride for being born in a particular place at a particular time, following a particular religion. But remove all of those things and you have, basically, African-tier tribes fighting over watermelons.

>>126889724
Northern greece is balkan, moron

>>126894388
Oh shit, I thought we had pensioners on /pol/. Condolensces for your father.

>>126894296
they live in an expensive area, coupled with their medical problems and vacations they dont really set aside much to become what you envision

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>>126891233
Romania was never conquered,it was a vassal state with it's own laws.
fucking shitskin

>>126894519

Geographically, yes.

>>126894388
sorry for your loss

>>126888902
Balkans have a history of conflicts long before Ottomans came here. In fact, we were kinda united in our fight against Ottomans before we went back at killing each other.

>>126894296
>slavshit doesnt get any banter
Tи cи тoчнo eднa oт пpичинитe зaщo вcички ни cчитaт зa идиoти, кypвo.

>>126888771
You included Turkey in the Balkan states, for a start.
Ridicule should be expected.

>>126888771
Well first of all north FYROM is serbian and south FYROM is greece so that's one of the problems that balkans have

>>126892165
Lobotomized by the turkroach rape-mix

>>126894654
So the only thing that can unite us is a common enemy?
Damn...

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>>126894601
>hur dur geographically speaking
Balkan is a geographical term

>>126894672
他妈的关心什么东西
get it? because you're asian

>>126894855
We are too 89iq and tribalistic. We kinda need some big other to unite us in our struggle.

Balkans under the Ottomans
>stable
>had religious rights
>had minority rights
>was relatively wealthy

Balkans under Independece
>shithole
>war torn
>poor as fuck
>Europe's Afghanistan

Enjoy your independence, you pricks.

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Read up on the Dinaric Race:
>http://www.ethnopedia.info/physantro.html

>>126894601
Who was the majority there 100 years ago? It's more than geographic

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>>126892165
i like how "there is no data" for reputable Euro statistics for Serbia
but when there is an IQ, dick size, cuckold stat. suddenly there are statistics

>>126894922
And yet the OP was discussing cultural/behavioral similarities.

Is part of Greece on the Balkan peninsula?
Yes.

Is Greek civilization therefore culturally similar to Slavic civilization?
No.

Try to follow the discussion next time.

>>126895030
>Balkans under the Ottomans
What about Balkans under Austria-Hungary? Region where I live in was under Ottoman Empire for only 150 years, it was much longer under Austria-Hungary.

>>126894538
>>126894643
thanks

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>>126895165
you realize you just proved my point right?

>>126892450
pretty sure he is a serb diaspora living in norway and saying that the bosnians and serbs take over slovenia

>>126892165
I think it's the appropriate thread to ask this :

Why are albanians so dumb ? Are they even white ?

>>126895370
Nope, unless your point was that geographic terms like "Balkan" don't allow you to group dissimilar cultures together due to proximity alone and then treat them as if they were culturally similar.

If that was your point, then you have to realize that was actually my entire point with my first post in this thread, as shown here:
>>126889724

Which means you never understood anything I said and disagreed with me only because you didn't understand my posts.

>>126889561
is Greece.

>>126893099
you had concentration camps for slovenes and croats so stfu.

>>126895020
we need another Tito

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>>126895573
are you fucking serious, you are going to say
>Is Greek civilization therefore culturally similar to Slavic civilization? No.
when slavs came to balkans in ~550ad . and half of them use greek alphabet, greek orthodoxy.

Just as we removed the turks and everything started going in a positive direction ww1,ww2 happened and after that even worse the intellectual elite formed during this post-ottoman period got massacred and expelled from their respective countries leaving mostly ordinary easy to control folk.

>>126895911
>are you fucking serious, you are going to say

Yes, I am.

>>126895573
Actually Greece was mainly inhabited by bulgarians, vlachs, turks and albanians a few centuries ago (before the establishment of the greek state) so it's more balkan than you think. It's just that the greek nationalists have washed most of these elements away in the last few centuries.

>>126895030
t. ahmed

>>126896020

Woah, TIL.

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someone nuke us already

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>>126895945
>just as we removed the turks
Bulgo bro. you are the epitomy of Turkic rape baby. Half your blood is Cuman/Kipcak already

Because of Yugoslavia you will forever lump us in together with inbred of balkan, won't you?

Fucking putting Slovenia next to Bosnia and Turkey should be a criminal act. We have nothing in common. You're only accepted inside the borders to dig roads for us, get real.

>>126893805
pensions are a ponzi scam in SI; it's a PAYG monopoly system based on monthly wealth redistribution, whereas you burgers have a choice how and where you place your retirement funds

>>126896020
Turk and bulgarian rapebabies who lived in Greece got banished from Greece with the exchange population

>>126888902
What in particular did the Ottomans do?

>>126895945
>we
you mean russkies removed the t*rkroaches

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>>126896307
google Janissary for starters

>>126896377
First with them, then with greek and serbian fags during the First Balkan War

>>126896307
bloox tax, rape/kill/steal babies every year

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>>126895119

>>126896197
>le20% faec has the never to talk about whiteness
Yeah it sway better in America where women worship niggers, at least youre not a rapebaby but a willingly done nigglet

>>126888771
better stayed or joined the russian empire so you just were the european dumping place and quasikebabshield...

>>126889135
Only our governments

>>126896197
/b/tier bait,but i'll still reply
The people you presume to be of turkic origin from where my ethnonym comes from BULGAR-ian are only presumed to be of turkic origin
and there's no exact definite proof,they're referenced as a mixed tribe of people and there's lots of theories ranging from them being turkic to
being indo-iranian in their roots,Asparukh is a Middle-Iranian name for example..
Plus they were very few to leave a mark in the genes of the people inhabiting these lands,in the end they got assimiliated by the slavs,thracians and other tribes that inhabited their domain.

>>126896488
>rape/kill/steal babies every year
rapes didn't occur but we had blood tax where we gave babies to ottomans just to be brainwased into turks ultimately to serve as jannisaries

>>126895518
the iq werent tested, but they were derived from exams.
albania had a pretty shitty system and in addition serbs even closed some schools.

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>>126896493
also

>>126896305
... and replaced with other turks lol. Have you read what the Greeks called the migrants that settled in Macedonia from asia minor?

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>>126896479
REMOVE KEBAB AGAIN WHEN?

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>>126896307
they didn't swim so good

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>>126896520
>le nigger meme in america
you know america has over 300 million people and is larger than Europe right? not everyone follows your narrative.

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>>126888771

Have visited Bulgaria twice. Place is a nightmare, It must be a Bulgarian local custom, to be rude, theft prone arseholes.

>Bulgaria sucks.

>>126896674
I actually think they were most likely something like Scythians

>>126896676
there were rapes but to only Balkanites who rebeld against them,lucky for us that we were Croatia tier stable boi to them.

i'm curious, if I were to move in one of those countries : which one would i pick, and would slavettes blondy qt 3.14 want my dick because i'd be the rich White man, or would I get stabbed ?

>>126896787
>he unironically thinks he lives in a white country when literally most people there don't have blue eyes and even less blonde hair
Yeah whatever just don't forget to pay that 5%whiteness tax and prep the bull you fucking faggot.

>>126896706
Yes they were prejoratively called "Turks". Even though these descendants of Ionians gave them the gifts of the Bozouki and Rembetiko music.

>>126890612
Are you retarded?
Do you even know what they did to Serbs in WW2? Is it ok to make camp for kids only? And some Serbs still call them brothers.

>>126896985
depends where exactly you would like to go, but probably yeah

>>126896985
like any other alien, you'd be an alien in an alien land

>>126896985

Depends. Slovenia is literally Germany of balkans. Croatia is fucking amazing if you like seaside.

Rest is garbage and I hope to god you are not misfortunate enough to end up in any of these countries, not even by chance, not even for an hour.

>>126888771
Proud Macedonian-American here. How goes the homeland?

>>126895030
>Balkans under the Ottomans
>>>stable
>>>was relatively wealthy
t. Abdul with single digit IQ

>>126896985
From all the Westerners French are the only ones that are liked by Serbs,there is even one my neighbour and shes married to a French men and one girl that married to a French and moved to my village.

>>126896800
we don't like mudslimes, mohamed

>>126897108
croatia is at the top of my list right now, so thats comforting anon

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>>126896674
>>126897009

cumans,
kipchaks
pecenegs

>>126897145
As in the real Macedonia or the fake, third world, roach infested one?

>>126896741
Well, it didn't go that well last time

>>126897369
No one would ever call themselves "Macedonian-American" if he wasn't from FYROM.

He would just call himself Greek-American instead.

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>>126892165
man the turks sure fucked us up

>>126896741
lol whose the faggot that's wearing a dress??
which nation does he represents???

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chanon punct ro imageboard romanesc tiganilor

>>126897354
>posting a gypsy
Do I need to dump my shart folder?

>>126896800
Cultural difference. People here are too polite, in fact they are so polite that it looks fake the majority of the time to a foreigner. People in the Balkans will help if you ask but they won't smile at you every time they see you which is the reason why they seem so angry and rude to a person used to everyone smiling, greeting, doing small talk etc. As a student in the UK this politeness is probably what seemed the weirdest to me when I first came.

>>126897369
The region of Greece in the far north where they speak a Bulgarian dialect. We associate culturally with FYROM though.

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>>126897538
>dress

It's a kilt you moron

>>126888771
The Balkans nations and Russia Will be the best European nations soon. People following the religion of peace don't really like to work. So we westerners will soon pay 80% tax.

>>126897354
>The Cumans were reported to have had blond hair, fair skin and blue eyes (which set them apart from other groups and later puzzled historians)

and by the way
Azis's is a turk,gypsy,jew,bulgarian hybrid

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>>126897551

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>>126897707
I don't see anything wrong with Trifon

>>126892006
Don't consider yourself Slovenian if you look/speak like that.

>>126897800
He looks like a fucking werewolf i guess

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>>126897800
he makes ribery look like a model

>>126897674
no that's a dress that would my sister wear durring a hot sumer day,I mean you deffinetly have to be a fag to wear something like that.

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>>126897707

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>>126897954
post your sister

>>126896800
That is exactly what am i wondering. Why are we rude and think we are smart.
>>126897145
The homeland is not going well. Trying to get out of here, preferably USA

>>126897685
The worst part is that Westerners are allready moving here,I live in Northern part of Serbia and Germans are slowly moving here and their excuse is that their ancestors used to lived here until they were moved away at the end of WW2 and also shit ton off Russians and French.

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>>126898037
blacks arent even the biggest minorty anymore
id believe it more if you ment latino hybrid

>>126898229
you would too if your country was invaded

>>126898194
shes 13 you disgusting pedophile

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>>126898262

I dont wanna talk about history, but present?
Its not half bad as people think. Here in Croatia I have great relations with Serbs, hell, after few youth exchanges we are getting folks to come back here asap. Some even stayed here. My best friend and ex-bandmate is a Serb

So yeah, about the whole Serbo-Croatian bad relationship, its not half bad as people make it to be.

>>126898333
>bulgarian american 71k
you fucked yourself with that meme

>>126898400
i have croatian friends too, they're bros, more appealing than any other neighbor

>>126898314
knowing westerners they will start shilling for mudslimes in our countries
they need to abandon their pussy mentality or go back

>>126898501
yup, just need to defend our place, no gibs to anyone and we shall prevail

>>126898218
Do you have a parliament yet? Are people protesting at all?

>>126898314
but Russians are not getting invaded by Muslim Refugees their all economical migrants,I used to live in a building witch was full of Serbians until recent years where Russians started to move now the parks where I live are all mixed with Serbs and Russians,not to mention when I go to my village huge hauses has been constructed and Russian families live there,but I kinda get them I spoke with one Russian and he said that he wanted first to move to down town in Moscow and he and his family sold their apartment,car and some other shit and in the end they decided to move to Serbia because they knew that we are friendly to Russians and Orthodox

>>126898757
russia has already plenty of muslims I'm afraid

>>126898698
Not yet, but we will have soon. And after the president gave the mandate to Zoran Zaev, people stopped protesting

>>126898757
Apart from tourists, we are also getting a bunch of Russians here. They love us and we love them. No reason not to, they act like we do here with a slight language twist.

>>126888771
Too much kebab blood in your veins.

>>126899007
Just comeback to us my dear roleplaying Serb

>>126897619
Cheers for the insight.

>>126898469
>everyone is leeching off him
>says how I'm the one who is getting fucked
top kek

>>126898695
yes, we're lucky we were born here. i love your country, i will move to live there at the first opportunity (if you don't mind kek)

>>126899007
Oh he did that? Do people fear Albanization now?

As somebody from Kosovo, it's not that bad. It's basically a living /pol/ without the autism.

>>126899146
there's plenty of islands for people to wait out the war, just come on over

>>126899175
Albanization is a real thing? kek
>>126899146
Do you like to swear, drink rakija and deus vult? welcome

>>126899038
They are starting to get pretty annoying to me,they expect that all Serbs understand their language just because some schools teach Russian.There were some Russian parents in my sisters school that all complained that the school neds to teach kids Russian and not French.

>>126899175
They never did. It was just a good propaganda to hide their criminal (talking about vmro-dpmne)

>>126899335
Yeah my Dad's friend works for a Macedonian rights group and he gets criticized for being too soft on the Albanian issue.

>>126899374
it's not their fault, when they watch Putin they get the idea they are mighty but the fact that they are a paper tiger never crossed their minds

>>126899335
>Do you like to swear, drink rakija and deus vult? welcome
thanks, i mean you have just described serbian factory settings kek

>>126899309
>to wait out the war
t-thanks

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>>126897354
>defining a turkish gipsy fag as a comparison with an average bulgarian
>kek

constantinople will be retaken

>>126899710
Бaт Aзиc из џacт eн eвepeџ Бyгap бpe.

>>126900240
Come the fuck on. The discussion went to AZIS. I repeat AZIS...

i. History matters for collective narratives. During the last millenium the Balkans were always a tension zone between Christian Catholic Europe on its Northwest (Austria Hungary, Bohemia, Italy), Orthodox Catholic Europe on its Northeast (Russia) and the Middle East on its southern flank. Samuel Huntington (not that I agree with its work though) coined these areas as civilizational tension areas because two distinct cultures meet and are thus conflict prone (other examples would be Central America, the Indo-Pakistani border, Xinjiang).
ii. Spatial relativity matters. If the Balkans were in Africa, you'd probably be the envy of the whole of the continent. However, being embedded in a highly critical region of the glob having neighbours with successful economies doesn't properly help to perpetuate this image.
iii. The 90s. Actually pre 90s it all seemed that this idea was out of date. Jugoslavia and Greece were relatively successful, indeed. But well, everyone knows what happened.

>>126895030
>Independence
that's a false form of independence

>>126888771
>Kosovo
>Macedonian flag
I wonder who could be behind this post

>>126890943
This. Albanians and Greeks are the only indigenous people in the Balkans. Everyone else came after 6th century.

>>126891355
LMAO what a fucking retard. This is what happens when your genes are a muttation of Turkish and Serbian, you become a retard^2

>>126901572
Didn't meant to hurt anybody's feelings. Pic is random from images.google.com on keyword "Balkan"
And no, im not albanian

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>>126889533
Man all the people who ran the BKP here in Bulgaria still the run the 2 major parties we have, they are crooks to the core, it's not over.

>>126902982
It's always the giant douche and the turd sandwich isn't it? :)

Ottomans never truly ruled us. We always backstabbed them

>>126896479
Stop shithead, you we took your part of macedonia because you betrayed us when habsburg wanted to declare war upon serbia, deal was to fight together against them in that case shithead

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>>126889186
The Hungarian half isn't, the rest of it certainly is.

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Another explanation is that orthodoxy is associated with dumb people. Don't believe me? Look at countries like Russia, Serbia or Romania, and then look at countries that are either protestant or catholic.
You can't develop if you still have people who kiss some old saint bones and pray to God for food, instead of working to get it

>>126888771
>Romania
>balkans

>>126903711
I've seen a recent study that says southern romanians genes are more related to balkans and italians, eastern romanians are more related to slavs, and northern romanians to hungarians and germans. Maybe that explains while the south is full of lazy and stupid people, and the east is full of aggresive drunktards (you can't distiguish them from russians).
They are the ones voting for corrupt politicians despite the fact that they are poor because of them, and that explains this map.

>>126904258
>> propagating this meme, try harder scrub

>>126904913
Don't you think this is true? You must be a drunk and lazy moldavian.
What's the last time your drunk father beat your mom?

I, for one, would welcome burying old rivalries, and forming a slavic union against the cuckoldry that is the west. Putin's Russia need not apply, though. We don't want to become a puppet, 45 years of terror was enough.

>>126903892

Go away jew.

>>126905282
this

>>126905282
craiova group + greece + montenegro + fyrom

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>>126891811
>we don't slaughter the indigenous, we mix up and sometimes our cultures dominate
That's not true. We fucked everything throughout history. Asians, indians, iranians, slavs, arabs, greeks, white-balkan people you name it. That's the reason we speak in Turkish but look like anatolian.

>>126905282
All for it. we need to create our own block inside the EU and fuck with them

>>126905297
I'm 100% daco-roman oltean. Si spun roman pentru ca romanii s-au asezat pe teritoriul Olteniei and au venit in Dacia. Betivii din Moldova, si corciturile daco-bozgore din Transilvania nu au nici o legatura cu urmasii lui Trajan.

Is banging a 25%/75% macedonian/slovenian chick race mixing?

>>126905479
what's going on with V4 though, you were invited there?

>>126905418
>That's the reason we speak in Turkish but look like anatolian.
you are balkan rapebabies, so i don't think you fucked us :^)

>>126905479
>>126905411
>>126905346
This.
Make it happen, governments! There is literally ZERO reason to bicker about who-did-what a hundred years ago when most people from Eastern Europe are bro-tier and share similar culture and traditions. Vishegrad and Craiova groups have a lot in common, as do other countries such as Macedonia and somewhat Greece.

>>126905745
we will obey our german overlords. sorry bros.

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>>126905521

>I'm 100% daco-roman
>oltean
HAHAHAHAH

> Si spun roman pentru ca romanii s-au asezat pe teritoriul Olteniei and au venit in Dacia.
Romani din afara teritoriului carpatin au fost disipatii de migratile post Romane.

>>126906063
fuck, those germans i swear

>>126888771
The problem is fake countries like macedonia,bosnia,kosovo,montenegro,moldavia.

>>126906237
How old are u?

>>126906065
Bai, bozgorule (sau slavule), perfectul simplu de unde mortii tai crezi ca vine? Nu din limba latina?
Ex. "veni" de la "veni, vidi, vici". Si inca ceva, vlahii si aromanii care si-au pastrat limba asa cum a fost ea de secole, folosesc perfectul simplu. "am" din "am venit" vine din limba slava.
Asa ca taci in mortii tai de corcitura de bozgor (sau de rus).

>>126900399
It always does.

>>126906659
Older than your country probably.

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The same deal with countries that left USSR.

People in those countries are unable to govern themselves.

Honestly we should just conquer them again.

>>126889186
It partially is.

>>126906667
>asa cum
>ass cum

ROMANIANS = HOMOSEXUALS

>>126907097
come fite me irl roach

>>126905124
Projecting this bad.

>>126903892
Not reading, The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism and being this pleb.

>>126893742
Wait what, what exactly are you trying to say here

>>126905701
Depends on her IQ and in what culture she was raised.

>>126905521
>oltean
Jet in pula mea, știi și tu ce ar trebuii să știe fiecare roman și o dai în we wuz romanz


Să nu mai vorbim de faptu ca e cultura generală ca vii din colțu țării care a contribuit cu fix nimic la societatea românească dar produce indivizi cu mentalitatea smiorcului

>>126908406
Sa nu uitam de coatele ascutite pentru care au devenit celebrii.

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>>126892165
>serb/croat 8 point difference
>bosnians smarter than romania
>montenegro 4 points off serbia, ethnically same people

>>126908406
http://www.radiocraiova.ro/top-20-personalitati-din-oltenia/
Mars de aici, corcitura de bozgor ce esti. Daca nu va eliberau oltenii si moldovenii in Primul Razboi Mondial stateati si astazi capra la bozgorii din Ardeal.
Sa nu mai vorbim de faptul ca istoria, cultura si cladirile istorice din Transilvania le apartin bozgorilor si secuilor. Voi pana la sfarsitul WW1 erati sclavi.

>>126909121
bozgorilor si sasilor*

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>>126890662
I came to germany when j was 10 y old.
14 y later and I still cam not comprehend how germans can be such drones.

It is like their spirit has been crushed long ago and all they have is escapism into work and rules. I will never get used to this and this is why I will be moving before my spirit gets totally crushed as well. This weather is Scandinavia light.

>>126888771
What's the best Balkan country where you can live for under $1000 per month? I want to be a NEET someday

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Man this thread sure turned into a shitshow real fast.

>>126907097
>that pic
>that fille name
It's funny that the most elite soldiers off the Ottoman Empire were bunch of childern taken by the Turks and brainwashed just so they can later fuck and marry Turkish women.
What comes around goes around

>>126888771
greece is med not balkan

>>126909121
>bozgor

Vezi ce prost ești? Sunt moldovean cu rădăcini din transilvania și acum stau în (((București))), am văzut mai din toate, nu o să-mi schimbi opinia cu radio Craiova.

Normal ca fiecare regiune are merele sale, dar în general nu am înțeles niciodată mentalitatea asta.

>>126888771
only one true civilization among them

>>126888771
FUCK YOU ROM
FYROM

>>126909926
thanks pham means alot coming from you,can I get my own version of Simonida plox??

>>126909514
It depends on how you want to live. With only a $1000 per month life will be really shitty here

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>>126910014
This is the fucking problem i love Hellas,but they hate us,you should hate muslims not us faggot

>>126910078
same here 10$ would be just enough for breakfast

>>126910148
greece is the only non slavic country that loves slavs idiot

>>126909514
Slovenia/Greece - my opinion

>>126910148
how couldn't they, you currently own Alexander the great by birthplace and your clay was greek for centuries.

It is just a matter of history repeating itself.
Early Human (you)
Neandorthal (us)

We still have neandorthal DNA and religional is just a messages of rules or excuses to makes us go extinct again.

>>126890662
>only nations on earth

south america nigger

>>126909514
I might be biased since I am a Bulgarian, but Bulgaria. It has one of the lowest taxes in the EU and if you manage to make your income independent of the country's shit wages (i.e online) you'll literally live like a king. Well, maybe not a king but a baron for sure. And everyone here is so desperate and incapable of earning money that they'll view you as some successful genius. Hard work here earns you some $10 (not per hour, per day)

As for $1000 per month, yes. Just stay away from the capital and you'll be able to rent a very comfy gommie block for $100 a month with the rest of them available to you for very cheap food (a kilo of meat is about $5 here)

>>126891354
isn't it time to prep the bull ,sven?

>>126888771

communism and Muslims is the problem ....


wake up before be erdogan's next bitch