/nsg/ 卐 - National Socialism General

>>126377696

>>Poland refused to give German majority lands that wanted to rejoin with Germany, to Germany
>Lie.

The whole point was Danzig.

However, Upper Silesia had a plebicite in which they voted to remain with Germany.
Polish insurgents then invaded the region, and German Freikorps members tried to fend it off.

Then the League of Nations took over and decided the borders, giving Poland vast amounts of resources situated on land that would've gone to Germany according to the plebicite.

That's number 7. >>126376361 Are you going to ignore that too?

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卐 - WHITE GENOCIDE & JEWISH INFLUENCE
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>RABBI Yosef Tzvi Ben Porat explains why Hitler hated Jews.
https://youtu.be/33zAu3IDW6w
>Endgame - White Genocide
http://youtu.be/uMfk5UeGw4E
>THE JEWISH QUESTION
https://youtu.be/v1jtKNs5q2o
>The Jewish-Bolshevik Decimation of the Russian People
http://youtu.be/DC8GLciF-5s
>Jewish financiers and the Russian Revolution
http://youtu.be/Qa-dInQEa-4
>Putin confirms, 85% Jews behind Bolshevism
http://youtu.be/j6p1zxKnDeM
>The Talmudic basis of Jewish supremacy
http://youtu.be/CEAmtWd6aD0
>Miscegenation illegal in (((Our Greatest Ally)))
http://youtu.be/5NdQXOPARWI
>Jews pushing immigration for white nations
http://youtu.be/XpnYpQaHAuc
>Barbara Lerner Spectre
http://youtu.be/oZ1BRHBErH8
>Jewish Supremacism
http://youtu.be/w1SmKle95MU
>Noel Ignatiev
http://youtu.be/BOyBO-ts20c
>Mainstreaming white genocide
http://youtu.be/RC-Cqkq6zWc
>Sarkozy on forced misecegenation
http://youtu.be/I8yaiN6ew_g
>Ben Freedman on World Zionist wars
http://youtu.be/x8OmxI2AYV8
>Alon Ziv promoting interracial couples
http://youtu.be/8RWP8Pws9mw
>Alon Ziv defending Jews refusing to breed outside their race
http://archive.is/1Mzb9
>The Frankfurt School of Cultural Marxism
http://youtu.be/QY82qNWMaaE

>>126377787
>A photo
It's a photo of some scribble without a context. How does that relate or prove anything you wrote?

>>126378405
>The whole point was Danzig.
Gdańsk was A FREE STATE. It didn't belong to Poland and Poland coundn't decide it s fate.

>Upper Silesia had a plebicite in which they voted to remain with Germany
As a matter of fact, that' not correct.
The regions that voted to join Germany went to Germany, while regions that voted to join Poland went to Poland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Silesia_plebiscite#Results

In addition to that, region of Silesia was given a huge amount of autonomy in Poland - something that can't be said abotu any German region with huge Polish population.

>>126379768
>scribble without a context
I told you exactly what it said. Shouldn't be hard to find the image using the google search feature. If you weren't fresh off the boat from leddit, you wouldn't be so helpless.

>>126378975
Where are the "sources" proving any sort of mistreatment caused by Poles to Germans?

This seems to be your literal only justification of German invasion of Poland, and yet you aren't able to provide any.

And earlier in that thread, you yourself indeed admitted that Germans mistreated Poles badly.

So, to sum up: Hitler invaded Poland without a clear reason, and he mistreated Poles badly. It clearly doesn't make him a saint as you want to portray him, does it?

>>126379108
Did you actually READ that yoursef? Because I already refered to it. Twice.

The "source" you posted refers solely to Bloody Sunday, and I already talked about it. Twice.

>>126379342
>h-hopefully for lurkers to read through and form their own opinion
Kek, they are. 126377925

>>126380296
>Kek, they are
Meant to link >>126377925

>>126379906
>I told you exactly what it said
It said "to be shot"? In Polish? Because it's clearly not saying that, in that case. I have no idea what language that is and what it says, but it's surely not Polish.

>>126380788
>Because it's clearly not saying that, in that case
I thought you couldn't read it:
>It's a photo of some scribble
Is the only talent Jews have lying? You're terrible at it. You have the memory of a house fly.

>>126379768

From your own source:
> All the districts of the industrial zone in a narrower sense - Beuthen (Bytom), Hindenburg (Zabrze), Kattowitz (Katowice), and Königshütte (Chorzów) - had slight German majorities

They went to Poland.
Those were the things the Polish insurgents were invading for.


>>126380296
I said since the start I wouldn't get into those, because there's too many conflicting resources on those.
My entire point was the chauvinistic attitude present within Poland (as well as many other parts of the world.)
Which I don't think you deny any longer.

I never stated the mistreatment of Germans was the justification of the war, the refusal of Poland to negotiate was.
Germany invaded Poland, gave them a chance to accept a peace treaty with basically the demands every country thought reasonable, Poland refused hoping the UK and France would knock out Germany, and Germany occupied Poland.

I don't deny some mistreatment happened, not muh 5 million (which even Jews don't claim any longer nowadays), but mistreatment.
And I understand that makes it difficult for you to accept National Socialism, but there's no National Socialist group active that wants to occupy Poland.

You've made seven claims which were wrong, you're still silent about those since the first.
How about you stop with these weird arguments and get an actual constructive conversation going?

>>126380956
That's exactly what I said, retard.
I have no idea what it says, it's just some scribble without context. Not in Polish, most certainly, which ruins your theory.

>>126381266
>That's exactly what I said, retard
Umm, yeah, you said two contradictory things, genius. lol are you living in a fucking home for the mentally disabled?

Nazis, later than WWII, traveled to Antarctica. They accessed eternal life technologies: instant regrowth of missing body parts, old brains placed into young clone bodies, and travel to other planets.

Their allegiance became to all since they were only trusting of each other when they were forcing all humans live. This is since if all humans live then self lives. This is also since the words, "all" and "human" and "life" is simple to learn and teach. While the Nazis have been suspicious of each other...they took the eternal life technologies from each other. Those who had nothing continued to be involved with others by speaking, spieling, and telling to check each other by the rule: all humans live. Thus they have become some of the best guardians of humans...including the neo-nazis of today.

There are explosions the size of many stars like our star, "sol". Astronomers are calling these explosions, "big bangs". The explosions are the size of thousands of millions of thousands of stars. If the Nazis will survive, dodge, or prevent a big bang close enough to kill then they will put as many humans at as many places as possible so the location of the next big bang is found. This mission is more incentive to force all humans live.

>>126381387
So again. You claim that this says "to be shot" in Polish. It clearly doesn't.

What are you trying to prove again?

>>126381626
(you)

Anyone have a copy of Goebbels battle for Berlin? Or anything by him or Himmler? It's hard to find here and buying it could get me arrested.
Thanks gang

>>126382298
Uncertain he titled it Nazi-Sozi, but it's a translation:
https://archive.org/details/TheNaziSoziQuestionsAndAnswersForNationalSocialistsDr.JosephGoebbels

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>>126381080
>>All the districts of the industrial zone in a narrower sense - Beuthen (Bytom), Hindenburg (Zabrze), Kattowitz (Katowice), and Königshütte (Chorzów) - had slight German majorities

It also says
>in Beuthen and Kattowitz this was due entirely to the town vote (four fifth in Kattowitz compared to an overall 60%).

It also need to be noted that the Germans were not native to these lands. As a matter of fact, the Germans started infesting and slowly colonizing Pomerania and Silesia in the middle ages. Before it happened, these lands were legally part of Polish Crown. And so was Gdańsk.

>I said since the start I wouldn't get into those, because there's too many conflicting resources on those.
You literally have nothing to prove that bullshit and you know I'm right. There were no Germans "oppressed" or "murdered" by Poles. Period.

>My entire point was the chauvinistic attitude present within Poland
Not an argument as there was the same kind of dislike towards Poland in Germany, and yet we didn't invade them because of that.

>I never stated the mistreatment of Germans was the justification of the war
Well obviously something that never happened can't be justification of war.

>the refusal of Poland to negotiate was.
"Negotiate" what? Giving up on Gdańsk which didn't even belong to us?
Are you trying to imply that Hitler was an idiot who didn't even know what he was asking for? Or that he asked for something he full well knew we couldn't provide, just to find an excuse to invade?

>gave them a chance to accept a peace treaty with basically the demands every country thought reasonable
How could Poland accept any "peace treaty", if no war was ever declared by Germany?

>I don't deny some mistreatment happened
"Mistreatment" is a very light word for systematic genocide of intellectual elites and certain ethnic groups.

>>126382762
Thanks a lot Ruspal

(cont.)
>You've made seven claims which were wrong
Indeed I was wrong about Hitler not mentioning the white race, however he never did that in a context modern white nationalists use.

Germany indeed got hugely endebted during rule of National Socialists, and that is true as well.

You failed to respond to my claim that Hitler was on wery well terms with South American countries that were very eager to racemix, and were basically built on racemixing. Some even claim Hitler retired in one of these countries, and most certainly lot of former Nazis did. You also failed to actually provide any sources of him saying about metizos of asians. You just mentioned blacks. You also never mentioned how Hitler "hated" them, as that anon impliad National Socialist should do.

You failed to respond to my claim that Nazis and modern whites nationalists differed in their view of white race, as Nazis never saw a white race as a whole.

You failed to respond to my claim that there was a MUTUAL dislike between Poland and Germany.

And you never debunked my claim that communist education produced less ignorant people than capitalist countries did.

>And I understand that makes it difficult for you to accept National Socialism, but there's no National Socialist group active that wants to occupy Poland

The previous thread states something completely opposite.

Nazis actively attempt to whitewash Hitler and ideology of National Socialism, and to achieve that, they spread lies and false propaganda about Poland in order to convince people that Poland was a "bad guy" and Hitler had no choice but to start a wall. Such narrative is unacceptable not only from the point of view of Poland, but also historical truth. As a Pole, I will never accept that narrative and I will always keep debunking it, pointing out the obvious lies and slander that modern Nazis direct against Poland.

>>126383018
>It also need to be noted that the Germans were not native to these lands. As a matter of fact, the Germans started infesting and slowly colonizing Pomerania and Silesia in the middle ages. Before it happened, these lands were legally part of Polish Crown. And so was Gdańsk.

And before that, they were Germanic.

>You literally have nothing to prove that bullshit and you know I'm right. There were no Germans "oppressed" or "murdered" by Poles. Period.

I already said the German civilians murdered by Poles after the war broke out was enough to prove my point.
This didn't happen everywhere.

>Not an argument as there was the same kind of dislike towards Poland in Germany, and yet we didn't invade them because of that.

It was never given as a justification of the war. I've said that since the start.
It was given as an explanation of why Poles were mistreated, because it was a relic of the time.
You couldn't expect a supernationalist country not to have petty chauvenism like that work its way into policies.

Revengism is intertwined with romanticism, Soviets hunted down ethnicities that fled communist rule and persecuted them.

The point was to separate anti-Slavic attitudes from National Socialism today.

>Are you trying to imply that Hitler was an idiot who didn't even know what he was asking for? Or that he asked for something he full well knew we couldn't provide, just to find an excuse to invade?

You seem to be the idiot, as Poland did have authority over returning it to Germany.
The local NSDAP was in government with a 50%> vote since the same time Hitler got power.
They weren't allowed to return by Poland, which clinged on to its war guarantee pact.

>>126382298
>Battle for Berlin
Not in English, sadly.
https://archive.org/details/Goebbels-Joseph-Kampf-um-Berlin

Himmler wrote a book called "SS Defenders against Bolshevism", but I dont know of any electronic copies online. Here's a speech he gave against homsexuality:

https://archive.org/details/HeinrichHimmlersSpeechAboutHomosexuality

>>126383866
>Germany indeed got hugely endebted during rule of National Socialists, and that is true as well.

It was at less than a third of what it was in 23, and the national debt as part of GDP fell, which is how its measured.
The United States had a way worse case of debt at the time, not even speaking of modern days.

You're isolating debt as a whole, which doesn't make sense with growing economies, but even then factor 1.5 isn't very large.
Certainly way below the more than doubling the US undertook in the same time period, which again isn't relevant without looking at it as part of a percentage of GDP.

>You failed to respond to my claim that Nazis and modern whites nationalists differed in their view of white race, as Nazis never saw a white race as a whole.
Difficult to verify, but Hitler used both White and Aryan to describe different things.
Himmler at the end of the war saw a need to unify against the yellow peril directly talking about the White race.

Hitler made various speeches about defending Europe throughout history, specifically saying Europe was more than a geographical area.

Include the racial maps drawn from the time, the concept of a European race certainly existed.

>You failed to respond to my claim that there was a MUTUAL dislike between Poland and Germany.
I'll agree with that, and I think it's a shame.

>And you never debunked my claim that communist education produced less ignorant people than capitalist countries did.
I'm not sure what you mean with this. The skill set of east Germans was lacking behind their western brothers.
If you mean outlook on life, maybe. That's certainly part of education but not what I interpreted your post on education as.

>As a Pole, I will never accept that narrative and I will always keep debunking it
Obviously you're biased, though.
The simple fact that Beck wanted a war to knock Germany out so Poland could keep its advantageous position should be pretty clear

>>126383957
>And before that, they were Germanic.
When exactly? Germanic people left these lands during Migration Period. Slavs migrated in their place.

>I already said the German civilians murdered by Poles after the war broke
Ah yes, the Bromberg Massacre, an incident that was caused as a result of German parisan groups on Polish forces and resulted in both Polish and German civilian deaths that I've already debunked twice. Do I need to do it a thrid time?

>It was given as an explanation of why Poles were mistreated, because it was a relic of the time
Yet funnily enough, it was Poles who gave a huge autonomy to the laregly German region of Silesia. No such autonomy was ever granted to the Polish citizens by Third Reich.

>Poland did have authority over returning it to Germany
Tell me how exactly. It was a free state under UN governance. Are you trying to imply that Poland had a power over UN?

And even if we did, why would we give in to any German demands? We already saw how if ended up for Austrians and Czechs: badly.

>>126384842
>Difficult to verify, but Hitler used both White and Aryan to describe different things
You know full well that the concept of "racial identity" is the construct of modern times.

Hitler saw other whites as his primary antagonists. And I'm still waiting for the quotes of him saying bad things about metizos or asians specifically. I also want to hear how do white nationalists justify Nazi collaboration with South American countries, which were basically built on racemixing.

>I'm not sure what you mean with this
I mean the general education. As I said, communist/socialist education attempted to learn students as vast knowledge as possible, but not all of it was certainly necessary. Western education on the other hand produced students focused on their field subject, but ignorant in all the others.

>Obviously you're biased, though.
I'm not, the bullshit about Poles starting the war or provoking Hitler to start war, or murdering Germans is a pure lie produced for propaganda reasons and you know it full well.

Not to mention no Pole will just sit silently while the man directly responsible for deaths of their parents/grandparents is praised as a "savior of the white race", or some other shit.

>>126384922
>When exactly? Germanic people left these lands during Migration Period. Slavs migrated in their place.
I'm sure if you go back to which ethnicity has lived there the longest, it'd be Germanic, as prior to the migration period they were there for quite a long time.
I was just pointing out that it wasn't very relevant to the discussion as the region has changed hands quite a lot.

>>126384922
>Ah yes, the Bromberg Massacre, an incident that was caused as a result of German parisan groups on Polish forces and resulted in both Polish and German civilian deaths that I've already debunked twice. Do I need to do it a thrid time?

>Tell me how exactly. It was a free state under UN governance. Are you trying to imply that Poland had a power over UN?
>And even if we did, why would we give in to any German demands? We already saw how if ended up for Austrians and Czechs: badly.

The negotiations were done with Poland, as getting Poland to agree would let Germany walk in without Poland declaring war.
Every side involved at all agreed Poland needed first to give its consent, including France and Britain, which were the reason Germany didn't just take it.

I wouldn't agree it's similar to Austria, as Austrians were Germans and they voted for it.
Czechs is a long case having to do with Slovakian independence asking for assistance, but I agree that's a precedent set.

>Ah yes, the Bromberg Massacre, an incident that was caused as a result of German parisan groups on Polish forces and resulted in both Polish and German civilian deaths that I've already debunked twice. Do I need to do it a thrid time?
>Yet funnily enough, it was Poles who gave a huge autonomy to the laregly German region of Silesia. No such autonomy was ever granted to the Polish citizens by Third Reich.

You already agreed to the fact the dislike was mutual and I don't even claim the average Pole was on the same level as the average German.
That wasn't my point.

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>>126383866
>Germany indeed got hugely endebted during rule of National Socialists, and that is true as well
As you recall from the last thread:
>As you can see from pic related, their debt as a % of GDP was declining all up to 1939 -- there was no "debt driving them to war", in fact, the opposite.
To which you replied:
>You can have a high GDP and a high national debt at the same time. They are two separate things.
Again, debt as a percent of GDP is significant, especially in a Keynsean framework: if GDP grows such that debt is a tiny percentage, the debt is meaningless. Either way, it can't be a motive for war while the GDP is growing, and the deby as percent of GDP is low / shrinking. This is because deficit spending is positively correlated with GDP. Its a purely theoretical / speculative argument that their economy would have collapsed without war spending, since there's no empirical data (the country was destroyed).
>inb4 German war machine required constant war
Their GDP was growing regardless of whether they were actually at war or not, because a military industrial complex (military spending) doesn't require actual war. The US and many other nations today take advantage of this, and spend of their military despite not "being at war".
>inb4 German military spending was unsustainable
>German GDP in Billions of Dollars:

>1938 - 351
>1939 - 384
>1940 - 387
>1941 - 412
>1942 - 417
>1943 - 426
>1944 - 437
>1945 - 310

As far as millitary spending, Germany barely broke the US threshold of 40% of GDP, the entire duration of the war, and spent LESS THAN THEIR RIVALS in preparation building up to war:

>CHART 9 - spending as percent of Germany GDP:

>1935: 8%
>1936: 13%
>1937: 13%
>1938: 17%
>1939: 23%

http://voxeu.org/article/macroeconomics-germany-forgotten-lesson-hjalmar-schacht
http://www.nber.org/chapters/c9480.pdf
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/nazi-germany/nazi-germany-military-expenditure/

>>126385700
>Hitler saw other whites as his primary antagonists. And I'm still waiting for the quotes of him saying bad things about metizos or asians specifically.
>>126373539

> I also want to hear how do white nationalists justify Nazi collaboration with South American countries, which were basically built on racemixing.

Well, there was a romanticist notion of German colonialism in South America.
But, the collaboration with the Soviets was way more obvious of a sign of ideological hypocrisy.

In cases of state, ideology can't exclude mutual beneficiary relationships. I don't see why we'd have to meddle.

>I mean the general education. As I said, communist/socialist education attempted to learn students as vast knowledge as possible, but not all of it was certainly necessary. Western education on the other hand produced students focused on their field subject, but ignorant in all the others.

But the results had them lacking behind, aren't those more important?
Besides, I think that description is exactly what we have in liberal democracies right now, and it's not a good thing.

>>126385795
There is a huge difference though. Germanics left these lands willingly, and in the time when no states even existed. Slavs migrated in their place and after time, they started their own kindgoms.

Then, in middle ages, Germanic merchants started settling on slavic (Polish, above all) cities. Eventually, they became a majority and caused these lands being overtaken by ethnic German states. Often by lying, enforcing their "rights" and falsyfing documents. Does that tactics ring any bell? Protip: Jewish infiltration method. And yet, Germans did the exact same thing.

>Every side involved at all agreed Poland needed first to give its consent, including France and Britain, which were the reason Germany didn't just take it
Neither Britain nor France would agree for that either, so I don't see how does that make a point.

>You already agreed to the fact the dislike was mutual
Indeed. Yet, on the legal level, Poles were actually willing to go to concessions with German minorities, something that Germans on the other hand never did.

>>126386727
Have you ever, once in your life, been skeptical of the pro-Polish narratives they gave you?

I'm going to sleep now, so to any posts I didn't respond I will respond tomorrow. Good night.

>>126386855
thread will probably be dead by then

quote this post and I'll be able to find yours

>>126386963
There will be another general I guess

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>>126385795
But what about the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact? Didn't both the German Reich and the Soviet Union agreed upon splitting Poland as part of the agreement?

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>>126387525
That was after the German-Polish talks. Hitler became aware that Churchill and Lord Halifax were making deals with Poland behind Germany's back. So the Germans viewed the talks as a ruse by Poland from that point. Britain promised unconditional support to Poland if they went to war with Germany. When war finally broke out, the British and French barely mobilized, letting Poland fall hoping to exhaust the Germans before engaging them.

>>126387836
That was really insightful, thank you.

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>>126390969
www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/History/polandbetrayal.htm

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>>126378075

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14/88 brothers, the dawn of the fourth reich is soon

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>>126395037
Do you think that one day, things will sort out for good? That all this degenerate left culture will be destroyed and all races be preserved?

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>>126395465
One day the people will finally rise up against progressivism and crush the jews who seek to enslave us. That is almost definite, too many people know too much now. But before that we need a leader, a second Hitler to unite us against the common foe.

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Still working on it. If anyone has suggestions on color or where the text goes just go ahead and ask. I want to make it a png but it's too large for pol

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>>126395968
Sieg Heil my friend, may God hear your words.

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>>126396306
Are you the one making these Fashwave images?
If so, do you have another one with the Schwarze Sonne? Really like the symbol.

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How do you guys reconcile your views with the holocaust? I know some of you don't believe in that, but even just with the atrocities that they committed otherwise?

>>126396886
>but even just with the atrocities that they committed otherwise?
Such as?

>>126396886
If hitler killed 200 trillion jews it still wouldn't nullify the ideology of National Socialism

>>126396816
Ehh I'm not really into the black sun. But there are others that put it on all their stuff so I think you find someone who will fulfill your request

>>126397064
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_war_crimes#World_War_II

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>>126397282
Thanks anyway.

>>126397302
>wikipedia
>the first two words are literally MUH HOLOCAUST
Could you please pick a more legitimate source?

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>>126396886
>>126397302

This question gets asked a lot. Common answers include "atrocities happen in war, some spontaneously, some deliberately, by all sides". While that's true, that's not the correct place to start. Even if you don't doubt any aspect of the holocaust narrative, you can objectively recognize that it is, in fact, a narrative -- one crafted by the victors in a war. The saying "the victor writes the history books" applies here, but to what extent? I'll skip past the back and forth we might have, and just point you to some resources you can look through on your own, if you're truly curious, and your desire is to know the truth. Start with Hellstorm, then 'Questioning the Holocaust', then work your way through the rest.

>Hellstorm - Post-war Genocide of Germans
http://youtu.be/qkQ6J5F01Do
https://youtu.be/RddqP0ABzwM?list=PL8YiYG8PC_lcnEu0GPzXRBFkECVPadnpI
>Where did the "6 million" number come from?
https://youtu.be/jJ2X8UWHOjY
>Polish atrocities against the Germans
http://jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities.htm
>Eisenhower's Rhine-Meadows Death Camps
http://youtu.be/uMfk5UeGw4E
http://youtu.be/TsOouDLL_EA
http://youtu.be/P2bCCHKzDEQ
>The Rape of Berlin
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xdr4-B0q19E&feature=youtu.be
>Hitler's War - the Allies caused the war
http://youtu.be/MejbBsSAP8I

>Holocaust Revisionism
http://pastebin.com/Uc1EkvGZ

>>126397593
Your welcome.

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>>126396886
Oops, forgot one:
https://youtu.be/Yy56AONULn8

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卐 - HOLOHOAX
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>Pastebins
http://pastebin.com/35E6BdQ4
http://pastebin.com/Uc1EkvGZ
>In 10 seconds
http://youtu.be/oUGKmCdAaN4
>In 20 seconds
http://youtu.be/zGwn5R1PC9Q
>Eric Hunt: Majdanek
http://youtu.be/CHqlf0D9nuQ
>Eric Hunt: Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor
http://youtu.be/7dxsVSzL4HE
>David Cole
http://youtu.be/Os0eldMv-wE
http://youtu.be/RHzWo79dCHs
http://youtu.be/QxAvpvz_4wQ
>David Irving
http://youtu.be/MLloM6ufVgk
>Gerd Shulze-Ronhoff
http://youtu.be/MejbBsSAP8I
>Steven Anderson
http://youtu.be/rhGMCYWqKI
>The Haavara Agreement
https://youtu.be/zE_daetNn8s
https://youtu.be/VBLiohokieI
http://youtu.be/j-1ts3VTeeI
>The 6 million
“You shall return minus 6 million"
http://youtu.be/LjRsoLqHGr4

>>126397604
Well a lot of it is sourced


>>126397627
Thanks, I genuinely have a positive view of the philosophy itself and I've seen the speeches/propaganda videos posted here about it. One thing that stuck with me for around a year now is when the American Nazi guy Rockwell was saying in a speech "if you think about it long enough, you have to be a nazi" . It's just the good it seemed to do in Germany gets overshadowed by the bad, and it seems impossible to separate the two and love one side while hating the other. I haven't seen those before so I'll watch them

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>>126378075
卐 - CHRISTIANITY IN THE THIRD REICH
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>Christianity is the basis of the entire morality of Germany
http://youtu.be/KCwG13K7TAo [Embed]
>Hitler will never forsake God
http://youtu.be/MV1sVDU9E2E [Embed]
>Hitler defending Christianity
http://youtu.be/Sz42hBg4jys [Embed]
>Christianity and religion in Hitler's Germany
http://youtu.be/vat2wprB-0U [Embed]
>Debunking the anti-Christian myth
http://nobeliefs.com/HitlerSources.htm
>Christianity is not Jewish
http://pastebin.com/9cxmXPCB
>Adolf Hitler and Christianity
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_Christianity
>Debunking the Myths of "Nazi Occultism"
http://web.archive.org/web/20160104235914/http://justice4germans.com/2013/08/07/debunking-the-myths-of-nazi-occultism-national-socialism-was-christian/
>Hitler and Christianity - Smoloko
http://smoloko.com/?p=12985
>Was Catholic Hitler "Anti-Christian"?
http://harrington-sites.com/Carrier5.htm
>Positive Christianity in the Third Reich - D. Cajus Fabricius
http://balderexlibris.com/index.php?post/Fabricius-D-Cajus-Positive-Christianity-in-the-third-Reich
>Positive Christianity in the Third Reich
http://mk.christogenea.org/references/positive-christianity-third-reich

Christmas:
>Winterhilfswerk
http://youtu.be/FiIE6PSTA5M [Embed]
>The Winter Help Organization - Chapter from "The Case for Germany" (1938)
http://wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/caseforgermany/cfg13.html
>Christmas in the Reich - Hitler spending the holiday with close friends, Goebbels handing out presents, Goering dressed up as Santa. Good times.
http://youtu.be/RMT74PZTtiU [Embed]
>Living in Hitler's Germany: a letter from Hans Schmidt:
http://youtu.be/kdIb0ElUpG0 [Embed]
http://archive.org/stream/SchmidtLifeInHitlersGermany/Schmidt-LifeInHitlersGermany_djvu.txt

>>126396816
I'm not the guy who makes all those images, this was literally my first try.

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>>126398061
I wouldn't say "nothing happened", but there is a far more realistic narrative you can construct by looking through the revisionist literature. Some are kooks, but many are very serious, and very impressive. David Irving and Germar Rudolf are two of my favorites. Take everything skeptically, even if you respect the source:

https://youtu.be/PSYJBVvyP08
https://youtu.be/yBnMtkbWPCs

http://germarrudolf.com/germars-views/202-some-technical-and-chemical-considerations-about-the-gas-chambers-of-auschwitz-and-birkenau/
http://germarrudolf.com/germars-views/203-the-value-of-testimony-and-confessions-concerning-the-holocaust/

http://www.fpp.co.uk/menus/bookdownloads.html

>>126398547
David Irving is so fucking based that the kikes actually made some shitty indeh movie called "DENIAL" to try and discount his opinions, or something.

Unsurprisingly the film itself is godawful.

>>126399440
yeah. have you noticed there's at least 1-2 movies a year that repeat the holohoax somehow? It's like a regular schedule, to keep it fresh in people's minds.

https://youtu.be/PqQ9GC1DdwE

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>>126399573
>gotta make sure those filthy goys remember the 60 billion trillion lost in the holohoa- uh holocaust

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>>126399645
Daily reminder: you're here forever.

>>126378075
How can you believe that national socialism is perfect when it lost? I dont get it...

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>>126402774
How indeed

>>126402774
>perfect
Nothing is perfect.
>when it lost
If that's your standard for believing in things, are you a Bolshevik?

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I'm 25% jewish from my father's side, 25% Finnish and 50% American blend of British German and Dutch. Would I be gassed once the 4th Reich has risen?

>>126403261
Not for those reasons. You'll get gassed for asking retarded questions.

>>126402844
First of all, IT ONLY LASTED 12 YEARS. Second of all normy propaganda aside the average german was working a lot longer and earning less in nazi germany than in the weimar republic which is a fucking joke... I've read actual papers that use numbers from that time and it just isnt as good as these meme pictures make it. Made me lose hope.

>>126403843
>it only lasted 12 years
Yet each of those 12 years individually were better than all 73 years of the USSR combined.

>>126402883
Bolsheviks lost, technically the only people who havent lost is america but their system is gay. I am asking this question in order to shed some light on a broken system that needs to be tinkered with. If you repeat the mistakes of the past the same outcome will happen again. FFS hitler wanted to burn all of Germany when he started losing, they would've ended up like animals...

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>>126404004
>Bolsheviks lost
They won the war.
>technically the only people who havent lost is america but their system is gay
You feel like you "won" something?
>hitler wanted to burn all of Germany when he started losing
If you aren't bad at reading / lazy, and you actually care about knowing the truth, you should study the pastebin linked in the first post.

>>126404004
>hitler wanted to burn all of Germany when he started losing
Ahahaahhaha what

>>126403946
You're comparing Nazi Germany to a communist stay. I can compare a fucking tribal chiefdom to a communist state and I'd still win the argument. The system that nazi germany ran on is good, but needs improvement. Saddam Hussien did the same thing and failed. Anybody who tries the same thing again WILL fail. Change needs to happen to this "perfect" ideology of yours.

>>126404182
Seriously lurk / read the pastebin, its there to answer these questions.

>>126404170
So what if they win one war? their rule ended in an embarrassing coup... I talk about America because their system is the only one that remains unchanged, it adapts, true, but thats just a part of the process. Also please dont act like the shit is in the pastebin isnt exactly the shit Hitler would show his ppl to brain wash them. No matter how great a ruler/government. I always cringe at propaganda, no matter how well its orchestrated or delivered.

>>126404276
Currently reading Albert Speers "Inside the third Riech". I know he was very apologetic when he wrote that but dont you think he makes alot of points? thats the basis for my question.

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>>126404483
>So what if they win one war?
Your first question was
>How can you believe that national socialism is perfect when it lost?
Did you forget your own question that started this conversation?

>>126403261

That depends, are you okay with your grandfather and father being gassed?

>>126404663
>implying anyone ever got gassed

>>126404174
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nero_Decree
Sorry to break your little lie of a dream world... But if you wanna carry the torch of national socialism, might as well learn from those who tried before you...

Hitler despised Christianity

>>126404650
By win or lose, I mean survival of the regime, the war nazi germany lost was about its own survival. Not every war is so.

>>126404718
>implying people won't in the 4th reich

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>>126404767
???

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>>126404854
>By win or lose, I mean survival of the regime
You shifted the goalpost. Ok, lets pretend you asked: "their government ended, why do you still believe in it?" It didn't collapse from internal failure; it was crushed by three world powers. Prior to that, it functioned perfectly well -- better than its rivals.

>>126404863
>implying anyone needs to
Its just a meme, ya dip.

>>126404937
He was publicly a Christian, but privately he despised Christianity
I guarantee any politician isn't Christian, the elites are far too educated on the nature and purpose of Christianity to actually be a Christian themselves

>>126405121
I think you misunderstand my question as antagonistic. I undoubtedly think that national socialism is the best system, especially at the time. But if it was that great, why did it have to be in a situation like WW2? Could you really argue that Hitler had perfected every inch of germany? because if so he would've easily beaten any world power.

>>126405258
>but privately he despised Christianity
You can't just make claims without sources, you dumb leaf.

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>they think socialism works

>>126405258
>but privately he despised Christianity
Ok, now I ask you to prove it, and you post tinfag sources.

Go.

>>126405298
>But if it was that great, why did it have to be in a situation like WW2?
That's irrelevant to the design or success of the system. As Churchill said, "I don't care if its run by Hitler or a Jesuit priest, Germany must be crushed".

>>126405381
>thinks he knows what socialism is

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>>126405381
>oh gee i can't believe it's this post again

>>126405381
saved

>>126405441
Hitler declared war on Poland first, lets not act like Britain wanted war... They sucked the Reichs dick for years before in order to prevent it. Also you might say that it was Churchill's intention but you forget that Churchill was a wartime PM. If the world wasnt moving towards war he wouldnt have gotten that position as he was far too aggressive for Britain's liking.

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>>126405705
>durr hitler invading poland started the war
Can't tell if you're a shill or just stupid

>>126402349
>autopsies
Ovens

>>126405705
Churchill was funded by the Focus, a group of jews which wanted a second war in Europe. None of the british wanted war in Europe before Churchill started agitating towards it.

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>>126405705
>Hitler declared war on Poland first
Poland attacked Germany at Gleiwitz.
>lets not act like Britain wanted war... They sucked the Reichs dick for years before in order to prevent it.
Pic related. Churchill and Lord Halifax privately sabotaged the Polish-German anti-Comintern treaty talks, by promising Poland unconditional support if they went to war with Germany. For several centuries, it's been Britain's forging policy to prevent the rise of a great power on the continent of Europe, at least since the Glorious Revolution of 1688.
>>126405917
>can't even find buried bodies where witnesses said they'd be
MYT

>>126405899
Can you stop with your retarded propaganda memes please? me and the other gentleman were having a civil conversation. Who the fuck wants a war the a country that can anally rape them in a month? Nothing of pre WW2 Poland survived into todays world, not even its borders. So shoo with your garbage arguments.

>>126405441
It's pretty fucking obvious that there is no such thing as Christian politicians you idiots. Politicians are all occultists
Hitler killed himself on the Walpurgis night, which in folklore about Satanism is when the infernal powers become strongest and a sacred night in old traditions of witchcraft
It was obvious he was involved in occult paganism
There are many quotes reveal his true attitude towards Christianity, I'm not going to serve you utter retards
You probably think Trump is a christian to, pathetic

>>126397593
Cute!

>>126406108
>Politicians are all occultists
Still waiting for those tinfag sources you were supposed to post.

>>126406095
>i don't like the facts he's giving me
>it must be propaganda!
Holy fuck you really are retarded. Goddamn.

>>126405983
Sure Churchill wanted war, but he made the first move when he could have totally avoided it. Did he fall into a trap? Cant be that.. He simply played his hands wrong if you ask me.

>>126406194
You're utter stupidity makes me cringe, stay in the dark retard. I'm not helping you

>>126406209
If you call what you're showing me facts, then let me make you a fact using MS paint in 10 mins you fucking imbecile.

>>126406233
>Sure Churchill wanted war
You just moved the goalpost again. You JUST said:
> lets not act like Britain wanted war... They sucked the Reichs dick for years before in order to prevent it.
Stop shifting your position to avoid conceding points please. Or we won't make any progress.
>>126406302
>tldr tinfag noises
Still waiting on your UFO photos.

>>126406356
It's a quote with a source. It's a legit quote, look it up. We''ll wait.

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>>126406356
Go look up the goddamn quote yourself then. Nothing's stopping you from fact checking information.

>>126406361
>Every incite on history that contradicts the mainstream is tinfoil
This is why you are a tool
There are far too many strong hints that politicians are involved in the occult
Explain why Hitler killed himself on the most holy night in old traditions of witchcraft... pure coincidence?

>>126406061
>Poland attacked Germany at Gleiwitz.
Oh please why on earth would Poland's first move be to raid a fucking radio tower? They were apes but not of that level.

Churchill only held complete power after the war had started. It was still Hitler who made the first move.

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>>126406551
>Hitler killed himself

>>126406361
I'm not shifting anything. Britain (the country and its peoples) didnt want war just as America didnt want war. It was the leaders of those two who did. Don't act like the leaders of countries have the same opinions as common folk. My point is still that the national socialism expressed in germany (which is what this thread is advocating) made far too many mistakes in order for it to be viable without some serious changes.

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>>126403843
Pretty much this, Nazi Germany was a shit place to live in if you look at the actual numbers and not just the propaganda. The German's landscape was destroyed, their cities ruined and they were in constant fear of bombs being dropped on there heads. They lived under an oppressive government that segregated them by ethnicity, religion and political ideology and constantly tried to control their minds. You weren't allowed to chose who you did business with, socialized with or married. Command capitalism removed any profit motive and you were essentially working to strengthen the government that was oppressing you. Even if you ignore the bigotry and the totalitarian government, National Socialist economics were fucking retarded and the primary reason why National Socialism failed. From 1933-1938, Germany's economy boomed but by 1939, Hitler had built up such a large national debt that he was unable to pay it and had to get loans that he could pay back from other Axis Powers. He then started borrowing money to payback borrowed money creating one gigantic Ponzi scheme. By 1943 the economy nose dived causing Germany to lose by 1945. National Socialism only lasted 12 years and was a fucking pathetic ideology.

>>126406453
A picture with some writing gives me no proof to its legitimacy (I'm talking about the Polish field marshal one). If Poland truly wanted war, wouldnt there be solid proof of plans? troop placement? radical war economy policies? There are none, but guess who was ready for war as soon as they were "attacked by poland"? Germany thats who.

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>>126406551
>Explain why Hitler killed himself on the most holy night in old traditions of witchcraft
tinfag sources please? still waiting
>>126406601
Asking me why they would raid a tower is called "argument from ignorance". ISHYDD.
>Churchill only held complete power after the war had started
Churchill and Lord Halifax made an unconditional offer of support to Josef Beck, that England and France would come to Poland's aid in the event of war with Germany. France signed a treaty to this effect, then broke it. It's called "the British Betrayal", google it. Source is pic related, might actually be in the pol books archive.

Link related provides a basic rundown:
www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/History/polandbetrayal.htm>>1

26406816
>I'm not shifting anything.
Twice so far. I let the first one slide, but the second one was too blatant.
>Britain (the country and its peoples) didnt want war just as America didnt want war
If you want, I can shower you with sources proving that they did. It's common knowledge. I've already linked several sources, but it sounds like you're ignoring them. Reply to the sources I give you: refute them, or accept them. If you ignore them, you're arguing in bad faith and I won't waste time. Its an abuse of my effort.

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1495347471386.jpg

>>126405899
Fake.
There was no Daily Mail issue on Aug. 6th 1939.

Prove me wrong. Produce the issue.

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>>126406986
It literally shows the fucking quote there, with the source, with the person who said it. Fucking look it up yourself, holy fuck.
>muh military
Didn't even take up that large a part of their GDP. They had a big military because they could.

>>126407048
>There was no Daily Mail issue on Aug. 6th 1939
Prove it.

>>126406830
Thats what I'm trying to explain to these people. The ideology they are trying to follow is so flawed yet they follow it just because it shares noble goals of purity and diligence.

>>126406830
>country that is being bombarded by 3 of the world's economic and military superpowers was turned into shit and destroyed
Gee thanks for that info sherlock.

>>126407142
Daily Mail didn't run on Sundays until the 1980s. Guess what weekday Aug. 6th 1939 was?

You look quite foolish now.

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>>126407048
>"Herr Foerster cited the opinions of Britons and Frenchmen including Mr Lloyd George and Mr Churchill to the effect that 'the Polish corridor was a mistake', hissed when he read out inflammatory statements by Polish newspapers, including the statement in 'Czas' that Poland would blow Danzig to bits if it united with Germany and the recent threat by Marshal Smigly-Rydz that Danzig would be the first stage in a cruisade against Germany."
- The Advertiser (Adelaide), 12 August 1939
Source:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/41083410?searchTerm=Smig%26%23322%3By-Rydz

>"General Sosnkowski, second-in-command of the Polish army, declared : — 'Pilsudski's legionnaires were particularly favoured by history because it seems that they will partcipate in a second international war in which Poland will be one of the most important and most exposed actors in the drama'."
- Kalgoorlie Miner, 7 August, 1939
Source:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/94852275?searchTerm=sosnkowski

>>126407502
>You look quite foolish now.
See: >>126407520

>>126407037
I asked why they would raid a tower because it dosnt make any strategical sense at all. Poland had marshal that were very experienced so for them to make such a blunder would be unexplainable. As for the proof, you have only shown me that Hitler didnt want war with the British and that British Leaders (Churchil and Halifax) did and not what the people of each country wanted. Churchil needed a cause to declare war just like Roosevelt did in 41' when Hitler literally handed it to them.

>>126407123
Saying that 25%< isnt a big part of their GDP is fucking retarded, you do realize that the majority of GDP is used to keep the country running right?

>>126407520
That's the best you could do? The quote is still a fantasy. Maybe believe harder.

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>>126407557
>Poland wouldn't make a mistake, so I accept the alternative story, based on the confession of a German prisoner after the war, that it was an elaborate false-flag involving the bodies of German convicts dressed as SS, and captured Polish commandos
Occams Razor is trash anyway, fuck it. At least one thing is clear: tensions between Germany and Poland were high, and Poland was being antagonistic. Regardless, your original claim was that Britain had nothing to do with it (refuted), Poland wanted peace (refuted), and Germany was being insane.
>>126407806
>That's the best you could do?
Finding a paraphrase of Smigley's threats? You lost the point. Move on now.

>>126378075
Where would someone interested in NS start reading? Apart from Mein Kampf. Talking redpill literature here, eye opening to the NS truth

>>126407895
Study the pastebin, start with the books sections:

卐 - BOOKS (1)
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>Oswald Spengler - Prussianism and Socialism
https://archive.is/Kt6UF
>Alfred Rosenberg's Criticism of Spengler
https://archive.org/download/AlfredRosenbergsCriticismOfOswaldSpengler/RosenbergCriticismOfSpengler.pdf
>Karl Marx - A Critique of the German Ideology
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/Marx_The_German_Ideology.pdf
>Adolf Hitler - Mein Kampf (English)
Ford: http://nationalactionlondon.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/adolf-hitler-mein-kampf-ford-translation.pdf
Stalag: http://endchan.xyz/.media/a18332e643d7cb83515627b693496fc0-applicationpdf
Kindle: http://my.mixtape.moe/ktzprb.azw3
EPUB: http://my.mixtape.moe/uucnjk.epub
>Adolf Hitler - Mein Kampf (Deutsch)
http://archive.org/details/Hitler-Adolf-Mein-Kampf
>Adolf Hitler - The Words of Adolf Hitler
http://archive.org/details/WordsOfHitler_201307
>Adolf Ehrt - Communism in Germany
http://archive.org/details/CommunismInGermany
>Adolf Ehrt - Bewaffnetter Aufstand!
http://archive.org/details/BewaffnetterAufstand
>Gottfried Feder - The Program Of The NSDAP The National Socialist Workers' Party And Its General Conceptions
http://archive.org/details/GottfriedFeder_TheProgramOfTheNSDAP
>Gottfried Feder - Das Programm der NSDAP (Deutsch)
http://archive.org/details/Feder-Gottfried-Das-Programm-der-NSDAP
>Gottfried Feder - Manifesto For The Abolition Of Interest Slavery
http://archive.org/details/GottfriedFederManifestoForTheAbolitionOfInterestSlavery1919
>Gottfried Feder The German State On A National And Socialist Foundation
http://archive.org/details/GottfriedFederTheGermanStateOnANationalAndSocialistFoundation
>James Mason - 'Siege'
http://laraj.ca/AGwiki/uploads/Fascism/America/James%20Mason%20-%20Siege.pdf
>ORIGINAL National Socialist speeches and essays (archives)
http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/pre1933.htm
http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/ww2era.htm#Material

>>126407862
I willfully concede after you remake the meme with the appropriate *paraphrase* and the appropriate citation.

Until then, its just a lot of rubbish.

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>>126408069
You said "this doesnt exist prove me wrong", but you didnt prove it didnt exist. You said something about a date, but its possible -- if its true it was a Sunday -- that a Sunday edition would be printed on eve of war. So, I gave you Smigley's threats, and another officer named Sosnkowski -- two sources of importance instead of one. Sosnkowski's words were reported in several other British newspapers. The point is settled, let's move on.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/46414370?searchTerm=sosnkowski&searchLimits=exactPhrase|||anyWords|||notWords|||l-textSearchScope=*ignore*%7C*ignore*|||fromdd=01|||frommm=08|||fromyyyy=1939|||todd=31|||tomm=08|||toyyyy=1939|||l-word=*ignore*%7C*ignore*|||sortby

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/68316591?searchTerm=sosnkowski&searchLimits=exactPhrase|||anyWords|||notWords|||l-textSearchScope=*ignore*%7C*ignore*|||fromdd=01|||frommm=08|||fromyyyy=1939|||todd=31|||tomm=08|||toyyyy=1939|||l-word=*ignore*%7C*ignore*|||sortby

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/98597109?searchTerm=sosnkowski&searchLimits=exactPhrase|||anyWords|||notWords|||l-textSearchScope=*ignore*%7C*ignore*|||fromdd=01|||frommm=08|||fromyyyy=1939|||todd=31|||tomm=08|||toyyyy=1939|||l-word=*ignore*%7C*ignore*|||sortby

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/52323320?searchTerm=sosnkowski&searchLimits=exactPhrase|||anyWords|||notWords|||l-textSearchScope=*ignore*%7C*ignore*|||fromdd=01|||frommm=08|||fromyyyy=1939|||todd=31|||tomm=08|||toyyyy=1939|||l-word=*ignore*%7C*ignore*|||sortby

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/17609487?searchTerm=sosnkowski&searchLimits=exactPhrase|||anyWords|||notWords|||l-textSearchScope=*ignore*%7C*ignore*|||fromdd=01|||frommm=08|||fromyyyy=1939|||todd=31|||tomm=08|||toyyyy=1939|||l-word=*ignore*%7C*ignore*|||sortby

See also 'der krieg der viele väter hatte' by Schulz_Ronhoff for more detail of the lead up to war on both sides, and the collapse of the German-Polish anti-Comintern talks.

>>126407862
Thats not called a mistake, its a fucking blunder dude. Its even worse than Pearl Harbor (If you believe japan actually did that without being baited)

>>126408597
Assuming it was actually a mistake. That's your speculation. It would be an advanced action if they were preparing for war, taking out comms.

>>126408597
REMINDER: the entire world thought Germany's military was a joke before Poland and France. Beck even bragged that "we would be in Berlin within two weeks time". Smigley had a painting of himself made, on a horse, marching before the Brandenburg gate. They had no idea what was about to happen.

>>126408739
What Poland did to Germany there is like a 100 pound kid breaking a 250 pound mans thumb or some dumb shit like that in a fight...

>>126408879
You're arguing from intuition. Dude, you can repeat that opinion a million times, its irrelevant. It would be what you expect from preparations for invasion, if Poland was about to invade. See: >>126408852

>>126408448
Yes, your effort does deserve some merit. And I'd be open to believe that the spirit of the quote is believable. But you haven't given me the smoking gun.

My issue is that I can crop a picture, write am imaginary quotation (that has relevance), and then add a make believe source. Don't you agree that that's not factual? You showed that it has relevance. But relevance isn't credence. And that source is so completely dubious that it undermines the statement.

>>126409167
>But you haven't given me the smoking gun.
Dude, what smoking gun? The burden of proof is on the people claiming "it was an elaborate ruse, a false flag" based on the testimony of a German prisoner. We know how extensive torture of prisoners was after the war, so confessions and testimony of prisoners is essentially trash. No proof of claims, means no proof is required to disprove.
>then add a make believe source.
lol this is what google is for. Why are there so many people on this site that seem incapable of checking sources? In most cases it takes literally seconds. Its not like we're in a hurry to get to the bump limit here.

Why so many nazis end up by converting into salafi islam?

>>126409167
oops wrong comment reply. Same situation, you cant just say "it doesnt exist prove me wrong". I can say that to anything, its bullshit. Go look up the source listed. If you read German, this series has a lot of sources too:

https://archive.org/details/KosiekRolfURoseOlafDerGrosseWendigRichtigstellungenZurZeitgeschichteBand2

>>126409768
Because Ukrainians are strange, i dont read Ukrainian or I'd be able to explain.

ok, im falling asleep at my desk, i need to go to bed. Good luck all.

>>126409839
Not only Ukranians, but also Russians. Doesnt the same go for nazis from western countries?

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>>126407214
>Thats what I'm trying to explain to these people. The ideology they are trying to follow is so flawed yet they follow it just because it shares noble goals of purity and diligence.
The reason why they follow it is because they're lazy pieces of shit who can't get their shit together and need an oppressive totalitarian government to do it for them. Freedom requires hard work and responsibility for success. NatCucks are too lazy to achieve anything for themselves and feel that they are entitled to success because of the color of their skin. They ride the coat tails of our ancestors instead of putting in the hard work and creating their own history. This sense of entitlement is going to lead the failure of the white race because instead of teaching white children to compete and work harder than their non-white counterparts, National-Cuckoldism teaches them to be pussies who hide behind the state and use it to weaken the strength of minorities. I believe that the white race is superior and I believe that we can prove it without the need of intervention from the state. I would rather showcase my superiority by beating a nigger in a race who is operating at full strength than one who is trying to win the race with only one leg. I also recognize that even though the white race is superior, we have our flaws and minorities occasionally do certain things better than we can. So we should learn from them through competition so we can better adapt as a white race.

>>126407444
>Be Nazi Germany.
>Build economy based on command capitalism and an industrial military complex.
>Build up huge national debt.
>Have to use industrial military complex to start wars to artificially increase demand.
>Start wars with too many countries at once to stop economy from failing.
>Lose.
Quit pretending everyone else was trying to bully Nazi Germany when the fact of the matter is that National Socialism is a failed ideology.

>>126410082
You're a fucking idiot , we need to treat everyone else like shit until they leave us alone.

>>126410082
>nazi germany started the war hurrrrr
>this exact same porn pic posted by same shill every time
Jesus christ we fell in hook line and sinker.

>>126409776
I don't think my challenge is unreasonable. I think that quotation is literally fake news. I have a very rational claim as to why, i.e. source was not printed on that date.

When I say 'prove me wrong,' I mean there is a source included in the image. So why not produce it? Why spend all this time gathering secondary evidence of the sentiment of the quote? Just give me the actual source that's clearly listed and I'll happily accept it.

Look, I don't think you can argue that it is authentic by citing other sources, yet not providing the primary source. That's odd to me. If it's real, why is it so hard to find?

non-natsoc here with a question

why does it seem like natsocs have hugely varying ideas on collectivizing races as villains, so to speak? Half the time they talk about how Hitler didn't hate all Jews, only the (((international banking clique))) that ran the Weimar Republic, but his writings and actions clearly don't support that, regardless of how many Jews were supposedly in the SS; and on the other hand there are tons of natsocs who think all Jews are bad, period, regardless of how they act or think. Can any of you guys give me some insight, because I find it very odd

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Hail victory brothers, how goes it?

>>126378075
What about genetic enginiering everybody to be Aryans instead of killing billions and taking centuries to replace then with your babies? Women don't want to breed anymore.

>>126410572
>Women don't want to breed anymore.

What? Of course they do, they've just been brainwashed into taking the wrong paths in life, most of them have hit their wall before the biological imperative catches up with them.

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>>126410266
>WWWAAAHHH WWWAAAHHH, I'm a NatCuck whose ideology is based purely on "muh feels", and I am too stupid to defend my retarded ideology.
I like how you cucks play identity politics like these libtards you bitch about.

>>126410287
>nazi germany started the war hurrrrr
It did. Sooner or later you'll learn that every war in history has been fought over financial interests. National Socialism was economically retarded and stepped on a lot of peoples private interests.

>this exact same porn pic posted by same shill every time
Not a shill, I trigger NatCucks for free. However, I wouldn't mind getting payed for it if you know anyone looking for work.

>Jesus christ we fell in hook line and sinker.
You always do.

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>>126410529
>Half the time they talk about how Hitler didn't hate all Jews, only the (((international banking clique))) that ran the Weimar Republic, but his writings and actions clearly don't support that
George Lincoln Rockwell put it best, the reason why people refer to them as "the jews" and not "the international bankers" is because being Jewish is what defines them, not being bankers. It's not just the bankers too, he also despised the jews who believed they were racially/culturally superior to goyim.

>and on the other hand there are tons of natsocs who think all Jews are bad, period, regardless of how they act or think
Stormfags aren't natsocs (at least in the eyes of most natsocs), and the majority of "GAS THE KIKES" memes are, well, memes. If a NatSoc society were to truly take power the worst that would happen to the jews would be deportation to Israel or something.

>>126411041
Have your (You) and head on back to /leftypol/

>>126410529
hello cnn, I suggest that for a concise and direct answer to all these questions you consult our primary disciple twitter@bronzeagepervert

>>126411103
ah yes, we will "only" deport them to israel because they've been so compliant with the "hey, stop funding the people and judges who are raping 12 year old white girls

I'm sure they'll just let go oft he banks and media and head to israel peacefully. after all, look how well they handle the rape of 1600 white children

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>>126378075
>National Socialism
>(((Socialism)))

>>>/r/socialism

>>126411103
thanks anon. That's an interesting take. I think it's unfortunate that so much of the natsoc-like community is overrun by Stormfags because they seem to be pretty bad at making any sort of logical argument. If they get cornered they just stop responding and spam propaganda infographics that have little or nothing to do with the conversation. I've never really considered the idea that there'd be a significant ideological split in the community other than Hitlerites vs. Strasserists

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>>126411103
>Have your (You) and head on back to /leftypol/
Thanks for the (You), I think I'll stay here on /pol/ though. Unlike NatCucks, I don't need an echo chamber to reinforce my ideology and would rather shit post here against the opposition because the competition improves my arguments.

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>>126411393
I forgot to mention the part where we seize their banks, companies and private assets before deportation. Then we impose a shit ton of sanctions on israel to ensure that they can't do jack shit to us. Then we deport anyone who has funding from jews/israel to ensure that their influence is gone. Problem solved.

>>126411489
Teach me how to be a winner like you senpai.

>>126411553
ah, yes, and this all happens without violence. sure.

you know, if someone holds a gun to your head to maintain his ability to whore out 12 year olds to pakis, I'm not sure you should let himwalk away, genius

I mean, call me a stormfag but, uh...

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>>126411644
>Quit thinking the world revolves around you or owes you anything.
>Go to bed.
>Wake up a 5 a.m.
>Take a shower.
>Get a job.
>Work hard.
>Profit.
>Spend your profits that you earned through hard work on shit that makes you happy.
>Everything else (vehicle, house, wife) will naturally falls into place.

>>126411885
I said mass deportation, I never said that force wouldn't be required for a certain few people...

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>>126411951
>Quit thinking the world revolves around you or owes you anything.

Sure.

>Go to bed.
>Wake up a 5 a.m.

Ugh , fine.

>Take a shower.

I do that everyday.

>Get a job.

Alright mom , i'll get a fucking job.

>Work hard.

Work smart.

>Profit.

Winner.

>Spend your profits that you earned through hard work on shit that makes you happy.

Meth.

>Everything else (vehicle, house, wife) will naturally falls into place.

Basically be a normie.

K got it , thanks anon.

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>>126412360
You're welcome.

>>126411951
Holy fuck can this try hard kikes be anymore obvious.

>>126403261
That really depends in how "jewish" your looks/lineage really is. For example your grandfather could have been only a little but jewish and you'd pass the laws.

Anyone have some good links to NSBM downloads? I lost much of my collection after an hdd crasb

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>>126378075
Hail victory!

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God love the man who stands for his nation, his people, and the Lord.

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>>126378075
>that series

JESUS CHRIST

HOW HORRIFYING

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>>126378075
Hail victory!

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>>126410571
Pretty good bruder, just posting here with my young son laying on me asleep, very comfy feeling

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>>126421134
Yourself?

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>>126415369
> metaldl dot blogspot dot co dot uk/?m=1

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>>126421786

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>>126421865

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMwdjCVc3O0

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Bumpity bump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8q7eotJ9QY

>>126396886
When they asked Evola if he knew that the protocols of the elders of Zion are fake he replied that it doesn't matter. I'm on the same opinion for the holocaust. The real redpill is if you look up what happened between 1918-1933 in Germany.