The Faggot Redpill

>>126354562

Because it is. You know it. You dont need a scientific study to tell you that. Just like you know murder or rape is wrong. If the image/thought of sodomy doesn't bother you at all, well...

Now, aside from the moral stuff, it's a health risk. AIDS, bleeding, infections cause you know, you re getting shit up that pee hole.

>>126354562
Sounds like you're jealous of gays getting so much sex. Be honest, though, if you had absolutely no chance of impregnating any of your partners, you'd be less apprehensive about have sex. But since you're an out of shape, loveless virgin who has no charm and stunted communication skills, you haven't had too many opportunities to fuck a woman.

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>>126355546
How did you know?? Pic related is me

Young gay guy here.
I'm fairly attractive, and I've enjoyed homosex.
I also have a good amount of life experience.

I'd be willing to try conversion therapy / psychiatric help if it wasn't all bogged down by religious dogma. Not in distress about it or anything, just curious to see if it would yield any changes.

>>126356188
no, please dont. Stick to buttfucking AIDS shit life and remove yourself from the gene pool. The last thing we need is homos reproducing

it's a mental disorder because if it wasn't those genes would've died out a long time ago.

>>126356188
Here's the easiest way to see if you're pussy compatable.

Step 1. Fuck a chick.
Step 2. Was it enjoyable?

There, you've just audited your faggotry.

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It's time

>>126356464
>Romania
>remove yourself from the gene pool
u jelly of my Western aesthetics, Vasile?
Also, way to buy into the "gay genetics" fallacy, fucktard.
See >>126356574

>>126356600
simple enough

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>>126354562

>>126357452
thanks, this is exactly what I'm looking for.

>>126354562
The skin in the anus is very thin because it is not a sexual organ that is why Gay people have high rates of AIDs because bleeding during gay sex is common. The sphincter muscle is designed to keep things in so you dont shit everywhere not keep things out therefore anal sex goes against mature because it is being used in a way it was not designed to be

everyone starts as a female in the womb. i assume gay dudes brains just don't make the full transition into male mentally

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got some more

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>>126358233
you're really interested in fags my dude

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>>126358303
yes, very humerous

HOWEVER

they are one of the most destructive and degenerate forces in society today

>>126354562
God fucking damnit, this again.

Can you people at the very least use studies that are not 4 decades old or sources like the (((San Francisco Sentinel)))?

OP, I need you to delete that idiotic picture because whenever you use it and someone actually bothers looking at the sources, your argument is suddenly void because your sources are either shit or so outdated they don't apply to current generations.

What you have right there is not 'your best redpill', it's shit. It's nothing.
If you want a proper argument, research proper, new stuff. Cite studies relevant to people actually alive right now.

Every two days the same shit, I swear to god you idiots just don't learn.

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>>126358484
i appreciate the posts brah

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>>126358848
no problem, the memes must flow!

If you took a heterosexual person and, from childhood, did the following things you would end up with similar statistics on them. Imagine how warped and sick an average heterosexual person would end up if, from childhood:
• told from birth they are degenerate scum, less than human, perverted because of the attractions and sexual feelings that they feel naturally from earliest ages
• their innate romantic and sexual feelings relentlessly mocked, punished, and labeled as evil, sinful and degenerate
• given zero advice or guidance in how to socialize, date, have relationships with the people to whom they are innately attracted; forced to mimic those things with people to whom they have no attraction
• in the face of outright attacks, rejection and suppression of normal relationships with the people to whom they are attracted, they instead seek out encounters in unsafe and unhealthy outlets such as public sex, anonymous sex and unsafe sex
• The violence, shame and stigma applied to their sexuality and relationships result in a hesitation to seek proper medical care and rejection/discrimination from healthcare providers when they do seek medical care

Shocking that fags haven't achieved the perfection that is men/women relationships as described by you so called red pillers.

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ITT:
People that can not differentiate between a guy who likes men and (((gay or LGBT culture))).

One is something that has existed since men and women do, the other is a cancer on our society.

The problem is not the homosexuality, it's the shit attached to it.

Countries like China and Japan had a long history of homosexuality that had no negative influence on the culture until western idiots started making a big fuss about it and turned it from a thing you do and noone cares about into the big blown up issue.

The solution is very simple: Stop turning it into some shitty identity politics shit that can be used by retards to create their little groups and identities and just don't give a shit about it.

What we need to get rid of, best with tons of Zyklon B and Deathsquads killing every last one of them is:
>pic related

>>126360183
you appear to be retarded, faggotry is caused by a disease called T.gondii
see >>126358378

>>126360460
Or you could do your own research and see that the guy who made the toxoplasma gondii post was shifting facts all so slightly to fit his idea.

He claims that rats are sexually attracted to cat urine after infection, when in reality rats are naturally repulsed by cat urine (Of course they are. If they smell it that means that one of their biggest predators is nearby.) and Toxoplasma Gondii simply decreases the aversion to cat urine.

It's not a manipulation of sexual preferences as that guy would like you to think, it's turning off the flight reflex rats have when they smell cat piss.

Now, in the very unlikely case that Toxoplasma Gondii has the same effect on humans, it would not turn you into a cocksucker. It would instead make you change your behaviour towards cats in a similar way.
Get the funds and do a study on the correlation between people infected with Toxoplasma Gondii and people who are not repulsed by the idea of cleaning cat litter, we might get some interesting results on how people perceive cats before and after infection.
Why cats? Because Toxoplasma Gondii can only properly reproduce in felids.

>>126360183
it's the same in SF, the most gay-friendly city in the world

>>126356188
I was under the impression that coversion therapy had more to do with familial role relationships and nothing to do with religion.

>>126361340
SF is a cancer and the result of what >>126360183 wrote, not the cause or the solution.

Look instead at cultures that never had any of the stigmas attached to it until they were introduced to them by others.

>>126361321
>Get the funds and do a study
kek

sure, brb

One of the best, most red-pilled threads I've ever seen.

>>126361784
What is this, fucking reddit?

Do I need to add /s to things not meant seriously?

>>126361896
oh, you're whole past was sarcasm? I see, my mistake

you are entitled to your opinion, but so are we, and I think the t.gondii theory makes sense

>>126362279
Science isn't based on opinions.

If you think cat piss tastes delicious and I disagree, those are opinions and we can both go in peace leaving the other with his opinion and think "What an idiot, cat piss is totally delicious/disgusting. His loss!".

But in this case we are arguing about facts. 1 and 0. Yes and No.

Correlation does not imply causation, the good old meme. All that.

And the guy who made the t. gondii post damaged his own theory by manipulating facts to make it seem more valid.

>>126358484
nope

you're wrong.

Islam

>>126362636
what are you trying to say?

>>126363029
That in this case, no, you are not entitled to your opinion because there aren't multiple viewpoints.
You don't "believe" that t.gondii causes dicksucking.
It is not a matter of opinions, it's a matter of the facts.

And the facts in the picture linked have been manipulated, making the conclusion invalid because it is based on wrong facts.

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>>126362991
>one of
I do have a fairly large folder on islam too

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>>126363344
what are the wrong facts?

>>126364051
See >>126361321
>He claims that rats are sexually attracted to cat urine after infection, when in reality rats are naturally repulsed by cat urine (Of course they are. If they smell it that means that one of their biggest predators is nearby.) and Toxoplasma Gondii simply decreases the aversion to cat urine.
>It's not a manipulation of sexual preferences as that guy would like you to think, it's turning off the flight reflex rats have when they smell cat piss.

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thanks anon

>>126358817
kek will do

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>>126364174
my please bro

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>>126354562
This disgusts the faggot and the jew only.

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>>126364160
>He claims that rats are sexually attracted to cat urine after infection, when in reality rats are naturally repulsed by cat urine (Of course they are. If they smell it that means that one of their biggest predators is nearby.) and Toxoplasma Gondii simply decreases the aversion to cat urine.
do you have a citation?

>>126364323
Please, please do.
By all means, the way homosexuality has developed in the west is utterly disgusting and every little bit that turns someone against this disgusting and shit (((LGBT culture))) is welcome.
But you need to make sure to actually use proper sources that can not be disregarded because of age or other reasons.

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>>126358817
>Can you people at the very least use studies that are not 4 decades old
wew, we'd better re-examine gravity huh? I mean, that's over 50! years old now

>>126354562
>goal of all life is to reproduce
>become the one thing that makes sure you can never reproduce

gg gays

seriously. if this was a game, the winner is the one who makes babbies. fags are like "hmmmm this class says *YOU CANNOT WIN WITH THIS CLASS* I think I'll pick that one!"

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>>126354562
>Why is being gay a mental disorder?
Well, my friend, you seem to be mistaken on what "red pill" means. Due to your language ("faggots") I assume that you are here deliberately searching for information which matches your worldview rather than building your worldview upon the information that is present. This is confirmation bias, and it is bluepilled.

The redpilled individual would not form an opinion on homosexuals until they have seen sufficient information.

>>126355262
Why does everyone resort to the "lol ew gay sex le aids" shit when discussing homosexuals? There's perfectly good points to be made about homosexuals having no biological function and thus should not adopting/marrying/infringing on the societal responsibilities and duties of normal heterosexuals.

There's literally nothing wrong with homosexual acts with men, it's the homosexual identity and promiscuity that's the issue.

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>>126364810
nice bait

>>126364810
Cmon everyone knows being a faggot is a mental disorder, now I'm just looking for more info to add to what I already have.

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>>126364810
do you even know about how faggotry was removed from the DSM(mental disorder listing)? the faggots invaded the annual conference and intimidated them into it

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>>126364979
>There's literally nothing wrong with homosexual acts with men
hahahahah

seriously?

>>126365340
I never stated my opinion. I merely stated that OP is searching for information to confirm his own beliefs.

see >>126365042
He says that he has already made his decision, whilst also admitting he hasn't seen all of the information. Regardless of his belief, he is bluepilled.

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>>126365554
but faggotry IS a mental disorder

it's not blupilled to acknowledge this

>>126364753
The goal of life is not reproduction.
The goal of life is to make sure that your genes survive.

For that reason it is not always your own kids that fulfill that goal.

Behaviour in lions has been observed where a female lion would sacrifice one of her own cubs to save those of her aunt, sister or other relative, if those cubs are healthier or if she can save more of them than of her own.

How about all those fags without siblings or aunts or cousins?
Sure, they 'lose' the game of life but they actually enhance the quality of care other people can provide for their kids. At least in theory.
We have a whole bunch of childless, perfectly physically healthy men who will never have children of their own?
Everything they earn will benefit the rest of their group in the long run.
Hell, you can even send those guys to war instead of sending husbands and fathers.
Why turn kids into orphans when you can send their gay uncle instead who will not leave anyone behind should he be killed.
He might even fight harder than the father of two who just wants to go back home.

Sacred Band of Thebes ring any bells?

>>126365340
Do you even know about how faggotry was put on the DSM(mental disorder listing)? the religious faggots intimidated them into it.

>>126365554
Somones being extra niggerly today

>>126364899
Actually, homosexuals should be used to support those societal responsibilities and duties.

Let gay men take dangerous jobs, send gay men to war, instead of taking the risk of some kids losing their father and having to be raised by a single mother.

We have a quite large number of 'spare' adults who should be used that way.

>>126362991
>>126358484
>implying it isn't jews

>>126364743
Homosexuality, unlike gravity, has been subject of many changes in the last decade alone.
Nearly all studies on homosexuality are merely about the societal impacts and cultural relations and all that, not the biological facts.

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>>126365749
>Do you even know about how faggotry was put on the DSM(mental disorder listing)? the religious faggots intimidated them into it
why would faggots make faggotry a mental disorder?

>>126366338
I was being cheeky by just slightly modifying your post.
I was talking about religions (Abrahamic religions, mind you.) pushing for listing homosexuality.

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>>126365749
>We have a whole bunch of childless, perfectly physically healthy men who will never have children of their own?
>Everything they earn will benefit the rest of their group in the long run.
what nonsense. faggotry is all about hedonism, drug taking, hundreds of "partners" a year and getting STDs. they have no link to the past or future. it's all ME ME ME

disgusting

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>>126366184
yes, almost all the homo promotion faggots are jews

and yes, jews are behind virtually all the degeneracy

but I said "one of", not "the"

>>126356464
It's not genetic, retard.

>>126366634
I absolutely agree.
Todays faggotry is all about that shit because that's where it has been pushed in our cultures for many years.

In cultures where homosexuality was not subject to the same stigma and persecution as in european cultures, all these symptoms were on the same level as heterosexuals.

It is not a problem with the attraction itself. The problem is the degenerate and disgusting (((culture))) that built around it for the last decades.

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>>126366253
>Homosexuality, unlike gravity, has been subject of many changes in the last decade alone
it's no longer men sticking their dicks up other mens shit filled assholes?

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>>126366920
citation?

if not genetic, what is the cause?

>>126364538
Sorry, took a while to find the original source.
Read this:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1690701/pdf/11007336.pdf

At no point is there any talk about sexual attraction.
It's about aversion of the smell of predators which is either turned off or overpowered by the rats natural strong exploration tendencies when infected with T.gondii.

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>>126366987
>It is not a problem with the attraction itself. The problem is the degenerate and disgusting (((culture))) that built around it for the last decades
I suppose that might be partially true, but it grew from the root of acceptance of the degeneracy

>>126354562
Because it's gay

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>>126367275
what is your point? the gondii infection causes a change in the rats behaviour. y/n?

>>126367229
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/480117/

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>>126368102
(((theatlantic)))

>>126367229
If it was genetic it would have died out when the first human developed it.
Instead it shows up in every culture, in every single place where humans (and many other animals) have lived all over the entire course of recorded history.

>>126367142
You are being dense deliberately, aren't you?
It's not the sexual act itself that is the degeneracy, it's all the shit, no pun intented, attached it.

>>126367406
It did not.
Countries like Japan, were homosexuality was perfectly accepted until the mid 19th century with the Meiji Restoration, have not had any of the problems that western cultures have.

The degenerate (((LGBT culture))) we have here in the west is the result of decades of sneaking around and hiding in the shadows, so to speak.
When a man would marry, have kids, but sneak out at night for a quickie at the local park because that was the best he could get.
That way this degenerate (((gay culture))) developed that is solely based on sexual attraction.
It never should have come this far in the first place.

>>126367728
It changes a different kind of behaviour.
It has nothing to do with sexual attraction but instead with the flight and run instinct ingrained into a rat when it smells cat.
Like someone suddenly forgetting that a stove is hot or that Toadstool is poisonous.

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Pic related happened in a (((polgbt))) thread 2 days ago. more proof that they are mentally ill ppl and lefties.Thread is here >>126065901
>>126354562
Homosexuality is normalizing mental illness. Isnstead of gettingg treadment they think its okay to be a sexobsessed nutcase.
They only reason homosexuality is not considered a mental illness is because in 1970 faggots protested it so heavily: https://conservativecolloquium.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/homosexual-activists-intimidate-american-psychiatric-association-into-removing-homosexuality-from-list-of-disorders/

>>126368451
The only reason homosexuality was ever considered a mental illness is because abrahamic religions protested it so heavily.

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>>126368230
>If it was genetic it would have died out when the first human developed it.
>Instead it shows up in every culture, in every single place where humans (and many other animals) have lived all over the entire course of recorded history.
not necessarily, genes are complicated things, if it's a recessive trait, it could easily be propogated even though those who get the faggotry don't propogate at all(and it's not like gays are physically incapable of making a baby iwth a woman)

>You are being dense deliberately, aren't you?
It's not the sexual act itself that is the degeneracy, it's all the shit, no pun intented, attached it.
I partially agreed with you, but maintained that faggotry is the root, and all the degeneracy was the fruit

>It never should have come this far in the first place.
I can agree with that. but the problem is the acceptance, and the jewish gay lobby demanding special rights and acceptance

>It has nothing to do with sexual attraction but instead with the flight and run instinct ingrained into a rat when it smells cat
so where did the OP of that post get that idea? is that the study he cites?

>>126354562
Ask your doctor.

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>>126368451
>They only reason homosexuality is not considered a mental illness is because in 1970 faggots protested it so heavily
yep, and they were backed by jewish money and media. it's another attack on our societies

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>>126368776
can you back that up?

I can think of many problems with faggotry that would see it shunned

>>126369121
List any of those problems that are not related to our culture.
List only problems that would actually be problems in any situation.

Remember that STDs are not exclusive to homosexuality and the promiscuity found in western homosexuality is a result of the degenerate (((LGBT culture))) that developed in the shadows because of the social stigma and legal problems.

>>126368776
they have litterally different brains.
"A recent report by LeVay claims that another nucleus, INAH-3, is more than twice as large in heterosexual as in homosexual men, whereas Allen and Gorski found that the anterior commissure was larger in homosexual men than in heterosexual men or women."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7560933

How about you come up with an argument???

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>>126369488
>Remember that STDs are not exclusive to homosexuality and the promiscuity found in western homosexuality is a result of the degenerate (((LGBT culture))) that developed in the shadows because of the social stigma and legal problems.
no, the problems you are talking about are only a problem because of jew lead acceptance of faggotry

please prove your point that the stigma is what caused the problems, and not the faggotry itself. if you believe faggotry is naturally good absent stigma, why would fags not be promiscuous?

why would they not be hedonistic?

why would diseases not spread at a much higher rate if they are promiscuos?

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>>126369747
>another nucleus, INAH-3
what does this mean? what'sa nucleus?

>>126369747
Is ADD a mental disorder? Is Schizophrenia? Yes, they are both disorders. As scientifically proven by the fact that their brains are different than normal people's. It's like claiming that cancer is not a disease, because cancer cells are different than non cancerous cells..

>>126368901
>so where did the OP of that post get that idea? is that the study he cites?
OP apparently used an article in Berkeley News as the source for that particular bit:
http://news.berkeley.edu/2013/09/18/toxoplasma-infection-permanently-shifts-balance-in-cat-and-mouse-game/
There is not talk of any kind of sexual attraction as well and the research done by that particular student is very likely based on the study I provided.

>but the problem is the acceptance, and the jewish gay lobby demanding special rights and acceptance
This is where we can absolutely agree.
The agenda pushed by the degenerate (((LGBT))) lobby is disgusting and very much the reason for the degeneracy in western homosexuality obvserved today.
If it had just quitely gone into the night without a big fuss, nobody would give a shit about all this anymore.

>>126369747
That does not prove a genetic difference unless these differences exist from the moment of conception.
It's more likely that these changes are the result of hormonal influences (Probably during puberty, but I'm reaching the end of my layman's knowledge here.) not hardcoded genetics.

If it can be proven that this does indeed exist from birth, I'll be surprised but hey, at least then following generations can avoid being gay.

>>126369488
its like you didn't even read the information, that ppl have posted here.
>List any of those problems that are not related to our culture.
>List only problems that would actually be problems in any situation.
ok. homosexuals have a high rate of pedophilia.
>>126369993
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nucleus_(neuroanatomy)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_LeVay#INAH3_research
second link is they wiki of the guy who did the research, that i linked above.

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>>126370502
>This is where we can absolutely agree.
so what are you disagreeing with again?

>>126370502
>It's more likely that these changes are the result of hormonal influences
do genes not play a role in hormone levels?

>>126370502
i never claimed it is genetic, but yes, it might be.
the best course of action, to stop homosexuality is to simply do manly stuff, like camping, chopping wood, playing sports, with your sons. that way, they can not be feminized as easily, by the (((government))).

>>126369818
>no, the problems you are talking about are only a problem because of jew lead acceptance of faggotry
Jew lead acceptance == (((LGBT culture)))
We are talking about the same thing in that regard.

> faggotry is naturally good absent stigma
It is not naturally good. It is simply not naturally harmful. Homosexuality only has downsides for the individuals 'afflicted' with it when you disregard any cultural reactions.

>why would fags not be promiscuous?
Why aren't hetero men no longer promiscuous? There are many cultures where it is normal for men to engage with multiple women.

Male sexuality is the reason for that promiscuity more than anything.

If there was no 'dating-game' attached to getting sex with a women, if it was just as easy as walking up to one, complimenting their looks and sucking them off in a hotel room 5 minutes later, wouldn't heterosexual men engage in just as much casual sex?

Men like sex. Women are not as sexual and the social stigma of being a slut prevents them from sleeping around in most cases.
Such a stigma against sleeping around is only just developing among gay guys in the western world because until recently, nobody cared and it was the only way to do it because in many western countries it was illegal to engage in homo-stuff until way into the 90s.
You wouldn't want to hide your relationship with a partner if it can land you in jail. But sleeping with some guy is fast and will likely not be discovered if you are discreet.

I propose the following:
Either find a nice and easy way to get rid of homosexuality entirely BEFORE the 'afflicted' ones ever realise it. Which means simply get rid of it before birth.
OR instill the same values of monogamy in homosexuals that exist in heterosexual relationships.

>>126370890
You see a difference between the jews pushing for acceptance and the degenerate (((LGBT culture))). I propose that it is one and the same. Get rid of degenerate (((LGBT culture))) and the problem is solved.

>>126371003
>simply do manly stuff
The Sacred Band of Thebes did arguably the most "manly" thing (i.e. war) and they were a bunch of faggots.Dunno were i'm getting with this though desu.

>>126371003
Some of the manliest guys in history were a bunch of dicksuckers and I'm pretty sure they went camping, chopped wood, played sports and spent time with their fathers.

Sparta, Feudal Japan, the Sacred Band of Thebes.
There are quite a few examples.

BUT your idea is still perfectly valid because while they will still want to suck dick, they will not be raging fags who wear fetish gear in public and carry purses everywhere.
Feminising men, no matter whether they are homosexual or hetero, is shit and needs to stop.
We can agree on that, yes?

>>126370572
> homosexuals have a high rate of pedophilia.
I'd argue that homosexuals are generaly just as attracted to young people as heterosexuals, they just act on those urges instead of doing the right thing and ignoring them because the social stigma of homosexuality is already there so what's another one to add to that?

It's degenerate and it needs to stop.

On the other hand, our lovely arab friends prove that, if that stigma against pedophilia doesn't exist and is instead preached as a cool, heterosexuals will fuck little girls just as much as homos fuck little boys.

>>126368215
Look, attack the source all you want but it's the most likely explanation.

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>>126370572
thanks, that's really interesting

>>126371462
They didn't just do war, they were really really fucking good at it too.
It took Philip of Macedon and Alexander the Great (Not The Great yet at that point.) to beat them and even then they were respected immensely by both Philip and Alexander, arguably two of the mightiest military leaders to ever exist.

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>>126371462
>>126371680
im talking about nowadays, where masculinity is seen as evil. if you spend time with your kids and show them how to be an upright man, the people who corrupt culture can not get to them, as easily.
>Feminising men, no matter whether they are homosexual or hetero, is shit and needs to stop.
>We can agree on that, yes?
yes, but what does "feminising men" mean. do you think when the romans fucked boys, that the boys where not feminized by the act, of getting fucked. homosexuality IS feminization men.
>>126371680
>homosexuals are generaly just as attracted to young people as heterosexuals
citation needed
>social stigma of homosexuality
nope, alot of them where simply mentally "broken" bc of rape/sexual abuse in general.
pic related.

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>>126371296
>We are talking about the same thing in that regard.
ok

>It is not naturally good. It is simply not naturally harmful.
I have to disagree here. poopchutes are not enhanced by penal penetration, and dicks are not enhanced by being covered in shit. not to mention all the other filthy shit they get up to, gargling ahit and cum from eachothers assholes etc

> if it was just as easy as walking up to one, complimenting their looks and sucking them off in a hotel room 5 minutes later, wouldn't heterosexual men engage in just as much casual sex?
depends what they were looking for, why not just have a wank? oh right, because making babies with a loyal, compatible, not batshitcrazy woman is important

you seem to think that everyone is a hedonist at heart, and not capable of looking at long term consequences

>Either find a nice and easy way to get rid of homosexuality entirely BEFORE the 'afflicted' ones ever realise it. Which means simply get rid of it before birth.
OR instill the same values of monogamy in homosexuals that exist in heterosexual relationships.
I can think of a third option

>You see a difference between the jews pushing for acceptance and the degenerate (((LGBT culture))). I propose that it is one and the same. Get rid of degenerate (((LGBT culture))) and the problem is solved.
why not get rid of both?

>>126369747
That is rather interesting. I just wish I had access to the complete paper.
Anyway.
It seems to me that this paper actually disproved a difference in homo- and heterosexual brains.

> No difference in SDN cell number was observed between homosexual and heterosexual men. This finding refutes Dörner's hypothesis that homosexual males have a "female" hypothalamus called the suprachiastmatic nucleus (SCN) contains twice as many cells as the SCN of a heterosexual group.

The latter part seems to be a not yet proven theory.
The wording implies as much
>A recent report CLAIMS
as does the last sentence
>Preliminary research on male-to-female transsexuals is also discussed. The functional implications of these findings in determining adult sexual orientation are as yet from clear.

Don't take that as disagreement from me. I'd just like for these things to be absolutely proven before we start speculating on how to treat it.

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>>126371784
I didn't read it, care to precis it for me?

>>126371680
>I'd argue that homosexuals are generaly just as attracted to young people as heterosexuals, they just act on those urges instead of doing the right thing and ignoring them because the social stigma of homosexuality is already there so what's another one to add to that?
argue it if you like, but what do you base it on?

>>126372771
>that the boys where not feminized by the act, of getting fucked.
Don't mean to be a smartass but, is only the penetration the problem? Would frotting be acceptable then?

>>126372851
>It seems to me that this paper actually disproved a difference in homo- and heterosexual brains
no, it disproved that homosexual males have a "female" hypothalamus.
it does not refute gay male/straight male brain difference.

>>126373295
you asshole made me google frotting.
but to answer your question, there will always be a dominant part and a submissive part in the "act."
dominant = "male" role
submissive = "female" role

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>>126373295
>Don't mean to be a smartass
oh yeah? OH YEAH??

pay your fucking denbts, faglord

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Gays can't be bad because then why are they so cute!!! And they made it anime

>>126373633
>100 billion
You shouldn't be talking either desu.

>>126373555
>you asshole made me google frotting.
Ahahaha, sorry about that. I never got that dichotomy from frotting, but i guess i'm a weird one since i also dislike anal in general.

>>126373752
>weeb
>fag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcqHCwjd1iM

>>126354562
being gay isn't something you're born as or with, it's something you grow into. all humans are asexual at birth. as you grow and learn you become who you are. if you grow up around gay men, you're probably gonna be gay. you grow up around nazis, you're most likely a nazi. not always, but it's usually what happens. that's really it. birth isn't a decider, your surrounding environment is. with that being said, it's unnatural and gay culture should be shunned. being gay is fine, but it shouldn't be totally accepted.

>>126372808
>I have to disagree here. poopchutes are not enhanced by penal penetration, and dicks are not enhanced by being covered in shit. not to mention all the other filthy shit they get up to, gargling ahit and cum from eachothers assholes etc
These are all things that heterosexuals engage in as well.
Just because you don't, doesn't mean that your nice neighbour doesn't fuck his wife in the ass and licks his cum out afterwards.
Not to mention that the prostata is located in a position that can be stimulated from the ass, making buttsex pleasurable for some men.

>you seem to think that everyone is a hedonist at heart, and not capable of looking at long term consequences
You seem to think the same way. Not every homosexual is a hedonist. The fags you see in (((pride parades))) and filthy hook-up bars are as disgusting to me as they are to you.
Am I the exception or the norm in that regard for homosexual men? I don't know, it's hard to do research on that because of all the shitflinging and virtue signalling in science nowadays.

>why not get rid of both?
Because they are the same thing. There is no "both".

>>126372771
>homosexuality IS feminization men.
That is a matter of perspective.

>>social stigma of homosexuality
>nope
Please don't misquote. I distinctly said that the existence of the homosexual stigma makes it easier to just ignore the additional pedophilia stigma. Kind of like stealing a car and then running someone over with it afterwards because what's one more crime?

>>126372934
There aren't any studies, sadly, but the arabic world proves that heterosexual pedophilia is just as rampant once it is not illegal.

>>126373297
It does do exactly that.
>> No difference in SDN cell number was observed between homosexual and heterosexual men.
Homo- and Heterosexual brains are not different in that regard.
It is not yet proven whether they are different in some other way. We have to wait and see.

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>>126373555
>you asshole made me google frotting.
kekkked and chekkked

>>126373912
>You shouldn't be talking either desu.
the 2nd largest net contributer? out of the 4 net contributers to the EU? and they want even more now we're leaving, kek. what a bunch of greedy evil jews

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>>126374002
so how do you explain bi's?

>>126374002
>with that being said, it's unnatural and gay culture should be shunned.
I absolutely agree with you on this part:
>gay culture should be shunned.
Because it is just rampant degeneracy.

But you should distinguish between 'unnatural' and 'not normal'.
Homosexuality is certainly not normal, but it is natural, since it has been proven to exist in many different species and has existed since before recorded history.

>>126374260
>the 2nd largest net contributer? out of the 4 net contributers to the EU? and they want even more now we're leaving, kek. what a bunch of greedy evil jews
I think they upped it to 150billion.By the time you leave they'll want 200 billion. You really have to pay those 300 billion though.

>>126374260
>>126374322
>>126373633
>>126372868
Just wanna say that I appreciate that dump of Islam stuff.
Some pretty good ones in there, limey!

>>126374115
>I distinctly said that the existence of the homosexual stigma makes it easier to just ignore the additional pedophilia stigma. Kind of like stealing a car and then running someone over with it afterwards because what's one more crime?
first off, stealing a car is already a crime. homosexuality is no longer a crime, it is not even stigmatized as much.
btw. you still should come up with a source for your claim, that straight men want to fuck/rape children, as bad as gays do.

>>126374322
what do you mean? they just have no preference. they don't see any reason to be restricted by any gender. but it seems common for bi women to be more straight and are just doing it for all the wrong reasons. like, sexual frustration and needing release, or to tease guys. most bi guys tend to be more gay and are just more or less afraid. but again, it's all environmental. they probably just grew up in a house that didn't dedicate that one gender should be held above the other in terms of how to interact with them sexually.

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>>126374115
>Because they are the same thing. There is no "both".
homos and jews

>Am I the exception or the norm in that regard for homosexual men?
you may very well be an outlier

>These are all things that heterosexuals engage in as well
>Just because you don't, doesn't mean that your nice neighbour doesn't fuck his wife in the ass and licks his cum out afterwards.
stop projecting, you have no evidence to back that up

>the arabic world proves
does it? what % fags are there there? do we know?

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>>126374458
kek

you'll get nothing, AND LIKE IT!

>>126374372
>it has been proven to exist in many different species and has existed since before recorded history.
no, no, no, no, no. it's an animal, animals have been proven to be complete retards who only think on instinct. when my dog humps it's pillow, does it now have an attraction towards pillows? untill animals start speaking to us, homosexuality is still unnatural. think about what is natural. breeding. it's litterally the reason everything exist and keeps going. for the purpose of breeding. you can't do that with the same sex. you go against nature by indulging in these acts. it's unnatural.

>>126374322
They can't fight back because they are too peaceful, duh.

>>126374646
>does it? what % fags are there there? do we know?
Average number of homos per country/number of rooftops?

>>126374546
Fine.
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Pedophilia
http://www.wnd.com/2012/12/army-acknowledges-pedophilia-part-of-islam/
http://shoebat.com/2014/03/13/muslims-demand-pedophilia-legalized-2/

Look at the arabic countries.
They don't have the laws and stigma against pedophilia, quite the opposite, and it's normal there.
Look at all the kids raped in europe by peaceful underaged future-phd muslim migrants, many of them girls.
What about Rotherdam where little girls were raped by muslim gangs over decades?

>>126374916
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi
Does this count any?I'm half asleep here so don't mind me if i post something off.

>>126354562
Take this shit to/bant/. This is not related to politics or current news.

>>126374646
>stop projecting, you have no evidence to back that up
Funny. Neither do you. So I guess we can't resolve this without pulling up porn sites and guess what:
Straight porn sites are just as degenerate as gay ones. You can look for yourself if you don't think that.

>>the arabic world proves
>does it? what % fags are there there? do we know?
No, we don't. But we do know that pedophilia is very widespread in these lands. Heterosexual pedophilia. See >>126374916

>you may very well be an outlier
I hope not. I want a nice guy to settle down with and do my part to stop the fall of the west to the brown horde even if I probably will not get any nice white kids of my own.

>homos and jews
Fags and jews.
ftfy.
Kill those and leave the regular homo in peace, all that degeneracy will vanish.

>>126374856
Breeding isn't the only way to make sure that your genes continue.
But yes, it is a large part.
That does not mean that homosexuality is without reason or unnatural.

A homosexual male is still a physically healthy man. He can contribute to society in all the same ways except that he won't have kids of his own unless he forces himself to do that.
So you basically have a spare adult running around who will not leave any orphans behind when he dies.
Sounds like a pretty good way to enhance brood care.
And since they are not impotent, they can still get kids if needed.

In theory it's a very good way to slow down the increase in population, enhance the quality of care new children receive and still have a few fertile adults ready if they are needed.

>>126375165
Stuff like that too, yes.

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bump with stats.
ps. i think study in pic related also considered ppl who have lived only one year or more, with a gay parent as (gay father or lesbian mother)
>>126374916
in the days of mohammed (even sometimes amongs european royalty) it was considered normal to marry young girls. not proving specific attraction towards minors (pedophilia), but rather proving a perverted culture, that endorses marring of daughters VERY young.
conclusion: islam normalizes pedophilia. that does not imply, that straight men want to fuck 8 year olds, at the rate of homos.

>>126375686
>>stop projecting, you have no evidence to back that up
>Funny. Neither do you.
YOU make the claim. YOU have to back it up.
that islam makes people do degenerate things was clear before this conversation started. but what does it say about the christian world?

>>126375686
>>126375686
you're an idiot. he may be natural in the sense that he's human and has a working penis and can reproduce, but thats not what im talking about. he's unnatural for sticking his dick in another mans ass. dicks don't go there, that's not their purpose. it's an unnatural act that causes more harm than good. like I said before, I don't have a problem with gays. it's just the unnatural things they do is something that should be shunned

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>>126374580
yeah, this answer is bullshit, and doesn't fit withthe claims you made about fags

>>126375704
>Those lesbo stats
Not surprised desu.

>>126375924
By that logic, literally any act that is not benis in vagina is unnatural.

Did you ever get a blowjob from your wife/girlfriend/hooker? Unnatural.
Ever wanked? Unnatural.

Sexual contact of any sort (Be it oral, vaginal, anal or just by hand) has been long proven to be good for body and mind (As long as you avoid any STDs of course.)

>>126375888
>YOU make the claim. YOU have to back it up.
The point was that those sex acts that disgust him so much:
>poopchutes are not enhanced by penal penetration, and dicks are not enhanced by being covered in shit. not to mention all the other filthy shit they get up to, gargling ahit and cum from eachothers assholes etc
Are also done by heterosexuals.
Anal sex is not exclusive to heterosexuals neither is eating shit and it's really disgusting.

>>126376169
I don't see the contradiction. explain what you don't understand

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>>126374856
well said

>>126374861
aah, they just support death for apostasy, being raped, etc etc

>>126376416
they are unnatural acts dumbass. just because it's pleasurable doesn't mean it's natural. you don't call anal sex, sex. it's called anal sex because it involves your ass, and a sex. your ass is not a sex organ, it does not go with the sex organs. it's just an alternative way to get off. same with hands.

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>>126354562
regular reminder that both the creators of the matrix turned out to be trans women
taking the red pill means realizing you were born in the body of the wrong gender.

>>126375704
I never wanted to imply that homosexuals should raise children.
The best way to raise children is in an intact biological family with mother and father.

Interesting is that apparently gay fathers aren't that bad compared to other groups aside from IBF.

You should also not forget that the people interviewed for that survey likely grew up in a time where having gay parents was pretty damn terrible.
I expect some numbers, like STI, affairs or suicide stuff will go down in current and coming generations due to less pressure and bullying for having gay parents.

>>126376663
So do you agree that any act that is not benis in vagina is classified as unnatural, no matter who is involved?

>>126376752
>I expect some numbers, like STI, affairs or suicide stuff will go down in current and coming generations due to less pressure and bullying for having gay parents.
lol, like when gays didn't get bullied (as much) anymore, and they still raped children WAY more then straight ppl?

>>126376839
it is unnatural. but, im the kind of person who thinks casual sex should be banned. obviously you can't just ban that. it wouldn't work, but that's just where I stand on the whole thing. so sex that isn't even really sex is something I just don't agree with. but that's just my opinion. but people being influenced into being gay or lesbian is something I believe to be fact.

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Conclusion of this thread: Gays rape babies because they where bullied.

>>126377069
sounds like a pretty unhealthy realtionship with sex, friend

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>>126374916
>Look at the arabic countries.
that proves arabics are pedos, not everyone

do keep up

>>126375686
>Funny. Neither do you
yet you are the one making the claim

>Straight porn sites are just as degenerate as gay ones
I wouldn't know, but both are as jewish

>But we do know that pedophilia is very widespread in these lands
yeah, mudslimes are fucking disgusting, well done

>Kill those and leave the regular homo in peace, all that degeneracy will vanish.
we'll see

>Breeding isn't the only way to make sure that your genes continue.
kek, what?

>A homosexual male is still a physically healthy man
I disagree

>>126377220
>I wouldn't know, but both are as jewish
Well, gay porn recently features more uncut dicks, so y-yay?

>>126377165
sex has no purpose other than procreation. abusing it for pleasure has only really lead to more wrong than right. pedophiles, anal sex, toys, mutliation, unwanted pregnancies, diseases being spread more rapidly. it's wrong. but humans care too much about pleasure, rather than progress. good thing we'll all die eventually

>>126360183
This and only this. There are a few of us that have escaped the traps made for us.

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>>126375704
I don't understand you're graph, what is it saying?

>>126377502
what is the value of live without plesure
what is progress
do you really think your species/race/culture/country/whateveryouareinto is such a great thing that it is our sole duty to keep it alive

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>>126376485
your claim was that gays are gays because of being around gays

what was the original gay man? the original bi man?

>>126376416
>By that logic, literally any act that is not benis in vagina is unnatural.
like eating cereal for breakfast?

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>>126376839
sure, tilling fields and milking fields are unnatural

>>126377069
Well, okay, I get where you're coming from then.
And it's good that you are not a hypocrite in that regard, kudos, anon.

You can certainly be coerced into homosexual acts, but actually developing feelings for someone of the same sex is probably very unlikely to be influenced by someone else.
But well, not enough research to really discuss that with any satisfying result yet.

>>126377061
Let's be fair and wait for the numbers on the generation that grew up recently, since they are the first ones in centuries who will likely not be punched bloody in school for being gay.

>>126377220
>that proves arabics are pedos, not everyone
That's my point:
Arabics are openly pedophilic because their culture doesn't have a stigma against that.
(((LGBT culture))) weakened the pedo stigma among those who were a part of it immensely because it was all about sex and probably also because (((whoever))) is behind it wanted Cheese Pizza.
If homosexuals had not been forced into this degenerate (((LGBT culture))) during the latter half of the last century, pedophile numbers would be far lower among homosexuals because the same stigma would apply to them.

They would still be slightly higher because it is obviously much easier to get sexual contact with kids of your own sex since you can enter the same bathrooms, changing rooms and so on.
Which is absolute shit, mind you.

>>A homosexual male is still a physically healthy man
>I disagree
I wrote physically, not psychologically. Hell, many gay men care more for their body than straight men do.

>>Breeding isn't the only way to make sure that your genes continue.
>kek, what?
Keep reading.

>>Funny. Neither do you
>yet you are the one making the claim

See:
>>126376416
>The point was that those sex acts that disgust him so much:
>[...]
>Are also done by heterosexuals.
>Anal sex is not exclusive to heterosexuals neither is eating shit and it's really disgusting.

>>126377562
homos shouldn't be parents. thats what it boils down to.

>>126377870
yes, I was being more general about it. but a gay doesn't have to be around gays, you just have to be influenced by gay culture. seeing it on tv, reading about it, experimenting with another boy who tells you things he knows that you don't. it's all about whats around you. bi people are just more curious, more open, but not really honest. they are no different, they just had more exposure to the fruits of both sexes

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>>126377456
>Well, gay porn recently features more uncut dicks
I can netiher confirm or deny your degenerate information

>>126377562
Short version:
Biological families with alive mother and father living together are best for children.

Having a gay father is surprisingly (Or not really.) less damaging than having a lesbian mother.

>>126378063
>punched bloody in school for being gay
this happens all the time, sure. kids out themselves in middleschool and then get their skull cracked. im not making this up, i swear.

>>126378030
>>126377870
I obviously forgot to write
>sexual act
It's 3am, cut me some slack.

>>126378361
There is a reason why, until recently, kids did not tell anyone that they are gay.
Consequences can still range from nobody giving a shit to getting kicked out or being beaten.
If you were ever a kid in school you should know that anything that is slightly different is enough reason for kids to make another kids life hell.

It's not nice to hear faggot, cocksucker and all that as the top insults in school when you are gay.
And it's pretty shit to not be able to hug your boyfriend in public like all the others do with their girlfriends just because you know you'd get shit for it.
Worst case one of your parents find out and you never get to see each other again.

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>>126378063
>Arabics are openly pedophilic because their culture doesn't have a stigma against that.
or because they are evil and degenerate faggots

>If homosexuals had not been forced into this degenerate (((LGBT culture))) during the latter half of the last century, pedophile numbers would be far lower among homosexuals because the same stigma would apply to them.
can you back that up? how could you tell?

>many gay men care more for their body than straight men do
many, not most, not all

>Keep reading.
reading what?

>>126378105
ah ok, or allowed to be loose in the population

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>>126378109
so how did the first gay, or gay culture arise?

>>126378924
you should probably ask yourself that. I wasn't there, I have ideas. but like myself, you should just try to formulate what makes sense to you about what happened. we'll never truly know, so you might as well come up with something that appeases you

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>>126378185
ah ok, clearly not exculsively gay though, so bi would be the correct term, maybe

>>126378413
>It's 3am, cut me some slack.
hmm, and you are a faggot. I'll consider it

>>126378720
yeah, because they know it is wrong

>>126378772
>or because they are evil and degenerate faggots
That too, obviously.

>can you back that up? how could you tell?
It is far easier to break one taboo when you have already broken another.
If you were already a gay guy in the seventies, it was far less of a jump to start diddling kids as well.
I truly hope that the numbers will and already have gone down because it's less of a taboo to like dick now.
I mostly just hope that it will be less in the future. Of course it will never go down as low as heterosexual pedophilia but I already explained that.

>many, not most, not all
Like I said: Many.

>reading what?
I took the liberty to just copy-paste what you obviously skipped. Remember that it is all just in theory:

Breeding isn't the only way to make sure that your genes continue.
But yes, it is a large part.
That does not mean that homosexuality is without reason or unnatural.

A homosexual male is still a physically healthy man. He can contribute to society in all the same ways except that he won't have kids of his own unless he forces himself to do that.
So you basically have a spare adult running around who will not leave any orphans behind when he dies.
Sounds like a pretty good way to enhance brood care.
And since they are not impotent, they can still get kids if needed.

In theory it's a very good way to slow down the increase in population, enhance the quality of care new children receive and still have a few fertile adults ready if they are needed.

>>126379352
>clearly not exculsively gay though
Many gay men 'force' themselves to create a family even though they have no attraction to their wives. Not that many today anymore but it was pretty normal during the mid-20th century.

Just because you are not attracted doesn't mean that you can't get it up for sex. You just won't really enjoy it.
So they fuck their wives, get kids and years later they either kill themselves or break down and confess that they really don't like their life and wive that way.

>hmm, and you are a faggot. I'll consider it
Thanks, limey.

>yeah, because they know it is wrong
No. Because they know that they will get a shitty reaction.
They don't hide because of some knowledge that it might be wrong but because of the reaction they would get.
Self-preservation.

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>>126366096
>ID:JEb
Jeb confirms true

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>>126354562
Join the OFFICIAL /polgb/ Discord;

https://discord.gg/GmR6Q

>>126379999

>>126379957
>Having Discord
Fucking degenerates.

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>>126379138
hey me, why is it?

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>>126379367
>it was far less of a jump to start diddling kids as well
start, as if homos and pedos aren't masively intertwined throughout history

>he won't have kids of his own
>Breeding isn't the only way to make sure that your genes continue
derp

>>126380693
How about religion and child sacrifice? Every culture has done it but you're not excoriating straights for their "proclivities"

>>126380693
Your brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts, cousins all share your genes.
So if they have kids your genes will be passed on, even if just to a lesser degree.

There was some research that suggested that the more sons a women has the more likely is it that one of them is gay. If that is valid it would support the idea that homosexuals are meant as a kind of support. Redundant adults, if you will.

>>126354562
being squirrely with your ass isn't a big deal. it's weird, but so is a lot of other shit.

>pursuing a lifestyle that will prevent you from passing your genes to future generations when you otherwise probably would be a healthy straight dude is degenerate as fuck.

>>126381015
Thoughts on furries?

>>126381110
I don't care.

My position on anything related to sex and also religion:

I don't care what you do as long as it doesn't affect me, happens between two consenting adults, in private and does not involve children.

>>126381404
>it doesn't affect me, happens between two consenting adults, in private and does not involve children
according to this all kinds of necrophilia are perfectly fine

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>>126379765
>Many gay men 'force' themselves to create a family even though they have no attraction to their wives
technically they aren't gay then

>They don't hide because of some knowledge that it might be wrong but because of the reaction they would get
it IS wrong though, a mental illness

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>>126380811
>Every culture has done it
have they? please prove you're claim

>>126381015
>Your brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts, cousins all share your genes
no they don't, I am unique

> the more sons a women has the more likely is it that one of them is gay. If that is valid it would support the idea that homosexuals are meant as a kind of support
if the chance is x, then having more sons increases the probability?

no shit sherlock

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>>126381404
>I don't care what you do as long as it doesn't affect me
so gays ARE narcissits

>>126365394
>comparing 2 consenting men with sand niggers raping children
k

>>126381451
Shit! That is pretty evil and filthy.

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>>126354562

It is a literal mind virus that increases promiscuity and degeneracy to ultimate levels, thus spreading the virus.

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>>126381897
>technically they aren't gay then
They are still gay.
If we go down this rabbit hole we will have to seperate sexual acts from sexual attraction.

Homosexuality is the sole attraction to members of your own sex.
If you stimulate your dick it can still get hard for women, that doesn't change that a homosexual man is not attracted to them.
Of course then we can also go a step further and introduce the Kinsey Scale which suggests that nearly noone is 100% homo- or heterosexual to begin with.
>pic related
And while I personally score a pefect 6 on said scale, most men who say they are homosexual are a 5.

>>126382119
>if the chance is x, then having more sons increases the probability?
Not just that.
It's not just that the chance is 0.3% and having a second son just adds another 0.3%.

It is possible that the first son has a 0.3% chance of being homo, the next one a 0.35% chance, the third 0.4% and so on.
Of course always differing from case to case, but statistically speaking.

>no they don't, I am unique
Good for you. You're wrong. There are up to 7 people on this planet alive right know who look nearly or perfectly identical to you without being related to you.
The human genome has, in theory, only enough variety for something around 3billion different combinations.
So, statistically speaking, there is one person alive who is a perfect 1to1 copy of you, down to the dna.

>>126382199
You mean egoistic and no, this isn't a case of egoism, this a case of not feeling the need to be involved in everything anyone ever does.

>>126382680
>Citation needed.

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>>126382465
you can't consent if you are mentally ill