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Arabs can't into civilizati-
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Who are you quoting? The Mesopotamians literally invented civilization. They're just been destroyed by their religion.
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>>126579337
With the sole exception being Saudi, every middle eastern country with a functioning civilization has only evolved into its current state due to straying away from their own culture and embracing western values to varying degrees.
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>>126579531
More like embracing western oilshekels
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>>126579337
Funny how everything in that entire city was engineered by Europeans/North Americans/Orientals and all manual labor done by Indians.
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Get out
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>>126579707
>all manual labor done by Indians

Just like America :)
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>>126579668
UAE is wildly successful by any measurement. It is no coincidence that women can walk around there alone, in western clothing. That they can drive. That alcohol is abundant, and so on. These are the opposite of Islamic values. Islamic countries only find success by abandoning their culture.
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>>126579337
All of those buildings were designed and built by foreigners.
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>>126579898
Great bait mate.

sage Slide thread

Having a dog fetch your newspaper in the morning does not mean that dogs invented the printing press.
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>>126579337
The Burj Khalifa is not an example of anything.

There are just 2 Arab companies that participated in its construction. The rest are all Western and East Asian.
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>>126579337
>strike it rich with black liquid under your sandbox
>pay foreigners to engineer and implement solutions to extract and refine
>use the profits to fund your country and hire foreigners to come in and design your cities

WE
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>>126579457
/thread

Islam has destroyed countless middle eastern cultures and permanently scarred the Arab race with stupidity and inbreeding.
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>>126580276

Literally Norway.
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>>126580106
> Burj Khalifa was designed by Adrian Smith, then of Skidmore, Owings & Merrill (SOM), whose firm. Hyder Consulting was chosen to be the supervising engineer with NORR Group Consultants International Limited chosen to supervise the architecture of the project.

> However, the labour issues during construction were controversial, since the building was built primarily by migrant workers from South Asia with several allegations of mistreatment.
> Several instances of suicides have been reported, which is not uncommon for migrant construction workers in Dubai despite safety precautions in place.
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>>126579337

When Arabs aren't chimping out about which pedophile prophet had the best waifu. They actually get their shit together and do some impressive work.
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>>126580557
In fairness, actual Middle Eastern architecture is gorgeous. But the modern cities are all designed by foreigners and built using slave labor. The locals just skim off the top and take all the credit
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>>126580400
Arabs were more uncivilized before Islam though
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>>126579337

Designed and engineered by western firms and built with indian slave labor.
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>>126579337
Sweden going arab cuck fanboy. Hahahah.
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>>126579337
When white people aren't being their usual savage selves and destroying the Middle East. The Middle East ends up better than Europe.

The reason white people are destroying themselves is because destruction is in their very nature. Since they can't destroy others they destroy themselves.

Prove me wrong faggots.
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>>126579531

i think you mean by avoiding/resisting american intervention

the more america has intervened in the muslim country, the shittier it is
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>>126580038

I've been to the UAE and it's awesome, but their wealth is still derived from oil and little else.

Dubai has some tax haven thingy going on, but that also became possible only through oil investments.
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>>126579457
The sumerians were not semitic though.
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>>126579337
Built with oil shekels. But I gotta give them credit for at least building something cool with it. They built an iconic city from the ground up.
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>>126580557
>Arabs built La Alhambra
>American education
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>>126580703

True, just wanted to point out that when they take a reprieve from a hardcore sectarian government they can make great things.
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>>126579337
whites designed it all and poo in the loo's build all that
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>>126579337
The only reason they have this is because of oil money. The Middle East will go back to being an irrelevant third world shithole after the oil runs out.
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>>126579337
>Designed by Americans
>Built by Koreans
>Financed by Arabs, based on western knowledge
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>>126579898
Natives never built America lmao.
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>>126579337
>saudi arabia
>US oil puppet state
>WE DID THIS BY AH SELFVES
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>>126581665
>american education
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>>126579337
>built by Euro and Anglo engineers and architects
>funded by Euro and Anglo oil money
>using Euro and Anglo technology
I see no Arab civilization there.
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>>126580797
>built with indian slave labor.
Indian labor is so bad, they had to recruit south american, east european, russian, middle eastern labor for the important shit.
POOjeets can only do so much.
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>MFW white architects designed it
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>>126579898
Tell me about the civilizations built in africa. oh wait...
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>>126581503
Nissan designed & bancrupted by Japanese & saved by an Arab
Apple designed & flourished by an Arab, ruined by white people who stole power & grown back to the top by the Arab who created it.
Cities, algebra, robotics, coffee, University, the pinhole camera
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>>126579337
IIRC you are charged like 20 euros for just going to the top of that tower.
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>>126582147
Egypt and Carthage

Dumb Amerishart
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>>126582454
>Egypt and Carthage
>black
pick one pls
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>>126579898
>imblying abbos can build anything or have ever made contributions to the world that isn't bannok, moccasins or dream catchers.
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>>126581250

I can't believe you went full WE WEZ
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>>126582542
the Zulu
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>>126579337
Couldn't have done it without white people.
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>>126579337
Arabs simply signed the checks for the cream of international construction firms to build things for them. Burj Khalifia was Skidmore Owings Merill, Burj Al Arab WS Atkins etc.
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>>126579337
I can't decide whether you're a shill who's trying the ol' divide and conquer by making people hate Sweden more, if you're trying to take the shitposting crown from Australia (potentially battling Canada) or if you're actually being serious. Whichever it is consider hooking a hosepipe to your car exhaust.
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>>126582689
any monuments, written records, inventions, etc?
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>>126579337
Without architects from around the world you would see there desert and some tents
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>>126582689
>Not invented wheel
>Civilization

pick one
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>>126582685
You're not white so I can see why you would be butthurt about this.
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>>126583184
I don't have a car
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>>126583243
>Without architects from around the world

Any from Poland?
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>>126582765
>>126583180

You think most Western organizations don't have Minorities or Arabs in positions of power?
Steve Jobs is Syrian.
The director of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory from 2001-2016 was Lebanese Charles Elachi. That division is responsible for the Voyager & the Mars missions among many others.
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>>126583220
I don't fucking know man, I just remember them from Civ V

spoonfeed yourself
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>>126583727
>using turn based strategy as source
kek
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> built by germans/swiss architects
> asian/east asian/south asian workers
> maintained by whites and asians

arabs can't do shit on their own, they actually spend billions every year to enable their locals to go abroad and learn something (becoming a pilot, doctor etc.) and practically nobody actually does it - most just take the money and then squander it

They are by far the most incapable of races, alike to niggers, and probably the only ones that you could call incredibly "lucky" because of their location+oil.
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>>126579898
S W E D E N
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>>126583243
>Implying architecture wasn't invented in the Middle East
>Implying there aren't Middle Eastern employees in those firms
>Implying Algebra & Geometry which are both necessary for architecture weren't invented in the Middle East
They also invented sailing
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>>126579337
Lets just pretend they didn't pay western countries to build their cities with slaves. They have the money, but they have shit for brains due to centuries of Islam and goat-fucking.
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>>126579337
wtf i love arabs now
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>>126579337
Then maybe you should go home, Achmed!
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>>126579337
Shit trucks
Aka, Trucks of feces.
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>>126579898
>no one ever understands it wouldn't be built without the guys in charge
gommunism doesn't build things
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>>126579337
>Be sand nigger
>Be lucky and realize you're sitting your ass on the world's biggest oil reserves
>Build your country with oil moneys hiring foreign engineers and labor
If it wasn't because of the oil, the Middle East would a gigantic poorer Pakistan.
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>>126581420
Based moroccan immigrant in lesser version of Netherland. Proud of your moorish ancestry aren't you ?
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>>126584501
I'm not an Arab
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>>126579707
Thread/
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>>126585397
Achmed just cause you have Sweden citizenship doesn't mean you aren't arab anymore
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>>126583220
"I was cool in high school!"
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a civilization is just by the prosperity of people has a whole, not just those that reside in metropolitan cities.
they still live in mudhuts in most of the arab world.
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Hahahaha i find it funny that this was posted by a swede.

That city was built with western money

I guess our cities run on arab oil though..
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>>126579337
Do they still have to truck out their sewage or have they managed to figure out how to pipe their shit out of their cities yet?
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>>126579337
They can pump money straight out of the ground. I look forward to seeing them run out of oil and what happens then.
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>>126581250
They Egyptians were genetically Coptic.
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>>126583717
Scientific research is as much the result of the individual that authors it, as it is of the society that enables it.

If these people would have remained in the Arab world, they would have wasted their talent because of the crappy social dynamic that exist there.

The Arab world doesn't mind technological adoption, but they shun scientific research.
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>>126579337
> with European architecture
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>>126582335
All of those things were origionally Indian m8. Arabs never invented anything. They just copied it.

Every day I think to myself how greatful I am to indians for inventing numbers. Also muslims fuck animals. Its disgusting.
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>>126583450
but you have a massive dildo on your bike seat
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People saying Islam ruined anything in pre-Islamic societies don't know shit about history. The sack of Baghdad is when the Muslim world went downhill. They Mongols fucked things up, the crusades were almost child play in comparison. But I don't expect the average 16 (18?) year old /pol/tard to use reason.

Funny thing is these same people act like women are irrational and guided by emotion, kek.
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>>126583619
There most likely are. Even Irish archictects designed some of those buildings and there are only 4 million of us.
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>>126586921
Why is it that for all non western civilizations you can point to one defining moment that ruined them forever and ever?

Wheras Europe has had plague after plague, war after war as well as famines, invasions and enslavement at the hands of foreingers and thats A okay?

The greatest war the world has ever seen was fought in Europe just 60ish years ago.
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>>126586921
>People saying Islam ruined anything in pre-Islamic societies don't know shit about history.

Almost all "Islamic" science was done by Persians.
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>>126579337
>flag
>Philippes can't build th-
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>>126581250
WE
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>>126579457
mesopotamians were not arabs.
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>>126587266
its different for you guys this time.. within 40-50 years (probably sooner) native peoples will be a minority in their own lands. Between the unending influx of people from incompatible cultures (that breed like rabbits) and your own declining birth rates that a below replacement levels. Not to mention the seeming inability to be able to address the issue in any meaningful way because of your own current destructive and backwards cultural narrative thats being relentlessly pushed on you.
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>>126579457
>The Mesopotamians literally invented civilization

No they lived in a shitty area where they had to build everything out of stone. Many civilizations used wood and functioned completely well but archaeology and anthropology cannot sufficiently gather knowledge about those people because we use geological information. This is why archaeology sucks and we essentially know nothing about history.
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>>126588151
>Fertility is below replacement
Only for the cuck nations. Its grand here.
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>>126588533
nope france has you beat and they are still below replacement and id imagine that their 7-8% muslim would have something to do with that.
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>>126588533
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_European_Union

scroll to Population shifts and have a look at fertility rates. you need AT LEAST 2.0 and thats just to replace the current pop.

also i dont imagine this chart takes into account the native population.

nervous yet?
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this is not just europe either. its representative of the entire western world. The problem europe has though is the MASSIVE immigration happening and the way these fuckers breed.
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Does anyone else wonder what will happen to them when their oil runs out? Will their society end?

Think about it, most of their comes from oil and their budget is decided depending on oil prices.
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>>126581250
HOL UP
WE WUZ INVENTORZ OF CIVILIZATION N SHIEEEEEEEEEEEEET?
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>>126579457
>Mesopotamians
werent arabs tho, u fucking nigger
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>>126583297
Next thing you'll say is how pic related was blond and had blue eyes.
Fuck off Varg, you welfare leeching loser.
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>>126579337
Let's see
>foreign money
>foreign craftsmanship
>foreign slave workers
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>>126590229

They will run out of money long before then. The Chinese boom in the mid 2000's opened up alot of non OPEC exploration and those countries aren't cutting off production simply because Chinese demand is down and so is the price of oil. The U.S. is producing as much oil as Saudi Arabia and fracking proved to be way more resilient than the Arab states bet on when they tried to flood the market
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>>126590229
not any more

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Dubai
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>>126585026
Relax my algerian friend, the Moroccan is right tho, Moccarab architecture is very pleasing to the eye.
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You realise Arabs are just tanned whites, right? Just like Nordcucks are just snownigger versions of Central Europeans.

Islam and Inbreeding has held arabs back though.
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>>126583727
lmao i like this quality of posting my brownskinned friend keep it up
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>>126591017

Oh look, another alt righter than knows nothing about history or economics
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>>126579337
Sandniggers can't use oil money to pay people trained in white construction techniques to build a facsimile of civilizati-

fixt
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>>126579707
Also all their wealth comes from selling oil to the rest of the world... they literally do nothing themselves.
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>>126579337
>hire whites to manage and build everything the civilization
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>>126589682
We have a fertility rate of 2 as well as vast numbers of Poles and Brits coming here.

We are fine.
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>>126579457
mesopotamia got fucked by Persia, not by themselves. they were pretty fucking civilized until those shitheads came along. Persia existed until the Turks fucked the whole thing up... Mudslims shits fucked up everything.
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>>126584317

>interger/algebra

Actually Asian Indian. That knowledge was almost destroyed by Muslim book burning if not for western scholars recovering the information. There has been great enlightenment in the middle east, no doubt about that! But islam completely suffocated that enlightenment. Even liberals know this. Its mentioned in Cosmos by negro degrasse tyson
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>>126579531
>>126581150
Those countries were a piece of shit anyways. Actually the British Empire made those areas modern back in the days. Secularism was good for those shitty countries, up until they were decolonized and started fucking up their own systems by themselves, only then the wars came.
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>>126586921

The Muslim world didn't go downhill, the Arab world did. The Ottomans did very well once they took control of Anatolia and held command over the world's major trade routes.

What did the Muslim world in was the European age of sail, once the overland routes to the east became obsolete, it was all down hill spiral of failure from there (times get hard, people fall back to conservatism, progress halts, times get harder because no one is adapting to the changing times etc.)
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>>126586643
Lel the mental gymnastics on you. West uses minorities it's thanks to muh superior society
UAE creates a more advanced country than the West it's due to muh superior workers.
Before the Middle East was sacked they invented pretty much everything
>>126586745
Good job Potato Nigger
Easily verifies that Middle Easterners invented all that stuff before the Indians.
Til Babylonians, Sumerians, Egyptians, Mesopotamians, Phoenicians, & Persians are Indians.
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>>126579337
> Paying Brits and Americans to run your shit is civilizati-
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>>126579337
All built by the west with western technology once we'd discovered a use for the oil that had been within their grasp for over a thousand years
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>>126592079
None of those guys are muslims. Islam makes people retarded.
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>>126591502
id love to believe that i really would and i hope for your sake im wrong.
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>>126580557
This, Middle-easterners are inherently creative, I know I'll get flack for this
>t. Ahmed
But I mean just look at what early Islamic and pre-Islamic culture was really like, sure today they're fucked up because they're all Inbred and that's irreversible and their religion is pretty shite in its present state but besides that business they were good philosophers scientists and architects.
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>>126592654

read

>>126591998

You can see the same conservative cycle of decline in the U.S. Southern regions
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Everything seen and most of what you can't see in the post photo is a result of scientific and technological advances shared with them from western civilization.

You're welcome Arabia.
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>>126592517
Our population is increasing by 40,000 people or about 1% a year. Pic related is their ethnic breakdown. We have also made it more difficult for Africans to come here since then.

South america has discovered they can come here as "students" so there are probably more brazilians now then in my chart.
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>>126579337

They're just a little behind that's all.
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>>126593310
NGO'S are transporting thousands of migrants from Libya to Sicily weekly. last i read 4000+ arrived last week or something.
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>>126593310
oh wtf i thought you were italian...

time for bed lol
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>>126593810
We put them in camps and dont give them cash so they refuse to come here. There is no refugee crises.
Germany has an aging, pensions, inflation and banking crises.

We are younger, our population is growing, the cost of a pint is being jacked up from week to week and our banking crises now appears to be over. The banks will be made private again soon.
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>>126593970
I thought people were just fucking with me when they mistook my for Italy..lel
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>>126594076

Shitaly.
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>>126580719
Why are you so cucked, Sweden ?

What is it you love so much about Islam, and what is it you so fucking hate about your own culture ?
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>>126579337
They are not even human,LOL.
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>>126594173
lel
dont be hating man, their ancestors founded your capital which you then subsequently allowed to be cucked beyond recognition.
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>>126579337
They didn build it... Canadian Engineer built it with and Arab paid for it with US oil money and slaves.
What success when a feudal theocracy build a beautiful city at the expense of everyone around.
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>>126594825
their oil runs the west (more of a luck based thing though but i had to say it)
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>>126594509

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3yon2GyoiM&t=389s
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>>126595559
haha great scene.. kinda explains what is happening in most of your major cities right now! Only with pakis and sand niggers ;P
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>>126591193
oh look, a fucking edgy natsoc who probably hasn't read a book in his life

cucks like you give natsoc a bad name with your ''white power''
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>>126579337
>on
looks only good from afar
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>>126579898
BACK ON TOP
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>>126581136
you have to go back ahmed
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>>126582454
Carthage was a colony of Phoenicia, so it was was more like a near eastern civ, and egypt was also near eastern
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The arabs were probably a decent civ before islam/incest
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>>126579337
All of that was built by white or asian people
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>>126579337
>Luck into a shit ton of money
>Pay westerners to bring in civilisation
>Whole city feels ghostly because there's no actual businesses there just a bunch of people flying through
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>>126579707

a lot of that was built by Australians
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>>126581829
Because Pajeet kept taking shit while building the 160th floor. What is the terminal velocity of a free falling poo?
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>>126602035

> gets paid millions so he could end up getting educated properly and contribute to his country which is in dire need of qualified people

> can't even calculate physics 1 stuff from the top of his head

you guys are a disgrace, carried by oil money and hopefully soon to vanish, can't wait till either poos or chinks wipe you out from the map for good

it's not like you know how to use the weapons the US sells to you anyway
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>>126602483
What is a rhetorical question?
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>>126602896

gz ahmed, you learned how to talk like a jew, too bad you don't know how to fly your own planes, use your high tech computers or could employ your own people to treat you in your hospitals


cu and bb loser , have fun fucking some goats in the desert
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>>126603796
How's Bucephalus doing?
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>>126603796
>>126604015
Since you're too shy to answer, I take it you're the bottom in the relationship. I figured, since you sounded too retarded to even fuck a horse, but just smart enough to be fucked by one. I'm happy for you.
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>>126579337
There's no doubt about it, Muslim arabs are the strongest culture on the planet right now, that's why we must oppose them. So they don't replace us.
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>>126579898
Slaves only made up 15% of the economic output in the south, and only when being forced to do it and taught every step. Natives built jack shit nothing. USA is white man's society through and through.
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>>126581250
>If the hair of mummies is blond, then why are the black hair statue's eyes blue?

Checkmate atheists.
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>>126579337
>flag
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>>126604015
Sex with animals is proof that there is no God, surely a vengeful wrathful God that smited people for pulling out, touching a box, and being gay would take up problem with this? surely it would manifest itself into some obvious Biblical smackdown..

but no, people keep doing it. They cum inside a baby horse's anus and play with dog dicks and that's ok. but talk smack about a bald man and Jesus will summon bears to rip your limbs off. Or win a bet against god's Chosen and God may possess one of them to murder your people and rob them until the Jew can pay up his end of the bargin, that's holy. Offering up your daughters for gang rape is ok. Fucking your brother's widow is ok. but try to cooperate in peace and make a centralized government for the purpose of efficient construction? That's a smiting, for your whole civilization. Gay sex? Your city has to burn now. Looking at burning city? That implies you miss the gay sex city. God literally forbids you to miss your home of the last 20 years because of your neighbor's lifestyle choices. Don't even look at it. God is gonna medusa your ass for that shit. But taking horse dick is ok.

Fuck me, I don't understand christian morality at all anymore.
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>>126607832
Hey whatever floats your goat. I was replying to a goatfucking insult based on a meme coming from an actually proven horsefucker (that retarded autistic mountain kike). Projecting so much, that was rich.
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>>126579337
>planned city built by white man
>every function and built in this city done by Indians
>Arab civilisation
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>>126581215

>less than 5% of gdp is from oil revenue

gulf nations are investment geniuses that built up an oasis of vast wealth in a desert. your probably some immigrant east europe trash. stay jelly you pig humper
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>>126586921

about 96% of literature in the middle was destroyed and the region was depopulated. the euphrates was turned an unnatural blue from the amount papyrus that was dumped in there by the mongols. following that you had 600 years of ottoman colonial rule and then a brief stint of western colonialism

>b..but muh islam!
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>>126579337
ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING
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>>126609309
You forgot
>funded by white oil money
Once oil is done you'll see Arab "civilization" fall apart. Saudis will go back to herding camels.
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>>126579337

So... why is your country so hellbent on taking in refugee's when the country of the pic you posted won't take in those same people- who are of their own?

You make the arguement that they can't build civlizations yet you cuck yourself into taking care of their excess.

Nice going.
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>>126590229

Does anyone else wonder what will happen to western civilization when the pig farts run out? Will their society end?

Think about it, most of their comes from sniffing pig anus and their budget is decided depending on swine indigestion.

>btw less than 6% of dubai's gdp is form oil
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>>126610307
>Burning of Library of Alexandria
>Siege of Baghdad by Genghis
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>>126579337
Bell Curve
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>>126594339
Its probably an iranian expat who thinks hes not arab.
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>>126610739
And this gets exactly to the point.

It is deliberately forced degeneration.

One is intollerant and just forces others out while crying persecution.
The other is FORCED to alter itself to placate that which it KNOWS instinctively to be unproductive.
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>>126610739
>who are of their own
Not really though.
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>>126610966

you certainly didnt make things better, kebi. you had one job to resurrect the al sharq civilizations and all the reasons to succeed. yet ottomans mired themselves in squabbling over petty eurinals and sipping tea all day pretending to be persians. instead the ottomans stagnated the region with imperialism for centuries
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>>126603796
Why are you wasting time on this waste of space? Musk is taking us off oil dependency so in the long term they are fucked hard. Camel to lambo to camel, lol, while we push civilization forward.
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>>126580400
If Islam never existed the Arabs would be just another small tribe of semites that would most likely have been wiped out by the Turks or Mongols. None of the classical middle eastern civilizations were Arabs, they were confined to their desert peninsula for thousands of years before Muhammad.
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>>126583717
>he thinks Syrian and Albanese are Arabs

Oh my god what a faggot. Hey guys. Come look at what a colossal faggot this faggot is being.
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>>126611301

They are still of Islam.
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>>126579337
Without the oil shekels they would be nothing and when it ends they will go back to nothing.
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>>126611481
>stagnated the region with imperialism for centuries
After the 9th Padişah everything went to hell, yes, what is your point? Such is the life in the zone, when the glorious lineage is severed once it is gone forever.

>>126611574
>Muskfag
>A leaf
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>>126594339
He's not Swedish.
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>>126604015

wow economic exploitation and vapid pop culture is the only thing keeping western primitives from descending back into the cave
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>>126612213

they didnt fall, they simply failed to grasp the economic revolution europe embraced by the discovery of coal. advances we could have made if the ottomans hadnt kept everyone down, demanding taxations and maximum crop yields.

meanwhile europe no longer waits on seasonal agrarian outputs and can burn the same energy in just one week and frees up 90% of its population from farm work. ottomans were by far the biggest success failure of the middle east. what a waste
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>>126580719
Hell no! The Arabs acquired the civilization of the Byzantines and Persians. The people in the middle East and North Africa didn't call themselves "Arabs" back then.
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>>126612825
>they didnt fall, they simply failed to grasp the economic revolution europe embraced by the discovery of coal.
You are perfectly correct but I stopped reading there.
Before anything Ottoman was a theocracy, Suleiman the 10th was a weak father, he raised a drunkard of a son. And right after this man took upon the mantle of the absolute rulers and Caliphate, we observe a time period where viziers and bureaucrats claim the ruling aspect. Which was supposed to remain within the Monarchy. I wonder why.

Conclusively the empire, and its ideals got corrupted. Surely Ottoman Empire have missed innumerable economical, scientific and organizational trains. But it hardly meant anything given that the lineage of rulers and the set of values that formed and nurtured the grand empire was lost and to be never recovered again.
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>>126606615
Egyptians would shave their body hair and use wigs.

I'm not saying they weren't swarthy Mediterraneans, but how their hair is depicted in statues says very little about their natural hair.
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>>126579337
>tall glass and steel buildings in the middle of the desert is what civilisation is
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>>126614309
Designed by Westerners, built by Poo-in-the-loos.
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>>126614122
Wgyptians disnt have afros nuff said
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>>126579337
Fuck Muslims and fuck Brown people
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>>126581250
WE
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>>126613781

vain pedigrees is not what made the ottomans great. economics is an overplayed card but youll find its hard to argue everything else derives from material reality. the aspirations to create and the access to raw resources to create and the education to cooperate with skilled labor to create is what makes a civilization. otherwise your just a nation of sheep herders ruled by an almighty grand and glorious king. these things have to cultivated and preserved through generations. the mongol invasions destroyed that, but the ottomans had nearly a thousand years to rebuild it. they did the exact opposite
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>>126582651
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Meanwhile in the EU the nations hosting migrants are struggling to find a reasonable solution to the problem of refugee child brides. The issue arrises that if they are married in their home country, they are seen in the eyes of the human rights act as a martial spouse, and there it would be in violation of that act to separate them, even though quite often the age of the married girl is lower even than the age of consent in the host country.

Outraged Dutch Labour MP Attje Kuiken said: "A 12-year-old girl with a 40-year-old man - that is not a marriage, that is abuse.

"We're talking about really young children, girls 12, 13 years old. I want to protect these children."

Denmark, the Netherlands and Germany are most affected with the level of pregnant migrant teens now in their thousands as families attempt to marry them off in the refugee camp to spare them from exploitation and poverty.
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>>126613726

go hump your sister you pig fucker. you will not divide us. we are not arab, but we prefer them to you. persians, carthaginians, babylonians, egyptians, umayyads and all of our achievements are one from the same. our civilization comprises many nations and many variegated races throughout history and islam is our historical cultural pillar. we arent going to abandon our heritage just because of a bunch crooked tooth inbreds sneer at us.
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>>126579898

America would be NOTHING without native american mound-engineering technologies and structural innovations. This is a fact. It would be worse than Africa.
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>>126615232
Exactly.
Did you know Mehmed the 2nd have actually designed artillery pieces that were to be used against Constantinople. His successor have made the Ottoman army the most modern army of their time with purified engineering solutions. And the 9th made the Ottoman filthy rich with the spoils from Egypt.

It is not a matter of vain pedigree, it is monarchy/theocracy. If the leader of the country is not the utmost pinnacle of human character, the state will turn into dogshit, alas it did. The economical and technological advancements are also subject to the character and preferences of the Sultan.
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>>126579337
Goatfucker pls
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>>126581136

Prove yourself right
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>>126579337
The Burj Khalifa is a beautiful building but the office space is near completely vacant. Same with the rest of the sky scrapers. Rumor has it all the buildings were constructed using dirty Russian mob money.

>better to have an empty skyscraper in Dubai then piles of unspendable cash
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Let's talk about education in the Arab world.

The majority is shit. Only the crop of the creme gets a good education. The majority of the population rarely even see above 6th grade, and they are not focused to become more educated about anything.
It's easier to control a flock of sheep than scientists...

Also here is a nice number: Spanish books and other European scientific papers are being translated in hundereds of languages, about 25 million different books overall are translated in spain for all the world.

Arab countries does not produce this kind of magnitude of literature.

Meaning? = They will be left behind because their shit-religion and shit civilsation doesn't hold education in any regard.
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>>126579457
Arabs (as in middle eastern) are not the problem, there where legit awesome civilizations in the middle east like Summerians, Phoenicians, Parthia, Persia, Assyrians, even the fucking Cananites were based once, problems came with Islam and their stupidity
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>>126585397

You effectively are
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>>126610799

That doesn't mean much. Think how many service jobs and how much government income (and thus jobs) is reliant on that.

Over 50% of their exports are oil and gas.

No it won't descend into poverty but it'd be end of the end of the line of their wealth and power.
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Tfw you can bleach every race of girl except arab because of their social mores.
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>>126581136
Ok I'll bite Ahmed.
If middle east is so great why dont you guys develop superior weapons to defend yourself against dem evl wyt ppl?

The red pill is: the ancient civilizations of the middle east were at the forefront of the world in every respect. Once you embraced islam, you killed your own human spirit. Even places such as Iran were destroyed, their people becoming slaves to a dogmatic book. You went from having the greatest libraries in the world to having the tallest minarets. You wasted your opportunity for greatness.
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>>126615701
>inbreds
Really? You are talking about Arabs where inbreeding is part of their culture.

At the same time, inbreeding has only been legalized in most parts of the West after you cousin fuckers started pouring into the civilized world. "Because inbreeding is part of your culture and it would be horribly racist for us to prevent this".

I know a few child doctors about the effects of inbreeding in the Muslim immigrant communities, thinking they would have a PC answer that it wasn't that bad...NO! They were very clear that the Muslims communities suffered severely from birth defects and deaths.
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>>126615461
Cahokia caused the complete ecological breakdown of the region through overhunting and deforestation. It is not an impressive achievement.
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>>126616313
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>>126582335
>Apple designed & flourished by an Arab,
Steve Jobs was of Syrian and Swiss ancenstry. Syrians aren't really Arabs lol, and even so his dad pulled a (((google))) on his mom and ran away from responsobility.

Wozniak was the brains behind apple. Steve short changed him on the very first order too. Not a strong case for moral or scientific genius either way lol
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>>126616917

>6% gdp is oil
>naw dey still need oil i bet

looks like the bacon grease finally leaked into your circuitry. go hump a horse now
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>>126579337
>Skyscraper designed by Western company:

The tower was designed by Skidmore, Owings and Merrill (SOM), who also designed the Willis Tower (formerly the Sears Tower) in Chicago and the One World Trade Center in New York City.

>Built by cheap Indian, Bangladeshi and Pakistani labour. Labour managed by Western and Asian high-skilled Labour.

Literally every brick and every feature in Dubai has been put there by a non-local.
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>>126581665
its the UAE you fucking idiot
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>>126617615

>Wow our economy is 80% healthcare, governement jobs, service jobs and construction, it's like we don't even need any sorts of industry at all.

Your low IQ is showing mudskin.
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>>126616684

you really should start verifying the cursory 'research' you do by reading online pamphlets from shariatakeover dot com because thats the only source. thanks for giving yourself away tho

isnt it sad that you people are mired in strange rumors and weird superstitions from conspiracy websites yet the nerve to asperse to others a lack of education
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>>126607832
Do a quick search on the penalty for bestiality in the bible. The penalty for it is death.
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>>126579337
A whole country build by poo in loos
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>>126616313
Mehmed the 2nd needed a Hungarian Christian to build those canons.

The moment the Europeans learned about gunpowder they started to built the most advanced canons in the world. Why? Because the technology to build church bells and canons were the same.

What did Muslims use instead of church bells? Having a bloke scream at the top of his lungs that it was time to pray. Yeah! that's going to help advance your civilization.
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>>126617705
>5% local population
>barely enough to fill government positions and others required by law to be filled by locals
>expects locals to work as bricklayers
Yeah let's bring poo-in-loos to run the government and military, and we can just lay bricks to make this anon happy.
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>>126580719
Arabs were a minority in the middle east 1600 years ago.
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>>126616917
The whole world is in for a roller coaster ride once there is limited amounts of oil.
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>>126579898
>We wuz slaves n shit
>Therefor we built America
The Chinks have a better claim than the blacks, at least they built the railroad which was actually important for the growth of the nation. Paid for by whites, designed by whites and used by whites to great effect of course.
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>>126617211

inbreeding is not prevalent in the al sharq but fucking your sister is totally common in the west. maybe im wrong tho. i used to believe half of all western births came from pigs, but now i know that figure is greatly exaggerated :)
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>>126617603
Nice meme but Apple was not a successful company when Wozniak worked there
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>>126583717
Levantine Christians are quite intelligent and civilised, and cannot be compared to Muslim's. Tell me, why are Lebanese Christians so over represented in business around South America yet Lebanese muslin are literally scum tier in Australia? Face it, Islam made you stupid
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>>126579337
>the city that only exists to serve the rich
Seriously, it has no other reason to exist. There's no natural resources to exploit, there's no other industry other than service industry, hell they don't even have cable factories. It just is.

You don't call that a civilization, you call that a temporary settlement.
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>>126579337
OIL.
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>>126579457
Mesopotamians were Nordic not sand niggers.
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>>126618516
I believe animal fucking is much more common in the Muslim world than inbreeding. I've seen dudes banging mules and goats myself on FLIR in Iraq and Afghanistan. Always made for a great time in the TOC.
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>>126618516
Unfortunately inbreeding in Muslim communities is not a joke. Who in the West do you think pays for all these birth defects, low iq children and mental problems caused by Muslim inbreeding? That's right. The native communities where having sex with your family members is (rightfully) seen as a taboo.
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>>126618604
biggest clock in the world is in mecca
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>>126618218
> Having a bloke scream at the top of his lungs that it was time to pray. Yeah! that's going to help advance your civilization.
What? Did analog electronic devices was found in, lets see, 16th century?

Nigger, without the Winged faggots and literally the entire alliance of the Christians, Europe would fall under Ottoman boots. You know this, you know how barely the central Europe is spared from the Ottoman rule and you keep mistaking tech level of centuries. I hope they are paying you well.

>>126612825
Thanks for the noice discussion m8.
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>>126579337
>Lightshows and pools=Civilization
Back to plebbit Swedenigger
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>>126617903

>construction? no way will that build anything that produces an economic output

industry from what raw materials? what capital and what skilled labor pool and for what market that isnt an upward climb? the gulf states are investment economies and are not oil based. the gulf shieks are fiscal geniuses, you are a jersey mike subs manager with pork breath :)
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>>126579337
heh the barf caliper dosnt have a sewage system, they use trucks to take away the sewage

so lemme finish that sentence for ya OP

ARABS CANT INTO CIVILIZATION
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>>126579337
>Dig wealth out of the ground
>Get people to build shit

>we civilized now
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>>126592285

>al-jabr, abu kamil, al kharki, omar khayyim, sharif al din, al-kashi werent muslim

eating pork anus apparently makes you actually retarded
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Resources and manpower makes good civilizations.

Every society in history who had those two for enough time eventually built some dope stuff.

Right now Arabs build some dope stuff because they sell oil.
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>>126620168
Fake news

>flag
But I'm sure you prefer pic related anyway
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>>126619474

my bad i forgot. im on vacation here and enjoying all the women with beer bellies and its hard to stay focused. would like to visit turkey one day
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>>126580703

>slave labor

America And Europe are responsible for the worst sweatshops in the world. Deplorable conditions, handcuffs at labor stations, withheld paychecks, family threats, tightening deadlines and demands. Dubai has the same problems but the rampancy of western capitalist sweatshops, labor fields and death mines around the world make it not even comparable
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>>126618837
>There's no natural resources to exploit

>>126620340
>Dig wealth out of the ground

Really makes you thonk
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>>126618942

>"oink oink. no you fuck pigs"

aww cute. pigs are haram in the middle east but theyre totally a fetish in the west! : )
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>>126619108

west = stds

not go rub your tiny balls on some herpes
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>>126619474

Really, and thats why you consistently lost every war you've engaged in for the last couple of centuries right? Because roach is so stronk? lmao. You'd be decimated before the summer was through, and Erdogan would wind up being dragged through the streets and stabbed in the ass.
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>>126618356
>1600 years ago
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>>126581899
>>126583243
>>126584059
>>126586708
Reminder that the greatest architect of our generation (objectively speaking) is an Arab woman


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaha_Hadid


/pol/ stumped. How will you ever recover?
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>>126621734

even cooler that her last means iron
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>>126620867
>would like to visit turkey one day
Well I don't like beachline because too much degeneracy, but we have lots of natural wonders. Get a security personel if you can afford though, this place is not safe for gullible foreigners.

>>126621514
>leaf
>1 posts by this ID
>can't differentiate between past and present
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>>126581136

a fucking leaf
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>>126621734
Based cyberpunk architecture
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Middle eastern civilizations were very advanced and impressive except for nomadic bedioun arabs, though the ghassanid and lakhmids were very advanced as well.
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>>126621968

nah i should be alright i served in the algerian special intervention group for about a decade and i know how to blend in. i speak a little turkic but not much. really want to see the byzantine ruins
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>>126579337
that isn't civilization, civilizations develop naturally, from societies. That entire city was simply forced in to existence with lots and lots of money, and it's one giant monument to hubris and excess.
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>>126580269
sauce??
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>>126579707
This. The Arabs haven't done anything but sit on top of our oil.
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>>126622600
>really want to see the byzantine ruins
Be quick then. There may not much remain to see as Erdoğan is going stronk still.
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>>126621734
tfw i stayed in an air bnb in one of the buildings directly across from the soho towers in beijing. think its actually in that photo
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>arabs has no culture
>sweden is arab
oh wait!
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kek , where did she study AHMED?she studied in London , not in the University of fucking sand niggers )
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>>126621734
>Typical amorphous postmodern crap

Who gives a shit Ahmed. Go guck a goat
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>>126622790
>our oil
back to mining muh oil nigger.
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>>126619474
>Nigger, without the Winged faggots and literally the entire alliance of the Christians, Europe would fall under Ottoman boots.

You LARPing Greeks were only able to advance a little bit into the weakest, most backward part of Europe. We were hardly even aware of your existence in Western Europe, being busy with conquering the world and all that stuff.
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>>126579337
Trillions in oil money can buy you all the foreign materials, engineers, architects and labor you need.
Have a look at almost anywhere else in the middle east and it's dirt huts with people fucking goats and toddlers.
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>>126579337

These mega cities are all designed, planned and built by whiteys from the West, paid for with free oil bux.
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>>126621968

LAND SYSTEMS-
Tanks: 2,445
Armored Fighting Vehicles (AFVs): 7,550
Self-Propelled Guns (SPGs): 1,013
Towed-Artillery: 697
Multiple-Launch Rocket Systems (MLRSs): 811

AIR POWER-
Total Aircraft: 1,018
Fighters/Interceptors: 207
Fixed-Wing Attack Aircraft: 207
Transport Aircraft: 439
Trainer Aircraft: 276
Helicopters: 455
Attack Helicopters: 70

NAVAL POWER-
Total Naval Strength: 194
Aircraft Carriers: 0
Frigates: 16
Destroyers: 0
Corvettes: 9
Submarines: 12
Coastal Defense Craft: 34
Mine Warfare: 11

I dont think anyones worried about anything. Any western country could easily cripple your airforce and then make short work of your armor.
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>>126623352

architecture is an art and you dont teach art. zaha hadid is just a preview of a potential that could be if not for you freedom loving land occupiers destroying the region every chance you get
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>>126619474
>What? Did analog electronic devices was found in, lets see, 16th century?

No, Christians hadn't invented those devices yet for you. So you backward Muslims had to use your own voice.
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Funny how the majority of population in the UAE are americans and europeans.
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>>126623659
His child brides bread is of such low quality that it is better to be worn as armor than to eat.
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>>126623659

funny you should mention that given that cambodia and thailand declared national emergencies because western sex tourists are flooding in to fuck toddlers
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>>126623633
Yep.
Sure, you are unaware of what is happening in the East side.
Who cares about the Silk Road, access to the Land of Poo, Mediterranean trade lines, ikr?

>Hey what if there was a company which would rule the world because it connects poo and anglo
>Nah m8 you are on too much coke

>>126623899
Here is your (You)
>http://www.businessinsider.com/these-are-the-worlds-20-strongest-militaries-ranked-2016-4
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>>126623659
you better appreciate what i just included, you dont know what kind of eyesore i have just seen
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>>126623899
>Tanks: 2,445
>Armored Fighting Vehicles (AFVs): 7,550
Only in your dreams, leafman. Your army is a 30k canucks meme
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>>126621201
>Really makes you thonk
It should, Spain annually translated more books into English than the entire arab world has combined for the last 20 years.


Not counting peace prizes, muslims make up 23% of the world population while only holding FIVE nobel prizes, compared to Jews who make up 0.2% of the population and hold 189 of the nobel prizes (not counting the useless peace prizes that are handed out for nothing, like malala saying women should have a right to education -- something 99% of the western world already holds as an inherent truth).

Grab any useful metric of human development/achievement and the muslim world is still in the 5th century. It's pathetic.
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>>126624475

excuse me but no that is a livestock animal that eats pork anus and fucks its sister mom.. oh wait youre right that is a westerner!
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>>126622933
Those Byzantine ruins are apart of your Anatolian heritage. Genetic test have shown that the average Turk has more Slavic admixture than Turkic, and that most Turkctoaches, especially those in western turkey are mostly Anatolian. About 75 to 90 percent in fact.
Turks are self loathing Anatolian's. You're as cucked as those levantine Arab nationalists, who prefer to identify with Saudi Arab culture and history than their own glorious pre Islamo-Arab history. Sad
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>>126624380
>http://www.businessinsider.com/these-are-the-worlds-20-strongest-militaries-ranked-2016-4

and look at number 2 and 1. You just went off about he we (the west) would be all under "le ottoman rule" if you so desired. Your countrys tiny military would be swamped, and your child molesting men humiliated, AGAIN, if you attempted it.
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>>126582454

Carthage was a phoenician colony. Fugg off!
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>>126624380
>Who cares about the Silk Road, access to the Land of Poo, Mediterranean trade lines, ikr?

Yes, who cares about that when you go directly to the source.
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>>126625097

smelly gap tooth britians went to one of the richest countries in the world and reduced it to the poorest after 200 years of plunder and rape
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>>126579337
>Arabs can't into civilizati-
So your definitioin of a civilization is a few high rises? Weak.
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>>126625399
They were always shit. What did they invent besides the zero (how prophetic) and wootz aka Damascus steel (Yes, you backward fuckers stole one of their most significant invention).

Also I haven't missed the irony of Muslims in the West who fled backward violent hellholes, defending said hellhole and attacking the civilization who has been so kind to them.
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>>126625399
>Aurangzeb's Deccan campaign saw one of the largest death tolls in South Asian history, with an estimated 4.6 million people killed during his reign.

Yeah those Muslims brought such a period of peace and prosperity with them.

Sorry your mom is a camel and your dad is a hairy tent dweller.
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>>126624963
Why do arabs have a fascination with assholes?
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>>126626006

India was good way back when but it's been shit for a long time, certainly since long before the Anglos came.
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The Arabs?
First they lost the war to the Muslims and got fucked by them
Then they got fucked by the Turko Mongols
Then they got fucked by the Ottoman Turks
Then they got fucked by the west
And now, their fucking themselves by wasting their money on the very first thing that fucked them in the first place: Islam
No wonder their fucking goats today
What a waste of human potential
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>>126581150
The pic in the OP is Dubai. I lived there. Dubai is one of the most Americanized gulf states. It's also one of the most successful.
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>>126579337
>Engineered by whites
>Waste has to be trucked out of the city
Romans were ahead of them thousands of years ago.
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>>126624646
>nobel prizes
Sorry, are we talking about the same little prize that Obama won? Yeah, it's a shame we don't produce cucks like him.
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>>126626006

the value of civilization goes beyond science and the indians certainly had one of the most interesting cultures. which of course was destroyed by you peaceful humanitarians
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>>126621734
>was an Iraqi-born British architect.
lmao
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>>126623659
>Have a look at almost anywhere else in the middle east and it's dirt huts

Wtf it looks almost as good as Dubai
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>>126626006

yes we should be grateful for the invasions, tortures, proxy wars, government toppling and the monthly muslim hate week. 30k bombs in 2016 alone and 4million dead muslims in just the last decade. angry islam critics torching mosques and rational islam skeptics executing muslim families in their homes.

the west is a death culture. the glorification of violence and normalization of war is what makes your culture "exceptional”

im just on vacation. but it stinks here and there are people fucking dogs on the street. im ready to leave now
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>>126627400
Wtf I like Riyadh now
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>>126626198

why dont westerners wash theirs?
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>>126627400
Tiny oil-less Bahrain.
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ever thought about how fast this spot will go to shit if their oil production slows down?
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>>126627400
"Less Americanized" Abu Dhabi
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>>126627018
Yeah, he won the nobel prize which I acknowledged is shit and excluded from the statistics I quoted.

>Arab reading comprehension
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>>126627864

Kek
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Hey aryan shitskins

SUCK MY BIG FAT ARAB COCK
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>>126624646

nobel prize? is that some kind of pig fucking trophy westerners give each other? no thanks
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>>126580557
moors are not arabs
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>>126627400
Even my humble little town isn't too shabby.
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I've never heard anyone say Arabs couldn't create civilizations. It isn't even true that niggers can't make civilization. They're just not good at it. And Islam is the bane of the middle east. Without it they could have done so much.
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>>126579337
american architect
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>>126579898

The picked cotton. They didnt build anything.
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>>126624964
Well straya I'm one of the few who actually likes Byzantine heritage of my soil. I think Byzantine was be best Rome, it sucks that it was corrupted when my ancestors came along. It is even more unfortunate that because of the religious crash, we barely have been able to utilize the ancient culture. Politically, it had to be removed which is a shame really.
>About 75 to 90 percent in fact.
Genetically, I don't think so Tim. Turks have populated Anatolia in great numbers, and for centuries we prospered. The native Anatolian blood must have been diluted to a fraction long time before you and I are born.
>Arab culture
Now that is a controversial topic. I honestly cannot imagine that you are equipped with necessary knowledge and understanding regarding the bane of our culture.

>>126625050
Kill yourself leaf, I didn't even look at the list.
Turkey would be a bitch to take out in all-out war, regardless of the enemy. What would bring it down is, not your faggotland but an alliance of strong Western nations.
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>>126580269
>>126622789
" Burj Khalifa architect Adrian Smith wins lifetime achievement award"
http://www.designmena.com/people/burj-khalifa-architect-adrian-smith-wins-lifetime-achievement-award

" When you’re the architect who designed the tallest building in the world (the Burj Khalifa), as well as the under-construction skyscraper (the Jeddah Tower) that will one day claim the title from your previous work, it would seem that you would be able to relax. But architect Adrian Smith, who along with his partner, Gordon Gill, have formed one of the pre-eminent architecture firms with expertise designing ever-taller towers, knows there’s no time to stop."
https://www.curbed.com/2016/4/12/11416026/skyscraper-supertall-adrian-smith-burj-khalifa-jeddah-tower-architect

" Around 10,000-12,000 workers, mostly poor migrants from South Asia, built the Burj."
http://www.archi-ninja.com/burj-khalifa-dubai-the-truth-behind-the-bling/
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>>126580269

most of those companies have majority shares owned by the gulf states
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>>126627864
Come on Ahmed
Better have western dirty hands than middlle-eastern clean asses ready to party - if you understand what I mean... of course you do

" Vibrant communities of men who enjoy sex with other men can be found in cosmopolitan cities like Jeddah and Riyadh."
" Talal, a Syrian who moved to Riyadh in 2000, calls the Saudi capital a “gay heaven.” "
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2007/05/the-kingdom-in-the-closet/305774/
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>>126579337
You are aware the buildings are all designed by British architects and built by Paki slaves, yes?
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>>126602035
Why the fuck does this look like it came from Half-Life 2?
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>>126631052
It's a rendered image because that one is still under construction.
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>>126604015
LMAO fucking swisscuks
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