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Fixing the Second Amendment

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We are living in a day and age where the second amendment is no longer relevant. Allow me to explain.

The second amendment was written in 1791, more than 10 years after the Americans won their revolution. It's purpose was to make sure that people were armed and ready to fight should a foreign government try to invade US mainland.

Well fast forward 226 years, the US mainland has never been even remotely threatened by a foreign government and this trend will most likely remain static into the foreseeable future.

Now that I have proven the second amendment no longer has a purpose in America, let's talk about common sense changes we can make to it.

#1 Only allow people to own certain types of guns. No one needs to have assault rifles, they only serve a purpose if you are looking to commit a serious crime.

#2 An improved gun registry so that the government knows exactly who owns what.

#3 Improved background and mental health checks to make sure only law abiding citizens own guns.

Let me know what you all think.
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leaf shut the fuck up
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>A
>FUCKING
>LEAF

LEAVE AMERICA ALONE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

AND MY SKS AND NUGGET TO
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>>126510217
>Being this cucked by your country, where you think that taking away a valid means of defense is a good idea
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Not taking Canada during the Revolution was a mistake. Leafs shouldn't exist.
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>>126510217
KYS
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>It's purpose was to make sure that people were armed and ready to fight should a foreign government try to invade US mainland.

And that's where you're wrong leaf.
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>>126510217
Always some faggot leaf.
Spiced.
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>>126510217
Henry Rollins is an autist and so are you. Guns are awesome and I'm not going to bother reading the drivel shitposting, so fuck you. Come and take them faggot
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>>126510217
hey, while you are here can you explain your new law about not calling people the wrong thing
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>>126510217
>Leaf
>Has ANYTHING bad to say about America
kys
/thread
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>>126510217
>foreign government try to invade US mainland.
Wrong. Your premise is incorrect and your entire argument can be discarded
>foreign government
The government of the UK WAS the government of the USA, you dumbass, they weren't a foreign government
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>>126510794
so can you be arrested for wrongly identifying someone in /pol/
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>>126510217
Idiot. Read the federalist papers. The second amendment protects us from our own government as well.
Fuck you and your fake country.
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You don't have a second amendment you retard.
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>>126510217
>the second amendment is no longer relevant
Great, so you have no problem with letting them keep their AR-15s.

#1 Only allow soldiers to carry certain types of guns. No one needs to have assault rifles, they only serve a purpose if you are looking to commit a serious crime.

#2 An improved gun registry so that the citizens knows exactly what types of catastrophic weapons are currently being used or in development

#3 Improved background and mental health checks to make sure only law abiding citizens can run for office or hold a position of power within the government

waco
waco
waco
waco
waco
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>>126510217
>leaf too retarded to understand
SHALL
NOT
BE
INFRINGED
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>>126510772
Well it's a very reasonable and just law. If someone does not acknowledge another person's gender identity, whatever it may be, the victim can file a complaint with the human rights commission. The offender would be fined (max 25,000$). Nothing wrong with it.
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>>126511068
>fake country
The country exits. Its our government thats a tinpot dictatorship.
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>>126510978
Explain to me how that sentence has any relevance to what I said
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>>126510217
>It's purpose was to make sure that people were armed and ready to fight should a foreign government try to invade US mainland.
No

>Well fast forward 226 years, the US mainland has never been even remotely threatened by a foreign government and this trend will most likely remain static into the foreseeable future.
War of 1812, Cuban Missile Crisis, Bombing of Pearl Harbor

Arbitrary
>A
>FUCKING
>LEAF
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>>126511279
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>>126511288
Kek this can't be real
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>>126510217
>Allow me to explain.
no
>>>126508513
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>>126510217
Since Henry Rollins identifies as a target, can a Canadian be arrested if he doesn't treat him or use him as a target?
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>>126510217

Stop posting.

You're giving us a bad name.
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>>126510217
>Let me know what you all think.

I've got four words for you. The first one's free.

>SHALL
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>>126511279
So Henry Rollins is legally a target.
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>>126510217
Rollins needs to fucking die.
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>>126511484
zozzle
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>>126511588
Well there are limitations. Your gender cannot be an inanimate object.
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>>126511335
by your new law, can you be arrested for misidentify someone here
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>>126510217
wish that bitch was shot
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If you want to shut a leaf up just point them to their governments website.

>http://www.swc-cfc.gc.ca/gba-acs/index-en.html

"While many advances have been made, equality gaps remain. Women in Canada today earn, on average, only 73.5 cents for every dollar that men earn. Women are also more often the victims of domestic and sexual violence and continue to be under-represented in leadership and executive positions, occupying only 10.3% of positions on corporate boards."

Also sage
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SHALL
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>>126511761
c16
also m103 - we sucking islams dick up here.
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>>126510217
you guys like my assault rifle?

Also OP, your the 1st to go in the day of the
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>>126510217
SHALL
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>>126511884
m103 is not a law. Its a motion that requests the government figure out how to combat islamaphobia. I support combatting islamaphobia as most Muslims are good people and they should not be discriminated against.
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>>126511742
you haven't met my wife's pussy
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>>126511905
wtf is wrong with your legs man
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Hey look a leaf bitching about a right that he doesn't even have. Opinion fucking discarded.

1/10 got me to respond.
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>>126510217
Nice try leaf
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>>126512057
cuck
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>Well fast forward 226 years, the US mainland has never been even remotely threatened by a foreign government and this trend will most likely remain static into the foreseeable future.

Well, what on earth could possibly be the reason for that?
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>>126512057
>as most Muslims are good people
Adorable
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>>126510217
Rake yourself
Sage
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>>126510217
I'm not American, I've never even been to America, but there is still reasons why they should have guns.

1. Parts of the country do have dangerous animals.
2. Terrorism is a major concern for America.
3. You forgot that they also have guns in case their own government needs to be overthrown.
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>>126510217
Henry Rollins is a huge faggot.
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>>126512131
Weed is being legalised on Canada day in 2018. jokes on you.

btfo
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>>126510217
Allow me to offer a set of counter suggestions.

1) We remove existing regulations regarding NFA items.
2) We expand the federal prohibition on searchable databases of gun owners to the states and any state contractors.
3) People who have been released from prison or a mental institution who have not reoffended have their names purged from NICS and analogous local systems after five years.

Lets see who has the juice to get what they want.
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>>126510217
>Because something hasn't happened in one place in 200 years it'll never happen again in history
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>>126511279
holy fucking kek put me in the screencap
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>>126510217
Doesn't matter.
SHALL
NOT
BE
INFRINGED
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>not owning leftist/nigger protection.
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>>126512241
I live in rural Missouri
Cops would take 30-40 min to get to my house
Im keeping my guns idc what a fucking leaf says
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>>126511493
I don't think this one leaf bears that kind of responsibility.
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Shitpostin'
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>>126512241
1 and 2, they can still have guns but what they are allowed to have should be controlled.

3, US citizens could not overthrow their government even if they tried. AR-15s don't do much against an m1 Abrams tank.
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>>126510217
>no one needs to have assault rifles

baka f a m obviously you dont know what an assault rifle is. It has to be select fire to be an assault rifle and those are already not legal to own. an AR-15 =/= Assault Rifle. do your research you fucking leaf faggot
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Was Henry Rollins always a faggot or was this a recent change?

Wasn't he thrashing out in black flag or whatever back in the 80s???
I know he was always anti government, but anti gun foggotry coming from him wasn't expected.
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>>126510217
>see op
>see that he is canadian
Everything else you posted is immediately considered irrelevant.
>read anyways
>it's a bunch of bullshit that further infringes on rights that have eroded since 1791
Fuck yourself. Our 2nd amendment is of no concern to idiots like you who want a nanny govt.
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WRONG.

That's when they were ratified, not written
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>>126510536
this
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>>126510217
>best friend gets shot in the face by niggers at point blank range in front of you before they start shooting at you but luckily they miss and you escape
Rollins must hate niggers too if he hates guns.
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>>126512241
>You forgot that they also have guns in case their own government needs to be overthrown.
This is the entire point.
I was in Ireland talking with some young Irish folks and they couldn't wrap their heads around it.
>muh 30,000 deaths
>muh what are you scared of
Meanwhile they are an "independent" nation because of an armed revolution.
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>>126510217
Guns are terrible tools for killing. you get a mag with so many rounds. You need to be skilled enough to hit something with your limited rounds, not to mention if you hit the right spot or not to kill. Then there is the likely chance you too will be killed by another gunman. Get a chemistry book, it's better.
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>>126510217
>Now that I have proven the second amendment no longer has a purpose

But you havent. If you actually the writings from Washington, Franklin and Jefferson you would know the 2nd amendment is also for protection against the government, not just foreign threat.
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>>126510217
Something something shall not be infringed desu
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Come and take it. I will shoot anyone who tries to enforce this shit onto me.
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>>126510217
Actually it was written so that we could defend ourselves from tyrants who fancied their opinions more than our natural rights. People like you
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>>126512537
doesn't ar15 mean assault rifle #15?
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>>126510217
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YOU MEAN DA GOYIM ARE ARMED???!!
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>>126512265
Well why don't you go smoke some weed and leave us alone? Here i'll help you out

>buymyweedonline.ca
>cannabismo.ca

Now go be a degenerate somewhere else. please
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I think you are full of shit leaf, its purpose wasn't to arm america. It was to protect the rights of citizens to own against any goverment in the future (like this one) from disarming its population and ruling through force like the old monarchies. Specificly the one they just got done fighting a revolution with. With the notion that government trusts its citizens enough to own whatever they want as long as they don't bother anyone else. That the government should be limited to punishment for crimes that have already been comitted instead of actively trying to control the day to day affairs of the population like Great Britain
>remember to sage
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>>126512484
Mine's bigger.
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>>126510217
It wasn't meant just for foreign government, it was also meant to protect yourself because guess what, state police are not reliable or entirely trustworthy. The second amendment was also meant to overthrow a current government in the case it becomes tyrannical. As in now, but Americans are too spineless and lazy to get anywhere near that.
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>>126512302
I like you.
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>>126512457
I live in Chicago and it would take the police three minutes to get to my house. Drawing is still faster.
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>>126510217
>It's purpose was to make sure that people were armed and ready to fight should a foreign government try to invade US mainland.

did you even read the second amendment?

>A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

>being necessary to the security of a free State

its about being able to keep tyranny in check if you need to
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>>126512630
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Henry Rollins is a notorious faggot.
Listen to his stories about how niggers used to kick the shit out of him in grade school for being white but how he feels that they were justified because they were black.

Dude is an imbecile, plain and simple.
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>>126512487
>thinking thattanks can do anythjng but blow up houses... that's cute
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>>126512487
and if you think a tank would be used in an uprising scenario, you have no fucking clue how anything works.

The US gov't would not use its full military force on its own land. It would end up destroying infrastructure and killing so many people that it would be impossible to control the country. The only way the US Gov't would go full totalitarian mode would be by enacting martial law with curfews, checkpoints, registries, etc. They would require footsoldiers, which would be very susceptible to small arms fire. You can say, "but muh technoligee," but you'd be forgetting that technology advances for everyone, not just governments.
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>>126512487
Read more history. Asymmetric warfare is a bitch for an invading force, which the US military would be.
Not to mention at least half would defect and join the rebellion.
You are such a cream pie eating cuck it's unbearable.
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>>126512715
yes
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>>126512715
1 second of google, you stupid leaf faggot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArmaLite_AR-15
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The 1st-9th amendments are literally about allowing the populace to organize and conduct war against their OWN government.

>so they can repel foreign invasion.

WTF leaf. WTF. Damn the Jews and damn cultural Marxism. KYS
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>>126512457
Yet another reason. I hope you Americans never loose your guns.

>>126512487
Oh yes, letting them keep a bloody handgun when the muslims have ak-47's and are gunning down everyone. I'm sure they'll be able to handle it effectively.

There may be issues, and I agree that they need the mental health check thing, but other than that, they should be allowed to have their guns, even if their assault rifles.
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>>126512799
Exactly
Fucking Canadians dont understand anything
I hate Canada
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>>126512487
you forget how many in the military here would be willing to be apart of the overthrow...you don't think they can get ahold of those?
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>>126512966
no, nip
it means ArmaLite Rifle
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>>126512878
Let me rephrase.

Hill Billy rednecks with AR15s could not overthrow the US government because the government has fighter jets, attack helicopters, battleships, aircraft carriers, tanks, elite soldiers, and oh not to mention a full nuclear arsenal with enough power to destroy the planet several times.
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>>126510217
Fuck off leaf.

Really, go rake yourself.
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>>126511761
I still don't fucking understand your question. Are you asking if you, for example, call me Galileo, misidentifying me, can be arrested?
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>>126513111
>a part
vs
>apart
They literally mean the exact opposites of each other. Use them wisely.
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>>126510217
>leaf
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>>126513241
Technically, if you made a big enough stink about it to one of your many SJW courts, you probably would be able to get him arrested for it.
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>>126513241
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>>126512567
this, stay out of OUR politics you fucking leaf
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>>126510217
>It's purpose was to make sure that people were armed and ready to fight should a foreign government try to invade US mainland.
It doesn't even say that at all, snow-nigger. It says: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, *the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed*.
To complex for someone who sucks nigger-dicks?
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>>126510217
Only reason why the 2nd Amendment is onsolete today is because the American people are so docile and set in their ways that they arent using it to rid the current government it should be used on.
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>>126512823
Just saying. Terrorist did a fuck ton more damage to the government with chemistry than they ever could have dreamed of with guns. that's why they stopped using them,
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>>126510217
A canadian flag in your post makes a fool out of you. Digits in my post makes a target out of me
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I hate Canada so much
Maple Niggers need to die
There are no good Canadians
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>>126513111
Let's look at the revolution that is currently happening in Syria. Has most of the military defected to join the uprising? I'm sure some have but the number is so small it's probably insignificant.
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>>126512715
Yup. My gramps' still has his AR-2.
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>>126510217
I could break every bone in Rollins' body, but I'd rather just shoot him.
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>>126513174
>being retarded enough to think a govt would nuke itself
Neck yourself
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>>126513174
This was a good bait thread, I enjoyed this very much. Top shit posting. If by chance this is real. Fuck off and make your own country like this not ours
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>>126513449
>the current government it should be used on.
You mean Canada, right?
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>>126513336
Probably. But my country full of cucks endlessly electing cucks doesn't excuse blatant incoherence on his behalf
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>>126513538
>People in Syrian dictatorship are the same as Freedom loving Americans
>Canadian flag
Rake yourself
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>>126510217
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>>126510217
mind your own buisness and worry about canada
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>>126513767
Worse
a fucking leaf
Leafs are worse than Jews
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>>126512715
bitch please google AR-15
it stands for Arma Lite which is the company that developed it. also, its not a SELECT FIRE RIFLE. please read my post before you reply next time thx
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>>126513538
That's apples to oranges.

You're trying to compare a sectarian and race based civil war of Syria to America?

You a retard. Why would any of the Druze, Christians, Alawite/Shia of the Syrian Army join some sunni cuckolds?
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>>126513538
>I'm sure
How
>it's probably insignificant.
Are you sure about that

At no point in your post did you actually state what percentage of the Syrian military defected, you just used how many you FEEL defected, you enormous fucking cuck
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>>126511434

>real

its real, its just from 'someone familiar with Trudeau's thinking' that wrote it.
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>>126513667
My country already has common sense gun regulations. I care about other countries than mine so that's why I want to help you guys improve your gun laws.
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>>126513695
Fuck Canada. Im talking about the US.
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>>126510217
>foreign government
*the USA government
FTFY, argument base destroyed, bye try again
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i suppose the US mainland was threatened when england burned the fucking capitol to the ground either huh cuck... Also the 2nd amendment was put in place as a last line of tyranny against the american government and it seems to me its getting to that point. go spew your BS elsewhere dipshit
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>>126513538
Almost the entire US military comes from the part of the US that rebelled.
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>>126510217
>shitty quote makes no sense
>OP is a leaf

wow thats some nice b8 m8 get r8ped

sage
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>>126513070
Strong thread, already existed me twice.
Stay Frosty MizouAnon

WTF LEAFS?!?!????
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>>126513538
>you can get an ar15 in Canada
>you can also get an sks without a restricted
>the Canadian military is filled with commies
>but the Americans is filled with patriots

look at what is happening in our own country
you are pretty much arguing for full government control without any ability for the people to revolt. We have compelled speach, shit like "Islamophobia" being written into our laws and you want to take away people only chance to stop this shit. Just fucking die and you're a goddam leaf.

Im triggered, how could we sink so low


also sage
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>>126510217
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>>126513973
No improvement needed, worry about the middle east or latin America
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>>126513987
Hahahahahahahaha
An armed rebellion against a republican administration that wants to let us keep our guns, lower our taxes, and build a wall between us and Mexico?
Now I know you don't even own a gun.
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>>126513174
Its not about overthrowing, its about insurgency. You can't use all that heavy gear because it increases support for the rebels and simultaneously destroys your tax base. You can't use those elite soldiers because you never really know which ones you can trust and which you cannot because you've drawn them from the same population you're fighting. The best of those leave Fort Bragg and six weeks later you have rednecks with ARs shouting "de oppresso liber" and fighting with tactics that make other soldiers begin to question their choices. You can't maintain morale. You can't guarantee supplies. You're constantly worried about sabotage.

A civil war would be expensive and destructive. It would probably be unsuccessful if things went to a true armed conflict, but that wouldn't ever happen.

The guns create a threat and its cheaper to not push the issue. Just look at the ATF's behavior after April 19th, 1995. Sure, Terry Nichols is in prison and Tim McVeigh got the needle, but 168-2 is a pretty solid win.
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>>126512823
Also was the main tactic of the IRA. you want to stop a tyrannical military force, well they wear body armor and ride in armored vics. Your cap guns just don't compete anymore. That is playing to their strengths. I love the U.S.A and its government. did you get that mister NSA.
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>>126510536
kek
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>>126510217
How else am I supposed to defend myself when I'm mis-gendered by a bigot? America is behind the times and doesn't throw people in jail for stating biological fact, so I have to stand up for myself.
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>>126513973
Maybe they don't want you to 'improve' their gun laws. It seems that Americans are happy with the laws as they are, so deal with your own countries issues - and I'm not talking about guns.
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>>126510217
> MFW Leaf in charge of rewriting second amendment

The only "gun control" that should exist is that if I don't have enough money to buy a gun, then I don't get one. Stick to making maple syrup and leave our guns alone.
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>>126514135
A vibrant, green leaf.
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>>126513987
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David Brock is heterosexual.
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>>126513901
Well if a large portion of the military did defect Assad wouldn't be winning as he currently is. The American govt could probably extinguish a US uprising in less than a week.
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By this logic your freedom of speech only applies to parchment, handwritten paper, vocal statements made in person and anything you can get printed in a paper newspaper.
The fourth amendment doesn't apply to any electronic media because it didn't exist when it was written ................
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>>126510217
Wrong. Although the reason why we haven't had an invasion is because of the 2nd Amendment.

The reason behind the 2nd Amendment is actually to defend our own nation from our own government. It's why it's the 2nd and not the 15th. It's the 2nd most important right. The first is freedom of speech/free press/freedom to worship... If the government takes that right away (which they are) then we are suppose to have the means to fight back.

Anyways, this liberal horse shit is nothing new.
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>>126514396
lies
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>>126510217

Come and take them you commie cuck.

Shall not be infringed.
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>>126514187
Im not talking about the Trump admin.

Im talking about the deep state,the democrats and all the other corrupt pieces of shit that are keeping Trump from doing his job.
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Awesome, for you cucks up north since you have inhaled all that brown cock.

Fuck off and worry about Jamal, and maple syrup futures.
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Spice
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>>126511820
NOT
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>>126510217
Guns will always be needed by free men because freedom will always be threatened by communism. Never forget that. Never fucking forget that.
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>>126514431
He is. MGTOW
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>>126510217
>Says the country where the Queen of England can and does still suspend their Parliament.
>Says the country that is currently being lead by a former substitute drama teacher.

Fucking leafs..
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Here's the best way to fix the 2nd Amendment
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>>126510217
>It's purpose was to make sure that people were armed and ready to fight should a foreign government try to invade US mainland.
It had many purposes. Implicit and implied. The second amendment is relevant today. Sportsmen use firearms. Olympians use fire arms. Police use firearms. Hell, everyone uses firearms.....Except people who are afraid of them.

Don't peddle your fears onto me. Firearms are not the problem. The people who misuse them are. Many generations lived and died with a gun, and never saw drama. Some statistics are unstoppable (knife attack/gun/truck of peace etc). Look at the stats you tard. Most gun deaths are preventable.

rare oc from live "show"
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"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book(quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776
also sage pls
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>>126510217
Stupid donkey
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>>126514224
So are you suggesting that US soldiers would let themselves be shot and killed by people revolting?

your a dumbass
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>>126514224
Repelling an invasion is about driving up the cost to coffers, morale, and public perception. Look at Vietnam as a fine case study. The war got too expensive, US morale was low, the public turned against the war, the US withdraws. The attrition rates are insanely skewed in the US' favor, but the war was lost.
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>>126510217
it was meant to protect us from an oppressive government. you said it your self, "the second amendment was written in 1979, more than 10 years after the Americans won their revolution." We had just finished a war with an oppressive government. The forefathers, with all their mighty foresight, decided to included that we have a right to have and own guns.
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>>126510217
Henry rollins is a fag,he supports transgendered people using womens bathrooms around little kids.
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>>126510217
thanks canada. you realize we kicked you faggots out right? you are literally the forgotten remnants of the british empire that went into hiding in the north where we banished you. now keep to your refugee paradise and leave american politics to real men, in america
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>>126512057
islam should be eradicated to the last fetus
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>>126514398
false. If there was a legitimate full on push to remove gun rights there would be a civil war with military on both sides. it would destroy the entire country, russia and other countries would get in on it as a proxy war, and it would last much longer than a week
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>>126510217
Fuck Henry Rollins
>Niggers mug him and his buddy when they are returning home
>Nigger shoots buddy for no reason
>Rollins blames guns and tells us how evil white people oppress the darkies

Fuck him
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>>126514635
A better way is for you to use your 2nd amendment right to buy a gun and kill yourself with it. Then it wont bother you anymore.
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>>126510217
>a dirty foreigner telling me what my Constitution means in spite of supreme court decisions
don't you have a dog to fuck or are the refugees raping those too now?
>implying i don't know it's bait
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>>126514688
>your a dumbass
>your

niceeee
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>>126512617
Rollins shoots guns in the jackass 2 movie.
Henry rollins is a hollywood piece of shit he mc's transgendered events for money.
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>>126513174
>"Sergeant, I don't understand. Who needs a knife in a nuke fight anyway? All you gotta do is push a button."
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>>126514788
We burned your whitehouse down once before, we can do it again. Watch what you say burger.
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>>126514398
>could probably extinguish a US uprising in less than a week.

Ted Kaczynski used the US mail to send bombs for seventeen years before he was caught. The Black Power movement didn't really die out until crack. The Weather Underground operated for eight years. It took close to a decade to find Bin Laden. We lost in Vietnam, we lost in Afghanistan. The Irish held their ground for decades against the British, the Tamil Tigers held out for more than 30 years, the Kurds have been a thorn in everyone's ass since the end of WWII, and ask Russia (a country that actually gets brutal) how hard Chechnya was. Insurgencies are tough.
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>>126514507
The deep state has literally no effect on your everyday life. The CIA is not after you, they couldn't care less about you. Why would I rise up against a part of my government that dictates foreign policy? It's not ruining my life.
Don't get me wrong, fuck them for spying on me, but until someone tries to take my property or my freedom I'm fine.
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>>126514847
You're right, but we would every single last operator with the people, and remfs and neputs with the elites.
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>>126510217
Move faggot! USA does not want you.
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>>126514398
I seem to recall me saying something similar in a recent 14 year war war that I fought in and we lost.
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>>126510217
>We are living in a day and age where the second amendment is no longer relevant. Allow me to explain.
>The second amendment was written in 1791, more than 10 years after the Americans won their revolution. It's purpose was to make sure that people were armed and ready to fight should a foreign government try to invade US mainland.
>Well fast forward 226 years, the US mainland has never been even remotely threatened by a foreign government and this trend will most likely remain static into the foreseeable future.

Wrong.

How about this

#1 Leaf

#2 Fuck you

#3 SHALL
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>>126515111
ay nice digits
can you rephrase that i dont understand what you mean senpai
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>>126515111
Digits confirm
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>>126510217
>the US mainland has never been even remotely threatened by a foreign government
>canadian education
you helped the brits burn down our capital in 1814
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>>126510217
ALL THREATS FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC
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>>126511279
jesus christ almighty youre a special bunch
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>>126510536
I think this as well
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>>126510217
OP this is not an argument,it is an insult.

Kinda like you're thread on /pol/.
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Shut the fuck up leaf.
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>>126510217
I'm going to vote pro gun and you can't stop me.
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This has been adjudicated. Has nothing to do with militias.

District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), is a landmark case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held in a 5–4 decision that the


"Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller
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>>126510217
Fuck this canuck and his thread. Just wanted to say that every time I see Henry Rollins I post this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt6PWuvlNhM
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>>126515579
Voting is less important than lobbying and noncompliance.
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It's about domestic threats, not foreign threats, fucking idiot OP
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>>126515263
All the highly trained, door kicking, high speed, low drag, carnage dispensers would be on the side of the people and the Rear Echelon Muther Fuckers and Non Electric Pop Up Targest (the majority of non combat useful troops) would carry piss buckets for the elite.
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Shill or troll? You decide!
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>>126510217
>Let me know what you all think.
I think this is a Jewish trick to take my guns.
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>>126515044
Wrong. That was the British. You really need to actually read up on history instead of making up stupid shit that you apparently don't know anything about.
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>>126510217
I'll crash everything in two words
Black Market.

Besides, the only way you can fix 2A is by getting rid of the federal reserve and ATF, what you propose would just destroy it even further
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was rollins always a twink or did he just become one after too much hollywood ?
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>>126515061
Whoever it is that is turning this country to utter shit - Deep State, Kikes, Democrats who ever - They need to be purged.
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>>126513174
This is why the Americans won Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanist-oh.....
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>>126515727
ah ty
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>>126512715
>doesn't ar15 mean assault rifle #15?
windowlicker extrordinaire
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>>126515812
Well that also means that you are still British then.
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>>126510217
>It's purpose was to make sure that people were armed and ready to fight should a foreign government try to invade US mainland.


No it was not, idiot.

If you want to see what happens to people who don't have firearms to prevent tyranny, all you have to do is look at North Korea, or Venezuela, or any other of abusive despotic regimes that are allowed to persist because of an unarmed populace.
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>>126515727
People always forget that McVeigh was awarded a Bronze Star.
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>>126510217
>Well fast forward 226 years, the US mainland has never been even remotely threatened by a foreign government and this trend will most likely remain static into the foreseeable future.
LOL

It's for fighting tyranny, foreign or domestic.
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>>126510217
>Only allow people to own certain types of guns
Some states already do this. I wonder how the USSC would rule on it
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>>126510217
u r a fucking faggot leaf cuck bitch. i wish u would try to invade my home so i could blow your fucking brains out. stop trying to tell us how to be cucks like u. god damn faggot go slit your throat nigger lover bitch faggot god damn fuck ass loser nigger bitch
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>>126515963
It's not going to happen unless they very clearly infringe on our way of life. And I don't mean in a way only a /pol/ infographic can show. I mean come for the guns or come for the property or set the tax rates at 50% for the bottom bracket.
In all honesty the only way we live to see it is if the dems come for the guns.
You will not see it because of immigrants and SJWs
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Fuck off Leaf
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>>126515657

.43 sec in i Had to stop i started punching my wall,wife came in cusing.
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>>126511279
hahahaha
from scotch to shirley temples in one generation. oh canada.
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>>126510217
Look into WHY it was created in the first place Leaf.
Then you'll get your answer.
It was in defending themselves against a tyrannical King.
The people who colonized America were told to give up their arms.
If they did, we wouldn't even have the Constitution, we'd be living under King rule.

'We the People'
It's to protect the people from future tyrannical rule, the Founding Fathers were smart.
This is why Democrats want to take away arms, they want slavery again.
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>>126510217
if iifififififif you really want to change it;
the only change could be made as only people with high IQ levels should be able to carry any weapon. although that would lead to a devastating massacre in a short time.
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>>126510217
>It's purpose was to make sure that people were armed and ready to fight should a foreign government try to invade US mainland.

The second amendment's purpose is to keep the US government acountable by giving the people a last line of defense against tyrrany. Law is enforced under threat of violence, so is the will of the people. Get raked leaf
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>>126516918
good luck fighting the most powerful military in the world with your ar15
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>>126517186
Vietnamese did it. Afghans did it. And you still haven't addressed the fact that most of the US military would defect and join the people.
Cuck.
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>>126517186
We've been over this, an insurgency is not about directly fighting the military. Its taking pot shots at cops so they don't want to get out of their cars, its about shooting a guy while he's taking a dump so that they get an order that they're not allowed to use public restrooms anymore, its about killing the guy who runs the store that sells eggs to the local base while he's getting out of his car to see his son's little league game. You don't win these things by killing all of the other guy's men, you win by making the entire process so costly and difficult that you extract concessions in exchange for going home.
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>>126517186
>thinking the military will not join the people.

Do you even America leaf?
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>>126517186
>expecting the military to attack their families, communities, and cities just because the government is paying them to take away gun rights
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>>126517737
Look at every revolution that has happened in recent history. (Last 10 years). When has most of the military defected?

protip: never
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>>126514635

Yeah get fucked you commie rat. What part of SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED is so hard for you fucking cucks to understand?

Come and fucking take it.
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>>126518028
like which revolutions? any of them fueled by a government trying to remove peoples rights? any of them where the military openly went to war with citizens?
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>>126510217

I want to target Henry Rollins and pull the trigger.
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>>126518028
Look at every civil war the US has had. You are a fucking retard.
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>>126510217
Mr. Rollins your best friend would still be alive had you had a gun. Or not ran like a pussy when your dealer showed up for the cash you owed.
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>>126510217
>It's purpose was to make sure that people were armed and ready to fight should a foreign government try to invade US mainland.

Nope
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Why do Progressives get such a hard-on about Henry Rollins?

I mean, do they all want to get fucked in the ass by that guy or something?
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>>126517186

I have a feeling you are Obama leaf continuing your faggotry. Our military and civilians are bonded by something a faggot like you would ever understand - Patriotism and love of country.
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>>126518245
Americans from the civil war era are completely different from the Americans of today. Modern day Americans are extremely pussified. if law enforcement went door to door confiscating guns, Americans would give them up with a smile on their face while serving tea and biscuits to them..
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>>126510217
>We are living in a day and age where the second amendment is no longer relevant. Allow me to explain.

Please let me explain why you should kill yourself imminently.
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>>126510217
Then your betters to the south can hold a Constitutional Convention and change it. If we wanted to. Which we don't because we're not faggots.
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>>126510217
stfu leaf
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>>126510217
Shut up, Leaf.
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>>126510217
Depression's Got A Hold On Me. DEPRESSION!!! I Gotta Break Free! Depressions Got a Hold on Me , Depression... Oh fuck it. I'm so depressed I can't even finish the song... My fans must think I'm a total fucking piece of shit douche bag motherfucker. I probably got all of my neck muscles from endlessly bobbing my head while sucking vegan punker cock. I should just kill myself... After my Ted talk.
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>>126510217
Fuck Henry Rollins. Another sanctimonious, faggot celeb with armed security talking down to me. That's really been effective, hasn't it? Little doubt that he flies around in a small private jet and has a 10k square foot house, yet will bore a motherfucker to death with global warming lectures. Fuck that chump. He sold out long ago.
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Fuck off.
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>>126518491
You have no idea about America.
If you did you'd know the Americans who own guns aren't the pussified Americans, they're the ones who hate the pussification of America.
Come and take them if you don't believe me.
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>>126510217
Get fucked leaf. I am sorry the sweet air of freedom causes you to choke,
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>>126512061
Top kek
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>>126510217
'certain types of guns' . the colonists had pretty much what the british had, maybe a little rag tag but yah, in our times civilians already dont have what military has so fuck no knockin it back the difference is already wide enough.already what can you do with a pistol to stand against federal military if they were sent into your state
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You can pry my guns out of my cold, dead hands you fucking leaf cunt.

>youve never had to use them against foreign invaders so obviously you'll never have to

What the fuck kind of argument is that?

Either way, I'm more concerned about domestic tyranny. Governments can change, and they have many times in the past. A well-armed citizenry keeps them honest...ish.
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>>126510217
We just need to remove the niggers and non-whites, and fix our culture.
Srsly guns are over regulated right now.

FIGHT THE SHILLS
https://discord.gg/KUu7DJk
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>>126518491
A leaf saying that americans are pussified?
C'mon man, that must be the biggest irony i read in years
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I think your opinion is idiotic
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>>126510217
1: Most fatalities are at the hands of handguns, they make for poor self defense weapons in a home but "MUH SCARY BLACK SHOTGUNS" would go next I'm sure with your stupid logic.

2: Registries lead to confiscation, we already have laws in place for background checks, and weapon ownership

3: Hey lets just reiterate what the left says and see if it buys me any points. How about fuck you retard people who buy guns illegally are still going to get them illegally. Even remotely sane people can fake a mental health test.

The only way to stop gun crime is to increase the amount of people of good people with guns, so that every dumbass willing to try to shoot up a school or library gets two in the chest and one in the head.

Without all the gun restricted zones the US's total fatalities is somewhere near the bottom 3, with it we're nearly at the top. Your stupid gun restriction laws don't work. They never will.
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>>126510217
>Leaf
>Leaf thinks he has a say in US politics.

Leaf, if you want a say in US politics, either become a citizen, get canada annexed now, or make a time machine and do it back then.

Until then, please stop broadcasting that you are such a flaming leaf.

Always have been crypto commies.
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>>126510217
Hey asshole.

The November election put Republicans in full control of a record number of state legislatures around the country, a level of power that gives the party an unprecedented opportunity: change the U.S. Constitution.

Republicans already control Congress, the White House and more governors' offices than they have in nearly a century.

The GOP now holds numerical majorities in 33 legislatures, one shy of the two-thirds required to initiate a convention on constitutional amendments.

Here's how we're going to fix the Second Amendment.

We're to repeal and replace it.

Repeal and replace.

We're going to get rid of the confusing lingo about militias that liberal justices interpret so as to preclude the personal right to bear arms.

We're going to simplify the language to establish a personal right to bear arms beyond any judicial quibble.

And we're going to pass the new and improved Second Amendment.

The movement to repeal and replace the Second Amendment is going to fire up the base and divide the opposition.

It's a winning issue that will make the GOP the dominant party in the United States for the next 50 years.

Gird your loins, faggot.

We're going to make the Second Amendment Great Again.
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>>126519204
Most fatalities by guns in the USA are self inflicted
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>>126519204
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>>126510217

>Posted by the fucking leaf who would get arrested for saying "fuck islam"

>Still cant understand what second amendment is for
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>>126510217
If the gun in my hand makes a target out of you, doesn't that make you the fool Henry Rollins?
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>>126512487
>Implying the writers of the 2nd amendment would not want us to have tanks

Read their memoirs, you fucking leaf.
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>>126519111

It's kind of our fault for bringing them here. What the fuck were we thinking?
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>>126510217
No the second amendment was to stop any tyranny, doesn't matter if its foreign or domestic. Gun control doesn't stop people from killing each other, look at Ecuador or Argentina, or how about that Mexican that ran over all those people in Newyork gun control really stops people from killing. Just because today America is powerful and mighty doesn't mean that it won't be in 50 years. Why do you wish to leave the next generations of Americans defenceless and castrated?
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>>126519494

Because black people.
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>>126519494
Ask Sweden or Germany how badly they wish they had our gun laws right now. And then talk trash leaf.
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>>126510217
A fucking leaf.

And stale copypasta.

The right to defend ones self is an inalienable human right, to that end the right of the people to keep.abd bear arms shall not be infringed.

Also it was more geared toward allowing people to kill tyrannical fucks like you and anyone else who wants to impose laws like what you propose.
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>>126519641
The revolutionary navy was comprised of privately owned warships.
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>>126519494

If somebody is going to kill somebody, they'll do it whether they have a gun or not. Safety index of a country has way more to do with culture than gun laws. The US would be even less safe without guns for self-defense.

Leafcucks cannot understand this.
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If you think the second amendment no longer has any purpose in America start a petition to repeal it. See how far you get.
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>>126514635

Seems more like the best way to start a fucking civil war. You filthy fucking larper
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>>126510217
people used to be allowed to own cannons, and any firearms they damn well pleased. the second amendment is for fighting tyrannical governments, not "any one besides the USA". the second amendment should only limit people from owning artillery, drones, or any sort of firepower that would allow you to destroy a city block in seconds. everything else is fair game
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>>126512715
>doesn't ar15 mean assault rifle #15?

Confirmed liberal and noguns,jpg

It means Armalite-15.

I swear, it is like your whole fucking country is retarded.
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>>126520022
It's much more difficult to kill without a gun. A gun is just a pull of a trigger and it's all over - not much thought to it. If you were to say, stab someone to death, most people wouldn't be able to do that because it's too up close and personal.
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>>126510536
you tried so many times to take canada, and you failed every time you retards.

CANADA BELONGS TO THE QUEEN
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>>126512799
Being white and living in chiraq should be an automatic reason to own a gun
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>>126510217
>America makes law where citizens own guns in order to deal with an invasion
Ahh bummer dude. You could have said in order to prevent an invasion. Stop being a faggot Canada.
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>>126510217
Henry Rollins is a badass, loved his appearance on Joe Rogan podcast, really inspiring guy living a great life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruN9DY6Oaw4
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>>126510217
> the US mainland has never been even remotely threatened by a foreign government
I seem to remember the White House in flames in 1812.
>The second amendment was written in 1791, 10 years after the Americans won their revolution.
we won our Revolution in 1789
>Improved background and mental health checks to make sure only law abiding citizens own guns.
those already exist
>Only allow people to own certain types of guns
that already exists we're not allowed to have AT weapons
>No one needs to have assault rifles
people are mistakenly labeling semi-automatic rifles as assault rifles. People use semi-automatic rifles for hunting and home defense. So your argument is wrong.
> An improved gun registry so that the government knows exactly who owns what.
That already somewhat exists, the form you fill out to purchase a weapon has the serial number of it and your name and address. Do we need Washington, DC to have a central registry is what you're getting at - NO. The only reason to have one of those is for confiscation of said firearms.

Something you anti-gun folks don't seem to realize is a lot of these weapons cost a lot of money and it's just not the weapons - it's the accessories, the slings, magazines, the sights, the ammo isn't cheap. These are our personal property that we've personalized and spent a lot of money on. Whenever they do a voluntary weapons turn-in they offer a $100 or $150 grocery store card it covers no where near what was invested in any werapon someone bought. Let's see how you'd feel or what tune you'd sing if someone just came and took something you invested over $2500 in.
Just because you don't like guns doesn't mean you can dictate that to others. This is America and the right to bear arms shall NOT be infringed. Everything you mentioned was infringing.
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>>126517186
You realize that the number of armed civilians outnumbers all the police, soldiers and gonvernment agents by a factor of 10 right?

And that's before the 80% of the military that are gun loving redneck conservatives defect if the government ever went full retard.
Only the boot licking liberals with a power complex would fire on their neighbors if told to do so.
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Canadians don't get opinions, go fuck a moose you damn leaf.
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>>126513174
Someone still has to come kick in my door... and if I am sitting there with a 12g whoever comes in is going to have a bad day. I may die, but not before taking a couple out with me. And after a few houses of that shit, show me the man who volunteers to be the first through the door.
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>>126511905
that's a lever action rifle you dumb shit
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french, always starting shit, might want to start with trucks they have been pretty successful at fucking shit up lately.
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>>126520774

see

>>126518491
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>>126510217
Give me some solid evidence that Henry Rollins knows anything about anything. I've yet to be let to believe anything of the sort.
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>>126510217
Fixed op.
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>>126520397
Tell that to Britain.
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this thread is so fucking gay and i fucking hate canadians
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>>126513509
>Digits in my post makes a target out of me

No, being a nigger from Shitaly does that quite fine on its own...
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>>126521029
lead*
stupid nigger
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>>126510217
>t's purpose was to make sure that people were armed and ready to fight should a foreign government try to invade US mainland.
Thats is where you are wrong leaf. The 2nd amendment was put there as a check against a tyrannical American government. Next time before you butcher our history, read a fucking book about the constitution, the first 10 amendments known as "bill or rights" and its intent. I suggest starting with the federalist papers and the anti-federalist papers.
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>>126510217

You want 'common sense', leaf? Here you go.

Even the most powerful modern armies have difficulty fighting insurgencies. Therefore, as an ultimate safeguard against government tyranny, the citizens of any state must arm themselves like insurgents.
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>>126521028
>leaf telling burgers that we're pussified
wew, leaf
you have no fucking clue
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>>126513973
>My country already has common sense gun regulations
>(((common sense)))

Get fucked
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>foreign government
Are you this Fucking retarded you leaf?
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>>126520358
I think technically it stands for Armalite Rifle 15
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>>126510217
>Rollins being anti-gun

Funny he says that, he could have prevented the murder of his friend when they were attacked by black criminals. But he chose to run away.

But yeah, listen to Rollins about gun laws.
I mean he is really fun to listen to most
of the times, and he has some ok stories to
tell, but you can see very clearly he has some
severe mental problems.
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>>126514688
No, they would most likely join the revolt.
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>>126510217
Fuck Henry Rollins and fuck you leaf.
Please keep your ((( big gov ))) hands out of our lives
We're already barely free as it stands
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>>126521667
You mean he could have bought his speed off a white guy and it would have saved his buddy's life.
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>>126510217
wtf fuck off and stay out of my country with that shit, stupid leaf.
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>>126521692
Not likely. Most US soldiers are honourable people and would not violate the oath they took when joining the service
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>>126510217
A fucking leaf lecturing about the second amendment. Go back to fucking moose you flannel clad syrup nigger.
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>>126510217
get fucked leaf
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>>126510217
Interesting. Your basic argument is that society has advanced to a point where the possession of personal firearms is no longer desirable or necessary. My counter to this is that society is a social technology itself, a construct if you will, meant to redirect the primitive evolutionary programming we are all born with. And that's the problem. Historically, societies always break down eventually. Western civilization is showing all the classic signs of failing. And as society fails, people will default back to our base programming. The same programming we've been stuck with since our distant ancestors climbed down out of the trees. And when that happens, I'd rather be armed than not.
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>>126510217
and the First Amendment was written when hand press printing was only available to a few.
With the advent of the internet and twitter we need to abolish it also. p.s. HR is a faggot who ruined Black Flag
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>>126510217
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>>126521935
The oath is to the Constitution, not the government you raging faggot. They'd be violating it by confiscating guns or infringing on our other rights.
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>>126514635
This is antifa delusion right?
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>>126514848
Agreed
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>>126521935
They swore an oath to uphold the constitution and defend the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. If the government itself is threatening the constitution, they can be considered a domestic threat. I am also gonna leave this here, do something that requires turning those gears in your head for once and read it.
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>"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." - Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776
> "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery." - Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787
> “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
> "I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers." - George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788
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>>126510217
To a dress your points.
#1 Assault Rifles are already effectively illegal. You can buy a rifle that looks like an Assault Rifle, but it doesn't not have the fully automatic function of a true military weapon.
#2 Canada tried a federal registry for rifles. It proved unworkable. In the U.S. it would likely be even less effective.
#3 there are already background checks for every firearms purchase in the U.S. Failures in the system allowed both the Virginia Tech and Aruora Theater shooters to legally purchase firearms despite having a history of mental illness. The system was in place, but the bureaucracy failed.
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>>126510217

Read the Federalist papers the purpose was so that the government didn't have shittons of professional soldiers to call upon to oppress the people.

The people would just be the army. It didn't work because turns out an army full of regular assholes fucking sucks and is completely fucking unreliable once we no longer had the charismatic leadership of George Washington
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>>126510217
>Well fast forward 226 years, the US mainland has never been even remotely threatened by a foreign government

You fuckers burned down the White House in 1812.
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>>126521059
They didn't post his true quote anyway.
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Since this post is about to be ARCHIVED, I would like to thank all you dumbass burgers for entertaining me for two hours.

see you tomorrow
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>>126511288
Honestly confused by this. Since Justin is actually Castro's son, why did he internalize his "father's" cuckold status?
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>>126523481
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>>126511905
Kek.
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>>126512093
Leafs can actually own ARs. They can only.have five round magazines for them, though.
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>>126523481
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Henry Rollins takes it in the ass and likes it
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>>126512157
Rifle in pic is custom M1 Garand rechambered in .458 Winchester Magnum. Yes, I would like a semiautomatic elephant gun, please.
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