Isis/drones/manchester etc

It is in the foundation of their religion that they can kill anyone who does not follow their religion or mocks their prophet.

Since your a libtard idiot who cant grasp the idea that this is a very violent ideology. Best you can do is stay out of politics, never vote. And spend you attentntion elsewhere

>>126811558
It is because the west constantly bombs the shit out of them AND tries to brainwash their kids. If I saw my little girl take off her bhurka and start twerking who knows man.

>>126811558
>drone strike wedding based on shaky intel
>kill a bunch of innocents and kids
>people left alive have nothing left to live for because America just blew up their family
>go on to join extremist groups and help commit attacks
>America bombs another location based on shaky intelligence regarding last guy and his related attack
>rinse and repeat

We've fucked around in their region since the 70's, there's entire generations there who feel like the western world fucked all their shit up.

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>>126811558

These are not acts of a political nature or even a nationalistic one. They are because of a religious ideology. Also two wrongs dont make a right.
saged

>>126812570
This

They hated us before all the bombing and shit but they were at least content with staying in their own shithole corner of the world.

>>126811558
The middle east has been in turmoil long before the US ever existed.

Nice faggoty pic, btw. Really tugging my heartstrings.

>>126811558
>its home grown its not immigrants!

Hypocrisy at every turn.

>>126812346

>attentntion

man, almost a 5 star reply, for that i give 9.5/10

>>126811558
ISIS is the Islamic State In Syria. They want Islamic law, like Iran, to rule the middle east.

>>126811558
it's a stupid argument. we can do whatever the fuck we want, the problem lies within the democrat liberals who want to accept people into our homeland with open arms that we just spent decades fucking over for our own geopolitical interests. we are infinitely more powerful than them and yet we choose to be submissive by letting them come to our literal home after we just spent ~30 years bullying entire generations of them

>>126811558
That picture is awesome. Think how fucking rad it would be if we literally did that to the entire ME. Clearly we didn't drop enough the first time, let's finish this!

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>>126811558
muslims aren't even human

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>>126811558
>all (((WE))) want to do is

>>126812570
>>126812804
They were fucking our shit up for a thousand years. Sorry, not sorry.

>>126812346
You're a fucking moron. This IS the reason, fuckhead! We've been fucking with their sand for nearly a century. Pull your head out of your ads. We fought WITH Muslims against Russia and a Muslim nation was the first to recognize our sovereignty after our constitution was penned. Read a book, retard.

T. Trump voter

>>126811558
>ALL WE WANT TO DO IS
>(((WE)))

Our government doesn't answer to our demands. This bullshit image is like saying that just because some psycho broke into my house and held me at gunpoint, then stole my car and drove it into the house next door, that I'm responsible for the damage. IT WAS MY CAR AFTER ALL. Then the homeowner next door goes insane and starts trying to burn my house down. Now I've been attacked twice. All the more reason to fight back.

Only reason to use impact text is to be quick with your message, if you're throwing down a paragraph may as well make it look decent.

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>>126813508

>>126811558
(((Shadow))) government funds Madrassas in Saudi Arabia to grow extremism in order to destabilize Middle East, justify war on terrorism and put corrupt puppet dictators in place. Multiculturalism is enforced to infiltrate West and put police state in place. Isis are basically mercenaries for (((them)))

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They started it.

>>126813459
>"I killed her parents"
S A V A G E
A
V
A
G
E

God bless America, God bless americans.

>be used as human shield by terrorists
>blame the people shooting at the terrorists rather than the terrorist using you as a shield
>the human shield is also a piece of shit who wants to behead nonbelievers and gays
we should quietly irradiate the entire region to sterilize them

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Premise accepted

With that being the case, I propose we stop bombing immediately and withdraw all armed forces from Muslim lands forever. All Muslims in Christian lands shall be deported thereto immediately, with no entry granted to any Muslim for a period of one hundred (100) years.

Deal?

>>126811558
>>126812570
You're right, we should stop bombing the Middle East for globalist kikes and stop letting unfettered immigration from those places into the West.

I can't tell if you're trying to make a point or what.

>>126811558

THEY HAVE BEEN INVADING EUROPE AND TERRORISTS FOR 1400 YEARS.

OUR FIRST FOREIGN WAR GOOGLE THE BARBARY WAR WAS BECAUSE THEY KEPT DECAPITATING OUR SAILORS..THE SAME AS THEY DO NOW.

>>126811558

They constantly kill each other in their own countries even more....

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>>126811558
More bombs, more bombs, more bombs, more bombs.
Every last one, every last one, every last one.

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>>126811558
>I can't fucking get my head around it

ISIS loves Israel, though.
ISIS has never deliberately attacked Israel (once by accident, which they humbly apologized for) even though they are within shooting distance from Israeli soldiers in Syria.

>>126811558
Seems that we we have to bomb harder

>>126811558
I don't want any of those things, and I don't care whether or not people tangentially related to me wronged them in some way. I just want them gone back to their desert shitholes so they can stop ruining our countries. I don't fucking care about them and I shouldn't be obligated to.

Then why don't dune coons kill politicians and shit instead of little girls? And why do they scream Allahu Akbar when they kill people? But you're right, it has absolutely NOTHING to do with an inferior sand religion

>>126811558
Then why do they kill their own fucking people?
They're fucking barbarians, not noble savages

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>>126813508
We didn't fight you fucking idiot, we backed rebels with weapons and money. Kill yourself


t. "Not all Muslims"

>>126811558
That argument would work if wasn't for 9/11.

>>126811558
If it was about politics they would be blowing up politicians.

>>126811558
Just because our governments make shitty decisions sometimes, that doesn't give you the right to murder innocent people who had nothing to do with those decisions.

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>>126811558
Goodbye ISIS. Your days are numbered.

>>126811558
>blow up active terrorists
>this is bad somehow
>makes more terrorsts
>terror is now our fault
Have they tried deleting their religion? Would solve a whole lotta stuff.

>>126811558
>we are constantly bombing the shit out of them?
Who are "we"? Childs at Ariana Grande show?

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>>126811558
>Why do the infidels hate us?

Well Ahmed, all we do is rant about their way of life and attempt to influence their politicos to cater to our theocratic law, we demand special bennifits and and treatment, we seek to replace their holy places and population trough conversion or outbreeeding, we have been doing this for centuries and have constantly been in a. State of war and invasion with all of our neighbors across 3 continents since the 600's ad.

Oh yeah and we have consistently murderd innocent people by the tens of thousand in western nations by bomb, vehicle, knife and gun for the last 25 years and in some places for over a century

It's almost like we wouldn't hate them if not for constant shit like flying planes into towers and blowing up marathons and raping over 150 women in Germany on New Year's.

It's almost like we would never have had a reason to attack them if those things didn't happen.

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>>126815482
You forgot about raping and enslaving childrens.

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>>126811558

Terrorist sympathizer reported...

[email protected]

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>>126812383
>hate the west so much you rebel against your own country, travel to other countries to destabilize them, kill people who worship the same god as you + practice same religion but are apart of the wrong faction of it, kill fellow mooslims (including women and children).

Also make sweet sensual love to goats.

The god damned US made them do all of that.

>>126815800
Oh yeah and raping and enslaving millions of euros

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>>126813470

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>drone strike their women and children

what about drone striking their men? it should have just said children

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>>126815317
>Who are "we"? Childs at Ariana Grande show?
how is that different from the west bombing children at a school or hospital in order to destabilize their nations and strengthen israel?

everything has a price to pay. /pol/ says "burn the coal, pay the toll" and "with jews, you lose" and are now surprised that they are now paying the toll and losing. There is only one way to solve the problem.

1. Cut all ties with Israel
2. Go after the churches, tax them, phase them out of existence. extra tax for sandnigger religions (islam, judaism ,christianity)
3. Unlock the secrets of free energy and watch as the shitty oil barrons fall
4. Stop interventionist policies completely
5. World peace achieved

Of course they are pissed off because were bombing them, that's why you don't let them poor into your homeland in masses.
Were at war you fucking faggot, when has it ever been accepted to house your enemy during wartime?
God the shills are fucking weak.

>>126811558
nah, islams were murdering as soon as the false prophet figured out the racket.....there was arab on arab slaughter from the on set......the islamic world needs no push from the west as its caught in an evil wind.....

>>126811558
So they hate the liberal Jewish agenda?
Made me think

>>126811558
Yeah that must be it - who can't forget about all the german bombing runs of the last 20 years to justify trucks of peace in berlin.

>>126816227
>the west bombing children at a school or hospital in order to destabilize their nations and strengthen israel?
What movie is that again?

>>126811558
I think it's accurate in a lot of cases and makes the problem very difficult to solve

>>126816227
You will never achieve world peace as long as Jews run the world, and its filled with shitskins.

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>>126811558
>blame us for drones
>it was govt, they won't stop despite protest
great argument.

conversly, saying "the jews did it" isn't us saying every jew is the bad guy, its us saying 100% of the people who did it are jewish.

>conversly saying its islams fault isn't us saying islam is to blame its us saying 100% of the people who did it are islamic.

pleasu understandu.

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>>126811558
Yeah, OP. Cause pouring fire on a burning building is REALLY gonna help put the fire out.

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>>126812570
>(((we)))

>>126812346
But can you grasp the idea that the US foreign policy is an arguably even more violent ideology?

>>126816608
Stoping the funding, arming, training & manipulation/brainwashing of retards to bomb and butcher Christians Shiites and westerners isn't hard, there just won't be any corpses around to gain political points and power from thus, it doesn't stop. Why cure disease when you can make deadlier ones and profit from the treatment

>>126813508
>i do not know dick about their religion
you need to try again
that wasn't a valid response

>>126811558
Look it's the old "the West created every problem in the Middle East" thread.
Hot tip faggot - the Middle East created plenty of it's own fucking problems, and they've had plenty of chances to play nice with the rest of the world.

This is the most colossal victim complex history has ever witnessed.

All modern terrorists abroad hate the West, and America specifically, because of our way of life. A lot of the Afghani's are freedom fighters waging war in their own lands, but you're an idiot if you think every terrorist, or even the majority of them, was created by Western military action in the Middle East. The money we've spent over there is insane - those fuckers literally rely on international aid to even survive. I love it when Libs conveniently forget that to stir the 'muh oil and military-industrial complex' boogeyman horse shit.

>>126811558
"We" don't want any of that shit.

>>126817316
Islamic terrorism wasn't a thing after 2000.

>>126817225
>stopping the funding
>isn't hard
obviously it is, that's the whole root of the problem and there are plenty of rich and powerful people who don't want to see it stopped

>>126811558
>Attacking the west is literally part of the religions birth.

Sage

>>126813020
Don't get too comfy with your halftruth, ameriturd:
The whole ME from Afghanistan to Iraq and Syria is a messed up clusterfuck because of you alone.
>WMD, arabic spring muh
It's incredible how much you were able to fuck up in recent years alone.
Basically one of the very few stable countries is Iran which is probably next on your list.
And all you do is suck it up.
Open your eyes and see your real masters:
The industrial-military complex keeping it cooking.

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>>126815482

>>126811558
This has nothing to do with shredding 8-year-old children to meat pieces by way of nail bombs. You have to be deranged to even assume children have anything to do with all that stuff on the infographic.

>>126817700
Actually, if we just didn't side with them:see Obama IsIs in iraq/syria, it would be a large stride into the right direction. Too bad Barack Hussein Osama was a filthy wahhabist

>>126811558
our mil has to prac app war somewhere

>>126811558
>Drone strike their women and children
What else would you expect?
It's not our fault all the men abandoned their families and ran to Europe.

>>126817619
I meant before 2000.
>>126817700
But for now, buy some sotocks of american gun makers and earn some coins.

>>126811558

STOP #WHITEPHOBIA

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>>126811558
Doesn't matter.
Islam has literally always been a cancer on the planet.

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>>126818195


jej

Islamic countries have been attacking over religion since it started.
This is some doublethink

>>126811558
Yes. Maybe we should just not go into that part of the world anymore.
It is the perpetual war that's described in 1984.

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>>126811558

Muslims are attacking European goyim while the REAL (((culprits))) behind the bombingh of their countries keep getting away with it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOa-EWvDH-0

>>126811558
Well we should just get on with it and wipe them out then.

>>126818260
lol your dumb and don't know any history Islamist have been fucking with people for a long time

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With globalization, and the need for co-operation in order to make money import/export, so began the whole neocon project. Governments generally wanted to install liberal democratic governments that echo their own systems (although there are exceptions) with leaders that would co-operate internationally, the trade links created would make the countries dependent on them, eventually giving superpowers the clout to have power over these countries without the threat of military force. Trouble is that a lot of the muslim world hates other parts of the muslim world and various parts are very extreme. So the more violent stringent authority was all that was keeping it in check. We've tried and failed, but in our failure, have managed to create more terrorist threats, which we then want to deal with to stop them attacking both us and committing atrocities in their own countries. Is just completely backing out a solution? I don't know. We're pretty far in and it's a huge fucking mess either way. Add to that our liberal ways forcing us to accept refugees, and if refugee problems get worse without our intervention, then the same things are going to happen. People on here will say just don't let them in, but that won't happen. If a boat of kids comes over from a country conducting ethnic cleansing for example, are we going to turn them down? I doubt it.

Drone attacks are part and parcel of life in a middle eastern country. Muslims will just have to learn to live with drone attacks.

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>>126812346
Why aren't Muslims attacking south America or Japan or south Korea or Mongolia or Sri Lanka or Zimbabwe or

Oh wait it's because none of these invade their countries you faggot

Trump was just in fucking Saudi Arabia and was given a hero's welcome

Face it, if whites hadn't invaded Iraq there would be no isis.

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>>126811558
>Jews bomb Muslims via their US cucks and blame white people
>Jews commit false-flags and blame the Muslims
Never-ending cycle until we destroy all of their enemies and then they destroy us.

>>126819785
Now watch as whites pretend this post utterly BTFO'ing them doesn't exist

>>126819785
Who doesn't remember the Iraqi - Phillipino war...

>>126819765
wow only almost 2000 attacks a year

truly terrorism was no serious issue before 2000

>>126811558
Protect your own. That's reasoning covers just about everything.

>>126813459
>I killed her parents
kek

>>126820419
Terrorism has spiked dramatically since the invasion of Iraq, fall of Gaddafi, and the onset of the Syrian War

>>126820586
Who was the Iraq war "protecting"

>>126817183
not very good bait

>>126820916
He's actually right. American imperialism has murdered exponentially more innocent people globally than the entire history of Islam

Remember that time whites dropped two nuclear bombs on civilians?

>>126812346
/thread

>>126820419
The name of the file was wrong tho.
The statics of the file was general terrorist attacks, not just islamic.

we have tons of "secular" terrorists attacks in those eary 2000 btw.

>>126813508
>You're a fucking moron. This IS the reason, fuckhead!
they've been doing this since the 7th century. are you actually retarded?

>>126811558
>we

yeah, ok

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>>126812570
What liberals don't realize is that this is a reason to ban Muslims, not import them.

>>126813198
>>126814593
>consider islam violent
>keep giving muslim rebels weapons
Unfortunately, too many fellow Americans arn't smart enough to make the realization that we should both ban Muslims and stop getting involved in the middle east.

>>126821563
>bomb people
>call them inherently violent after you bomb them

>>126811558
Of course thats why. We all know that man. The fucking kikes siced us on them decades ago. The only way to stop terrorists is to leave them alone, let them go back to killing each other (and (((Israelites)))) in their own shitty hovel of a country. Just stop deposing their leaders, leave them alone. Like, other generations didn't have to deal with this bullshit cause we left them alone

>>126821095

We were at war. This is terrorism, not war. What we do in war is permitted by international law. Suicide bombing little kids is not.

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>>126820419
>>126820675
Yep, Libya was a completely retarded move yet no one really talks about it anymore.

>>126821563
>they are inherently violent
yup, the violent genes only activate after America intervenes (more) in their region

>>126811558
it's completely wrong and the cuck mentality. this argument ignores the whole notion of jihad and suicide because it's too scary for the fee fees.

>>126811558
Asians, Indians and South Americans don't have the same problem. There does seem to be something unique about the middle east. Even muslim nations like indonesia don't have the same issue.

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>>126821735
You may lack knowledge in history, but for a majority of the last 1000 years much of the middle east was part of the Ottoman Empire. This Ottoman Empire was just as imperialistic as the west is today.

>>126821953
Murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent people is ok when you're the one doing it LOL

>>126822047
you do realize IS just took control.of a. 200,000 pop city in Philippines, right

>>126822198
Yeah bruh the Iraq war was totally revenge for the sack of Constantinople

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>>126812346
fpbp

>>126822333
You realize that there are hundreds of millions of Muslims native to southeast Asia, right?

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>>126811558
>Why do they hate us? All they want to do is see us convert or die, with the jizya tax being a middle point between the two when they don't have the manpower to kill us all?
Yeah, fuck you shill

>>126822413
I hate faggots like you because you make right-wingers so hardheaded in reaction to your bleeding heart bullshit they don't realize we shouldn't get involved regardless. So go fuck yourself.

>>126819785
why did IS take control of a Philippine city lsst night?

>>126822333
>took a city

Two soldiers and a policeman were killed and 12 wounded amid chaos in Marawi, a predominantly Muslim city of about 200,000 people, where members of the Maute militant group took control of buildings and set fire to a school, a church and a detention facility.

"The government is in full control of the situation and is fully aware that the Maute/ISIS and similar groups have the capability, though limited, to disturb the peace," presidential spokesman Ernesto Abella told a news conference in Moscow.

I dont really know what to believe anymore.

>>126822021
their violent genes were on "stand-by", partially because they knew that we were invincible.

When they have the opportunity, wham. I am not saying that we are entirely innocent, Libya was fucked up. But hey, surely the visigoths or the greeks didn't attack them first.

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>>126811558

>whenever a terrorist attack occurs Muslim apologists come out of the woodwork to explain that Muslims in Muslim countries are the biggest victims of terrorism, so your little bombing doesn't really matter
>however, according to the faggot known as OP, bombers are targeting the West because we're bombing them

Can you people make up your fucking minds?

Also, the guy who bombed the concert was a British citizen, not a guy from the areas currently being bombed in the Middle East.

If we're going by the metric of 'you hurt x group therefore any member of x group, no matter how tangentially attached is justified to retaliate', does that mean that the jews can do whatever the fuck they want to the Palestinians because of what Muslims did to the jews in the past? Or that I, as a white guy, am justified in assaulting blacks on their basis of their massively disproportionate crime rates towards whites?

Really makes me think.

>>126822944
brilliant mind

>>126822047
The middle east is different because of political interests of other countries.
I personally blame the invention of nukes, because they force the existence of proxy wars instead of direct ones, thus creating suffering tl the people who live in strateoc areas like the Middle East.

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>>126811558
>1 post by this ID

>>126811558
hahaha

>>126822944
You ever notice how Irish people in America are excessively Irish? How they even act more Irish than actual Irishmen in Ireland? Well, can't the same shit happen with those of Arab descent?

>>126811558
it's a bullshit argument. They hate you because Quran tells them to hate you.

ISIS sticks to Quran the most. And here's in their own words, from their own magazine Dabiq explanation why they hate you:

"The fact is, even if you were to stop bombing us, imprisoning us, torturing us, vilifying us, and usurping our lands, we would continue to hate you because our primary reason for hating you will not cease to exist until you embrace Islam."

>>126819381
what movie?

>>126818330
These are considered 10s in the Middle East.

>>126819785

Why are they attacking the Philippines, Myanmar, Indonesia, India, Kenya, Nigeria, Mali, etc etc.? Those countries never invaded them.

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>>126819785
So why are muslims attacking Sweden and Africa then?

>>126823215
kek

>>126812383
>>It is because the west constantly bombs the shit out of them AND tries to brainwash their kids.
You don't see Croats or Serbs suicide bombing anyone, and you people broke up our country, got us into the bloodiest war since WW2, stole pretty much all natural resources and infrastructure, installed NATO/US army bases on our land, and created an economically, culturally and politically colonized third world region (with all the NGO/puppet government brainwashing you can imagine) out of an independent country with a fairly decent economy and culture.

>>126822669
Kill yourself faggot. Also take two dick taps on the chin

>>126823267
why dont they attack israel?

>>126822857
You're right, the sensation of superiority of the west is more influential in the middle east than the proxy wars and government replacements happening there.

>>126817128
>every soldier, pilot, sailor, marine who signed on to pull the trigger was jewish

>>126811558
actually fuck it, here's their whole list why they hate you/us from Dabiq:

1. Because you are disbelievers

"We hate you, first and foremost, because you are disbelievers; you reject the oneness of Allah – whether you realize it or not – by making partners for Him in worship, you blaspheme against Him, claiming that He has a son, you fabricate lies against His prophets and messengers, and you indulge in all manner of devilish practices."

2 . Because you are liberal

"We hate you because your secular, liberal societies permit the very things that Allah has prohibited while banning many of the things He has permitted, a matter that doesn’t concern you because you Christian disbelief and paganism 32 separate between religion and state, thereby granting supreme authority to your whims and desires via the legislators you vote into power."

3. Because some of you are atheist

"In the case of the atheist fringe, we hate you and wage war against you because you disbelieve in the existence of your Lord and Creator."

4. For your crimes against Islam
"We hate you for your crimes against Islam and wage war against you to punish you for your transgressions against our religion."

5. For your crimes against Muslims

"We hate you for your crimes against the Muslims; your drones and fighter jets bomb, kill, and maim our people around the world, and your puppets in the usurped lands of the Muslims oppress, torture, and wage war against anyone who calls to the truth."

6. For invading our lands
"We hate you for invading our lands and fight you to repel you and drive you out. As long as there is an inch of territory left for us to reclaim, jihad will continue to be a personal obligation on every single Muslim."

"What’s important to understand here is that although some might argue that your foreign policies are the extent of what drives our hatred, this particular reason for hating you is secondary, hence the reason we addressed it at the end of the above list

>>126811558
What business do they have in Sweden then? Sweden has opposed all that shit and is one of the favorite targets for muslims.

>>126811558
ISIS isnt a response to US bombing. ISIS is the US (well, an operation of theirs) and it is their excuse for bombing.

>>126823096
I could see that. Oil in particular causes interference from several different competing interests.

>>126823746
>As long as there is an inch of territory left for us to reclaim, jihad will continue to be a personal obligation on every single Muslim.

they fucking consider half of Europe islamic territory. Half of China too.

Everyone posting this line '' we've been messing in there sand or country '', needs to remember its not there's.

Islam spread from raping and murdering the christians/zorroastrians that lived there before.

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We created the monster. Ok. We still have to kill it. We're not just going to let them kill us.

Well if they hate us we should definitely not let them in.

wrote this earlier on jewtube with a leftist kid who blamed the attack on western imperialism and xenophobia

>Has interventionism harmed the Middle East more than helped? There's no saying how bad it would be now if the CIA never set foot in Syria or if the Balfour Declaration was never signed. We can speculate but we can't say for certain. I speculate that since Islam has been warring internally for centuries that there would be an event at least similar to Arab Spring and that we would likely have to accept many refugees (and thus Jihadists) because of this. It's an interesting thought experiment but at the end of the day it can't be used in logical argumentation.

>We have to look at reality as it is, not how it would be in our imagination. Islamic countries are very violent places with even Muslim-majority countries considered progressive enacting authoritarian legislature. We have to decide whether or not we want to import groups of people whose ideologies are inherently incompatible with our own.

>>126823180

I swear this is actually a thing. I grew up in Saudi Arabia (inb4 shitskin) in an expat community and people almost act out stereotypes when faced with culture shock or assimilation in order to assert their identities. I've seen it happen many, many times. A guy who might be a completely average guy in the USA suddenly becomes a flag-waving patriot with a slight southern twang after a few months overseas, but reverts back to normal after returning home.

However, if becoming more ingrained in your identity results in you blowing up a bunch of little girls outside a concert, that points to a problem with your identity, namely, Islam. Fundamentalism is only bad if the fundamentals are bad.

>>126811558

While it's true they'd get a lot less recruits if the west didn't play into their muh crusades narrative by going to the middle east to die for Israel constantly, but there'd still be shit loads of muslim terror just from the content of their dogshit religion and culture.

>>126811558
Every time they commit an act of terrorism they prove our military posture correct. Blowing them up is an act of self defense :^)

>>126823474

They try to pretty regularly?

>>126823926
well Quran tells them they should conquer the whole world and strive vs unbelievers until it's done and only Islam is left.

>>126824378
yea, true that

>>126811558
the solution to people retaliating against violence is more violence

i.e. bomb them harder

>>126811558
If that were true, no terrorist group would target Muslims

But the opposite is true in fact: The main victims of ISIS and AlQaeda violence are other Semitic Muslims in the regions they operate.

We get really paranoid every time there's an attack on our soil because our national security generally protects against these types of things.

So it's ridiculous to say that these groups hate the west for raping them back to the Middle Ages because everything they're doing seems antithetical to the notion of helping the Middle Eastern Muslim Community

>>126824300
Well Hamas yeah. But Not IS.

>>126819785
Why are they attacking the Philippines and various African countries that have done nothing to them then?

>>126813508
what book specifically?
this is the classic reddit-tier response from people with little knowlege
>"OMG GO READ A BOOK"

you. have. nothing.

>>126811558
Dude was born in the uk. Parents are immigrants. What are you talking about other countries? ????

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they neither have the moral highground since they will kill other arabs themselves in larger droves using other means.

>>126811558
What's WRONG with western intervention in the Middle East?

>oh no, they deposed my fascist dictator
>oh no, they disrespected my tribal lines. i mean, of course our cultures are completely compatible with everyone else's though :^) but i'm going to make that an issue for this example only
>oh no, they dragged us kicking and screaming to modernity, i want my public stonings and decapitations :(((

What do you fucking WANT?

>>126811558
The argument works fine. The terrorist attacks are stupid though. The middle east should just leave the middle ages and become powerful and use that as leverage to get their seat at the table. A retarded culture only yields retarded results.

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It's more complicated than that.

Watch The Power of Nightmares.

https://thoughtmaybe.com/the-power-of-nightmares/

>>126823474
If ISIS attacks Israel the USA will have carte blanche to land troops in Israel. We do not currently station troops there because it would piss off the Muslim world, but if ISIS gives Israel an excuse then it's open season.

>>126824675
Cuz GLOMPH RRRRRRR TWO SCOOPS

>>126821095
sauce?

You think the arab would keep track of all their own atrocities.

>>126824955
>What's WRONG with western intervention in the Middle East?
the immigration that follows the intervention

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>>126825062
>The middle east should just leave the middle ages and become powerful and use that as leverage to get their seat at the table.

This is why the US and Israel want to destroy Iran.

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>>126824570
>but not (((IS)))
I wonder why

>>126811558
Mostly true for ISIS.

The leaders usually don't care about ideology, they're in for power. Many of them were Baathists serving Saddam. The ISIS fighters are a mix: Most of them joined in because of that and the fact they had nothing better to do (most are failed students and former criminals). There is also the feeling that they hate the West way of life. Of course, if they also hated degeneracy, South America would be attacked by ISIS.

Al Qaeda is different and is far more ideologically into being a reaction of Western foreign policy. Read Bin Laden's writings. They clearly indicate a hate of US foreign policy.

Remember the terrorist attacks are only since the 90s, especially since 2001 till today. That's only about 16 to 21 years of terrorism by people like ISI and Al Qaeda. Yet groups attributed to similarideologies have existed for over a century.

>>126824944
well in a fucked way they do. You see god himself tells you in Quran that if you read his words you're expected to accept them and that those that read his words and reject them are even worse then those that didn't get the chance to read them. See, those that didn't have the chance to read them are not so bad if they transgress, since they don't know commands, but those that do know them, are terrible.

So since ISIS believes they're good minions of god and aren't transgressing, they do believe they have a moral ground over non believers and those that transgressed.

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>>126824955
>What's WRONG with western intervention in the Middle East?

The West doesn't have any idea of what they are doing in the Middle East. You are only creating more chaos, promoting Islamic extremist by being allied with Saudi Arabia and Israel, and creating more refugee waves.

>>126825649
We have a lot of persians in my city. They fled with the shah. They have a way better culture than the other middle eastern countries.

>>126823267
Those are conflicts of separation and have been largely influenced by groups like AQ which tried to connect globally. The fact of the matter is the concentration of ISIS and AQ efforts are against the West precisely because of its foreign policy which also feeds its recruitment.

Switzerland isn't getting bombed for the same reason: It's not involved in Western foreign policy.

>>126824199
You're a retard. Saudi Arabia doesn't try to assimilate. In fact, many expacts are put into compounds for that reason.

>>126825177
Altho your answer seem coherent. Is more simple than that:
>>126825866
>>126826005

>>126825649
That's hilarious given that SA is trying to pump their research with KAUST (King Abdullah University of Science and Technology), by offering huge salaries to anyone who will come there. But ... fail.

>>126812346

>this reply is not ironical
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQCU36pkH7c

>>126826379
Apparently if you move there as a westerner, you get to stay on a special campus for kuffirs, where your wife is allowed to walk around without hijab. But you're basically in a jail.

>>126826110

Persians are historically more advanced and civilized than the cultures surrounding them. If you let them go their natural course they will become a world power once again.

So naturally (((they))) want to stop that.

>>126822944
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>>126822944
>>126822944

HE WAS A "REFUGEE" FROM THE GADHAFI DAYS YOU FAGGOT

Because the Quran is filled with verses encouraging hatred of nonbelievers and the need for jihad.

Moderate Muslims twist the verses to sound less violent, but all you need to do is read the Quran for yourself, and look at Mohammed's life to see that ISIS is simply following in his footsteps and doing what he commanded his early followers to do

>>126813502
>They were fucking our shit up for a thousand years

What

>>126826120
When the Muslims invaded Europe (any of the times prior to modern) was it because of their foreign policy too? lmao shut the fuck up you retarded fucking historically illiterate leaf

>>126825062
>leave middle ages
>what are gunpowder empires
The Middle East left the middle ages long ago.

>>126826512

John Dolan often talks about the time he lived in Saudi Arabia. It's literally hellish unless you are one of the pampered nationals.

https://www.nsfwcorp.com/dispatch/the-dumbest-thing-i-ve-ever-read-saudi-arabia-as-t/

>>126826523
>Gaddaffi was fucking the Islamic terrorists in libya right in the ass
>Bombers parents flee to Britain
ergo:they support Islamic terrorism.
This isn't hard, kohai.

>>126826870
>The Middle East left the middle ages long ago.

Not really.

>>126826814
And Byzantines was in the Middle East which were never theirs to begin with, from a native argument, before any invasions from Arabs to Europe.

Your erroneous strawman only indicates how retarded you are. We're talking about how some insurgent factions behave today, dumbass.

>>126816643
You will never achieve world peace period.

>>126827117
It says a lot about Europeans not being able to defeat empires like Safavid (in case of Portuguese) or Ottoman if during the 16th to 19th century the region was in the middle ages.

Heck, Barbary Pirates doing well against Europeans would be impossible if the region was "middle ages".

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>>126826984

Apparently the UK intelligence services knew he was radicalized and did nothing about it. Probably expected him to go to Syria to cause trouble there.

>>126813508
>Muslims steal and abuse Christian land and people for 1000+ years
>Christians take back a tiny little piece
>Muslims chimp the fuck out and start blowing up
Islam is pure evil. There is no counterargument.

>>126826120
Switzerland isn't being bombed because there are no concentrated areas of muslims, and the government takes a tough line against soft islamification.

Also, swiss citizens tend to have guns and immigrants don't.

>>126822246
But that wasn't the argument you fucking retard.

>>126824559
That's because they are seen as traitors, one reason of their treason is allying with the West.

Of course they'd attack people who they see as being traitors. Not to forget there is also the problem of Shias being hated.

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>>126811558
All right,all right! But apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system, and public health, what has the west ever done for us?

>>126811558
if that was the case it'd be america getting suicide attacks, not sweden and france.


Muslims have been shit since long before drone technology, it's cute how effectively they play the chicken or the egg card against our more weak minded people.

islam has been at war with the christian/free world for about a thousand years now, it's probably time to acknowledge it and defend ourselves.

if this was all strictly in response to our activities in the middle east you would:
A. see america and israel more frequently targeted, as opposed to just europe and the middle east.
B. kind of a redundant statement but for every 1 terrorist attack here there are like a thousand in the country they originated from.
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=Last30

>>126812570
again, america is the one western country that hasnt been very effectively targeted, there was the nightclub shooting and the boston marathon, one thing that really plays in our favor is our distrust of muslims, they never really get the chances in the states they would in europe.
what's always alot of fun is when they try to play the racial profiling card in the states usually a black american or mexican american will be like "no, no, we're different too, you're just crap"

>>126827910
They brought peace?

>>126824955
>don't like intervention and cultural change in the West
>doesn't like migrants coming in to Europe which would lead to "culture loss"
>whines about wanting to do exactly just to to the Mid East

Looks like the whole accusation against Jews is a projection. Taste your own medicine.

>>126811558
>boo hoo the west is so big and scary

I dont see them bombing hospitals.

Just liberals and fags. Wake up. They're allies.

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>>126827910
>he would prefer comfort over an environment that facilitates the growth of the heroic spirit in man

Truly Niezche's Last Man

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>>126827557

The Ottoman Empire was not a modern empire but it wasn't middle-ages tier either.

The problem is that when the Ottomans collapsed it left avoid that was left with monarchs and dictators. And many of the competent leaders were overthrown by the CIA:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Mosaddegh

>>126827239
If you can't see the parallels there's not hope for you. You're so mentally cucked you cannot even see what is right in front of your face. I don't doubt you have the intellect to discern it, just lack the courage to confront it. Islam is, and always has been, at it's foundation a cult whose goal it is to subjugate the world.

As long as Islam exists it will be a threat to European people and their interests. If they perceive us to be weak, they strike and given time they will attempt to conquer. While I admire the audacity of your plan to let a death cult that is rich from oil money accumulate wealth, arms and military technology I'd like to know how you see this going? lel

>>126827910
Middle easterners don't understand generosity, they literally view it as they've outsmarted us into paying tribute.

Financial and food aid was the first biggest mistake. If the western world has done anything really wrong, that should be our biggest regret.

>>126823746
But they don't attack the Zionist entity. Zionists literally use artillery against children on the beach, and ISIS doesn't even complain. Actually they recently apologized to the Zionist after an errant round landed in Ziostan. Shouldn't Isis focus more on the kike's outpost, rather than "crusaders"?

>>126827239
arab muslims aren't native to vast swathes of central asia and the levant either.

>>126811558
>Muslims droned my village wedding party
>I think I will move to their country and conquer it with christianity and cultural parisitism.

>>126813508
t. abdul

>>126811558
I don't care why or what they think. We need to exterminate them.

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>>126827910

The Islamic world had all of those back when the Europeans were eating dirt in the Middle Ages.

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>>126811558

To create, sometimes, one must first destroy...

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>>126828266
To add on, Islam embodies a masculine spirit. It's cultures are notoriously misogynistic as a result. This means men in these cultures are encouraged to take upon power and hold it over others.

So long as Islam as we know it today is a staple of these communities (which history shows us it will be), Islam will always remain an existential threat to Western Civilization.

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>>126828444

ISIS is nothing but a tool of Israel.

>>126813502
>We shouldn't be held accountable for what our ancestors did to blacks and other other "lesser" people for hundreds of years.
>We should bomb these muslims because they pushed our shit in for maybe 50 to 100 years.
Never change pol.

>>126811558
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXS3vW47mOE

Relevant

>>126811558
Hey, do you know the name of the most bombed country in the world?

It's Laos.

How many Laotian terror attacks have you heard of?

Its not some kind of revenge. They just hate us.

>>126827760
Brazil has lots of Mid Easterners, not just Christians but also Muslims. In fact about the same percentage as America. Yet no terror attack from them.

>no concentrated area in Brazil
That is false.
>>126828249
It's not like there is nothing between modern and middle ages.

>The problem is that when the Ottomans collapsed it left avoid that was left with monarchs and dictators. And many of the competent leaders were overthrown by the CIA:

It doesn't matter if the collapse lead to deaths or not. West should have fucked off from the region instead of trying to take advantage of it or "fixing it" (which is bullshit as no country does things outside its self interests). CIA coup isn't even that bad. The Western involvement in Lebanon during the civil war and the Gulf war were far worse in terms of blowback. Of course the war in Iraq is even worse.

Does West pulling out mean the Mid East will be a peace? No. But there would be far less reason to hit the West.

But of course let the West, particularly America, keep wasting money in the Mid East. China just wrecked America with its new economic policy and Russia is going to hit back at NATO expansion. Heck, even a NATO member like Turkey is moving to Russia because Western countries don't even treat their friends properly...

>>126828818

So you hate Islam because it's masculine spirit and support Western civilization because it's feminine and pussified.

And then you expect to win a war against them.

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>>126811558
>I punch you in the name of Allah and declare I will keep punching you until you die.
.
>You punch me back because fuck that.

OMG YOU PUNCHED ME! SEE! LOOK AT WHO THE BAD GUY IS!

cool logic

>>126812701
Its not like people have used religion for a political agenda before

>>126828844

Now the dark side of it, is that the attack on Manchester had their consent? or are did they.. moved bythemselves ?

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>>126829063
United States vs Islam. Yeah it wouldn't be much of a competition for the United States, that 100% correct Juan.

>>126828660
Give me a fucking break!
Islam didn't invent jack shit. It just stole smart people from nearby civilizations and buggered up any advantage they brought with them over the next couple of generations (unlike just about any other barbarian conquerors you can think of).
And Europeans weren't eating dirt, you mung. It was a time of gradual scientific advance and prosperity. How else do you think we financed all those crusades from a thousand miles away?
The fucking nerve of you people...

>>126829037
>CIA coup isn't even that bad.

The CIA coup put the Shah in power and eventually led to the rise of the Ayatollahs.

>Does West pulling out mean the Mid East will be a peace? No. But there would be far less reason to hit the West.

If the West helped the Middle East rather than destroy it then many people would be grateful.

>>126811558
I hate the west for the same reasons the muslims hate the west. Degenerate shit.

I hate muslims for their different beliefs that are incompatible with mine and I think we should not co-exist in the same country. I will not have my homeland filled with mosques and people who will eventually want their ways and laws to be the law of the land.

Blacks I hate because they are violent, dumb and ugly. One of the most populous continents with the least to show for. No scientific progress or breakthroughs, filled with inferior sub-species that breed like rabbits. We could fix it all by stopping all aid to Africa. Let them starve.

Asians are polluting retards who lack empathy.

>>126829037
>It doesn't matter if the collapse lead to deaths or not. West should have fucked off from the region instead of trying to take advantage of it or "fixing it"
the west should've just murdered them when they had the chance.

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>>126825649
You literally have no idea how cucked you are thinking Iran is somehow scientifically significant in any possible way. The graph you show has no meaning and your source is a fabrication. On the other hand who would want to have a seat at this table...

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>>126829307
>Now the dark side of it, is that the attack on Manchester had their consent?

Maybe.

Remember the recent leak that the media was screaming about? One of the things to come out was that Israel had "spies" inside ISIS.

>>126829063
I'm not hating Islam for its masculine spirit, I simply understand what it is. The West isn't of a feminine nature but weak and currently emasculated by parasitic forces within.

Western civilization and Islamic culture are both two males vying for dominance, to capitulate would mean the complete submission of ideaology and devastation of spirit. We will always be at odds with the Islamic world for this reason.

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ISIS, Al Qaeda, etc are just the Alt-Right of the Middle East, who now do international strikes now and then, but pretty much still mostly local. Bands of socially alienated lower class males who are failures in life buying into extremist ideologies to use as a psychological crutch against their personal failures. They are the losers of society who want to blame their failures on secret plots by globalist jews out to destroy their special culture and trick women into rejecting them and everything would totally be better if everything went back to the way some old guy told them a story about when women knew their place and every man was a sheik. Just as how the Alt-Right thinks the same thing. The globalist jews are tricking girls into getting blacked and destroying the sanctity of special white culture and if only Sheik Trump is trusted 100% and allowed to be as crooked as he wants, he'll restore the good old days where coal miners have 10 bedroom homes and 5 cars. Useful idiots....Useful beta manchild bitch snowflake sociopath idiots.

The men at the top who lead the terrorist groups, fund them, etc are just rich oligarchs for whom terrorism is a business tool. A way of creating economically advantageous situations by manipulating their lower class losers to be tools they were born to be. Most terrorism is orchestrated by Saudi Arabia's royal family. Notice how its nearly always Saudi Arabia's regional economic rivals such as Iraq, Iran, Syria, etc who get struck with terrorist insurgencies, taking those rivals oil or other products off the market, making Saudi Arabia richer and regionally more powerful. In the West, men like Trump and other right wing sociopath oligarchs manipulate trailer trash to commit acts of domestic terrorism for the same reasons. Create an environment that allows them to be as crooked as they want.

ISIS...Alt-Right...Flip sides of the same conservative coin....cucked manchildren betas being led around by international oligarch criminals.

>>126813508
9/10 bait, you almost had me believing that you were literally retarded enough to just overlook hundreds of years of Muslims invading Europe. Raping and pillaging the countryside as they went, the only 'relief' to convert to their religion, or pay outrageous taxes(and that only applies if you are following one of the other flavors of sand people religion, pagans just get the sword).

There can be no lasting peace with Islam and it's backwards followers. For the same reason there can never be a lasting peace between a Jew and a non Jew. The central tenet of both religions is that they are chosen by god, and non-believers are barely better than cattle.

The world would be a better place if Russia and the US lowered their respective nuclear stockpiles by seeing how much of the cesspool known as the middle east can be covered by nuclear fireballs.(AFTER we deport every Muslim and Jew back to their precious holy land).

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>>126829335

Then why aren't you winning? Why is Trump bowing down to the king of Saudi Arabia?

>>126811558
M8, Muslims have been at war with just about everyone for centuries. They're either fighting themselves, Hindus, Christians, Buddhists or just the local camel salesman. When they're not at Jihad they're either fucking goats or their cousins and stoning women for adultery. If we didn't bomb them you would be more than likely looking at another attempted Europe Caliphate by now, as it stands we're getting the soft attempt.

>>126829610
>Israel, literally embedded with terrorist organization. News.

>>126828453
Levant was always Semitic. And Arabs have had presence in desert of Levant for a long time. They are not present in Central Asia anyway.
>>126828266
>>126828818
There is no parallel, you're desperate for an argument.

Christianity successfully decimated South American cultures and religions. Eliminated all ancient religions of Europe. All of them. And severly reduced North American ones.

Meanwhile, the Middle East, despite ISIS fuckery, is still very diverse. There's a country that almost has a Christian majority and Christians still exist in significant proportions. Jews also existed until recently due to a modern conflict. Heck, even Zoroastrianism exists there.

Europe is as scourge. Westernization itself is decimating countless cultures in the world today. Everyone dresses the same and few practices local cultures. Not to mention the SJW mentality will kill off further societies that Westernization has damaged to an extent.

I'm not an ISIS sympathizer. I want them to all die. But I also don't feel sympathy for the idiots that put fuel into the fire.

Western civilization has been an existential threat to many cultures across the world and to its own. At the height of Western culture (19th century), a Western man would weep at the shit that today's West is doing to itself. Forget about the migrants, the liberalism of today is destroying Western tradition on its own. This is evident of trajectory of the West which is to destroy everything else. It does create as well but in culture is hasn't done that in a long time.

>>126811558
>1 post by this id

>>126828906
This. So which is it? Can white people be shamed for "le ebil slavery & nazism" now too?

>>126829867
Because Trump is a good goy, and the house of Saud is Israel's puppet. Only makes sense that he would bow to his true master's pawn.

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>>126829349
>Islam didn't invent jack shit.

The Abbasid Caliphate actually made a lot of progress in science and technology. Although much of it was the influence from Persia.

>It was a time of gradual scientific advance and prosperity

Europe was shit after the Roman Empire collapsed thanks to the barbarians who were in charge during the Middle Ages. It took a long time for them to recover.

The crusades were an embarrassment. It wasn't until the Spaniards beat the Moors that the Europeans recovered their pride.

>>126812701
>two wrongs dont make a right.
You can always hear this coming from hypocrite who committed the first wrong & will keep commiting the first wrong over & over again.

>>126811558
How does that explain the Phillipines? They have terror attacks all the time, ISIS recently just seized a town there. The Philippines never bombed the shit out of the middle east.

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>>126829867
Listen Juan, If the United States and friends (NATO) felt threatened in any real way there would not be an occupation ala Iraq. "The Islamic World" would get the same treatment Germany got in WW2.

You just don't seem to understand the difference in power here.

Here let me educate you.

>>126826761
it's not the same thing though
whites have changed over time whereas muslims have not; islam hasn't changed since the 1500's.

>>126830029
semetic doesn't just mean arab, you dumb muhammadian fuckwit. and the spread of islam wiped out many indigenous religions and cultures in the region, not to mention islam has been responsible for some of the worst atrocities in human history.

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>>126830029
Dominance, my friend, is the name of the game.

Don't hate the player; hate the game.

>>126829394
>>126829394
>The CIA coup put the Shah in power and eventually led to the rise of the Ayatollahs.
I'm not saying the CIA coup was not bad, rather it was not the worse intervention policy.

>If the West helped the Middle East rather than destroy it then many people would be grateful.
No, the West helping means imposing its culture. Only trade should be the norm between nations. Nothing else. There is no "Humanity". There should be no "One world Order". Globalism has its flaws. The West ought better to be the West instead of trying to make everyone else into its image.

>>126811558
Just who is ((((((((((((((( us ))))))))))))))))?

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>>126829770

Nah the West has already been completely feminized. When a culture becomes dominant by a female spirit there is no turning back.

>>126830692
Trump won, friend, and a resounding victory it was.

The Spirit of Mascluninity has been bulstered in the hearts of many.

>>126830318

You already feel threatened and you do nothing about it. Your spirit is weak and all the fancy hardware in the world isn't gonna change that.

>>126830532
This. Who are we to bring "Democracy" to desert tribes? Trade should be carried out at the tip of a spear, the savage kept at arms length. Let them have their shitty desert kingdoms full of nothing.

>>126830476
Of course Semitic doesn't mean Arab, you retard. It also doesn't mean European. Semites are closer to each other than European. That means their conflict or presence in each other's land has nothing to do with vermin like you.

>the spread of islam wiped out many indigenous religions and cultures in the region,
Some. But still much less than the West has done, even before the 15th century.


Until you learn that worshipping a Semite doesn't entitle you to the Middle East, that the pearls of that region aren't yours and never would be and that your people should not exist outside of European borders, there will always be conflict.

>>126830029
Most of your complaints can be traced to liberalism/progressiveism(or whatever label the marxist Jews will appropriate for their purposes in the future).

Colonialism was a net benefit for every people that it touched. Africans especially benefited, right up until the point their benefactors left, and they went back to living in mud huts and cannibalizing albinos to consume their magical powers.

Outside of Far Eastern Civilizations, it's a stretch to even consider most of the 'cultures' around the world to even be human. North and south america both had bountiful opportunity to advance as a society, untouched for over a thousand years. Instead of advancing, they got stuck as a feudal society following superstitions. Sub saharan Africa didn't even make it to being a feudal society, literally a bunch of subhumans roaming around.

As a species, our best bet at long term survival is NOT to foster this bullshit notion of muh multiple societies. We either come together as one culture (and purge elements that are not in line with our society's values), or we get to experience the fun of some sand nigger leveraging future tech for terrorism.

The human race will /end/, the first time Achmed manages to redirect an asteroid toward earth. First time they create a plague that can not be cured. or hell, grey goo our planet for Allah's pleasure.

>>126811558
Is West responsible for all the shit happening in the East? Most likely.
But riddle me this: why the FUCK does our government allow enemies INSIDE our land?

>>126830522
Well today liberal dogma puts one face and says something else. It's like calling feminism for its bullshit: It's not about fairness but chaos.

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>>126830893
>Trump won, friend, and a resounding victory it was.

And?

>>126829794
This is of course, absolute nonsense based on your own warped view and contradicted by the available evidence. The best predictor for extremist sympathies and actions is affluence and education.

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0090718

Although, you may be right about there being similarities in some respects. Much of the alt-right is composed of upper to middle class people that have competed higher education.

But continue with your leftist diatribe of lies and drivel. :^)

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>>126830914
Juan. The United States is not threatened existentially by a few ragheads blowing up people.

It's a mild nuisance for the absolute behemoth that is the United States. Sure it annoys the United States and friends but we are not existentially threatened.

IF the "muslim world" actually managed to make the white man feel threatened on an existential level... Well let's just say it doesn't end well for the "Islamic World" Juan. Not well at all.

Can't blame them, I would do the same

>>126830532
>>126830917
>Implying this shitstorm is not fueled by trading interests and resurces control.

>>126831457
>IF the "muslim world" actually managed to make the white man feel threatened on an existential level

That's the thing you are not getting.

The white man is dead already.

>>126830986
>liberalism/progressiveism(or whatever label the marxist Jews will appropriate for their purposes in the future).

Oh yes, blaming the Jews as always! It doesn't matter if Jews are behind it or not, Cultural Marxism is very much a Western thing and is core to the modern West.

>Colonialism was a net benefit for every people that it touched
Cultural destruction trumps everything else you genocidal maniac.

>Outside of Far Eastern Civilizations, it's a stretch to even consider most of the 'cultures' around the world to even be human. North and south america both had bountiful opportunity to advance as a society, untouched for over a thousand years. Instead of advancing, they got stuck as a feudal society following superstitions. Sub saharan Africa didn't even make it to being a feudal society, literally a bunch of subhumans roaming around.

Of course you'd say they are subhuman, it's the only way to justify your subhuman activities: by projecting your sickness. Your behavior can never ever be justified unless you completely assume the other is absolutely undeserving of anything. Westerners are the most incompatible with everyone else.

>As a species, our best bet at long term survival is NOT to foster this bullshit notion of muh multiple societies.

A short fullfilling life is better than one of a slave. And there ought not to be any big community as society: diversity should be respected. Let the West remain as the degenerate cesspool that it is and let others remain as they are. If they change, that's on them.

>not in line with our society's values

What values? You have none. And you have no culture either.

>>126830933
"semite" is a linguistic classification much like indo-european and is not solely tied to race.

>Some. But still much less than the West has done, even before the 15th century.
not in the region.

>that the pearls of that region aren't yours and never would be and that your people should not exist outside of European borders, there will always be conflict.
great advice, such a shame no one applied that same logic to the arabs. it would've prevented the suffering of hundreds of millions of people around the world.
you and your ilk deserve no sympathy, same with the western apologists who enable their barbarism.

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>>126831736
The white man is busy controlling the world. Don't make us focus that attention on (you).

>>126811558
ISIS got all their equipment from the countries you mentioned and gets support from Israel too. Pretty flimsy hypothesis desu.

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>>126831924
>The (((white man))) is busy controlling the world

Well of course.

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>>126832188
Some education Juan. Read it and learn something about how the world actually works.

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Look. It's not a popular answer these days to say, "The US is the most powerful nation!" There are a LOT of people who (for varying reasons, many of which are respectable) want this to not be true. But wanting a thing doesn't mean that it's true. Ideology may blind us. And whether you like the US or not, it is the most powerful nation and will be the most powerful nation for a while to come, most of us will be dead when the time comes that it isn't (if ever) and even then —if that happens— it will only be missing that spot by a small margin.

This is because the US isn't just the US. Again, I know it's fun to talk about how dumb the US is. It almost falls into that George W. Bush category of disliking a thing so much, that it allows us to say whatever pejorative we want, without regard for intellectual honesty on the matter. But the US ain't dumb. It inherited hegemony from the British Empire and continued that legacy and built a network of incredibly powerful alliances that will not suddenly go away the moment China surpasses the US in general potential.

And that's the really important thing to remember, is in understanding what "power" means. I don't deal in predicting the future, but it's pretty obvious that China will continue to grow economically for a generation. It isn't just economic size (the US is losing that status in a few years). China's economy will be bigger NOT because of some magic number, but because of 1.3 billion people multiplied by a really, REALLY low GDP per capita. And that's the thing, how wealthy will the Chinese people get?
>> more coming.

>>126830274
Most "Arab inventions" was, as now, a bunch of Europeans imported to do the inventing for them. That Muslims now get the credit is baffling, unless you take into account how cucked higher education has become.
>>126831769
Kek I knew it. You're a fucking sandnigger of some sort (or a white leftist with autism and stockholm syndrome.) Go back to your sand filled shithole you ingrate.

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>>126832188
But most reasonable estimates point out that there is a dangerous point in economies that are really, REALLY tricky to navigate. There's a "glass ceiling" that many countries discover where the high expectations of earnings prevent businesses from investing a lot in their country because it was precisely the low wages those companies were after. This doesn't mean nations can't get there. Spain, Italy, Singapore, Taiwan, South Korea and others have crossed that "glass ceiling" where they moved into fully industrialized economies with nice high per capita incomes.

Even supposing a GDP of about $25.5t and a per capita of $18,000 [in 2015 dollars] per year by 2050 with 1.4 billion people, that's only about 15% larger than the US economy in adjusted dollars, given an American GDP of about $22t and a per capita of about $55,000 [in 2015 dollars]. And that's just economics.

But Chinese citizens aren't content. Why should they be? Just like every other people on Earth, they'll demand more *stuff* as they get a taste for that stuff. This will push the Chinese government to reinvest a LOT of its surplus wealth into the very things that make the first world, the first world. That costs a LOT of money (just ask the friggin first world!). This means that all the supposed wealth to build hegemony won't be as prevalent as many people predict.

That said, it's impossible to believe that China won't be spending at least the same as the US on military affairs. But even then, the US has a large network of alliances, including the Philippines, South Korea, Japan and Australia in Asia and more loosely, Taiwan and believe it or not a very skittish Vietnam -- all of whom (for their own reasons) aren't too thrilled about the superpower at their doorstep.

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>>126832188
This means that the US isn't just the US. Right now and for the foreseeable future, the US is the most powerful nation on the planet. Beyond her borders, there's NATO and the collection of nations in East Asia who aren't going away in the next two generations. These nations --despite what people think-- haven't suddenly gone poopoo on the US, but rather have seen the value in the American hegemony in how they can skimp on defense and still have the biggest kid on the block to back them up when push comes to shove. That dependence on American hegemony buys the US a LOT of global influence.

That isn't going to end any time soon.

>>126829794
>cucked manchildren betas being led around by international oligarch criminals
So, liberals? International oligarch criminals have been brutally suppressing anything-right for decades. ISIS, like Anti-fa, gets preferential treatment and monetary support from the international establishment.

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>>126832494
>>126832557
>>126832610

Calm down your autism please.

>>126831921
>"semite" is a linguistic classification much like indo-european
No. The equivalent of Indo European is Afro Asiatic. Semitic is like Germanic. It's not necessarily a race but it is also akin to likewise group of close ethnicities. Of course Ahskenazi fucks that up out of the equation but they are a more modern element.

And most semites have high proportions of J1 haplogroup, which indicates genetic difference on that level at the very least. This is different from North Africans, modern Turks and Iranians.

There are also many cultural acts that ancient semites have done before that Arabs still do: like veiling which was started and enforced by Ancient Assyrians).

>not in the region.
Actually it has. Hellenization after Alexander's conquest was very damaging to ancient cultures. Anyway, this is a global comparison. The fact that Muslims preserved of the Mid East more than European Christians did of Europe, speaks volume.

>to the arabs.
>. it would've prevented the suffering of hundreds of millions of people around the world.
It wasn't Arabs who started atrocities in WW1 or WW2 (which alone caused millions of deaths.). That was Europeans and Turks. It wasn't Arabs who caused the many deaths by state atheists (that was people who inherited Western ideology known as Marxism). It wasn't Arabs who killed millions in South America, that was Spaniards.

The Arab slave trade was bad. The Roman and European 19th century slave trade was worse.

There is no comparison with your barbarity and hunger for blood.

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>>126832188
Now that you know a bit more about how the world works... Consider this. The scenario above talks about China not the "muslim world". The "muslim world" doesn't even register as a threat.

>>126811558
>>126811558
>>126811558
Alright, let me lay out a theory.

I fundamentally agree with the principle that terrorism is a response to western encroachment on the Islamic countries / faith / region of the world. These ideas are articulated in extreme detail in a book called blowback, written by analysts for the FED back in the 08' years. I am not really going to discuss this part, it's whatever at this point and whether or not you agree isn't a big deal to the following point


We fundamentally, as a western society, have our boot firmly on the neck of the middle east. This area has the highest volume of military action of all western countries. 95% of operational ordinance is dropped in this region. We. Hold. These. Fuckers. To. The. Ground.

But if the day every came where we lifted our heel even an inch, they would slash our throat. Just think about what would happen if the prison guards turned off all the locks on the doors. It's like that but on a national scale.

The massive amounts of killing put us in this place, but if we slowed the killing down, it would only get worse. Groups like ISIS would fester unfettered, a bad problem would be worse.

There are no good options.

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>>126832517
If you need a safe space so much with a lots of bad history, go to tumblr. I'm sure you'll feel at home with the WE WUZers.

>>126811558
There is nothing to think about burger king. You cannot rationalise the thoughts of brainwashed maniacs. The left always tries to rationalise their thought process and look stupid defending the most vile ideology in the world. Islam is the cancer to the world. There is no other way around. Either the Muslims abandon Islam, or they get two bullets, one in between the eyes, and one on their genitals, all while our girls publicly shame them by whipping them in town squares

>>126828444
well there can be bunch of reasons for it really.
1. Tactical - they know they can't handle them yet and quran does give advices like: "but when you have upper hand strike" .
2. Maybe they want to solve the transgression in the muslim world first and meanwhile terrorize and show how weak the west is and gain recruits from it? I mean if they blow themselves up in Israel they aren't getting recruits? Haven't really heard Israel complain their muslim population is joining ISIS.
3. Jews sort of aren't fighting them and they aren't fighting them and there are options and advices for such cases in Quran.

I mean... they aren't really idiots. They might be fucking psihopatic barbarians by our standards but they have clear plans.

I don't know. If you would be leading in ISIS and you intend to fuck up everyone around you, would you go and poke Israel first? The only country in the region that actually knows how to fight and managed to fuck up combined militaries of neighbours?

I sort of feel like Israel and ISIS both prefer this situation. Israel likes it cause ISIS is fucking up Syria (and Israel doesn't like Assad cause he had a secret nuke programe which they bombed), Iraq and tries to fuck up other muslims for them and does the dirty job and probably plan to fuck them up after they're satisfied, ISIS likes it that Israel isn't messing into it and are trying to stretch their territory and gain power and probably intend to strike it when they gain the upper hand.

They aren't really cooperating, ISIS does stick to Quran literally and it tells them to not take jews or christians as friends, so I doubt there's some collaboration going on.

It's more some fucked up sort of parasitism or simbiosis

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>>126832862
Here is some more education Juan. Educate yourself.

>>126832862
The kikes should really read their own fanfic. Pride comes before the downfall. They have a lion by the tail but he's still a lion.

>The Arab slave trade was bad. The Roman and European 19th century slave trade was worse.

HAHAHAHAHA you actually believe what you just typed don't you? The Arab slave trade was worse in both volume (10 million and counting Africans) and the treatment of said slaves. Fuck off you Arab faggot.

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>>126811558
Hey it worked out well for SK and Japan.

Why can't it work for these savages ?

Il tell you why, cuz they love fucking goats, eating with their hands and raping and enslaving their women.

Yup Yup we do alot of invading and a lot of what is said in that picture....but the ends all not always bad.

>>126832933
That second part was for you >>126833456

>>126811558
Last time I checked Syrians and Iraqis aren't Americans but ISIS has no problem beheading, raping, selling, torturing, blowing up, shooting etc them. Only arrogant fucking lefties that can't see past their own nose use this argument.

fun fact the crusades started after 400 years of Muslim aggression and history is repeating its self hopefully we don't loose land over it this time

>>126833456
Transantlic slave tride was 12 million Africans, you retard. And that's within a shorter time than Arabs. Who knows how many more you would have shipped...

Further the slaves Arabs took for the most part are fully integrated in Arab societies that took them. No one questions the Arabness of a Khaleeji Arab of African ancestry. They are all fully assimilated, they don't live in poor isolated parts of the country away from people they've lived with for over a hundred years. And they don't do higher crimes than the average person of population.

You're incapable of event treating those you took in properly... the mark of a savage.

And stop whining so much about Jews. You're just jealous a former slave rose above you.

>>126811558
You are the real enemy.

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>>126833275
Nice cherry picked images there friendo. But since we're on the subject of WE WUZing, why did so many pharaohs and other ancient rulers in the near and middle east have blonde or red hair and blue eyes if they didn't share lineage with Europeans? We know all blue eyed people share a common ancestor. Sumerian rulers had blue eyes. Gee you really didn't make me think you subhuman half African animal.

>>126833995
Baldfaced lie. And Arabs took far more African slaves than Europeans did but they estimate only 10% made the journey because of such poor treatment. And then the Arabs only took males and made them eunuchs

>>126811558
Islamic Terrorism is all CIA blowback from countering communism.
Take your pick
Communism - Ultra nationalism leading to development of Nukes.
Islamic Terroristism - Few hundred people die each year.

>>126832933
>It's not necessarily a race but it is also akin to likewise group of close ethnicities
semetic speakers are spread throughout the levant and africa, often amongst groups that have little relation to each other. and haplomemes mean little, there are africans in the deepest jungles of cameroon that carry r1b despite it being a eurasian haplogroup and many "european" haplogroups since the neolithic have originated in eurasia.

>Actually it has. Hellenization after Alexander's conquest was very damaging to ancient cultures.
not anywhere near as damaging as the islamisation of the middle east was. not to mention the various muslim invasions of other parts of asia, especially in india which resulted in perhaps the worst atrocity of the ancient world, the hindu holocaust.

>There is no comparison with your barbarity and hunger for blood.
your people are far worse. you are a disease and a blight upon the world, every dead muslim is a victory for humanity. get the fuck out of the west.

Islam will rule the west

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>>126832862
Juan where did you go?

>>126834459
No. Kek will rule the West.

>>126823398
You're close enough to home for the Euros to stop that. When they're not being rebellious and inviting in "refugees" of course.

>>126811558
So what was the excuse when at the very dawn of their religion they invaded every corner of the known world?

>>126811558
Let s all forget that the innocent muslims have wiped out all religious minorities from middle east, that they are still trying to invade Nagoro Karabah, that they have made another genocide in Cyprus, and , of course Armenia...poor muslims.

>>126811558
>It's the West's fault that muslims are barbarians

>>126811558
Justification of retaliation.
Its inexcusable.

>>126834716
Allahu akbar.

>>126833995
actually some estimates put the arab slave trade at 17 million, and both occurred over a course of a similar amount of time.