Why did they dress like the Addams Family?

Better question: why does the pope dress like a Jew? Answer me, Soros.

>trump smile
top kek

>>126882693
thought the same

Ivanka looking like an old timey mom looking down disappointed at her misbehaving children.

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Why does the Pope look so grumpy?

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What's his endgame?

>>126882852
cant fuck

>>126881343

That shit eating grin by Trump. I fucking love it.

>>126882852
you'll be grumpy too if you had to talk 40 minutes with a 12 years old retard

>>126882973
I didn't know he met Clinton recently

>>126881343
Attending the grave of catholocism

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>>126882852
The pope only got 1 scoop, but donald got 2.
Its not fair DRUMPHY DRMUP

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>>126883066
>I sure did

I like the pope 2bh. He seems nice. If you're still retarded enough to believe in Dog that's your fault not his.

https://youtu.be/iMJ25rYvXwQ?t=2608

>>126883214

Time code didn't work

43:27

>>126882852
He saw ivanka and had sinfull thoughts
(not as sinfull as trump though, who wants to fuck his daughter)

>>126881343
>go to Saudi Arabia
>don't wear a headscarf
>go to the Vatican
>cover your head
Melania is fucking trolling and I love it

>>126881343
Women can't enter the pope palace without covering up their hair.

>>126883336
you want to fuck her too

>>126883346
First thought as well kudos to her for sticking it to the Arabs.

>>126883417
Off course, but we are not related

>>126883517
that would stop you?

I had to look at the Pope twice to make sure he wasn't the FUCKING AMERICANS guy from Taboo.

>>126881343
it's custom in Catholicism for a women to dress modestly with her head covered. It's not required like a Hijab, but in a Church the man traditionally takes his hat off and the woman puts something over her head... They're showing more solidarity with Catholicism than Islam, refusing to wear a required Hijab while wearing optional modest clothing.

>>126883346
my sides have no borders

>>126883346
Thought the same, fuck the rag heads.

>>126882864
To crash christianity with no survivors

>>126883373
Should be the same in camel land but she didn't give a fuck about it did she?

>>126882625
This. He's even wearing a Jew hat.

>>126881343

If there is any image that exist that shows that Trump truly lives in his own World, its this image right here

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>>126881343

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>>126881343
what is with Ivanka's neck?

>>126883059
Protestantism is not christian

>>126885345

so far so good

but wait, isn't it dead already?

>>126885539
She is taking the bogpill, soon she will wear the chin

>>126885609
Well it's already dead since 1905 in France

>>126885345
This.

This pope literally embodies and reveals everything retarded about Christianity.

>>126885663
Now France is Muslim.

>>126881343
because the Roman Catholic Church is presently dead. They dressed for the funeral.

>>126885699
t. southern american protestant

>>126885736
No, it's socialist

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>>126885699
Yeah, doesn't he browses zesty memes?

>>126883193

I'm an atheist and I feel bad as fuck for Catholics worldwide who have to deal with this (((pope))). This fraud pope is a kike and a cuck.

>>126885663

I guess the endgame is to kill most people and replace them by robots.

If that is true what should be my strategy?

>>126881343
where is baron?

>>126885699
Protestantism is the most retarded of christianity

>>126885840
Avoid the Vatican and robots.

>>126883346
Melania is a Catholic.

>>126882852
Like Obama he has to bend the knee to the guy he was talking shit about all election

>>126883056

nice one dingo baby eater

>>126881343
>Le privilège du blanc (Italian: Il privilegio del bianco) is a French term meaning "the privilege of the white" used for a Catholic tradition whereby certain designated Catholic queens and princesses are permitted to wear a white dress and white veil during an audience with the Pope.[1]

>>126885837
Catholicism was always fraudulent kikery.

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>>126885840
Get the wings

>>126885663
And look what France is now. Literally a dead corpse repeatedly beaten by niggers of all people

>>126885768
Eh? I'm a confirmed catholic. This pope is the worst.

>>126885801
I don't identify with this meme.

>>126886009
wtf an informative leaf

>>126885856
He's in the (((kids playground))) having fun with some random priests

>>126886134
Well, I agree, this pope is clearly the worst we had in the recent history

>>126886144
Canadien Français, mon ami.

>>126881343
melania: kill me now

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>>126886060
Meanwhile protestants contradixt the early Christians

>>126886060
Isnt that the opposite mohammed?

http://memory.loc.gov/service/gdc/scd0001/2010/20100409005in/20100409005in.pdf

>>126886281
>immediately gathering together wood and fagots out of the shops and baths; the Jews especially, according to custom, eagerly assisting them in it.

>>126886281
>christlarping
Is it 2014 again?

>>126886254
Un jour vous vous débarrasserez de ces chintoks anglophones régnant depuis Ottawa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XasQu5YQFUM

(content de vivre dans la ville originaire du régiment du marquis de Montcalm, lui même originaire de la même région que celle où je vis, qui ont défendu la nouvelle France face à la perfide)

>>126885699
t.protestantshit

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>>126881343
Rate my OC

my pope would have refused any attendance to the orange kike jagoff

katholicism is for weak and mentally ill faggots

glad I left this pussy assed religion of cheek turners.

>>126886413
>literal veneration of martyr
protestant btfo

>>126886587
OooooOoooh
Very nice!

>>126885801
American protestantism is basically judaism

>>126886587
9/10

>>126886587
Not bad at all, you slavs are good at hacking everything it seems

18/20

>>126882864

his smile and optimism: gone

>>126886102

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7sNWworMiM

It is over Pierre and you know it

>>126885944

easier said than done

>>126886621
I don't care what you do with your bath fagots.

I love Trump

He just looks jubilant in everything he does

True inspiration

>>126881343
hes the only one smiling. I love it

i think the actual answer is that black + scarves is how eastern european women traditionally dress in churches so melania fetched her church outfit for the vatican trip

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>>126882864
DUAE TRULLAE DONALDUS

>>126881343
Why do they look like they just got back from a funeral procession?

>>126886853
>I hate the early christians

>>126886839
It's not like both our countries are used to accomodate with a situation that is close to destroy the whole nation but wake up just before it's all over to reconquer what was lost

The whole french history is basically described that way, don't worry Stanislas, it's not over yet

>>126886060

Jesus was a kike killed by other (((kikes))). Christianity takes place after (((they))) fail.

>>126887021
Making stuff up about me
>Don't bear false witness

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>>126883172
T̳͖͓̤̩͙̮̗̈ͩͮ̓H̬̥̱̞̦̝͗ͤẸ̺͔̳́̌̔̑̋ͤ͑ ̝̠̹̄̏S͚̗͚̠͗̇͊́͌̔͑C̜̮̼̰̗̀ͨͭ̄̌̔̐O͓̮̥͈̪̱ͩ̄́́O̮̭̗̭͕̍̀ͪ͆̉ͤ̆̎ͅO̳̭̯͚͔̍̿̉͌̊̔̚Ó̥̯̼̗̣̥̠̂͊͑̌O͍̥͚̭̗̠͖ͫ̆̂̈Ò̞̥̺̈̐͆͌͐̀ͯP̙͖͉̩̙͍̳̈ͮS̗̳̥͆̔̄͐̽ͫ ̙̗̦̬̳͖͉͙ͭ̽̏̌̋T͖̖͖̩͊ͮ̑̒ͫ̄̑̚R̬̞͖̹͕̭̬̱̂̂ͪ̈ͣ̆Ö͎̞͔͍́ͫ̐̿̈̈́͑͛̿N̘͉̬̫̫̪͂ͧͧ́Ḁ̬̪͇̮̭ͯ̂L͔̺̤͚̓ͅD̙̘̄̔͆̏̊̂ ̻̞͕̬͇̜̣͎ͧ̄̈́G͖͕͖̖ͩ͌ͭͅL̝̗͈̞̠̺̉͌̾̏U̫̗͓̫̓̒ͤͧM͎̻̻̾̓̈́̐̀̉ͪ̔P̪͓͎̾̃͑̔̓̍͑̽F̖̩̻̘͙̈̈́
̤͓̹̞̭͕̄̄̑ͨ͌ͫ̚Ṭ̞̂̐̍H̦̙̘̗̬̹ͫ̓͛̏E͖̞̔͗̎ͯ͑̓ͩ ̺͈͔̻͕̒̔Ŝ̤̥͖̣͉̾͋͐C̙̦̱̭̹̫ͩ͗ͯ̊Ö̜͚̫͕̦͈͙͇͉́̉͋O̝̼ͧͧȮ̱͍̖̭̜̹͆O̭̯̖͔̹͉͂͂O͈̯͆̄O̫̼̱̠̤̳͎̍͌͊́̓O̜̬͆̐̚P̬ͪͣͅṠ̞͓̯̮̦̻ͩͫ
̝̘͔͕̰̞̩̯ͤ̉̌̿Ĭ̖̤̞͙ͫ ̊̀̋͑̊̌̋B̝̝̳̎̇͛͋ͪ̎Â̫̹̘̑̆̒ͦ̆ͅṄ̤͉̣͚̙͖̀̐̈̓̽ͣ̆I̫͉̜̎͐ͪͬS̗̫̗͍͍̦̊͒ͫ̈́ͯ̚̚H̯͖̝͙̦̰̝̦̞ͤ̿͒ͧͫͣ̓̌ ̟̟̟͙̜̞̝͚ͬ̒ͯͅT̩̥̦̈́̇̏ͬ̉ͬ͊H͉̬͓̾ͤ͑́E̥̦̳̠͓ͤ̔͋͋̋͐E͓̹̱̰̐ͨͬͤͬ́ ͎̹̼̺̟̘̝̟̥̉̍ͮͬ̑͗ͫ̎F̬͈͍̰̱̌̎ͮ̓R̜ͦ̈́O̩̮͍̮̠͔ͫͦ̂ͅM̝̻̜̘̗̋ͯ̐ͅ ͓͕̦͍͙ͯT̙̺̦͇͊̾́H̻͕̭̝͚̞̎́̽̋̌ͅḘ̼͈͇̋̋ͨͅ ͚͙̍̍̑̋ͭṮ͉̟̙̣͎͒ͬ̓̓̓ͨ͋W̯̖ͬͩ̐ͦ͐̈́O̺̬̣̟̖̾̓͒̑̌̆ ͙̫̼͍͔̙̞͙͈ͩ̉̓̋S̖̻͍̦̱͓͕̩̔͒͑̆͐̄C͕̎Ȏ͍̦̹͕̻̂ͨ̌̊ͤͨ͂ͅͅÔ̮̯̖̜͈͙̖͚̓͐̓̒ͤ͒P͚̣̱͈̞̋̿̚ ̦̩͓̣͈̄̎̌R͔͕̻͙͉ͭ͛̂̽́̀ͧ͋̇E̹̥̰̜̭̯͔̹͑͐͗ͯ̌͌ͩͅA̗͖̋͑ͬͫ̂̄ͭL̺̱͚̐̐̏ͭͪ͗M̯͇̌͂͑͐͒̊̾̆

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>>126881343

looks familiar

Trump's happy again, Pope is sad, what's goin' on?

>>126881343
They're in mourning over the death of Europe.

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>>126886461
En parlant de Montcalm, le Carillon est un drapeau basé sur le drapeau qui fut utilisé par les troupes de Montcalm lors de la bataille de Fort Carillon.

La Société Saint Jean Baptiste flotte le Carillon-Sacré-Coeur, qui est un Carillon avec le Sacré-Coeur, signifiant que le Québec est Français et Catholique.

https://youtu.be/hF6Lwvo1UBQ

>>126887128
Then explain why the early Christians venerate martyrs

>>126887247
It was a funeral.

>>126887211
I don't know Trump looks pretty stoked about the whole thing if so, did someone mention that fact to him?

>>126885347
because it's not her religion

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>>126887211

>>126887343
He was still alive and christian present at his martyrdom wanted to be the first to touch him. Then later on the dead remains of Polycarp are called "Holy"

That is veneration of a martyr right there

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>>126887218
J'aime bien ce drapeau, dommage qu'on ait abandonné la monarchie en France, on avait un bien meilleur drapeau et ils auraient fait la paire

>>126885801
>end social injustice throughout the world
I really don't think this is in the New Testament. Not even close.

This is something modern socialists want, and they want to relate Christianity to socialism on a vague basis that they are both about
>helping each other
and
>being nice

But Christianity and even the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth are very far away from socialism. Socialism is about ending
>injustice
Christianity doesn't want to end injustice. It sees injustice as a part of mundane life. It wants people to renounce the world with injustice and through self-sacrifice and following the footsteps of the Christ moving from the mundane, the cruel, the necessary towards the otherworldy, the transcendent, the kind.

Christianity isn't about making fair laws, at the max, it would be as a theocracy ultimately communist, but never ever socialist.

Pure communism is an utopia Christianity and Socialism converges towards from very different directions. Forcing people to charity, inciting violent struggle to equality, even trying to establish equality outside the Christian community has nothing to do with the original, moralist, fatalist message of tolerance, non-violence and mysticism.

>>126887567
Yeah, If I was friends with someone or felt close to them in some way I would want to reach out, hold their hand, touch their shoulder or arm in some way to comfort them.

>>126887482
thats why he is smiling. its an i told you so moment

>>126887567
Looks like they fucked up then ?

John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

>the flesh profiteth nothing

>>126887750
Except we are made clear this is NOT the context of it when it describes the Act as eager to the point that they are contending on who is the first to do it

That is NOT reaching out or comforting someone who is about to die

>>126887877
Like all protestants

>>126883517
Why does that matter? Are they not two consenting adults?

>>126881343
These veils aren't a shop? What the fuck is wrong with these people?

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>>126881343
Italy has lots of Gothic architecture so Ivanka and Melania became inspired to be Goth for the day.

>>126882693
fucking kek.

>>126887927

offcourse everyone fucks up otherwise the second comming was not needed

>>126887882
Well, even the Apostles had to be corrected by Christ when they were wrong. And the first century congregation was often corrected when they thought wrongly as well.
I have no reason to doubt that he was holy in God's eyes. But it is God that people are suppose to venerate. Not men.

>>126888128
Protestantism is still false either way

>>126885801
Why do atheists try to coax Christians into giving everything to charity? They essentially take advantage of their good nature.

I'm not even religious and really most of what's important that people take from Christianity deals in how they handle their lives and not sucking the nigger toes of every Somali they see.

>>126881343
>Literally wearing a Catholic Hijab

KEKED
U
C
K
E
D

>>126888152
>tries to deny martyrdom of Polycarp showing veneration of martyrs
>tries to make excuses
>btfo
None of the early christians believe in the five solaes

>>126881343
Because it's the cerimonial dresscode for women meeting the Pope to wear black clothes an cover Their head you fucking kike

>>126885057
You don't what the fuck you Are talking about you burger protestant turd

>>126882852
Here's a bitter old Bolshevik

>>126888164

How can it be false? protestant means you protest something , they cant be all right thus some denominations have to be false

>>126888435
The five SOLAES are false

So all are false

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>>126886587
10/10

>>126882852
He's Argentinean

>>126888524

well read the bible to know whats false and what is true . Like >>126888152 was saying in the bible everyone got corrected , paul rebuked peter , what if there was no one to correct it anymore

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>>126882693
>>126882864

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>>126888780
Tell me when proddies who do that actually agree with each other

Ever wonder if trump planned his World Tour with the Intention to just Troll the World? I mean he is doing great on every occasion and might even Unite Jews and Muslims in the middle east.

What a fucking legend

>>126886493
>>126885935
>>126885768
lol, catholic cucks are salty

>>126888530

It is not a whale but a shark in Pinocchio.

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>>126889199
Meanwhile in reality

>>126881343
This has to be the worst Pope the Catholic church has ever had.

Pro homosexual, Pro Islamic invasion.

Because the Trumps are satanists

Wdf would you dress like for a funeral when meeting the pope

>>126881343
they literally came for his funeral and he found out

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>>126889526
>Wdf would you dress like for a funeral when meeting the pope

Apparently they dressed for tradition so I'm guessing its the whole Nun look.

Its also a slap in the face to the Muslim world because she just dressed like a westerner in Saudi.

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>>126889526
I don't know, Catholics are into Tradition aren't they? Maybe it's become tradition

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>>126889788

>>126881343
think they are mourning dress in support of the victims of the manchester mudshit bombing

The pope appears grumpy because he did not yet fuck a young boy that day.
Catholic = pedo
Bring back religious wars. We need a purging of Catholic pedos.

>>126889788
Meanwhile in early Christianity

"Those, therefore, who desert the preaching of the Church, call in question the knowledge of the holy Priests, not taking into consideration of how much greater consequence is a religious man, even in a private station, than a blasphemous and impudent sophist. Now, such are all the heretics, and those who imagine that they have hit upon something more beyond the truth, so that by following those things already mentioned, proceeding on their way variously, inharmoniously, and foolishly, not keeping always to the same opinions with regard to the same things, as blind men are led by the blind, they shall deservedly fall into the ditch of ignorance lying in their path, ever seeking and never finding out the truth. It behoves us, therefore, to avoid their doctrines, and to take careful heed lest we suffer any injury from them; but to flee to the Church, and be brought up in her bosom, and be nourished with the Lord’s Scriptures. For the Church has been planted as a garden in this world; therefore says the Spirit of God, 'Thou mayest freely eat from every tree of the garden' that is, Eat ye from every Scripture of the Lord; but ye shall not eat with an uplifted mind, nor touch any heretical discord." - AH, 5, 20, 2

>>126881343
Why do the women wear hijabs for the christians but not the muslims?

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>>126889957
Protestants are too busy purging each other

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>>126889879

>>126889983
catholic tradition. its a clear indication that they respect Christianity and not islam traditions.

>>126881343
is this the only picture taken of the meeting?

>>126890032
dont know about anyone else but id have given the d too a young nancy,

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>>126882852
Trump: I will find your pedocollection and you will be locked up like hillary will be, don't forget to smile for the camera *smile

Pope: * grumpy face

>>126890032
"Those, therefore, who desert the preaching of the Church, call in question the knowledge of the holy Priests, not taking into consideration of how much greater consequence is a religious man, even in a private station, than a blasphemous and impudent sophist. Now, such are all the heretics, and those who imagine that they have hit upon something more beyond the truth, so that by following those things already mentioned, proceeding on their way variously, inharmoniously, and foolishly, not keeping always to the same opinions with regard to the same things, as blind men are led by the blind, they shall deservedly fall into the ditch of ignorance lying in their path, ever seeking and never finding out the truth. It behoves us, therefore, to avoid their doctrines, and to take careful heed lest we suffer any injury from them; but to flee to the Church, and be brought up in her bosom, and be nourished with the Lord’s Scriptures. For the Church has been planted as a garden in this world; therefore says the Spirit of God, 'Thou mayest freely eat from every tree of the garden' that is, Eat ye from every Scripture of the Lord; but ye shall not eat with an uplifted mind, nor touch any heretical discord." - AH, 5, 20, 2


Protestants hate this

>>126886587
Not bad
I chuckled

>>126889788
>MSM is already saying Melania looks like she is dressed for a funeral and talking shit
>Michelle did the same thing and all they did was suck her (literal) dick
>>126889879
>>126890032
And yes, its traditional, but better believe everyone's going to make a stink about the Trump's doing it, they've already started.

>>126881343
Dressed like they are going to a funeral... what's the popes role here?

>>126888987
This subhuman

How can you claim to be a christian when you NEVER use the Bible in your arguments. You should read it sometime.

>>126890258
Not the Bible

>>126890258
What is AH?

>>126890005
Not the Bible

>>126881343
I love how the pope looks like he's one step away from pouting over having to be there and Trump is sporting a shit eating grin on his face.

>>126881343
Satanic anglo family flies the colors of the dark lord in vatican city.

more news at 11

>>126889297
Not the Bible

>>126889526

How bluepilled are you?

the pope is the satanist, and the catholic church is evil.

The Trumps are wearing all black because IT IS about to be their funeral. Look at The Don's smile. Look at everyone's expressions. They say it all. He's gonna take them all down... Ivanka is a globalist who doesn't want that, but she has to stand there with her father. the pope looks furious yet powerless, and Melania looks like the wife of a man who just threatened another man across the dinner table.

>>126890553
It is called Adversus Heresies

Here Sola Scripture is denied

>>126890614
>shows history of those using sola scripture and what happens
>irrelevant

>>126890700
Wrong

Protestantism is satanist

>>126890598
>>126890354
Will you proxyflag CIA niggers fuck off with your bullshit narrative?
see
>>126889788
>>126889879
>>126890032

>>126890785
Sola fide, my dude.

>>126890892
Sola fide is false

>>126890739
Written Almost 200 years after Jesus died by a guy in France?
America has been a country for a little over that time gap.

>>126881343
>all of these plebs who don't know about the centuries-old fashion protocols of world leaders meeting the pope
You faggots should lurk more

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an early Christian denying sola fide

>>126890785
Sola scriptura is a catholic term used to pin unknowing protestants.

>>126890826

If you don't think the catholic cult is satanic, you need to stop posting and start reading.

>>126890964
>I hate the early christians

>>126890953
Show me Biblically.

>>126891020
It isn't dumbass

It is a Proddie shit

>>126891016
Not the Bible

>>126891030
Tell me when the early christians are into five solaes

*cricket noises*

>>126881343
t. ivanka giraffe trump

>>126891111
>I hate the early christians

>>126891139

You're on the wrong path, m8

>>126882625
The Jewes have usurped the Institutions of Religion.

>>126891105
Ephesians 2:8-9

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves:it isthe gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Sola Fide

>>126891063
Romans 2:5-13 5 "But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God 6 Who will RENDER TO EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS: 7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: 8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, 9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: 11 For there is no respect of persons with God. 12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; 13 For not the hearers of the law [are] just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified."

Doesn't fit with Sola Fide, now does it?

Huh

I THOUGHT WORKS AND CONDUCT DOESNT MATTER

>>126891246
>I hate history

>>126891174
>implying there were no early heresies

Paul dealt with herisies sprouting in the early churches.

Read Acts

>>126891047
I don't hate him at all.
You are making false claims about me again.
I'm saying he may not have known what he was talking about.
Even Peter who lived right with Jesus was often wrong. At one point, Christ looked at him and said, Get behind me Satan.
That's the problem with putting your faith in the words of men. Even with the holiest of men. The most loved by Jesus. They can be wrong.

>>126891270
Meanwhile....

Galatians 6:7-9: 7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. 9And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

>>126881343

does that make pope Fester?
Trump is def Gomez.
Wednesday and shit what is the old lady's name?
Morticia.

>>126891349
>all the true christian died out

>>126891277
Yup God will judge man by his deeds. This passage is talking about the righouteous judgement of God.

Saved Christians are not judged by God.

>>126891356
>he doesn't know
Just piss off. This is just pathetic excuse 101

Do you think Trump complimented the Vatican's wall?

>>126891349
THIS SO MUCH THIS

>>126891489
>no indication saved christians excluded
>they are anyway

>>126891437
No they didn't die out. The Catholics tried to stomp them out violently. But they weren't able to.

>>126891533
Show me where in that time are the true CHRISTIANS

*cricket noises*

>>126891300

You're blinded by ego, arrogance.

>>126891492
He lived 200 years after Christ. That's not an excuse that's reality.

>>126881343
They literally lack white privilege.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privil%C3%A8ge_du_blanc

>>126891589
So where are examples of them at Irenarus' time

I am waiting

>>126891648
>use history
>ego and ignorance
PRODDIE logic

>>126891612
Christ, the Apostles. Are the best starting place.

>>126891548
You literally have no idea about Biblical truths.


Saved Christians' sin was paid for by Jesus on work on the cross. Judgement is for the damned.

>>126891652
And all the true christian died out

>>126891719
Guess christianity died out

>>126891723
Which of course isn't what Paul said

>>126886587
Lest we forget.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiZqFGLAeAc

>>126882693
Same. I just had a hearty kek after seeing it.

>>126885781
Judaic then.

>>126891734
No they were persecuted for many ages as heresies by the popes

>
Rev. 22-11-14. "11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. 12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city."
Doesn't fit with Sola Fide, now, does it?

>>126891802
Show me then

>>126891668
Getting stomped out. You know at the Council of Nicaea even 300 years later, there was many different beliefs. That was the point of the council. The ones who disagreed lost the ability to teach their faith.

>>126891857
And no evidence for their existence?

>>126891907
Wow didn't know Gnosticism and Arianism are EQUALLY VALID

>>126891919
Read church history. I dont need to prove that sola fide did not die out for my argument to be valid.

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>>126881343
I guess I had to...

A. Hartmann Grisar

"Luther's intolerance is very much at variance with the Protestant view still current to some extent in erudite circles, but more particularly in popular literature. Luther, for all the harshness of his disposition, is yet regarded as having in principle advocated leniency, as having been a champion of personal religious freedom . . . Below we shall, however, quote a series of statements from Protestant writers who have risen superior to such party prejudice:

B. Walther Kohler (P)

"In Luther's case it is impossible to speak of liberty of conscience or religious freedom . . . The death-penalty for heresy rested on the highest Lutheran authority . . . The views of the other reformers on the persecution and bringing to justice of heretics were merely the outgrowth of Luther's plan; they contributed nothing fresh." (5)

C. Karl Wappler (P)

"Even contempt of the outward Word, carelessness about going to church and contempt of Scripture - in this in-stance . . . the Bible as interpreted by Luther - was now regarded as `rank blasphemy,' which it was the duty of the authorities to punish as such. To such lengths had the vaunted freedom of the Gospel now gone." (6)

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>mfw that raphael shitposter with the holy see flag was trump

>>126891971
Those were just the people allowed to even have a voice at that point.
Those that followed just the words of Christ and the Apostles were in fewer number.

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>>126892037
Uhhh....I showed you church history and you rejected it for no reason

>>126882852

Pope got nothing he wanted. Trump probably argued against refugees and for the wall. Like Trump really gives a shit what the Pope thinks.

Does anybody else think that this entire trip was really a GIANT gimme to the Saudis wrt religion. Trump makes a swing through the ME, then sees the pope. Basically the is visiting all the major religious centers, implicitly saying the Saudi's are really the one true Muslim religion.

That, people, is how you realllly make friends with the ruling family. I can't imagine more thoroughly dotting the i's and crossing the t's. Why? Well I only think up to 4d chess.

>>126883346
Yeah, covers her head for the Pope but not for the Muslims

>>126892075
Again, no evidence

Nicaea was dealing with Arians and we know it didn't die out after the council

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>>126883193
The pope is a fucking commie, progressive fuck. And this picture speaks volumes.
>his happiness, gone.

"Only in private hearings with the Pope are women required to cover their heads and wear mourning clothes. In hearings with the Holy Father, women are required to wear a dress with a sober cut and color, which should preferably be black."

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4. John Calvin

A. Will Durant (Secularist)

"Calvin was as thorough as any pope in rejecting individualism of belief; this greatest legislator of Protestantism completely repudiated that principle of private judgment with which the new religion had begun. He had seen the fragmentation of the Reformation into a hundred sects, and foresaw more; in Geneva he would have none of them." (122:473)

B. Georgia Harkness (P)

"There was little political liberty in Geneva under Calvin's regime, and still less of religious liberty. His practical influence was on the side of an autocratic state and complete conformity of the individual to the established powers." (123:222)
5. Heinrich Bullinger: Most Tolerant of the Intolerant (Will Durant)

Bullinger was undoubtedly the most tolerant Protestant Founder:

"[He] avoided politics . . . sheltered fugitive Protestants, and dispensed charity to the needy of any creed . . . he approached a theory of general religious freedom." (122:413)

>>126892139
Because you use it as authority on doctrine which it is NOT.

>>126892248

so was jesus my dude

>>126892222
It focused on the divinity of the Son. But it also focused on the canon laws as well.

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>>126892317
7. The Persecuted Become the Persecutors!

One of the many tragi-comic ironies of the Protestant Revolution is the fact that even persecuted Protestants failed to see the light:

"Often the resistance to tyranny and the demand for religious freedom are combined, as in the Puritan revolution in England; and the victors, having achieved supremacy, then set up a new tyranny and a fresh intolerance." (123:222)

"Multitudes of Non-Conformists fled from Ireland and England to America; . . . What is amazing is the fact that, after such experiences, those fugitives did not learn the lesson of toleration, and did not grant to those who differed . . . freedom . . . When they found themselves in a position to persecute, they tried to outdo what they had endured . . . Among those whom they attacked was . . . the Society of Friends, otherwise known as Quakers." (92:207)

>>126882693
Impressive

>>126892328
Negative

He didnt not steal from tbe rich. He told tbe rich to give away their riches.

BIG difference

>>126892401
And nowhere did it even bother addressing or even acknowledged the existence of your unicorn sect

>>126886587

nextTG/10

>>126885357
literally a Pope hat

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>>126892503
II. PROTESTANT DIVISIONS AND MUTUAL ANIMOSITIES

1. General Observations

Dissensions plagued Protestantism from the start, even though one would think that a religion stressing individualism and conscience would be free from such shortcomings and would promote mutual respect. The myth of Protestant magnanimity and peaceful coexistence (especially in its infancy) dies an unequivocal death as the facts are brought out:

A. Patrick O'Hare

"A volume might be filled with indubitable facts to prove the intolerant spirit of Luther and of the various sects which his rebellion originated. The quarrels, hostilities and jealousies that constantly arose among one and all made them a prey to the fiercest dissensions. They anathematized and persecuted each other . . . and indulged in the coarsest and vilest invective . . . The Lutherans . . . denounced and excluded the reformed Calvinists from salvation. The Calvinists roused up the people against the Lutherans . . . Zwingli complained of Luther's intolerance when he was the victim . . . but he and his followers threw the poor Anabaptists into the Lake of Zurich, enclosed in sacks." (50:293)

B. Calvin's Revealing Letter to Melanchthon

"It is indeed important that posterity should not know of our differences; for it is indescribably ridiculous that we, who are in opposition to the whole world, should be, at the very beginning of the Reformation, at issue among ourselves." (50:293)

Melanchthon replied:

"All the waters of the Elbe would not yield me tears sufficient to weep for the miseries caused by the Reformation." (92:88/12)

>>126886587
Headscarf matches curtains

>>126892490
No, it didn't bother to ask people if they thought they should follow just the words of Christ and the Apostles. I 100% agree. 300 years after Christ died a group of men got together and decided that they would be the ones to decide the way things would be. And over time the Church attempted to stomp the people out who disagreed.

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>>126892578
2. Luther and Lutherans on Zwingli and His Followers

"I will not read the works of these people, because they are out of the Church, and are not only damned themselves, but draw many miserable creatures after them." (113;v.1:466)

"Zwingli was an offspring of hell, an associate of Arius (13), a man who did not deserve to be prayed for . . ." (113;v.1:466)

"Zwingli was greedy of honour . . . he had learnt nothing from me . . . Oecolampadius thought himself too learned to listen to me or to learn from me." (51;v.4:309/14)

"Zwinglians . . . are fighting against God and the sacraments as the most inveterate enemies of the Divine Word." (111;v.5:220-21/15)

"Heretics who had broken away . . . ministers of Satan, against whom no exercise of severity, however great, would be excessive." (50:286)

"It would be better to announce eternal damnation than salvation after the style of Zwingli or Oecolampadius." (46:85)

Who is right?

>>126892649
And it shows no evidence it is against your magical unicorn sect

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>>126892659
Luther rejoiced at the news of Zwingli's death on the battlefield in 1531, and said that he had met "an assassin's end" (46:86). And when Zwingli's associate Oecolampadius shortly followed him to the grave, Luther concluded that "the devil's blows have killed him." (46:86)

"It is well that Zwingli . . . lies dead on the battlefield . . . Oh, what a triumph this is . . . How well God knows his business." (45:139)

"Zwingli is dead and damned, having desired like a thief and a rebel, to compel others to follow his error." (113; v.1:466)

The Lutherans proclaimed in full synod:

"The Zwinglians . . . we do not even grant to them a place in the church, far from recognizing as brethren, a set of people, whom we see agitated by the spirit of lying, and uttering blasphemies against the Son of Man." (113;v.1:466)

The Zwinglians believed that the Eucharist was wholly symbolic (probably the majority position of Protestants today). Hence, whoever believes the same would have had the foregoing said about them by Dr. Luther, who firmly held to Consubstantiation, i.e., the actual Body and Blood of Christ is present in the communion along with the bread and wine.

>>126892756
It wasn't a sect. It was people following the words of Christ.

Better to ask why Trump's head is to the right of the bottom of the obvious tree of life behind him.

>>126892825
Again no evidence for their existence

>>126892659
The forging of the freedom to worship God how you see fit my dude. Thats the fruit of Protestantism.

Don't you have some proddies to burn still?

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>>126892821
3. Zwingli and His Cohorts on Luther

Zwingli, not to be outdone, returned the compliment:

"The devil has made himself master of Luther, to such a degree, as to make one believe he wishes to gain entire possession of him." (113;v.1:463)

"To see him in the midst of his followers, you would believe him to be possessed by a phalanx of devils." (113;v.1:464)

"We do you no injustice when we reproach and condemn you as a worse betrayer and denier of Christ than the ancient heretic Marcion (16)." (50:288)

Oecolampadius was also not without a retort:

"He is puffed up with pride and arrogance, and seduced by Satan." (113;v.1:463)

Zwingli's Church of Zurich wrote of Luther:

"He will not and can not associate himself with those who confess Christ . . . He wrote all his works by the impulse and the dictation of the devil." (113;v.1:464)

At least the insults exhibit some vehemence, perhaps revealing the felt importance of their object. Today, on the other hand, many Protestants are utterly indifferent towards Luther, as if their faith was a product solely of their own invention and ingenuity; oftentimes, such self-professed generic "Christians" eschew even the title of "Protestant."

>>126892869
>No evidence that people followed the words of Christ

I wonder, Christians, if there is any corroborating evidence of Christ even existing, much less what he said verbatim? I ask because sitting in a new Lutheran church recently the pastor made a big deal of the verb tense in a line of scripture. I kind of doubted that what she said Jesus said was not said by Jesus.

Just wondering. Feel free to point me to idiotwebsite.

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>>126892880
Wrong! The fruit of Protestanrism is a bunch of sects that cannot agree with each other

>>126892975
I am waiting for one at the 2nd century

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>>126893058
4. Luther on Bucer

"They think much of themselves, which, indeed, is the cause and wellspring of all heresies . . . Thus Zwingli and Bucer now put forward a new doctrine . . . So dangerous a thing is pride in the clergy." (51;v.6:283/17)

"A gossip . . . a miscreant through and through . . . I trust him not at all, for Paul says (18) `A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid.'" (51;v.6:289/19)
5. Luther on Calvin and Oecolampadius

"Oecolampadius, Calvin . . . and the other heretics have in-deviled, through-deviled, over-deviled, corrupt hearts and lying mouths." (122:448/20)

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>>126892328
Fuck no he wasnt.

>>126893095
You are waiting to find out if Christians chose to live their lives by Christs teachings?
Ok, man. I'll go get the records...oh wait, the Catholics had complete control of Europe and got rid of anything they didn't like.

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>>126888198
They basically try to tell christians what their own fucking religion tells them to do, but they don't know jack shit, and try to act like christianity just means being a fucking "PEACE AND LOVE MAAAAN" hippie or some shit.

>>126893265
>there is no evidence

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>>126893278
Protestant btfo

>>126893342
>Be a group that controls all records
>Kill everyone who disagrees
>Claim nobody thought different than you

>>126881343
Wooow so Melania refuses to wear a niqab/hijab when meeting with the Saudi King but wears whatever the fuck that is??!?!?!?

What a dumb bitch.

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>>126885057
Women covering their heads is specifically for the mass. They don't have to anywhere else, but seeing as they're standing on very hallowed ground I'd say it was a good choice!

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>>126893232
6. Calvin on Luther and Lutherans

"What to think of Luther I know not . . . with his firmness there is mixed up a good deal of obstinacy . . . Nothing can be safe as long as that rage for contention shall agitate us . . . Luther . . . will never be able to join along with us in . . . the pure truth of God. For he has sinned against it not only from vainglory . . . but also from ignorance and the grossest extravagance. For what absurdities he pawned upon us . . . when he said the bread is the very body! . . . a very foul error. What can I say of the partisans of that cause? Do they not romance more wildly than Marcion respecting the body of Christ? . . . Wherefore if you have an influence or authority over Martin, use it . . . that he himself submit to the truth which he is now manifestly attacking . . . Contrive that Luther . . . cease to bear himself so imperiously." (126:46-8/21)

"Luther had done nothing to any purpose . . . people ought not to let themselves be duped by following his steps and being half-papist; it is much better to build a church entirely afresh." (113;v.1:465)

"I am carefully on the watch that Lutheranism gain no ground, nor be introduced into France. The best means . . . for checking the evil would be that the confession written by me . . . should be published." (126:76/22)

>>126893415
>no proof
>MUH conspiracy theory

>>126883346
If she's Catholic, then maybe she still adheres to Vatican 1 rules, where it was respectful for women to wear a bonnet or some other head covering and a modest dress.

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>>126893502


7. Calvin on Zwingli

Historian Philip Hughes tells us that Calvin "abhorred" Zwingli also. (45:229)
8. Calvin on Melanchthon

Calvin had some sort of friendship with Melanchthon (rare among differing Protestant leaders), but wrote harshly of him in letters to others:

"He openly opposes sound doctrine; or . . . cunningly, or at least, with but little manliness, disguises his own opinion . . . The inconstancy of Philip moves both my anger and detestation." (126:52,65/23)
9. Melanchthon on Zwingli

The timid Melanchthon was "manly" enough, however, to launch at least one salvo against Zwingli:

"Zwingli says almost nothing about Christian sanctity. He simply follows the Pelagians, the Papists and the philosophers." (46:261)
10. Bucer on Calvin

Despite theological affinities, Bucer had quite a low opinion of Calvin:

"Calvin is a true mad dog. The man is wicked, and he judges of people according as he loves or hates them." (113;v.1:467)

>>126892469
how does the pope steal from the rich though?

>>126893554
it's not a conspiracy theory that the Catholics killed everyone who disagreed with them. Which shows that there were people who disagreed with them. It's also a fact that they control all the records. It's also a fact that if they released records showing that early Christians followed Christ's words, it would destroy their entire religion.

>>126881343
bringers of death

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>>126893631
11. Luther on Protestant "Heretics"

"Heresiarchs . . . remain obdurate in their own conceit. They allow none to find fault with them and brook no opposition. This is the sin against the Holy Ghost for which there is no forgiveness." (51;v.6:282/24)

"Those are heretics and apostates who follow their own ideas rather than the common tradition of Christendom, who . . . out of pure wantonness, invent new ways and methods." (51;v.6:282-3/25)

Grisar adds:

"In his frame of mind it became at last an impossibility for him to realise that his hostility and intolerance towards `heretics' within his fold could redound on himself." (51;v.6:283)

"We must needs decry the fanatics as damned . . . They actually dare to pick holes in our doctrine; ah, the scoundrelly rabble do a great injury to our Evangel." (51; v.6:289/26)

"I am on the heels of the Sacramentaries (27) and the Anabaptists; . . . I shall challenge them to fight; and I shall trample them all underfoot." (46:86)

Who is right?

>>126893688
>CONSPIRACY THEORY

>>126893830
Christians following Christ, is a conspiracy theory to a Catholic.

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Precedent: The "Hussites" (Will Durant)

The Protestants had learned from the "Hussites", Bohemians who claimed to follow the heretic John Hus, whom Luther hailed as one of his forerunners. After Hus's execution in 1415, zealous ragtag armies:

"Passed up and down Bohemia, Moravia, and Silesia . . . pillaging monasterles, massacring monks, and compelling the population to accept the Four Articles of Prague . . ." (122:169)
4. Luther's Advice to the Princes

"The abbeys are as much your property as the game that runs on your lands. The monasteries . . . are dens of iniquity, which you must root out, if you would have God bless you." (50:295)
5. Sweden: Gustavus Vasa (A.G. Dickens {P})

"In Sweden Gustavus Vasa deprived the Church of all its landed properties . . . The proportion of land held by the crown increased during his reign from 5.5% to 28%: that of the Church from 21% to nil." (121:191)
6. Scotland and England (Hilaire Belloc)

"The great Scottish nobles . . . supported the religious revolution because it gave them the power to loot the Church and the monarchy wholesale." (107:112)

Likewise, the English "Reformation" was perpetrated primarily by means of plunder at the highest levels of government.

>>126893043

I have a neighbor that is vehemently anti-christan, and very convincingly makes the argument that all of Christianity is a fabrication, including that Christ himself never existed.

I look at it from the level that probably Christ did exist, but was as crazy as, well, somebody convinced they were the son of god. So (in agreement with scripture) he NEVER thought he would be allowed by God to die on the cross. (God, why hast thou forsaken me?). After he dies, all his disciples fucking freak out, because the Romans just killed the SON OF GOD without so much as a thunderbolt, when fucking Moses got a whole plague among other things (If you believe that).

So anyway, John or Paul or somebody takes the body, dumps it in an unmarked grave, does a number on Mary and "BEHOLD, CHRIST HAS ARISEN!!!". Then the whole Church is formed by co-opting other pagan religions of the time (including moving Christmas around to another existing pagan holiday), and turning Christianity into just another scam until the fucking Protestants come along and try to ruin it.

Meanwhile it is revise, revise, revise the meaning of scripture as science comes along and slowly BTFO one thing after another.

>>126893929
And yet you can't even offer any shred of evidence for your unicorn sect but spew conspiracy theory

>>126885057
Your info is about 60 years dated, friend.

>>126891881
>every man according as his work shall be.

>every man

not talking about christians

>>126894023
Catholics killed everyone who disagreed with them and controlled all the information about it.
That is 100% reality.

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>>126894005
Erasmus' Disdain of Protestant Plunder

The greatest scholar and man of letters in Europe at this time, Erasmus, who looked with some favor upon the "Reformation" initially, but came to despise it as he saw its fruits, wrote on May l0, 1521, just a few weeks after the Diet of Worms, about those who "covet the wealth of the churchmen." He goes on to say:

"This certainly is a fine turn of affairs, if property is wickedly taken away from priests so that soldiers may make use of it in worse fashion; and the latter squander their own wealth, and sometimes that of others, so that no one benefits." (117:l57)

>>126886587
BRUHHHHH.....

>>126894071
DIDNT know Christians are not human

Because Evil resides there.

Not what Jesus wanted.

>>126882921
kek

>>126894116
Didn't know they didn't just alter the whole bible since they are so powerful

Oh wait they didnt

this brit is a fucking autist

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>>126894116
Meanwhile protestant do the same shit

IV. SYSTEMATIC SUPPRESSION OF CATHOLICISM

1. General Observations

Protestant leaders sought to exterminate Catholicism wherever possible, and exhibited very little tolerance and much philistine ignorance and hatred. Janssen tells us the views of some leading "reformers" on this score:

"Luther was content with the expulsion of the Catholics. Melanchthon was in favour of proceeding against them with corporal penalties . . . Zwingli held that, in case of need, the massacre of bishops and priests was a work commanded by God." (111;v.5:290)
2. Zwingli (Zurich)

Zwingli's Zurich was definitely not a haven of Christian freedom:

"The presence at sermons . . . was enjoined under pain of punishment; all teaching and church worship that deviated from the prescribed regulations was punishable. Even outside the district of Zurich the clergy were not allowed to read Mass or the laity to attend. And it was actually forbidden, `under pain of severe punishment, to keep pictures and images even in private houses' . . . The example of Zurich was followed by other Swiss Cantons." (111;v.5:134-5)

The Mass was abolished in Zurich in 1525 (121:117). How did Zwingli's ideas spread?:

"Their progress was marked by the destruction of churches and the burning of monasteries. The bishops of Constance, Basle, Lausanne and Geneva were forced to abandon their sees." (46:81-2)

>>126894259
>I hate history

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>>126894323
who are you quoting?

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>>126894300


5. Various Protestant Cities and Areas

In 1529 the Council of Strassburg also ordered the breaking in pieces of all remaining altars, images and crosses, and several churches and convents were destroyed (111;v.5:143-4). Similar events transpired also in Frankfurt-am-Main (122:424). At a religious convention at Hamburg in April, 1535 the Lutheran towns of Lubeck, Bremen, Hamburg, Luneburg, Stralsund, Rostock and Wismar all voted to hang Anabaptists and flog Catholics and Zwinglians before banishing them (111;v.5:481). Luther's home territory of Saxony had instituted banishment for Catholics in 1527 (51;v.6:241-2).

"In 1522 a rabble forced its way into the church at Wittenberg, on the doors of which Luther had nailed his theses, destroyed all its altars and statues, and . . . drove out the clergy. In Rotenburg also, in 1525, the figure of Christ was decapitated . . . On the 9th of February, 1529, everything previously revered in the fine old cathedral of Basle, Switzerland, was destroyed . . . Such instances of brutality and fanaticism could be cited by scores." (92:94)

"[In] Constance, on March 10, 1528, the Catholic faith was altogether interdicted . . . by the Council . . . 'There are no rights whatever beyond those laid down in the Gospel as it is now understood' . . . Altars were smashed . . . organs were removed as being works of idolatry . . . church treasures were to be sent to the mint." (111;v.5:146)

>>126881343
Malenia looks fine

>>126894199
Why would they? They just added whatever they wanted to go along with it.

>>126894423
Historians and the reformers themselves

>>126894487
Then your conspiracy fails

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>>126894496
Historians hate history?
weird

>>126894199

loooooooool how many bibles do you think there were around the world? Its like having 1 news paper photoshopped and claiming it is true while there are million other papers

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>>126894448
6. Scotland: John Knox

In Scotland, John Knox and his ilk passed legislation in which:

"It was . . . forbidden to say Mass or to be present at Mass, with the punishment for a first offence of loss of all goods and a flogging; for the second offence, banishment; for the third, death." (45:300)

Knox, like virtually all the Protestant Founders, was persuaded "that all which our adversaries do is diabolical." He rejoiced in that "perfect hatred which the Holy Ghost engenders in the hearts of God's elect against the condemners of His holy statutes" (28). In conflict with these damned opponents (i.e., Catholics) all means were justified - lies, treachery (29), flexible contradictions of policy. (122:610/30)

>>126881343
because they are jews

https://www.ijn.com/is-the-addams-family-kind-of-jewish-maybe/

>>126894005
Do you think that they went to Ethiopia, learned their language, burned their bible, and revised that too?

>>126894589
THAT WAS NOT MY POINT

>>126894539
Not at all. The Catholics used the scriptures as a base to build on. But they added what they want to go along with it.
I'm saying there were Christians who used Christs words without adding anything to it.

>>126894609
Oh guess they couldn't control all the shit

So the conspiracy argument fails

>>126882852
he's a communist

>>126882852
>tfw no nigger toes to suck on

>>126894668
It does because if they are so powerful they could just edit the bible to fit their doctrines

But according to you they didn't

But if they didn't then they also didn't destroy all evidence of so called unicorn sect

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>>126894650
then why did you say it?

>>126894668
They dont.

They ignore and defy basic biblical truths

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>>126894630
remarkable inquisition against Catholic practice:

"It is the duty of the authorities to resist and punish such public blasphemy." (51;v.6:240)

"If the preacher does not make men pious, the goods are no longer his." (51;v.6:244)

"Not only the spiritual but also the secular power must yield to the Evangel, whether cheerfully or otherwise." (51;v.6:245)

In his self-proclaimed righteous infallibility, Luther had decided by 1527 that:

"Men despise the Evangel and insist on being compelled by the law and the sword." (51;v.6:262/31)

"Even though they do not believe, they must nevertheless . . . be driven to the preaching, so that they may at least learn the outward work of obedience." (51;v.6:262/32)

"Although we neither can nor should force anyone into the faith, yet the masses must be held and driven to it in order that they may know what is right or wrong." (51;v.6:263/33)

"It is our custom to affright those who . . . fail to attend the preaching; and to threaten them with banishment and the law . . . In the event of their still proving contumacious, to excommunicate them . . . as if they were heathen." (51;v.6:263/34)

"Although excommunication in popedom has been shamefully abused . . . yet we must not suffer it to fall, but make right use of it, as Christ commanded." (122:424-5)

If I may be excused an irresistible pun at this point: "The Catholic Masses were forced out, while the Catholic masses were forced in" (to Protestant services)!

>>126894794
I DID NOT

>>126894773
Why would they? They didn't have to and it wouldn't make sense to alter the Scriptures. They added their traditions to go along with them
Your trying to connect things that don't connect.

>>126894851
Protestants defy truth and logic

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>>126894888
you gave me a quote and when asked where it came from you said historians

>>126894912
It does. It makes shit so much easier and reduces any risk of renegade priests or whatever

Oh wait, they didn't

So Your whole argumen fails

>>126881343

Melania looks like a thalmor.
Maybe trump is the dovakin.
Pope is ulfric jewcloak.

>>126894918
t. Cultist who doesn't know the Bible

>>126895007
THAT IS THE FACT

>>126895052
>all men will be judged
>christians excluded
PRODDIE exegesis

>>126895033
No they would have to have it "complete" at some point. The easier thing to do would be to leave it alone. And then claim you can add whatever traditions the Church agreed on when issues came up.

>>126892411
I can smell AIDS!

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>>126895071
8. Melanchthon

Melanchthon asked the state to compel the people to attend Protestant services (122:424). Later on, in Saxony (1623), even auricular confession and the Eucharist were made strictly obligatory by law, punishable by banishment. (51;v.6:264)
9. Calvin

Calvin, in Geneva, took religious compulsion to an absurd degree which would make the most zealous Pharisee sick with envy. Suffice it to say that the reality of the Genevan "theocracy" is the farthest thing conceivable from the prevailing myth of Protestantism as the champion of the individual conscience against the vicious tyranny of Rome. The irony is all the more profound when we realize that Calvin was the most influential "reformer" and the "father," one could say, of all Protestant systematic theology and biblical commentary and exegesis.
10. Conclusion (Owen Chadwick {P})

"The Protestant states did not question that teachers of disapproved doctrines should be prevented from preaching. Nor did they question that the state should use laws to encourage churchgoing. In Anglican England and Lutheran Germany, Reformed Holland . . . the citizens were alike liable to penalties if they failed for no good reason to attend the worship of their parish churches." (120:398)

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>>126895071
so the quote
>I hate history
came from historians?

Why become a historian if you hate history?

It makes no sense