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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm
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fuck off
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>>126468154

Be nice comrade, I love you.
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Are these just troll threads or are there actual leftists who come here to discuss ideas.
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>>126468086
Because every time Communism was tried, it worked, am I right?
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How will communism help me find a qt3.14 gf like this one?
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>>126469745
Spainfag and Finlandfag seem to only be interested in discussing Stalinism. Bringing up any other types of Marxist and left wing philosophy gets silence.
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>>126468086

You're never leaving, are you?
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>>126469861
In his 1998 book Russia in Collapse, Solzhenitsyn excoriated the Russian extreme right's obsession with anti-Semitic and anti-Masonic conspiracy theories.

Every culture has its own brand of anti-Semitism. In Solzhenitsyn's case, it's not racial. It has nothing to do with blood. He's certainly not a racist; the question is fundamentally religious and cultural. He bears some resemblance to Dostoyevsky, who was a fervent Christian and patriot and a rabid anti-Semite.
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Communism is the nigger of political systems.
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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
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Communism is Jewish
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>>126468086
What do you do for a living?
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>>126468086
Why you change your flag to Finland the other date?
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>>126468086
(you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you) (you)
sage
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>>126471104
both the finn and spaniards will never answer the question because guess what: they are unemployed, possibly on welfare or their parents money
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>>126469750
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbZXFjIzzzc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcebhfOhPMo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHhtLCgYrW8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsE8nFX5xD8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kj8knZILd8
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>>126471860
>believing in western propaganda
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>>126470386
>cultural marxism
literally a meme
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>>126472624
>believing in Jew propaganda
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>>126472624
>believing in soviet propaganda
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>>126472487
That is obviously my suspection but I would like to be proven wrong
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>>126468086
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>>126468086
CNT please fuck off
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>>126472624
Stats of deaths were taken by and war crimes committed by ussr were the ussr themselves, and released by the Russian government, what is American about that?
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>>126472739
>implying most anti communists from the cold war were good goys
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>>126474692
fix'd
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>>126469891
The security provided by the welfare state should drastically reduce the number of women who are into relationship simply for the money.
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>>126468086
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Raz sierpem, raz młotem, czerwoną hołotę!
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>>126468086
why do you fags always role play by saying comrades?
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>>126475977
Most of them are literal unironic faggots
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>>126472770
brethren when do we start killing the new wave of communists
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>>126476105
t.turk
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>>126476149
t.not knowing history
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>>126476105
When Golden Dawn gets into power or when the military makes another coup.
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>>126475900
Lepiej wysłać na wycieczkę śmigłowcem.
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Kill all commies
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>>126468086
That what Poland thinking about it:

And on the trees next to the leaves
will be hanging communists!
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>>126476259
Can't wait
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>>126468086
Every fucking day it's the same losers creating this shit thread of a shit ideology. Fuck off back to /leftypol/ or kill yourself.
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> unironically pushing communism

Get a job.
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>>126476392
It will happen sooner or later, Golden Dawn is gaining the peoples support rapidly especially after the last incident in the parliament, and the military is already considering doing a coup. All the military needs is a good excuse to take power, then its ogre.
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>>126475209
pls
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>>126476504
>Get a job
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Uwd0psfyrY&t=420s
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Friendly reminder that this is the spanish faggot weirdo commiecuck starting those threads every day for the past 6 months
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>>126468086
Fuck off
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>>126476504
You should be telling that to capitalists
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>>126468086
Honest question, do you unironically think you are moving your (((cause))) forward by making these copy pasta threads?
You don't even defend your ideology, its just a constant stream of you getting BTFO and no response. I mean at least have a dialog so we can laugh even harder at you.
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>>126476665
I love it when commies try to pin non-capitalism deaths on capitalists kek, because you see comrade everything that isnt communism is capitalism!
>Atlantic slave trade of africans: Done by imperial powers with monarchies.
>Extermination of the indigenous americans: The brits started it who were still monarchists
>Irish potato famine: Monarchy
>British opium wars in china: Imperialist monarchists
>Fascist terror in spain: Fascism
>First world war: Monarchies fighting eachother
etc etc etc
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>>126476936

>t.Jorge Enrique Mendoza Ortiz

lol gtfo of here...
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The bourgeoisie are the class which owns the means of production but does not use them
you can think of the means of production as anything 'used' to generate profit e.g. a factory, a shop, a car, machinery, etc
if you own means of production but are self-employed, and do not employ anyone else, then you are not bourgeois
if you do not literally own means of production but in effect control it, you are bourgeois (e.g. CEOs who do not literally own their companies, but as they run the company they 'own' it in the sense that they decide what is done with it, they decide their own wages, etc)
a good litmus test:
''1. do you work for a wage?
2. do you get to decide your wage?
3. do you get to decide anyone else's wage?''
if yes to 1 but not to 2 or 3, you are not bourgeois
if yes to 1 and 2 but not to 3, you are petit-bourgeois
if yes to all three, you are in effect bourgeois
if you do not work for a wage at all, but rather own the means of production directly, then you are absolutely bourgeois

If you own a small shop that you run for a living making 50k USD a year you are petite bourgois. If you are a heart surgeon making 150k USD a year but you work for a hospital and you aren't in charge of hiring of firing anyone you are fully proletarian. Labour aristocracy maybe but still proletarian.
It is not a question of income, but a question of ones relationship to the means of production.
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>>126477190
Kill yourself kike rat
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>>126477424
"muh judeo-bolshevism"
read this
https://www.amazon.com/Stalin-Enduring-Legacy-Kerry-Bolton/dp/1908476427
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>>126477424
>anyone who opposes capitalism is a kike
W E W
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>>126477577
>>126477721

Oh look it;s another commiecuck tankie neckbeard pretending to be anti semitic. Fuck off cringy lefty/pol/ shitskin
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>>126477577
>>126477721
wait do you commies like kikes or dont like kikes wtf
you do know that kikes are capitalists on steroids right
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Get it in your head you faggot, Marxist was a lazy faggot just like you, his ideas ware shit and the only thing that is even worse than the original are all these mutated versions of this marxist political faggotry seen today in the west. IT DIDN't WORK THE FIRST 15times around, and it never will
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>>126478090
Most commies are against Zionism which is why the USSR sided with Arab nationalists
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>>126478270
which is also why anti-semitism was punishable in the soviet union with a minimum of 10 years prison just for cracking a jew joke
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>>126478270
Why are tankie shitskins so retarded?

>Joseph Stalin adopted a pro-Zionist foreign policy, apparently believing that the new country would be socialist and would speed the decline of British influence in the Middle East.[2] Accordingly, in November 1947, the Soviet Union, together with the other Soviet bloc countries voted in favor of the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine,[3] which paved the way for the creation of the State of Israel. On May 17, 1948, three days after Israel declared its independence, the Soviet Union officially the first country to grant Israel de jure recognition.
>Soviet Union supported Israel in the 1948 Arab–Israeli War with weaponry supplied via Czechoslovakia.[26]
>North Vietnam’s Politburo chairman, Ho Chi Minh, suggested to David Ben-Gurion in 1946 that he proclaim a Jewish Government in Exile, and establish such a government’s headquarters in North Vietnam, Mr. Ben-Gurion revealed last night.
>Communist bloc Israel, In the early Cold War days, Israel appeared to fit in the category of being a “Stalinoid State"
>1947-1948 USSR sole military and politcal supporter of Israel
>Soviet Union led by Stalin politically and militarily supports creation of Israel, under condition that it remains loyal to USSR-socialism
>1947 Soviet Union, together with the other Soviet bloc countries voted in favor of the United Nations Plan for Israel
>1948 Arab–Israeli War, Soviet Union supports Israel and weaponry supplied via Czechoslovakia
>Yitzhak Rabin, an IDF commander said without the arms from USSR via Czechoslovakia... it is very doubtful whether we would have been able to conduct the war
>1948 Soviet Union officially the first country to grant Israel de jure recognition
>1948-1951 Israel is a socialist/marxist state with Stalin portraits and Soviet flags everywhere
>Ben Gurion leader of Israel through Maipai (Poale Zion
>Gurion was a member of the state sanctioned Evreiskaia kommunisticheskaia partiia (Poalei-Tsion) USSR Party.
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>>126477721
>>126478245
>>126478270

Not an argument
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>>126468086
SPANISH
ANARCHOCOMMUNISTS
GET
ELIMINATED
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>>126470569
GREADEZ ALLOY, HOW DU OI BEGUM BRED LINE MANAJER XDDDD
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>>126478270
That isn't even close to true.
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its post dead communist day
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>>126478604
I love this gif :3
<3
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>>126478707
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>>126478652
Breadlines? Must be a cucktalist invention/term. Under Communism food is plentiful and affordable to the masses.
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>>126478498
How was the second one not an argument?
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>>126478800

Shitskin confirmed. Why is lefty/pol/ literally only spics mongrels and trannies? Wtf?
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>>126479014
>opposing imperialism confirms that someone is a shitskin
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>>126478836
bud wid gommieizm yu dun hav senpaitachi begus da stade tags dem away xDDD den da farmerz die doo tu stargation and den no one noooos how tu oberate da farm, leabing du fud shordages xDDD

bervegd zyzdem, gomrade :3
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>>126479175
Whatever go back to your gay little discord group cringy nigger
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>>126475900
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One instituted a campaign of genocide and deliberately starved millions to death, the other was leader of the USSR
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>>126479014
Non-whites in communism is unsurprising. That's been a thing since day one. The tranny thing is odd though. It's not like Stalin or Mao would've given them hormones and pretty dresses and the proletariat isn't going to want to cover such things, especially when here in the US the proletariat would be those damn dirty right wing rednecks they seem to hate so much.
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>>126468086
>spain
>rich off of fascist dictator
>"gib communism"
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>>126478800
>yfw when the true people rise up
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>>126479366
How can I go back to something that I was never in?
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>This thread
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>>126479331
>senpaitachi
god i fucking hate mod edits. that word was meant to be farms.
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>>126479754
baka desu senpai
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>>126480571
>I can buy a toy but can't find food
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>>126480571
I honestly cant tell anymore is this satire?
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I have to ask you commies why you even try here on pol of all places ? you attack whites and shame us and expect us to join you XD never NatSoc and Ancaps along with rightwing will never join or trust you ever ! You post heree thinking you can win this culture war with antifa XD no way we will remake the brownshirts and take the USA ad our victory back to the 1950s plus more and shove all commies that still follow your broken system into the ovens and you will blow away in the wind never to return like a whisper people might think they heard something but all they can hear is the sound of white victory and prosperity with 0% poor 0% without a job & 0% multiculturalism keeping us down !

My List of Videos of what we need to do to keep white culture ! I post this with every post you should copy and paste below this part and spread it all over the net we need to redpill so many still !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4W4D9giUO8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4obeqaxhRs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmGqG3grTrg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPthb7qUpfk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS6HZv4GXj8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx6keHpeYak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW-pw4rRvUI&t=252s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOvbUKkTk-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf8XHeVsMDY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxLqx8xF9Pw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MYxtpGxGJI&t=155s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_yv4Jrqdpw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lij59497MBs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Prc1UfuokY&t=1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2up4-CJ-ok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lka6wG7JTgk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dUv5FcyNM0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6odhGFIND0&t=318s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID7ruPMrAmQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHs2coAzLJ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVFhC4kuYDU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPlTg6tCIh8&t=229s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3VabkjGjoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNPzlFivd3M
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>>126481795
>workers now have the power to give everything they worked for to other people in a corrupt government and starve
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Wanna know the funniest part about this pic? If you compare the number of famine deaths in this pic from the russian revolution up to today, communist famine deaths surpass capitalist famine deaths by a fuck ton.
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>give me your redpills /leftypol/
Specifically, the work you do is always worth more than what you are paid, because the capitalist can sell whatever it is you produce for more than you were paid in wages. The productive forces of our society are controlled by a tiny elite instead of by the people, so what ends up happening is that millions of proles sweat their lives away while the porky bastards windsurf in Hawaii.
To put it in terms you might be more familiar with, capitalists are the ultimate welfare queens.
>my stance on hatred of jews and niggers will never change.
To say that your position on any topic will never change is to declare yourself to be beyond reason. That said, those "jews" and "evil niggers" are your natural allies regardless of what you think about them, because they are being exploited just like you are. The leftist position on racism is as much about pragmatism as it is about a commitment to equality.

The basic gist is that capitalism is inherintly broken.
Companies want to make as much money as possible which means paying works the smallest amount possible.
Eventually workers can't afford to buy things, meaning the whole system collapses.
Currently with automation we are going to see a huge loss of jobs that will make the concept of full employment obsolete - so who is going to buy things?
Communism isn't some grand fucking conspiracy about race or western civilization - its just a question of economics.
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wow if i looked like that I'd be pretty angry at the world too.
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