Corbyn is going to win

>>126597647
Comparing Corbyn to Trump is stupid.
He won't win, ever. Period.
There is shame in voting Tory, so they are a huge silent majority. Rest assured.

>>126597825
Ukip prolly have more silent votes

>>126597647
I don't think he'll win but I don't think he'll do as badly as the media is making out. Labour is really trying to get the youth vote atm with JME, hammering the register to vote line etc. It might work

>>126598045
Most UKIP voters will go to Conservative to ensure a victory for the Brexit they want. I'm one such UKIP voter who will vote Tory.

>>126597647
Put a lot of money on it, please. Everything you have.

>>126597825
How could it be shameful to vote Tory if most people do?

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>>126597647
>Actually and unironically thinking Jeremy "JUST fuck my Brexit up" Corbyn has a chance in hell of winning

>>126597647
Does Corbyn support surveillance? May is going full 1984 on your ass.

I could vote Labour if they weren't such fucking pussies.

>Diane 'I don't look like a fucking mess' Abbot

>>126597825
>There is shame in voting Tory
Except for the fact the tories are the only ones who will actually fight for a good Brexit deal with the EU.
Hell, even Sargoy of Cuckdad said he would probably be voting Tory in his latest video.

>>126597825
>so they are a huge silent majority
Nah, they barely won in 2015 and the tory party is immensely less popular now

>>126597647
day dreaming faggot fuck off. you must be very fucking young

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>>126597647
let's hope so, I'm voting for him and there's nothing /pol/ can do

>>126598315
because most people are shameful ;)

>>126598401
So you think terrorists should be given a free reign? I certainly don't.

Why should I give a shit if they can read my inane texts? I'm not plotting an attack so why the fuck would I care? It doesn't affect me one bit - but you know what does affect me? Terrorist fuckers taking over my fucking country and blowing it up - especially since I used to live in London and London is always the target for these things. I know someone who moved out of London because of 7/7, because they were on the tube that morning and could've been killed, and it seriously disturbed them.

So yeah, you might have your view, but my view is that I don't give a shit if GCHQ can read my texts because I want Muslamic fucks to be crucified. And you're not going to change my mind.

>>126598315
Because the only justification for voting conservative is either you're rich and want to get richer or you think you're too good to vote labour, neither of which are very popular opinions

I will be voting Labour for the first time ever since the tories and labour will continue to turn England into Baghdad 2.0 regardless

I'm voting Jez because there's a 0.0001% chance he might save me £9250 next year. Other than that they're both shit tbqh.

>>126598129
This is basically my point

Yes you're right, a Labour majority does seem a very tall order, given the polls

But let's say it's a hung parliament - then a Labour/SNP/Lib Dem coalition could emerge, because the SNP have a fuckton of seats (60 odd or something).

So it's really not that unlikely that the Tories could get more seats than Labour, but if neither get a majority, then Labour and the SNP could together have a majority of seats, and therefore become the new government.

>>126598315
Because the liberal elite minority have convinced everybody it is shameful, and for some reason, they play along

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>>126597647
(((Corbyn))) couldn't win a raffle.

>>126599929
Clearly your parents were dole scroungers instead of hard workers then

>>126601738
I'm 31, and my parents are both conservative

>>126599618
You'll give a shit once your texts are considered illegal hate speech.

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>this guy is going to win

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He seems a bit communisty to me

>>126597647
>be Britain
>used to be the largest empire on earth
>submited the most populated sub continent to its will
>winner in both world wars
>70 years later elect a fucking communist who would not even retaliate a nuclear attack and supports hezbollah

>>126601073

>60 seats for the SNP

Are they winning seats in England too?

>>126599929
Failing to understand the electorate will be labours downfall as you have just done.

>>126601557
It's not that it's more how the (((Tories))) were started by, and still are, a Jew party. Don't you find it bizarre how everything that is/was nationalised suddenly became privatised and the companies that bought them just so happened to have (((Tory))) stake holders. Must be a (((pure coincidence))).
It's like when people praise (((Thatcher))), but have literally no idea about what she actually did. No I'm not talking about the Memeland Islands, I'm talking about how she literally and unironically killed the country and how it still hasn't recovered and is part of the reason we have such fucking high immigration.

>Entire country runs on coal
>Miners got their pay and subsidised coal costs
>Close mines
>Suddenly millions of people out of work and no coal
>It's cool though because (((we'll))) import coal from China at 5x the cost of what we were paying
>So what about the miners who no longer have jobs and no hope of getting a job
>Dunno can't they just like get a new job lol who cares pull the ladder up Jack, I'm alright

You know the (((Tories))) sold off our oil reserves for less than Norway gets annually? You know that prior to (((Thatcher))) more than 50% of the North voted (((Tory))), but since (((Thatcher))) the number has never been higher than 15%?
Sure, it's easy enough to say "muh (((Tories))) never opened the floodgates! That was (((Labour)))!" and you would be right. Except it was entirely because of the (((Tories))) policy in the past and they haven't exactly rushed to close them. It's like shooting someone and saying they were standing in the way of where the gun was pointed so you shouldn't be the one to blame.
Both parties are traitors to the country and you can not refute it. Even (((May))) was (((pro-Remain))).
People vote (((Tory))) because they think they're right wing when they aren't, they're at absolute best centrist. There's no difference between either party because both are only out for the people they care about. Themselves.

>>126599618
I value my privacy . I also value my free speech . If you were to die in a fire it would be easy on you . Cunt

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>>126601866
Then you should know (like I do because half of my family is conservative - the other half pretty apolitical) that it isn't just rich people who vote conservative, idiot

It's just people who work hard and want to keep what they get. My grandparents were fucking hard workers and they didn't come from very privileged backgrounds at all. They just worked hard, and they were always very frugal and prudent, and they believed in responsibility. So they voted conservative.

>>126602169
That's more likely to happen under Labour since they are the ones who think that "diversity" and all this bollocks is of the utmost public importance

>>126602908
It's roughly 60 you fucking idiot

>>126602796
Argentinean Jews are not real Argentineans. You are nothing but denied U.S visa applications.

>>126603294
>I want Muslims to fuck my anus
That's all you had to say

You lefty whingebabies are the death knell of this country, but don't worry, I will viciously oppose you for ever and ever.

>>126597825
>There is shame in voting Tory
There was, but they have moved to "le centre ground" now and their manifesto is left wing as fuck. Shy Tory factor no longer a thing, sorry.

Theresa May is the first politician to make a U-turn on the party manifesto before an election. Absolute shambles.

Also Corbyn will get all the student vote with his promise to scrap tuition fees this year already.

>>126603079
Those miners are supposed to use their parents connections to get jobs laundering Russian and Arab money in London, or become celebrity chefs.

>>126603294
>>126603563
Also just to clarify that surveillance does not affect your ability to speak freely in the slightest - it does not impose any restrictions on what you can or can't say

And the fact that you can't understand this shows the general level of intelligence among lefties like you

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>voting for the Tories, the party that will regulate and censor the internet

kek

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Anybody with a decent amount of sense will avoid voting for that authoritarian turbocunt May.
Corbyn is getting my vote

Also what happened if the Tory's get less seats that before the election?
Surely May would have to resign

>>126603563

>it's ok for the government to put CCTV in my house, I have nothing to hide

kys

Considering the Tories came out and said how they plan to restrict the internet to almost China levels, wouldn't be surprised if Jezza does win. No-one cares when you fuck over something like the NHS, but they'll throw a fit if they can't watch porn online or shitpost.

>>126603456
I'm not a jew, let alone live in their degenerate Buenos Aires.

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>>126597647
>Labour winning
They will be trampled like the vermin they are, just like happened over here.

>>126597647
>Let me be clear: I voted Tory in 2015, I will probably vote Tory again
Cuck.

>>126603758
People self censor what they put on social media platforms now so they don't end up "on the list". Of course it stifles open discussion, brainlet.

VOTE COMRADE CORBYN

England is backwards i see. you vote for the marxist if you want freedom and you vote for the conservatives if you want your free speech taken away. what a cucked country.
Fuck communists.

>>126603079
I like how you left out the part where the Miners were striking and refusing to go back to work and in fact stopping picket line jumping unless they got a 35% pay rise.

THIRTY FIVE PERCENT

British working class people are lazy and entitled. Privatization is the only thing that stopped this country from turning into something like Albania or Venezuela.

Come bitch about muh privatization when our workers become as productive as the Germans or Japs, faggot. Until then things will remain in private hands to stop people like you from turning them into utter shit like it in fact happened in the 70s.

>>126603978
post nose or GTFO

>>126604061
The current """"""""""conservative"""""""""" has practically been New Labour for years now, so technically Labour are going to win.

>>126597825
This sounds exactly like every Trump vs Hillary desu

I just wonder why the tories think it's a great idea to fuck with the internet?? pretty dumb move on their part.

>>126597647
>Comrade Corbynchov
>winning
toppest of keks

>>126604425

Normies don't care

>>126604425
I honestly don't even think its the Tories anymore, its wannabe-President May. Amazed that more old guard Tories haven't been tearing her down for doing away with the triple-lock tbqhwy

This is good and all, but how are Labour actually planning on implementing their policy? I seriously doubt capital will let them rebuild social democracy

>>126597647
Fuck the Tories, the Dementia tax is bullshit. Turned my entire family off them and I'm pissed about the internet censorship plans.

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I see momentum shills are invading /pol/

Corbyn would turn the UK into the European version of Venezuela.

Fuck off communist shills.

#CommieCorbym

>>126604680
>Amazed that more old guard Tories haven't been tearing her down for doing away with the triple-lock tbqhwy
Probably because they know the triple lock is a bad idea that would eventually bankrupt the country

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>>126597647
FUCK THERESA MAY THAT FILTHY NASTY OLD HAGGY CUNT

>>126597647
fuck you commie die kys
> i voted tory
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

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>>126603758
The guy who doesn't want an intrusive creeping surveillance state is a leftist? Do you have some kind of profound learning disability?

To have such a low level of self respect you must be either mentally retarded or a literal cuckold.

>>126604788
>bankrupt MOST of the country
Big distinction for the Tories lad

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>>126603844
He has the biggest rallies. She clearly hates the common people.

>>126604750
>implying Theresa May's unrealistic minimum wage proposals won't do the same

I can see businesses thriving when they're forced to pay at least 60% of the national median income to every single employee.

Also you just KNOW she will crack down on the self employed and turn our labour market into the French model which when you think about it isn't far off from Venezuela.

>>126597647
I USED TO SUPPORT DRUMPF BUT NOT CORBYN IS GAINING MOMENTUM IN FLORIDA I MEAN SHIT I CROSSED THE STREAMS
FUCK OFF COMMIES

>>126604425
they are corporate shills
>>126604235
>demanding pay raises
>leads to lower wages
only if you have the Tory policy of free trade and letting third world labor make your products.
Tories will then bitch about
>we have to be competitive
well shit, mr.Tory if we really want to fellate corporate interest let's get rid of all the worker's protections and social services.
Which is precisely what they do. Tories should be honest and make their slogan
>make Britain into Bangladesh
>no social safety net, shit work conditions, tolerating extremist Islam to not piss off Saudi rag heads.

>>126604425
I'd rather have my internet fuckedwith than niggers getting free stuff from marxists. Fuck corb that cuck cant win.

>>126597647
kek

>>126603871
>slippery slope fallacy
Great "argument"

>>126604072
>People self censor what they put on social media platforms
Holy fuck you mean people can't openly talk about having plotting terrorist attacks anymore? THE HORROR!!!!!

If you oppose the police arresting people for minor "hate speech" / "offensive speech" stuff on Twitter, then SO DO I - I would very much like these hate speech laws to be killed.

But that's not surveillance. That's members of the public reporting something as "hate speech", and then a police officer goes on Twitter to find the tweet (public information), then decides whether to press charges.

"Surveillance" is GCHQ having the ability to intercept communications for the purposes of national security. GCHQ are not a massive operation, they cannot monitor everybody, and they DON'T. They simply have the tools to intercept communications - if they *really* need to - in matters involving national security.

They only use it for credible threats. As they should do.

So do I believe GCHQ should have that ability? Yes, of course I do, and anybody who doesn't is a leftie cuck.

I'm pretty libertarian, I believe in limited government, so I don't like the idea of the government stopping me from saying things, but I do believe in a police force which arrests criminals, which is why I think GCHQ should have the ability to intercept communications *if it is a matter of national security*.

>>126598045

UKIP voters are older and smart - they usually don't vote UKIP if there is a chance for a conservative but a narrow margin. Only vote UKIP in safe conservative or safe lib/lab seats.

Or at least that's what I'm hoping.

>Nationalise Rail (universally popular across all voters)
>Corbyn is a closet leaver
>Ending the ability for employers to pay non-native workers less, removing the incentive for it
>Massively investing in Infrastructure
>Ban Zero hours and unpaid internships
>End tuition fees (currently the most expensive in the world)
>Introduce 4 more bank holidays, 1 for each patron saint
>Protect employees from asset stripping

The tories will continue to flood the country with immigrants and fuck up the EU negotiations so why not live in a less shit country in the mean time.

>>126602796
>winner in both world wars

We didn't win. If WW1 was a mortal wound, WW2 was the killing blow.

>>126605260
>35% pay rise for all workers in a year is reasonable

Excuse me, adults are talking.

>>126597647

I think Gorbyn will win for the most part the people have faith in his economic policies and believe he will go through with brexit and because of brexit they think we need his plan for major investment and nationalisation

>>126605579
>Ban zero hours
I suppose I'm okay with this

>ban unpaid internships
Fucking why? How else are students supposed to get into certain industries?

>end tuition fees
Wrong solution to the problem IMO

>nationalise rail
Been dreaming of this for years, although not much point if they can't ensure the Underground gets nationalised as well desu

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>>126604253
Am I goy enough pol?

>>126605417

Boot licker

>>126597647
I just heard his response to being asked what do if the nukes start flyin. Please do not elect this commie faggot.

>>126605417
I think the problem is you're missing the point that the dragnet data storage is what everyone hates. Nobody is saying disband gchq, that would be cuckery. But so is allowing the tools that are being used right now to be directed at us. By all means wiretap very specific people but storing mass user info is not dignified. Seriously have some goddamn respect for your own privacy.

We can't let corbyn get the nuclear codes

>>126605900
>Excuse me, adults are talking.
I'll translate
>good goy, never question wealth distribution, these matter are simply too complicated for your goy brain
>>126606082
lol you actually are white

>>126603584
This. Trump supporter, but if the goverment clears me of a +£27k debt, I'll sure as hell suffer a few years of Labour.

>>126606026
>Fucking why? How else are students supposed to get into certain industries?
unpaid labor is a garbage practice
by tightening the labor market by ending free trade

>>126605158
Do you think you've ever converted anyone? momentum cuck

>>126605579
>Nationalise Rail (universally popular across all voters)
Reasons to do this: zero
Handing more power to the unions which just fucked up Southern services for months: how fucking dumb do you have to be
>Corbyn is a closet leaver
But he "cares about people" and won't limit migrants
>End tuition fees (currently the most expensive in the world)
You mean, force taxpayers to pay for kids to do a Surf Studies degree while they get drunk for 3 years?
>The tories will continue to flood the country with immigrants
They've reduced non-EU migration by 22% while Labour increased it by 147% when they were in power.

And this isn't just chance - the Tories restricted certain kinds of visas under Cameron. They also closed 800 bogus colleges.

Oh yeah, and they gave us a referendum on the EU, and now they want to end freedom of movement. They've actually taken action on immigration.

What about Labour? Well in 1997, they brought in a law which made it easier for people to bring their family members into the country. A former Labour advisor from that time said that Labour deliberately relaxed migration laws in order to "rub the Right's nose in diversity".

Not only this but in 2004, when the EU expanded (10 new countries, including Poland and other Eastern European ones), almost all existing EU countries put on temporary restrictions for the numbers allowed to migrate. The EU allowed every country to do this. But Blair didn't do it, because he thought only a few thousand people would come from Poland. Now Poles are the LARGEST migrant population in Britain.

But please tell me more about how Labour are better on immigration? I don't believe they are going to do jack shit, because Corbyn wants to be "nice" to people, and Diane Abbott is an anti-white racist who wants to see as many immigrants in the UK as possible.

>>126606352
Forgot to add: separating the British public in principle from the kind of people with terrorist links will instill a sense of ethnic nationalism and make mass immigration politically difficult. I want it to be hard to spy on the British public because then they can only let trustworthy people in.

>>126603844
this
May is too scared to debate her opponents. Her internet policy made me switch to Labour, lets hope Jeremy can pull it to evens by election time.

>>126602625
>He seems a bit communisty to me
just a tiny weeny bit

'shared more equally' by him and his commie chums, I wonder who'll be receiving it all?

>>126606657
>implying scrapping tuition fees would get you out of paying back student debt (or the interest on it at least)
Hate to break it to you pal but you're stuck with all that debt just the same as I am. No way in hell even Corbyn would retroactively write off existing student loans

>>126606754
>unpaid labor is a garbage practice
Granted, but scrapping unpaid internships sure as hell isn't going to replace them with paid ones. Instead, all scrapping them does is remove opportunities to get into the workforce. Don't get me wrong, I hate the idea of having to take an unpaid internship, but if its a foot in the door then its an avenue worth going down nonetheless

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Rotherham and Rochdale sex abuse happened under Labour councils, too afraid to speak out because raciss. Don't let the commie fuckers in!

>>126599929
Toryboy signing in.
I fucking love Tory governments. Top up my trust fund and let me do whatever the fuck I want.

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>>126606782
>Be tories
>Still have higher migration than the party that sounds out search parties for immigrants

>>126603844
>turbocunt May.
>turbocuck Corbyn

Clear chose, momentum traitor why are you so dumb?

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>>126603793
They may regulate the net, but Labour will have you in the Gulag for thought crime and hate speak before you can say 'kek'. Plus we need Brexit. Corbyn will cuck on that like he did during the referendum.

>>126606539
That's because i'm not from Buenos Aires.

>>126604327
but you cunt said blair was son of Thatcher so tories win

Fuck you momentum cock sucker, you make yourself so obvious

>>126597647
what? i heard this is going to destroy labour yet again from multiple left + right sources

>>126605305
better dead than black

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>>126597647
>Jerry "Hamas and the IRA should be celebrated"
>Corbyn "Print money for Poorfags"
>PM

literally zero chance as he is toxic for business. His entire life has been anti EU, anti corporation.

May is trying her hardest to lose because any brexit deal will be bad and kill the party that has to do it.

>>126606176
>he wants to be pozzed in the arse by Muslim terrorists
That's all you had to say

>>126606352
>By all means wiretap very specific people but storing mass user info is not dignified.
Okay I can agree with that. Yes I don't see why they need to store things - I just think they should have the ability to intercept communications for the purposes of preventing terrorist attacks.

>Seriously have some goddamn respect for your own privacy.
Have some respect for your own LIFE. Every single person who I see who argues on the side of "we need privacy, this is big brother!" is just some lefty twat who has their head shoved up their arse about terrorism, they think it will never affect them, they are Reddit-goers, people who spend their entire lives on the internet.

>>126603584
>implying students will vote
Right
>thinking that taxpayers should pay for kids to have a three year drinking holiday while they study "surf science"
Errr
>thinking the government should put itself in more debt to pay for this (which corbyn has literally said he will do)
So you think our government should get into debt, thus endangering their credit rating, and thus potentially making us unable to pay bills, or even respond if there's a downturn in the economy, because you think every kid should be able to have a three year drinking holiday at the taxpayer's expense?

>>126606657
Yeah except it really isn't real debt, it's an income tax you fucking idiot - if you stop earning above £21k (if you're a recent graduate - otherwise it was £15k for earlier graduates) then you stop paying the repayments, and nobody is going to come around your house and repossess your stuff. Because it's not a real debt. It's essentially an income tax.

And like I said to the other guy, someone has to pay for university, so why do you think that hardworking taxpayers, who haven't been to university, should shoulder the burden?

80% of adults in this country haven't been to university, why should they pay?

>>126606757
Yes I'm a momentum shill and my strategy is to convince people to vote Labour by saying Theresa May has steered too far left when it comes to the economy. Makes perfect sense doesn't it?

Theresa May is throwing away a great opportunity the conservatives had of winning a landslide and turning Britain into a prosperous low-immigration, low-welfare, low-taxes high income country. Her strategy is obvious: she thinks the right-wing votes are secured by her promise to deliver on Brexit so she decided to pander to left wing cucks on everything else.

I had high hopes when she called the election after triggering A50. But the manifesto and her apparent belief in some hybrid centralized economy was a real kick in the teeth for me. I won't be one of the sheep. She even pledged to maintain the 0.7% foreign aid commitment. Why are you people shilling for her? Theresa May is economically to the left of Macron at this point.

And as for Brexit, no she isn't the strong woman image the party is desperately trying to push. She made a U-turn days after publishing the manifesto. She is weak, easily influenced and terrified of bad press. Having someone like that negotiating Brexit will be a disaster.

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>>126606782
>But he "cares about people" and won't limit migrants
source
>They've reduced non-EU migration by 22% while Labour increased it by 147% when they were in power.
comparing shit Blair labour to Corbyn's labour is apple to oranges. If Blair or Milliband were running I wouldn't disagree, but there was a purge and Blairites are pissed

Corbyn will not win

Hes getting a bit of a social media buzz right now as the underdog, but his supporters are all children who cant vote or degenerates who dont bother

All his support is concentrated in urban shitholes like London, Bristol, Manchester, Liverpool etc.

Labour will be wiped out across the country

>>126597647
here is where you are wrong though
>Corbyn is a communist POS
>He won't handle Brexit correctly
>the entire labour party has been taken over by marxists

and your country have shown they want none of it.

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>>126607451
>he doesn't know the difference between non-EU and EU migration
>he is deliberately obscuring the fact that non-EU migration has come down under the Tories
>he is deliberately not telling you that Labour could have put limits on EU migration in 2004 but didn't

EU migration has surged since 2004 and is still growing, and the only people to blame for this are Labour because of their failure to put on limits.

The conservatives gave you a referendum so we could control EU migration. What else could they have done, exactly?

>>126598129
The only people who give a shit what 'JME' has to say already live in shithole areas who vote Labout anyway

Hes preaching to the choir, middle England despise him and getting some shit rapper to say "Corbyn is a G bruv!" is going to push them further away

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Holy shit the madman might actually do it

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May's support is larger, but also softer. A mile wide, but an inch deep. She has Asperger's syndrome. She can't communicate. Jeremy Corbyn is authentic. The more we see of him, the more we like him. The inverse is true with Theresa May.

He's going to win, and I hope he does. It won't be a landslide - it won't even be a victory. But a Labour minority government, with a supply and confidence deal with the SNP and Liberal Democrats is likely.

I voted UKIP. I voted for Brexit. I'll vote for Corbyn. Because fuck it. "What have you got to lose?" Right?

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>>126607888
>let's solve our problems by voting for someone even further to the left than Red Ed
I thought this was /pol/, not /leftypol/? What the fuck has happened to this place?

>But he "cares about people" and won't limit migrants
When he's asked about freedom of movement, he won't say whether he'll end it; instead he says "I want a deal that is fair for the workers of Britain and Europe"

He's a cuck. Whereas the Tories say "yes we will end freedom of movement".

Pretty clear really.

>>126608476
lol told ya
Theresa May is a dumb cunt that will go down in history as Britain's Hilary Clinton.

>>126607840
>Every single person who I see who argues on the side of "we need privacy, this is big brother!" is just some lefty twat who has their head shoved up their arse about terrorism, they think it will never affect them, they are Reddit-goers, people who spend their entire lives on the internet.

Fucking state of you, on 4chan of all places

>N-nothing to hide, nothing to worry about

>>126608192
>Drops briefly in 2014

Wow amazing.

I already said both parties are shit at immigration in my first post. The tories are basically useless in just about everything else as well.

>>126608596
Your future.

Nationalizing rail would be a financial black hole with zero positives, it would make more sense to nationalize utilities again and stop China from buying our power grid.

Also this fag refused to say he would retaliate if a nation launched a nuclear attack on the UK

>>126608750

It'll calm down again after the election desu

>>126608750
Sharia May is only a stones throw away from Red Ed. Why made you think /pol/ would actually support her?

>>126608596
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
>Jeremy Corbyn is authentic. The more we see of him, the more we like him. The inverse is true with Theresa May.
Fuck off shill

>>126608907
Thats WWIII no matter what pal, doesn't matter who's in

>>126597647

Just got back from a Corbyn rally in Labour safe Hull.

>easily 2,000 people there, maybe more
>John Prescott was throwing verbal eggs at May
>one guy registering to vote there and then on a borrowed iPad
>union signs and flags everywhere
>copies of The Socialist everywhere
>young people everywhere
>signs like
>"Theresa May sashy away"
>"Hippies and Goths for Corbyn"

tl;dr Labour can mobilise the masses in their safe areas, but who knows what's going to happen else where. A lot of people have recently registered to vote but whether they all vote Labour is another matter.

>>126605133
>using a Blairism
lel

>>126608907
>I would never use nuclear weapons if I were PM
t. Jezza

What's the most likely thing that the Tories will privatize next? We're running out of silverware they can pawn off without taking backlash.

>>126597647
May seems like she's trying to lose, with fox hunting and the tyrannical motives towards the internet, people fucking hate our "hate crime" laws, they are a huge scam played on white people, but she wants them to be even more draconian with her moves toward the internet. I was going to vote for the Tories to shore up Brexit, but I just can't now. UKIP for me, because I'd rather die than vote Labour or any of the leftie cunts.

>>126608750
>"I want a deal that is fair for the workers of Britain and Europe"
Tories will never utter this sentence and as such will go down in flames.

Tories want to make Britain third world by eliminating the social safety net and worker protections, while deepening the Israel-Saudi alliance

>>126609298
Here are seven public assets the Government has privatised in the last year alone:

1. Constructionline - database sold to Capita for £35m

2. Greencoat UK Wind - a green investment fund, sold for £51.2m

3. Eurostar - 40 per cent stake sold for £757.1m

4. Royal Mail - the remaining 30 per cent stake was sold for £1.3bn

5. Royal Bank of Scotland - a 5.4 per cent stake worth £2.1bn

6. Northern Rock mortgage assets - £13bn

7. Lloyds - £9.1bn in shares

>>126608004

Said the increasingly nervous Tory voter for the 100th time

God you really are a bunch of slimy twats

>>126609098
>Hull
A run down migrant/student city that failed to put down a new pavement within 2 years for visitors.

They had 1 job. Upgrade the station so everyone can leave faster. That plan has been scrapped along with road improvements.

>>126608596
>I'll vote for Corbyn. Because fuck it. "What have you got to lose?" Right?

Apart from your economy, culture and future?

Nothing

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>>126609513
wtf i love foreign globalists owning my country now!

t. conservashits

>>126609298
>What's the most likely thing that the Tories will privatize next?
The (Chinese billionaire in partnership with Saudi prince) express toll road coming to a city near you

>>126608898
?
>what is east anglia
why can't we do the model the entire rest of europe uses?

>>126597825
>ever

Don't think that son. He will lose the upcoming elections, but if the tories pursue the economic policies they are pursuing right now they will face really stiff competition from a Corbyn-led labour party in 2022.

>>126608896
>N-nothing to hide, nothing to worry about
Are you plotting a terrorist attack on this country? If you're not, then why exactly would GCHQ look at your texts? Do you think they have the time and resources to do that? Do they think they give a single shit about you - one person out of 65 million people in this country? Is that what you think?

>>126608896
>>Drops briefly in 2014
No, non-EU migration dropped every year APART from 2014, since the Tories came into power. Overall it has dropped from 2010 to 2016 by 22%. Whereas it grew between 1997 and 2010 by 147%.

The only growth in migration now is EU migration. As you can see from the graph, EU migration is absolutely surging. And guess what? Tories can't control this.

So the left keeps saying "net migration is growing" - that's ONLY BECAUSE OF EU MIGRATION - if it wasn't for the EU, net migration would be FALLING, because non-EU migration is FALLING. The ONLY kind of immigration that is growing is EU migration, WHICH IS WHY WE NEED BREXIT.

>>126608960
She's economically a bit leftist right now, but she is far more socially conservative than Red Ed, or David Cameron, or any other modern politician.

This is the same combination Hitler had (government restrictions on economy, but social conservatism). And I thought /pol/ loved Hitler?

I thought /pol/'s entire dream is national socialism? Then the closest thing to it comes along and you don't vote for it? Why?

>>126609098
I do think there could be an increased younger vote, unfortunately

I also think May has run the most shockingly stupid campaign of all time

I also think she never should have called this election in the first place

She is a fucking idiot, her arrogance has been clear from day 1 and I was saying it on this very messageboard on that day of the announcement, that if the electorate hates anything, it's arrogance and assumed victory. This is what Hillary did. This is why she was punished. It's the same with Leave/Remain.

I honsetly have no idea who to vote for
Cons seem really full of shit and their snooping big brother garbage is getting out of hand
Labour is infested with communist scum and they seem even less likely to go through with brexit properly (still dont think cons will do it properly though)

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>>126609715
That's gonna happen regardless of Labour or Conservatives winning. At least under one we will be allowed to post bantz and meme's to deal with the crippling depression.

>>126608596

This I'm not a rich cunt with loads of dosh who can afford private health care so may as well go with Corbs since the tories won't reduce immigration anyway which is all they're supposed to be useful for. Also voted UKIP/Brexit.

>>126609463
She is indeed an idiot

>>126609505
>>126609787
>>126609635
Momentum really is hard at work today aren't they

>>126598129
All the local and by elections since Corbyn became head of hte party have been absolutely disastrous for labour overall.

>>126609715
>economy
Tories already sold it to the Chinese
>culture
Tories are blind to non-monetary value, they can't be trusted to preserve culture
>future
mobilizing British forces/resources to fight for Saudi-Israeli interest is not a very inspiring future

>>126610073
>but she is far more socially conservative than Red Ed, or David Cameron, or any other modern politician.This is the same combination Hitler had (government restrictions on economy, but social conservatism). And I thought /pol/ loved Hitler?

She literally wants companies to publish gender and ethnic pay gaps you fucking cuck. The manifesto has an entire section dedicated to muh minorities.

>>126609513

>sell real assets for make believe money that we could print anyway

why would anyone do this

>>126610234
The Tories have already reduced non-EU migration by 22% by restricting visas, and they've also given you a referendum on the EU (the only way to control EU migration), AND this is all despite the constant moaning from the left that "we need migrants because they're nice / because the economy" or something

So basically you're happy with just letting everyone in then? You realise this is what Labour will do right?

The Tories have proposed laws saying that companies will have to publish lists of non-British workers. AND they're going to increase the financial penalty for hiring a non-British worker (currently £1k a year, will be raised to £2k a year)

But you want to vote for the party of mass immigration? Why?

>>126610206
>he thinks because Labour haven't mentioned it they won't do it
>trusting a communist to allow freedom of speech
>thinking it won't be the excuse of 'muh racism' rather than 'muh terrorism'

>>126610504
>he thinks Labour are more socially conservative
Are you smoking pot?

May has also said she wants companies to publish lists of their non-British workers, and she will increase the financial penalty for hiring a non-British worker from £1k/year to £2k/year

Labour literally love minorities more than life itself, why exactly would you vote for them?

>>126597647
>The anti-Tory surge is growing
Among schoolchildren.

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>I quoted poets, I quoted Ben Okri, I quoted Maya Angelou

>they're shifting towards Labour

Yes, we should all believe the polls as shown on the BBC

oh look everyone another corbyn shill

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>>126597647
its very unlikely for the following reasons:
shy tories
students / the young never vote
he's a marxist clown
He's adding voters only in areas that are already Labour
but most of all Labour need to be 12$ AHEAD of the Tories to have a majority. He's currently 10-15% behind

>>126603563
>lefty whingebabies

Since when was the promotion of freedom of though and speech a symbol of the left?

Are you dense or something?

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what are the pros and cons for labour and conservatives?

>>126604235
To be fair - it wasn't the workers who were responsible for the strikes - it was the union leaders themselves.
They thought they could do what they did in the 70's but Thatcher was too rigid.
Basically it was both of their faults and the workers got fucked in the middle.

so has UKIP as a party to vote for kind of fizzled out since the last election? I recall in 2015 they got a TON of votes but only won a single seat or something like that and alot of brits on here were disheartened

>>126610814
>>126610877

Just look at this thread

Obviously Labour are currently not ahead in the polls, but I think this election is going to be very close - it is clear there are lots of people who hate May (Labour's vote share has been increasing ever since the election was called)

I don't want Corbyn to win because he's a soft sack of shit

But Theresa May really needs to stop fucking up her campaign if she wants to prevent a hung parliament.

>>126610073
>Are you plotting a terrorist attack on this country? If you're not, then why exactly would GCHQ look at your texts? Do you think they have the time and resources to do that? Do they think they give a single shit about you - one person out of 65 million people in this country? Is that what you think?

Yes, completely give up your freedoms and liberty to protect yourself from "terrorists". Absolute fucking embarrassment to live among craven rats like you.

> but she is far more socially conservative than Red Ed, or David Cameron, or any other modern politician.

Lets have a read of their manifesto, page 55
The gender pay gap: We will take measures to close the gender pay gap. We will require companies with more than 250 employees to publish more data on the pay gap between men and women. We shall continue to work for parity in the number of public appointments going to women, and we shall push for an increase in the number of women sitting on boards of companies.
We will take steps to improve take-up of shared parental leave and help companies provide more flexible work environments that help mothers and fathers to share parenting. We want to help those who have been caring for a child or children for a
number of years or supporting an elderly relative. For these people, returning to work can be daunting: things have moved on and people worry that their skills have been eroded. We will address this, providing parents and carers with the confidence to return to work when and how they wish. So we will support companies to take on parents and carers returning to work after long periods of absence and back similar schemes in the public sector, including the country’s biggest employer, our NHS.

>>126611076
Corbyn is an unapologetic commie.

Tories are still socialists by American standards.

>>126601678
based portillo laughing in her face

>>126611045
FPTP gives Labour a 7% advantage over the Tories.

In 2015, Cameron got 7% more voteshare than Labour, but barely a 1% seat majority

Anything under that would be hung parliament, creating a possibility for a Lab+Lib+SNP government

>>126610785
I never said I'd vote Labour, shill. There's more than two parties you know?
>and she will increase the financial penalty for hiring a non-British worker from £1k/year to £2k/year
lmao is this what campaign HQ told you to repeat like a parrot?
Work visas are a non-issue. People who are coming here sponsored by a company are usually high skilled and don't stay after their contract is over. The real immigration loophole is the commonwealth shitskins being allowed to bring "family members" here and then those same family members being entitled to bring even more of their extended families as soon as they get an indefinite leave to remain. That particular visa type has no control on skill, income or even the ability to speak English. And the best part: they're allowed to vote!
https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefing-paper/315

You know how many times this massive issue has been mentioned in shariah may's manifesto? Take a wild guess.

>>126597647
>probably
You're a maniac
>The Tories think that people will vote for more of the same
If people vote for Corbyn and expect henceforth Brexit to happen, these people are insane. The Torys are massively more pro-Brexit than Labour. Labour will fuck it up. We surely all know this. If you want to Brexit, do not vote Labour.

>>126611045
>Labour need to be 12$ AHEAD of the Tories to have a majority. He's currently 10-15% behind
All they really need is to stop the conservatives getting a majority, then it would boil down into another coalition and it doesn't look like the others are too fond of forming a coalition with the Tories.

>>126611070
>ad hominem because you have no argument
To be expected I guess

As I've said multiple times (and as the lefties are unable to understand), GCHQ having the power to intercept communications in very particular cases where there is a threat to national security DOES NOT IMPINGE UPON YOUR FREE SPEECH IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER

You know what does impinge on your free speech? Hate speech laws - BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT "SURVEILLANCE" - THAT IS A DIFFERENT THING ENTIRELY

>>126611178
Their vote share in the polls has gone down a lot

And we had local council elections recently - UKIP had like 150 seats nationwide, and they lost ALL of them. They gained 1 from another party. So they went from ~150 seats to 1.

>>126610073
Oh look it continues!
https://s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/manifesto2017/Manifesto2017.pdf

>The race gap : Theresa May’s first act as prime minister was to order an unprecedented audit of racial disparity across public services, to reveal the outcomes experienced by people of different
ethnicities. That audit reports in July and a Conservative government will not hesitate to
act on its findings, however uncomfortable they may be.
>Alongside that assault on injustice, we will tackle those issues we already know about head on. We will strengthen the enforcement of equalities law – so that private landlords and businesses who deny people a service on the basis of ethnicity, religion or gender are properly investigated and prosecuted. We will legislate to mandate changes in police practices if ’stop and search’ does not become more targeted and ’stop to arrest’ ratios do not improve. We will reduce the disproportionate use of force against Black, Asian and ethnic minority people in prison, young offender institutions and secure mental health units and we will legislate here too if progress is not made. We will launch a national campaign to increase the number of Black, Asian and ethnic minority organ donors to cut the long waiting times for patients from those groups and save more lives. We will also ask large employers to publish information on the pay gap for people from different ethnic backgrounds.

>>126610650
>But you want to vote for the party of mass immigration? Why?

I don't know who I'll vote for yet. Well Labour are more appealing now the Blairites have fucked off I trust Cortbyn more. As for the Cons they mainly gave the referndum only because of how well UKIP were doing and they didn't want them eating anymore into their vote. May was/is a reamainer, as was Cameron. Both presided over record immigration, May was home secretery then.

Also Coryn didn't campaign against Brexit he took flak for that so no way he'd reverse it. I dunno I'll probably read both manifestos more before I decide.

>>126610073
And my favourite

pg 82
>Some people say that it is not for government to regulate when it comes to technology and the internet. We disagree. While we cannot create this framework alone, it is government, not private companies, to protect the security of people and ensure the fairness of the rules by which people and businesses abide. Nor do we agree that the risks of such an approach outweigh the potential benefits. It is in the interests of stable markets that consumers are protected from abusive behaviour, that money is able to flow freely and securely, and that competition between businesses takes place on a level playing field

>>126611232
>freedoms and liberty
Because intelligence services are impinging on your liberty right? No, they're not - they're services that investigate very high profile crimes that endanger our lives.

Hate speech laws DO limit our free speech - the ability of GCHQ to intercept the communications of terrorists who are plotting a very serious attack DOES NOT limit your free speech.

>May has mentioned the gender pay gap
That's because a party that isn't seen tackling it is unelectable you fucking idiot

Let's have a look at Jeremy Corbyn - oh look, here in this picture he's advocating "refugees welcome": >>126610824

Whereas the Tories said very clearly that they wanted to help refugees *in the middle east*, rather than bringing them here.

You have not disproved that the Tories are more socially conservative than Labour.

>>126611490
The maths still doesnt work

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/apr/20/tactical-voting-to-beat-the-tories-does-the-maths-equal-a-coalition

Pisses me off i got to vote for one of two shit parties or waste it. Is voting may the best option atm for the best chance with brexit and immigration?

Also wtf can we do about this in the long run? if anons get into politics could we create a party that actually stands a chance?

>>126611360
>There's more than two parties you know?
Eh maybe I should vote UKIP then

>The real immigration loophole is the commonwealth shitskins being allowed to bring "family members" here
Yes and who brought that in - oh yes it was Tony Blair in 1997.

>>126611370
Half the country doesn't care about Brexit. And many of those that voted for it have a toxic aversion to the Tories.

>>126611490
Exactly, Labour can get fewer seats than the Tories and still form the next government with the likes of the SNP (who have like 55 seats, which is a fucking lot)

>>126611535
>>126611724
See this: >>126611882
>You have not disproved that the Tories are more socially conservative than Labour.

>>126611076
Corbyn pros
> Will nurture your fantasies of a communist utopia

Corbyn cons
> Will destroy the economy in the process of trying to make communism work

>>126600244
Underrated.
>voting conservative just to piss on the surrounding glaswegians.

>>126610206
>At least under one we will be allowed to post bantz and meme's to deal with the crippling depression.

Lol

Yes m8, the Commie/SJW alliance which makes up Corbyn's support it going to be totally fine with 4chan

>>126610650
Because he's a brownie.

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>>126605133

>>126597647
Jeremy "Venezuela is a warm up" Corbyn
lmao

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>>126610234
>"Restricting immigration slower than i'd like is basically the same as just having open borders"

Democracy was a mistake

>>126611882
>That's because a party that isn't seen tackling it is unelectable you fucking idiot

Then what's the point of this so called """""conservative""""" party? Why are you going to such lengths to defend New Labour mk2?

>>126608596
>I voted UKIP. I voted for Brexit. I'll vote for Corbyn. Because fuck it. "What have you got to lose?
Well Brexit for a start. Do you really think he'll take us out of the customs union (trade control) and single market (freedom of movement)? He'll keep us in both which will mean no Brexit. If you value Brexit you have to either vote Tory or UKIP. Thats just a fact

>>126597647
>How are UK elections decided

By house price growth you mong. Tories have achieved even in the past 2 years nearly the 14% house price growth that results in victory over a normal 5 year term.

Why can't Leftists into basic politics and economics?

>>126611992

Intriguing.

>>126597647
You think just the Torys use soundbites?
Irregardless, Labour did horrible at the local elections and there's a big conservative resurgence up north. You're millennial friends may love him, fortunately they're least likely to vote. The debates in one week, and he'll probably get BTFO of existence like he did weekly on the PMQs

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>>126597647
I cant wait to riot over toiler paper rationing

>>126612258
>Yes and who brought that in - oh yes it was Tony Blair in 1997.
And the tories have no plan to end it. So what's your point?

>>126612380
Well May and her party itself have made clear they are working towards censoring the internet. Parties don't always do everything their supporters want. and so far Labour haven't done anything to indicate they would censor the net. And infact have helped shut down some of May's previous attempts at policing the net.

Still remember this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YBumQHPAeU

Corbyn is going to lose. The center-left is losing in most of Europe, people are realizing their role in bringing in multiculturalism and how bad it really is for them.

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Daily reminder lads, she's trying to block Brexit again.

>>126611992
If Labour win like 20 seats off the Tories then they would have fewer seats than the Tories, but Lib/Lab/SNP could form a coalition larger than the Tories

But it's a big ask.

I think it will be close - I think it could even be a hung parliament, and maybe we will have to vote again to solve the deadlock.

>>126597825
fpbp

Quick rundown on Corbyn? requesting stances on
>>immigration
>>feminism/social justice
>>authoritarian/libertarianism
>>taxes

>Meanwhile, in other UK news:

https://www.therebel.media/victory_tommy_robinson_vindicated_at_court_hearing

>>126613275

At least somebody is standing up for common sense.

>>126610234
>Corbs since the tories won't reduce immigration anyway which is all they're supposed to be useful for
Is this really the state of /Pol/ these days? We have to actually Brexit first before we can legitimately bring down immigration. Thats the whole reason you voted for Brexit, right? You would risk Brexit for Labour, who will obviously compromise on freedom of movement. Are you this dumb? Do you think Labour wouldve ever in a million years given you a referendum? who would you trust more to bring down immigration if your life depended it, May or Corbyn? Corbyn is pro-freedom of movement and pro-mass immigration, you fucking clown

Your position is - "I want us to bring down immigration so I'm going to make it as hard as possible for that to happen by voting for the pro-mass immigration party (the party that started mass immigration in the first place) rather than the party who states in their manifesto they'll bring it down after we've Brexited

..the fucking state of you!

>>126611607
>Both presided over record immigration, May was home secretery then.
Why are you listening to this leftie argument when it is a completely hollow argument?

1) Non-EU migration (the only kind they can actually control) came DOWN under the Tories by 22%
2) EU migration is skyrocketing, and the Tories have given us a referendum. They physically can't control it right now.
3) Do you really believe that Labour will be tougher on immigration than the Tories? It would be great if the Tories did more but IT'S THE LEFTIES THAT STOP THEM.

There might be other reasons to vote Labour, sure, such as them putting more income tax on the rich, and increasing corporation tax, and things like this

But I don't believe for a second that Labour will do more about immigration than the Tories

>>126613553
>We haven’t received the final legal bill yet, but it won’t be cheap.
lol what a fucking kike
if he won the challenge it means the government is liable for court costs and fees

>>126605133
>in the UK even leftist candidates get nearly 100% white rallies
*sighs*

>>126612413
Probably

>>126612635
We have a choice whether we want a communist or a social conservative

I'll go with the social conservative

>>126613285
Jezza isnt campaigning in swing seats though, he's just playing to the gallery in solid Labour constituencies.
Labour would need to steal seats from the Tories in the midlands and it doesnt look likely

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>>126613536
>>immigration
Officially no stance other than 'fair', i.e. let niggers in by the bucketload.
>>feminism/social justice
He isn't really into that shit but his voter base is.
>>authoritarian/libertarianism
Not as authoritarian as May.
>>taxes
Wants everyone successful to pay 80% tax so he can pay Muhammad's their benefit money.

>>126613693

Yes good point kek

>>126613771
>Labour would need to steal seats from the Tories in the midlands and it doesnt look likely
I wouldn't rule it out, lots of those places have big minority communities (Nottingham and Leicester) AND LOTS OF STUDENTS.

Students are extra motivated to turn out now, they've been registering in big numbers - they're pissed off over Brexit.

They will probably still be the lowest turnout group, BUT I'm just saying don't underestimate them.

Who knows. Recent elections have shown that none of can know anything for certain, we can only make guesses, that is quite literally the best that anybody can do.

>Cucks on ((pol)) voting for Sharia May
>Unironically wanting 4chan to be blocked and you arrested for mean words online
>Thinking the state should take your house

Wew

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>>126614225
I'll have to move in with you then.

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>>126614343

DDDD:

Let me off this ride

>>126613762
>social conservative

>Wants to reduce your personal rights
>Wants to encourage gender pay gap/ethnic pay gap clampdown
>Wants to force elderly to sell their homes to pay for their care (oops u-turned on that today!)
>Wants to encourage more internet surveillance (after hilariously trying to clamp down on encryption a few years ago) and make using VPNs even more a of a no brainer than it already is
>Has further strengthened what is considered antisemitism
>Has done nothing to defend the family unit

>>126613579
Are Ireland actually the new leafs? Not seen anytrhing that was onehundredpercent toxic cancer from that flag since - I can't even remember.

>>126614225
>in a choice between a social conservative and a one of the most socially left wing politicians in British history (somebody who supported the IRA), he goes with the commie

What the fuck is wrong with you?

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>>126597647
This. SHARIAH MAY BTFO!

>>126614482
>You have not disproved that the Tories are more socially conservative than Labour.

>>126597647
Its on purpose. This is how they will undo the peoples will to leave the EU.
calling it now.

>>126612258
>Half the country doesn't care about Brexit
Most of the country does. Ardent Remoaners are now polling at just 22%

>And many of those that voted for it have a toxic aversion to the Tories
The Tories are the party (largely thanks to UKIP voters) who gave us the referendum. You were also more likely to be working class if you voted Brexit and middle class if you voted Remain. Tories are the only party that can deliver a Brexit for the working class. Labour will not do it. Labour left the working class decades ago

>>126610073
>It will only be used against terrorists
You really don't believe that do you? They already have all the resources they need for fighting terrorists. These laws are blatantly designed for scope creep, just like the sex crime ones are. Not that there's anything that could be done about it because labour would be worse.

>>126597825
There's shame in voting any of our parties, though.

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>>126614607

Have you reached voting age yet anon ?

>>126614695
You're underestimating how much the working classes hate the Tories

White van men will vote for Theresa May, yes absolutely

But ageing working class women will think "muh NHS" and all this shit

>>126614708
Which laws specifically are you referring to. All I am saying is that GCHQ should absolutely have the power to intercept communications in cases of national security. I would even support them having to go to a court every time they want to do it, if this improved privacy of normal people (although this would have to be weighed against potential delays to an investigation)

If you are talking about hate speech laws then I have already said that I despise hate speech laws.

>>126614759
I'm just telling you what's true my friend. I would rather have May than Corbyn, it's as simple as that.

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A good immigration policy that would work is to only allow the indigenous French, Spanish, Italians, Norwegians and maybe the Germans come over, they're pretty civilised.

No more second world filth like the Poles, Serbs or the Romanians.

And a complete ban on third world nig nogs and pakis.

>>126614008
I don't mean the cities, they do tend to vote labour because of the immigrants / yoof . I mean the places like Nuneaton.
Look at the current electoral map, its a sea of blue apart from the cities / Northern heartlands. Labour need to win more than the cities. Still, who knows?

>>126615382
You're right but it won't happen. Instead you have a choice at this election

>The Tories
- Reduced non-EU migration by 22% by restricting visas
- Want to make companies publish lists of non-British workers
- Will raise the financial penalty for hiring non-British workers from £1k/year to £2k/year
- Promised to end freedom of movement

>Labour
- Increased non-EU migration by 147% when they were in government
- Corbyn won't rule out keeping freedom of movement
- He keeps banging on about "fairness" for British AND EU workers (so basically he wants to have lots of immigrants)
- The rest of his cabinet is very pro-immigration

I will be the first person to concede that the Tories are not perfect on immigration, BUT THE HARD-NOSED REALITY IS THAT NEITHER PARTY IS GOING TO STOP IMMIGRATION. ALSO THE HARD-NOSED REALITY IS THAT NO OTHER PARTY IS GOING TO PRODUCE THE NEXT PRIME MINISTER, WHO WILL MAKE THESE DECISION.

The choice is between a party that will at least control immigration to some degree, and a party that thinks "we need immigration because public services / because we don't want to be racist" and all that garbage.

That is the reality of the situation - you might wish that the reality was different, you might wish we could press a button to deport everybody, BUT THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN - instead you have the choice I've laid out, and I know which way I'm voting.

>>126616094
*these decisions

>>126615139
>But ageing working class women will think "muh NHS" and all this shit
Yeah i know. I live in one of those "pin a red rosette on a donkey" areas where everyone still equates Labour with the trad working class vote. Sad! and infuriating. People also seem to conveniently forget that it was Labour that first started to privatise the NHS, not the Tories. In our area people are open minded about voting Tory (although still mainly Labour), but the neighbouring town is part of our constituency and they're all "muh benefits", so they always always vote red. Depressing

>>126616094
Well said, anon

>>126606782
>it's le unions fault southern wouldn't just back off with their stupid plan
it takes two sides to make a labour dispute. southern rail are redundant middle-men

furthermore mass immigration is a cornerstone of anti-labour (workforce, not the party) politics http://www.redpepper.org.uk/Their-crisis-our-challenge/
>One of the major barriers to continuous capital accumulation back in the 1960s and early 1970s was the labour question. There were scarcities of labour both in Europe and the US, and labour was well-organised, with political clout. So one of the big barriers to capital accumulation during that period was: how can capital get access to cheaper and more docile labour supplies? There were a number of answers.

>One was to encourage more immigration. In the United States there was a major revision of the immigration laws in 1965 that in effect allowed the US access to the global surplus population (before that only Europeans and Caucasians were privileged). In the late 1960s the French government was subsidising the import of Maghrebian labour, the Germans were bringing in the Turks, the Swedes were bringing in the Yugoslavs, the British were drawing upon their empire. So a pro-immigrant policy emerged, which was one attempt to deal with the labour problem.

>So a pro-immigrant policy emerged, which was one attempt to deal with the labour problem.
>So a pro-immigrant policy emerged, which was one attempt to deal with the labour problem.

>The second thing you go for is rapid technological change, which throws people out of work. Thirdly, you had people like Reagan and Thatcher and Pinochet to crush organised labour. And finally capital goes to where the surplus labour is by off-shoring. This was facilitated by technical reorganisation of the transport systems: one of the biggest revolutions that happened during this period is containerisation, which allowed you to make auto parts in Brazil and ship them for very low cost to Detroit or wherever.

>>126616629
Exactly. I mean yes of course there are some working class people who are now voting Tory for the first time in their lives in this election - I have seen such people on the news. Due to Brexit, of course.

But there will still be lots of people who, despite voting Brexit, will be very reluctant to vote Tory. It will be anathema to them.

>>126617402
>furthermore mass immigration is a cornerstone of anti-labour (workforce, not the party) politics
I agree but Corbyn refuses to be anti-immigration

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>>126606482
Corbyn getting ahold of nuclear codes is EXACTLY what the world needs.

>>126597647
I will laugh my fucking balls off when Mat and her freedom hating, Murdoch cock sucking posh Tory cunt mates are kicked out on June 8th.

Vive la revolution baby.

>Hold rallies in traditional Labour hotbeds
>People who were always going to vote Labour regardless of the candidate show up and don't boo him
>LE MOMENTUM

Why doesn't Jezza hold a rally in rural Hampshire? Or anywhere where he wouldn't be preaching to the converted? At least May is targeting areas that she needs to win over.

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>>126618146
It won't be complete until the corpses of Blairites and Tories are paraded through the burning City of London.

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>>126597647

erm no

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>>126618292
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-wrexham-shop-no-eggs-flour-sell-protest-fears-conservative-tory-wales-manifesto-a7749771.html
theresa may has literal autism, anon. anything but a crowd of tory party members is too much for her.

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>>126618845
>>126618801
>britcucks will vote in Theresa "Britons benefit greatly from Sharia Law" may
It's a fate you deserve tbqh

>>126613173
You have a short memory. Look up anything about Harriet Harman's awful "think of the children" policies.

>>126619111
All the alternatives want soft-brexit, except for ukip who have no chance of getting in

>>126613275
What I don't get about this horrible woman is why she doesn't simply move to France?

>>126619236
>Tories will bulldoze over the NHS, but at least brexit means brexit means brexit means brexit

>>126617787
>there will still be lots of people who, despite voting Brexit, will be very reluctant to vote Tory
These people who can't bring themselves to vote Tory should be unequivocally voting UKIP, for the sake of a working class Brexit if nothing else

>>126611360
>campaign HQ
I suspect it's a little bit.. Deeper than that if you catch my drift.

Fuck me. I wasn't going to vote but I'm registering last minute now

>>126597647
May probly doesn't want to assume the whole brexit shitshow though. Maybe, I don't know.

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>>126619501
The only reason people wanted Brexit was to get rid of muslims and rampant immigration, so they vote for Tories and UKIP who perpetuate capitalism, which requires constant growth, but strangle the people's ability to grow, which actually requires rampant immigration to keep up.

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>>126619111

>a fucking leaf

mate u clearly have no clue about politics the only thing that matters is leaving the EU

>>126620022
good lad. remember the ABCs of voting.

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>theresa "GLOBAL BRITAIN" may winning
Yeah no.

>>126618292
You need to look in the press. And you need to look at the opinion polls, which are narrowing. And you need to look online (yes obviously online is only a section of the population, but it's an important consideration).

>>126618801
Notice in middle England, lots of Tory area which voted Remain.

>>126619501
Maybe they should, but they're not. See: council elections. See: opinion polls, where their share has collapsed. See: vox pops on Newsnight etc. where many UKIP voters are saying "they've done their job now, now I want Theresa May to give us a good Brexit"

Some people will vote UKIP, but their share has gone down a lot.

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>When Wales seen a 16% surge in Labour voters

>>126599618
"Nothing to hide, nothing to fear" is a dead meme and doesn't stop terrorism nearly as much as you think desu

>>126615139
>ageing working class women
You are right here but having talked to my family (t.scargill child) recently I can see the tories picking up lots of votes from previous groups who didn't vote at all before. The children of northern GenXers. Well, until May's recent awful performances anyway.

>I have already said that I despise hate speech laws
Fair enough. But my point was mainly that they do whatever the fuck they want anyway so they don't need new powers at all.

>>126597647
Dirty fucking reds should be slung from the rafters as far as I'm concerned, wasn't going to vote con but I am now, have fun getting landslided

>>126598315
Because arguing with these Corbyn retards is impossible.

>>126620922
May you watch your daughter get raped by Pakis forever.

>>126602796
We kinda lost both wars really, In outcome anyway. We were never going to get invaded if we lost either and us winning WW2 gave half of Europe to the commies.

>>126620963
>never been right about anything
>dogshit with money
>shit on the people on favour of the rich
You should be proud of being a cuck.

>>126613753
Sigh because feelsbadman because we're 40%?Yeah...feelsterribleman. Stay strong UK.

>>126598129
Shame about JME he actually has really good bars. Hopefully skepta doesn't get involved in politics then I'll have to delete a fuckton of songs off my phone

Brexit was never going to happen, they're just trying to save face while reverting the facade of the decision.

>>126620410
Always Be Checking to see if your votes are being placed directly into the trash? Seriously, mind filling in an Americunt?

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>>126620570

>Notice in middle England, lots of Tory area which voted Remain.

Do you think they will vote labour or lib dems?

or will they continue to vote Tory?

note only 22% of the public are still hardened Remoaners

think on faggot

>>126598186
It's like the Brexiters secretly wanted more immigration the entire time.

>>126598359
Great, a PM who doesn't want Brexit handing the reins over to Boris "Just Fuck My Everything Up" Johnson. Meanwhile Labour's got someone actually qualified on the burner for their negotiations - as in, not Corbyn.

>>126599618
You'd think the Cons would be a little more reluctant about arming the terrorists in the first place.

>>126618292
yeah meeting 20 people in a village hall makes a difference in an age when people discuss politics online with people they never meet

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>>126597647
>tfw the tories are trying to lose so that labour gets blamed for the upcoming recession
its a strange situation

>>126621885
Anyone but Conservatives

>>126622401
Lib Dems to steal remain votes in libdem/tory swing seats.
Tories to steal rural/suburban retard votes in labour/tory swing seats.

>>126597647
>voting for a party who openly state they want to control and censor the internet.

What the fuck are you doing on here?

If Corbyn loses less than 50 seats it's a personal success considering he's carrying a hugely divided and disjointed party.
If those Blairite cucks had united behind him from day one he'd be cruising this.

Corbyn needs to win. Fuck mommy may and her beta male supporters.

This is a MANs world.

>>126620860
What exactly about surveillance do you object to?

On the power of GCHQ to intercept communications - do you oppose that? Because I absolutely don't - they've stopped numerous terrorist attacks. We could have been like France or Germany without that sort of work.

No I wouldn't want the government saving and collecting data, but I think they should have the ability (perhaps requiring a court order though, as you normally require to enter someone's house) to investigate somebody's electronic communications if there is reason to believe they endanger lives.

For example I don't think WhatsApp communications should be all encrypted with no way for law enforcement to intercept them. I think that law enforcement should be able to intercept these messages, if they absolutely need to (as I say, perhaps requiring a court order would be a good measure - maybe the police should have to prove some reasonable basis on which they want to investigate someone, rather than just being able to do it to anybody).

>>126620920
>You are right here but having talked to my family (t.scargill child) recently I can see the tories picking up lots of votes from previous groups who didn't vote at all before.
Fair enough, yes many probably will vote Tory, but I still think there are lots of working class people who will still vote Labour - think of Liverpool as a prime example, that city would not vote Tory in a gajillion years.

>Fair enough. But my point was mainly that they do whatever the fuck they want anyway so they don't need new powers at all.
Do they? Again, do you mean GCHQ surveillance, or local police forces pressing charges against people on Twitter for saying they hate Muslims? Because they're two very different things. I support GCHQ being able to get into WhatsApp messages if they really have to (maybe they should require a court order); as for hate speech laws I'd love to see them relaxed (but that probably won't happen - lefties love them).

>>126622924
I find it fascinating how attitudes have changed on civil liberties over the past decade or so.

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>>126622687

The left vote is split because of remain, many ukip voters will vote Tory (thats 3.8 million voters BTW). The Tories can literally not loose the numbers will not allow it, labour will be lucky to come out with 100 seats.

First time gonna vote for labour, just to see if they can actually proceed with their manifesto for example eliminating student fee.

>>126622891
Be specific. If it means limiting children's access to porn, which is one of their proposals, then I support that.

As for "hate speech" stuff, Labour are just as strong on that as the Tories are, perhaps more so.

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>>126622919

>thinks left voters aren't cucks

mfw you are this delusional

>>126597647
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I0ncKPgglQ

>>126623184
What do you want to do about terrorists in our country mate? I would love to kick them out but that isn't going to happen is it? There was a time when Britain fucking hated the wogs, wasn't there? But that time has past, and IT'S NOT COMING BACK, and I can't do anything about that, can I?

Can you point out which part of my proposals you object to? Say GCHQ are required to get a court order every time they intercept some WhatsApp messages - why the fuck would you object to that? Is it because you are planning a terrorist attack yourself right now?

>>126611534
>crying about ad homs after calling others lefty whingebabies for having a different opinion to you
kys faggot

>>126623389
that's the easy bit. the hard bit is things like balancing the budget. that's never gonna happen, i wish both parties would drop the pretense, and realise it doesn't fucking matter as long as you grow.
the usa spent about 200 of it's 240 years running a deficit and it's gone on to take over the world

>>126620048
>The only reason people wanted Brexit
What the fuck would you know, Leaf?
People voted for many reasons. For many people immigration is simply the visible aspect of the loss of control we suffer under the EU. Obviously you can bring in a skills-based immigration system, you fucking mong. You even have one of those in Canada

>>126623926
I'm not going on about the minutae, i suppose i'm just commenting how the voices of people who spoke up for civil liberties have slowly disappeared over the years, and discussions i remember as a teenager (like the police being able to track your movement from your mobile phone signal) don't seem to matter to this generation.
I guess I was a bit tinfoil hattish in comparison in my youth.

>>126622924
>as for hate speech laws I'd love to see them relaxed
Hate speech laws, just like survellience laws, are a one way street. There will be no relaxing, only tightening.

We have no bill of rights in this country but there has always been a sense of "fair play" and living in a "free country" - which has been completely eroded in the last 15 years due to the "threat of terrorism".. Despite the actual threat levels compared to the bad days of the troubles being basically non-existent.

You are being quite disingenuous in your statements regarding their capabilities and mandate, but I suspect you already know that.

>>126623184
It's honestly kind of terrifying.

>>126623926
>If my grandmotha was a bike
Because your "proposals" are so far removed from the reality of the situation, it's not even an interesting thought experiment.

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>>126622898

This

If he, the day after the EU ref when he said "trigger article 50 now" and ran with it and not have the blarites coup, he would be prime minister... Labour are so out of touch with the working man its frankly a disgrace... they seem like the poncy ones... take it from me i know plenty of working class people (including myself) and the level of middle class arrogance that spills forth from their fucking faces is a joke from my labour supporting middle class friends

i cannot wait for the level of butblast when the torries come out with 350+ seats

>>126611236
How did you get the St. George's Cross as your flag?

>>126597647
>May is digging her own grave

No, Britain is.

>>126620570
>UKIP voters are saying "they've done their job now
Actually, no. Take a quick sweep around social media and you'll find that the UKIP vote to the Tories is merely a leant vote. Country before party, etc. Once the election is over all that support will go straight back to UKIP, especially when the Tories start to backslide on fishing rights in the EU deal, and probably fail to bring immigration down, fail to address rampant islamism. UKIP still has a use and UKIP voters know this. Im ordinarily a UKIP voter; will be voting Tory this time

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>>126625239

POO

>>126625271

yep. the torries have got one last go, they will get a massive majority but UKIP/Our Nige will be waiting in the wings ready to pounce if they don't sort the shit that u just mentioned out

its an odd state of affairs when the Tories will get a shit to of the poor vote... what a time to be alive

>>126624485
And it's used to bring in loads of low-skilled immigrants to undermine the wages of the population. rly maeks u tink

>>126597647
I doubt it. All manifesto pledges are out in the open. Labour has no more points to make. The only gift was the social care gaffe, but that's been somewhat reversed. Tories just need to focus on Labours £250bn in borrowing, £30bn more on welfare, uncontrolled immigration, no Brexit plan and their IRA-links and they are golden.

>>126598315
Because self-righteous labour voters attack everybody over it and most people just keep silent about it until they are in the polling booth.

>>126597647
If he wins I am leaving the country. It will be dead to me.

>>126597647
Why do gross british people still think that shit island even matters anymore?

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>>126626039

Fucking this

The level of delusion from the commie maomentum scum is palpable... my mouth waters with the idea of the buttblast they will experience.

>mfw

>>126626400
>mrw May wins

>>126602625
His Shadow Chancellor attended a rally with Stalinists, declared himself a "committed Marxist" and brought Mao's little red book into parliament. How many more hints do you need?

>>126626541
I don't want to live in neo-Venezuela.

Didn't the the scottish vote to stay in the UK with a slogan that said something like "pls stay" ?

You cant compare Trump to Corbyn at all

>>126626039
>i'm gonna put my kid 30k into debt because corbyn talked to a certain paddy 30 years ago
I've got a feeling no one cares about those things outside of the usual right wing echo chambers.

>>126626482
>>126626039
Imagine being this deluded.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/may/22/general-election-2017-theresa-may-social-care-fallout-politics-live

>>126622687
But that's exactly who I'm voting. Ukip have no chance

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>>126597825
We are shy corbys.we are legion.

>>126626739
A lot of people remember the IRA bombing lad.