Catalans to declare independence

>>126611680
I love hearing about this. Not because it interests me but because it's so much drama and never actually anything happens.

>>126612436
In 2014 they held a referendum where 80% of people said they wanted to leave Spain. Although Rajoy shut it down that's still kinda something

This guy is a fool and I'm a nationalist independentist
This is not how do you things, we don't have the kids, the money nor the weapons to defend ourselves.
This dude doesn't realize that half catalonia is andalucian and murcian and they won't never support this because they just aren't catalans.
You can't demand independentism with only 51%, you should have at least 75 and this where we should concentrate our efforts.
Making our state smaller, cuting spending, no more foreigners, increase fertility, small arms right, man rights, no more inheritance taxes etc
Fucking gaylords and women, when this party was mainly and hetero this shit didn't happen, fuck women and gays so much for entering in CIU
One of this fuckers even said that we wouldn't have an army, how the fuck would we keep our independence without an army?
Fucking progres

>>126612686
>In 2014 they held a referendum where 80% of people said they wanted to leave Spain
I wish lol
That's not true
That referendum wasn't real and the people that didn't wanted to leave didn't even vote.
I voted btw

>>126611680
Tell me more about these prime steaks

>>126611680
Who the hell cares? They will end up in the EU (Greater Germany) anyway

>>126614230
The EU won't last past 2025

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>tfw hoped for a spanish civil war to volunteer in since i red Orwells "Homage to Catalonia" with 13
>tfw still not happend
So sad

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>>126614468
You will see

>>126614230
well this is what some catalan predicted in the sixties

>>126614050
Sorry anon, they're only in ney York

>>126613802
This is why you vote VOX to purge Spain of lefties

>divide up europe and white people more
good goy

What would benefit Catalonia becoming independent?pls enlight me

>>126611680
I just hope we get the hell out of this country, we'll eventually annex the balearic islands and way more prosperous than Spain, the country that managed to have 30% unemployment without ex-sovietism. A true shithole of retards.

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>>126612686
Venice had a similar thing where most voted for independence. Most people only really pay attention to the Scottish independence movement though because there aren't any good films for the Catalan or Venetian like Braveheart.

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>>126611680
I will kms of east spen gets seperatism

>>126614983
well again the problem lies with the fact that one of his members was a notorious anticatalan
but I see what you mean
Spain has to accept his real diversity instead of importing new diversity
Catalonia used to be right wing before the spanish right wing tried to deny us our language
Now we are in a mess

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>>126611680
Oh, just like they did in 2016... and 2015... and...

>>126615220
The catalans who have lived under an oppressive Castilian rule, slowly destroying their homeland for hundreds of years

Also the free market could use this new country as a marketing tool (new businesses, products marketed specifically toward them, tourism, etc. )

>>126611680

Their accents sound weird - like they talk with a lisp

>>126615363
>he never watched Land and Freedom.

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>>126614613

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>>126614664
>>126614230
this book
I don't know if there's an english version
the guy predicted the fall of the soviet union and the eu in the 60's

>>126614230
not in at least 10-15 years
they'd need to go through the process
and they'll probably be banned until Spain agrees

>>126615492
Apparently they do this because of a Latin king who had a lisp and they didn't want him to feel left out. Idk if that's actually true but it's what people say.

I was in Mallorca during the last world cup. The catalans were in the streets partying because Spain got rekt so bad, there were a ton of fights in the streets over it

10/10 trip would recommend

>>126615363
I think that's really because the Catalan referendum and ventilant referendum allowed non citizens to vote. The Venetian also had Peruvians and North Koreans hack into their vote

>>126615220
what does Italy benefit from being indepent?

>>126615651
Yeah, wow Mallorca. you sure now about the hidden places of europe

Catalans have given problems to Spain for at least two centuries. Don't worry, Europe is with Spain, so they're not going to get independence because no civilized country will recognize it.

>>126611680
>Happening
Hope it's true but I doubt it.

>>126615756
Did I imply I did? Mallorca is catalan, that's why I specified. Go lose another war

>>126614468
I can't see the EU actually collapsing anytime soon. I just hope that they go full dictatorship declare war on someone forcing all member states to participate along with EU army so the Anglosphere can BTFO Europe into infinity along with all the mudslimes residing there.

>>126615696
Nothing. Balkanized italy was so much better off. United Italy is cuckded and garibaldi was a commie

>>126615407
That's why you impose your shitty language on everyone,dont you?

>>126615649
>>126615492
first time I hear this and I was born here
this is some bullshit some castillasn told you

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>>126615220
The president of Cataluña and his rats, they are not nationalist they are statist, they don't give a shit about catalans, only care about the money.

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>>126615854
What will happen if seperatism is true?
Nothing

>>126611680
Maybe they can take back manuel valls

>>126615872
Mallorca is tourist, nothing left of former beuty.

>>126615758
You say that now but let's see what actually happens in a few years

If Catalonia doesn't go on with the vote and declared independence anyway, Donald trump will reocnfnize it and maybe even arm the catalans

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> Leave Spain
> No more Barca in La Liga

>>126616115
Makes sense considering I was a fucking tourist. I know France, not Spain

BASED AS FUCK

this will lead to more and more separatist movements

Hopefully in the USA and Canada

>>126615961
>That's why you impose your shitty language on everyone,dont you?
we don't, 95% of tv chanels and printed press is in spanish
meanwhole pp against making catalan a european language even though it has more speakers than most european ones
if you are talking about the shops then fuck you, this is our land and spain should do the same in the rest of the nation
it's a disgrace seeing names in chinese alphabet in the shops
if they don't like catalan they can go to murcia

>>126616007
I learned it in history in school. It was only mentioned briefly but I questioned the logic at the time so I've never forgot it. It seemed strange to me that such a large amount of people would conform to one man's lisp no matter the circumstances. IDK google it or something it's probably BS but it is a well known meme.

>>126616044
Same with putin get retarded people to vote for them while they put a castro and rob wll the money blame spain for blockade, catalonia hates spain and never sees the indepentism totalitarian party

>>126615649

Interesting explanation. I had no idea about the different dialects until somebody filled me in when I was over there. I was wondering why the eastern part of spain sounded kind of faggy.

>>126616256
They'll form their own league, along with the banques and Gallegos

It's happening anon, the question is when

>>126616349
uk always talks shit about spain so it's no surprise
leyenda negra you know

>>126615961
>Complains about imposing language
>Obviously wants to impose his

That's the logic we are used to in Spain. We had and empire cause we arrived first, but we proved worthless, specially from Madrid to the south, a deserd of semi-sand nigger, it's a disgusting country that had to be destroyed 2 centuries ago.

>>126616340
good luck to you quebecois, I've been in Quebec, you deserve it

>>126616256
monaco plays in the french league
dutch league will probably merge with belgian one
andorra already palys in spain

>>126616143
top kek bro
catalonia is fucked without the EU gibs, in the form of ECB buying debt
go research where Spanish debt is coming from. protip: catalonia issuing shittons of it
this is yet another episode of "gibs or I leave"

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>>126616340
THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN

>>126616073
>become a country
>nothing happens
Are you retarded?

>>126615872
>>126616115

Mallorca is basically a german colony

>>126615910
Keep dreaming wanker.

>>126616143
>If Catalonia doesn't go on with the vote and declared independence anyway.

Tell me what could happen if tomorrow Texas declare the independence, will Trump recognize this and even arm the texans?

The independist are just delusional.

>>126616437
>>Complains about imposing language
>>Obviously wants to impose his
implying baning one languages in shcools churchs, goberment tv and radio is the same as puting fines to NOT puting some words in catalan in shops

>>126616708
Yeah that's true. One of my fraternity brothers is a Baron in your country actually. I was there with him

>>126616347
>we don't, 95% of tv chanels and printed press is in spanish
give me a fucking break
you can even get fined if not labeling in catalonian
BTFO

>>126616436
I like the Spanish. It's French and German we mostly slag off over here. My cousins are Spanish. My auntie is white and my uncle is full Spanish so they are half white and half Spanish. They have money though so maybe my perception is warped but I don't see anything bad to say about spanish people. They were robbed one time on Christmas though by (((gypsies)))

>>126616656
"Country"
All that will happen is no more government from madrid no policies.

>>126616347
Yes,you do.You impose it in schools,forcing the children to study that shit in every subject

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Didn't Franco kill off Catalan nationalism?
I recall him saying that Catalan nationalism was cancer.

>>126616752
>Tell me what could happen if tomorrow Texas declare the independence, will Trump recognize this and even arm the texans?
>The independist are just delusional.
it's not like spain lost all their colonies for this same mentality or something
why learn anything?

TSUUUUUUUU actually forced those fatfucks to leave spain, top kek.

>>126616437
>Obviously wants to impose his
You live in Spain moron

>>126616741
It is a dream. Why are you mad though?

>>126616842
So politicians in catalonia have no more fear of nationalists.

>>126616630
andorrans are not traitors

>>126616347
Cataluña es españa retardao. El idioma principal es el español.

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>>126611680
Fantastic.

Time to genocide the uppity separatists and see who else is willing to be a hero.

Don't stop until Catalan nationalism is crushed into the soil, never to rear its ugly head ever again.

Good luck Spain.

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>>126616834
>half white and half Spanish

What were you thinking when you wrote that?

for all the catalonian larpers: answer first if you'd give aranes official status as language, and would allow Val D'Aran to secede
if not, you're full of shit

>>126615487
by free market you mean jews right?

>>126616887
Cataluña is not a colony.

Stop reading españa invertebrada Ortega era muy culto pero un completo inepto en temas de politica

>>126611680
>Siding with Catalonia.
Yeah, defend those jews, my goy.

>>126617180
They are spaniards just indoctrinated by poiticians

>>126616760
Haha not sure if just trolling or just retarded like most of his fellas.
In Catalonia we suffered 50 years ago what Europe is suffering now, engineered inmigration, but we are fucking resisting unlike most nations out there, and we are not even officially one. Spaniards are just jealous that we love our own land, and that we defend it with passion and some fines, unlike them, with genocide, propaganda and engineered shitty mass inmigration. Spain will fall, cause it's a shithole that only survives by being a puppet of more powerful states, a litteral whore.

>>126617242
That they look white and not Spanish is what I meant. My uncle has darker skin than they do. He looks like a Mediterranean man with greasy hair. They look like white girls with brown hair.

>>126616752
Of course not dipshit. It's kinda like how yous guys armed us in 1776 against the British, but won't arm the catalans against yourselves

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>>126616853
Franco loved Catalonia since everyone surrender and he just walked into Barcelona.

>>126617455
PAELLA CATALANA IMPARAPLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>126616829
>you can even get fined if not labeling in catalonian
we don't people from labeling in other languages as long as one is ours
>>126616846
schools paid by catalans shouldn't teach catalan ok
We also teach spanish, hald my classes were in spanish

>>126617455
>In Catalonia we suffered 50 years ago what Europe is suffering now
Shit happens when you lose a civil war

>>126617580
Huh, I need to read the rest of that book.
Good to know that Catatonia is a bunch of posers.

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>>126617455
What the fuck fid they indoctrinate you with Manolo, you were part of spain state for 500 years.

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HELP QUEBEC

>>126617649
>implying the fact that every person who lives in catalonia speak catalan and want it to be in schools
nice try goyim
nice try goyim

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>>126617649
You literally fall for napoleonic latin american tier (((nationalism)))

>>126617455
>In Catalonia we suffered 50 years ago what Europe is suffering now, engineered inmigration, but we are fucking resisting unlike most nations out there, and we are not even officially one. Spaniards are just jealous that we love our own land, and that we defend it with passion and some fines, unlike them, with genocide, propaganda and engineered shitty mass inmigration. Spain will fall, cause it's a shithole that only survives by being a puppet of more powerful states, a litteral whore.
true, we are already a kind of minority and we still exist and impose our way

>>126611680
Is catalonia for or against eu?

>>126617797
>What the fuck fid they indoctrinate you with Manolo, you were part of spain state for 500 years.
not in the same condition fucktard
>>126617938
you mean the one that your bourbon kings supported?

>>126615492
>>126615649
>>126616370
That's 100% bullshit. In castilian spanish the "s" sound is pronuncied just like in english, while the "z" and sometimes "c" is pronuncied like your "th".
Saying spanish people lisp when talking is as stupid as saying you lisp in english when you say "Anthony think about things".

And in catalan this "th" sound doesn't exist at all.

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>>126617729
>The Civil War was Spain vs Catalonia

>>126617729
>Catalonia
>Losing civil war.
But they actually let the nationals won.
In fact, Franco was so happy, he exported all the industry to catalonia and made it one of the richer parts of Spain.
Also, every independentist that is above 70 years was falangista in their youth.

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I'd like Catalonia to become independent because that would create chaos and disorder and would start a chain reaction. Absolutely no other reason.

>>126617797
they can't get over the fact that it was the Kingdom of Aragon, for centuries, and that it merged with Castilla with the Catholic Monarchs

>>126617938
Is there a source for this image?

>>126618022
They think EU supports them,but but that wont happen because everybody has separatists in their own country

>>126618022
neutral, we receibe some gibs, and the euro is good for some of our companies but if the EU would say no referendum allowed we'd be against

>>126617797
>Spain state
>500 years

If you read some books instead of just the Mc Donalds menu you wouldn't write stupid things.
>>126617630
You just can feel (and see if you get the "joke") the similarity to what a nigger would write about politics.

>>126615692
The online Venetian Independence referendum was fake, we're having another one in October but it's only to give more power to our region. I wish we'll eventually get out of this shithole of a country.

>>126611680
They can join us and be as broke as this shit tier island.

>>126617455
Catalan Independence is inherently leftwing.

You're fooling yourself if you think a small province of the European Union is going to resist mass migration.

>>126618055
>he exported all the industry to catalonia and made it one of the richer parts of Spain.
it was already rich dummie
you think he wouldn't have put it in segovia if he could?
dumbass

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>>126618022
Sadly, they are pro-EU. One of their slogans was Catalonia, a new state in the EU.

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>>126618052

>>126617938
>30+ daily
what the fuck

>>126618228
and they aren't
they're receiving more north and subsaharian african migration
even before EU.mandates
most muslim immigration is there, specially Barcelona

>>126617083
no taxation without representation much? By your logic you are the traitor

>>126611680
No, if Catalonia does it, then that sets precedent and we can do it as well..

>>126617318
Aranes already got official status and they learn the language in school plus the goverment of Catalonia sponsors it in the region.
If they wanted to be independent I'd accept it, but they don't want.

>>126617180
Kill yourself EU polesmoker

>>126617242
Makes perfect sense to me.

>>126618139
>they can't get over the fact that it was the Kingdom of Aragon, for centuries, and that it merged with Castilla with the Catholic Monarchs
the catholic monarchs are not the rulers now, you don't even know about habsburgs or bourbons or what?
and the kingdom of aragon was the region that's now aragon, if you mean the kingdom wich the catalan county was part then that's the aragon CROWN wich the ruler was king of aragon and count of barcelona (catalonia)

>>126618395
Poor countries have high suicide rates.
The later Franco years was pretty impressive for the stagnant economy.

>>126617455
>we suffered 50 years ago what Europe is suffering now
Ofc Spain should support the develop of the Catalonian industry, even if is ruinous like all the shitty textile that you produce there historically, the real problem with the mass migration of the "poor " part of the country is that we didn't had the strength to develop other zones and we pick that wich had few industry, with the time we see that we should promote Andalucia and Extremadura more instead, lots of industry was placed there from Spain just like they went to Madrid, and need lots of people , you retarded payes

>>126618214
Yeah I'm Sicilian American myself. Once unification happened my family spent the next 50 years trying to raise money to get the he'll out of there. I still have some cousins out there, but they hate Italy

>>126618034

whatever, Barthelona

>>126618459
but they have representation, plenty, in both senate and commons
and a level of independence unknown to any other EU region, but the Basque Country
you have no fucking clue

>>126618338
>it was already rich dummie
valencia was rich, catalonia wasn't.
>you think he wouldn't have put it in segovia if he could?
But he put it in catalonia...
Mmmh makes you think, huh?

>>126618535
>but they don't want.
http://www.abc.es/espana/20140110/abci-valle-aran-prepara-escision-201401100424.html

>>126618395
http://www.suicide.org/international-suicide-statistics.html
Seems to be an average of 8.2 per capita

>>126618850
>Sweden is red
I thought Sweden was a happiest country?

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>>126618348

>>126618022
Of course they are pro-eu, the EU heavily independantists initiatives to bring down nation-states to their knees, divide and conquer.

>>126617318
if it wasn't for catalonia the aranes would be extinct
we aren't jacobins as spain or france
the aran independitst are mostly castillan inmigrants making shit up to bash catalonia as usual

>>126616834
Of course you like us you you cunt you ilk always come to our beaches in Summer and shit everywhere.

>>126615592
All people pass through alternating periods of demographic division and periods of unification or imperialism.
The periods of great division last six centuries and a half. The periods of great unification last ten centuries and a half. Therefore, the evolutionary cycle comprises seventeen centuries.

In wich period are we now? Division?

>>126617083
Andorra is more catalan than Catalonia.

>>126617455
This.

>>126618683
At least you're not leeching off Northern Italy's taxes

>>126619088
*which

>>126618440
>most muslim immigration is there, specially Barcelona
cause the economy fool
>>126618228
it's not
never was
only now cause you need that to convince women who now vote

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>>126617042
Just saying things as they are.
Pic rel for ur eyes only.

I was looking through a pile of spanish coins the other day and I wondered, why are you so inept with your currency? How can you have a king without cringing to death when you're basically third world?

>>126618745
he didn't put shit, he expanded cause we are next to france and our people work and are smart

>>126611680
I support it, fuck spain and fuck eu people

>>126618676
As an independentist I agree with promoting these regions, here is the problem: 40 years of huge budget compensations (mainly from Catalunya, Valencia and the Balears), for all this time, most of their workers got a salary payed by the state for half a year, still 0 development. After all this time of giving you away money at the expense of our administration and infrastructre, only so you can live on a bar for 6 months... FUCK YOU ALBERTO!

>>126613802
>have a pretty much 100% catalonian nationalist colleague
>he's also gay

>>126611680
I hope they do. Nationalism need a push so we can get to removing the kebab

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>>126618344
Jesus, just to think that Catalonia was the most right-winged region in Spain just until a decade ago. We had 30 years of right-wing government and we practically elect a fringe anti-immigration and anti-muslim party to our regional parliament (had like 2.8% of votes and needed 3%) that made a spot like this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVEapKJoHgQ

Catalans used to be extremely based, yet again, another people coopted and misguided by the marxists.

>>126619088
We seem to be entering the division period

>>126611680
>Should we help our hermanos in Catalonia?

Unfortunately they're like the Spanish Californians, full of immigrants and leftists, with the true nationalists Catalonians suffering

>>126619088
depends on the nation
he said spain would broke and catalonia would be independent but then would be absorved by a new german empire wich we can see now it's the eu
they say soros read this book and used it to predict his economic movements

>>126611680
brits........do not support this as it will come back to haunt us over our own union

>>126617107
nadie lo discute tarado

>>126619302
>he didn't put shit
(YOU)
>our people work and are smart
Oh the rest of spain are a bunch of dumb lazy faggots, i get your point.

IM
PA
RA
PLAAAAAAAA

>>126619231
Are you a Europhile?

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>>126618676
No?
Is totally the reverse , why would to improve it WAY more when half of the country doesn't have a shit (unless you're from Madrid or Euskadi) but the rest of Spain like Andalucia,Canarias, Extremadura,Castilla la Mancha and Murcia is LITERALLY NOT profitable.

HOW , are you suppouse to live with the seasonal agriculture that we've?

Is fucking retarded to have the community SO FUCKING split up. In an already SMALL country, is fucking bananas.

Where my fellow Spanish bros at?

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This is what most catalans want,this is why they are fucked up

>>126619486
the true nationalists like me are also independentist though

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>>126618195
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/José_Sanjurjo
Born pamplona

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emilio_Mola
Born cuba

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Franco
Born galicia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Goded_Llopis
Born puerto rico

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valeriano_Weyler
Born malorca

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/José_de_Palafox_y_Melci
Born aragon

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_Ricardo_de_Álava_y_Esquivel
Born basque cunt

>>126619567
where are you from?
>>126619599
fuck you madrid has as many commies if not more

>>126619346
Wtf I support Scotland now

>>126619570
No. I am European.

>>126618836
Kek what does a burger know about this?
Aran is the "county" in Catalonia with more people born in Spain (excluding Catalonia ofc). Native aranese want to be with Catalonia but they're overrun by spanish immigrants.

>>126618348
Madrid is catalonian i see now

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>>126619599
>"Cupistes"
>Catalans

>>126619765
Barcelona :^)

>>126619486
Oh ok then. How about the Gallegos and basques? They seem to be pretty red piled and nationalistic

>>126619765
Yeah thats true but actually the spanish goverment does not accord with them

>>126618836
castillan larpers who would take out aranes from schools and tv if they could
true occitan people support catalans

>>126617242
>spain
>white

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>>126617455
0/10 bait, troll.

>>126619900
so you think you can just put factories in some land and it will improve?
why don't we put our factories in Urgell then fucking retard

True Catalans wont support this independence movement. Mainly because it is directed by Pro-Soros Pro-EU gay communists and not based Carlists.

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>>126619384
That video is absolutely topkek. What happened to them?

>>126620086
Bullshit they would support it regardless cause it would be asy to solve this problem once we are independent
We have to fights, independece and national preservation.
We can do both

>>126619351
that's how works I live in a "wealthy" part of the country, I should pay more to integrate all the poor part of the country, most of them moved to my city to work, I have here 4 millions of "migrants" from another regions of Spain also but I have the industry, that's what Catalonia decided back then, more wealthy with migrants

>>126620073
>so you think you can just put factories in some land and it will improve?
Man, tell me you are just trolling and acting retarded on purpose.

>>126619038
Spain is already a very good goy country. The globalists don't divide their own.

I like the part where a mentally ill man insulted "the holy spanish people" and a mob of 50 spaniards tried to kill him with sticks and stones. These are not humans or white.

PS. as always they failed in their endeavor and even suffered a casualty.

>>126611680
>Wanting independence from Spain
>Even considering a pussy cuck referendum instead of just going to war and removing the eternal Morano over a period of 80 years
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>126619648
While for the most part, nationalist Catalans want to be independent, your movement is being used and manipulated by the left.

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>>126620219
They had (((internal divisions))), the charismatic leader was removed from the party and it eventually disappeared from the public radar.

>>126619698
Spain has been effectively a kingdom for most part of the last 500 years, the king assigned some governors that were just some tuned aristocracy. I think your 2 gallon Coca Cola bucket is affecting your brain you obese mombasement-dweller

No separatist group can live without gibs
Prove me wrong

>>126620431
do you support catalonia because they are vassailed by spain as you were the bitches of denmark and sweden,right you nordic cuck whore?

>>126619922
The north part of Spain are pretty based, although we need to stop fighting each other and really focus on the bigger picture. A divided Spain will not succeed, although it's not like we're doing that great right now

SEAT the car brand made mostly in Catalonia doesn't even put catalan city names in their cars cause the rest of spain won't buy them yet catalans have no problem driving cars with the name of spanish names but you know, catalonia is spain.

>>126620225
Maybe getting rid of you might be good since we would end up Weimar Germany levels of bankrupt, go full 1488 and annex you and make a Catalan genocide.

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Can some Spanish dude explain to me why these guys want Independence anyway?

Is this Kosovo 2.0? Independence with no casus belli?

>>126620276
you are the retarded one, economy doesn't work as you think it does
>>126620510
because the "right" rules spain now, with gonzales all these fake catalans weren't independentists

>>126620562
Spain was a single state since the marriage with eastern iberia participating in the politics of the state.

>>126615758

Everybody loathes Spain for injecting their paranoia about separatism to every EU issue. I say balkanize the whole place.

>>126619766
nothing personal juan, but the weaker the eu is, the better it is for us at the moment. I don't actually wish to see spain broken apart but any bad publicity is welcome tbqh

>>126620587
The founding fathers

>>126620693
Cuckmmunists

>>126611680
Some idiots are going to end up in jail.

That is all.

>>126620693
Victimism.
As good jews, they like to play the victim card all the time so they get free shekels.
They will never be independent because they are gaining way too much money form Spain because of this.

>>126620676
but aren't catalans spanish?
see how you people are?
disgusting
vasques killed 800 spaniards and you all suck their cocks, fuck you

>>126620693
because they never were independent from other kingdom or state,and the fact that they have a language(which one is hard to learn) and they lost every civil war in spain(they always were a territory of the losers side) makes them hate us

>>126620903
The French helped fund the American Revoluton,
thanks to their grudge against the English.

>>126620562
then where did the union de armas came from retard?

>>126620258
Wow, I wasn't even talking about inmigration there, it's my fault for trying to comunicate with a charnego in english, pisha que no serví pá ná, solo pá robá! Joder que ni termináis las palabras coño...

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If you Spanish fuckers don't go to civil war to keep your clay I will call you guys cucks amongst Sweden, France and Germany.

>>126611680
>Spanish civil war 2.0

Sign me the fuck up

>>126615696
It doesn't. Nearly every region of Italy was better off as not part of Italy

>>126620979
God, this kind of responses makes me want to truly make a Catalufo genocide. Fuck you all, you are all arrogant jews and Franco was right.

>>126621115
so when are you going to join UK and accept his queen as yours?

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Remember when a mentally ill man called the spanish a monkey people? The spanish people collectively responded by physically jumping up and down and trying to kill the messenger with sticks and stones. Not one of the spaniards managed to form the thought process, "hmmm, are we proving him right by literally acting like monkeys in a documentary?" It's all over youtube. The whole world is laughing at the monkey people from Spain.

>>126621193
Will you join in the holy patriotic league or in the shitty comunist (((republican))) separatist side?

>>126621115
And don't forget the uk

>>126620813
So, putting industry in a poor place and making people from the same country immigrate over 30 years there doesnt makes the region richer?
:thinking:

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>>126615487
>Catalonians
>Free Market
>mfw

>>126621297
For King and Country my man

>>126620952
Police knock on retarded seperatist traitors door, do you say long live spain una grande y libre or do you say visca catalunya libreee

>>126621240
franco was right? didn't he loved us and put all the factories here?
fucking kek you are all schizos

>>126621193
T. George Orwell.

>>126621027
>they have a language(which one is hard to learn)

It's about as hard as the other romance languages, is it not?

>>126621305
They're off the list since Brexit.

>>126620693
Children in Cataluña are brain-washed since they go to school. Society makes them believe they are better than the rest of Spain. They also speak a dialect called Catalan apart from Spanish, but some of them say they have a different language and culture from the rest of Spain.

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>>126620916
Classic Spanish problem. Kek.
>>126620978
Oy vey muh oppression. Give gibs and sympathy!
Yeah that's Kosovo alright.
>>126621027
So you're telling me they were actually never a thing in history before?

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>>126621253

>>126621365
>Banned all languages but Castillian
>Made everyone eat dirt if they spoke their garbage language

>>126621468
Catalan is not a Spanish dialect though.

>>126621343
>putting industry in a poor place
catalonia wasn't poor and already had industry and the people that came were used to castillanize us further but we resist and now you mad

If your country has had any secession, civil war, or coup since 1900, it's basically a non-country.

>>126621528
>>126617580

>>126621468
Whom is brainwashing them?

>>126611680
The tanks will roll into Barcelona

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>>126611680
Restored Crown of Aragon when?

>>126621468
burger education
never fails to deliver
>>126620693
imgagine if abos baned english

>>126621704
The Catalonians, much like how the SNP mandate that "scots" is taught in school as if it were a language and not a butchering of English

>>126618699
Again retard. No th sound in catalan, it's Barsalona.

>>126621455
italian,portuguese and spanish(not what the shitskins speak) are the easy and beautiful languages to learn,and catalan and french(both sounds gay) are the hardest

>>126621364

I'll just have a good giggle at the retarded populists.

I'm pro independence and I'm not catalan. If truly honestly the vast majority of catalans wanted to secede, then so be it. I don't like them either anyway!.

But the truth is that the separatists are still a minority and that most of the separatist discourse is just baseless populist bullshit spewed by some of the most corrupted assholes Catalunya has seen.

So yeah. Fucking dreamers. Get real for once.

>>126621080
how can you compare the union de armas with the contemporary notion of state? That fact that is closer to what people were used to in the day doesn't mean it's what people understand today. We have a history together, but the identities remained, and you just failed miserably to abolish that unlike in France, you are a defeated people, just like from the last 200 years.

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>>126621468
Catalan isn't even that much related to Spanish. Spanish is ibéro-romance, while Catalan is Gallo-romance. That means Catalan is more like French than Spanish

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Remember when a mentally ill man called the spanish a monkey people? The spanish people collectively responded by physically jumping up and down and trying to kill the messenger with sticks and stones. Not one of the spaniards managed to form the thought process, "hmmm, are we proving him right by literally acting like monkeys in a documentary?" It's all over youtube. The whole world is laughing at the monkey people from Spain.

Wouldn't you too want independence from a monkey people? Spaniards literally jump around with sticks and screech as they try to hit people they perceive as weak. And then they die from the "weak" human defending himself.

>>126621468
This post makes me unironically want to vote for that clown OP was talking about.

>>126621909
Sell them to the French in exchange for more gibs

>>126621704
no one, we are just protecting our language and nation from castillans

>>126621677
The guy pulling the spanish flag off is a dirty communist from Podemos though, not an independentist. The independentist is not even touching the flag, he is the one with his hands up calling people to calm down.

>>126621744
God I wish, everytime I read about this stuff a hate equivalent to Serb seeing a muslim Bosniak spawns inside of me.

>>126621829
You have no clue.

>>126621468
>Catalan
>Dialect
Spanish education

>>126621784
Once the big three (catalans basques Gallegos) get their way, you got a spot in independence land

>>126621829
>butchering of English
lol
implying old english is the same and not the result of french and nordic invasion
you speak an english dialect

>>126621875
Can you show proof someone calling
Self catalonian?

>>126621875
what I mean is that if we all were one state there wouldn't have been a need for a union of armas

>>126622054

Euphorically autistic when your region is the most cucked and multicultural of the whole country.

You speak Spanish, German, English, Sudaca, Chinese, Arabic, etc in every corner of Barcelona and the Catalan coast.

>>126611680
Majority of those literally calling for refugees live in catalonia. They prefer the moors to castilians because muh politics.

Is the year 711 revisited.

>>126622200
Modern English and Scots are the same language, with the only real difference being how correctly it is spoken.

I speak Scots, and it's a fucking awful dialect. I wish I had the patience to learn the Queens English correctly

>>126621812
>imagine if abos banned english
They would wish lol. Abos are a fuckin headache on their own.

Read this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murrawarri_Republic

>>126621829
I see. Constant cycle.

>>126622044
please no more niggers

I wonder what the spanish people did when a mentally ill man called them monkeys. Did they act like monkeys or humans? Hmm, if only there was some way to find out.

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>>126621829
Catalan doesn't even belong to the same language family as Spanish (Ibero-Romance) but in the Occitan family (Occitano-Romance). Occitan is also a co-official language in Catalonia in the Vall d'Aran region.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occitano-Romance_languages


Hardly a dialect, but sadly modern Catalan and Occitan have been tarnished a lot by Spanish and French barbarisms.

>>126622385
And what about Scottish Gaelic?

>>126611680
The politicians asking for independence are corrupt to the core and the gov knows it, independence is the only way to get away with it

>>126622304
>Euphorically autistic when your region is the most cucked and multicultural of the whole country.
>You speak Spanish, German, English, Sudaca, Chinese, Arabic, etc in every corner of Barcelona and the Catalan coast.
cause we have been under anticatalan rule
and most lefties are descendants of andalucians who didn't integrate because when they came catalan was out of tv radio goberment and shcool

>>126622543
An actual language only spoken in the isles and extreme north

I used to speak a little but I didn't keep at it and can barely remember anything now

>>126622370
if mariano wanted a milion they would've protest against

>>126622517
I dont know,should I ask your owners(danish and swedish) to get the answers?

>>126622523
I love this snippet of information.

My waifu is from the French pyrenees and she speaks Occitan. Doesn't sound like Catalan tho.

>>126622582
Every single politician in this shithole is corrupt Juan-José

>>126620693
1 ethnic group 1 country. Remember /pol/ is an ethnonationalist board.
Civic cucks get out.

>>126621098
Yes, you were talking about the money that Catalonia "pay", and I tell you what happen with the industry and why you pay, Katalonski stvarno,ti si Jevrejin neznalice

>>126622708
it's different
aranes it's occitan btw and it's protected by the catalan goberment

>>126622370
Because of MUH OPPRESSION MUH CASTILLIAN ARE SUBSTITUTING THE 6 GORILLION OY VEY

>>126622590
Not only that. You are one of the prime tourist attraction in Europe. You are not getting away from the multiculti, Francesc

>>126622200
Actually the Britfag is right. Scots emerged in the 1400s, while the French butchering of English was going on.

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>>126622517
What a beautiful flag

>>126622845
Nice. Visited la val d' Aran years ago. Magical.

>>126622304
That's why we need independence.
Right know Rajoy brings all the shitskins from abroad and send them to Catalonia. We need to control our borders.

>>126622543
Gaelic is highlandish and scots is lowlandish, (i.e. Glasgow Edinburgh). If Scotland becomes independent the highlands and lowlands should split, since before the English came they didn't even speak the same language

>>126622911
tourists are not migrants
every japanese have visited barcelona but there are non living here
we do have chinks but they are ok for now

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Remember when a mentally ill man called the spanish a monkey people? The spanish people collectively responded by physically jumping up and down and trying to kill the messenger with sticks and stones. Not one of the spaniards managed to form the thought process, "hmmm, are we proving him right by literally acting like monkeys in a documentary?" It's all over youtube. The whole world is laughing at the monkey people from Spain.

Wouldn't you too want independence from a monkey people? Spaniards literally jump around with sticks and screech as they try to hit people they perceive as weak. And then they die from the "weak" human defending himself.

>>126621098
most of the regions of Spain would be happy to have the develop of Catalonia even if they have to pay to the poor ones, payes

>>126622731
Catalans are no differrent to castillians galicians or andalusian natives that are all white

>>126622523
now that would be a fine nation

>>126615649
That is just retarded, by that logic the sane happened with English. The th sound in Spanish z and c probably come from Visigoth language.

>>126623030
where are you from?

>>126617455
Unironically this, but sadly we are going to disappear with them, we are not even a 20% by now.

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>>126623055
Do you think the CUP and ERC would protect our borders??? LMAO

With this people we get independence and become a Marxist Republic and a refugee sanctuary in less than two years.

>>126623186
>the worst parts of both countries

I agree

>>126623055
Nobody brings shit.

People decide to move to Barcelona and the coast because it's a cool place to live. People also migrate by the thousands to Valencia, Alicante, the Baleares, the Canaries and even some costal cities in the south.

>>126622708
They're related in the same way that English and Frisian are related. At one point they sounded the same, but then invaders came in and now they don't even sound close.

It's kinda like if your brother moved to Africa and when he came back to visit he was like "eyyy we wuz kangs and sheit". You're still related, although he acts more like niggers

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post yfw the Catalans, Basques, Andalusians, and Galicians all rise up against Spain simultaneously

>>126611680
As much as I'm for a strong united Europe (not the cucked EU bs) I'd like to see Spain divided because the three regions who want independence the most have beautiful cultures and would be a lot better off without everything south of Madrid. Then again the current Catalan movement is cucked as fuck too and they don't even try to gain independence like the brave people who made their countries independent back in the day.

>>126623213
>The th sound in Spanish z and c probably come from Visigoth language.

nah, It comes from arabic. That is why some andalusians confuse the S with Z which is the opposite you in latin america do.

>>126617318
2nd Andorra why not? It only has 2000 inhabitants so it wouldn't be that bad.

>>126623146
to pay while you support castillan companies in the hands of foreginers and not catalans and don't invest in infrastrcture and only in making hightspeed rails for votes? nah

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Spaniards literally jump around with sticks and screech as they try to hit people they perceive as weak. Wouldn't you too want independence from a monkey people?

>>126611680
I hope when Catalan independence happens, they kick F.C. Barcelona from the Spanish competition. Without that tv money Barca will shrink to a mediocre football club. So the Catalonians will have nothing to be proud of.

>>126623359
They tried it,but as always,they failed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_revolt

>>126622731
Others argue Catlans, & Catalonia aren't real identites tho

I would compare it to like Australia saying that we have different culture group to New Zealand.
We're honestly the same, differences wayyy too small.

>>126623092
Chink Fuckers just took every corner bar and Taverna in Barcelona over the past four years.

They still do some nice tortilla, but you can see the generational change unfolding before your eyes

>>126614705
Bullshit. I went to a Morton's in Texas

>>126623545
>inb4 kiwi butthurt

>>126623449
And I want to see Belgium as a part of Netherlands again you cucks

>>126623402
Tell me all catalonias politician stance on immigration compare to madrid, do you want to be independant of nationslist elements with a psuedo (((nationslist))) stupidity that will have catalan speaking arabs replace you?

Catalonia just want a better financial treatmen but the spainish goberment refused even to talk it aobut
this is how this started
the problem lies in the fact that spain is not really poor compared to easter europe and the EU wants to cut gibs to Spain so the goberment of spain had to face less gibs from EU and Catalonia and the extreme socialist state of spain wouldn't allow that

Let's post Catalan waifus

>>126623642
Kiwis can't handle the bantz

>>126622523
te falta corcega,cerdeña, napoles y todo el sur de italia todo eso es catalan tambien

>>126623654
Pls no

>>126623447
Andalusians are too lazy to do that and Galicians would be too busy shagging they goats. The other memelords would get BTFO as always.

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>>126623710
forgot pic :^)

>>126623315
CUP are like the 7th party in votes so irrelevant. And ERC always was way behing CiU.
Anyway it doesn't matter because in the worst case scenario we won't get as much immigrants as the spanish goverment sends us now.

>>126623654
Butthurt Castilian detected

>>126623585
like every bar I know
I'm Sagrada Familia btw

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>>126623447
Is is literally eleven MILLION more times probable that the USA gets nuked.

>>126623502
>don't invest in infrastrcture
the fuck is the A7, the fuck is all the port and all the shit from the 92, are you retarded? look all the other regions of Spain and then talk

>>126623789
Nope,it is only talked in a part of Sardinia

>>126623789
>mapa de lenguas Occitano-Romances
>se piensa que hablo solo del Catalán

>>126623842
>Andalusians are too lazy to do
>Implying We wouldnt support the castillians

kek

>>126623710
Ugly SJW Fuckers dressed with rags and sporting half shaved heads.

Post thick Andalusian babes instead

>>126623447
Let me name shot nomenclature sns make lines on Maps, free the walmartese snd 20th street nation

ITT catalans try to defend they'r nation and fail

btw im catalan but i dont give a shit about all this and i care more about the economy and the important problems we actually have

>>126623938
>>126623991
quiero decir que esos territorios pertencern a cataluña independientemente de que hablen o no catalan.

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>>126623789
>Pertenecen a la idioma occitana

>>126623506

Did you take the picture with a daguerreotype?

>>126623931
>the fuck is the A7, the fuck is all the port and all the shit from the 92
we took less than we give back
>look all the other regions of Spain and then talk
you mean those with free highways?

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>>126623906
Yep. I was there 3 weeks ago between Plaza Universitat and Sants. Fuckers couldn't even understand when I asked for pescadito... But in the end it was bretty gud

>>126624092
fueron de la corona de aragon pero ya no,
no hace falta ser tan grande, con que preservemos cataluña ya me conform