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>thinks religion is based on faith, while evolution is based

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>thinks religion is based on faith, while evolution is based on science and facts
>believes in dark matter
>believes in dark energy
>believes in quantum magic
>thinks the laws of physics stopped working so planets could form
>thinks like came from non-life
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>can't comprehend logic
>doesn't understand evolution
>no idea about physics
>thinks a sky wizard memed everything into existence
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Simple question, what was the big bang
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dear god my sides
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>>126435719
What I did to your mom last night.
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>>126434573
>thinks religion is based on faith,
Religion is how early leaders socially controlled men and women in thousands of ancient religions. {{{ But not your religion. No, yours was different somehow. Magical even. }}}

>while evolution is based on science and facts
Evolution is a science based on facts

>believes in dark matter believes in dark energy believes in quantum magic
No, dark matter / energy and quantum theory are hypotheses with some plausible evidence to support them. A hypothesis is something you accept/reject. No belief is involved.

Beliefs are irrational.

>thinks the laws of physics stopped working so planets could form
Not everyone accepts/rejects the inflationary universe idea.

>thinks like came from non-life
What you call "non-life" is obviously something you don't understand because of the exceedingly poor way you articulate it.
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>>126437761
>quantum theory is hypothesis with some plausible evidence.

There are literally entire libraries of evidence and a vast number of technological devices utlizing QM. It is not a hypothesis, it is reality
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>>126438556
>It is not a hypothesis, it is reality
I was responding to a belieber in denial. Baby steps.
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>>126434573
> posting on a computer via the internet
> science isn't real
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>>126435515
>sky wizard
Cant comprehend theology or a couple thousand year old book.

Saying god is a "man/wizard in the sky" is like saying the devil is a red man with hooves and horns. Total ignorance. "God" is an unfathomable "being" that ultimately created this universe. We don't even fully understand the universe, so how could we possibly understand the being that created it? The bible says god told Peter "You cannot see My face, for no one can see Me and live.", so no one understands what god truly looks like, but he has shown himself in a form that WE as simple beings can understand. That's why ignorant people think god looks like a bearded man in the sky. Same with the devil. The devil is everywhere and with everyone, the bible says the devil rules this world and it's certainly right. It's just many people misinterpret the bible, especially at an early age, so they misinterpret what exactly Satan and God almighty IS, along with many other misunderstandings about the teachings of Christ and the word of god. Crack it open and maybe you'll actually learn something

>no idea about physics
>doesn't understand evolution
>can't comprehend logic
Pseudo-intellectual plz leave. Implying you know more than the average youtube binge watcher. Yo you checkout that sick new Vsauce video?!

Christopher Langan is VERY possibly the smartest human being on this planet (theres maybe 3-5 other people even close to his level). He has an IQ of around 195-210. That is insane. He says that he believes strongly there IS a heaven. You should delve into his theory of the universe. along with actually reading the bible and attempting to understand. http://www.ctmu.org/

Also, Stay away from the devil, son. And don't be so naive.
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>>126439685
I was merely reacting to how your post seemed give the same credibility to DM/DE hypothesis as to quantum theory, which would be an outrageous statement
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>>126434573
>It's beyond the scope of our understanding
>Must be the single Christian God
Nice logic ya got there
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>>126434573
This thread again.
0/10 b8
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>>126434573
People tend to not believe in what they don't understand. So this isn't an argument it's actually an insight to your level of understanding. If you can't contribute to collective knowledge you're wasting other peoples time.
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>>126434573
>>thinks life [sic] came from non-life

Isn't God supposed to be beyond our universe? Can God really be defined as something alive by that logic?

God = not alive
Created life from non-life

Check mate.
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>>126440293
>Cant comprehend theology or a couple thousand year old book.

You just said it, a book. nothing more.
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>>126434573
> quantum computers and Bose-Einstein condensates don't exist
> life is somehow something different than just a particular order of organic particles

dark matter and dark energy are just hypotheses, we don't know where this extra gravity we can measure comes from nor do we know why the universe is accelerating its expansion.
> evolution
Not even going to bother with this one, there are mountains of evidence, for gods sake 50% of your DNA is letter for letter exactly the same as a banana tree.
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>>126434573
>believes that almighty kike god cares about his masturbation habits
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(((Cosmic Inflation)))
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>>126435515
>Thinks its ridiculous to believe that someone created the world
>Believes the world created by a huge explosion made out of nothing
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>>126440293

Pretty much sums it up. >>126440686
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>>126440686
It's a repository of ancient wisdom and proto-science, there is a reason all the major, real, religions in the world have a similar outlook on the creation of the world.
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>>126440119
>posting on the internet via a computer
FTFY
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>>126435831
BAZOOPER
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>>126440391
>I was merely reacting to how your post seemed give the same credibility to DM/DE hypothesis as to quantum theory, which would be an outrageous statement
No mate, just an understatement on QM. Not like he'd know any difference.
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>>126441074
A book.
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>>126438556
Funny thing is that all the greatest scientist were Christians

Atheist btfo
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>>126440119
b--b-butbut God created the computer.
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>lightning hit a puddle and monkeys walked out
atheists are shamelessly retarded
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>>126441074
>Repository of ancient wisdom
>ancient wisdom
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>>126441200
Yeah ok but what about the content ?
Would you be more receptive to a PDF or something ?
I don't have a religion by the way.
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I can't wait for people to discuss harry potter thousands of years from now. It's fucking real ok
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>>126441289
No.
They were jews.
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>>126435719

a theory of cosmology

with some experimental support but still far fetched and under validated
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>>126435515
>Logic
You said this because you think it makes you sound smart
>Doesn't understand evolution
What's not understood?
>No idea about physics
At least this is relevant. Since you seem to be the only one who understands, where is the unifying theory? How accurate is the big bang theory? How did the moon form? Does the idea of dark matter make sense, or is it more likely that we may have a fundamental flaw in our understanding of the physical laws of nature?
>Blah blah blah.
Blah blah blah
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>>126434573
>believes in dark matter
>believes in dark energy
These are actually good points. Both of these were invented to solve failures in cosmological models to accurately model their respective phenomena. There's no actual evidence for them and they're undetectable for oddly convenient reasons, so they're basically just correction factors in some equations to fix a bunch of fuck ups. Theoretical physics has reached the point where it's so abstract and complicated that you need a new multibillion dollar particle accelerator to feasibly test even the simplest of its claims and the theory consistently outpaces the experiments. Physicists continue piling on new components to the theory, taking it even farther outside the realm of testability, which they get attached to and don't want to admit could be wrong. String Theory is pretty much science fiction at this point. And eventually you reach the point where testing things becomes impossible and we reach a soft barrier to scientific knowledge, which is probably coming soon.

The rest of OP is creationist bait.
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>>126437761
>Evolution is a science based on facts

evolution is a theory reliant on scientific principles based on fossile findings and causal deductions, but it's not a science in itself
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>>126441409
>religions have no basis in antediluvian and are just retarded fairy tales
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>>126441373
Thats how dog food was made. Proof you don't read the bible.
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>>126441289
What God was he talking about?
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>He doesn't know that dark matter is actually large amounts of H2 (hydrogen molecules)
>which explains the redshift we see with distant observation
>big bang is a bullshit lie sold to normies
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>>126434573
Why was Big Bang?
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>>126441655
why would I read the bible when I'm buddhist
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>>126441465
>Georges Lemaître
>Werner Heisenberg
>Jew

Go back to pleddit cunt
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>>126440293
>Cant comprehend theology
We've all seen the circus side shows, the carnival barkers, the superstitious beliefs and performance art rituals. Very elaborate, or as Shakespeare might have said of it, "it is a tale
told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
signifying nothing."

>or a couple thousand year old book.
Usually nothing but anthologies of immoral tales and supernatural nonsense.
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>>126434573
The good part about science is that "I don't know" is an acceptable substitute for the time between now and the explanation of why something does what it does.
Now with religion... how would God almighty and his/her/zxr descendants not have all the answers?
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>>126441789
which ever book it is this century
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>>126441373
Shut up ladyboy your opinions mean nothing to anyone on this planet and beyond
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>>126440293
>"God" is an unfathomable "being" that ultimately created this universe.
If your gods are "unfathomable", how is it you know so much meta-nonsense about them? Pretense and conjecture?

That's what I thought.
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>>126441626
>just retarded fairy tales
They aren't retarded. They are entertaining.

People who actually take the book seriously are indeed retarded
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>>126441289
I am not an atheist
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>please explain dimensions 5-11 "scientists"
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>>126437761
Serious question if evolution is fact, why is homosexuality still around? Seems unwillingness to reproduce would eliminate that rather quickly.
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>>126440485
>Must be the one Christian God
Why not? How far back can we even know? Why aren't we all a part of some program? What if Reality came ready made just 15 minutes ago with the push of a button? Which makes the most sense?
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>>126442397
Homosexual don't produce homosexuals, nature does. it doesn't work that way
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>>126434573
Interesting how evolutionists never try to breed new species.
Faith-based theories fly so much better without reproducible evidence.
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>>126434573
Think you know anything?Tom Cambell.
My-big-toe.forum
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>Science
Makes up dark matter, dark energy dimensions, strings and multiverses to make maths work.
Sounds like a Jewish religion to me
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>>126442397
Homosexuality is social not biological.
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>>126440293
>other people misunderstand it
>but I cracked the code!
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>>126442751
Hitler called it "Jewish Physics" - manipulating symbols on a chalkboard.
Cancer on our civilization.
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>>126441594
>String Theory is pretty much science fiction at this point

Yes but we know this. Physicists make a distinction between tested things like Relativity or quantum mechanics (although interpretations of some of the findings are not accepted) and far-fetched explanations like String Theory that aren't testable.
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>>126442751
Not all of science is cosmology and string theory faggot

t. condensed matter master race
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>>126441594
This guy gets it. It's like taking medicine for a disease.
>Take medicine
>Take medicine for side effects
>Take medicine for new medicine's side effects
>Take medicine........
>Side effects.....
There comes a point where starting from scratch is the best idea.
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>>126435719
The expansion of space.
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>>126442597
evolving new types of e coli is standard stuff for biology majors these days
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>>126442597
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14094-bacteria-make-major-evolutionary-shift-in-the-lab/
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>>126442929
String theory isn't testable but that doesn't stop millions from being invested to research it.
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>>126442597
>Interesting how evolutionists never try to breed new species.
Modern agriculture is one big example of that you bloody drongo, you think crops are naturally like that and not genetically selected over thousands of years in some cases?

You think cows and chickens are that large naturally? Even horses have been specifically biologically chosen for breeding for like 5k years.

You need to read a book or something.
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>>126443026
e. coli are not sexually reproducing species.
They trade DNA by eating each other.
The basic form doesn't change.
You can't create a new type of multicelluar organism by breeding.
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My favourite is Hawking.

>mocks theists for believing in things without evidence
>unironically believes in aliens and parallel universes, and does so publicly
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>>126442597
dogs and crops
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>>126435515
Can physic explain biogenesis?
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>>126443832
No
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>>126435515
>thinks a sky wizard memed everything into existence

Why do atheists use the same jokes over and over again?
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>>126438556
Really? Schrodinger's cat was thought experiment to illustrate the short comings of qm. Now that short coming has been memes into multiple ridiculous theories that for some reason are taken seriously.
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>>126443426
you are just shifting the goal posts m8
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>>126434573
Have you ever seen a superconductor in action?
Quantum magic is real.
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>>126443083
that's not a new species retard
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>>126442397
>Serious question if evolution is fact, why is homosexuality still around?
Homosexuality occurs in a lot of mammal species, particularly male bats. Maybe they are born that way.

Evolution often results in what we perceive to be unnecessary plumage, vestigial appendages and all sorts of other by-products we don't fully understand.

>Seems unwillingness to reproduce would eliminate that rather quickly.
Reproduction is necessary for survival, but in K-selected species like ours, not all the males or females are needed for reproduction. In fact, they might be genetic switches for population control - something that r-selected species lack.


Seems unwillingness to reproduce would eliminate that rather quickly.
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>>126444254
It has also been memed into the device you use to shitpost from everyday, as well as literally millions of experiments all verifying the predictions of QM. Just because you find the conclusions from a particular thought experiment absurd doesnt make it less real. Now go try wrap your head around entanglement and get in on the real weird shit
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>>126444329
Do a google search, bacteria are not species.
Really there is a continuum from totally fluid bacteria stable species which evolution specifically claims to explain.
No one denies species change, but the higher you go the stricter the limits.
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Explain this faggots.

Protip: You can't.
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>>126443832
It's called abiogenesis, which is greek for "originating from non-life." Biogenesis is how all life reproduces right now.

>>126444254
Schrodinger's cat was a criticism of the philosophical interpretations of quantum mechanics. One frustrating thing that most people tend to misunderstand is that QM is a mathematical model using to describe the behavior of particles. The interpretations of it are not a fundamental part of the theory at all.
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>>126443426

>sexual reproduction
what's the relevance of how an organism reproduces with respect to if it is able to evolve, in your opinion

>they trade DNA by eating each other
its done by conjugation which isnt "eating"

>basic form doesn't change
some of the basic forms do change, if you read the research data

>can't create a new type
if you read the article i posted what happened is that they did discover a new type which developed over 31,000 generations

its one thing to propose an opposing opinion, but its another thing to not include new information that has validity -- the later is dogmatic thought, and it leads to getting stuck in a pattern thats not functional, i.e., islam

pic related; sure wouldnt mind mixing up some dna with that organism
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>>126443426
>What is dog breeds
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>>126445080
I heard dolphins fuck each other's blowholes from time to time.
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>>126445202
Explain This

protip: you can't
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>>126445427
Dogs are all same species, and one of the more plastic. Breeders pushed the envelope on dogs to the limit.
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>>126434573
https://youtu.be/VUfNEHl44hc

On need to be educated on evolution.
Don't forget millions and millions in years mate.
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Does space end?
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>>126434573
>doesn't understand the holo-fractal vortical multiverse
>2.017 x 10^3
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>>126440293
>"You cannot see My face, for no one can see Me and live.", so no one understands what god truly looks like
You seem so certain about your gods, but we know they are fabricated from
the imaginations of Bronze Age shepherds and Iron Age nomads.
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>>126445877
But by selectively breeding specimens, we actually managed to establish separate genetical islands. 2 german shepherds will breed a german shepherd . It's essentially evolution but on a small timescale

How about you take some highschool level biology classes
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>>126446088
The visible universe that we're occupying is expanding faster than the laws of physics would allow you to travel, so you conveniently can't get to the edge. The shape of the whole universe, both visible and invisible, is unknown and probably unknowable.
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>>126434573
Yeah tldr but who else is excited for the webb telescope i think its called?
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>>126434573
Plenty of evidence against big bang theory.
Too many free parameters to be meaningful.
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>>126441289
>44784ceb2cbab5505b30aa7c6(...).jpg
False. Heisenberg never said that. It was falsely attributed to him by lying Christians. Just another example of dishonest theism in action.
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>>126446769
>>126446769
maybe; unlikely

i really doubt that humans have devised the technology necessary to make any kind of resolute conclusion about things of such scale in both physical distance and duration of time

i think what pisses me off is that some scientists make some gains towards improving our understanding but then "cast it in stone" as if all the data was in

we can't even predict local weather sometimes
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>>126447014
Very
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>>126446769
By the time you get half-way to the end, it will already be heading back your way from heat death and collapse at a rapidly diminshing time dilation.
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>>126446702
Breed a cat from dog and you win the nobel prize. I can't help you bro.
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>>126441200
So is whichever publication of Stephen Hawking. Just a book.
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>>126442938
>Science
"Corrects" temperature data to show warming that fits the models
Sounds like a Jewish religion to me
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>>126446702
breed an asian with an asian and you get an asia, white with white and you get white, but you have asian guys fuck white girls
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>>126447433
ebin trell m8
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>>126447376
There's no convincing evidence that contraction will ever happen. It's just as untestable as dark energy causing the universe to rip apart. Heat death is the unrelated phenomenon of all mechanical energy being used up and entropy hitting its maximum value for the whole universe, which happens in some form for every possible scenario for the end of the universe regardless of what the overall shape is.
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>>126447822
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>>126440293
>hat's why ignorant people think god looks like a bearded man in the sky. Same with the devil.
Isn't that exactly the way religious people paint their gods and devils? I guess we can agree to agree they are stupid.

>the bible says the devil rules this world
Why can the omnipotent gods rule this world? Not omnipotent enough?

> It's just many people misinterpret the bible,
By reading the bible's exact words? But isn't that precisely what you're asking people to do? Read it for themselves?

>Christopher Langan is VERY possibly the smartest human being on this planet
Trump says Trump is and Trump has the highest IQ. We've learned to be wary of Dunning-Kruger fuckwits like your Langan fellow.

>He says that he believes strongly there IS a heaven.
Beliefs are irrational.
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>>126447950
After maximum entropy has been reached the resulting false vacuum will give rise to quantum fluctuations such as virtual particle pairs that fail to self annihilate, that will inevitably create an entirely new universe with extremely high initial expansion.
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I think there could be an intelligence behind the creation of our universe.
>lol at your Flying Spaghetti Monster contard. who created your "God" costard? did Mr & Mrs God birth him and send him to God schools as he grew up?
then where did it all come from if not God?
>Big Bang-expansion-formation of stars, galaxies, planets, etc.
where did the Big Bang come from?
>DON'T YOU KNOW ANYTHING?! Our universe fissioned off from another universe.
where did that universe come from?
>IT'S ALL PART OF AN INFINITE MULTI-VERSE MORON!?
where did the multiverse come from? I mean, at some point, there was nothing, right? then a multiverse sprang into existence? who or what created it?
>Why do you hate science and cool black guy scientists who hang out with Seth MacFarlane?
fuck
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>>126435719
An idea made up that explains everything in existence just materializing into existence at one point, but not why,how.
>But a god, is hard to swallow
Atehists believe dumb shit too
>But but, if if if
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>>126441021
>Believes
It's a hypothesis, something you accept or reject after examining the evidence.

/pol/ is crawling with cognitively challenged theists who claim Newton's laws of motion as proof of Acquinas' causality. However, the inflationary universe they hypocritically despise so much is based on the 2nd and 3rd laws of motion.

>the world created by a huge explosion
The universe is expanding at an accelerating rate suggesting some sort of even that pushes it out from the middle. What comes to mind when we think of an explosion produces the same sort of accelerated expansion in the initial stage, so it's a fair analogy.

>made out of nothing
No, no legitimate scientist claims the cosmos expanded out of nothing. The point where most accept the expansion started, all the atoms of the universe were in existence already.

Theist believe there was "nothing" because this is their creation story, that their gods appeared out of nowhere and created the universe from nothing (the void). While this is a more entertaining tale for children, adults should be ashamed for being this gullible.
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>>126437761
>You
Believe everyhting that scientists cant explain, and crazy theories they made up because they cant explain the most important things that explain why we're here
>you
You dumb religious people, believing things you cant prove and a dumb book written 2k years ago as fact.
>see why i think you are an ididot?
Plenty of religious "facts" and just theories that some theologians agree and other disagree, same with science
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>>126434573
>Thinks life came from non-life

Are you arguing against atoms anon?
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>>126435719
a lie
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>>126451021
>Believe everyhting
The hallmark of an atheist is his failure to believe. You must be thinking of gullible religious twats.

>that scientists cant explain,
There's an ever-receding pool of those kinds of things, yet you still claim your gods live in the gaps. Newsflash - no scientific explanation has ever been replaced later on by a supernatural one.

>and crazy theories
The word theory implies a hypothesis with some form of proof or evidence.

>they made up because they cant explain the most important things
This is the actual definition of religion

>that explain why we're here
Philosophy is the science that does that.
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>>126440293
So Langan is a Christian or does he just believe in a deity? If he's a Christian I'm fascinated to know why he chose that one over the thousands of other current and ancient world religions.
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So do you theists think God individually placed every piece of matter, purposefully and meticulously arranged everything the way he wanted it?
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>>126434573
Evolution is based on science and facts. Why do you religitards get so easily confused when talking about evolution and the Big Bang theory, they're completely separate, as is abiogenesis
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>>126441919
>performance art rituals
>tale told by an idiot
Many of the "rituals" as you call them were originally put into the bible by the disciples as a test of faith when Christianity had mere dozens/hundreds of followers. Yet still there's something very spiritually fulfilling and mentally uplifting about some of them even now, such as being baptized. It was a way for people to turn their thoughts of becoming a better person and their desire to be "good" into real world actions. Also, Jesus was far from an idiot.
>>126442097
You expect the creator of the everything in this chaotic yet structured WORLD to look like US? Or to be easy to understand? There's a reason Jesus was a PROPHET. Son of god. If you read the words of Christ you can get a sense of what exactly god (and satan etc) is. It's definitely not some human looking fella in the sky. The bible is not NEARLY as simple as people want to believe. I bet you also think the
entire bible is supposed to be interpreted literally.

Do you really believe the reason we're here talking to each other and the reason the universe is the way that it is is because in the BEGINNING we and everything thats ever been or will be was condensed into an unfathomably small unfathomably hot unfathomably dense 'point' that was both nowhere and everywhere at the same time? Then for NO explainable reason it expanded at unimaginable speeds, creating all the natural laws, establishing the physics of this world etc, eventually creating life on it's own from no living thing? Reminds me of the very BEGINNING of the bible "in the beginning there was the word, and the word was god, and the word was with god" .... "and then god said, let there be light, and then there was light" also god telling one of jesus' disciples "Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding, Who set its measurements? Or who stretched the line on it?" STRETCHED the LINE...set it's measurements.. think about it.
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>>126449666
theoretically

we wont be around to see it
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>>126453456
> science and facts
those things are not what you think they are. Science is facts plus proof.

Evolution is science because it has been proven. You can say about God that it's a fact and you could be right, but it's not science because there is no proof.
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>>126453456
>Why do you religitards get so easily confused when talking about evolution
Religious people can't argue against non-belief because atheism is so eminently sensible and they are not. However, because of their dire cognitive shortcomings, they imagine that they can argue against the sciences, like biology (evolution), physics, cosmology, etc.

So their feeble tactic is to lump atheism together with one of these theories for which they have a canned meme or copy/pasta attack, ostensibly contrived by another one of their cognitively-diminished kind.

In their end, they merely pollute the discussions with garbage while their Dunning-Kruger confidence and extreme confirmation bias prevent them from learning anything of value.
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>>126434573
>>126435719
>Ameridumb education
Did you learn about creationism in school?
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>>126453098
Do you atheists really believe that you're alive because a star billions of lightyears away exploded and some carbon landed on earth? Do you really believe the universe somehow created a microscopic form of life from nothing that was able to not only make more of itself, but get smarter through the process of evolution? Eventually being able to not only become complex single celled organisms, but becoming so intelligent they were able to somehow know to combine themselves and work as a single functioning super organism? Giving birth to species firstly like the sea sponge and then eventually the human being? And you don't call that a miracle or the act of an unfathomable and all powerful force?

Do you atheists really believe 'you' and your being/consciousness was simply a sperm cell? all that you are and ever will be was once a single tiny cell with just a few basic instructions encoded? What about before that sperm cell was developed inside your father? Were you really a cheese puff that your dad ate and turned into chemical energy by the process of digestion and also used that energy to strip nutrients and minerals away from the cheesepuff in order to create complex microscopic cellular building blocks that eventually became the one/100000000 sperm cells that eventually became you? Don't be so damn naive!
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>>126435719
>big bang
a catchy pejorative term for the hypothesis that the universe expanded from a point singularity
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>>126453928

>You expect the creator of the everything
I expect no creator.

>in this chaotic yet structured WORLD
If this is what we observe repeatedly in nature, then then universe is apparently not as "chaotic" as it was once perceived to be.

>to look like US?
Men who create gods create them in man's own image. Some zany religions claim their gods created man in their own images.

Logically, if one god created a religion, there'd be only one religion. When men fabricate religions, there are thousands of them. Look around and tell us what the evidence indicates most strongly.

>Then for NO explainable reason
>I don't know the reason, therefore it is not explainable
That's quite a solipsism you have there. But once again it underscores how your gods of the shrinking gaps are constantly diminished by the inroads of scientific discovery and exploration.
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>>126455226
>life from nothing
Does your mother know you're shitting up the internet with lies, again?
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>>126442397
>why is homosexuality still around?
very simply homosexuality (like many human traits) isn't wholly genetic and is partly the result of socialization
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>>126455226
You skewered it yet it still sounds more legitimate than what I assume you believe
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>>126435515
>>can't comprehend logic

Neither do you.
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>implying that, even if a perfect rebuttal for the big bang was found, it would confirm christianity as fact over other religious systems

wew
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>>126448063
>only asians can read the miniscule text
subtle as usual
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>>126446587
>t we know they are fabricated from
>the imaginations of Bronze Age shepherds and Iron Age nomads

How do we know this?
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>>126455226
No, i believe a magic men created us, created our earth, we all descent from Adam and Eve and the Devil put Dinossaurs bones and fossils in here to trick us.
When he is sad and cries it rains, when he is furious it thunders, and he gives children cancer because he is sadistic

Also, physics and biology classes should b banned from school because they spread Devil's lies
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>>126450467
>a god that just materialized into existence at one point
creationists believe dumb shit too
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>>126440293
>Dude it's not a sky wizard he's just a wizard like being in the sky
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>religion vs. science based on ad hominem and memes
>american flag


Right.
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>>126434573
>thinks religion is based on faith, while evolution is based on science and facts
Which it is
>believes in dark matter
Which is the phrase used to describe observed patterns without a known cause
>believes in dark energy
same as above
>believes in quantum magic
Did you just make that up?
>thinks the laws of physics stopped working so planets could form
What?
>thinks like came from non-life
Considering it's all made of the same matter, yeah, seems reasonable.

Seriously, though, rabid theocrats stay off my board.
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>>126435515
>>126434573
http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/physics/105-the-universe/cosmology-and-the-big-bang/our-place-in-the-universe/635-if-the-universe-is-infinite-does-that-mean-there-is-an-infinite-number-of-me-s-intermediate

The universe is infinite. With evolution everything exists including god.
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>>126456405

>that picture

not if all gods exist because of an infinite universe
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LOOK AT ME I"M AN ATHIEST!

NOTHING EXPLODED INTO SOMETHING WITH THE POWER OF SOMETHING THAT IS NOTHING BUT COULD BE SOMETHING AND NOW IM TRYING TO FIND THE MAGIC PARTICLE THAT PROVES THAT NOTHING IS SOMETHING AS LONG AS YOU DONT LOOK AT IT

IM SO FUCKNIG SMART NOW HELP ME BAN FIRE BECAUSE CARBON DIOXIDE WHICH IS WHAT TREES BREATHE IS BAD FOR THEM
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>>126457751
Fuck off o bet dumbfucks like you even believe in round earth
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>>126434573
>doesn't understand mathematics
>doesn't understand physics
>doesn't understand biology
>desperately wants there to exist a god
>makes bait threads about things he doesn't understand
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>>126457712
>not if all gods exist because of an infinite universe
You are claiming with absolute certainty that all the thousands of gods fabricated in this universe exist in this universe? And that the thousands of gods fabricated in OTHER universe exist there because multi-verse?
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If God exists how come he doesn't make me believe in him?
That's right, run away, you'll never reach true enlightenment.
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>>126441594
>>126441594
>>126441594
>>126441594
>>126441594
>>126441594
fuck finally someone with sanity
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>>126435515
>sky wizard
reddit exposes themselves again
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>>126458056
Yes hence the word infinite. through odds and chance that something exists and evolution they all exist.
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>>126458208
Ha, you fear our intellect so you mock us.
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>>126434573
>thinks like came from non-life
>like came from non-life
>like
>non-life

you had 1 job anon.
One goddamn job.
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>>126434573
I dunno. Organic compounds are made of atoms, that by themselves are inorganic. Carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, sulfur, etc.

So, the idea "life coming from non-life is completely impossible" is flawed and lacking.
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>>126440293
>so how could we possibly understand the being that created it
And this is where your argument falls apart, as your already convinced that "God" created the universe without any evidence to support that claim.
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>>126435719
An interesting theory developed by a Catholic priest inspired by the holy spirit.
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>>126442397
because evolution acts on genetic traits therefore homosexuality isn't at least entire genetic
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>>126457751
>I"M AN ATHIEST!
You're lying, so it's far more likely you're a believer. And the fact that you're shouting stupidity confirms it.

>NOTHING EXPLODED INTO SOMETHING
First, atheism is just non-belief in made-up gods. Second, just because we're atheists doesn't mean we necessarily ascribe to any unrelated science or philosophy, it just means we don't believe in your phony gods.
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>>126442196
your moms retarded
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>>126458401
>Organic compounds are made of atoms, that by themselves are inorganic
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If God was real girls wouldn't date jerks
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>>126435515
the truth is that you can't really know anything for sure so you can only have faith
you merely choose to put faith in one thing over another :^)
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>>126443494
aliens and parallel universes are more plausible than the sky wizard memelord
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If there is a god he will have to beg for my mercy
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>>126458501
Oh my god how far did that fucking joke fly over your head
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>>126458614
shits gay
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>the Big Bang definitely happened
>oh then why is it a theory?
>it's our best guess of what happened
>oh did anyone observe the Big Bang?
>no
>is there written or visual record or any proof whatsoever?
>no...
>so it's literally fucking nothing just someone's science fiction tale
>I guess so...
Reminder that there are millions of pieces of evidence disproving the Big Bang but zero disproving Christianity.
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>>126458850
The only joke here is your god
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>>126458828
>>126458930
Nah compadre
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>>126458929
There definitely wasn't a big bang in your bedroom, that's for sure
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>>126434573
>thinks life came from non-life
>thinks life is something special
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Food goes in poop comes out, you can't explain that

ATHEISTS BTFO
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>>126441074
Ancient views and beliefs - yes.
Ancient knowledge - no.

The book contains information about how people interpreted the creation of everything around them. Interesting information, but not much else.

There is as much to be understood in the Bible as there is in a children's book. Both try to explain to the lesser what is good and what is bad. The problem is - explaining why rape is bad when you yourself can`t really put it in words other than "you shouldnt do it" isn`t enough for the simple minded.
So you put a benevolent entity behind it, so they are scared of the consequences.

Today we know stealing and rape is bad. It lies in our morals, and we don`t do it. Thus, we don`t need a 2000 year old book with imaginary beings telling us that.
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>>126459046
What I can't explain is why it comes out of the same hole, at least for you
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>>126450121
>where did the Big Bang come from?
It's impossible to know that with science. Science doesn't know it. Neither do you.
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>>126458900
Are those implants, or did she have an eating disorder? She looks like she gained weight. You can see more fat on her arms.
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>>126459046
poo poo pee pee >>.<<<
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>>126437761
>Religion is how early leaders socially controlled men and women

I love how this meme is how modern leaders control men and women.

Stop spouting this. Who is controlling a bush shaman?
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>>126459154
she got some transformative problem she became a bodybuilder shits weird, this phase was sexiest
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>>126434573
>>thinks life came from non-life

>He think water came from the combination of two non-waters
hahaha brainlet
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>>126441289
They also drank water and some liked perverted sex. Doing that doesn't make you any smarter. It was at a time when everyone worshipped dead kikes. Aristotle believed in Zeus, him being smart doesn't prove Zeus is real you dumb gay greek (sorry for repetition).
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>>126459302
forgot picture
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>>126459114
nice
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>>126440293
>Pseudo-intellectual plz leave. Implying you know more than the average youtube binge watcher. Yo you checkout that sick new Vsauce video?!
thats still way more than you will ever know.
but please keep avoiding answering any question about science that we give you. i think some of them are still falling for it
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>>126445202
Who gives a fuck
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>>126459302
>transformative problem
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>>126435515
>he adheres to an emergentist view of consciousness
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>>126458270

Bibel says "Do not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God."
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>>126459154
right now she's (((RUINED))) but she's not a coalburner \o/
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Dark matter and dark energy aren't proven facts, they're just placeholder terms for things we really have no idea about. We know that something we are currently referring to as "dark energy" exists however, because it's the only logical explanation as to why the universe is expanding at an increasingly high rate.
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>>126449475
>isnt that exactly the way religious people
Yes, it is. There's no way to KNOW what god looks like, Christ was the only bearer of the true light, the one son of god. Making "god" out to look like a strong tall man with a big white beard is a better representation than just printing the words "imagine god here" because no one knows what he really looks like. In the bible god comes to jesus' disciples in many different forms.

>why cant omnipotent gods rule this world

Read the bible, before you start saying things you think are counter arguments. You sound like someone pretending they saw a movie when they really only say the previews. God is the all mighty. BUT, god does NOT rule over us. Satan does. God gave us the power to think and do for ourselves, and gave us the knowledge to know between right and wrong, good and evil, and we are free to choose whichever path. That is gods test for us. Satan has control over our world because Satan controls us. You know that feeling you get when you're about to do something, and you KNOW what your about to do is wrong, and you KNOW it's only going to lead you into trouble? You have all these thoughts in your head, seemingly coming from a more enlightened version of yourself, telling you -don't do it, don't do it-, but you still don't listen? You still do the wrong thing even though you knew it was wrong? You're almost a slave to your own desires, greed. That's Satan. At least, a form of satan. Evil has many faces. Fear, hate, spite, greed. These aren't just euphemisms either, Satan is a being as much as he is "feelings".
>Beliefs are irrational
That's your counterargument in reference to the works of one of the most brilliant people to be alive? Langan is verified by many many intelligent scientists and scholars to be one of the smartest people EVER. Iq of about 195-210. His work is about a theory for the entire universe, and it's backed up by hardcore scientific data along with other scientific minds.
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>>126441074
>protoscience. Noun. (plural protosciences) An unscientific field of study which later becomes a science (e.g. astrology becoming astronomy and alchemy becoming chemistry).
Got that right
(e.g. creationism becomes evolution and myths become history)
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>>126447731
A book filled with facts you can actually test for yourself

can't test to see if god exists

>but muh BOOK!
ya
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>>126459412
she is just really disciplined? ok \o/
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>>126440293
Nigga we are the universe experiencing itself
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>>126453928
There may be a creator a god of deism so to speak. It is a guarantee that god of the abrahamic religions does not exist. Jesus is a myth.
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>>126459705
Something about this beats that
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You have five minutes to prove to me that g*d exists.
...Go.
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>>126434573
ITT: salty godless cucks trying to justify their meaningless existence . sad!
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>>126434573
Are viruses life? It isn't living but it propagates non-the-less.
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>>126437761
>Accept/reject=Belief/Non-belief
>kys
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>>126447097
I never said I never said that. It was shills, probably. - Heisenberg
That's a real quote too, but I was too lazy to put it on a meme.
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>>126459900
>Says the religious dumb cuck
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>>126459337
>Aristotle believed in Zeus
Is that actually true? I got some mixed signals about gods from reading Plato, so I wouldn't be surprised if the intellectuals of antiquity were more atheistic than we think they were, at least towards their own mythology.
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>>126434573
Daily reminder that polytheism is the true redpill
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>>126444231
>tips fedora

Why do christcucks use the same jokes over and over again?
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>>126440293
>The bible says god told Peter "You cannot see My face, for no one can see Me and live."
Spooky.
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>>126445427
>Using an example of intelligent design to refute religion
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>>126434573
I'm not going to waste time by arguing, however for everyone who thinks it's just a book, you should probably get a better understanding of what religion is and the role it plays in living life right.

Protip: stop using other people's interpretation. Everyone has a god/gods. Even atheists. If you don't agree, you need a better understanding of god.
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>>126435515
>>can't comprehend logic
>>doesn't understand evolution
>>no idea about physics
>>thinks a sky wizard memed everything into existence
too stupid to think gee maybe because the greatest gift from God to man was free will that if he goes and then proves his existence to us, it would remove our free will. It's almost like God granted us the ability to question and develop science as a true test of our faith. Hmmm even stranger it's routinely said that the battle of good/evil is really just Satan trying to use God's own gift to man to try and turn man against God. My cranial processing center is really warming up to thinking speed.
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>>126460384
Inb4 one post by this user.
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>>126434573
The jews created the universe.
Period.
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I don't understand why you're attacking science. Dark matter, dark energy, and quantum mechanics are just basic models that help explain our surroundings.
We're probably centuries away from a unified theory.
Science is just a way of getting at the truth. The main thing with science is testing. Everything is tested.
Religion asks many of the same questions science does. Where did we come from? How did the universe start? What is our purpose here?
A large part of science is debunking what we thought was true before, and that includes science. No scientific theory is safe from scientific testing.
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>>126441502
evolution
the part that covers the theories on how life evolved
(yes theories, we still dont know whoopdie fuckin doo)
physics
why do we need a unifying theory? so we can write it down in some pamphlet and go to people houses give it too them? do we need leave the unifying theory pamphlets on park benches and hand them out at colleges?
big bang theory
a hole lot more accurate than the 6 days of labor and 1 day of rest. i read a nat geo article that had it broken down by the second. beat that.
dark matter.
dark matter is a name for large amounts of mass we havent been able to identify. does it make sense? i guess. its an unknown. its physics say "hey theres a bunch of stuff out there we dont know what it is so we re gonna call it dark matter.
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>>126460506
Even if they didn't, they found a way to undermine and claim it for themselves.
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>>126434573

>science has created the modern world, technology thought only as fantasy to primitive men.

>religion has done nothing since it's creation.
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>>126440293
I've actually glanced briefly at Langan's paper before. I'll admit it's thought provoking. I applaude him for providing mathematical models to back up his own beliefs, and they certainly demonstrate the complexity of our universe and how we exist inside of it. It doesn't quite bridge the gap between science and the question of the existence of God; however, personally, it made topic of metaphysics seem more interesting. Take from it what you will, though.
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>>126460642
Right! Without a basis in religion, science wouldn't be a thing. There has to be a god to disprove. Otherwise, there is no reason to strive for progress.
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>>126460384
You should had went to University to a STEM course, you dumb fuck.
Now you are just a dumb religious cuckservative instead of a based Alt-right atheist
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>>126460451
>too stupid to think gee maybe because the greatest gift from God to man was free will that if he goes and then proves his existence to us, it would remove our free will.
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>>126460713
>tfw religious people knew how to write and read
>like 2000 years ago where it was hard af to learn it
>people now think religious people were the stupid ones
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>>126460713
>>religion has done nothing since it's creation.
yeah it's not like religion is what drove men to learn to read, write, record history and develop mathematics in attempts at finding God
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>>126460642
>A whole lot more accurate
Prove it. You're just repeating what others have said. There are theories that break it down by the second, and guess what, those theories throw the laws of physics right out the door. You know why? Because they don't work. Perhaps we're wrong.
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>>126460642
>>126461386
>Dark matter.
Is basically there to correct a massive fuck up some where. You have no clue what you're talking about.
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>>126457081
Adam and eve is actually a reference to the point in time man became "aware" and knew between good and bad. Satan disguised himself as a snake and tricked them into eating from the FRUIT OF KNOWLEDGE, even though god had commanded them not to. With this, the knowledge of good and bad was implemented into the minds of our species. We were given the world at our hands with our superior intellect, but with our superior intellect meant we knowingly did the wrong things for our own benefits. Original sin.

Also, Evolution DOESN'T conflict with Christianity at all. It actually empowers it. Theres many scriptures talking about life before the humans and even when humans existed in our primitive, much less smarter form. Something like 10k years ago is when our anatomical ancestors actually became super intelligent, even though humans have pof course been around for longer than that. "when the beasts roamed, the earth was chaotic and fearful" Before humans existed, life on earth was completely chaotic for life. Nothing but total instinctual killing, running, fear. Then, humans ate from the tree of knowledge, giving them the power to form world around them but also instilling within them a knowledge of good and bad and free will. freely choosing bad is sin. that is where man became cursed with original sin. We became smart and cunning, yet we were still abrbaric savages. Then Jesus Christ came to tell us of the true light.
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>>126442922
Hitler support the retarded world ice theory simply because it wasn't Jewish.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welteislehre
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>>126434573
yeah yeah, some sky daddy created everything, and he happens to be the one that's described in the bible, some dumb book created by drunk wandering jews.

/pol/ has become so contrarian that people are unironically posting christfag shit

inb4 reddit
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>>126461081
Friend, I'm definitely not 'religious' in the sense you understand. Perhaps your anger stems from your poor moral character. Once again, get a better understanding of 'god'.
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>>126460384
Seems like your protip is just picking at semantics. Your definition of god differs from the norm. Not really an argument.
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>>126435719
God killing himself.
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>>126461253

If you are a christian then you would have to admit all other religious people were scammers praying on fools for money.
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>>126459705
Why do they tan like that? Between that and their toned bodies, they look like dried fish or something.
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>>126461757
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>>126434573
>the laws of physics stopped working so planets could form
What?
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>>126461856
>get a better understanding of 'god'.
Of which god?
>Allah?
>Zeus?
>Buddha?
>One of the multiple Hindu Gods?
>One of the multiple Aztek Gods?

Tell me why your God exists but all the other don't?
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>>126458929
>zero disproving Christianity.
Christianity was never proven, so there's nothing to disprove.
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>>126462333
>all other religious people were scammers praying on fools for money.

nice trips

that should be common knowledge by now.
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>>126460642
You are so fucking dumb. Look at the retard try to argue, everybody. But careful, he read an article that broke it down.
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>>126442597
You can buy some fruit flies, an aquarium and in 10 years you can create a new species that can't interbreed with the older one if you want.
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>>126461989
Really? And what norm would that be? The fact that god is the creator? Please show me where I deviate from your 'norm'. Your god is bigger than your understanding of him.
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we live in a simulation, nothing is really real
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>>126459337
>Aristotle believed in Zeus, him being smart doesn't prove Zeus is real
Are you joking? Aristotle was put in jail for not being religious enough. In fact, he taught that things are the way they are and happened the way they do for rational reasons. He rejected all the supernatural explanations by gods and deities. His reasoning is what made him famous.
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Why are dumb religious people in /pol/ always americans?
Why is american educational system such a mess?
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>>126463137
whos running the simulation?
God

Atheist on suicide watch
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>>126462607
Exactly. Btw, Buddha wasn't a god. My god, your god, everyone's god exists. That's the point. The problem isn't god, it's who we believe as his messenger.
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I'm so confused. Supposedly, the universe is flat.

Somebody explain this to me. I don't get how the energy/matter density ratios of our universe make it flat when that goes against the isotropic/homogeneous principles.
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>>126463455
Can my turd be the god's messenger?
I believe in it, because one time the image of god appeared on my big fat turd, i felt blessed
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>>126463426
You actually get it. People want to identify god. We need to define god. The programmer, the atom, the energy, the diety, the person, the spirit, etc... Why is this so hard for people to get? All of this religious argument is a Jew trick to divide us.
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>>126463886
You're just being a contrary asshole. But, to play your game, yes.
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>>126463715
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/degrees-of-freedom/httpblogsscientificamericancomdegrees-of-freedom20110725what-do-you-mean-the-universe-is-flat-part-i/
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>>126459976
>Accept/reject=Belief/Non-belief
This is what brain-damaged beliebers might believe, but anyone with an IQ over 70 has no excuse.

There are people sitting in a dark room praying for light. They've been there for years, but their belief is strong! No amount of belief will ever make the light shine.

You walk in and turn on the light switch, because you know as long as the electric bill is paid, the wiring light and switch are functional and connected, that the light will turn on.

Suddenly the prayer stops and the beliebers are bewildered. They have no supernatural explanation for what just happened so they pretend it didn't. Or they rationalize it some other way.

You leave and flick the lights off, they resume their useless incantations. That's science and religion interacting.
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>>126464118
Can i be the messenger of God and tell people what they should do and think and receive their money?
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>>126434573

Who /believes that the universe was created by God but believes modern religion is mostly bullshit to control people/ here?

The universe is far too complex to be an accident. I actually find it somewhat insulting that one would imply life is an accident.
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>>126435515
Oh, I understand evolution alright. I have five college biology books in my room. I studied it and believed it for years
But sometime later I just looked at the arguments against Darwinian evolution and I realized that to believe in Darwinian evolution requires more leaps of faith than not.
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>>126464287
Sure. Doesn't change who or what god is. Again, it's the messenger that is the problem. Be it Jesus, Mohammed, Abraham, Vishnu, whomever. These are what we argue about.
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>>126463715
the universe is not flat. It doesn't have a shape, we can not comprehend how the universe looks like because we can't see it. This is why the universe is "infinite".
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>>126460384
>Everyone has a god/gods. Even atheists
Contradiction in terms, definitely not a pro-tip
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>>126437761
Darwinian evolution is not experimental science; there can be no experiments done to prove it.
Only Natural and Artificial Selection has been experimentally observed, but Natural Selection=/=Darwinian Evolution.
Do you agree that Darwinian Evolution should be taught in History class and not Science class?
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>>126464534
>Thunderstorms are far to complex to be explained by science
Said the men in the Middle Ages.

As science, technology and the human knowledge evolves, i'm sure we will explain the Universe as good as we explain thunderstorms today
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>>126434573
>be amerifat
>doesn't understand something
>denies it

This isn't even a question of faith, not believing in facts is simply idiotic and pathetic.
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>>126464834
What is god? When you answer that, and I mean REALLY answer that, you'll understand that it's not a contradiction.
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>>126465276
>big bang is a fact
holy fug
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Anyone that believes we're in a simulation is fucking retarded
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>>126464584
>to believe in Darwinian evolution requires more leaps of faith than not.
Lol, it does not, you are just badly educated. Personally i blame american educational system
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>>126465379
>t. simulation program Admin
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>>126445277
How did sexual reproduction come about if it has literally no obvious advantage for single-celled organisms?
>It's slower
>It requires more energy
>It has to evolve twice at the same time, with organisms tending to become one of two sexes, with no obvious immediate advantage, with a possible interaction between the two sexes also evolving, with no obvious immediate advantage, which then becomes something with no obvious immediate advantage over the asexually reproducing organisms? If the organism was already able to evolve sexual reproduction when it was still asexually reproducing, why would it need to evolve it if it already has such great genetic diversity as to evolve such a complicated development?

The logic is
>I'm hungry enough to eat anything
>Therefore I shall cook a delicious meal that takes days to prepare for myself, starving all the while.
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>>126465621
Because in that way, more genetic variations are possible which does make the evolution process a lot easier.

More genetic variations = more new, sometimes very good genes which can be passed on.

Is the education system in your country really that bad?
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>>126441919
When I saw your comment first I was thinking that you were talking about Darwinian Evolution.
>Carnival barkers (Bill Nye)
>Superstitious beliefs (Dark Matter)
>Performance art rituals (March for (((Science))))
>Very elaborate
But you use
>a hundred year old book
Darwinian evolution is exclusively promoted in the (((Media))). But it's not science; it's natural history.
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>>126464534
>modern religion is mostly bullshit to control people
Aye

>The universe is far too complex to be an accident.
Nay. The universe seems complex to us because in a large space and quadrillions of permutations, there will be trillions of opportunities. Even though we can only occupy a tiny sliver on this one single planet for the next 300 light years, the universe seems to be geared toward living organisms like ours. Carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and nitrogen appear just about everywhere in the known universe.
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>Why is always Americans
PLS EXPLAIN THIS TO ME
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>>126464584
>I have five college biology books in my room.
Are they keeping your desk from wobbling? Because it's clear you haven't read them.
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>>126465621
>The logic is
>>I'm hungry enough to eat anything
>>Therefore I shall cook a delicious meal that takes days to prepare for myself, starving all the while.
You forgot to add
>while also ensuring that I personally don't have all the ingredients to make said meal and must rely on finding the other person who has half my meal
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>>126464584
But you can see evolution work with your very eyes. No faith required. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plVk4NVIUh8
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>>126441594
Darwinian Evolution is pretty much fan fiction at this point. Testing things is impossible.
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>>126466128

These dipshits are arguing that GODDIDIT is a viable belief. Yes, the education system is that bad here.
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>>126465360
>What is god?
An imaginary, artificial construct. We have thousands of examples don't we? In the Abrahamic religions alone there have been hundred of details fabricated about them. El Ohim, Baal, Moloch, Satan, God, Jesus, Allah, etc.
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>>126466738
>lol, ameridumb education
Hope you are just trolling
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>>126434573
Nice strawmen, idiot.
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>>126435831
OH SNAP!
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>>126466517
>Carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and nitrogen appear just about everywhere in the known universe.
And why do those happen to be able to make CONSCIOUS life appear, with the help of some other elements? Why do we humans have souls, when we're just a bunch of carbon, oxygen, hydrogen and other un-alive elements?
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>>126434573

Here's my theory:
You're a faggot

Here's my evidence:
http://www.strawpoll.me/13014002
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>>126434573
>I don't understand anything about physics: the post
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>>126458017
I understand mathematics, physics and biology better than you, Leaf.
I desperately wanted evolution to be true, but looking at the logical arguments presented, it would be illogical for me to continue believing in the popular Goo-to-(You) Darwinian Fanfiction.
I kept wondering if there was a way to remain an atheist and not believe in Darwinian evolution, a kind of third way. Well, there wasn't.
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>>126466471
>When I saw your comment first I was thinking
No, you weren't. You only believed you were thinking, but just like your gods, there's no evidence of it.
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>>126465108
>I'm sure
Yeah right.
Those two are not comparable by a long shot, and by the way, there were many people in the middle ages who knew why and how thunderstorms appear.
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>>126466933
You are confusing a personification of a greater truth with the actual truth. Whatever it is that creates life, powers the sun, allows for rain, provides energy for us, etc is god. Don't mistake god for God.
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>>126434573
>>believes in dark matter
It behaves like hydrogen that doesn't interact with photons and that's what it is. Look into hydrinos.
>>believes in quantum magic
The calculations are useful, but the interpretations of QM are jewish pseudoscience and don't explain anything.
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>>126467267
So, you don't like the coloreds?
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>>126458401
But how did sexual reproduction evolve? It has no obvious immediate advantage over asexual reproduction. And the pre-existing genetic variation that would be required to evolve sexual reproduction would negate the need to evolve sexual reproduction.
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>>126434573
>>126435515

>>125637346
https://youtu.be/ji2cvuJ1mYg
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>>126467016
and who name all those bones? my Moorish friend
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>>126467546
Yes i'm sure, it could take 100 years or 100.000 years but i'm sure science will explain it, like explained millions of religious myths.
If humans don't go extinct or into another religious fanatism like in the dark ages

>there were many people in the middle ages who knew why and how thunderstorms appear.
Lol
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>>126444254
> DELAYED CHOICE QUANTUM ERASER
DELAYED CHOICE QUANTUM ERASER
> DELAYED CHOICE QUANTUM ERASER
DELAYED CHOICE QUANTUM ERASER

Who is your God now.
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>>126468041
Probably the guy or group of guys that discover them, like is usually in science
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>>126460200
>christcuck

Why do fedoracucks use the same jokes over and over again?
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>>126463034

noun
1. (in Christianity and other monotheistic religions) the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being.
synonyms: the Lord, the Almighty, the Creator, the Maker, the Godhead; More
2. (in certain other religions) a superhuman being or spirit worshiped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity.
"a moon god"
synonyms: deity, goddess, divine being, celestial being, divinity, immortal, avatar
"sacrifices to appease the gods"

Atheists don't have those. It contradicts the term "atheist". Thus, you must define god as something broader than that, which would differ from standard dictionary definitions.

>I don't need to explain myself. It's just too complicated for you to understand anyway.
This isn't an argument btw.
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>>126466546
BUMP
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>>126450594
Darwinian Evolution is not experimental science.

Also, read up on the Light Travel Time problem.
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>>126465394
>skulls with big gaps in between each one shows we evolved from apes
>Durrr hurr
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>>126466636
>bacteria is the same as people
>durrr hurr
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>>126435515

>only that which i can experience with my sensory perceptions is real
>>126435719

>you faithfags are stupid

>has to have faith in theory because he cannot epistemologically prove we came from stardust


Science is the nigger of the threefold nature of man.
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>>126467016
>the bones look somewhat similar so that means God isn't real even though he easily could have done that
>durrr hurr
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>>126468439
All that mocking statement does is demonstrate your own scientific illiteracy. Stay out of the STEM fields.
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>>126467240
>And why do those happen to be able to make CONSCIOUS life appear, with the help of some other elements?
The l-shaped proteins form very easily even under high school lab conditions. It's not rocket science any more. The environment for living organisms constantly changes, which means some species will die off, others will adapt. And because organisms mutate and change, they survive in the new environment.

At some point 200,000 years ago, hominid brain cavities started increasing in size. Probably an adaptation to catch bigger and faster prey, or to elude apex predators. Target acquisition is a lizard brain activity, but predicting where prey will run next in real time requires a lot more brainpower. This led to what you call consciousness or self awareness.

I would argue that a lot of animals can be trained and are therefore reasoning on some level. Are they sentient? Probably not fully, but to the limit the can be they are. I know someone who trains a squid how to retrieve food from a jar with a crew on lid, then that squid trains the other squids in the tank. Another friend trains rabbits to perform all kinds of companion animal tasks. It seems amazing, but that's just us failing to realize how close to sentience these creatures really are.
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>>126457097
>material

Things only need creators when they have matter.
Things only need origin when they exist in time.
Things only need energy when they are bound by rules.

God is none of those.
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>>126454566
Dunning-Kruger in effect. This is why it is so easy to BTFO Evotards--it's babby's first Rhetorical Argument.
Why don't you try to imagine yourself if you believed in a Creationism. How would you act differently? I bet that you'll have a hard time doing this. The skill to perceive oneself in different situations is a good indication of cognitive bias.
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>>126468439
>skulls with big gaps
You want 800 millions of skulls, side by side, so you can csee every millimeter of evolution?
Ameridumb

Believing in fairy-tales that your parents told you, that violate every law of the Universe, surely does not have any big logical gaps
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>>126467442
>I desperately wanted evolution to be true,
larping theist
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>Yes goy believe us scientists are never wrong and can't lie
>No goy what you doing don't click that link
https://youtu.be/ji2cvuJ1mYg
>>125637346
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>>126457081
I love these Strawman arguments because when I point it out it brings more people to my side. Keep using them, please.
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>>126468363
Really? What's the etymology of the word atheist? How about of the word god? Also, what about the rest of the definition? You seem to have left out the rest. You are simply arguing against an abrahamic understanding of god. There is a bigger picture.
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>>126468399
>Darwinian Evolution is not experimental science.
You should spend more time reading and less time yakking

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14094-bacteria-make-major-evolutionary-shift-in-the-lab/
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If you can see how renormalization is bullshit then you're smart enough to see how the rest of it is bullshit. You should ask yourself why infinities keep entering their equations when all their measurements reflect finite values. Renormalization is at the foundations. If you recognize that it's an error to suggest that a shrinking sphere will arrive at a situation where its radius is zero then you'll begin to notice they make the same kinds of logical errors all throughout their theories. Renormalization is there to cover over a logical error in the theory. It is bad theory. It is false.

Bullshit:
>renormalization (called by Feynman 'hocus pocus' and 'not mathematically legitimate')
>uncertainty principle
>curved space
>virtual particles
>symmetry breaking
>borrowing from the vacuum
>backwards causality
>entanglement
>dark matter / dark energy
>pushing quark flavor and color
>etc, etc, etc...
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>>126458501
whoosh
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>>126468903
>Believing in fairy-tales that your parents told you
>fairy-tale
>doesn't realize what the word fairy-tale even is

>that violate every law of the Universe, surely does not have any big logical gaps
>doesn't realize God created physics so why would he have to fall them

>hurrr durr the post
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>>126462031
This guy knows.
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>>126469099
>Does not have a real argument
>ad hominem argument
LORD JESUS ALELUIA!!!!!!
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>>126468439
>>126468656
>>126468698

>some shitty book proves God
>durr hurr
Literally kys.
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>>126435515
typical. insult your way out. don't bother addressing the issues brought up. skywizard? really? how weak.
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>>126468815
>>126469257
Or was it simply what's on the other end of a black hole?
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>>126466517
>Carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and nitrogen appear just about everywhere in the known universe.
And yet despite this, and our ability to observe 10-15 billion light years away, we can't find a single other example of it.

Isn't it logical to assume that given the same starting point (the big bang) that similar conditions would exist in similar regions of space ?

I mean if I wander through the wilderness each day until I find an animal, and I come across a frog, the most likely spot for me to find another frog is right in that area.

The fact that given our ability to observe the distances we have still not provided evidence of life outside of this planet should give you reason for pause.
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>>126466623
Excellent continuation
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>>126469337
>does't realize that book has been proven true many times
>>125637346

Literally kys.
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>>126469245
>doesn't realize God created physics
Says who?
The Bible, with 0 signs of proof and evidence? Looks like a unbiased source, I'M SOLD, HALLELUJAH!!!!!!
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GFod is the unsolvable equatin from wich all observable mathematics derive from.

I'am not so sure why people are such tryhards trying to explain shit they couldn't possible do. Much simpler and more honest to just say "fine, we don't actualy know, move n with your life". It really is that simple. "God" is infinit variable translated into the human concept of numerical assembly mechanisms of tought. Have a good day, sincerey a rural brazillian.
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>>126466128
But the genetic variations required to evolve sexual reproduction already there so it didn't need to evolve. It also has to evolve twice; nay, thrice at the same time or else it is useless.
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Rationality is self determining in and for itself. The universe emerges from the void and has an external and internal self relating which begins from the most simplest forms (space, time) and negates all that is in-itself irrational until more and more complex rationally consistent forms manifest.
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>>126435515
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>>126469118
Ancient Greek ἄθεος (átheos, “godless, without god”), from ἀ- (a-, “without”) + θεός (theós, “god”).

I don't think you uderstand how this works. You make a claim; you then have to support said claim. It's not up to me to run around to verify your own conjecture. If there are more definitions of the word, please provide them. I'm not arguing against any god; I've only pointed out your lack of any real argument.
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>>126469733
>with 0 signs of proof and evidence?
>can't read the thread
>>126469023
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>>126466517
And why did they all become left-handed amino acids and none of them right-handed, if a mix of the two results in cell death? Why aren't then there two kinds of life, left-handed and right-handed?
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>>126468815
>The l-shaped proteins form very easily even under high school lab conditions.
yeah except no matter what scientists have tried despite replicating the so called 'primordial soup' exactly they cannot replicate life even under the exact controlled conditions they claim it sprang fourth from
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>>126467016
Did you test your theory? It's natural history and philosophy, not experimental science.
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>>126469170
That's natural selection, not Darwinian Evolution. Stop equivocating.
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>>126470001
>can't read the thread
I read it and it consists of 3 ameridumbs getting destroyed by the rest of the world
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>>126470521
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>>126468903
You yourself, by your theory necessitating MUH BRAZILLIANS OF YEARS, created your own million year gaps.
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>>126470324
>something that took millions of years to happen accidentally can't be replicated in a few days in a lab

You don't say...
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>>126469733
An observation of an event is not evidence of the events origin.

The big bang theory is an analysis of what happened, not a conclusion of why or how it happened.

>I took my dog to the park, he ran around, played with other dogs and took a shit.
>The reason my dog took a shit is because I took him to the park.

No the reason he took a shit is because he did something before he went to the park. Listing the events that lead him up to that point is just attributing causality to observation leading to an outcome. It doesn't provide th"why", just the "how".
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>>126468864
>Why don't you try to imagine yourself if you believed in a Creationism.
Isn't suspending disbelief what we do when we watch TV? The good news is that non-believers are well adapted for it.

Our brains evolved to "suspend disbelief" to engage in brief flights of fantasy. Our brains do not have the chemistry required to live in delusions and daydreams for long periods of time. Your irrational beliefs for these extended periods are damaging your ability to think rationally.

I can easily imagine a world of creationism, but then I return to reality. You never do.
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