automation

>>126292657
All the masons still have to be there in co-op with the bot. This is actually cool as fuck.

But this is not our time's crisis. Full Automation is 100 years down the road. We have very real and in our face problems.

>>126292657

will the jews give us basic income when everything is automated in the future?

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>be electrical engineer
>be guy designing the robots
>will probably be replaced by robots one day

>>126293460
pottery

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>be electrician
>will never get replaced by robots
>mfw

>>126292657
>They don't have to have the physical demand on their body that they might previously
Then what the hell is the point? Why would you go into bricklaying if you didn't want to do a physically demanding job? All these robots are turning American men into pansies. This is just another step in the degradation of American culture.

>>126293063
if full automation started on food industry and everyone is ensured free foods,
then everyone is ensured a place to stay in,
will there be a problem with full automation?

>>126293724
>>will never get replaced by robots

why not?

>>126292657
oi oi oi hold the fuck on

not even 1 minute in and hes already mentioned how automation will help old masons keep their job because they wont have to work anymore and how young masons will be attracted to the industry with the new technology. He also mentions how this will increase jobs while decreasing workload.

EVERYTHING FUCKING CONTRADICTS. Sure it sounds great and looks great but its a bag of lies. Their will be less jobs as their will be a less need for manual labor. Their will be a decline in the younger market becoming masons as older boomers try to stay on longer to milk their pension and retirement plans.

Positives if we as a country can survive 15-25 more years without destroying ourselves to immigration we will not need the shitskins. This works out great for the shitskins too as we can sell this technology to them and they can improve their lives. SO DONT FUCK THIS UP CUNTS STOP CROSSING THE BORDER AND STAY THE FUCK IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY.

>>126293742
I really don't care about automation. I'm an innawoods redneck with pigs and chickens and guns.

>>126293742
Yes we run out of food or stop having babies

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>tfw you work on the robots' side, speeding this process up

should have gotten your free master's degree idiots

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>>126292657
>implying that wouldn't be a good thing
Man if we'd just kept the borders shut we'd have less people now to be unemployed and drain from OUR national production. Really makes me think.

>>126293436
this is the right question

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le-9uWKe2dk

>>126294011
He lives in Lithuania.

>>126292657
I see many humans on this video.

The machine need operators, like every machine.

Look at the background next time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCgnWqoP4MM

>won't be replaced by robots doing structural steel
>replaced by Mexicans doing reinforces concrete

>>126292657
and whos going to build the entire factory on your property so the robots can build a wall in place?

trades will eventually be replaced, but not till after doctors, engineers, lawyers, etc.

>>126294755
>many humans
for every robot X numbers of workers lost their job. It doesn't matter whenever there is still an operator. what's so difficult to understand here?

>>126294515
nice, what field? I'm planning to do a startup producing robots for manufacturing.

>>126292657
wtf those bricks are sideways

that robot is doing a shitty job

>>126294011
He's 97 years old

>mfw liberals won't be able to use the "we need immigrants to do jobs that we don't want to do" argument when low wage jobs are completely automated
>liberals are also terrified of (((AI))) and think terminators are going to destroy humanity

Fucking feels so good man

>>126292657
My trade literally cant be replaced and what makes it even more hilarious is that I work in manufacturing.

>>126292657
Automation IS the future.

Only old people will deny it. Because you can't capitalize off a program that is already automated to do a designated task at a certain proficiency.

At that point basic income will be necessary. It is inevitable.

>>126295139
Other robots? Do you understand how technology advances?

>the robot only knows brick walls
>still need ppl to make yur robot factory

Amerifat.

>>126295405
Why does there need to be an operator?

Brick layers are the most miserable pieces of shit on the earth. Fuck them

>>126292657
This is kinda neat but... who still makes small bricks buildings?
also I guarantee you that Europe will make this illegal so they can pretend we need to import more African slaves.

>>126295913
When the robots revolt

>>126293063
>Full Automation is 100 years down the road.
>implying it will be implemented before all books are burnt except the one
look at the bright side: at least we're gonna have jobs to earn the money we need to pay jizyia

>>126293742
>if full automation started on food industry >everyone is ensured free foods

Running a fully automated factory still costs money
- price for new automation linesand robots
- maintenance
- power&utilities
- raw material
- packaging
- logistics

Why would it result in free food? All it does it drastically reduce labour cost imo

>>126295913
robots malfunction. retards trying to fuck up the job for fun. Insurance needs a human to sue if something goes wrong after the building is done.
Also in europe romani mafia copper thieves.

>>126294011
Robots are electrical.

>>126296095
Bricks are a dead meme anyway. Injection-molded prefabs are the future. No reason to make a building out of 10000 bricks when 10 modular sections would do the same. Plus brick is a shitty material compared to modern reinforced plastics.

>>126294011
Lotta the things we do are totally ad lib. Why pay a CAD jockey to figure out where to run conduit and where to secure it, what parts to secure them with, etc when you can do that on site when you're building it?

That and being an electrician isn't very repetitive. You'd need to design a swiss army knife of a machine to do our job, and it needs to be super small and super light because of how much setup time there would be compared to the work time. See OP, only brickies sit in one spot all day. Size is a MASSIVE cost factor to automation, and Jumbo Sparkybot 9000 would be a logistical nightmare to get around a jobsite. Need to go from the 88th to the 89th floor? Uh oh, call a crane.

Basically you'd need to be able to build an android dirt cheap to undercut the cost of an electrician

>>126295890
The robot you have demonstrated is incapable of independant operation

Trades will not be replaced untill we have bipedal human-shaped robots capable of complex tasks within human-centric enviornments.

>>126294095
Thing is, it's fucking expensive to do brickwork now.

This will allow many more people to afford to have brickwork done, therefore demand will increase. Someone still has to load the machines, manage their functioning, and stop them when something goes wrong,

And it's the sort of labor that can be handled by any competent monkey, maybe even you.

>>126293742
>free food
>he think robots are free
>he think land ownership is free
>he fucking believe hand on the bible that mosanto gives out seeds and chemicals for free
come on kid.

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What could possibly go wrong?

>>126294011
Because robots are basically electricians' bitches, or do you think they self-maintenance?

>>126296190
>get cheaper every year, once the that process is automated
>maintenance robots
>coal mined by robots, solar panels made by robots
>iron mined by robots
>packed by robots
>shipping in robotic vehicles

It reduces the cost of labor throughout the whole supply chain

>>126296364
No reason not to build a building out of 10000 bricks if a robot does all the work

>>126296190

Don't use logic, it's a dangerous thing!

>>126293460
Repair robots.
When we reach a point where robots can repair one and other work is no longer needed in human society and as such we can do away completely with currency.

The folly of communism is not that it won't work in life, it is that communism cannot work outside of a utopia. It's retirement for society.

>>126296364
>building in plastics
>using flammable components for the main structure of a building
>oil reserves surviving the raise of power of India + China

>>126293436
No. Jews are purposefully killing off the white working class by depressing wages and importing violent migrants with no employable skills.

There will be be no basic income.

one of the worst examples of automation, it isn't even fast

>>126296482
he was only using short term partial logic

>>126293551
Need sauce on what this 'pottery' term means also would like sauce on what 'kino' means?

Thanks

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Cool, another thread where people deny automation is going to take their job because only 90% of the work is going to be gone...

b-b-b-b-but what about the 10% that needs a human....

>>126296468
>No reason not to build a building out of 10000 bricks if a robot does all the work
Yeah, how about complexity? Just because you can use a gorrillion components to make something doesn't mean you should. If you're going to fabricate in place, it's better to use 3d printing/AM than bricks and mortar.
>>126296608
>building in plastics
>using flammable components for the main structure of a building
Yeah, good luck setting polycarbonate or Ultem on fire. Modern plastics are more than just shitty Chinese styrene.

>>126295600
>>mfw liberals won't be able to use the "we need immigrants to do jobs that we don't want to do" argument when low wage jobs are completely automated

I really wonder how that narrative is still held up, automation feels like a blink away/already in progress
It should be obvious that a big chunk of currently unemployed people is unemployed because they used to do monotone factory jobs that aren't needed anymore ALREADY TODAY
Importing uneducated untrained people "to fix problems with open jobs" feels wrong,even if they want to integrate and try very hard, they will not be skilled to do any job in 5-10 years

>>126293460
>electrical engineering

>robot design

Bahahahahahaha

You're just a sparky who paid 100k instead of getting an apprenticeship

>>126296380
oh you won't be made obsolete by robots but rather but by wireless power transmission. Probably not something that will be the norm in our lifetime. Though you never know when some breakthrough hits.

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>>126292657
>>my trade can never get replaced by robots
It doesn't replace the masons though, people want to buy and maintain old houses houses and they are ready to pay for it. That robot still works side by side with humans.

If you want a 100% automated building process then 3d printing with different types of concrete is more realistic. If you are just making a dome you don't even need something that advance, just scale this up 1000 times, replace the blade with a nozzle that pours concrete and make it move up a few inches every rotation.

programmers will never be replaced by robots

>>126296468
>It reduces the cost of labor throughout the whole supply chain
true, still it will never come to the point where production is so cheap that it will supply free food to everyone.
Even without humans involved and labour costs of 0, if you want a steak, where does the cow come from, and the plastic the steak is wrapped into?

>>126297006

When wireless power transmission happens, can't we just send a whole bunch of solar panels to orbit?

>>126296380
>Basically you'd need to be able to build an android dirt cheap to undercut the cost of an electrician

and sexbots are the priority anyway.

>>126296863
One of those melts completely at 217 degrees Celsius. A simple fire would cause total structural collapse.

>>126296737

Better than taking a hurrr durrr leap from manufacturing automation results in free consumer goods.. realistically, prices would rapidly decrease as deflation drastically increases in lieu of a broad workforce to disperse disposable income necessary for generating economic activity and growth

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>>126292657
>bricks
>no cement
>"m-my house can never be replaced by a gentle breeze"

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>>126292657
Isn't this a good thing?
Like I always hear that raising the minimum wage is bad because it replaces more jobs with robots. Isn't that a good thing, isn't that what we want to do?

>>126296891
They will use humanitarian reasons like they use today.

We must feed Africa and support their high birth rates and we can't deny them entry into our nicer countries, they just want a better life.

It will never stop while globalists breathe.

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>>126294095
>>126296413

>>126296438
>or do you think they self-maintenance?

im sure there are some factories in the world where robots maintain other robots but a human would still be needed somewhere down the line.

>>126297560
I'LL HUFF
AND I'LL PUFF

>>126292657
In theory this would eventually mean less work hours for just as much benefit. It should be a great thing in the future people will just have to find other challenges in life.
Then again before all the kinks are out of it will take a long while and there's always the problem of tight, odd locations and the fact that a human is more versitable so if there's no machine which can come to site humans can at least do some smaller scale work.

>>126297006
I wouldn't even be mad honestly

>>126297655

it did change the teller job though. Way more sales pressure on them now then before the atm.

>>126297376
Irrelevant because unless you pour jet fuel on it first, it won't sustain a fire long enough to reach that temperature. High-grade thermoplastics are self-extingiushing.

>>126297766
Wrong it means more work hours and fewer employees.

>>126293742
Nah, what will happen is we get rid of the excess population.

1 post by this ID

>>126295745
Maintenance fitter master race?

>>126297856
There are combustibles inside the house dumbass.

Test output of automated assembly machines. Who will test the tester?

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>>126292657
Mfw Senior Java Developer

>>126297878
Why more work hours? Doesn't make any sense.

>>126296438
>electrician (trade school graduate)
>qualified to maintain robots
wat

>tfw architecture and engineering will still require human element even after programs get even more advanced

>>126297938
>>126297938
>>126297938
>>126297938
>hide slide threads

>>126292657
Good thing I'm engineer who program these robots.

>>126298009
>Java
Unfortunately your job is already obsolete
>>126297714
Maintenance is made out to be a much bigger issue than it actually is. Within 5 years, robots will be reliable enough that maintenance can be handled by an outside contractor coming in every 6 months. No employee needed to maintain them.

I'd like to see a robot do smash repair on a car.

>>126293742
Do you really expect the farmers to give you their food for free even if their whole business is run by robots? No of course not, they're still going to sell it because they need to pay back the millions they invested in robots somehow, and after that all the maintenance and side expenses.

Only thing that can save unnecessary people from automation is governemnt gibs.

>>126292657
Yep ALL STEM DEGREES including engineer and doctor will be replaced by robots.

Uh oh what you gonna do? Aww :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AuK_k980tk

Might be automated, it wont ever be mexican though

>>126292657
Great idea, cheaper production means either more production or less manhours.
Those manhours can then be spent elsewhere.
I strongly believe this will boost the economy.

What happens when the only jobs left to humans are social studies ones?

>>126296608
We build tons of shit from wood over here. Works fine.

>>126298785
Doctors still need to diagnose people and prepare the robots for surgeries. I see only nurses getting replaced, but only some of them.

>>126298155
There are different branches you can specialize in, you know. Of course robotics will be one in the future.

>>126296520
>implying that humans won't merge with robots

>>126299072
https://www.top500.org/news/watson-proving-better-than-doctors-in-diagnosing-cancer/

>>126292657
>robot can lay 3k bricks in a day
>3 commie bricklayers in commie poland could lay 3002 bricks in 45 minutes

>>126299072
computers are already more accurate at diagnosis than doctors.

The only thing keeping general practitioners around is people feeling comfortable interacting with humans.

>>126299216
That's not hard. Simple algorithms are betters than doctors.

>>126299126
I know. I also know that the majority of them are knuckleheads with double-digit IQs.

>>126297186

except for when we have an a.i. that can write better programmes than a human.

>>126292657
I'm surprised this type of robot doesn't exist already.

>>126297655
Tellers became glorified cashiers and sales persons.

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>>126298810

>>126299422
Who will tell it what to program? A programmer, that's who.

>>126299645
>doesn't understand what AI means

>>126299645
a pretty young girl hired by an old dude probably

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>mfw "robots" and computers will replace 90% of all low level lawyer jobs

>>126292657
>spending $300,000 for a single wall when you can get 12 Mexicans and pay them $2,000, a couple of tacos, and some beer and will produce 10× more
The electrical field is advancing at a rapid rate with controls, infrered scanning, and monitoring wave lengths to troubleshoot 3 phase breakers energizing pumps for an entire poo plant. I have seen more shit in my first year than people have seen in their 5 years.

Side question. Who is going to do the diagnostics on the robots when they take a shit?

Pro tip: it won't be an engineer because they don't even leave their house

>>126292657
>become inter-planetary species
>tons of new markets emerge
>start civilization from scratch
>tons of new jobs available
>hyper-capitalism

COMMUNISM BTFO

>>126292657
>SEMIAUTOMATED

>>126299697
liberal arts student spotted

>>126292657
>BRONCO bricklaying project
>HadrianX and Fastbrick
>Mortar Machine
>Fabricator
Literally all machines touted to replace bricklayers and steal our jobs.
But maybe this time they'll succeed. Maybe this time their memes won't stay dreams

Also
>Calling brickies masons
>Fucking Americlaps

Also
>tfw psychiatrist
As long as there are unhappy rich cucks needing drugs to feel like their lives have meaning I'll be employed.

>>126292657
I work in construction and I can confirm. In our company it's all about building information modeling (bim) and automation.
Self-driving excavators are actually easier to introduce than self-driving cars because they operate in a confined space. Plus, drones and earth-bound laser measuring tools help the robots to work more accurately than a human ever could.
The industry is undergoing a disruptive phase that will render most blue collar workers useless. Construction will look totally different in 15 years from now.

>>126299866
Almost. I'm a software engineer.

>>126299739
sounds like you're a dumb mexican who can't comprehend automation
>how could troubleshooting 3 phase breakers EVER be automated even though I'm capable of doing it as a complete beginner

>>126299422
DELET

>>126299608
How does this work and scale with the hundreds of path sizes?

you either turn society and architecture into cookie cutter specs or forver every contractor to have 90 differant machines.

>>126299903
Poor Estonia.

>>126299903
This anon gets it 100%. And it's not just construction workers, BIM+Generative Design is going to put tons of HVAC/electricians/other specialists out of work.
When a computer can route the conduits for you in the most efficient way possible, why pay an electrician?

>>126300027
>spending in excess of the equivalent of a million dollars 80 years down the line for an ai when you can just get some electricians
Not Mexican, whiter than you. Automation still needs operators and oversight. This will be true for decades. It will only make the job easier. I would like to see a machine that can go into crammed hanging ceiling trying to find a ground fault in a fire alarm line as well.
>inb4 they incorporate continuity testers on each cheap plastic piece of shit device and they can accurately relay this to the FACP

>>126292657
>Be a murse
>robots cannot put up with shit from patients like a murse.
>robots start killing patients intentionally.

>>126300414
Let's see a automaton actually bend pipe, diagnose issues, troubleshoot, and actually be autonomous. The US military hasn't even incorporated that mechanical dog made by DARPA yet.

>>126300059
most path sizes have international standards
this is for locations that actually have urban development plans

>>126299903
Is like to see robots replace carpenters

>>126300492

>robots start killing patients intentionally.

maybe theres hope for society after all.

>>126300643
Why is that so hard to believe? In the software industry, automated testing is already common.
I know machine learning is a buzzword these days, but machine learning + lots of sensors is going to result in automated troubleshooting that's more accurate than a human.

So what is it? Are companies desperate for tradesmen, or are the trades going to become irrelevant in the next decade?

>Trucking companies are desperate for drivers
>self-driving trucks will be mainstream in a decade putting drivers out of work

Why should anyone enter a trade when they'll be kicked immediately afterwards? Why learn any skills when they'll become completely useless the moment after you learn them?

>>126292657
Wheres the mortar?

>>126301213
I can only see that ever being used on massive scale projects, only then would the benefits outway the cost of moving that fucking machinery around.
>inb4 it's terminator and can move faster than me
Telling you right now no one wants to pay $30,000+ a day for a machine rental to diagnose a singular issue in their retail store.

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>>126292657
>>126293460
>>126293724
>>126295405

MFW these dumbasses don't realize the exact same arguments were made during the industrial revolution.
MFW technological advances always offers more job opportunities, not less.

Human desires are INFINITE. This is why you fap to DP trap porn even when you have a gf. There is not a finite number of jobs.

>>126294515
>>126294755

Sweden and France get it.

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>>126300414
Exactly. Maybe it's also worth mentioning that there will be a shift in the revenue structure: the BIM models can be further monetized after the completion of the building because it encompasses all necessary info for home automation, facility management, modernization and so on.

>mfw my industry becomes smart

>>126300492
>murse
You do realize nurse doesn't hold a gender, right?

>>126292657

what we really need are killbots to depopulate africa and the middle east.

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>>126301703
>even when you have a gf

>>126294249
My anon!

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>>126298009
>Java

>>126292657
>he thinks building projects ever go by the plans
Wew lad!
You must be an architect, lmao!
>t.beaner whisperer

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>>126301334
>Judges masculinity based on job
>Shows insecurity about his own masculinity
>Put up gif of himself.

>>126301915
Tell Mr shrimp dick over here
>>126301334

>>126292657
>tfw chiropractor
>tfw robots literally can never do my job
>tfw great job security

>>126301703
A was reading "The Road to Wigan Pier" by Orwell. He noted that a millions of people, mainly coal miners, were unemployed and living in poverty during the industrial revolution. The undesired cure for all these poor, angry unemployed people was a world war. He talked alot about the rise of fascism as more and more middle class people were put out of work and it's weird to see the same thing happening now.

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>be a robot
>get all the jobs
>mfw

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>>126294755
>when there are still human workers

>>126302935
People aren't being put out of work here in America. People do not want to work. There is an entire generation lacking in the trades because college meme degrees. Now the market is flooded by limp wrists who don't want to get dirty, hold $80k+ in debt, and didn't get their dream job because of rampant nepotism.

>>126302933
Don't feel so secure, if a robot can do surgery then it can also be a chiropractor.

>>126292657
tfw robotics job with comau
wiring up servos for tesla
we will never ever allow robots to build other robots

>>126302933
>tfw you think a chiropractor is a real job and could've been a real doctor and actually helped people.

>>126302971

>be sexbot
>cuck everyone, even the bbc.
>BOTTED

>>126293742

it all depends on who owns the robots.

>>126303143
is this actually true?
from what i can tell tradesmen still get paid like shit which shouldn't be the case if what you're saying is correct
>As of Mar 2017, the average pay for a Master Plumber is $25.43/hr

>>126303433
then buy stock in Kuka or Yaskawa, problem solved.

>>126292657
>Be Graphic Designer
>Computers can't conceptualize emotions
>Never out of a job

Get fucked, Engineeringfags

>>126292657
But automation is amoral!
Think about all those jobs that will be taken from those poor immigrants! : (

>>126303526
It's relative. If I went to work in San Francisco as a non indentured apprentice my wage would be $30/hr at 51% of Journeyman's pay. Meanwhile here in San Antonio the Journeyman's wage for Electrician is $27.50 but you can also get a brand new 3000 sq ft house in a nice neighborhood for $230k. Try getting a hovel in San Fran for less than $200k. Plumbers wages here in San Antonio is around $33/hr. Master licenses don't mean shit unless you are running your own shop.

>>126301703
Industrial revolution and automation are two very different beasts.

I own an video game store, won't get any more specific than that. Automation will only make me richer.

>>126300414
>hvac
> automated
Uwot

>>126298785
>Jewish doctors being replaced by the technocrats elite

Are you this retarded?

>>126295405
You are a fucking idiot. You are
posting from a country whichs economical success is purely based on the aceptance of automated procecces by the workforce.
Yet you complain about manual labour being replaced by robots.
You either have not worked proper job in your entire life, or you are too stupid to get accepted into a job that requires any cognitive skills whatsoever.
Keep cleaning public toilets Achmet.

Fucking subhuman scum. People like you make me hate my own countrymen.

>>126305585
i don't really wanna be part of the jerking each other off while robots do everything productive economy

>be railway signal and communications maintainer
>never be replaced by robots

>>126306317
can't tell if u are serious

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What is my fate at Walmart? I've been working there over a decade and there's no future anywhere else since I don't have a GED.

They already cucked me out of overtime post-2008 financial crisis. What's going to happen the next recession?!

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>>126293460
time traveler here

THE ANIMATRIX WAS RIGHT, DONT LET THE DAMN ROBOTS REPAIR THEMSELVES AND BUILD THEIR OWN CITIES !!!!

>>126306435
You could grow a pair of balls and start lugging a hundred pounds of copper over your shoulder and immediately be in a better position.

>>126306935
Too many non-whites on job sites with little to no agency that will put me at risk for extreme injury or death.

>>126306430
Explain to me how a robot is going to respond to a failure of a random piece of wayside electro-mechanical equipment, troubleshoot it, repair it, and test it back into service.

>>126292657
Fastbrick will wreck this shit.

Plebs will soon be obsolete. Even if UBI happens is that really the future you want? Living in some human storage unit of an apartment eating non descript nutritional paste just to stay alive for the sake of nothing more than continuing to exist?

>>126307045
>took off tripfag
>pink ID
>that fear
Everything checks out. I have gone up in 130ft boomlifts and thought that shit was fun. Didn't even worry when it got overextended and stuck. You can work towards something through blood and sweat, but if you want to barely scape by like most Americans at 39hrs a week at $11/hr with less than a grand in the bank then sure.

>>126293733
People have jobs because they require income, and a lot of people have jobs not because they enjoy the hard work, but because it's the best that was available to them.

>>126306515
animatrix was a good film. it has some good moral allegories and messages in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0K6Cb1ZoG4

>>126307294
how'd u get unstuck

>>126306292
Maybe this will start happening sometimes in year 3000.

Let's be fair here. A lot of jobs involve people doing the same shit ad infinitum.
Lots of these jobs are shitts. But those jobs are always part of a bigger picture.

Truck drivers do two things: They drive trucks often they also load/unload the trucks.
Driving trucks is a horrible job.
>Sitting hurts your back.
>Gotta pay attention to the road for hours.
>Stressfull because of tight scedules.
>Gotta sleep in your truck if you can not deliver in time because of traffic jams or whatever the fuck happens all the fucking time...
I do not know a single truck driver who does the job because driving trucks for 11 hours a day is fun or fullfilling.
Truck drivers drive trucks to earn a living.

Will truck drivers be angry about self driving trucks? Of course they will.
But they will not be angry because they lost their job, but because they have lost their income. This might seem like a redundant point, but it is important to differenciate.
People who do simple jobs are sceptics in regards to automation, not because they are affraid to lose their jobs, but because they are affraid to lose their income.
Now, if you replace truck drivers with computers, where will the truck drivers go? They will probably find a nice job that does not require them to drive all across the country, but will probably keep doing the loading/unloading part of the job, because doing that is a more difficult process.
Maybe in another ten years, robots will do that for them. Then they will probably maintain these robots, or correct their mistakes.
Meanwhile productivity as a whole increases because more shipments and deliveries can be handled in a shorter amount of time.
Everybody wins.

Same for brick layers. Brick layers do not actually like laying down bricks. The job itself is more complex than that. Having a machine lay the bricks, while the person behind the machine operates it and does additional work is the future.

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>>126307294
sorry for taking my trip off. Didn't notice until I pressed post.

>>126307505
>find local JATC
>not be fucked up
>fill out application
>do interview in front of the board
>get sent immediately to work for a contractor
>company is based and all merit is on showing up at time and working hard

>>126292657
>need a wall build
>call Wallbot inc.
>6 guys turn up
>spend 5 days instaling the metal rail, hydraulics,power, and positioning robot into place.
>robot builds wall
>wall falls down due to no morter being used

>OMG now building a house has become 90% cheaper, this is horrible!
Luddites are fucking pathetic.

>>126307676
>>126307505
Oh wait thought you meant unstuck from a shitty position in life. We had a dude at the bottom whose sole role was to bring us down. The only way to override that piece of shit was to use the ground controls.
>>126307645
At least niggers are a rare sight on job sites.

>>126292657
Looks like it lays brick just fine as long as it is indoors, on it's track, the track stays clean, and the robot is plugged in. In other words, that bot is still completely dependent on humans.

AI is a meme and robots can only do very simple repetitive jobs as long humans tend to the robots.

>>126307676
i meant from the overextended boomlift LOL but this is good advice

>>126294360
birth rates around the wold are plummeting
look it up
there is no population boom coming fear monger

>>126307860
Just like many things scientists and engineers come up with, it's a cute overpriced toy only tested in completely pristine constant conditions. The moment there is a temperature change or some dirt that motherfucker will fold.

>>126307850
I always thought spics and niggers were a high percentage of laborers? At least that's how my father described his jobsites some 15 years ago.

All of these robots will be making shit for people, advancement is good. We complain about modern problems but it's a hell of a lot better han living in Africa or medieval tier societies.

The sooner we enter into surreal sci fi life the sooner we become a post earth civilisation.
Space is full of rogue planets and asteroids being spat out by binary star systems, unless we become star trek and have the insurance of moving to giant space stations and colonies we are going to be killed by flying rocks at some point for certain.

Embrace the future.

>>126307597
The bricky will not suffer from horrible back pains once he hits his fourties, and more brick buildings can be contructed. Cheaper and faster.
And the bricky will do work that is more engaging than laying down walls. Doing windows or corners for example are tasks that machines are far from being able to complete.

Th amount of masons won't change a lot. But the amount of work getting done will increase.
This is a good thing and is beneficial to everyone involved.

For some reason, english speaking countries have always been sceptic about machines killing jobs. History proved that to be wrong.

Just take a look at he automobile industry.
The brits were amazing auto builders oncce. Then the robots came. The british labour unions fought that process with all their might.
Meanwhile the Germans embraced machines and used them to work alongside them.
Now british carmakers market share has plummeted into insignificance, while german car makers are strong.
All because germans did not reject the future, but embraced it as a means to get more shit done, for lower cost.

>>126296765
pottery comes from the word poetry which is taken from George Lucas talking about Starwars.

Kino means Cinema and is used to refer to a particularly high level of film.

>>126308104
Spics yes, niggers no. There is MAYBE 1 per job site and they don't even say shit to me. They just move slow. Spics are everywhere unless you go to rural Montana.

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>>126293063
Backhoes eliminated construction workers. They are all gone now.

They said automation was going to replace human labor ever since the industrial revolution. Anyone who thinks it's going to happen after more then a century of false starts is stone fuck retarded.
It will always cost more to design/build/maintain a machine then it is to just do it yourself or pay someone else to do it.

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>>126296765
go back

>>126296468
>>126296364

Brick is still aesthetically pleasing to some people. We like knowing that a person laid 1 brick at a time to build a house. If people learn that a robot can repair shit instantly, people would be destroying their houses with artificial terrorism in order to reap insurance or something of the sort. That's what they did with 9/11

>>126293063
Try more like 15

>>126296765
It's a joke to say pottery instead of poetry. I don't know what kino is though.

>>126308235
>german car makers are strong.

Complete bullshit, the only thing keeping the German auto industry afloat is all of the EU subsidies. Take those away and it would implode on itself within a year.

>>126296799
Where and when chippie?

I want to make some investments and shorts. I would like to know when the big robot take over will occur and in what industries.

If it doesn't happen in the next 20 years, please be a hero. Thanks.

>>126308680
This may be true, but name all the major german carmakers, and then name all the major british ones that you know, and you will get my point.

>>126301703
fewer* you stupid dumb weeb

>>126308503
>thinking you can win with insurance
They will make sure you get as little as possible. And then they will charge you 50x more for insurance after that. Soon you won't be able to drive a car because you need insurance for that legally and nobody will insure you. Insurance will try every dirty trick. Mind you, you can sometimes win big if you get "lucky".The 9/11 guy had connections in the government and that's how he made money.

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>>126292657
>50% of jobs will be lost withing the next 20 years
>/pol/ is against basic income because MUH GOMMUNISM

>>126303723
>Computers can't conceptualize emotions
LOL you'll get fucked soon enough m8

>>126308838
You're point is irrelevant to the fact the only thing the German auto industry does is provide welfare support for kikes.

>>126309283
More like
>running a business will be 50% cheaper in 20 years
>people use this as an excuse for gibs instead of becoming entrepreneurs

>>126309283
We should strive for the day when we will be able to work less and not the day when we would get paid for not working.

>>126309283
>50% of jobs will be lost withing the next 20 years

They've been saying that since the late 1800's m8, stop falling for the automation meme.

What a fucking waste.
Lazy ass retarded assholes.

Go to your job and lay those fucking bricks. Christ.
Robots don't have to god damn do everything.

How pathetic, lazy and ugly.

>>126307293
>Living in some human storage unit of an apartment eating non descript nutritional paste just to stay alive for the sake of nothing more than continuing to exist?

best i can hope for. gib ubi

>>126297598
You're left with a huge chunk of populace too dumb to do the work that is left. Until we go full eugenics and just kill the undesirables that's gonna be a problem.

>>126301703
This guy gets it

>>126301703
They are wasting time carting around a robot, programming it, setting it up, moving it around, feeding it bricks.

Instead of just hiring another 2 guys two just go there and get the fucking job done and lay some god damn bricks.

Stupid stupid stupid stupid.
>this job stealing robot INCREASES jobs! durrrhurrrrrr

There is no way this shitty robot is about to come here and replace hardened Mason's.
It will never be able to lay stone, never be able to avoid constant problems such as damaged material, different size brick, inconsistencies with wet material, brick ties too high, electrical, plumbing outlets, un level foundations etc,etc. And a couple of decent Mason's will put down 3000 bricks in a day. You have to be some kind of lazy bastards to be replaced by this autrosity..

Stop OP's vid exactly at 2:12.

Note the two offset bricks on both sides of the guy in the orange shirt.

Unacceptable workmanship.

Also, manually loading bricks into robot. Should be able to use forklift to load entire skid/pallet of bricks at once onto conveyer system.

>>126309283
If you're going to have a basic income, you had better come up with a new energy supply that far outstrips anything that we have today, along with basic protections of rights and opportunities for overachievers to be rewarded for what they do far beyond basic income.

>>126309283
Jobs will be lost but new jobs will be made. There is no reason to believe that won't happen like it always has.

On the other hand we have seen the toxic effects of welfare states.

>>126292657

congrats you just showed technology from 90'ens.

>>126309283
>/pol/ is against basic income because MUH GOMMUNISM
I'm against basic income because if you're not paying for the product, then YOU are the product.

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>tfw I've always wanted to work in a video store
>video stores don't exist any more

No wonder why I've stayed mediocre.

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>>126292657
>be project manager
>there are always projects, e.g. replacing uneconomic manual jobs with automation

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>>126310115
>Jobs will be lost but new jobs will be made
Wow look at all those jobs and people working
>1 employee

>>126308061

i thought people were saying things like the human population would increase dramatically (by billion) in the next 100 years? is that bullshit?

>>126306435

I would just stay at Walmart. To get one of those trade jobs like >>126306935
mentions you need to know somebody. And since you work at Walmart you probably don't know anyone.

>>126308088
So here's what you do: build the wall indoors, in manageable pieces, ship the wall in pieces, and then put those pieces together at the desired location. This is how prefab housing is done.

>>126292657
>not learning the robotics side of you trade also
the whole reason i went to welding school was to know how to program the welding robots. So when i get too old to weld or replaced, i can program my replacement and push buttons on my ass.

>>126310104
kek, you git me.

>>126310543
He's a fucking kike.
Plummeting birth-rates in Africa means they have 7 kids instead of 10.

>>126299883
Everyone in the trades calls them brickies.

>>126310453
Except for the fact the entire auto industry in Murica collapsed twice in the past 40 years.
Forgot about that 1trillion in bailouts already?
The more heavily automated they were the less they were able to adapt and the more tax payer money they needed to stay afloat.

>>126292657
Automation being regarded as a problem is only a thing in America.

The rest of the developed world will simply adopt as much socialism as there is job loss, to stimulate culture, entrepreneurship, creativity and other characteristics that only humans have.

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>>126310868
>muh cars
lmao

10,000 jobs in this picture alone!!!!! thank you robots!

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This warehouse creates billions of jobs by firing all of its employees and automating the entire process!

>>126311177
>10,000 jobs in this picture alone

Bad B8 M8.

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>>126311342
Your house didn't burn down.
A new house buyer was created.
geewizz

>>126310591
Lel I was a kid from California who had to interview in front of old Texans. You just have to want it.

>>126303324
t. lazy faggot who has never performed backbreaking manual labor

>>126293733
Thats like saying why would anyone want to be a police officer and not want to get shot one day.

I can tell you have never laid a single block or brick in your life.

I would prefer just to monitor and set up a robot to do the heavy lifting and not have a trashed back at 45 years old.

As a machinist, I would lift large pieces of barstock into machines to be fixtured.

Some of this barstock weighed about 150 pounds, it was a real back killer, I don't think you understand how far you have to reach into a machine to fixture a part.

I am very thankful for the hydraulic vices instead of cranking on vices, would you consider that automation also?

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im a bricklayer and not sure if i should be worried about this machine

pros
> it can work overnight run by cheap labour feeding it bricks and mortar
> it uses a sensor to make the perps inbetween bricks line up perfectly which is impossible for me, even if mine are fine
> easier on the old men so they can work longer


cons
> its very very slow, i can lay four to one on this machine so two men laying will beat it easily, even if it works through brakes it requires manpower
> leases for about 3300 a month dont know if thats good
> can build corners,footings or anything technical
oh and no wonder its only being used in america, they only want wooden frame pieces of shit that get blown down easily so they can collect on the insurance

you need to sort yourselves out mate

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>>126301703
>Sweden and France get it.

stopped reading there

>>126294755

You see researchers testing their design dumbass. You think they're designing this robot to require an entire fucking crew of people to operate? When will you mouthbreathing fucks comprehend the purpose of every piece of technology is to reduce human involvement and effort of a specific action, the end goal always being zero. It'd be ridiculously cost ineffective to buy that hunk of shit AND a crew of workers, something is going to give in.

Protip: it'll be people

>>126311884
>stopped reading there

That was the end of their argument you stupid kike. You read to the end then stopped reading like everyone else did.
I swear to god the more you people talk the more i want Hitler to come back.

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Oh hey a robot thread.

Germans in this thread what's it like knowing that your most important and advanced robot company has been sold off lock stock and barrel to the Chinese? I really can't believe how absolutely fucked you guys are. But the worst bit is when the Chinese learn all the trade secrets and begin producing shitty cheapified versions of the robots in their sweat shops and just close down Kuka it's going to fuck over all of us too. Fuck you Krauts.

>>126301703

> not realizing how many skilled trades died out after technology got better, shifting the populace towards (((service industries)))

Found the desk jockey.

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>>126292657
>>my trade can never get replaced by robots
Starts the tread with a strawman. This has been happening for thousands of years and is a good thing.

>>126311828
> its very very slow, i can lay four to one on this machine so two men laying will beat it easily, even if it works through brakes it requires manpower

I think the point to be made here is that even if you could lay faster than SAM, and even if you keep applied 90%+ while working, same gives 100% at this lower speed constantly. I could see how this could outstripe newer layers or mexis that work well enough for a couple hours a day and then waffle around for the rest of it.

>>126303526
Seriously? I just finished my degree in Mech.E, got a job as a fucking SOFTWARE DEVELOPER, and I'm starting at that
Feels good

>>126312596
Why would one robot need to pour another robot a bear?

>>126312689
How much do you pay for a non niggerfied single apartment

>>126312782
It's just toasting their new Chinese overlords.

>>126312782
Because it only has one hand.

>>126313017
Man, deep. That was really supportive of it.

>>126292657
> theyre still responsible for configuring SAM
> theyre still responsible for manteinance and settings
> someone wil always be responsible
there you go fagot. robots CREATE jobs

We all know the future of construction is in large-scale 3D printing.

>>126311826
Use a hoist or a fucking cherrypicker dumbass. I hope you enjoy your hernias and hemmeroids

>>126293063
The biggest sectors of employment are transportation and retail. Transportation is going to be automated in five years, retail will be phased out in the next fifteen.

He'll with things like Amazon department stores themselves might become obsolete.

Then what? Basically everyone with IQ<100 will be totally unemployable

>>126292657
This would be perfectly fine as long as the job site never had a tree, mud, fences, or uneven ground.

>>126307725
This would work if the builders didn't care about making a profit.

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>>126313404
>create one job
>take six jobs away
mmmh..

>>126296413
BINGO
> more automation = cost reduction
> cost reduction = more money for the industry & demand increase
> therefore MORE projects are done
there wil always be overhead, manteinance, configuration experts, and these will increase in demand even if the low level shit doesnt

>IT services
No robot is going to teach other people to not fucking open unknown email attachments and backup their stuff

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>>126301703

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>>126313550
>he thinks a robot can't be programmed to take trees, mud and uneven ground into account

>>126313574
> reduction of operation costs
> increase productivity, increase demand
> more demand, therefore need to expand, therefore need to hire more
> therefore more jobs than 1
> these new jobs are high skilled, pay better

>>126313880
Now make it cost less than $2,000 a day in real currency(USD).

>>126295405
For every combine x number of farmers lost their jobs.

98% of the workforce used to be farmers until the industrial revolution, now only 2% are farmers. Yet for some reason we don't have 98% unemployment right now.

Why is that?

Human desires are infinite and there will always be new areas of employment no matter the level of automation.

We have jobs now that a farmer 200 years ago couldn't even dream of. The same will be said 200 years from now. We will have jobs that are inconceivable to us now.

>>126292657
the problem is not that automation will take jobs but that the labor market is already over-saturated as it is

http://www.oxfordmartin.ox.ac.uk/downloads/academic/The_Future_of_Employment.pdf

Hahahahahaha

ahahaha

suckers

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

what if we turn a few select cities into super city states?

they'll be closed in by a wall with tight security and only certain people will be allowed to live in them.

every service will be fully automated and energy will be supplied using new energy gathering technologies.

They'll become like small utopias where an elite class of people will thrive, living a lifestyle that surpasses what any other humans has lived before.

we'll have gene editing to make all the citizens have super human body features as well as cybernetic implants, they will become like demigods.

meanwhile the rest of the earth becomes an apocalyptic wasteland over run by islam and civil war, that society will regress far backwards. Forests will reclaim much of the land.

>>126292657
Great song OP. Now sing me the song about you and your leftist politicos is entitled to universal basic income because robots are doing all the manual labor anyway. And please explain why a steel working stiff like me must pay over 70 percent of my income in taxes to cover your UBI while doing a job that's been predicted that machines would completely take over ever since John Henry was laid to rest

>>126301703
>MFW these dumbasses don't realize the exact same arguments were made during the industrial revolution.

Number of horses peaked in 1916 because of engines displacing them.

Smart machines WILL do the same to the demand for human brains.

>Human desires are INFINITE. This is why you fap to DP trap porn even when you have a gf. There is not a finite number of jobs.

You can't compete against an international conglomerate that can undercut you in prices and in quantity.

We'll have automated buses and trucks in the next 10 to 15 years.
That's millions of lowly educated people requiring new jobs.

Basic income might offer a solution for this problem.

>>126294011
Robots can barely walk in a straight line, good luck seeing one climb into a ceiling to dig through your wiring by the time anon retires.

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>>126301703
https://youtu.be/nEI19kJ5GfU

SOON

>>126292657
Brave new world.

>>126292657
>robots start ascending cell phone towers
>trouble shooting rf / fiber issues / installing antennas / radios / pluming the tower / safty inspections of the guy wires / structural issues / microwave pathins / LoS qos reports /

Yea naw I'm good.

>>126292657
>tfw your job is STEM which requires imagination and personal skills
Yeah, I'm pretty much set until I die.

>>126314813
>what if we turn a few select cities into super city states?

Literally the sheep gathering themselves into a single location for extermination. All they need to do is shut down publicly owned transit and everyones good as dead.

The rich won't need any useless consumers eating their precious resources.

This is worth a watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU

If you think automation isn't going to get you, think again. It's going to completely change the way we work/live in the next century.

>>126315310
Fuck off with your shitty meme video. I'm so sick of seeing redditors spread this utter crap around.

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>>126314955
>Robots can barely walk in a straight line

>>126296277

Gypsies, not Romani, please. Call them what they are.

>>126315263

no asshat

it's the other way around, the ones living in the city WILL BE THE RICH ELITES.

all the sheep will be living outside getting devoured by the dystopia

> Aerospace engineer
tfw feels good that job will never be replaced

>>126315545
>it's the other way around, the ones living in the city WILL BE THE RICH ELITES.

You're authentic retard. No rich people wishes to live in a city. They're all moving out.

>>126292657

>my trade can never get replaced by robots

Well, I'm a robotic engineer, so yeah, mine can't. :)

>>126292657
>my trade gets easier with the help of robots, ensuring a better future for my species

>>126296916
Yea pretty much. Sparky here. We have a few engis in my company who made the switch to an apprenticeship when they realised there were 100 chans and pajeets competing for the same single 80k job when a good well diversified electrician makes 120k easy. Sad but I have no sympathy for those who got jewed by the education system.

>>126315894
But robots will replace you to make robots who make other robots whom then repair malfunctioning robots who oversee the other robots roboting about robots
>T. Megafucktard who thinks an engineer's overpriced toy designed in a clean lab will revolutionize the world

hahaha tradecucks BTFO

>>126292657
>all that excessive concrete
>all those people who walk behind it to remove said concrete
>all those people who caring bricks and concrete to robot
>that one guy who controlling robot probably gets quite a lot of money for standing there
I bet all the power consumption, not to mention cost of robot itself and his maintenance, would be enough to hire 2-4-6 Mexicans and one competent supervisor and they would do it faster and better.

>>126314955
>>126315415

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7xvqQeoA8c

Sure thing.

>Darn robots can't handle dirt at all. Not like there's an entire industry of robots and machines dedicated to digging in the fucking dirt or anything.

>>126316431
Dude you can hire more Mexicans than that. That is a $300k piece of machinery

>>126315405
>shitty meme video
denial won't work forever. you wanna talk about automation, this is it. robots and software programs are going to have a significant impact on the job market, maybe not to the degree this guy thinks, but it will happen, and we'll all feel it's effects.

>>126293436
>will the jews give us basic income when everything is automated in the future?
why? if everything is automated why should things cost something?

>>126316986
>why? if everything is automated why should things cost something?

The people owning all the robots don't want to waste their resources on useless mouthbreathers. You're gonna have to sell your organs and daughters to sex slaves to the jews.

>>126316986
Leftys seem to think useless people in a fully automated society need to be kept alive with ubi for some reason. If you rely on the government to live day to day, you're as good as dead already.

>>126316431
Mexicans do shit quality work. It's called a "Mexican Job" for a reason. Plus the wall is going to keep those filthy pieces of shit back in their toilet bowl homeland.

Roughly 40% of all "labor events" have the potential to be replace with automation as of right now.

Notice how its phrased as "labor event"- as in parts of your job can be taken over, not the entire thing. The shittiest, repetition filled areas will be the first to go.

Your job is fine for awhile but you should adapt and demonstrate value, improve yourself and learn new skills.

>>126317726
I want to deport all illegals as much as the next guy, but I don't see $300k robots replacing roofers any time soon. Everything boils down to money and bids in construction.

>>126313448
yea something like this is inevitable for sure

>>126315894
Are you working for an integrator or are you doing R&D for a robotics company? I'm currently doing automation/robotics engineering for a very large manufacturer and starting to try and think about where to go from here. I like the work okay but I want to be more involved in the design of machinery rather than just the implementation of them.

>>126316952
That video is poorly researched and thought out shit. It's only posted by people who have no real clue about the industry but think they know everything there is to know. The robotics revolution is only a continuation of the industrial one all it does is to increase the effective size of the labor force so more complex and advanced technologies become accessible to average people. It's broad effect will be no different to what outsourcing has done, and frankly since most automateable jobs have already been outsourced it's much more likely to create net jobs within the U.S. as automation allows these jobs to be reshored back to the states.

>>126314813
this seems inevitable
isn't it a tv show

I work in an IT company thats currently involved in developing machine vision.

Shits crazy but not deployable today.