Orthodox or Catholic?

athiesm

Dont know much about orthodoxy, but its pretty hard to get more cucked than Catholicism

Bum p

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>>126478861
Catholicism

>>126479011
quiet WASPie

>>126478861
Catholicism.

Orthodoxy is simply Iconoclasty and still adheres to Constantine's Roman pagan nicean creed hegemony over spiritual and temporal matters XY axis from powre is expressed and creation is possible and through the christ(center point) all things are within the realm of creation..

>>126479011
Care to explain?

>>126478861

>This question
>In 2017

Catholicism ain't even Christianity at this point

Their Spic pope is kissing nigger muslim feet in Rome and allows them to sing Muslim prayers kek

>>126478861
What orthodoxy? Because the Eastern "Orthodox" and the Oriental "Orthodox" Churches believe different things.

Also, have you seen an orthodox removing kebab? Me neither. Have you seen an orthodox evangelizing Americas, China, Japan, the whole world? Me neither.

Catholics are cucked at the moment due to certain unfortunate circumstances probably related to the end times, but orthodox are cucked by nature.

>>126479898
>its pretty hard to get more cucked than Catholicism

even though I see the Catholic faith as more based, its cucked because it's a contradiction in itself and it's followers just go through the moions similar to jews as they believe they're gods chosen people yet worship mary which is a roman representation of Venus.

Catholicism is paganism, which is the whore o f babylon.

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>>126479625
>Catholicism.

This.

>>126480115

>What is Russian conquest of Tatars
>What is Bulgaria
>What is Greece
>What is Serbia
>What is Balkan Wars
>What is Soviet Union's genocide of Chechens/Tatars during Stalin's era
>What is Yugoslavia
>What is Kosovo
>What is Chechnya
>What is Dagestan
>What is Russia's war on ISIS/Turkey

Tell me what was the last time your great Spain removed kebab?

Also Orthodoxy is not about world conquest unlike your shitty globalist jew controlled meme of Christianity

>>126480372
t. orthocuck who needs to ask Turk masters to make a council

>>126480032
So let's just abonden the mother church and go to heretic churches? Fuck off proddie, the PKN is really divided and will vanish in our lifetimes. The Catholic church will revive on the ruins of modern civilization.

>>126480115
Good bait moor, good bait.

>>126480462
>Orthoshit
>Calling other religions "memes"
>When Orthomemery is the right wing equivalent of buddhism to liberals

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>>126480476

This.

Who needs Jesus when you can worship niggerfeet instead?

>>126480115

have you seen an orthodox priest molesting kids?
i once read something about a NY priest and a mistress, that's it
>orthodox are cucked by nature
you are fucked up by nature, read about the greek orthodox priests and their role in the turkish occupation and ww2
(atheist)

>>126480642
>He thinks Christianity is a white only religion

Hahahahahaha go larp as a pagan viking inbred imbecile

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>>126480703

>>126480750

If you're dark enough (and your flag tells me you are), then there's a good chance your Pope will lick your 3rd world feet too!

If he does, please ignore his boner.

>>126480550
>>126480607

Too bad because Catholics are just bunch of shitskin retards like this Mexishit thinking he's some hot shit when 1 Russian kicked 40 of his countrymen's asses in their homeland kek

>>126480929
Nice meme, what has the Ukraine madman anything to do with this?
The Catholic church is and will always be the mother church. Return home brother, or our nation will dissapear.

>>126480462
All those countries were evangelized pre-schism, so by Catholics. After that they've done nothing. Also if you think that this:

>Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.

Is world conquering jewery, you've got serious problems.

>>126480579
Romania please

>>126480703
I'm pretty sure there is pedophilia in eastern countries aswell.

>>126480642
Even if the Pope sucked nigger dick and got fucked in the ass, that doesn't change a thing.

Catholicism != Pope.

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>>126480929
>He defends a crazy guy who slapped babies and women

Wow, so Christian. Because Jesus hated brown people, right? Yes, he would approve your race-worshipping ideas. Sure.

>>126481172
>Even if the Pope sucked nigger dick and got fucked in the ass, that doesn't change a thing.

I rest my case.

>>126478861
Here is the answer
Name a non shit orthocucks country

>>126478861
well, catholicism is a heresy created by the pope so that he wouldn't have to share power with the other patriarchs, soooo, take your pick

>>126480372
St. John Paul helped destroy communism and turned his turkroach assassin into a catholic, the man was a living Saint

>>126478861
Catholicism of Avignon

>>126481220
What case? According to that fucked up logic, Germany as a whole is defined by Angela Merkel and some scat porn.

>>126480032
We don't have to agree with him, just respect his authority.

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>>126478861
neither

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>>126481502
king james fundamentalists that supplement with the gnostic gospels

>>126481156

Your CDA brothers are biggest cucks in this shithole of a country and are main reason why that faggot (((((Rutte)))) is still our president and not Geert
>>126481172
Orthodoxy is about preserving Christian traditions and values of Christianity, not selling yourself out just so you could rule the whole world under your big hat meme guy cult

Also daily reminder your pope meme guy with a funny hat made it so you can pay off your sins so yea you guys sure are some hardcore Christians when I can just pay off any sin I have ever committed with some metal
>>126481194
Go immigrate to USA and join MS13 or Calle 18 and then kill eachother over colours you filthy savage

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>>126480815
anti communist team of greek orthodox priests shortly after ww2 and during our civil war
they were commie priests also
priests have rank in our military
kys

>>126481194
That's what the proddies think in my country. They are either ultra nationalistic or 'freethinking', both of them split of the PKN (fusion of all the protestant denominations). It's SAD.

>>126478861
They both suck and endanger the salvation of those who take them seriously. The Eastern Orthodox are slightly less shitty. The Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod is the based Church.

>>126481784
Why are you caring about politics so much? Haven't you noticed that it doesn't matter. If we don't organize around a common belief our nation will vanish.
And I voted for Theocratie btw.

>>126478861
Orthodoxy is currently more based. But catholicism is more true thus in the long run will be more based. They are both part of the one true church anyway

>>126481273
Lel. The pentarchy was a meme. The patriarch of Isanbul always wanted to be the Pope's equal and wanted to call himself "Universal Bishop" and the Pope had to tell him to kindly fuck off. Right now you can't even agree with the other 4 "patriarchs" (e. g. Antioch), on even some basic dogmas. Sure, it's Rome's fault.

I respect EO's but that's some typical bullshit you always repeat.

>>126481784
>pay off your sins
Literally protestant tier lies. Are you aware that western gothic in all their architectural glory was built on indulgences? Literally nothing to do with paying for sins, although of course there were abuses and many popes have been pretty shitty.

>>126482039

>Any other party than PVV

Ga jezelf neuk

>>126481456
Points 3 and 4 are really stupid.

Obedience to the Tsar was a Christian duty for all Russians and preaching it is what Christians should preach, not some kind of quid pro quo situation. And it's not just the ROC's opinion that God commands people to be obedient to authorities, it's a fact.

>>126480251
wait

are you saying the mother of Jesus is not real?

>>126478861
Orthadoxy defended Europe from muslims while cathocucks were LARPing as Romans also the catholic church is run by jews nowadays


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1577720/Pope-removes-anti-Semitic-text-from-prayer.html

>>126482452
Yes, temporal power must rule over the Church. American "Theology".

>>126482382
>Falling for the Geert meme.
I bet you were on of those political zealots that really thought he made a chance in the kabinet. The only thing he is good for is normalizing right wing politics. He will never participate in any kabinet formation whatsoever, and he is fine with that.

>>126480032
>
>>This question
>>In 2017

>Catholicism ain't even Christianity at this point

>Their Spic pope is kissing nigger muslim feet in Rome and allows them to sing Muslim prayers kek
Tell us when Christ told us to hate our enemy.

>>126478861
currently? Orthodoxy because Catholics are cucked AF. Historically, Catholics fought crusades while Orthodoxy got assraped by muslims.

>>126482299

Yea because Martin Luther decided to abandon Catholicism even though he was a monk for no fucking reason am I right?
>>126482650

When the Jews killed him and Muslims conqured 50% of Christian world?

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>>126482558
the catholc mary is not the virgin mary, but a form of Lucifer worship. and catholicism is a luciferian counterfeit of Christianity.

>>126482650
catholic church is the false prophet, UN is the beast.

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>>126478861
Neither, they're both pagan bullshit. If you're American and you shill for either of these memes you're either a larper or a filthy Slav or Mick.

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>>126482789
catholic church invented Islam. and the eastern leg of europe stood for a thousand years more against the atrocities of Islam than the western leg did.

>>126478861
gnostic christianity

>>126482935
>the catholc mary is not the virgin mary
What. Why. Who is she then?

>>126483168
This picture is so retarded it gave me cancer in the first sentence. Jerusalem was under the authority of the church in the 3rd century. It was all roman land

>>126482904
Forgive them Father for they know not what they are doing. If you are not willing to die for Him you are not of Christ. Stop pretending Christ wants violence and war you filthy pagans. You are ducked by Satan.

>>126482789
when exactly orthodoxy got assraped by muslims?
when they toke constantinople? (you can thank our "allies" for that)
priests acted like teachers for 400 years of turkish occupation and they fought when they needed to, they are the true martyrs, not the muslim faggots
FACTS BITCH, you have them?

>>126478861
one is Satanism larping as Christianity, the other is not

>>126483985
Maybe when they let the muslims take Jerusalem initially, or Egypt, or Antioch, Or Armenia, or Anatolia, or...

>>126478861
Depends on your nationality. Islam is better than Christianity, but I will always choose Catholicism.

>>126484119
>Implying that they didnt fought for them
>Implying there was Orthadoxy or Catholicsm 1054
burger education

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>>126484119

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>>126478861
No matter how thin you slice it, it's still baloney.

>>126484801
>Implying they didnt fight and fail horribly
>Implying there wasn't a significant divide before the official Schism

>>126483168
That is so fucking stupid even for a retarded American proddie, there was literally no reason for the church to stage the mohamedan shit. And I find amusing how a proddie complains about that when your kind has prefered sandniggers over Christians since your Satanism started.

esoteric bogdanism is the true religion

>>126483985
...
Bosnia?
Albania...

Not to mention when the Turks conquered constantinople, they made the patriarch their dog and still to this day the seat is held by muslims.

... you know, some of the things Greeks complain about the Ottoman Empire and how bad it was.

>>126485115
I wonder who razed Constantinopole from the inside before the Muslims conquired it

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>>126483596
false.

>>126485031
>church who burned people at the stake for reading the bible in english, and teaching it without church intervention has no reason to stage mohamedan shit

>not understanding the depths of satans treachery.

>not understanding Catholicism is a counterfeit of Lucifer.

>not being able to explain why catholicism and islam are slowly merging.

>>126485282
that was how many years ago now?

Today, the Patriarch of Constantinople is under Turkish law, he is subject to the authority of the state of Turkey and is required to be a citizen of Turkey.

That my friend, is the cuck to end all cucks.

the point is this: greek orthodoxy does not turn the other cheak when slapped too hard, if anything that's the opposite of getting "assraped by muslims" or anyone
if you wanna talk about military conflicts, ally give aways and alexander the great territories we lost go ahead and be a retard

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>>126483581
she's not the queen of heaven, its not scriptural backed.

its a form of idolatry.

>>126484988
>There wasnt a significant divide
We are talking about catholicism and orthadoxy before that there was an east-west divde latin (west) and greek (east) but the official divide 1054
>Implying they didnt fight and fail horrible
They defended Europe from muslims while all the catholics were doing is "im da tru roman ignore my germanic decent and languge xDDD" also at the 4th crusade when the catholics betrayed the orthadox at Constaninopole,attacked and sacked the city and left the byzantines weak and ready for invasion and how the byznatine king sent letters to west europe to help them against the ottomans they all ignored exept Genoa

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>>126478861
if you like fiction and larping

>>126485984
what do you mean she is not queen?
if Jesus is her son
and if Jesus is the son of the Father
and if the Father is king
isn't Mary the queen?

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>>126485867
forget how the Pope is kissing the feet of rapefugges and how he says they need to be supported by the Europeans and how he said that catholics dont need to "breed like rabbits"
The Pope is trully the biggest jew

Orthodoxy of course, it's the true Christianity, any discussion about that is a joke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjRHqMpsNb4

paganism

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>>126478861
christian atheism

>>126485742
>the church, which was still united between east and west, and had no sizable rival created a genocidal cult that could conquer and destroy half of its territory because it felt from the asshole to do it
>Luther didn't admit being visited by the devil (like muhamed), who can corrupt our minds and posses our spirit
>Protestantism isn't the source of the enlightenment and subsequently of secular states, atheism
>protestants didn't kill and attacked Catholics where they lived, or killed millions of native Americans and africans
>the goy ignores protestant churches approve degeneracy, usury, Zionism

>>126479000
fpbp

>>126486053
>be the Bishop of Constantinople
>emperor tells me I'm worth way more than I actually am
>Jesus btfo
>Pope doesn't like it one bit
>excomunicates me
>wtf? I'm the Pople now didn't you listen to the Byzantine Emperor?
>"excomunicates" the Pope, totally showed him what's what
>act like a spoiled brat for the next centuries
>Catholics on their way to fight the muslims don't give two shits about unrepentant excomunicated rulers
>Catholics don't give two shits about unrepentant excomunicated rulers and let Constantinople fall
>waaaaaaaaagh why didn't you help why did you betray

Make the bed, lay in it.

orthodoxy.

>>126487262
more like
>duh i'm a roman patriarch so i'm a god on earth, gibe all your moneyz
>all other Church patriarchs: fuck off retard

>>126486606
you're not a Christian, you care little for Christianity of you think the Pope kissing the feet of refugees is any worse than Jesus kissing the feet of a whore

honestly, you're no better than the fucking Jews

if you think this action is worse than having the leader of your fucking church be under the complete dominion of an islamic country, I start to wonder if you aren't a dirty Albanian.

I need a redpill on christianity. I know nothing about it. Like wtf are gospels and shit?

How do i study christianity? Should i read the bible first pls help

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>>126487077
>doesn't understand the protestant church is under attack from catholic infiltrators.
>still thinks I'm protestant, and has to call me a proddie when I'm non-denominational, and don't agree with Luther since he attacked home reading of the bible as much as the RCC did.
>Luther
my god, I'm tired. of explaining this do you idiots, John Calvin, Jan Hus, Peter Waldo, John Wycliffe, and Erasmus of Rotterdam started the reformation.
>>the church, which was still united between east and west, and had no sizable rival created a genocidal cult that could conquer and destroy half of its territory because it felt from the asshole to do it
>doesnt understand that Biblicaly there was always a separation of church of state between Levi and Judah.
>can't understand that roman Catholicism becoming the state religion in 380 was Satans way of marrying the church

>protestants didn't kill and attacked Catholics where they lived, or killed millions of native Americans and africans
>catholics didn't anally torture innocent christians calling them witches for several hundred years
>mmillions of native americans and africans
man, you're real dumb, Islam ransacked northern africa, and niggers and mudshits ran the slave trade. and native americans also spent a lot of time killing each other. the "they were a peaceful people" is a lie.
>ignoring that the catholic church actually killed millions of people in south america especially with disease.

>>126480115
The Orthodox have been spreading pretty rapidly in America with plenty of converts. To the point where the Patriarchs have slap fights over how to handle the situation. China and Japan have Orthodox too but not as large a presence as other Christian groups.

>>126487262
>Woahhhhh Lets attack this Capital of a stronk christian empire just becauz the Bishop of Constanionopole exomunicated our pope and after they retake it they will be so weak they cant defend themselfs against muslims Geniuss!!!
as well you saind nothing about what the pope is doing...

>>126487714
>Should i read the bible first pls help
No, the first step is to join the Church, only by practice you can acquire the mindset to interpret the Bible properly without engaging intellectual masturbations that spawned so many sects of Catholicism and Protestantism.

>>126487567
More like
Jesus instructs Peter to be head of the Church
All apostles agree to it
centuries later, the Bishop of Rome, successor of Peter, asks the successors of Paul to act accordingly.
successors of Paul thinks fuck Jesus, fuck Peter, fuck Paul, the emprah made us big now
notsobigafterall.jpg
wahhh why are catholics so mean?!

>>126487714
The gospel is the new testament, the books written and passed on by the apostles of Jesus. Reading the bible is a good beginning, but you should talk to a priest or search a little for yourself, reading the bible won't help you at anything if you don't understand it or what is around it.

Mr

>>126480703
the priest was from my church lol

>>126486606
>Catholicism - the largest religion in Sub-Saharan Africa and Phillipines
>catholics dont need to "breed like rabbits" and don't suffer the consequences of overpopulation
>somehow the message is directed only to European catholics who have better resources

We need to dig up the news and don't fail for the bait only ot the title news.

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>>126486604
Christ is the King of Kings, and the Lord of Lords. there is nothing in the bible to support the idea that Mary reigns as queen in heaven.

the idea of "the queen in heaven" is a Babylonian idea that comes from Nimrods wife.

and Christ was married to mary magdalen.

>>126488168

I just wanna read about christianity. Not become christian per se, just read about it.

I need like a list in order of reading it. Bible, gospels etc.? I want to read about jesus, christianity etc.

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Catholic church/jewish church is fucking cucked as fuck.

Satan himself could be sitting on the "magic throne of peter" and the diehards would still be shilling for that shit globalist pedo club

> Catholic priests are several times more likely to have full blown fucking AIDS

>>126488142
Western Roman empire was dead for thousand years you retard, while the Christianity was flourishing in the middle east where it was born.
The "Jesus told me I'm to be the God on Earth" meme is too funny to comment.

>>126488017
a strong heretical, unrepentant excomunicated empire means nothing
who cares they couldn't defend themselves. you think europeans acted any different to other excomunicated rulers?

no fucks given to this day still. unrepentant and heretical to this day. Jesus saw to it that it was buried under Islam to this day.

>>126487627
You missed the other points but oh well "we ar christianz we should bend ovah to da raepfugez they are there to enrich us"
all what i said are facts + the Patriarch of Constantninopole whouldnt be under islamic nation if you catholics didnt attack it in first place
Plus why whould you think im albanian

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>>126488372
here's a good compilation of the product of studying world religion.

I recommend the gnostic gospels. and here's a guide to help you.

anything that tells you that the spirit of god, and the kingdom of heaven dwells within you, that you have a direct connection to god, is of the true god. anything that tells you to look for god outside of you, is of the adversary.

christianity differs from most religions, its the understanding that god loves you enough to sacrifice his son for your sins, transgressions against his universal law, and accepting his sacrifice to you, instead of rejecting it is accepting his love. in most pagan religions you are required to sacrifice your children to their false gods.

>>126488549
conflating the western roman empire with the bishop of Rome?
to this day you Orthodox cunts really like to value the influence of some emperor over that of Christ

>Jesus told me I'm to be the God on Earth
good to see your leaders had to resort to lies and strawmen to keep you bowing to the Turks.

Orthodoxy is a false religion i line in an orthodox country and they worship items and corpses and even the flip flops of some dead monks

I don't know which religion is true if any but I can tell you that it's not Orthodoxy

>>126484830

Ignore it - it will go away.

>>126488372
These guys make great lectures in English

Reading the Bible as an Orthodox Christian - Dr Jeannie Constantinou
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GHE6oqCc_U

Advent Retreat with Abbot Tryphon "I Will Walk Among You"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeEHaQjgpOk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oSOxaj-E-Y

Orthodoxy and Asceticism: Why and what is its purpose in our Christian lives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87GvZrM0Kbw

Prayer in the Heart in a World of Distractions - Mother Victoria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQiIC6mZdtM

And this dude is prolific and a good speaker
https://www.youtube.com/user/evanorth1

>>126488811

Thanks brah but i wanna read books. And i need it in chronological order. Start with bible then which gospels? What do?

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>>126488922
well its not Catholicism, because they do the same thing.

>>126488581
Doesn't that say more about Orthodoxy than anything? All of this time it's been attacked by Islam and communism yet it's survived and even growing in some areas. Seems to me like if Jesus hated them so much they'd be extinct by now.

>>126478861
Roman Catholicism. *Filioque

>>126488323
"yes europeans do not have alot of children while i quietly kiss the feet of these poor muslim rapefugges who are going to soon outnumber you in your own countries remember im here appointed by God himself that means i can do whatever i want"

>>126488847
>Turks
the only reason turkey is where it is and russia didn't take over constantinople is because catholic trash support it and defend it for centuries

>>126489067
Well I'll be damned

Please tell me Protestants don't kiss and worship icons and corpses too

>>126489069
Shut the fuck up you stupid Protestant and go suck Martin Luthers cock.

>>126489039
> chronological order
just get a king james, or a new american standard bible. and just read it in order.

after you read the bible read the gospel of mary magdalen, thomas, and judas in that order.

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>>126489226
not that I know of, but I'm not protestant, I'm gnostic.

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>>126488922
You can be Orthodox and not worship items, corpses or flip flops

>>126480462
>implying the soviet union was orthodox

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>>126489438
it doesn't change the fact that they still do it.

>>126488581
If Jesus didnt want "heretical" Christiany to exist he whould had removed catholicism...go on blindly support the pope he is always right about everything......

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>>126488719
I think that you're Albanian because you care little for Chistianity in a discussion about it.
Because you think the Pope kissing the feet of a refugee is worse than Jesus kissing the feet of a whore.
Because you think supporting means, and let me write it like you put it to show how you think it is,"we should bend ovah to da raepfugez they are to enrich us". Maybe the guys who let gave Joseph and Mary shelter was bending over... oh wait, he was "bending over to the raepfugez they were to enrich him".

That's why you're a dirty Albanian.

>>126489621
There's a difference between worship and veneration. I don't worship icons, I have them up as respect, reminders and veneration, it really depends on the individual

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>>126489742
>what did he mean by this.

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>>126488811
>Gnostic Gospels
HERETIC HERETIC
REEEEEEE

gainst Heresies written by a Roman Catholic, St. Irenaeus taught by St Polykarp taught by Apostle John concerning the gnostics.

To these things all the Asiatic Churches testify, as do also those men who have succeeded Polycarp down to the present time,— a man who was of much greater weight, and a more steadfast witness of truth, than Valentinus, and Marcion, and the rest of the heretics. He it was who, coming to Rome in the time of Anicetus caused many to turn away from the aforesaid heretics to the Church of God, proclaiming that he had received this one and sole truth from the apostles—that, namely, which is handed down by the Church. There are also those who heard from him that John, the disciple of the Lord, going to bathe at Ephesus, and perceiving Cerinthus within, rushed out of the bath-house without bathing, exclaiming, "Let us fly, lest even the bath-house fall down, because Cerinthus, the enemy of the truth, is within." And Polycarp himself replied to Marcion, who met him on one occasion, and said, "Do you know me?" "I do know you, the first-born of Satan."

Gnostics deny a physical resurrection. They think all matter is evil that Jesus was a ghost and didn't really eat fish with his disciples, it's just "allegory" KIKES

>>126489621
you are aware that veneration of relics of saints and martyris is a part of original christianity? fucking muslim.

>>126489739
Peter held the seat of Antioch first. Does that mean the Orthodox of Antioch are the one true church too?

>>126487986
>non denominational
So you don't even accept rules from conman pastors, ok.
>Luther
Luther is the started of the reformation, you agree with him to not, even if he disagreed with protestants.
>Catholicism become the official religion was Satan marrying the church
Always the same, never something concrete, only larping because the empire was bad.
>native Americans and Africans
I never said they were pacific, thanks to the church and evangelization of the Americas pagan Mesoamerican cults that involved human sacrifice ended. Much to the contrary of northern America where they where persecuted and treated like shit. Spain protected the Indians by law. And of course the church could could not expect that the Indians would suffer massive death from Europeans diseases, and the "muh inquisition against Indians" is bullshit, the church wasn't even allowed to judge or persecute Indians. They treatment wasn't that bad because otherwise I would never see Amerindian like people in the street, like in the us.

The original church, both have strayed too far.

>>126478861
Baptist.

>>126481379
>turned his turkroach assassin into a catholic
interesting, i've never heard that before. that's pretty based actually.

>>126489226
Protestants just give theirvmoney to former pimps,drugdealers,conmen that decided to become pastors.
People need to stick to thecatholic or orthodox churches.

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>>126490070
no.

>>126490168
At least say Pentecostalism.

>>126489742
hahhhahaha you dont aggre with my perspecive of view on chirstiany you must be albanian xaxaxaxaxxa
also 2 Pepole searching for a shelter is diffrent from 4 million pepole flodding europe
Btw "That's why you're a dirty Albanian" you just google the biggest minority in my country and just say that im that minority because i dont aggree with you

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>>126489961
>Antioch
KEK

>>126489944
>Gnostics deny a physical resurrection.

no they don't

>. They think all matter is evil that Jesus was a ghost and didn't really eat fish with his disciples, it's just "allegory"

no they don't

Irenaeus is wrong on a lot of things, pretty much on everything he ever wrote.
>>126489950
>calling a bible thumping flat earth christian a muslim

>>126489865
difference between worship and veneration

there really isn't.

>>126486069
Haha, you giant fucking pussy. You call isolated monks that give up all worldly possessions to study and sit in spiritual contemplation LARPers? You live in your parent's basement and play video games all day you fucking loser.

>>126489438
No one worships it.
Both catholic and orthodox churches have saints and martyrs
Protestants wont understand saints because protestants only trust their small town preachers.

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>>126490396
Yes they do they are Platonists

LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE

>>126490490
It's really hard to explain iconography to a Prottie

>>126489069
no, it seems like God isn't finishing them off waiting for them to repent, and isntead of letting them grow as Catholics did and does, he put the islamic and communists lids on them.

>>126489177
Good.
Let the unrepentant Bishop of Constantinople repent.
The faster orthodox turns over to Catholicism, the faster will the Bishop of Constantinople be free again. Until then, Catholics have no responsibility.

>>126489659
>go on blindly support the pope he is always right about everything....
Its things like this that show how little you know, your arguments are as bad as protestshit arguments.
But let me educate you since your lying priets won't.
Infalibility only applies to things that don't go against the bible.
Which means, the support of the Pope has to come from the bible.

>>126490335
Yes Peter was the first Patriarch of Antioch.

Recognizing that they're jewligions whose only purpose are to corrupt philosophy.

>>126490311
Pentacoastal is nigger loving bullshit

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>>126490677
Well he Was in charge of Rome Too.
Roma >Antioch
Sorry which city is whiter? that's Right ROMA

AmBROse
“In the city of Rome the episcopal chair was given first to Peter, the chair in which Peter sat, the same who was head--that is why he is also called Cephas [‘Rock’]--of all the apostles, the one chair in which unity is maintained by all. Neither do the apostles proceed individually on their own, and anyone who would [presume to] set up another chair in opposition to that single chair would, by that very fact, be a schismatic and a sinner. . . . Recall, then, the origins of your chair, those of you who wish to claim for yourselves the title of holy Church.”
-St. Optatus, “The Schism of the Donatists,” c. 367 A.D.

“They (the Novatian heretics) have not the succession of Peter, who hold not the chair of Peter, which they rend by wicked schism; and this, too, they do, wickedly denying that sins can be forgiven (by the sacrament of confession) even in the Church, whereas it was said to Peter: 'I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of Heaven, and whatsoever thou shalt bind on Earth, shall be bound in Heaven, and whatsoever thou shall loose on Earth shall be loosed in Heaven.'"
-St. Ambrose of Milan, “On Penance,” 388 A.D.

>>126490311
It's the same wrong heresy.

>>126490856
So your entire argument is the Catholic Church is the one true church because Peter was the Bishop of Rome and the Patriarch of Antioch but since Rome is whiter it's the true church?

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>>126491037
I really see no issue here you're just splitting hairs like the Greeks. Fucking Greeks.

HAHAHAHAHA

>>126490333
perspective?
what perspective?
that kissing the feet of refugees is worse than kissing the feet of a whore?
you're like the Jews of that time who gave Jesus flak for it. You are no Christian, you're a muslim.
4 million people flodding europe, a continent of 743 million people, and the Pope asking to support them is less burden than it was for those who supported Mary and Joseph.

Your "perspective" is laughing and making ridicule of everything Christ acted like. You're no Christian and that's simply because you don't agree with Christ.

>>126480372
Delet this

As a catholic reading about peter and antioch is weird.
Anyways all it proves is the protestants are getting a shitty version of christianity with no real history.

>>126490656
>Lying priests
>Catholic priests rape little boys
>Orthadoxy priests defend Christiany in the Balkans from forced islamization by the Ottomans
Also since the support of the pope has to come with the Bible.The Bible clearly states the following:But the Sodom incident is not the only time the Old Testament deals with homosexuality. An explicit condemnation is found in the book of Leviticus: "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. . . . If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them" (Lev. 18:22, 20:13).
All i see is the Pope supporting homos

>>126490564
look you dumb nigger. I've actually done this thing called "read their gospels" and the bible does it far more than the gnostic ones do.

acts 17:11
1 John 4:1
Proverbs 18:13

fuck, off.

1 Peter 2:11
11 Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul

1 John 2:16
16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Luke 9:25
For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away?


Matthew 6:19-21
19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:

20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Colossians 3:2 Keep your mind on things above, not on worldly things.

Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

Luke 8:14 The seeds that fell among the thorns represent those who hear the message, but all too quickly the message is crowded out by the cares and riches and pleasures of this life. And so they never grow into maturity.

WHAT DID THE BIBLE MEAN BY THIS

>>126479625
anon you spelled something wrong

>>126491501
So you're calling Christian tradition a liar for noting Peter as the first Patriarch of Antioch? This isn't just something the Orthodox believe you know.

>>126490656
>Let the unrepentant Bishop of Constantinople repent.
Patriarch of Constantinople is not the orthodox Pope, the 4 other Patriarchs remained equal, with Patriarch of Constantinople having honorary primacy, not claiming Jesus told him he's to be the God on Earth like the Patriarch of Rome. So you probably want the Patriarch of Alexandria, Patriarch of Antioch, and Patriarch of Jerusalem to bow to the Satan Pope too.

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>>126491704
HERETIC
Just read this and don't come back until you do. He wrote this so I don't have to write back to you.

2000 years and still not refuted by Gnostics
http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103.htm

>>126491820
No im not saying people are lying
I was just saying its interesting
Since protestants have no ties to peter

>>126478861
catholics are fucking normies who endorse homos and sluts, an orthodox priest would probably spit on gays.

>>126492077
its mostly garbage.

>
1 Peter 2:11
11 Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul

man, its almost like Peter thought matter was in war against the soul.


1 John 2:16
16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

what did john mean by this?


Luke 9:25
For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away?


Matthew 6:19-21
19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:

20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Colossians 3:2 Keep your mind on things above, not on worldly things.

Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

Luke 8:14 The seeds that fell among the thorns represent those who hear the message, but all too quickly the message is crowded out by the cares and riches and pleasures of this life. And so they never grow into maturity.

WHAT DID ANY OF THESE PEOPLE MEAN BY ANY OF THIS

read your bible instead of reading some garbage written by an idiot.

>>126492327
I'm sure jesus would too

>>126492327
All churches got corrupted its just the catholic and orthodox are cleaning off the corruption.

>>126492327
what you're really suppose to do is encourage them to stop being gay, and come to repentance before Christ with prayer and fasting, and drive out their demons of homosexuality.

>>126491658
>Catholic priests rape little boys
Catholic priests rape less little boys than teachers do. Thank God I'm not defending that Catholic priests are God and perfect and never commit any sins.

>You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination
>If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination
Hm, it's like the sin is the act of homossexual fornication, and not being homossexual. It's really like the wrong thing, like for heterossexuals, is fornication.

All you see was the Pope telling people there's no wrong in BEING homossexual, which is something you are created as, not something you are forced to act upon.

It's really like we are all not created perfect and must follow Christ to help us not fall prey to our imperfections.

Now, where the fuck did I read that?

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>>126492405
>5 Volumes long

Wow that was fast, Jesus Christ can't you slow down you're just to intellectual for the rest of us.

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>>126478861
Orthodoxy is cucked by the state, and historically has acted cowardly in the face of the False Prophet.

>>126492424
Luke 5
31Jesus answered, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. 32I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”

Luke 9
54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?

55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.

56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.

you know not of the spirit.

>>126492573
>what is a long time ago.

go ahead, and answer the question

1 Peter 2:11
11 Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul

man, its almost like Peter thought matter was in war against the soul.

WHAT DID PETER MEAN BY THIS

>>126492014
Yes.
They all have the same wrong, and all shared the same fates.

The only thing the Catholic Church has to do to become based is let priests marry, it would solve so many problems, maybe once the Western church fixes it's shit we can reunite again and purge islam from the world

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>>126492734
WHAT DID PETER MEAN BY THIS

>>126492586
the catholic church invented Islam.

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>>126492886
Fuck that. I'm not tiding so some guy can buy his kids clothes.

>>126492914
1 Peter 2:11
11 Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul

i wonder if this means that matter is a war against the soul.

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>>126479000

Meant to type "tithing" not "tiding".

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Church of the Subgenius, the only religion that offers eternal salvation or TRIPLE your money back!

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>>126493030
SHEKEL SHEKEL

Brother Nathaniel answer's OP question. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cQzbfFittA

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>>126492586
>that attempt at history
lol

>>126493137
nice argument.

Proverbs 18:13
He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.
Acts 17:11
11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
1 John 4:1
4 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Irenaeus was a false prophet, and a pharisee.

Revelations 2:2
He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.


>typical catholic has to link the talmud instead of linking the bible.

>>126493386
relevation 2:2
2I know your deeds, your labor, and your perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate those who are evil, and you have tested and exposed as liars those who falsely claim to be apostles.

whoops.

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>>126478861
Catholics are gay

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>>126493386
SAINT IRENAEUS REFUTER OF HERESIES

cucktolics are literally faggots

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>>126493664
Satan Irenaeus, false prophet, apostate, and pharisee promoting talmudic culture.

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>>126493824
>says the envious shitskin
NIGGER NIGGER
I
G
G
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>>126483829
Wah wah wah

Remember your roots, luso brother, or should i say... Alberto Barbosa?

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Catholicism. Obviously.

My uncle is orthodox and he recommended catholic to me, after talking about it with him yesterday. He said "he seems like a better fit, they're basically the same anyway". I feel the same way. Orthodox is too eastern for me. They're basically the same theologically.

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>>126493590
Those guys look like faggot larpers.

Gnosticism.

>>126493009
You'll tithe towards starving Africans but not towards a priest taking care of potential children he could have?

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I dunno. You tell me.

>>126494100
I'm white. try again.

>>126478861

Neither.

Subscribing to the idea of religion at this point in time is degenerate.

Cherry pick the best traits of all religions and live a happy life.

>>126494266
There are western rite Orthodox churches if your issue is how the services are done. Heck apparently here in the US a ton of former Episocopals are talking to the Orthodox about possibly joining them. Orthodoxy could become a bigger staple here if that happens.

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Cucktholic Church:

1. Spent centuries selling (((indulgences))) (a literal extortion racket);

2. Financed crusades to secure a monopoly over pilgrimage (gibsme shekels, goyim);

3. Presided over the largest pedophilia ring in history, and protected pedo priests (Podesta would be proud);

4. Current pope is icon of cuckoldry (kiss groid and mudslime feet goyim);

5. Catholic politicians are raging leftists (Kennedys), will even shill for abortion for enough shekels;

It is the largest, most successful, and longest running criminal organization of all time. Even Rothschilds are jealous of how much papists have gotten away with.

Meanwhile, who caught flack for calling out the Cucktholic church and its crimes, and for exposing the schemes of the (((chosen))), pic related?

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>>126494148
>>126494100
why is Catholicism merging with Islam?

>>126478861

Until Pope Francis, Catholicism.

Now, Orthodox.

Pope Francis is to the Vatican what Trudeau is to Canada. A total embarrassment.

>>126494739
I saw an orthodox mass in English and it was very.. different and i didn't feel conntected to it while at a catholic mass (especially latin) I did.

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>>126494266
For westerners and protestants it is true, Catholicism would be probably easier as Catholics have lots of Dogma set by the Pope and not open for interpretations. They are much more focused on the Bible too.

On the other hand I can't say theologies are completely identical, for example Catholic God is angry at the fallen man and has to be satisfied by sacrifice, while in Orthodoxy God is devastated by the fall of man and His Son sacrifices himself out of pure love to redeem the man from Death and sin. Orthodoxy is much more about love for God than avoiding punishment.

>>126494864
>>126494983
you can spot the deranged heretical magapies by how they try to put religion and politics on the same level
poor little souls, i will pray for you
repent

>>126495045
There's even Orthodox Latin mass although not sure how common it is. The Orthodox approved of several different western rite groups. It's not exactly the largest group in the world but with so many unhappy Catholics and Anglicans I won't be surprised to see it become a lot more common.

>>126494544
seems more like good ol' Francis was just trying to tell Trump how his wall should be like.
After all, if a wall is comming up, let it be a Christian one.

Just add loudpseakers with gregorian chants in the middle of the desert and it's set.

>>126495152
Dude its the exact same god for both

>>126495152
>They are much more focused on the Bible too.
i've never had a catholic use the bible in a debate about religion, and they only link what is basically talmudic books like against heresies

>>126495165

Enjoy licking the feet of a man who kisses the feet of rapist immigrants.

>>126495152
jesus fucking christ you know NOTHING about what you're actually talking about
your post is 100% pure heresy
you got raised by pigs or something, because no fucking chance you actually believe what you just posted, it's some grade A ignorance right there m8

>>126479000
trips. fpbp.

>>126478861
>>>/x/

>>126494864
>1. Spent centuries selling (((indulgences))) (a literal extortion racket);
Just let it go. Why won't you let it go? Why do you need to bring up the past all the time like there are no present arguments to use against the Catholic church.

2. Financed crusades to secure a monopoly over pilgrimage (gibsme shekels, goyim);
NOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...

3. Presided over the largest pedophilia ring in history, and protected pedo priests (Podesta would be proud);
Funny thing, is that if protestants were united, they would be the ones with the largest ring considering the insidence of pedophiia amognst protestant churches is higher.

4. Current pope is icon of cuckoldry (kiss groid and mudslime feet goyim);
>Current Jesus is icon of beta faggot (kiss whore's feet)

5. Catholic politicians are raging leftists
Most catholics in america voted for Trump

It's not a criminal organisation.

>Meanwhile, who caught flack for calling out the Cucktholic church and its crimes, and for exposing the schemes of the (((chosen))), pic related?
Never actually did anything against the Jews. Only spoke and ranted about it like an angry beta nerd.
Meanwhile divided Christians.

Good goy.

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>>126495594
your hatred consumes you from within, this is not what the Lord wants for you my friend
your hatred comes from your firmly beliefs on earthily wealth and possession, you accuse the others of taking what you think is rightfully yours, that's why you loathe black people, immigrants and anything that threatens to clash with "your" property
you need to let it go, anon
no one defends rapist immigrants, jesus himself would have whipped and bashed the skulls of these sinners, but he'd also love and forgive those who are not guilty
your generalization is the clear sign of a troubled man who cannot see the little good in the world, a jaded, cynical man who lost his faith and now pursues only what he knows best: hatred and anger towards his finctional enemies
there is a cure for all of this my friend, seek yourself the truth and insight through enlightenment and faith, learn that the world is less shitty than you actually believe, and how the world can be made a better place by good actions and faith

>>126495541
true, they are far from protestant level of bible focus but are "ahead" of the orthodox in that matter. orthodox focus on the church and monastic practices to keep the original spirit/attitude/mindset of the church and than interpret texts through that rather than through intellectual analysis.

it's an idea that for example if you acquire 4chan spirit by hanging here every day, you can interpret the subtle meaning of a memes better than analyzing it literally word by word.

>>126495165

good goy, keep tithing those shekels to the (((One True Church)))

Why do you pasta flags get so defensive over the most rotten, corrupt organization to ever blight Europa? It is a blatant criminal enterprise, and the only way you can defend it is by shoving spaghetti in your ears and shouting "heresy!"

>>126488811
Thank you for the words, anon, thanks a lot. May Jesus be with you.

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>>126494515
The fuck are you talking about, faggot?
Tithes go to the upkeep of the church/chapel.

>>126496076
>Meanwhile divided Christians.Good goy.

Right, better a unified church so the (((pope))) can have all Europeans submit like good cucks at the same time. Makes it easier to extort them.

I hope cardinal sarah becomes pope. First black pope fuck yeah.

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>>126496812
better have Christians divided, weak and submited to heads of state?

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>>126496372
because we understand more than you can possibly know
we weren't raised by WASPies and baby boomers, we know why you protestant millennials feel in that way, and how to overcome it
you're just the product of centuries of bad propaganda against the catholic church from heretical separatists, mixed with a very heavy dose of 4chan jaded cynicism and hatred

>>126495729
which part pizza man? the angry god?
>The satisfaction theory of atonement is a theory in Christian theology that Jesus Christ suffered crucifixion as a substitute for human sin, satisfying God's just wrath against man's transgression due to Christ's infinite merit.

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>>126496634
I'm talking about this little handy fact chart. Most does go towards the parish but not all of it.

>>126496881
honestly this
I don't think any good Pope will come out of the west soon.
We need Pope from a place were AIDS, rape and hunger is a thing. If not, Schönborn seems like a good option too, though I doubt a Germanic Pope will come next.

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>>126496812
Fuck off, stormkike.

>>126478861
Orthodoxy by far.

>>126478861
Catholic, unless you are greek or slavic than go orthodox.

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>>126497214
Well, in that case, I'm fine with it. Paying for the civilization of African savages seems like a better investment than designer clothing.

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>>126497312

Good, I struck a nerve. The only way to get something through the thick skull of a papist.

>>126497269
He wants to changeg the mass again to have the priest face God during mass instead of the people. That alone is enough to get my vote. But he's also free from the gay agenda. A good conservative cardinal.

>>126497577
Why do you assume a priest would buy designer clothes for his kid if he had kids? Why would you care when he's earned the money anyway by serving your parish?

>>126497673
Bad that you think kissing feet is cuckoldry.
I wonder what you'd think of Jesus kissing a whore's feet? A beta whiteknight?

You're not protestant, not even Christian. You're just a troll.

>>126497707
>He wants to changeg the mass again to have the priest face God during mass instead of the people
Wouldn't that make it hard for people to hear?

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>>126497673
You don't even know what's going on in that picture. It's an act of humility. He kissing African feet because they're the most uncivilized. At the parish level the priest is supposed to kiss homeless men's feet if they're available.

>>126498589
The priest would still face the people during the homily. The mass until the 1960s was always facing the altar. It's more respectful to God.

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>>126498589
???
No.

damn son

So, I was wondering if I went to Novus Ordo Mass. ANd I kneeled for communion instead of take it in my hand, would I catch a lot of attention?

>>126498389
>>126498675

Big difference between humility and submission. One is a virtue, the other is an act of political theater. Guess which one Jesus did, and guess which one the current (((pope))) is doing? Francis makes it a point to seek out the feet of the people doing irreparable damage to Europa.

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>>126499318
It depends on the parish. I've heard of some horror stories where the priest forces the communicant to stand. On the other hand, some parishes it's common to see both.

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>>126499451
Perhaps, but that still doesn't justify your stormkikery. The Jews have been trying to subvert the Church for as long as Her existence.

>>126499471
Thanks. I'm asking because the nearest novus ordo is only a 10 minute walk away. And it's starting to look good to not have to take a bus an hour for a latin mass...

>>126494864
He allied with the Ottomans forbad drinking booze and drawing art. Sounds Islamic to me.

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>>126499921
No problem, don't be surprised if after your first trip that hour long bus ride doesn't seem so bad though.

>>126479625
nigga what

>>126499451
irreparable damage to europe?
lol what
these people were actual refugees, not some dickhead looking for German gibs me dat. what irreperable damage to europe have any of those people did?

and what basis do you have to say it's a political issue for the Pope? What does he have to gain from it?

>>126499735
>The Jews have been trying to subvert the Church for as long as Her existence.

Guess what? They succeeded. Especially with this current (((pope))). But just because the organization has been subverted doesn't mean that Christians can't fight back.

>>126482904
>Yea because Martin Luther decided to abandon Catholicism even though he was a monk for no fucking reason am I right?
Luther was right about the abuses in the indulgences (and it was fixed). He was wrong about everything else.

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>>126500435
The current Pope could be luring liberals out into the open so that my order will crush them. You know nothing of fighting back. You only know of being a golemish slave --a kikish bitch-boy, like your stormkike master, that faggot, Hitler.
Take your sales pitch to somebody in your own league.

>>126482613
kewl
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lepanto

>>126478861
Both syncretized Babylonian paganism

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>>126478861
may the lord god Jesus Christ give me the strength to smite down Roman Popery

>>126501069
If if if if in hell

>>126501817
Based Cromwell.

>>126500324

More rapefugees = more converts = more shekels. What's the difference between an "actual refugee" and the "gibsmedats?" What happens when they multiply and compete with European children for your jobs and homes? There is no such thing as a "harmless" refugee.

The (((papacy))) has no incentive to preserve Europa or its people anymore, if it ever really did.

>>126501069

Good luck with that. The incense, rituals, and idols have rotted your delusional brain. You don't beat back Islamic hordes by licking their toes, like (((Francis))) the shill.

>>126478861

Matthew 23:9 - And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

Why is this so difficult to understand?

When the veil ripped at the crucifixion, it meant all could reach God through the blood of Jesus Christ. All can reach God through prayer in Jesus' name. All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

Jesus is the only way to heaven. Pure through faith in the grace of Jesus Christ.

State-run religion is not furthering the kingdom of God.

Was raised both and went Orthodox when Che Guevara became pope.

>>126478861
Catholicism

>>126503303
He's temporary. SArah will be next pope and will fix the faith. They have the buildings, we have the faith. The arian heresy happened and infected the church from the top down. It's happening again.

We need ad orientum. NOW. It's no longer a debate.in itself, combined with kneeling communion, would ifx the church.

>>126502248
What's the difference between a refugee and an economic migrant? Are you serious? Google it.

>What happens when they multiply and compete with European children for your jobs and homes? There is no such thing as a "harmless" refugee.

Hows that different from my neighbours children?
Or anyones' children?
you're going to tell me now how I should care more about my neighbour's children than foreign children because my neighbour shares my culture and I agree, then let us focus on that problem.

Now what happens if they don't adopt your culture and just become gypsies 2.0? Send them back. Refugees are only refugees for as long as the threat to their lives is active. Since most of them are fleeing from war, they will stop being refugees the moment it ends.

You're really obsessed with the Pope kissing their feet but haven't argued in any way how's that different from Jesus kissing the feet of a whore. You said it's political without showing why it's political.

Was giving shelter to Mary and Joseph a political move?

Any fulton j sheen fans?

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>>126479000
FPBP

>>126502646
>i don't call my own dad father because God will be angry at me
you're dumb
Jesus is the only way to heaven, didn't not prevented Jesus from naming Peter the head of the church.
What state religion? You do realise the only states that run religion are protestant countries, right?

>>126483581
Mary was never meant to be worshipped. To worship her as a sort of diety is a sin, technically. As such, alot of Catholic worship is technically idolatry. The virgin Mary was certainly a real person, but she was never intended to attain sainthood.

>>126506107
well, worship requires deities, so at best you're accusing catholics of considering Mary a deity, which they don't.
And Mary is indeed a Saint because assumption.

Mary is in heaven.
She is not a god but she is with God.
Prayers to Mary are pleas for Mary to intercede for us to God because Catholics think they are not worthy of doing it themselves.
Deal with it.

>>126504537

If you think the refugees are ever going to go back, think again. Nobody in the Western world has the balls to send them back. They are permanent, they are going to multiply, and they are going to change Europe and the USA forever.

Here's a question: why is the (((pope))) a south American this time? Why the obsession with Africans, south Americans, and other third-world gems?

European people are abandoning the church in droves, after centuries of corruption, so somebody has to pay the bills.

>>126507851
>They are permanent
You're thinking a worst case scenario, which is fine, but fact is we haven't reached that point and if we do reach that point and still "don't have the balls" to send them back, then we deserve it. I choose to have the balls to be able to help those who need and show the door to those who don't.

The problem is that most are not refugees, they are economic migrants, and concentrate around Germany and other such places.

Real refugees are scattered around Europe and it's easier to integrate those.

I work at a local center for migrant integration and we work with refugees as well and I can say that most """refugees""" that come to Portugal leave for Germany in the following days, but the real ones stay, and what they want is not to stay secluded in their houses.

Why can't the Pope be a south American?
What's the obession with Europe? If anything the next Pope should come from a grittier place than Argentina.

And there's good to be found in a smaller church. Being Catholic isn't easy, and in the end only the hard workers will stay and the church will become better until it starts to attract people agian.

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>>126479000
*tips fedora*

>>126478861
>Orthodoxy or Catholicism?
Given a choice between the 2, I would definitely choose Orthodox. But they're not 'based' because they are both Christian

>>126480251
Who the fuck told you that we believe that? That's literally going against Christ's teachings, he despited the Jews for being so up their ass and embracing degeneracy.

More like the contrary, it seems like 90%of the orthodoxs i encounter are muh church is the perfect one and everything else is heresy. Both have their flaws, catholicism and Jews lately (even though one could argue that it depends since they often sell themselves for personal interests) and orthodoxs and Russians, Kirill is literally ex KGB for fucks sake, not the mention when you bring up communism into the equation.

Bottom line is people are flawed and stupid, instead of claiming perfection people should just remember Christ's teachings, that's why probably the Church splitted itself up in the first place.

>>126509473

You've got a lot of faith, and you walk the walk. I just hope that your faith will be rewarded, because at least from this Amerifat burger's perspective, the (((church))) is stabbing the European people in the back.