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How long until communism works?

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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of trap loving, the ideology of revolutionary LGTB+.

Trap love is the next stage of humanity following the Hetero-normativity stage.

What exactly is trap loving according to trap lovers:

>It is a stage of society in which mans realize they feel atracted to the femenine apperance and physical attributes and not to chromosomes.
>Liking traps in it's full form is not gay, because a trap is essentially an extremely feminine looking person.
>To achieve such a society, trap lovers teach us that we can replace pussy by boipuccie, which is best pussy because vaginas are gross looking

where can I find the Bakunin's quote about Karl Marx and his jewish elite friends?

te pasas el dia en este sitio, debes ser un parado de larga duracion, ponte a buscar trabajo, y desde luego no esperes que podemos vaya a hacer nada por ti

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>>126528832

If that makes you happy I'm OK with that comrade

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>>126528046

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>>126529309

>>126529309
kek

>>126528046
Help us debate some right-wing scum: >>126524630

>>126528832
By secular logic be praised!

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>>126529126

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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>>126529761
>bulls pay cucks
?

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>>126529662

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>>126529761

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>>126528046
When are you commies going to break down and take the Nazbol pill? Internationalism is retarded and can't exist without a worldwide communist revolution first.

piss off

>>126530211
nazbol still holds a belief in "surplus theft"
the ultimate jew

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>>126530528

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>>126530401
No, you've got it all wrong. The term you're looking for is "surplus value" and it refers to the value that capitalists take from your labor without compensating you for it. Capitalism is jewish as fuck.

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>>126530401

>>126530401
I'm not sure what Nazbols believe. Do they believe that property ownership is theft?

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>yfw when the truth people rise up

>>126530796
Nazbols believe that private property is unjust. Personal property is cool, but shit like factories, infrastructure, etc. should belong to and be ran by the community. Porkie owns all the private property and uses it to only help himself, Nazbols disagree with this.

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>>126530567
remember the good old days Pekka?

>>126531218
And you distinguish between personal and private property by what? Its use?

>>126531375
Well of course, a road isn't the same as your toothbrush.

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>>126531366
I remember those days when USSR defeated Finland twice and got more land than they were asking for.
I don't remember your country because you're irrelevant bug.

>>126531467
So I can own a truck, right? Can I own 2? Can I own 10?
Can I own an acre of land? Can I own 10 thousand?

>>126531375
Yeah basically. Personal property is things that individuals can use. Private property is things that can be used by the community. So after we get rid of the jewish cappie fucks then factories would be democratically run by the community. The first things we'd produce would be tools to help communities be more self-sufficient

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>>126531492
>I don't remember your country because you're irrelevant bug.
at least we could eat ;)

>>126531743
>can be
mmmmm
So is it their use, or is it their potential use?

Why would anyone build factories if they can't own them?

>>126531492
How? The USSR wanted to annex finland and install a puppet regime. They got btfo.

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>>126531860
>So is it their use, or is it their potential use?
I don't think this is a meaningful distinction. Something's potential use is what it's used for.
>Why would anyone build factories if they can't own them?
Why do communities build roads? Why do communities build water treatment facilities? To better the lives of themselves and the people in their communities. A healthy sense of nationalism is a huge motivator to better your community, which is why Nazbols are better than commies imo.

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>>126532194
>The USSR wanted to annex finland and install a puppet regime
Do you think you can change history just because you want to? You don't know what you're talking about. Mission was to push Finnish border from near Leningrad and they did just that and got more land too.

Don't talk about things you don't understand, it makes you look stupid.

>>126532244
>Something's potential use is what it's used for
No, it's potential use is what is COULD be used for. A field not being worked is not a farm.

>Because people will want to work for others
So it depends on an unrealistic expectation of altruism.

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all hail stalin

>>126532388
Here you go stupid commie fuck.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Democratic_Republic

>Headed by Finnish politician Otto Ville Kuusinen, the Finnish Democratic Republic was Joseph Stalin's planned means to conquer Finland.[1][2][3][4]

>The Soviet Union argued that it was the only rightful government for all of Finland that was capable of ending the Winter War and restoring peace; however, before the end of the war, the Soviets gave up this interpretation to make peace with the preexisting government of Finland, which was still recognized by the rest of the world.

They wanted all of Finland and got their shit kicked in. They settled for Karelia instead. Now hang yourself.

>>126532549
>No, it's potential use is what is COULD be used for. A field not being worked is not a farm.
Right. Something's status as private property depends on how it's used. Glad we can agree on at least that.
>So it depends on an unrealistic expectation of altruism.
Nope. People want to improve their communities because it improves their own lives and also because people are naturally loyal to their own people.

I hope you all are the first to starve to death in prison camps.

>>126532891
So who decides what would benefit the community?
If a decision is made that the community would be improved if there was a road where my house is, what would I do?

Communism will only work when humans reach the next stage in psychological evolution; eliminating greed and selfishness in exchange for the betterment of their fellow man.

As of right now and probably for the next few million years, communism is a no-go.

Marx was just ahead of his time.

any libertarian communists here?

>>126533614
How to convince a commie that we haven't reached that stage yet?

>>126533398
>So who decides what would benefit the community?
The community does. Democratically.
>If a decision is made that the community would be improved if there was a road where my house is, what would I do?
You would still have personal property rights under National Bolshevism, so that wouldn't happen. Additionally infrastructure under Nazbol would be less focused on large roads and more focused on trains, and other forms of mass transit. Roads would still exist, but they're not a good solution because they're expensive to maintain and inefficient from an infrastructural standpoint.

>>126533811
>Democratically
Why is each treated as an equally important member of the community?

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God we need that Brazilian that regularly trashes communist economics on here.

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>sage

#stalindidnothingwrong

>>126534021
>Why is each treated as an equally important member of the community?
Well they wouldn't be. Obviously experts in their fields would have a more influence role in how a community is run, and most people aren't interested in the minutiae anyways. Every community member would be able to have a say in what happens in the community, especially if they contribute back to their community.

>>126533614

We don't need to wait if there is a need for biological improvement at the genomic level soon there will be tools for that.

>>126534408
So not democratically then.
So who decides what would benefit the community?

>>126534408
i think there should be votes on issues but more so to show how people feel about them for direct action, rather than voting for an official or anything like that

>>126534027
You mean the Mises worshiper?

>>126534598
>genetically engineering cucks so that communism will work

>>126534599
>>126534608
Nazbols don't think democracy is being valuable as anything more than a decision making process. Using democracy as an excuse to violate people's autonomy is bad and Nazbols don't support that.

>So who decides what would benefit the community?
The community does you fucking mongoloid.

>>126534826

There are no cucks in a classless society.

>>126534930
Democracy is a notoriously bad tool for decision making, that's why the military doesn't use it.

>>126535063
You're a fucking idiot. Obviously democracy is bad for military decision making, but when it comes to day to day shit it's a fine system. Deciding where to build a water treatment plant or a park isn't a huge decision senpai. For larger decisions experts will have a greater say, and most people will defer to them.

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>>126529774

does gommunism liek Sonikk? XDDDD

>>126534634
Yes. He regularly BTFOs your unworkable theories.

>>126535739

Nope.

http://www.macs.hw.ac.uk/~greg/publications/ccm.IJUC07.pdf

Communism requires slaves. It makes slaves and servants of the people. People throughout history do not take well to being slaves and servants. Which is why Communist regimes fail.

In the future, technology will provide us servants, and slaves. As this comes to full fruition, the working class will have less and less to do. Human labor will not be required. In this environment your commune will occur. Naturally. Without force, coercion, or even political movement. Because in this environment people do not need to be slaves. Or servants. Not for the greater good of the commune. The slaves and servants are made, and do this without becoming tired, disgruntled, or rebellious.

A form of heavy socialism or communism may be inevitable. Yet it is not the time yet. For if it is tried in the modern era, which even still requires the labor of mankind to function, it will fall. As it always has.

The communist time has not come yet. It requires technology not yet brought to us.

>>126535974
>nope
You regularly spam the same links that he addressed multiple times and made you look like a fool. Go read the archives. Your system has not worked and always leads to collapse or the countries goint back to capitalism in the end.

>>126535974
>Math, computer science, economics and socialism in the same paper
Godamn that's some good shit. Libertarian-kikes just got BTFO'd yet again.
>>126536092
All of your arguments are cliche as fuck. Capitalism requires massive amounts of labor to sustain economic growth for it's own sake, and it pays people almost nothing to do bullshit, unnecessary jobs.

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>>126528046
Posadist reporting in

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>>126534963
Nobody's a cuck because everyone is a virgin.

>>126539015
No. There will be state appointed gfs for every man in the country under communism.

Sage all communist threads.

>>126539465
Sages aren't downvotes you fucking mongoloid, just ignore threads you don't like, you autistic fuck.

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>>126535974
>Still doesn't explain how to calculate the value of a given good or service.
>concludes with 'feasible'

I know Bladerunner made it a meme but society really does need lots of expendable labor, until robots are doing all the hard labor Communism is a delusion. At least under the current version of Capitalism the working class has political rights, more than can be said than under the Soviets

>>126540645
>This dipshit doesn't understand what labor time is.
Read a book dipshit

>>126541558
>This nigger cant read the pic where the dipshit authors couldn't work out how to establish the value of labour where its value doesn't stare them in the face.

@Communist
Communism can work but It needs white unity. Communism is by far the perfect ideology for a society of intelligent, educated, hardworking people with Christian values. People who are intrinsically motivated to help thy neighbour and serve their community. The only race who understands these values are whites. White people will help each other for no material gain, they understand that there is strength in unity. Collectivisation makes us all stronger, in evolutionary terms 5 people are more likely to survive a lion attack than an individual. It is in our self interest as the white race to form strong bonds against other forces. Other races simply do not understand this advantage and are in constant conflict with themselves and others. Capitalism's only true benefit is it keeps these non-whites in line and is a motivation for socially isolated white individuals to serve society as a worker. In a communal communist society made of only whites with strong ties, communism will allow us to advance beyond our wildest dreams. All we gotta do is get rid of the mudslimes and kikes.

>>126536530
Nice. More nazbol and more fully automated luxury gay space communism is what is needed to bring the left into the spotlight

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>>126543337
NazBol

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>>126543337
>Implying nazbols are leftists

Just gas all the kikes and niggers. Then communism can work.

>>126543608
Welcome to nazbol.

>>126543750
Fuck you kike.

>>126544744
Quality post from anxamerican intellectual.

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Have fun commie fags

>>126549792
Idk why you guys think this picture triggers lefties, it never gets a response.

>>126528046
die commies

>>126528046
Why should I show solidarity with anyone?

>>126550689
Because you feel an affinity for them and/or because expressing solidarity for them could help you further your own goals?

>>126550982
>you feel an affinity for them
I don't.

>expressing solidarity for them could help you further your own goals
Then it's not solidarity but investment.

>>126552018
>I don't.
You don't feel an affinity for anyone? That's kinda sad.
>Then it's not solidarity but investment.
Fair enough, it's not like anyone's making you do anything senpai

>>126529662
so saved

>>126532747
It's a Russian, what do you expect.

>>126528046
Finally, the Spaniard is the OP again, and not the Finnshit.

sage

It's always the spaniard and fin making these threads posting weeb degeneracy in their bubble and not discussing actual politics.

Even though we're bumping, we will only attract more haters to this thread.

sage
You commies are just a bunch of idiots being used by elitist jews banding together the working class to murder people with higher IQ's which lowers the average IQ so you are easier to rule over.

>>126529761
Who says we have to give anyone anything?

>>126530680
Natsoc is best socialism

>>126554701
sage

True dat, at least we don't complain about morality when we genocide like the commies.

Also use sage to downvote a thread, this works and won't bump the thread.

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>>126554988
>88
Nice didgets .

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>>126554988
Checked

>>126555185
Do not forget to type sage, it will do the opposite of bump.

>>126554893
sage

This man is absolutely correct fellow commie reddit fags, this is how you downvote.

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s a g e

Friendly reminder to write "sage" when you post

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>>126554988
Czech'd.

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>>126554988
Operation Barbarossa was a success.
Commie Spaniard BTFO

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¡Arriba España!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=tGbGVvMEapY

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>>126554988
Checked and heiled

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>>126554988

>>126554988
checked
>>126558042
and keked

>>126558042
sage
Nice rare pepe, saved.
Too bad Trump is a kike traitor though, we really need David Duke to fix everything up.

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>>126558329
thats not trump in the meme, its a blonde nazi

>>126558528
sage
That's a relief.

>>126560488
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>>126560488
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