Weedfags will defend this

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You actually think weed does that. God your fucking dumb

Why the fuck did this mexican do this

>>126264813
he was smokin the mary-j, decided maryjaneson wasn't doing it enough for him and laced it with some other shit

you're* fucking dumb if you don't think weedfags will get bored of their normie high and lace it with shit.

>>126264943
He smoked marijuana then got possessed by the devil

>>126265509
more like he smoked marijuana and proceeded to run some people over like a crazed islamic jihadist

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>>126264466

To be fair, he wasn't high on marijuana, but 'spice', a form of synthetic marijuana that is ACTUALLY bad for you, physically and mentally.

>>126264466

is there video of this?

>>126264466
*WHEEZES PROFUSELY*
Heh, it's alllllllllllllllriiiiiiiight bro, just try it!
*COUGHS UP BLOOD*
It'll--
*STARTS VIOLENTLY SHAKING*
make you cool man!

>>126264466
>Islam should be lega-
>Spics should be lega-

>not banning every form of enjoyment except for killing minorities

are you even a nazi?

Why are there so many spic muslims?
The guy that shot up an airport last year was a muslim spic, what's up with that?

>>126264466

>ex-marine with psych probs

>pcp in system

Yeah OP, use this to attack pot.

>>126264466
Can anyone give me a quick rundown on what the White Hispanic in the image is doing?

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>>126264971
>unironically thinks that weed is a gateway drug

>>126266769
i told you weedcucks would defend this

>>126266902
it was in this instance, many such cases

people mix shit into alcohol all the time at my uni too so its not surprising when they drink themselves to death

>>126264466

ALCOHOL KILLS MORE PEOPLE THAN WEED.
LEGALIZE IT

>>126264466
>implying this isn't what happens to white people when they get drunk
why do we let white people drive again?

>>126266902
It does. Knew some mexicans way back in middle school, they started smoking weed, then pills, then some of them dropped out in high school.

>>126264971
You ever heard of spice? Something that is sold in local convenient stores. The drug war causes big pharma and drug dealers to create shit so they can sell it legally. I live in florida and i can tell you that most people here are doing xanxs and recently they created a type of xanx thats like 3x stronger and its all ready killed Like 9 people. You gotta realize pills are pretty fucking easy to get your hands on. Ive seen people break there own fucking limbs on purpose so they can get a pain killer prescription.

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>>126264466

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>>126264466
>refugees should be welcom-

>>126265509
That sounds more like Salvia tbqhphamalam

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>>126267793

>>126264466
The counterargument to this is so obvious, I can't believe you didn't address this in your OP. You can make weed legal without legalizing the operation of heavy machinery while high on weed.

>>126264466
ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

>>126264943
"Voices"

what happened??????????

>>126264466
he didnt smoke weed, he smoked a smokable manmade compound that people say is "like weed" but it is definitely not like weed, and there are many different versions of these "research chemicals" all of which are totally fucked

>>126264466
that pic looks like it was photoshopped

>>126264971
um sorry spics and niggers have been smoking PCP in weed for decades now and its not because the weed isnt working, its just hard to smoke dust without something to thicken it out a bit.
>>126267266
>mexicans
occams razor anon.

>>126267793
>>126267868
very nice, what will you call this meme

>>126264813
Up

Voat!

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>>126269487
>very nice, what will you call this meme

that's for trips to decide.

>>126267365
>You ever heard of spice
Superhuman like abilities in exchange for a fatal withdrawal? I think I'll pass

>>126264971
More likely he was injecting it

>>126264466
It wasn't pot, you dumb nigger. It was synthetic, legal garbage- if he could have gotten real pot legally it may have helped him control his murderous urges

>>126272314
It's all over when you start injecting the marijuana...

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Explaining government to niggers...

>>126268608
We let spics and niggers in our country.

>>126272783
lol

>>126272783
fairly accurate

>>126264466
>implying the root cause was weed and not a shitskin immigrant in a first world country

fucking idiot.

>>126273366
3366
looks like i'm 100% correct.

We do need to ban marijuana though.

>>126273506
>id: REE
ahaha

>>126266638
So you mean killing whites? You do realize whites under the age of 5 are a minority now right?

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>>126264466
checked.

weed been legal for ages here, never seen a riot, a violent crime, or a Mexican.

blaming this on weed, not kikes. baka.

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>>126274895

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>>126275415

>>126264466
Is booze is legal so should be pot
Is pot is illegal so should be booze
Simple as that
They are both unnecessary

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1488
REEEEEEEEEEE

>>126264971
>he was drinking the alcohol, decided wodka wasn't doing it enough for him and laced it with some other shit
>you're* fucking dumb if you don't think beerfags will get bored of their normie high and lace it with shit.
see how retarded you sound.

but all forms of high are degeneracy.

>>126266206
what's happening here?

>>126264466
He smoked Chinese chemicals sprinkled on regular leaves

>>126264466
fake news

>>126266526
yeah i saw that bill cosby special too

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>>126275644

checked

>>126267365
That's what's he was smoking

>>126275687
Looks like a guy trying to inhale from a fog machine. I work in special effects, and breathe this shit all the time. This guy is a pussy.

>>126264813
Are you fucking stupid? Try getting high and driving, and come back and tell me that it doesn't do that.

>>126272783
can someone explain

>>126277749
I drove around stoned for about 3 years. Never had any problems

>>126264466

>They also described him as emotionally disturbed. Rojas passed a breathalyzer test, but an initial test came up positive for PCP and marijuana. A source tells CBS News the suspect claimed to have heard voices, wanted to die, and did it for god.

>A week ago, Rojas was arrested and charged with pointing a knife at a notary, whom he accused of stealing his identity. He pleaded guilty to a harassment violation.

>In previous arrests, he told authorities he believed he was being harassed and followed, one of the law enforcement officials said.

this nigger was on the special cia drug program

>>126277968
or, y'know
a regular junkie fruitcake

>>126277749
lol I do that all the time. check out some studies on it, faggot, because marijuana use increases the odds of a crash by about as much as penicilin

>>126277889
I did plenty of times when i was younger, never saw the old man drive sober, he's never lost any points or crashed and my only crash has been sober.

>>126264466
Textbook reefer madness, I also had my run inside with the law when I had reefer madness. Same with the guy that killed Chris Kyle.

Reefer madness is real folks. I am living proof.

>>126277835
His joint is full of stems and seeds. Stems and seeds are crap, they taste horrible and have almost no THC. Stoners wanna smoke the flower of the plant.

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>>126278121
I dunno maybe, but it all feels very similar to this guy.

>>126264466
This man was not under the influence of Marijuana. He was under the influence of 'spice', a legal substance. Spice does not contain any of the same chemicals as Marijuana. Spice is marketed as synthetic weed, although again, it has nothing in common with weed. It is designed to placate idiots who are incapable of finding a weed dealer who trusts their judgement to be discreet and not get caught.

Junkies should be put out like feral animals to make the world a better place

>>126278540
can i get a rundown on that?

>>126277968
it is possible, or like >>126278121 says the average druggy. both versions are probable

Weed never hurt anybody

>>126272783
That is the most god awful joint i have ever seen in my life. He's gonna hack up a lung smoking all those stems and seeds!

>>126275681
Says you. Marijuana is therapudic as fuck.

>>126272783

this picture angers me

>>126264466
yfw /pol/ has turned into Christian Mom's Facebook.

>>126279315
>Esteban Santiago-Ruiz is believed to be the gunman in the Fort Lauderdale airport shooting, which left at least five people dead and eight wounded on Friday. Early indications point to a man with psychiatric problems. There does not appear to be any known connections to terrorist groups.

>The FBI confirmed that in Nov. 2016, Santiago-Ruiz walked into an FBI office in Anchorage and claimed his mind was being controlled by a U.S. intelligence agency and that he was being forced to watch videos for ISIS. He was sent to a psychiatric hospital after police were called, sources said.

>The Pentagon told the Associated Press that Santiago had gone AWOL several times during his stint with the Alaska National Guard and was demoted - from specialist to private first class - and given a general discharge, which is lower than an honorable discharge.

Here some things I found interesting

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Some OC I made for this tragic event.

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>>126282875

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>>126264466
>"People" actually say this, please tell us moar about your life experiences....
Frigg off Randy

>>126267184
never heard someone say many such cases besides trump. you fucking parrot

The spice expands consciousness.

>>126282875
i have a fetish for when that happens with women

>>126264466
Weed dindu nuthin he a good plant

>>126277668

lol, you're a carny.

loser.

>>126272783
ive fucking seen my dealer ignoring like tons of seeds popping out, as he pops out my shit dirt bag short, 2 grams

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>>126278540
yea, both looks like a kikey

DANCING QUEEN
DANCING TO ANYTHING THE DJ FEEL RIGHT

DANCING QUEEN
DANCING TO EVERYTHING BECAUSE I'M HOT TONIGHT

>>126264466
>Weedfags will defend this
What is "this" anyway? A picture of a retard running down the street? Context, faggot.

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>>126282875
>Some OC I made for this tragic event.

top kek. here's some of my own based on yours

>>126286951
nice

>>126282748
does indeed sound the same minus the drugs

>>126282875
Thats shit

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>it's a prank bro!

>>126275687
His house is getting fumigated

>>126287814
Holy fuck first time I saw the compilation from the multiple cams

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This is that synthetic shit, not real weed.

This is stuff coming in from shithole labs from places like China. It has been chemically modified to who knows what strength and has all kinds of new effects.

I don't even like regular weed, but I for it being legal. This trash needs to be refulated to oblivion. It is unnatural, from unknown sources, and dangerous.

My barber has been sober for decades. He said the old hippy weed he smoked is nothing compared to the streonger strains of natural weed kids today smoke. It is even worse when they "vape" it.

And synthetic weed is much much much worse than that.

Protect the green. Avoid this synthetic made stuff.

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>>126288264
>Avoid this synthetic made stuff.

I have a massive addiction to spice (synthetic weed) and I have to admit I drive on it. I smoke it every fucking five minutes so I'm always loading a pipe in the car which is basically like texting and driving. My tolerance is high so I've never plowed into a sidewalk or anything but yeah you never know how strong new stuff is going to be. I've OD'd on it and I probably shouldn't be alive.

Insurance won't cover any rehab for it, and it's statistically tougher to quit than heroin. The shitty part is, I only started doing it because my parents hated weed and every job drug tests you for evil nasty marijuana. I literally fucking hate this shit, I FAR preferred weed and marijuana didn't fuck up my life until my bitch neighbor called the cops on me for smoking it in my own apartment.

This is the fault of the anti-weed people, as are all synthetic marijuana based incidents. Blame the conservatives if I go on a knife-weilding, spice induced rampage. All I wanted to do was eat a cheeseburger and watch Family Guy, but you couldn't have that.

YOU MADE A CHOICE.

>>126288676
How do you get it?

>Rojas “exhibited signs [of the drug] PCP,” another high-ranking police source said.

>>126277749
I deliver for dominos and I'm high every night

I only usually get the urge to run over pedestrians when I'm sober

>>126264466
>>126267868
>>126270241
>>126274895
>>126275332
>>126275415
>>126275553
>>126275644
>>126286951

Someone pls make one where he's a giant destroying the WTC or Tokyo

>>126288978

To be honest I'm surprised they are trying to bring up that he played GTA for hours on end and it was the game that made him do it

>>126288850

It's sold at a convenience store in my area. It's technically legal, but they keep it kind of hush-hush and behind the counter.

More places used to sell it, but some 14 year old kid died in the midwest and then government starts to act. The state legislators ban a certain ingredient from being used, but the manufacturers just use something else, seems like a good chemist can always find a loophole. The irony of it is, when these chemicals weren't banned and the stuff was stronger, it was essentially dirt cheap, a small hit of the stuff would have you high for an hour or two, and it wasn't physically addictive. Now it's much weaker, way more addictive, and I've sunk thousands of dollars into my habit chasing that high. Like heroin, it's not so much fun to do as it is shitty to come off of, so you keep using it.

I suspect there might be some lobbying going on. Oh, and since it's a legal product (and this is the best part) the state I live in makes TAX REVENUE off of every bag I buy.

>>126277749

Confirmed for never having smoked pot and taking the reefer madness bluepill. Don't drink the kool-aid /pol/, you're smarter than this.

I drive like a little old lady when I'm stoned, I'm safe as fuck.

One day some kid is going to light up a joint during a school shooting because he's suicidal anyway and idiots like this guy will blame the weed and completely ignore the kid's bullying, deteriorating mental health, and easy access to assault weapons.

It's always easier to blame the big green monster than to actually do something useful.

>>126266206
Even worse Spice are a direct consequence from the cannabis ban
> THC is banned
> Scientist crate THC-01
> The molecule is now legal since law only forbid specifically THC
> Law maker ban new molecule
> Mad scientist create THC-02
> Weed is perfectly harmless
> Spice increase chance of heartattack makes people go into mental breakdown
> Cannabis is still illegal
> Spice still bypasses the law
Than...ks i guess

>>126287814
the fuck's wrong with America? that shit would never happen in Aus

>>126290941

Exactly this. Glad mommy and daddy in the government are keeping me safe from the bad weed. They know what's best.

>>126290969

You guys don't have spice?

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>>126289095
>Someone pls make one where he's a giant destroying the WTC or Tokyo

>>126291539
nope, if im not mistaken they sniff gasoline

Pretty sure this wiener of a beaner just decided to go carmageddon and drugs had shit all to do with it.

>>126291539
worse, they have australians

>>126266902
ur either 15 or not experienced with this shit because a majority of the time it does lead to people doing harder drugs you retarded faggot

>>126268421
>You can make weed legal without legalizing the operation of heavy machinery while high on weed
Hey, you know what's already illegal? Running over people on purpose. You have to be braindamaged to think a law against driving while high would have stopped this guy.

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>>126294550
>majority of the time
>22 million users in the past month
>1 million heroin users
>5% assuming literally everyone of those people started with weed intially
>"most of the time"

lol. lemme translate this for you: "i was weak willed, or had shitty ghetto tier friends and they went straight to crack because im literally fucking white trash"

>>126294675
oh my god your right. so would a drunk person, or someone of caffiene. or someone who just misses his girlfriend. shit, better ban all of those!

>>126294916
>oh my god your right. so would a drunk person, or someone of caffiene. or someone who just misses his girlfriend. shit, better ban all of those!
>your
How does that make his "counter-argument" any less retarded?

>>126295266
im sorry, what? your saying if shoelaces could cause you to trip they should be banned? or did you misread me?

>>126295663
You're high on something right now, aren't you? Here's a short reality test for you: show me where I argued anything remotely resembling the content of your vomit-like posts.

>>126295866
>How does that make his "counter-argument" any less retarded?

>>126266788
He is spreading his arms to appear bigger to predators who may be reluctant to attack him. This is a common symptom of injecting the pot

Cannabis isnt harmful at all in any form.

Its actually incredibly healthy if you eat or juice it raw. It doesn't even get you high in that state.

>>126264466
That was spice you (you) baiting retard.

>>126295925
Okay, retard. Now explain how that's related to the retarded strawman you're arguing against, because it doesn't even qualify as a strawman of anything I actually said. You're literally arguing with your own demons, schizo. You don't seem to be able to read and understand my posts.

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>>126264466
Reminder: OP is a troll or a disinfo shill.

>>126264466
It was PPC

>>126296154
you said his counter argument was retarded, his counter argument was that you could make things legal, while making the use of those things while intoxicated, illegal, much like, alcohol, painkillers and various other substances. your arguing that its retarded, so your saying that any substance or anything that impairs you in anyway while driving should be made illegal, like, caffeine, nicotine...

Pot is disgusting and all who defend it are degenerate.

>>126267868
Somebody combine this the roach assassin and the london concerned bystander, NOW!

>>126296923
>his counter argument was that you could make things legal, while making the use of those things while intoxicated, illegal
Yes, and this "counter-argument" is fucking moronic because it doesn't address OP's point in any way, shape or form. This is blatantly evident from the fact that murdering people is already illegal and this guy did it anyway, so making driving while high illegal wouldn't have stopped him either.

>your saying that any substance or anything that impairs you in anyway while driving should be made illegal
Except I wasn't. You're hallucinating things again, you schizophrenic little druggie. Back to lebbit.

>>126297059
You're disgusting and anyone who defends you is degenerate.

>>126298298
Found the butthurt druggie.

>>126298364
Found the (((well poisoner))).

>>126297059
It's a plant that gives you the giggles.

>>126298422
Why can't you people just face the fact that nobody wants to live around stoners and druggies, and that normal people rather pay for your stay in a jail cell than have a whole bunch of you living in their neighborhood?

>>126264466
It was synthetic weed you fucking autist. If they had legalized weed this shit wouldn't have happened.

>>126298564
Bruh, everybody gets high

>>126298722
>everybody gets high
I don't know about your shithole, but around here it's by far not everybody, and those who do are usually concerned enough about getting caught that they tone it down and do it in private settings only. I rather keep it that way.

>>126290969
Melbourne being a disputed border land between Lebanon, Somalia and Greece, with no connection to Australians, I have to agree with you.

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>>126298564
All drugs must be legalized to diminish the nanny state and ghetto funding. Black markets support thugs on the streets, increase federal power, and destroy safe pathways for addicts. Cannabis is overwhelmingly safer than alcohol. It is also far more medicinal than a lot of the exploitative pharma drugs and opioids. I'd rather more people choose cannabis than drive drunk. Your positions cause the very prison economics you claim to be against.

>>126299724
>All drugs must be legalized to diminish the nanny state and ghetto funding.
Talk to me when you're willing to be consistent about "muh freedumbs" and "muh small gubmint". I don't buy into Garry-Johnson-tier lolbertarianism.

>>126277749
I bike high all the time

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>>126300039
You have no argument other than your feelings. Against facts about what the drug war perpetuates, you stated feelings. I don't expect you to ever want a libertarian-right nationalist government compared to your likely theocratic inclinations. Just stay out of the US, please.

>>126300068
>drive my car to my friends place down the road with my bike in the car
>get fucking WASTED
>ride a bike home that night
>sleep it off
>ride back the next day, drive home

years of that shit. but, each time i did it, i risked a DUI on a bike. each time. a fucking pedal bike. just to be sure i rode minum sidewalks and did the grass backroads and made it home each time, but it shits me that i was doing the "right thing" and was risking it all

i was also doing acid and dmt, but it shits me that people doing lesser thing like booze got away with it while i risked it all. which is fair, i did illegal things, and if i got caught

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>>126264466
What do you guys know about ayahuasca?

I like that a blatant shitpost thread has managed to stay up all night, stay classy /pol/

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You're totally right

>>126267868
Now do that famous Vietnam photo.

>>126300932
What makes you think your position is inherently different from mine? Do you want to argue based on principles? No problem, but keep in mind that the consequences of being consistent about personal freedom and government non-intervention are more far-reaching than Garry Johnson fans like you would comfortable with. If you want to argue based on desirable outcome, then good luck proving that your subjective evaluation of the consequences of legalizing drugs is somehow better than mine.

>>126266206
Oh fuck if it's spice then he was fucked from the get go. That stuff is really evil. Makes you feel schizophrenic.

>>126301302

Pic looks like that woman on Twitter who keeps calling trump sweetie.

>>126277968
Yup I was right he sounds schizo. If he was smokin spice on top of it I'm not suprised he did this. I have no mental problems and smoking spice was terrifying. I thought I was losing my mind. Just fucking legalize real weed god dammit.

>>126266356
yes there is, it basically looks like me in GTA

>>126301659
it obviously is.
prohibition doesnt even decrease drug consume.
it doesnt do ANYTHING to protect citizens.
there isnt even a logical reason why drugs were made illegal in the first place besides pharma companies interests.

>>126303427
You're a brainlet. Every single one of these pointless debates with druggies boils down to the same thing:
>Bob: if we legalize drugs, X, Y and Z will happen. X, Y and Z are good, so we should legalize drugs.
>Guy: Okay, but if we legalize drugs, P, Q and R will happen. P, Q and R are bad, so we should not legalize drugs.
And so it degenerates into a pointless subjective-opinion-based """debate""" about whether it's better to avoid gain X, Y and Z or to avoid P, Q and R. The problem with druggies is that they're usually too solipsistic to realize that the answer depends completely on one's subjective values, which other people may not share, so they start chimping out about how they're being "logical" while the opponents aren't. Just off yourself.

>>126288676
>i have no control over my life

kill yourself faggot

>>126275681
this happens too though

why should we legalize another outlet for people to abuse

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>>126301659
You're living in a fantasy land sold to you by big pharma and pearl clutchers. Portugal is a great example of drug decriminalization working. It's a humane and logical way to deal with people's habits. It takes away funding cartels and a prison economy that creates cyclical problems. Drug use started to decline to lower levels, as well, after the initial bump.

You belong in the ranks of nanny state creeps like the US women's temperance movement in the 1920s with first wave feminism. They managed to overturn thousands of years of tradition embedded into the DNA of men and the original founders (who were surely turning in their graves). They got Congress to ban alcohol. The only thing that did was cause people to die from harmful liquor cut with thinners from mobs, fund mafias to turn into a global power house, and turn petty neerdowells into sustainable thugs and gangs, and embolden federal oversight and power in the worst ways. Regular folks, working class drunks, bums, and elites all still got their drinks as usual but this time the money went to fucking thugs and increasing jackbooted feds. Everything turned exponentially worse.

The modern drug war is infinitely worse. It would also be great to get the cartels off the backs of Central and South America so they stop having so many fucking reasons to flee their shitholes illegally.

>>126264466
It was K2. cannabis prohibition lead to this disaster.

Also, let us apply your logic to guns.

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>>126305820
Don't give bootlicking scum any ideas.

>>126306490
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_Portugal

>>126307371
That's not a logical argument. Read the protip, kraut. It gives a basic outline of a logical argument for brainlets like you.

>>126264971
the boogie man weed. wonder how many people are killed a year due to alcohol? and it was fucking spice he was smoking you mongloid.

>>126307543
drastically decreasing the amount of drug related deaths is not a logical argument ?
alright then.

Spic decides to act irresponsibly while high, so it's the fault of drugs.
This is the exact same logic anti-gun people use, you faggot OP you.

>>126307742
>my claim is not a logical argument?
Nope. Read the protip, kraut. It gives a basic outline of a logical argument for brainlets like you.

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>>126307911
its not an argument, its a fact.
but you dont care much about facts, do you, jew ?

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>>126306490
>"TL;DR."
I stated the consequences of criminalizing drugs, which has been demonstrably harmful. The events of the past 90 yeas are damning evidence. You're unwilling to read. I figured you'd stoop that low. You're reddit-tier.

>>126264466
K2 is not weed. It's a designer drug made by savvy kikes trying to get around the ban on weed.

Kys dipshit.

>>126308140
>its not an argument, its a fact.
The average chocolate bar has 8 insects' legs in it. That's also a fact. Try to make an actual argument next time.

>>126308201
What's that? You're unable to provide a logical proof that your subjective evaluation of the consequences of legalizing drugs is more "true" than mine?

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>>126266902
>>126294550
This. It introduced me to the nicotine jew.

>>126308431
>chocolate bar has 8 insects' legs in it
Wow! An unintelligent jew who can't follow simple logic also believes in urban myths. Real surprising.

People are retarded if they think PCP Sprayed plants (Spice) is the same as weed

>All these weed smokers ITT
Really shows how people here arent the fighters against degeneracy they claim to be.

>>126308626
>the joke flies right over his head
>he keeps chimping out instead of making a logical argument
Do you want me to explain to you how to construct a logical argument in greater detail? Was the protip not good enough for you, brainlet?

>>126308431
completely changes the subject.

typical jew

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>>126264971
>laced it with some other shit

lmao sheltered mormon detected

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what makes you think the founding father would've wanted the government telling them they can't get high? especially with a potential medicine that's natural and can be grown themselves. the science is settled.

>>126264943
niggers gonna nig

Weed is the cover-up statement for ultra low frequency mind control use

>>126308873
>the brainlet kraut still doesn't understand what he's doing wrong
Okay, let me spell it out for you: claiming that something is true doesn't prove anything. Even if I simply accept your claim at face value, you still haven't shown how your conclusion follows from it.

>>126264466
>>126264971
>>126266173
people.
he is pretending to be retarded for the love of god stop replying and sage
sage
sage

>>126294550
thats like saying all alcoholics started with drinking milk. all rapists started with kissing.

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>>126308774
I'm opposed to the plethora of negative effects of drug prohibition, therefore it follows that I seek to end drug prohibition. I stated negative effects of prohibition both in the 1920s and today. I mentioned a working example of national drug decriminalization. It isn't my job to spoon feed you more than this considering you won't read anything that destroys your preconceived zealotry.

You have numerous bugs in your programming.

>>126264813
Weed makes you want to kill people you hear voices anon.

>>126266902
It's defs a gateway drug

Be Everyone
Be 12
>Never doing drugs
>Be 15-17
>Never doing more than weed
>Be 18+
>Only party drugs, nothing like heroin, meth, maybe coca.
>Be 20+
10% of people will end up on the hard drugs.
About half will try party drugs and psychadelics

None of it will happen if they didnt start on weed

>>126264813
>Your fucking dumb
>Your

>>126309033
drug decriminalization -> less drug related deaths.
you could also just read the page i linked.

im not going to break it down for you because you are to dense to understand it.

>>126309258
>I'm opposed to the plethora of negative effects of drug prohibition, therefore it follows that I seek to end drug prohibition.
I'm opposed to the plethora of negative effects of drug culture and drug use becoming acceptable and mainstream, therefore I'm opposed to changes that may bring about such an outcome. If you think you've "proven" something with this "argument", then so have I.

>>126309427
that's a subjective argument and a retarded one at that. it being illegal only makes users more likely to go to the black market and be offered harder drugs. once it's completely legal weed smokers won't even have a drug dealer. if you think the debate over recreational weed is ever going to go away then you're sadly mistaken. do you know how many weed fags act like they're better than all other drug users cause they smoke weed?

>>126309427
You should learn the difference between correlation and causation. You can't claim it's a "gateway" to people who are already inclined to go down the drug route into hard addictions. Water may as well be a gateway to those people.

>>126309427
Be me
>Didn't do drugs
>be 15-17
>Smoke cigs, drink
>Never do more than those
>be almost 18
>Try pot
>Now it's the only drug I consume
>Don't even drink

>>126309667
>drug decriminalization -> less drug related deaths
Like I said, even if I just accept this at face value, your conclusion that drugs should be legalized is still a logical non-sequitur. Why is your IQ so pitifully low?

>>126264466
This wasn't weed at all. It looked like a purposefully done act decided upon at the last split second. The guy took an impulse idea to run all those people over and ran with it

>>126309744
Great. Now, hopefully, you understand that we fully disagree with each other.

>>126296224
I've seen this fuckery so many times now.
Are white people actually a minority in the US already?

>>126264813
Yes, it pretty much does.

>>126309771>>126309813
>>126309854


Well if we just do what that phillipino dude is doing and just kill all drug dealers and users, we won't have a problem will we?

>>126309858
They should be legalized because no one, government, girlfriends, pets whatever has the right to control what you willingly put into your body. You have bodily autonomy over yourself and no one else, No one has the right to tell you that you aren't allowed to consume something if you wish and don't violate the rights of others to do so.

>>126309918
>hopefully, you understand that we fully disagree with each other
That's a given, but if you're not completely retarded, you may be able to see now that one can easily form a counter-argument to your "argument" that is equally "logical".

http://time.com/4037604/colorado-marijuana-tax-revenue/

what legitimate reasons are there to keep it illegal? cause the founding fathers wanted the government telling them they can't get high? is it because you want people to go to black market for it and be offered other drugs? is it cause you think it's fair throwing someone in jail for a potential medicine? why wouldn't alcohol be a gateway drug if it's also a mind altering substance? are you just a depressed dickhead that assumes everyone has the same experience with it as you did? smoke sumn breh

>>126309998
Be me
>Never do drugs
>Get into a car accident
>Dr Feelgood prescribes oxy's for days
>Script ran out
>I fucking NEED more
>Pills super expensive on the street
>Heroin, not so much

>>126310241
>taking what random people tell you is heroin
>implying its not mixed with random crap that couldt do u serious harm

Yeah nah

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>>126309952
>Are white people actually a minority in the US already?
Yes, Swedenbro. The only saving grace is that US states are sizable equivalents of European nations. There are states with around 90% white population, not that the data can be fully believed with illegals not properly counted. Those states have the lowest crime. Take this pic with a grain of salt but it's better data than nothing.

>>126310313
>implying addicts going through withdrawal would give a shit about that

>>126310070
Well, okay, then why should it have control over how I spend my own money, whom I choose to discriminate against when I hire employees etc.?

>>126309258
Do you seriously believe the problems with illegal drugs didn't exist before the drugs were outlawed? They were just banned for no reason and that caused the problem.

Everyone would be fine if they just did heroin all day, as long as the police don't show up.

Wake up.

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>>126296224

>>126289967
>access to assualt weapons

I wish reddit would fuck off

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>>126310508

>>126310382
that's why they are addicts

because they are dumb

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>>126310561

>>126287814
>It was an accident!

>>126264466
I fail to see how this pic has anything to do with weed. What, do you think someone smokes a joint, then goes to ride 120 in the fucking downtown of a major city, runs over a bitch, gets out, and runs around like a fucking retard? Hell no, they'll stay on a fucking couch unless they absolutely have to get up to do something. If they get in a car, they'll drive more careful than normal because weed makes them that way. Fuck off ignorant kike.

>>126310313
Was an example, I don't do that shit.

>>126310390
Sure, I'm against drug testing though for anything but serious positions. For a few reasons. They're ineffective, only catching the soft drugs that stay in your body for a long time, completely missing harder drugs, but at least you caught the pothead who smoked on the weekends. Just gonna completely miss that dude that goes out partying with X and acid every other week though.

>I can't get through the day without the weed Jew

>>126264466
HE WAS ON PCP RETARDS

If you didn't immediately assume PCP you should probably kill yourself.

>>126310750
What are you going on about, druggie? I asked a general question but you only seem to be able to interpret it through the lens of your drug problem.

>>126310128
Anyone can claim anything. Are you literally making a point that obvious? I've encountered plenty of people who think drug decriminalization would lead to chaos and zombies in the streets. They're nearly all. A few percent of them are intelligent. They express a desire to understand the harmful effects of prohibition and soon then come to the realization they've been brainwashed by hysteria and propaganda. Ho hum.

>>126310430
youre right lets waste money arresting heroin addicts.

>>126264466
weed makes you drive in 10km/h, you literally dont wanna drive faster.

your argument is invalid

>>126264466
I would usually sage this as obvious bait, but something tells me this retard actually believes weed makes you see dragons.
>>126264813
fpbp

btw did anyone find any connections between the guy and ISIS? I saw posts claiming that ISIS called specifically for car attacks the day before and then 3 unmotivated crashes happened in the US.

>>126310911
So is your "argument" logical or not? If so, then so is mine, and there's no reason for me to change my position. If it's not, then when are you going to provide a logical argument? You said you're being logical and I'm being emotional, but so far you've done almost nothing except for chimping out and falsely assuming that your subjective-value-judgment-laced "factual" posts are somehow relevant.

>>126309998
>just kill everyone and rip families apart
Sounds like a great way to frame someone. Under a tyrannical system, your enemies will be sure to plant an ounce of plant matter in your vehicle and notify authorities. The firing squad is efficient. Don't worry. It won't be too painful.

>>126266206
I smoked k2 once and couldn't feel my body for 4 hours and layed straight in the sun for the whole time and got burned to shit. 2/10 would not recommend.

>>126310908
>Well, okay, then why should it have control over how I spend my own money, whom I choose to discriminate against when I hire employees etc.?

I'm perfectly fucking fine with it, just stated my opinions on drug testing.

It's costly and in most cases ineffective,

>>126277749

I drive around high all the time. It doesn't matter at all.

>>126311347
So you oppose taxation, support the right of your fellow Americans to refuse to hire druggies and women, and support the right of landlords swiftly kicking out druggies off their property?

>>126277749
Try again sweetie
>t. Drives to work to eurobeat baked everyday

>>126309427
weed is a psychedelic

>>126310430
If you have your eyes closed to the infinite additional negatives prohibition caused, it might not be worth arguing with you. Addicts who cause societal problems are comparatively few to the people who use substances casually (smoking, alcohol, cannabis, cocaine). Lumping in the crazies with the casuals for prison causes extreme negative effects.

Islamic radicalization. Broken homes. Tarnished records. Welfare. In France, UK, and Australia, prisoners are pressured into Islamic gangs from the inside of prison. It's insanity. Prohibition is the most reckless spawn of countless evils and societal ills.

>>126311552
Not against all taxation, while I don't necessarily agree with it all.

Refuse to hire druggies? Sure, just enjoy forking up for drug tests so you can catch the odd pothead or 2, while completely missing the person on the hard drugs.

I don't rent, so no landlord. But if you break the agreements in your lease you should be kicked the fuck out.

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>>126312116
>Not against all taxation
So a person should be able to do what they like as long as they don't harm others, except when it comes to their money?

>>126312378
Civilized world doesn't operate on hopes and dreams. I'd like there to be a system where no one needs to be taxed and things get done. But I don't think that world exists.

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>>126289967
>"assault weapons."
kek

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>>126291602

>>126312522
And there goes your entire argument, since you readily reject its entire premise when it doesn't suit you. Try again.

>>126277749
are you fucking stupid? do you think everyone is as incompetent as you are high?

>>126312624
Still waiting for your rational argument, brainlet. I like how you stopped responding as soon as your position has been shown to be as worthless as the anti-druggers you keep whining about. :)

>>126309993
Idk what you smoke over there Hans,but here it doesn`t.

>>126312777
Wait what, because I don't think there's a functioning world where no on pays taxes, I shouldn't be allowed to consume something of MY choice?

>>126264466
Misuse, no matter how widespread, of a right does not justify removing that right from those who are not incarcerated. Being an adult means accepting risk in exchange for rights.

>>126312923
No. If you base your argument on the premise that people should be able to do what they like as long as they don't harm others, and then reject this premise when it doesn't suit you, then your argument is pretty worthless.

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>>126272433
>>126278747
>>126266206
>>126288264
>>126288676
>>126298701

weed is not good for society
>WEED IS NATURAL!!! FUCK YOU!
weed just caused mass murder
>WEED IS SYNTHETIC!!! FUCK YOU!

>>126312890
I trust that what criminal psychologists say is true

>>126288264
" It is even worse when they "vape" it."
That's wrong

>>126313088
Guns have been used in mass murders and I don't support banning, or even significantly regulating, them. Most rape involves a penis but I wouldn't support being castrated.

Smoking pot is stupid, its not something I have any interest in doing, but I'd nullify if I found myself on a jury in which someone had killed a cop arresting them for marijuana possession.

Crimes need specific victims. Proactive legislation of private behavior is tyranny.

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>>126313088
if this is your understanding of the difference of spice and weed then you are actually retarded

>>126313120
Don`t trust any "professional"psychologist or whatsoever. They are paid off to write bullshit articles. Just like how big companies like coca cola invests in fake studies and articles to glorify how great and healthy sugar is.

>>126313052
So you're transplanting my argument into another scenario? Sounds kind of disingenuous.

I see the necessity of taxes, I don't agree with them all, or even a lot of them. But I also don't see how this country functions without them.

If you wanted to drink drain-o, that's your prerogative. You're not infringing on someone else's inalienable rights by drinking that drain-o. It's your choice, your body, your life.

Taxes are different.

>>126290969
The exact same sort of thing happened in Melbourne at the start of the year anon

>>126313512
>so you're transplanting my argument into another scenario? Sounds kind of disingenuous.
No. I'm taking the premise on which you base your argument, assume that you consider it true, then give you an example of something else that logically follows from it. Since you're not willing to accept this, it follows that you don't actually believe that your own premise is true, so your arguments based on it are disingenuous. Why do weedlets have so much trouble with logical reasoning?

>>126264813
fpbp

> criticizing weed cuz some faggot couldn't handle his shit
> most likely lives off adderall and Mountain Dew

>>126313736
he's just saying it doesn't seem realistic. if the country could function without people paying taxes, he said he'd support that

>>126277749
So then we should ban alcohol

>>126264466

Yeah if he was smoking synthetic weed I can kind of see this possibly happening. I smoked many different kinds when I was dumb in high school and if you get the right kind and take a really huge hit you can hallucinate. But that shit is definitely different than marijuana

>>126283751
retard

>>126313736
>I'm taking your argument
>And applying it to something completely different
>Now stand there in awe as the argument isn't a perfect fit!

NO ONE BUT YOU has the right to determine what can go into your body. Simple as that. Don't take that then conflate it to all this other shit. This is about your ability, as someone with bodily autonomy to decide for yourself as an adult what you put into said body.

And again, it's because I see the necessity in taxes? Because I don't see how the country can be ran without them?

>>126313979
>he's just saying it doesn't seem realistic.
If he doesn't consider his own premise "realistic", why does he try to base his positions on it?

>>126314102
A PERSON WITH BODILY AUTONOMY DECIDING WHAT GOES INTO THEIR BODY IS ENTIRELY FUCKING REALISTIC YOU SPERG.

The country functioning without any revenue, isn't.

>>126312872
Yes, I claim my view is logical. Drug prohibition causes severe amounts of strife in all facets of life. Therefore, I wish to end it. It is more logical than your view in which prohibition exists but people continue to use drugs and fund criminal networks. Dimwitted folks assume when others back away from them it's a result of fear. In reality, my backing away from you is because your conversation is dimwitted.

>>126314041
>NO ONE BUT YOU has the right to determine what can go into your body
Why is it okay for the government to regulate how people use their own money because you "see the necessity" but not okay for the government to regulate substance use because I "see the necessity"?

>>126314365
>It is more logical than your view in which prohibition exists but people continue to use drugs and fund criminal networks
But you're outright lying. I didn't claim that people will continue to "fund criminal networks", and there's no logic at all behind the idea that if we legalize drugs, people won't continue to use them, brainlet. Please try again. :)

>>126275687
Suicide by acute carbon monoxide poisoning.

>>126314555
I don't care if people continue to use drugs. I'm focused on harder evils. Nice try.

>>126314377
two different things.

One is your body, and what you decide to put into it.

The other is kind of needed for the government to function. If that magical system existed I'd be behind it 1000000000%, but it doesn't.

So why should the lack of that system, determine what you as a functioning adult are allowed to put into their body.

>>126278330
yes but you live in australia where the roads are made of sand and there's a 90% chance abbos will be laying in the middle of it

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>>126314555
illegal drug use in colorado has gone down since weed has become recreational. also less DUIs. also it's medicine. sorry buddy but it's not logical to compare personal freedoms to contributing to society

>>126314690
You little mental cripple... I'm asking you again: if you think "we should legalize drugs because it leads to such and such positive consequences" is a good argument, then why is "we shouldn't legalize drugs because it leads to such and such negative consequences" not a good argument? Can you prove that legalizing drugs can't lead to drug use and drug culture becoming mainstream and acceptable, or are you trying to claim that your subjective evaluation of the consequences you choose focus on is more objective than my subjective evaluation of the consequences I choose to focus on?

>>126264813
>pic
>weedfag with shit tier taste
IM SHOCKED

>>126314377
how do you think using the same smoking weed and paying taxes is logical at all? i'm sure cause you feel weed should be regulated, so should every other thing we can possibly put in our body

>>126314776
>two different things
That does not address the question in any way.

>>126315240
same logic for*

>>126315240
You know what, forget about it. I don't know why I expect weedlets to be able to pull off basic abstract reasoning. Let's do this another way: why is it not okay for the government to regulate substances?

>>126282875
This is facebook tier.
GET OUT.

>>126290969
You guys ride on spiders of course that wont happen

>>126315471
Does the government have to tell you what you can eat, what you can drink?

>>126315694
No, but you didn't answer the question.

>>126315471
>>126315760

Oh, and I'm perfectly fine with it being regulated. If by regulated you mean in a legal sense.

It's not OK for the government to decide what can go into your body. If you want to drink bleach, it's not the governments place to make it illegal. If you want to eat yourself into a heart attack, it's not the governments place to stop you. If you want to smoke a joint, it's not the governments place to tell you that you can or can't.

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>>126315471
how come alcohol is legal when it's a mind altering substance but acid isn't? sometimes people take facts about the substance into consideration and realize you can't use the same logic for every single specific thing on earth. try not being a subversive kike. at least, in america, this is not what the founding fathers fought for

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>>126264466

I gotta say you're either some juicy bait or a real faggot. If you're gonna blame marjiuana for a dumb spic driving while high you're in the same boat as all the fucking idiots who blame guns for people killing other people. Move the fuck on

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/2016-may-go-down-as-one-of-the-worst-years-for-drunk-driving-deaths/

>>126266206
>that is ACTUALLY bad for yo
Look at this edgelord that thinks putting 230 degree smoke in his lungs isnt bad for you

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>>126315145
You offered nothing to support your opinions. I offered a lot to support my opinions. You've even been spoon-fed a link to Portugal's decriminalization by another anon, which serves as a good example of why it doesn't lead to chaos and more druggies running wild. Those who do drugs will do them and those who don't won't. It's cultural and genetic as far as predispositions to compulsions and addiction. You're running on fumes.

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>>126266544
You're right, we need to gas them all.

>>126315936
>he just keeps reasserting it
Can you explain why it's not okay for the government to ban drugs or not?

>>126315966
>but muh alcohol
Can you explain why it's not okay for the government to ban drugs or not? You literally didn't answer the question.

>>126316129
>he makes the same fallacy again
Can you prove that legalizing drugs can't lead to drug use and drug culture becoming mainstream and acceptable, or are you trying to claim that your subjective evaluation of the consequences you choose to focus on is more objective than my subjective evaluation of the consequences I choose to focus on? Which one is it?

>>126277749
Your mind would be blown if you knew just how many people are driving high at ant given moment. Most people can operate a vehicle to a competent degree while under the influence of marijuana.

You ignorant cum guzzling shit bucket.

>>126264466
I smoked a marijuana once and it made me want to operate a truck of peace so OP is obviously correct.

>>126267184
>drink themselves to death
Oh shit, is it really a thing?
You can just drink some more and pass out, why mix shit to your alcohol?
Yeah, you can go fuckshit crazy, or choke on your own vomit, or be killed by your drinking buddy.
But to drink enough to kill oneself, how the fuck do you do this, burgerpeople?

>>126316537
it's not ok because it's not their fucking business. simple as that. and on top of that, clearly they're not capable of stopping people. i don't care if people do it and i don't care to pay taxes to prevent people from doing it

>>126316469
Can you explain why it's ok for them to determine what you can put into your body?

>>126317061
>it's not their fucking business.
And pedos think it's not the government's business if they fuck children. Prove your claim.

>>126317158
>Can you explain why it's ok
Everything is okay be default. If you think some action is not okay, prove that it isn't.

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What?? I guess all of us walk around armed. Except those without arms or legs.

>>126288290
Someone post this on twitter as first pics taken of crime scene before media interference.

>>126317177
pedos are hurting kids dipshit. try harder

>>126316612
Future events can't be proven without trial and adaptation over time. Policy doesn't work that way. Life doesn't work that way. If you're asking me to travel into the future and give you incontrovertible "proof" of the future, you have some screws loose. Yes, I claim my subjective evaluation of the consequences I'm focused on is more objective than your subjective evaluation leading to your assumptions.

>>126317273
So we're in agreement, the government doesn't have control over what you should and shouldn't be able to put into your body.

>>126317177
i can smoke weed right now, chill at my house for 3 hours, and no one will ever know. why does the government have the right to tell me i can't do that? you won't find another example of something as harmless that as much money has been poured into and has ruined as many lives

>>126317393
>pedos are hurting kids
Okay, so what's your standard for determining that it's okay to prohibit X but not okay to prohibit Y? That's literally all I'm asking from you and you repeatedly fail to provide it.

>>126312624
It's "hammatyme"

>>126317541
Molesting kids violates their rights.

Smoking a joint doesn't.

>>126317463
>So we're in agreement, the government doesn't have control over what you should and shouldn't be able to put into your body
No we're not. It's okay by default for you to smoke weed, and it's also okay by default for the government to lock you up for doing so because they don't like it. Prove that it's not okay.

>>126317541
if it actually effects someone or not. pedos are hurting kids. i can smoke weed by myself and no one will ever know. what business does the government have telling me i can't enjoy myself on my own time?

>>126317541
we've already said that it depends if it hurts someone or not and you give an example of pedophilia? you're the one who should give reason as to why it should be illegal.