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Most based version of the Bible?

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Recent events have opened my eyes to the nature of good and evil. After years of being a programmed agnostic liberal, I am looking towards the light. I wasn't raised in a very religious household, so I don't really know much.

What is the most based version of the Bible?
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>>126270091
NASB. It's the most accurate word-for-word translation, no interpretation added on top.
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>>126270091
The new King James Version. Read it front to back
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>>126270091
The Catholic Bible. Any other version has had books removed from it. Start with Mathew or Luke
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I think the version mary was the most based
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>>126270639
There actually do exist Oriental Orthodox bibles with additional books, the I can't recall what they are off the top of my head.
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Maybe a Gideon or Holy Bible
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>>126270091
The Book of Mormon
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>>126270091
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>>126270420
KJV is the best for an adult, but if you are trying to get your kids or young adult reading the NIV might be best. The language is almost shakespearian and if you've ever given a kid shakespeare to read they usually can't get into it because they aren't used to the wordings. KJV is superior if you are a native english speaker.
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>>126270366
>>126270420
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>>126271768
Christcucks get the fuck off this website. This is a pagan Zoroastrian shop-class forum.
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>>126270091
King James.
The rest of the versions are from like 50 Egyptian manuscripts that were (((discovered))) buried in the deserts of Egypt... where heresy comes from.

The early church was based in Antioch Syria, and tje textus receptus that the King James is based on has over 5000 manuscripts.

This video will expqnd upon why all other English versions are for cucks.
https://youtu.be/kFtI_mVOXbQ
>>126270366
Bible made for cucks that is mistranslated starting in Genesis 1. Look into it, Cathcuck.
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>>126271158
they have all four maccabees and the didache. but they were independantly added after the council of rome and carthage in the 4rth century.
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>>126270639
The King James 1611 has 7 MORE books that tje CATHOLICS removed.

The Catholics also removed 1 of the 10 Commandments.

Dont listen to Catholics, Op, theu arent even Chrisrians at this point. They are liars or fools like this goy.
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>>126271768
It's Shakespearean because it was written in the later years of his life where he had influenced the authors and scholars who wrote the KJV.
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>>126271768
The NIV omits 22,000 pieces of scripture.

It is known as the HIV here in the Bible Buckle.
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The absolute most based version of the bible would be the Latin Vulgate, hand-written by St. Jerome in 382 AD at the order of the pope to translate all of the scriptures from greek to latin.

The next best bible would be the Douay-Rheums bible, which is the original translation of the Latin Vulgate into English
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>>126272041
the extra books are many new testament gnostic books which were not included in the canon of scripture at the council of rome and carthage which produced the bible. as for the deuterocanonical books they were included in the greek translation of the septuagint and was used by greek jews before the council of jinnah(jewish rabbinical council not christian one) around 100 ad which excluded both the new testament and the deutero books
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Thanks anons. I appreciate your thoughts.
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>>126272458
also reminder that the catholic church established the new testament canon.
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The KJV is the most direct English translation from the original Greek and Hebrew texts.

Don't touch the NIV, it is riddled with contradictions.
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>>126270091
Mein kampf
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>>126270091
>>126270091
>>126270091
KJV only
https://youtu.be/53BN9tTDoCw
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>>126272230
>The Catholics also removed 1 of the 10 Commandments.
really?
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>>126272414
/thread
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>>126270091
For the retards saying the KJV but not also the NKJV you have to realize that language has changed a bit from Shakespeare's time.
The KJV is a work of art in my eyes and should be admired and respected, but it has become outdated a bit.
I own a very wide array of Bibles and both of my KJ versions are my favorite.
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>>126270091

the quran
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>>126272414
>buy a bible translated from the ORIGINAL Greek, to Latin, to English which has 1 of the 10 Commandments removed because it BTFO the apostate Catholic Church

>buy the KJV that was translated into English from the original Hebrew and Greek by the brightest scholars the King of England could assemble

William Tydale was burned at the stake by the filthy Catholics for daring to translate the Bible into English so people could read it, his last words was a prayer to God that the King of England would have his eyes opened. 2 years later the King authorized the work on the KJV.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Tyndale

Tyndale is one of the thousands of Martyrs made by the evil Catholic Church that will come back with Jesus during the 2nd coming and casts the pope into Hell.
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>>126272829
Topkek, son.
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The Necronomicon.
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>>126270091
You need to first understand the difference between version and translations.

I suggest a translation for learning the love and laws that Christ sent us in his message.
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I am not being facetious because my faith is the only thing I take serious, but whenever you have free time, secluded yourself and ask God the Father in prayer that you are trying to connect to him and you wish him to lead you to the full truth. If you don't think this is possible, just enjoy the ride. I'm not going to unload on this forum, but before you pass from this world I pray you end up in a Catholic Church :) God Bless You.

(I'll pray for you too!)
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>>126271610

Best straight to the point version of Christ's gospel
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>>126270091
septuagint in greek or gtfo
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KJV for poetry, NRSV for accuracy, NIV for readability.

The good parts:
• Genesis
• Exodus 1-15
•Samuel
• Ecclesiastes
•Psalms
• Matthew, Mark, Luke & John
•Revelation

That will cover pretty much 90% of the cultural references anyone will ever make to the Bible. Skip the back half of the Torah and the Pauline stuff (Acts and the Epistles) like your life depends on it, those parts will rot your brain and turn you into an authoritarian slave.
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>>126270091
The real bible is the catholic bible
The vatican owns all the original greek books of the second testament.
When the church of england broke away from rome the king james bible was created then the lazy drifted away from their church and created their own protestant churches using the king james version.
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>>126270091
The best version of the bible(NT) is the original text. Then the vvlgate, then catholic romance language translations.

KJVfags gtfo
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>>126270091
Quran is the final red pill
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The Eth Cepher is an authorized KJV bible that restores the original Hebrew names and meanings of characters and places, puts back in the proper names of God (Yahuah, Yah, Elohim, Adonai, etc), and adds back in some books removed from the original KJV over the years as well as adding in other books quoted by scripture such as First Enoch, all arranged in proper chronological order so you can start at the beginning and discover the true narrative structure of the Bible
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>>126273241
reading NKJV
I bet you haven't watched this yet https://youtu.be/53BN9tTDoCw
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>>126273267
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>>126270091
Strong's Exhaustive COncordance which is read properly (read the "how to read" section). All other answers are literally wrong because they don't include the original greek/hebrew.
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>>126272041
You surely dont know your christian history.
The first testament was written in hebrew and the second testament is written in greek.
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>>126273356
So either of the 2 big KJV
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>>126270091
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>>126271610
>>126273412
You need to have the OT to truly understand the NT
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>>126273412
yep. You'll never read a better version of the Gospels.
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>>126272458
>hurr durr the KJV left out book

>t t those b b books arent cannon anyway
Gets caught being a filthy satanic Catholic Jesuit scum.

Seriously, why are you all reprobate liars?

Tje Gunpowder Rebellion that those faggy Anonymous commies got Guy Fawkes from was based on a Satanic Jesuit traitor that tried to murder King James because he authorized the KJV project.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_Plot
The Catholic Church is Satanic.

Catholics dont evem read their Bibles, or else they wouldnt be Catholics.

Beware.
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>reading translations

Read the original hebrew and greek you cucks
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>>126272989
No comnandments are removed catholics believe in ten commandments.
His bullshit protestant preacher fed him lies.
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>>126273490
>The good parts
Those are indeed good parts of the bible.

But OP needs to give time to study ALL of the new testament if they want to understand what it means to be a Christian.
Along with deep prayer to our Father in heaven.

"“And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

“This, then, is how you should pray:

“‘Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,

your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.

Give us today our daily bread.

And forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.

And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from the evil one.’

For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins."
>Matthew 6
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>>126273241
The NKJV and all other translations are corrupted starting in Genesis 1.
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>>126272414
This is the correct answer
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Bluepilling yourself and becoming a religitard, genius
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Romans is the best

either you're an authoritarian government cum guzzler or you stop liking religion after that
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>>126273782

It's actually better to start with the new testament in order to understand the old testament. The old testament all makes sense in context with the revelations of the nt
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>>126273914
Oops, left a few numbers in there by accident
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>entire thread bickering about which goatfucker had the least warped shit passed down for millennia in a fucked up game of telephone that only retarded southerns believe in 2017
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>>126273490
ACTS is one of the most important books of the Bible, it's where Paul codifies doctrine.
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>>126273841

>Protestant
>Calling others "not Christian"

Fucking kek. The Protestants were the first SJWs, and splintered into 1000 pieces. Tell me Protestant, is everything in the Bible literally true? Why is it so easy for you to be tripped up by atheist fedoras? Do you not realize that the end result of Protestantism is Atheist?
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>>126274246
The end result of common sense is atheist/agnostic
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>>126273660
>not having a wide array of bibles for comparison against one another
K
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>>126273490
>cultural references

gods word is brought down to you needing to know some cultural refrences

wow u have a real respect for god
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>>126274246
Protestants dont seem to understand battling social class or financial class issues is a form of ENVY.
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>>126272652
>also reminder that the One Holy Apostolic Orthodox and Universal Church established the new testament canon before hereisarch Leo I created schism in the Church with his heretical filoque and papal supremacy.

ftfy
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>>126274374
I do that im catholic but after learning some latin you realise some bibles vary on accuracy on certain verses
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>>126273717
You're a subbersive kike putting words into my mouth, because I never said the OT wasnt in Hebrew.

In fact I have already stated that you filthy Catholic pagan shit.

Beaners are Catholic OP, let that sink in. The potato niggers too.

Dont let the Shareblue CTR fags fool you into believing Catholic heresies.
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>>126273848
Having the originals is always helpful
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>>126270091

KJV is GOAT.
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>>126274375
seriously fuck God, tho
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>>126274506
>languages differ due to vocabulary developing differently
Yeah
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>>126273490
Why is NRSV better?
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>>126274413
Peter died in rome so the catholic church is peter's church and most orthodox churches broke away from rome.
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>>126270091
talmud and torah

divineinformation.com
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op and other people in here posting niv,nkjv,catholic versions dont understand the satanic agenda and manipulations of doctrine

you CANT use anything other than a kjv if you know whats going on and are a real christian

u dont get it
there is no baseder version . you dont really get to pick
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>>126273914
enh, stick to the red letters and don't drink Paul's kool-aid.
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>>126274329

Fedora please go, this is a thread for believers. While you leave think about this for a moment; Since I'll assume you're an atheist who thinks the multiverse is real, in one of those universes God must be real, and he must be omipresent in all of universes, since it is of course a multiverse.
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>>126274246
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>denominational squabbles

Just delve into western esotericism.
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>>126274246
At least we actually believe in God
http://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/belief-in-god/
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>>126274246
Catholics burned the real Christians, not that you would know anything about that, Mohammed.

The Catholic Church literally invented medieval torture devices like the Iron Maiden which they used to murder real Christians.

Pic related, it's a Catholic Church pastime.

Baptists have never invented any means of torture aside from country music.
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>>126275059
Oh shit
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>>126273490
>>126274375
>>126274594
This is all you need to know about Catholics... look at this reprobate sodomite.

Catholics dont even believe in God or the Bible, they believe in evolution.
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>>126272230
>The Catholics also removed 1 of the 10 Commandments.
dafuk? Source!?!?!?
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>>126274651
Just because Peter died in Rome and the Pope was first among equals in honor, doesn't change the fact that papal supremacy was whole cloth fabrication and the Papacy fell into heresy. No where in the scriptures or in holy tradition or in the writings of the church fathers does it teach that the leadership of the church is immune from heresy. The scriptures and church fathers say the opposite, warning repeatedly of wolf in sheeps clothing. And look now at your papacy, as he shatters holy tradition and betrays all that your church stands for. Can you honestly look at the modern Catholic church and take seriously the claim that it is the unaltered church of the fathers, especially while the Orthodox, still largely untouched by the ravages of heresy and degeneracy despite a century under Soviet dominance, and multiple centuries under Ottoman and other Muslim rule?

The only truth left in the Catholic church is the truth that points from it to the Orthodox church.
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>>126275115
Baptist didnt exist untill after people wandered away from the church of england.

The baptist were too lazy to follow the orthodoxy of the church of england.
The baptist have no christian knowledge of the first 500 years of christianity after christ's death.
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>>126274641
NRSV is written in this kind of biblical lawyer-ese. It doesn't care how the words sound or about the favorite mistranslations of various sects, it cares about nailing the translation from the original Hebrew / Greek with no margin for error.

I only use it for scholarly work. My go-to translations for pleasure reading is the NIV I got from my protestant grandmother, and the JPS version my Jewish grandfather handed down to me.
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>>126270420
"New" King James, the original of which was based on the Masoretic text and Textus Receptus. Fuck you.>>126274651
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>>126270091
checkout flat earth and the bible
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>>126270091
KJV only
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>>126274839
Filthy Roman heretic.
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>>126274651
Peter died in Rome so the Catholics run the show? Are you retarded?>>126275381
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>>126275309

I'm an atheist transgender Jew who worships at United Church of Christ, not a fucking catholic. And I've read the Bible more times than everyone in this thread put together.
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Kimg james is fin to read but its missing sections,the catholic bible is the real bible.
Also king james himself was a sexual deviant who fucked men and animals.
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None of you retarded faggots know what you are talking about.
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The NIV translators removed 64,576 words as compared to the King James Bible!

Yes, that's right, the NIV butchers removed the word "begotten" from John 3:16.

That's not all that the wicked NIV deceivers took out of the Bible. The word "sodomite" is completely gone, as is the words: fornication, trucebreakers, winebibbers, carnal, slothful, unthankful, effeminate, backbiting, vanity, lasciviousness, whoredom, devils, Lucifer, damnation, brimstone, and the bottomless pit.

It removes the name "Jesus" in 38 places, removes the word "hell" 40 times
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>>126275059
>>126275115

wow all these non-answers to my very basic questions. I wonder who could be this upset over them?

Protestants have stipped everything important away, and think they can honestly "just believe", and think its ok, meanwhile still living their lives the way they want to.
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>>126270091
Watch this OP:
https://youtu.be/FAgDXZfOfx0
All the new versions leave out tons of critical scripture. Only read King James
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>>126275316
The more you know...

And that's not the only thing they removed.
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>>126275486
Pardon?
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>>126275462
Peter was the first pope so the catholic church is the real church,christ gave peter the keys to his kingdom.
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>>126270091
27 Wherefore, men are free according to the flesh; and all things are given them which are expedient unto man. And they are free to choose liberty and eternal life, through the great Mediator of all men, or to choose captivity and death, according to the captivity and power of the devil; for he seeketh that all men might be miserable like unto himself.

28 And now, my sons, I would that ye should look to the great Mediator, and hearken unto his great commandments; and be faithful unto his words, and choose eternal life, according to the will of his Holy Spirit;

29 And not choose eternal death, according to the will of the flesh and the evil which is therein, which giveth the spirit of the devil power to captivate, to bring you down to hell, that he may reign over you in his own kingdom.
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>>126275486

I'm sure you read the Bible, but certainly didn't understand it.
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>>126270091
I got a copy of the repercus from the 1100th in the original greek, that's tge closet version you can get if you're not a researcher.
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>>126275724
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>>126275349
>Baptist didnt exist untill after people wandered away from the church of england.
Baptists have existed since John the Baptist.
Saint John the Revelator was a Baptist, along with his brother James, who were known as the Sons of Thunder because they were so based.
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>>126275638
Because the KJV New Testament is adapted from the Textus Receptus, garbage from the 1500's.>>126275737
No, he wasn't. There is no serious evidence that Peter assumed the papacy.
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>>126270091
King James
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>>126275486
Well the bible says your evil
John 8:44
Also deautronomy 25 says no transgenders
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>>126275737
>Constatine
LMAO
Catholic plz
your bishops arent even married
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;

4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
1timothy 3:2-4
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>>126275843
That first part
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>>126275849
>my modern invented faith based on post-elightnement interpretation of the scriptures was really practiced by someone who never fully understood who Jesus was until he had stopped baptizing and been in prison for years.

That sounds about right.
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>>126275849
Those guys were orthodix they took communion.
All early christians participated in the eucharist.
Baptist dont believe in the eucharist.

The baptist religion is the "protest" christianity against the church of england.
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>>126275737
Jesus gave us all the keys to the kingdom.
The fact that you dont understand the most basic parables that Jesus spake in proves you arent saved.

Jesus himself says that's why je speaks in parables. So the wicked cannot understand.
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>>126276006
The bible says a lot of things.

"why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"

"Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man."

Face it bros, you can't handle God's truth.
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>>126276221
Im not catholic but thats obviously not a parable you mongoloid

read all of matthew 16 plz
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>>126276089
Get a load of this heretic.
John was the light who literally told the world that Jesus was Lord.

How can you Catholic vermin even look yourselves in the mirror after lying about God and the scruprures?
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>>126276448
Again, im not catholic, but no man can dervie his own power and authority of God, thats not possible, and if it were, more than just the baptists would be correct, I could start my own church and teach the same thing
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>>126275366
https://youtu.be/gE0YxtgLjR0
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>>126276188
Orthodox didnt exist and the Eucharist is heresy.

We break break and drink wine to remember Jesus as He said.

Transsubstantiation is pagan Catholic Gnosticism.
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>>126276377
If you studied catholic/early christian history you would become one.
Alot of christians of other denominations become catholic when they study the first 100 years after christs death.
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have (((scientists))) been lying to us?

https://youtu.be/ji2cvuJ1mYg
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>>126276551
Are you forgetting the part where John baptized Jesus? Pretty sure he had some kind of authority
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>>126270091
Young's literal translation.

Any other answer is garbage.

https://discord.gg/zzsPUaJ
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>>126276667
Recieved it from God, he was a PROHPET, last time i checked, baptists say there are no prophets today boy
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>>126276599
The eucharist was celebrated after christs death
People in rome thought the early christians were cannibals.
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>>126276448
>Cathcuck
>implying

Why did John send his followers to inquire after who Jesus was, if he knew him?

What about once saved always saved? John was right that Jesus was Messiah while he was baptizing, but he did not understand what that meant until his time in prison.

So to explain, while John wasn't a baptist in the denominational sense, he is a perfect metaphor for the baptist. Someone who has a shallow understanding of Christ and the scriptures, and has a long way to go before he truly sees.

t. A former baptist turned Orthodox.
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>>126276377
The keys to the kingdom is the Word of God, by which we can know God through the Holy Spirit so that we may be saved.

You need to be born again to enter the Kingdom, because you need the Holy Spirit.
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>>126276711
What does that have to do with anything anyone said?
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God is dead, there is only Lucifer.
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>>126276604
No, try reading this: The Great Apostasy
By James E. Talmage

As catholicism teaches, and I agree, authority must be handed down linearly, however the catholic curch was compromised and ubercucked so hard that the authority was lost, you guys had 3 popes at one time and even female pope, that according to Catholicism, CANT HOLD THE AUTHORITY
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>>126276594
the world is flat
hes never seen the extra biblical evidence of flat earth

hes still believing fake CGI

some people have yet to be woken up on this issue and it will take much longer for them to come around to the truth

i was a flat earth denier for years just because it seemed dumb until a few months ago when i decided to look into it
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>>126270091
Both hitler and pope benedict are catholic.
End thread
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>>126273914

jesus btfoen cathocucks 2 k years ago , why the hell are there still cathocucks ?
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>>126276820
You claim that your religon is correct, it cannot be because you have no authority from God, your church was started in the 1800's practically, unless a prophet was given the authority to start a new church, IT IS FALSE.
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>>126276951
And neither are Christian.
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>>126270091
Haha! This reminds me my christian "phase"...the fucking pastor was so concerned about what version the church should study, and said and keeping saying, KJV! KJV! KJV!

The congregation was filled with toxic, mad, sick people, but for that ashole the KJV bullshit was the most important thing...

What a loser...
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>>126276997
Im not baptist I was baptized Orthodox, but its a fallacy to think that just because your church has been around since the beginnin that it has any resemblance to the early church's teachings, which are much more inportant than its structure
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>>126277179
It doesnt matter if you are teaching the correct doctrine, if you dont have the authority given from an ordained figure of God, your authority if invalid. Read the book of acts, i believe it is chapter 19

1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,

2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism.

4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
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>no Jefferson Bible
>falling for the jewish trickery again
Why not learn exclusively from the teachings of our Lord and Savior?
>important moral teachings
>easiest to swallow
>easiest to spread
>can still be used to justify D E U S V E U L T
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>>126277179
notice that even though they were baptized, they had to be baptized again, why? No authority. check out this exocrism also:

13 ¶ Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.

14 And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so.

15 And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?

16 And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.

They did it in the name of jesus, they had faith obviously, why didnt it work? NO AUTHORITY
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>>126270091
Read the KING JAMES VERSION.

Cambridge makes a good print of it.
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Must watch for my fellow non-proddie bros. Aren't proddies so dumb my dudes like I heard they actually follow the bible.

https://youtu.be/MzrVCdtJ1WQ
https://youtu.be/rEQbWM_kCM0
https://youtu.be/1qX9dn1l4d8
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>>126276870
Not a Catholic, but The Great Apostasy is absolute garbage.

First, there's no evidence of a single teach from Mormonism in the Early Church. Not even in the writings of people who were directly connected to the apostles, so either they were the most incompetent missionaries in the world, or it's bullshit (hint, it's not the former).

Second, while it is both true that authority must be handed down linearly and that the Catholics "had" 3 popes, all 3 recognized the authority of the successor, so it was still handed down linearly. That is why, even though as an Orthodox, I believe the Catholic Pope is a hereisarch, it is at least for now the legitimate seat of Peter. That is still the unbroken lineage.

Third, Mormonism is in apostasy according to the second President of the Church, Brigham Young, who explicitly stated that to give niggers the priesthood would be to fall into apostasy. And what did the Second Declaration found within Doctrines and Covenants do? Exactly that.
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>>126277425
Because Jefferson is currently burning in Hell.
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>>126277403
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So who's this Shiloh fucker Judah rules until? I want to hear what Christians think.
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>>126277502
So what gives an Orthodox priest authority where a Baptist doesnt?
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>>126277715
The combination of solid doctrine, an unbroken lineage back to the apostles, and the holy traditions of the church, including the scriptures and teachings of the early church fathers.
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>>126272364
I think you missed the entire point i was trying to make. Give a kid the KJV and they are immediately lost by the wording. I remember trying to read romeo and juliet when i was in middle school and couldn't make it more than a few pages. whereas in highschool shakespeare was amazing. It's an age thing.
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>>126275718
Catholics utterly btfo. What, no rebuttal Catholics?
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>>126277502

Talking out of your ass?

Matthew 17
>19Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out? 20And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. 21Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.
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>>126277826
So everything I said, minus the ridiculous linear thing thats obviously heresy aimed at trademarking "the one true church"
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>>126275718
saved. will start research.
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>>126277715
The orthodox priest get authority from their bishps like the catholic church does.
The orthodox bishops got their lineage from catholic popes and bishops before the schism.
The protestant preachers get their authority from their cellmate in prison when they got arrested for drugs and check fraud.
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>>126275718
>>126277502
>>126278043
Catholics shown to be the crooked false teachers that they are.

Catholics brought us (((evolition)))... let that sink in. Evolution literally contradicts the Bible ffs.
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>It firmly believes, professes, and proclaims that those not living within the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics cannot become participants in eternal life, but will depart “into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels” [Matt. 25:41], unless before the end of life the same have been added to the flock; and that the unity of the ecclesiastical body is so strong that only to those remaining in it are the sacraments of the Church of benefit for salvation, and do fastings, almsgiving, and other functions of piety and exercises of Christian service produce eternal reward, and that no one, whatever almsgiving he has practiced, even if he has shed blood for the name of Christ, can be saved, unless he has remained in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.
>If you aren't a True™ Christian™ Catholic™ who pays his 10% salvation tax to the One™ True™ Church™ you will be sent straight to hell with the Jews and pagans, goy!
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>>126277568
((Democracy))) BTFO
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>>126278070
Who gives them the authority to diddle little boys?
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>>126270091

The Talmud.
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>>126278376
The bible says give 10% of your crop/harvest to the church
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>>126278048
"the gates of hell shall not prevail"
"the church shall not pass away"

The only way that the church could have not passed away is if it is a church that has had an unbroken lineage back to the apostles. The only way for the gates of hell not to prevail is if it never fell into heresy. Either one of the three major branches (Catholic, Coptic or Orthodox), or Christianity is a fraud. Protestantism is utterly incapable of fitting this requirement.
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>>126270091

the one which doesn't exist
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>>126276691
Wrong. There are two versions of Young's floating around. The older one is the good one, but the one widely available was remade via the same texts that the RV used, which eventually made its way to the NIV. Look into it.
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>>126278510
the bible never says give 10%
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>>126278419
The communist.
All christian denominations got infiltrated by communist and socialist worker pedophiles

Alot of communist are into pedophilia.
Look into BELLA DODD
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>>126278644
18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.

19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:

20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.

Tithe literally means TENTH
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>>126278644
I could search it,its there you have to give sacrifice
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Truth here.
There is no god.
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>>126278644
"22 Make an offering of ten percent, a tithe, of all the produce which grows in your fields year after year"

Deut. 14
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>>126278797
Thank you for finding that I was too lazy to search
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>>126278776
Truth here.
There is no lithuania.
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>>126270091
The Qur'an
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>>126278644
22 And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God’s house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee.
Gen28
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>>126278731
no that doesnt say give 10%

>>126278797
use the king james retard

see how you can get false doctrines from the satanic catholic bibles

Deuteronomy 14:22
Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.
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>>126271911
Fuck Persia and your gay language
کیرتان گوچک است
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>>126278549
That doesnt mean later churches arent legit. Youre speaking in fallacies
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>/pol/ is filled with delusional christfags
Ye this place is finished.
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>>126278051

lol its fucking true they removed the idols
again i say>>126276963
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>>126270091
Douay Rheims for English

All other versions are pozzed
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>>126278967
>ASKING FOR PERCENTAGE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percentage#History

By the 17th century it was standard to quote interest rates in hundredths.

Fug off
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>>126272041
>Pastor Anderson
fucking dropped

King James only fags are fucking idiots. If your so obsessed with accuracy, then learn Hebrew. Did you know King James was one of the most wicked men who ever lived?

Also stop trying to fit in
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>>126279009
If those churches aren't in line with any of the churches that have an unbroken lineage, then they aren't. And there isn't a single protestant church that fits that.
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>>126278967
Tithe is an old-english term for 1/10, it literally means 10%.
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>>126278549
Coptic and orthodox are schismatic catholic the schism is more caused by politics.
The catholic church recognises the coptic and orthodox priest as valid
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>>126279153
>>126279153


The only 2 churches that COULD have any claim to the authority of God are:
First Catholics
Second Mormons

One says the authority was never lost

The other says that it was lost and later restores
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>>126279211
no it doesnt

maybe in the catholic church where they force you to give 10%

thats not a biblical teaching

youre supposed to leave some of your crops for the poor it says

never anything about giving 10%
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>>126279267
Mormons are fake christians
The book of mormon is garbage.
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>>126273490
>Skipping the book of Romans

Are you even saved, Anon? That is literally the most important book next to the Gospels.
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>>126279396
You dont even know what it talks about without googling it
and thats not an argument
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>>126270420
/thread
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>>126279026
>/pol/ is filled with delusional lithuanians
Ye this place is finished.
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>>126270091
KJV is for LARPing autists.

Just go with NIV or whatever the Catholics are reading.
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>>126279560
If your american or canadian catholic if your stuck in russia orthodox
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>>126279153
Show me the unbroken lineage scripture
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>>126279449
Mormons deny the divinity of Christ and believe weird shit like that they'll all become gods themselves, going directly against God being the only God, all on the word of one dickhead named Joseph Smith, whose word is, apparently, his bond.
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>>126279267
No, the onyl ones that could are

1. Catholics
2. Orthodox
3. Coptics

Mormons have zero chance. It's literally low quality fanfiction.
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>>126279712
61 ¶ And of the children of the priests: the children of Habaiah, the children of Koz, the children of Barzillai; which took a wife of the daughters of Barzillai the Gileadite, and was called after their name:

62 These sought their register among those that were reckoned by genealogy, but they were not found: therefore were they, as polluted, put from the priesthood.

Ezra 2
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>>126270639

>hates the jews
>catholics are cool though

Fuck off papist.
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>>126279712
"The Church shall not pass away"

If there is no unbroken lineage, then the church passed away at some point. There is no way around this. Either there is an unbroken line of the church, or the church passed away.
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>>126279771
What are you talking about, Christ is Divine, he is God, Jehovah? Also Exaltation is alluded to everywhere.
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>>126279897
what verse is that bud?
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>>126279801
Youre quoting old testament scripture to structure Christian churches?
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>>126270420
http://www.chick.com/ask/articles/nkjv.asp
Nkjv is a shit.

>>126270639
Kjv didn't have books removed, Catholics had books added that they found conveniently in their library.
Also (((coincidentally))) is kike positive and reinforces the superiority of catholics vs. Protestants.
In other words the Catholic faith has been corrupted with propaganda, straight from the hands of politically inclined kikes.
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>>126279912
Anyone else got any other weird non-biblical shit mormons believe that's just as goofy as each of them becoming a god?
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>>126279396
>restoration
>clarified baptism and trinity bullshit that tore apart the early church
>Clarified theodicy very nicely by plainly restating the reasons we are on earth, and why free will is so important.

>Members prepare for happening
>Encourages members to breed.

woke AF tbqh fampai.
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>>126280003
Priesthood is immutable, has been the same forever, just like God. If the authority of God can change then God is an impartial God, changing, and is therefore not perfect.
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>>126279151
>learn greek and hebrew lol
Most people cant even fucking read, let alone learn 2 languages as an adult. You will never be fluent in Greek, and thinking you will be just prives that you are a fool. 2 years of Greek in seminary school doesnt make you fluent in Greek.

Did you know that Goy Fawkes was a satamic Catholic Jesuit, and the Catholics have been sladering real Christians for eons because they refuse to gib shekels to the pope?
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>>126270366
This is correct. Spent my late twenties and early thirties studying the original texts. NASB is the most accurate. However the KJV is also spot on. The NKJV is nearly identical to the NASB and much easier to find. The NIV is horrible. Just an old guy's opinion.
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>>126279414
See
>>126273490
>>126274594
The guy is scum.
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>>126279897
The church is made up of all believers.
Maybe you should learn to read English, Paco, you filthy catholic heretic?
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>>126279999
"And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it."

Matthew 16:18

If the church were to ever perish, hell would have triumphed over it. That Christ himself says this will not happen, assures us that the Church has never fallen. Therefore, it must be a church which has always existed.
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>>126280182
Thats ridiculous, youre suggesting we have to follow all the old Jewish laws.
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all bibles suffer from what used to be called 'paraphrase,' which is restructuring an expression in the new language so that it's easier to understand

'metaphrase,' which is the process of translating one word at a time, as accurately as possible, no matter how weird the expression sounds in the new language, is always going to be drastically superior, for the simple reason that any secondary or tertiary meanings within the expression can be more easily understood, without needing someone to explain it to you

The 1611 version of the KJV is the closest version to a metaphrase, which is precisely why it is considered superior to the 'easier' versions
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>>126280522
>the church is made up of all believers.

Except that there were no protestants, or any one that believed anything similar to the Sola's, at any point before the Reformation. Even if one takes the all believers formulation, it still does not allow for protestantism.

Also, still not a cathcuck, or a spic.
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>>126279897
PAPISTS BTFO BY PETER HIMSELF THAT THEY CLAIM IS THE FIRST POPE

>To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious, Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

>Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

>Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

>And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

>But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

>Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul; Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation.
1 Peter 2

>MUH APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION
>MUH PETER IS THE ROCK WHICH THE ONE TRUE CHURCH IS BUILT UPON

Catholics dont even read the Bible, and this is proof.
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>>126280803
No, Christ fulfilled the mosaic law, so no, however priesthood is not part of the mosaic law.
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>>126270091
What ever you do DON'T read the King James Bible because they have added a lot of untrutful and political stuff like for example that God told Abrahams son that they are supposed to create ISrael which is not true due to the fact that according to the Torah Jews ARE NOT allowed to have lands. King James is a UK-biased bullshit bible just like the british people.
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>>126280776
See
>>126280952
Absolutely and unequivocally BTFO forever.

Learn to read, papist.
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>>126280952
Nothing in that in any way argues against the papacy, nor am I a cathcuck.

Learn to read.
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you need to learn to divide the church, the wife of christ, the bride of christ, and the nation of israel (white people, not jews)

these are 4 different things, and different prophecies apply to each one

certainly there is a lot of overlap, but spiritually they are not precisely the same
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>>126281050
>posts a scripture that in no way changes anything that's been said
>HURR DURR BTFO

Protestants are a cancer that has lead to the death of the church. There was nothing immoral about the Cathcucks purging you, excepting that it should have been done more passionately.
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Im out mates, seek truth and christ, fun discussion senpai

heres this if you want to see what mormons use for scripure

https://www.lds.org/scriptures/tg?lang=eng
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>>126281080
>>126281179
The ROCK is our FAITH, you Catholic devils.

Seriously, youre not even saved.
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>>126281024
>(((due to the fact that according to the Torah)))
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>>126281255
No one was arguing about the rock, you retard.

That literally has nothing to do with the discussion we were having.
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>>126281255
Being saved the baptist way is a lazy mans version of confirmation
The baptist is the lazy mans christianity.
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God WILL NOT revoke salvation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKKWjNWPtQc
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>>126280985
Catholic clergy structure doesnt resemble old Jewish structure at all
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>>126281609
he is mormon pay attention
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>>126280776


Peter big misinterpretation of that passage. Jesus asks Peter who does he think he is, as some jews claimed he was Elijah, but Peter says "you are the Christ, the son of the living God" and it's on this statement which points to Peter's faith, that Jesus says the church will be built on. augustine himself states this aswell as other church fathers.all throughout the new testament,Grace alone through faith is preached for salvation. not apostolic succession or the passing of an office. yet Catholics will point to this passage as evidence. so the true church of Christ are those who believe in the true gospel message. the term Catholic was introduced by Ignatius in describing the universal call of the gospel to all nation's and he uses it to describe the true church of Christ, not the church the Roman Catholic has given you. today Catholic is synonymous with the dogmas and doctrines of the Roman Catholic church introduced later at the council of Trent and Vatican 1 in the 15th century.
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>>126270091
Only catholics and orthodox can DEUS VULT!!!!!
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>>126281463
>in order to get to heaven you need to give the pope 10% of your shekels and lick his toe and treat him like a king in earth
The pope is an antichrist, which the Catholics call the Vicar of Christ. He's the pseudochristos, the replacement for Christ on earth.

Literally an antichrist by the very definition of the word.

Explain why people kneel before the pope and koss his ring, when Peter himself rebuked people for kneeling before him...
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>>126270091
The Catholic church is the only true church. It was created by Jesus Christ with Saint Peter as the first pope, all of this is said in the bible.
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>>126270420
Missing books and protestantism is fake overall.

"muh faith alone"

>Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
- James 2:24 - King James Version (KJV)
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>>126281179
The church refers to the believers ( body) of Christ. The whole point of Jesus coming to earth and dying for us was to pay for our sins and redeem us. Now we can pray to God in His name and speak directly to Him. The Catholic practice of confession and the idea of a Pope is entirely unbiblical.
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Former fundamentalist KJV-only Baptist converting to Catholicism here. Please pray for me Catholic brothers.
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>>126281790
First of all, Jesus literally renamed Peter to PETER, or Petra, which is literally rock.

Second, again, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY POINT AT ALL.

Salvation by faith alone is not taught by a single person for 1600 years. Objectively, this means that for 1600 years, there were no believers in it, and therefore the gates of hell triumphed over the church, and over such belief. If this is the actual meaning of the passage, then ALL of Christianity is wrong, because Jesus was wrong. Either, this passage does not mean that, or, Christianity is a false religion. There are no ways around this. There was no secret church of believers in sola fida. There was no post-enlightenment protestant interpretation of scripture during those 1600 years.

This interpretation is either wrong, or disproves Christianity. It cannot prove Protestantism.
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Hitler chose Catholicism. Case closed.
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>>126282041
note how the catholic recoils preemptively at salvation by faith
many catholics do not even believe, choosing instead to bet their salvation on works
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You're average Protestant cuck church:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFv5ijz6s6A
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>>126281951
See
>>126280952
You are taking a single line out of context. He is asking a question there. If you actually read James 2, you will unserstand that he is talking about showing others how to keep the faith.

It has nothing to do with actually saying you must do good works to be saved.

Tell me about all those good works the thief on the cross did...
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The version of the bible doesn't matter that much as long as you pray for the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Scripture can only be properly understood and interpreted through the gift of the Holy Spirit, so focus on gaining a relationship with your Heavenly Father, the Holy Spirit, and Jesus Christ.

That said, I prefer King James, but I think you should study scripture deeply enough to learn about some of the disputed passages, and you should seek to have the resources available to cross-check translations with the original languages and sources whenever you find a passage you find difficult to understand. Also, reading commentaries can help clear up confusion (though sometimes it can make it worse). Best of all is to combine your scripture studies with prayer, so that you can pray and meditate on any passages that are difficult, and you can ask for guidance from the Holy Spirit, "for every one who asketh receiveth" (matt 7:8) and "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him." (james 1:5)
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>>126282238
Hitler is currently burning in Hell with Mohammed the false prophet.

You disgust me.
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>>126282356
"Don't worry about repenting, ancient Germanic pagans. All you need to do is believe Jesus is God's Son and you'll automatically be granted everlasting life! Isn't that awesome?"
-Things St. Boniface Never Said.
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>>126282543
Nice try kike.
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>>126282581
Repent means a lot of things other than sins.
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>>126282216

Your point? you had no point ? it was muh saint peter matthew 16:18

Here a quote from the guy who wrote catholic in his letters the first time

>Ignatius, who is also called Theophorus, to the Church of God the Father, and of the Lord Jesus Christ, which is at Philadelphia, which has obtained mercy through love, and is established in the harmony of God, and rejoiceth unceasingly, in the passion of our Lord Jesus, and is filled with all mercy through His resurrection; which I salute in the blood of Jesus Christ, who is our eternal and enduring joy, especially to those who are in unity with the bishop, and the presbyters, and the deacons, who have been appointed by the will of God the Father, through the Lord Jesus Christ, who, according to His own will, has firmly established His Church upon a rock, by a spiritual building, not made with hands, against which the winds and the floods have beaten, yet have not been able to overthrow it: yea, and may spiritual wickedness never be able to do so, but be thoroughly weakened by the power of Jesus Christ our Lord.

>spiritual building, not made with hands,
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>>126282581
faith in Jesus' sacrifice is the key to salvation and requires both an acknowledgment of one's sinful nature and Jesus' divine nature
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>>126282511
Best answer in the thread.
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>>126282638
>For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.

>Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

>Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Hitler molested his niece which culminated in her suicide.

Hitler ate a 9mm aspirin and is burning in Hell as I type this.

How does this make you feel?
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>>126282116
Why would you start worshipping idols and eating the flesh of Jesus when you were already on the right track to Heaven? I'd pray for God to have mercy on your soul but if I'm honest with myself I hope (and know) that He won't.
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>>126282742
Saint Patrick: "Come gather round now, Celtic Pagans. I've come bearing the Gospel of Jesus Christ which will give you everlasting life! I'm going to tell you the way to escape God's wrath and have your sins forgiven! Ok here it is! Are you ready? It's really interesting!"

Pagans: "Yes please tell us we want to be forgiven!"

Saint Patrick: "Heh, just believe in Jesus. That's all you gotta do. Don't worry about being holy, just give intellectual assent to Jesus and you're magically wiped clean...Even if you don't repent at all!"

~~Things Protestants actually believe~~
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>>126282760
>if I just ignore your point and substitute my strawman, I win

Protestants can't engage in any reasonable discussion. You only have poorly understood copy pasta.

I will make this simple for you:
P1: No one believed in sola fida for 1600 years
P2: Jesus said that the gates of hell will not prevail over the church
P3: Jesus cannot be wrong, or Christianity is false
P4: Sola fida is the belief that defines the believers that make up the body of the church
P5: P4 must be true for protestantism to be true.

Therefore, either:

C1: Christianity is false
C2: P4 is false.

those are your only options.
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>>126282216
>Salvation by faith alone is not taught by a single person for 1600 years. Objectively, this means that for 1600 years, there were no believers in it, and therefore the gates of hell triumphed over the church, and over such belief. If this is the actual meaning of the passage, then ALL of Christianity is wrong, because Jesus was wrong. Either, this passage does not mean that, or, Christianity is a false religion. There are no ways around this. There was no secret church of believers in sola fida. There was no post-enlightenment protestant interpretation of scripture during those 1600 years.


>second, again, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY POINT AT ALL.

Talk about going offtopic the topic was muh saint peter
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>>126282775
Saint Boniface: "Oops, scratch that...Just acknowledge that you're a sinner and acknowledge that Jesus is God's Son and you'll be saved! No worries with repenting or confessing or praying heh just believe and receive! Name it and claim it! Aquire the fire!"

Germanic Pagans: "HALLELUJAH! I BELIEVE!!" *Proceeds to gibber in tongues.*
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>>126283122
Nice proxy, seminary brit.
Are you going to start spamming your anime porn soon? :^)
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>>126283001
I looked at the early church fathers and literally every single one of them believed in purgatory and praying to the saints...and when I realized that the early church looked nothing like my church and the early christians looked nothing like me, I decided to fix that and my research lead me to the Traditional SSPX/FSSP Catholic Church with the Latin Mass.
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>>126283187
No, it wasn't. That was never the topic. The topic was unbroken lineage. It never had to be just Peter, it simply has to be from one or more of the apostles. As I have said several times now, despite you protestants ignoring it because it leaves you utterly incapable of defending your point, I am not a Catholic, and am not defending the modern papacy or their theology.
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>>126270091
Stop being Protestant
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>>126283345
Fucking who?
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>>126283018
This is what you believe, you baby raping, p*pe calling, h*il Mary shouting, Old Testament ignoring heretic! Not only that, you believe that if you pay the one you call the p*pe you go to Heaven, despite doing all the unchristian things imaginable! And that purgatory exists (it doesn't) and that non christians go to Heaven (they don't) and that animals have souls (they don't)
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>>126272230
>LIES
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>>126282638
Still according to the Bible Christ was the last prophet so Mohammed is considered a false prophet.
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>>126283360
What in the fuck? Why would you believe what the founders of the satanic idol whoreshipping church believes in? Read Romans 8:1 for proof that purgatory DOESN'T exist!
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>>126282951
>Hitler molested his niece which culminated in her suicide.
Lol good goy.
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>>126283212
>ignoring romans 3
just like the rest of the bible
you can't argue with scripture since you were never taught any, so all you have are strawmen
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>>126276325
lol ur trolling btfo
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>>126283212
>>126283360
The fact that you are a sneaky lying British seminary sperglord who has spammed every Christian thread with "Eucharist" and "Church Fathers" schizophrenia for the past 9 months, usually accompanied by your anime degeneracy, shews how wicked and deceptive and unsaved your soul is.

Pepperidge Farm remembers the time you told pol about the protestant girl that told you to kick rocks that you were beta-orbiting around, and how much you hrew to hate protestants after being removed from the friendzone entirely.

You alwaus have several proxies because mods ban you for spam often.
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>>126283746
Purgatory isn't condemnation lol that's Hell.
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>>126278904
god is a fabrication of the human mind created to deal with the lack of knowledge about death and after death scenarios
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>>126283122
>No one believed in sola fida for 1600 years

citation needed

the catholics killed a whole bunch who did not agree with them there must have been sect who believed in sola fide

misinterpretation the church is spirutual, saying that jesus made the catholic church the true church is nuts and you dont understand the bible . you deny free will and you deny what happend to the jews can also happen to others .... but muh saint peter
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>>126283654
Of course. I do not deny that. Muhammad was a schizo.
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>>126283654
1 Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul.

32 And Judas and Silas, being prophets also themselves, exhorted the brethren with many words, and confirmed them.

10 And as we tarried there many days, there came down from Judæa a certain prophet, named Agabus.
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>>126283746
I've been coming into these threads for a while now. Now that I've looked at most of this guy's posts I've deduced he's the insane saint-worshipper that has shown up in the last few.
>>126283871
apparently this guy knows more about him than me
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>>126283871
I'm not a British seminarian lol I'm not even confirmed Catholic yet. Still in RCIA.
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>>126270091

I wish I knew for sure. I'd say start with the KJV. After that keep moving to more original texts, as far back as you can.
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>>126284057
Then it appears that our efforts are wasted, he's too far gone to be saved. Let the filthy heretic choose aeternal damnation. Maybe his degenerate saint worshipping soul craves that.
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>>126283369

no no no it wasnt ... fucking idiot
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>>126284129
>im not even a catholic lol
We know, youre even worse, and Anglican cuck.

Pic related, youre one step ahead of the Catholics.
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>>126270091
Direct Word of God inspiration narration.

>When you know the bible without reading it because it has been imparted unto you in your quest.
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>>126284264
>aeternal
There's no a in eternal.
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>>126284382
Anglicans burn in hell, but catholics are higher on the heretic scale.
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>>126270091
Bible is a collection of kikish tales, collected specially for goys. It cannot be based
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>>126270091
The book of mormon is the most recent translation of the bible. Joseph smith is the heavenly father's last prophet and thru him god fixed the translation errors from the other bible versions
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>>126284692
What the fuck? Jesus is the last Prophet you stupid hellbound heathen.
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>>126273570
This
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>>126284798
see >>126284032
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>>126270366
This.
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>>126284607
Protestants are worse
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>>126284692
The Book of Mormon isn't a translation of the bible, though. It's a completely separate book. There is the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible, which is pretty incomplete so a whole copy would be mostly just the KJV with some changes.

Also, Mormons do not believe that Joseph Smith was the last prophet, since we believe we have a prophet today (Thomas S. Monson) and that there has been an unbroken line of prophets since Joseph Smith to the modern day.
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>>126284692
What Mormons believe :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGFAph3lWqw

Mormon Jesus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46PXaJxzuDE

>>126284798
The Last Prophet is a heretical doctrine to state that Jesus was a Prophet and the Messiah has not come to bring Salvation.
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>>126274212
Agreed
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>>126273914
*trespasses
*as we forgive those who trespassed against us.
*from evil amen
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mormons are heretical cause they say Christ is like Man We are like them they do not need to procreate they fashioned us like we fashion a knot.
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And THEM is SINGULAR

Wrap your head around that one mortals.
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> version

Christcucks... tsk
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>>126285393
Those cartoons remind me of those people saying that Christianity is just about worshiping a "dead jew on a stick." There's some truth in it, but only in a totally distorted and reductionist way of thinking.

Covered decently well point-by-point here:
https://www.fairmormon.org/answers/Criticism_of_Mormonism/Video/The_God_Makers/Cartoon
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Council of Nicea
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The duoay rheims version is the patrician choice.

As traditional as you can get
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>>126285947
You know Sodom and Gammorah where only 2 of the 5 cities destroyed one of the other cities described scientology mormonism worship of Star Gods.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBSIs2bHi5g

>Im not criticizing I am telling you to repent or face eternal damnation.
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>>126285947
do you go to BYU
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>>126270091
the bible is the bible. the only differences are translations. I personally like the concordance version because it reads well and it gives you a feeling of history where there is none anymore.
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>>126284013
There isn't

We know this because there is ZERO evidence and mention of them

The funny thing is, it is the GNOSTICS who are protestant
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>>126286152
No. Hello, though, brother.

>>126286122
>one of the other cities described scientology mormonism worship of Star Gods.
what evidence of this is there?

I really do recommend you read that fairmormon article, though. Or this: https://www.fairmormon.org/answers/MormonFAQ/Myths_and_Questions

You seem to have some fundamental misunderstandings about the LDS Church.
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>>126284798
John the baptist was the last prophet. Jesus is the Son of God. All you calling him a prophet are lost.
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If Mormons where Honest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VKT4hrBTuk

>>126286525
Start being honest with yourself and other people You will never be My God.
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new begginings for the humanity :)
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Also stop abusing children in your temples or face demons in the waking world.

http://religionnews.com/2016/02/02/mormon-statement-on-child-abuse-move-along-folks-we-dont-have-a-problem/


Mormons are a satanic cult of unpiety.
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>>126286591
No, exaltation allows YOU and ME, as God's Child, to become like him, however he will still be your God, the Father. We will be equals, under our Father, as brothers.
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>>126279052
Why is God a jealous God? I've never understood it. It seems like such a petty human emotion for the creator of everything.
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>>126286785
He is jealous because he loves you, Jehovah is our elder brother Jesus. He loves you so much, and knows that by bowing down to a piece of earth that you condemn yourself, Jesus is VERY emotional, Jesus wept.
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>>126286766
I don't have the balls to call myself akin to the One and Only God the Alpha and Omega the Supreme Being.

But I sure as fuck have the balls to deal with your entire church in a manner fitting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSjaEHoi1_c
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>>126286968
You are not equal to God, you are nothing right now. However, you can become like him, why do you think God commands us to be like him if we are not suppose to be preparing to become like him?
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>>126287088
Bit presumptuous of me to even know where I would begin as a God after all I am not a God because I don't want to be I want to be Me in Gods story not barge into his ethereal Cabin and scatter his cats about and ruin his game of solitaire.

Who the fuck do you think you are? I will tell you a Dead man.

https://youtu.be/0i3Aa9NlxCk
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>>126286968
God is your Heavenly Father. He created you in His image. He is the one who told you that you are "akin" to him. Christ came and lived a perfect human life, and instructed us to follow him, to be like him, and to take the name of Christ upon ourselves.

We, beings created in the image of God, were literally given the instruction to become Christ-like and to take the name of Christ upon ourselves. This is scripture.

You and I aren't anything special right now, but throughout the vast aeons of eternal progression, we become closer and closer to God and become more and more Christ-like. That doesn't mean you will surpass God or even approach equality with God the Father.
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>>126287188
Define Damnation please.
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>>126286567
What would you call the Two Witnesses of Revelation?
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>>126287314
No Shit but you twisted my usage of the word akin.

Sure we are family with God but we are NOT the same.

And Frankly preparing to become a God makes fuck all sense if you know what the word God Means.

>it is a Title you little shits.

>>126287397
Me collecting your DNA and forcing you to live forever as my pawn as I send you into strange dimensions and locations to do the Work of God.

I'll keep the station God has given me thank you very much I am not going to go ahead and try and take his Job.

>Mormons the religion of people that want God's Job and livelyhood.
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>>126287528
>Not understanding Mormon doctrine and arguing against it
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Imagine being a supreme being for a moment and a creature you made comes up and says "Alright you fucker time to give me your Job"

Hilarious.
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>>126287674
Take acid fuck children in temples and pray to Idols blaspheme God.

Nah I got it.
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>>126287675
That's not even close. You are the offspring of God (Acts 17). What does offspring do? Become like its parents. A job isn't being taken, a Job is being created, just as you were created.
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>meanwhile at Mormon Homes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2CDzMtIk0U
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>>126287528
As I noted before, things like "preparing to become a God" are only accurate descriptors of Mormonism in the way "worshiping a dead jew on a stick" is an accurate description of broader Christianity. Only true in the most base and ridiculous sense, while discarding or ignoring the genuine spirit of the religion itself.

>>126287675
>>126287723
It's amazing how little you understand what we're talking about. I'm sorry you wish to be willfully ignorant. I'll pray for you, friend. I would also accept your prayers for me, if you truly feel I'm damned somehow. God will guide us each to truth.
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>>126287903
>Manufacturing an Ideal Job for yourself and not doing the one you where given to do by God.

Uh-huh

Just so we are on the same page I see mormons as satanic beasts.
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>>126288028
>HURRR WHY WOULD YOU LET YOUR KIDS HAVE KIDS IF YOU CAN HAVE KIDS?
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>>126287953

Mormons are in a congregation they have temples and palaces and other such blasphemous structures that where not sanctioned by God.
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>>126288186
>implying to know the will of god
you must be a prophet
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>>126288184
see this is half my problem with mormons most of your doctrine is predisposed to "eternal sex"

God doesn't need a mate he can just magic up humans at will.

See how incredibly insulting mormons are to God by limiting his power because their brains are too small to comprehend his majesty.

And entirely ignore God's explanation of why we are like him and our purposes for eternity in Heaven spent with him.

They think its like Heaven's Gate Gods gunna pick us up in a spaceship and we are gunna have duties for God.

That shit is like equating God to a handicapped fool that you would speak for God.

God tells me to smite Mormons in the face.
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>>126288272
Sure if you like that word.
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>>126288356
Friend, I hope one day you come to realize the sheer amount of Satanic propaganda you have absorbed about Mormons. I will pray for you that Satan will not deceive you from the True Church much longer.

I recommend you pick up some primary sources instead of just believing whatever some cartoons on youtube tell you. All source material for the LDS church is available freely on lds.org, including all the conference talks by general authorities and the recorded teachings of the past presidents of the church back to Joseph Smith. You can even easily find Joseph Smith's private journals at the Joseph Smith Papers website. This stuff isn't hidden or secret. You can look up what we actually believe any time you want.

Or, you know, keep believing Satanic youtube propaganda. Whatever you want. That's what your free agency is for.
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>>126288750
The Propaganda you speak of as given out of inspiration so you are literally calling the word of God blasphemy against God....

I hope you realize the longer you wind on your post the more and more it becomes unbelievable and even possible you are being manipulated as you lie and lie in your extenuated speech that is easily transcribed by any good investigator.

Don't commit crimes you'll fail spectacularly.

You should instead heed this guy.

>>126288272

Bow Down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXFhqG8G5uI
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