New Orleans to remove Gen. Robert E. Lee statue

>>126216407
What the fuck, why is nobody stopping this?

>>126216407
>people want to have statues removed
>but they don't want the roads fixed

Fuck it, I think the libertarians are right on this, if the government isn't gonna fix our roads we might as well have someone else do it.

Is the statue for sale?

>>126216489
because he's a traitor to his country.

>>126216489
Why should they? Guy was literally a racist

>>126216635

So... you like niggers?

You must be a white woman.

>>126216532
There arent any roads where we're going friend

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>>126216489
Because the communist mayor has police snipers keeping the people in line
Nuke us please

>>126216617
>>126216635
Reddit is back that way. ->

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>>126216635
A lot of statues to take down

Why the fuck are they doing this? Isnt the statue like centuries old?

>>126216407
>Was he pro slavery or something?
No, he hated slavery as he saw it as a symptom of laziness and indulgence.

But he's one of the objectively best Confederates so he's targeted for being a symbol of Southern Pride.

>>126216407
This is a dark day friendo, a real shot across the history of this country. Robert E Lee made the after war years a lot safer than they could have been and they turned his house into a graveyard. No respect at all.

>>126216999
because of social justice
nothing will change, but at least they took down a racist statue :)

>>126216635
made me lol

>>126216407
If they remove them from the cities we must install new ones in white (rural) areas.

>>126216819
>Fought against the U.S killing American men
>Sided with the Traitorous Confederates nearly destroying America
>Somehow not a traitor
General Sherman was right. We should have hanged the Southerners from trees

>>126216407
Lee wasn't even a racist, he almost sided with the union but couldn't bear to fight against his friends and relatives from his home country virginia. This from his memoirs.

People are just so blinded by political stupidity that they want to tear down the visible edifices in an attempt to erase history. By that logic they would have to blow up mount rushmore and anything else that had a founding father that owned slaves.

Lincoln wrote that if he could preserve the union by any means necessary, he would. even if that meant freeing none of the slaves.

Guess he was a racist too.

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>>126216407
just typical communist four olds stuff RIP burgers

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>mfw when the south was more American than the north and Lincoln was cool with keeping slaves.

>>126216635
>In this enlightened age, there are few I believe, but what will acknowledge, that slavery as an institution, is a moral & political evil in any Country. It is useless to expatiate on its disadvantages. I think it however a greater evil to the white man than to the black race, & while my feelings are strongly enlisted in behalf of the latter, my sympathies are more strong for the former. The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially & physically. The painful discipline they are undergoing, is necessary for their instruction as a race, & I hope will prepare & lead them to better things. How long their subjugation may be necessary is known & ordered by a wise Merciful Providence.

>>126216407
He was a true American. And unironically a genius. So of course they hate him

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>>126217090
Sad. Here a princess Isabel ended slavery, but nobody give her any credit because she was white

>>126216407
>Abraham Lincoln was responsible for more American deaths than any other president in history

Get to work taking down his monuments.

Race bating News/indoctrinating kids from young age And most importantly group mentality =.= how will this go down when one of these people get in power after the old heads die

>>126217633
And thicc.

>>126217365
>memorializing someone who LOST a war
>memoralizing someone who got BTFO by a raging alcoholic
>MUH lost cause
southern cucks just can't let go of something even 150 years later

maybe dixies should have won the war if they didn't want their statues removed

>>126217799
So should the Italians remove all of their Roman era statues?

>>126217799
I guess france should just be dozed over then, they lost two of the biggest ones.

>>126217799
So Napoleonic architecture and statuary should be removed?

>>126216407
>lose the war
>deserve a statue
really makes you think

>>126217959
Well yeah, Sharia don't bloody allow them.

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>>126216407
looks familiar

Americans, don't let this happen. Don't let your history be rewritten.
My country suffered the same fate 43 years ago by the hands of communists.

Don't let this happen to your country. Don't let them destroy your identity. People have changed and more often than not people know that racism is bad, but using racism as an excuse to censor history is despicable.

Do something.

>>126218244
Infinite times this.

>>126217959
most of them are destroyed anyway, catholics really did a number on destroying shit to build their cathedrals.

>>126217287
>fight for your home
>traitor

Are you retarded?

>>126218244
Based leaf

>>126218245
Sorry but racists are on the wrong side of history this is evil history

>>126218133
>two
literally retarded lmao

>>126216489
We can't. DNC money is too powerful for our state to handle.

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

>>126216607
Knowing the mayor, for sure. You just have to be the right person to buy it.

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>>126217365
>By that logic they would have to blow up mount rushmore and anything else that had a founding father that owned slaves.

Students and professors at the University of Virginia (founded by Jefferson) have already tried to get university president to resign for quoting Thomas Jefferson. It's only a matter of time before monuments dedicated to Washington and Jefferson get torn down.

Pic related: SJWs destroying statues of Assyrian oppressors and slavers.

>>126218560
You cant erase the bloody past else it will repeat it self. GOOD GOD HOW STUPID ARE YOU PEOPLE.

>>126218560
It doesn't matter, you fucking asshole.

How are YOUR future generations going to learn about YOUR past if you keep censoring or destroying YOUR OWN history?

All cultures, societies, nations made their mistakes. If we keep destroying our mistakes how are we ever going to learn?

Stop this niggerish asinine behavior. It's unproductive and serves only for you to feel good about something ephemeral.

This is akin to burning books.

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>>126216407
they'll be coming for other evil slaveowners next

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>>126219091
You guys know there are things called books right? It's not like most people will learn anything about confederate history just by glancing at a statue

>>126216805
>>126218876
Just run up and climb the fucking crane.

I'm related to General Lee. He was no more racist than the northern hypocrites. He was anti-slavery, but being from the south he felt that he couldn't fight against his own brethren. If he wouldn't have joined the South, there loss would've been twice as fast.

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>>126216635
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc
FUCK NIGGERS

OH I WISH I WAS IN DIXIELAND

>>126218244
dont compare the thousands of years old history of civilization to the history of the defeated south.... that just happened 5 minutes ago

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>>126216407

Robert E. Lee was a traitor. Fact.

He also surrendered formally.

>>126217799
I agree completely that "MUH SUH-THERN CUL-SHUR" is completely Jewish horse shit (Seriously guys, you're defending the RAH-TUH for Jews to drive your ancestors into the poorhouse) and the Jewish and Hebrephilic southern wannabe-aristocracy and planter class should have been hanged from the tops of their mansions, BUT, this isn't being done for any reason involving the Civil War.

The reason this is being done is to erase and marginalize American history, the American people, and the White American ethnic group. The fact that they're going after Johnny Reb first is just because he's an acceptable target.

>>126218244
very nice.

>>126216617
>refused to fight and kill his own family
>wow what a traitor

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>pay to remove history of the city
>can't pay to fix pic related
New Orleans, everyone. Hell, they use to not even pay the police their salaries. At one point a private citizen had to step in and pay the police so that downtown could be patrolled for Mardi Gras.
>i wish I were joking

>>126218560
Delet

>>126219258
well i typed that backwards ... but serious. dont do it

>>126219210
Actually it offends me and we are removing it from history books. Kids don't need to learn that racist stuff anyway.

>>126216407
>greatest general
>lost to based US grant

Kek

>>126219313

Lee would have joined the Union is they had given him a higher rank. He chose the South because he got to be a commanding General.

It was a career move.

>>126216407
So mount rushmore when?

>>126216635
Devils advocate here:

In what way was Robert E Lee racist? Name one way.

And how did this "racism" stand out from other figures of the time?

>>126219210
>implying removing it from the books wasn't the first thing they did
Seriously, there is almost no education towards our Civil War AT ALL. There hasn't been for nearly 4 decades now.

>>126216635
Didn't Robert E. Lee free all of his slaves before the civil war?

Didn't the northern general Grant keep his slaves and claim that he wouldn't fight if the war was about slavery?

>>126217600
You know, that's strangely correct.

>>126216617
Haha I'm not even from the south and can tell you're a fucking moron

>>126218754
>two
That's right, American troops bailed your asses out in both world wars.

>>126219238
>not posting the superior version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3IJ05QntXQ

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>126219273
>Robert E. Lee was a traitor. Fact.

Not according to the Supreme Court

>>126216407
Screw you New Orleans - I've visited once a year for four years now, but if you're going aggressive sjw I guess I need somewhere new to visit.

>>126216941
can we shoop this to say some more racist quotes

>>126216407
I take it that true red-blooded Americans will start doing the same to MLK statues in the coming weeks.

>>126219607
Nothing strange about it. These people weren't stupid or uninformed.

>>126219678
Blame the mayor. He's literally a cokehead loser who's more corrupt than his sister.

>>126219258
1000 years from now people wont have any statues to destroy if we are destroying them all today.

>>126216407
>Taking down historical monuments

Okay now I'm mad

>>126219438
Lee was offered the command of the union army you idiot. this is one of the more well known stories

>>126219753
I'm actually afraid of someone throwing a rock at a nigger statue and setting off a chain reaction

>>126219210
Yeah, let's destroy the Coliseum. I mean it's not like people need that to be there. There are these things called books, you know.

You sound retarded.

As much as I dislike racists I believe these things should be left untouched or, if anything, moved to a museum. But removing, defacing or outright destroying history is absolutely asinine, unjustified and nigger behavior.

I absolutely despise people who attempt to rewrite history.

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notice how white nationalists do jack shit

>>126219961
Don't expect any burger to actually know the history around the Civil War. It hasn't been taught in a very long time.

>>126219438
Lee was originally offered command of the entire union army by Lincoln. If he picked the confederacy as a career move he fucked up.

>>126216407
Robert E. Lee was the reason that there wasn't continued insurgency in the South after the war. He ordered his men to lay down their arms and go home to their families. Washing away history is always bad.

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>>126219330
>can't fix this either

>>126216607
Mayor says yes. All three removed have total value to collectors of 7 to 10 mil

>>126216407
being pro slavery is more racist than wanting to free slaves you stupid douche

Can we erase liberals next. They are all racist towards whites.

>>126219678
i suggest detroit

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>>126216635
Historically he despised slavery, its just that his home state of virginia left the union and he would never betray virginia.

>>126216407
>>126216489
The civil war is that one weird war where atrocities were commited on both sides but the south was still left to keep their narrative somewhat and honor those who fought.

War does not determine who is right, but who is left. The south lost and when you lose a war, you become the bad guys and you dont get to honor those fallen.

Rommel with the nazis was an honorable man and great strategist like Lee, but he lost and there are consequences to that.

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>>126220080

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>Americans on /pol/
We wuz based n sheitt you europoors wuz cucked n sheitt
>Literaly destroys Historical monument for political agenda
KEK

>>126219877
blame your people for social engineering. Thank you for ruining our lives.

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>>126219210
>books
I remember reading an article about the new multicultural history books in France. Less than ten pages focused on Napoleon and his legacy whereas pre-colonial West African kingdoms receive much more attention.

>>126220181
I was thinking maybe somewhere in the South, but thanks for contributing anon - have a (You)

>>126220125
Why did he want to free them though? Go read a book.

You emotional idiots ruin everything with your virtue signalling

>>126219438

No, it was because Virginia (Lee's home state) joined the Confederacy. Lincoln had even offered Lee a commanding position.

In letters to a son of his, Lee even denounced the CSA for secession.

>>126220204
is she blackened?

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>Google Robert E. Lee in news
>See this

Can any American confirm? All I know about him is that he was a great general

>>126219091
>>126219091
It can't repeat because whites are going to be fucking gone soon you evil racist. Racism won't exist in America soon because we'll all be the same, American Europeans will get what they've long deserved.

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>>126220259

What about Pierre-Gustave Beauregard statue? Was it already removed?

Yep. What was REALLY ailing Nawlins were Confederate statues.

Now they can finally make progress.

>>126217365
It's not really about erasing history, it is about sticking it to Whitey. The mayor of new orleans has a black wife who has him pussywhipped. Negroes have to be confrontational and try to pick fights wherever they are.

fuck the niggers and their marxist kike brain parasites

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIH7eBFJr68

>>126219734
Why not just make new ones? Lincoln said a lot of racist things about blacks being non-human and inferior when he was running for office.

>>126220379
>we'll all be the same

Common dream shared by people who arent worth anything

>>126220370
(((Rosenwald)))

Hey I'm a democrat, I apologize for my fellow democrats, I'm proud to be in the party that defended slavery, please don't kill me if theres a revolution or something

>niggers destroying culture and civilization like always

it's sad but it's nothing new. This action will only fuel the white mans hatred toward jews, liberals, and nigs. Robert E Lee will still live on in our hearts and in histort books as a great general.

>>126216617
kys

>>126220314
ok please explain how opposing the freeing of slaves is somehow less racist or not any more racist than the north. "muh economics" is just putting wealth over human rights so excuse me if that's a shitty excuse in my eyes

>>126216407
I love this timeline. We all need less racism.

>>126220252
Nigga the same ((((people)))) that do that shit to you also do the same crap to us

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>>126220370
>the washington post
Bunch of lying faggots. Lee was so great he was offered the command of the union army, but chose to side with the confederacy because of his family.
The jews can't understand such a concept, so it must have been because he is incompetent, obviously.

>>126220539
thats what i meant. make racist shit up for laughs

>>126220379
Ok brown hitler LOL

>inb4 europeans start taking down artwork from the Roman empire and statues of Greek gods because they were made by slave owners

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>>126220395

>>126216407
SO TOLERANT

>>126220562
Okay, let me fix that:
Whites will be the only race bred out and everyone else will be fine. History can't repeat now because the devil race has been wiped out.

The statues were an attempt to deny history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Cause_of_the_Confederacy

>>126218244
This.

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Look how beautiful removing the monument has made the city look! So progressive.

>>126220689
>make racist shit up for laughs
There is literally no reason to "make shit up". Lincoln has so much racists quotes that are better than anything /pol/ could come up with.

this shit is fucking crazy, ignoring history enslaves EVERYONE you fucking cunts

>>126220370
Pickett's Charge was a blunder, but it's incredible how long Robert E. Lee's army lasted despite being completely outnumbered and lacking supplies and equipment for the entirety of the war. WaPo is a cancer.

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>>126220430
yeah, this is the last of them. why didn't anyone chain themselves to these monuments? this is literally a, "throw yourselves on the gears of the machine" moment and... where is it? does nobody really care anymore?

>>126216999
Part of the genocide program. They're removing the history of the target population.
Expect it to accelerate.

>>126220625
Im not making that argument

Where is the arbitrary line where something or someone becomes "too racist" and we have to demolish it? I'll give you a hint, there isnt one, and this emotional reaction is why changing something because its offensive is fucking retarded. As someone said before, lets blow up mt rushmore. George Washington owned slaves after all

>>126220873
samir, no one asked you

>>126216407

nawlins is the detroit of the south.

Hurricane Katrina do it again!

He was the commandant of West Point. Are they going to erase his name from those records too?

Also most of the southern state capitol buildings face south in honor of the confederacy. Are they going to rotate those to face north now?

>>126217799
I agree. The atrocities of the Ancient Egyptians were horrendous. Entire families and swathes of history were wiped out by them. We should tear down all Egyptian artifacts, including statues, pyramids, hieroglyphics, and buildings. That would be consistent, wouldn't it?
>>126218244
this

>>126220873
>widows of confederate soldiers campaign against the (((reconstruction))) propoganda that demonized their husbands
>deny history
Enjoy your muslim dicking. bong.

>>126220314
how about you go read a book, have you heard of this thing called "Southern Romanticism"? It's been a thorn in the side of this nation's culture for far too long and the purpose it served is dead.

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Next up,

Isac Newton was actually black, and Darwin stole the thesis for his theoriem from a nubian wise man.

>>126220568
Instead of excusing yourself, how about doing something about this? Contact your reps. Do something.

At this rate your country will turn full on communist in half a century or so.

DO SOMETHING.

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>>126220957
That's just really fucking sad and infuriating at the same time.

>>126216635
Nothing wrong with kin selection son.

>>126219842
yeah great but its not the same thing. the confederacy didnt exist at the dawn of civilization.

they arent going to destroy the statue it will almost certainly go in a museum.

whatever you think of the logic behind that, it isnt the same as isis wiping out all traces of the routes of all subsequent of the indo European civilization.

>>126221022
The city needs another good purge. The years after Katrina were the safest times New Orleans has been in a long while.

If Robert E. Lee goes then Lincoln, Jefferson and Washington need to be mutilated and broken from the face of Rushmore.

In fact somebody should do that, fire missiles into Mt Rushmore to remove their racist legacy. If you oppose it then you're pro-racism just like those white supremacist presidents and Trump.

>>126220914
Jesus christ... it's too late. ;~;

>>126220651
Can we kill (((children of satan))) who did that to us.

>>126216407
>This part of my city's history offends me, change it!

>>126221262
>they arent going to destroy the statue it will almost certainly go in a museum.
You are retarded if you think they will spend money to build a museum for these statues.
The reality is that they are going to be stored in some undisclosed warehouse, and be discovered "missing" in a couple of years.
That is how it works around here.

Time to destroy nigger statues.

>>126221022
all katrina did was make niggers migrate elsewhere and make shit worse elsewhere. hell even the govt game them money to migrate

>>126221315
It's ok anon - they'll replace it with a giant dildo with rainbows on it shortly.

>>126221282
I agree. Anything glorifying white people should be destroyed. Such a despicable race.

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>Americans will honour statues of traitors
>people honour the leading general of the largest pro-slavery insurrection that ever existed.

>>126221278

I went there once as a kid and that place gives me the creeps. Niggers everywhere too.

>>126216407
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0hWqF_RZFE
for a young nation keeping this would be so precious. this isn't europe or somewhere else. this is real US history, that thing is actual real US culture.... and it's getting removed. I'm in tears, because this is so infinitly sad.

>>126216407
what the fuck, this is some disrespectful shit
>>126219203
i can see it now. some purple haired fat fuck staring up at mount Rushmore as they carve trumps face into it, thinking to xerself "someday we'll get some equality in this sexist monument"

Where are the rebel marksmen? This moment is pivotal! A deafening win for the orwellian thought police.

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>>126220863
>unironically believes this

>>126220957
We've lost our will to fight for freedom. Now the revision of history begins then comes reformation of society as we know it.

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>>126221315
No, don't you see? The removal of the statue makes the city look so much better! Now we are sure to get a bunch more of the tourism our city so desperately needs!
I mean, the statues were scary after all. Why would a tourist want to see them? They are better off looking at pic related instead!

>>126220986
george washington didn't invent slavery or try to prevent it's end like robert e lee did. You can talk all day about lee's personal reasons for being in the conflict but the truth is he was a leader and major symbol of the side of the war that was fighting to keep slavery. We can understand him, the South, and the history of the South without needing to glorify it since it was literally only able to be as good as it ever was because of: you guessed it! Slavery.

That's what I don't get about you emotional conservatives whining like special snowflakes all day, you can't see that the end of slavery as an institution in this country is what we should be celebrating, not those who defended it.

>>126221496

I know, my home city of Houston was filled with katrina refugees but I'd moved about a year before that had happened. I had heard the crime got worse since then to absolutely nobody's surprise.

>>126221704
What the fuck is this.

>>126221557
But anon, the democrats were the traitors

The south was everything that America was meant to be, a republic with limited government that didn't force taxation

>>126221435
You'll lose legitimacy. Don't do anything silly. Please reconsider. :(

Just contact some representative or whatever and try to reverse this. Is there a petition out there?

>>126221511
;~;

>>126221704
I'm not even american and this shit hurts. Where the hell are american historians. Why is no one doing anything.

>>126221704
*Screams internally*

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>>126221557
7 states took up arms against its central government, how is this not history worth preserving?

>>126216407
its funny because he wanted to abolish slavery

fucking stupid niggers

>>126221657
It's already happening.

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>>126221715
Oh look, someone else who never learned about the Civil War.
>a nation that doesn't teach its history
>this is the nation we are living in
Better to spend money removing scary things than maintain the infrastructure that is literally underneath the scary thing.

"A man with no sense of history is like a man without eyes and ears."
~ Hitler

>>126221811
yeah im a texasfag myself

>>126216407
Lee was based, even i with my retarded gommunistic education in swedeistan, i hate fucking lefties.

It's really disheartening to see a piece of history go in the name of racism.
FUCK

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>>126219978
>New Orleans
>White Nationalists

>>126216617
Robert E. Lee is a god damn American patriot. He specifically took charge because if the south did win, he didn't want the others in the CSA to take charge and possibly fuck the country up even more.

>>126222049
yeah way to refute none of what I said. Another triggered emotional conservative reacting poorly when presented with rational facts

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>>126221819
You don't like it? Don't you see how it represents the unique history of New Orleans and its culture?
This is a defining piece of art, you bigot!

They want slavery to be evil, but in the founders time the value was that allowing yourself to be a slave was shameful.

Only the righteous, vigilant and willing to die could be free. Slaves were the worst kind of coward.

Values Dissonace.

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>>126221901
>Where the hell are american historians.
They are all communist, as well as the majority of our academic institutions. They support the removal of old statues for the installation of more of
>pic related

This reminds me of the time my nation was called Eastern roman empire (Byzantium for uneducated negros).
During that time, Christian mongrels ravaged throught the land and destroyed SO many ancient monuments, claiming they were pagan. Boy do we regret it today. You will regret it too americans. never let the left go unchecked

>>126216635
Do you know why the North didn't want slavery? It wasn't because they thought blacks were equal. The didn't want any blacks. The fraction of the north with moral objections to slavery and who wanted them free in the US was small.

>>126217640
>Get to work taking down his monuments
Good luck with that

>>126217287
>country only exists because it seceded from Britain
>calls others who do the same traitors

what did he mean by this?

>>126221848
>CSA
>Limited government

>institutes first draft on the American continent
>has internal passport system
>suspends habeas corpus
>army appropriates civilian property to give to soldiers to continue the war
>starts the first government welfare program with the redistribution of salt and grain in 1864

>>126221970
A pro-slavery insurrection isn't history I'd want to preserve in monuments.

>>126222252
yeah or we could just not have slavery instead of being wannabe "jungle law" tough guys like you.

>>126220786
>inb4
The Catholic church already destroyed a shitton of statues for nudity, m8.

>>126216407

Good it was offensive and the civil war should be remembered as the confederates were evil slavers
Get fucked drumpfkins.
Next it'll be those shitty confederate flags.

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>>126222225
So you support spending money on removing statues instead of fixing roads? Because that is what you are saying.

First they came for the Statues

>>126222424
that doesn't in turn justify the south using slaves at all though.

>>126221282
Rushmore is privately owned, dipshit.

>>126222575
But i didn't cared cause it wasn't my bronce.

>>126222066
>starts a land war in Russia

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Don't worry, goy, the city knows how to spend your taxes! How dare you question how they spend them!

>>126222506
weak bait

>>126221715
Robert E Lee invented slavery. Yep I forgot.

I just think its fucking dumb we cater to such cry babies. If we go through with this though we should really get a committee to check and make sure that everything of historical significance in america is not offensive.

This is akin to book burning, but its not a big deal because he's "racist". Its (snowflakes) that cant accept that there are things in this world they dont agree with so they break it.

>>126216941
Let's get started! :) Fuck white America.

when the ideology that's tearing down the old civil war monuments is beginning the new civil war

>>126222252
If the founders were so smart, why didn't they have internet?

Honestly even the founding fathers were terrorist and hateful racist fuckers.
They need to stop teaching history and remove all signs of them.
American History should be rewritten to start at FDR and always remember the 6 million and how bad hitler was.

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Good on the city for making room for such works of art as
>pic related.
It is about time this city joined the progressive march against bigotry and drumpf.

>>126222468
Slavery still exists today en mass and will exist as long as humanity does.

Me mom is from New Orleans and I visited in 2005. It was a shit hole, the least of their problems was a historically relevant statue. Is it no longer a shit hole, or is this just a massive taxpayer funded virtue signal / cultural demoralization attempt?

>>126222781
fuck you leaf, you fags just passed a law criminalizing impoliteness

>"A geographical line has been drawn across the Union, and all the States north of that line have united in the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery. He is to be entrusted with the administration of the common Government, because he has declared that that “Government cannot endure permanently half slave, half free,” and that the public mind must rest in the belief that slavery is in the course of ultimate extinction. This sectional combination for the submersion of the Constitution, has been aided in some of the States by elevating to citizenship, persons who, by the supreme law of the land, are incapable of becoming citizens; and their votes have been used to inaugurate a new policy, hostile to the South, and destructive of its beliefs and safety."

South Carolina Deceleration of Secession

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>>126222457
Motherfucker, our country was founded upon insurrection.

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He was a man of principles. He was also one of the greatest strategic minds that this country has produced.

I live on the Texas-Louisiana border and i had considered going to protest this.

>pic related

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Stunning and brave.

>Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery—the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin.

-Mississippi deceleration of secession

>>126222457
Yes, they were

>To insure the rights of the individual states would take precedence over the power of the central government, the Confederate government could not levy protective tariffs; direct and capitation taxes and taxes on exports were restricted. The ability to make internal improvements was limited to matters regarding ports and harbors, lighthouses, and dredging rivers. The government of the Confederacy could not overrule the decisions of state courts.

>>126222917
Still a shithole. Even the suburbs are going to hell.

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>>126222917
>is this just a massive taxpayer funded virtue signal / cultural demoralization attempt?
Yep. City is still shit and in need of repair from Katrina (still), but the city government sees these statues as a bigger concern than the large chunks of street that are breaking away everyday.
Some places are virtually untouched since the storm, like pic.

>>126222537
I don't live in the South so yeah I'm fine with how this works out, it's definitely worth watching "the civil war wasn't about slavery and the North was the real bad people :(" types cry more over their dumb contrarian revisionist history that should have been buried along with slavery in this country in the 1800s

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ITT: Stop teaching history because it reminds us of things we think are bad and scary

>>126223027
I'll probably get a car and don the colors jut for the sake of solidarity.
I don't want history to be forgotten.

>>126223312
>cry more over their dumb contrarian revisionist history
>as he defends history revision
>as he spouts history revision
Never really expected a yank to have any self awareness anyway.

>We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable. That in this free government all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding states.

-Texas deceleration of secession

>>126223020
>Motherfucker, our country was founded upon insurrection.
Yeah, and that's an insurrection we won.

And you know what we did afterward? Kicked all the fucking Loyalists out of the country.

Should have shipped the Confederates to Africa. If they wanted slaves that badly they'd surely appreciate being closer to the supply.

"You cannot sedate all the things you hate."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV4eZBNJn4I

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>That feel when the cemeteries are maintained better than the roads
Amazing what private ownership does to a place.

>>126223599
manson is such a huge faggot lol

>>126219017
now this is a meme of mass disruption

>>126223513
Yankees can't into critical thinking at all.

>>126223513
I agree the south loved that men, he was his general even if he lost he did what he could, destroying the statue it's denying them the right to not like how they were steam rolled by the yanks.

>>126223591
Many left on their own to brazil faggot
brazil is more american than the north is

>>126223591
>they'd surely appreciate being closer to the supply.
The supply was (((NYC))), no need to go to Africa.
>another yank that doesn't know history
Color me surprised

>>126222593
Which is why my reply wasn't related to that. Both sides were racist. Certainly by today's standards. The difference was related to the economics and the north wanting to protect the jobs of whites while compete economically with Europe. The southerners were free traders that sold the materials to both the north and Europe at the same price. Similar goods made in the north cost more. Leaving didn't mean slavery wouldn't end. In fact some abolishonists didn't support the war initially because they thought it would end slavery faster plus clean their hands of it. But slavery is why we have blacks in the US. So to the extent it did any good or not is how you feel about that.

>>126223394
i thought about pulling a stunt like that, if it weren't for the huge amount of trouble it would cause me.
Its a damn shame too

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>Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.

Alexander Stephens, Confederate Vice President, March 21st 1861

>>126223312
>By an unexpected turn of our history, a bit of the truth, an
insignificant part of the whole, was allowed out in the open. But
those same hands which once screwed tight our handcuffs now
hold out their palms in reconciliation: “No, don’t! Don’t dig up
the past! Dwell on the past and you’ll lose an eye.”

>But the proverb goes on to say: “Forget the past and you’ll
lose both eyes.”

Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn

THE GULAG
ARCHIPELAGO

>>126223753
>destroying the statue it's denying them the right to not like how they were steam rolled by the yanks.
That is good for (((them))). It allows them to paint the confederates in a more gruesome tone if they can hide how one sided the war actually was.

every fucking culture has skeletons in their closet. Humans are by nature brutal creatures. We might as well just erase every aspect of human history lest it offend someone because it will eventually.
Fuck even churches had the crusades. Do we rip down Catholic churches and ban the cross now because it offends Muslims ? This kind of retarded shit really makes my blood boil.

Is anyone here interested in a campaign to get the Albert Pike statue removed from Washington DC...? We just need to find a DC area local ideally a black person who is a community organizer to get convinced that this freemason leader and traitor albert pike was a white supremacist and thus needs to be removed. albert pike was a satanist too, who predicted the islamic invasion of europe. he also said that nazi-ism would be built up to crush nationalism and make zionism the only acceptable form of nationalism in the second half of the 20th century. Those weren't his exact words but.. he also predicted the fall of the Tsar of Russia and rise of communism. Basically lots of protocols of zion shit.

LIVE RIGHT NOW!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SR61kVsnzQ

>>126223871
north was threatening to take property unjustly in the american territories
we have the constitution of a reason, the north didnt want to follow it so it led to civil war

>>126222424
>The didn't want any blacks.
A position any sane person can agree with.

>>126216489
It's been an ongoing issue for two years. There have been lawsuits and protests, but the liberal government manhandled their way through it all. The really sad thing is that they're justifying it on a version of history that is wrong. Anything that shines a positive light on the South is being targeted over the past few years in an attempt to rewrite history. Most attempts to stop it have been neutralized by heavy handed liberal governments.

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>>126216407
HAHAHAHAHAHA BURGER IS KEKED BEYOND BELIEF

>>126223312
Well my family lived in the north, then moved south, and were in Germany when the American civil war took place. We didn't own slaves or know anyone who did. We wuz train engineers. Still, the real history is interesting and the fairytale is kinda remarkable.

>>126216617
> because he's a traitor to his country
> says the colony that rebelled against their British government

Isn't great how we can make arguments for something when it suits us! You are part of the reason humanity can never learn and is doomed to repeat history.

>>126216489
The left will not stop until each last little bit of white male history is erased. Just wait a few years, and they will demolish antique buildings as well, just like ISIS. In order to control society, you have to control not only the current narratives, but also history. We'll see them burn books in no time, they are already banning them.

As for why nobody rises up, it's the same as it is over here, most people are brainwashed and the rest is lazy or afraid. Especially the right is often way too traditional and has a job or family to lose if they get locked up, apart from the whole "acting against authority" thing.

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>>126221583
Insightful comment.

This is live video of the statue, folks. Gonna happen soon.

>>126224170
Don't feed him. Everything he is linking says exactly why the south wanted to part from the north, but he will never admit it because the word
>slave
is also written as a reason. Arguing with him is pointless, he is blind to the truth.

>>126219842
We're not "destroying them all." Just the crappy confederate ones.

>>126224170
>stopping the spread of slavery into the west is bad.

>>126216617
I'm a Northerner and even I think this is wrong.

>>126221583
>actual real US culture
Can't have that, now can we. Don't forget that America has no culture, goy!

>>126224364
I'm giving you what the Confederate proudly said themselves. They fought for slavery and made no secret of it. Only after the war did southerners deny it.

>>126224371
>taking property without just compensation is good

>>126222394
Orthodoxy, I presume? They had a habit of destroying things way back when. They even destroyed their own things when the Iconoclasts were about.

Churches, Crusades, Millions died, inquisitions, etc.
It's called fucking history, FFS.

The idiots who allow this would rather trade their past for a fucking androgynous, neutered non-culture were everyone is the same.

well news flash, you can take down the statues but you can't change the past.

>>126224365
But the outrage industry will never stop.

>>126224560
What property did they take?

>>126224491
>They fought for slavery
and a dozen other things that are inherently related to slavery, like an independent economy and autonomy.
Yet you will not consider any of these other valid reasons, because you only care about slavery.
Your goals are tainted by politics, and as such you shouldn't be involved in the discussion of history, as your types tend to be the ones that revise history when it needs to be preserved for all to see.

>>126220370
Look up Chancellorville.

>>126224127
Blood's boiling right now.

Snowflakes so triggered they force the government to remove history. Eventually History itself will be racist.

>>126224127
I never thought I'd see the day when niggers and mexicans would be removing historical monuments in the south.

>>126217799
this is not a hitler thread m9

>>126220537

there really is no reason to obfuscate history, good or bad. we all know (((theyre))) only removing it to spite white american history in order to set up (((their))) own """history"""

so fucking foolish. this is like watching a book burning

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>>126216617
>refused to take up arms against his native state
>traitor

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I hate this country. Robert E. Lee was one of the greatest generals in our history. He's up there with George Washington. Fuck him for not wanting to fight against his family, right?

>>126224689
>threatening to
obviously slaves duh

>>126216407
Wow that is insanity.

>>126224772
They are only allowed to do it because the Democrats have bought out the entire political apparatus in the south, especially in the cities.
Clinton did a good number on us in the 90s. Our local governments are essentially powerless to interest outside of our state.

>>126216617
I'm from the Dixie, and you're absolutely right.

>>126223939
In the end that's what matters doesn't it?

One side was right the other wrong, simpler.

>>126223312
Jamal?

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>>126220914
A platform for niggers to perch on.
Fitting.

Please tell me they are putting him in museum. I hope it's in a Smithsonian. It's a fucking travesty of they melt it down or just let it gather dust in a warehouse.

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>>126217287
So you support the systematic murder of an entire group of people? I suppose you'd like to meet this mustached Austrian guy I know, he's all about genocide and would probably make you one of his generals.

>>126225003
>In the end that's what matters doesn't it?
Nope. You can't deny the facts of our reality and our history. Doing so only ensures that such events WILL be repeated in the future.
The only reason they don't repeat is because we have reminders to us as to what exactly such circumstances means. Without such reminders, however, the lessons will be forgotten, and have to be relearned.
They are essentially adding tinder to an already large pile. The real question is what will be the spark.

>>126217959
Idolitry is a sin

americans are so cucked lol


>b-b-but muh gunzzzz

>>126225209
The subhumans rule the Earth now, no longer Western man. We'll take our revenge on the slaves one day, no need to worry.

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>>126223939
Really activated my almonds.

>>126225175
>just let it gather dust in a warehouse.
Hate to break it to you, but it is sitting in some unknown warehouse until someone pays Landreiu off so they can take it.
That statue is not going to a place where it can be seen again. They never do.

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Godspeed burgers. Our local communists are pushing very hard to exhume and take out the corpse of Franco from his resting place in the Vale of the Fallen right now. They just won't stop until they've rewritten all of history.

>taking out parts of your history because you hurts your fee fees
Ameritards, everyone.

Well democrats lost the war. So they can decide what to do with their statues. The only reason republicans defended the heritage aspect is democrats would rally voters against them if they suggested removing flags and shit. Only as far back as the 90s did democrats run a republican out of office for suggesting the battleflag be removed from their state flag. Just as they win the argument, they pull the football away and attack anyone defending these things.

>>126225175
A museum or relocation. Then again New Orleans is garbage.

By the way, these statues aren't going to a "museum" as that nigger mayor would have it known. They are going straight to the trash, I saw it yesterday.

>>126220370
>Napoleon wasn't good at his job
>He lost at Waterloo

>>126216407
say it with me:

THOSE

WHO

DO

NOT

LEARN

FROM

HISTORY

ARE

DOOMED

TO

REPEAT

IT

Someone should bankroll a confederate Museum. Would that even be allowed ? Does freedom of expression even exist anymore?

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keep talking about a stupid statue on a thread made by a monkey..meanwhile outside the /pol/ bubble

hahahahahahahahahahahahahhhaa

>>126217365
lincoln is next. screenkike this

>>126217799

The very fact there was a civil war contributed to the individual state rights the US sees today. The war was unavoidable.

>>126225813
That's good for Trump, you retard. That is exactly what Trump has set Comey up to do, and he is taking the bait like the retard he is.
At least some good news is coming from today.

>>126225796
bad goy. very racist.

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>>126219672
Oh Ya? What amendment??

Wait so are Italians going to start taking down Roman monuments of Augustus because he enslaved people?

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>>126225677
We'd just abandon it like you fuckers but it's in the middle of town.

>>126225743
https://twitter.com/LaurenBaleWWLTV/status/864937237598916609

I can't handle these feels lad, this is so wrong. I would ask how we got to this point, but I already know the answer. Some uplifting music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kWADI4umuM

>>126226110
>mayor is a lying shitbag
>Democrat
Woah, what a surprise.

I'm hoping the only reason those demolition workers weren't skull fucked by a .308 is because patriots realized New Orleans is a liberal nigger shit hole that should have been washed out to sea with katrina, and it wasn't worth saving.

>>126225796
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War_Museum#Museum_of_the_Confederacy

>>126225917
WUT? States rights was the reason the states should have been allowed to leave the union. With some northern states insisting they have that ability before they joined. Thus granting that right to all states. The war was a major turn towards federalism.

>>126225813
As if he has anything to say. Just more posturing and dick measuring.

>>126220370
>Rosenwald
Seems trustworthy

>>126226053
Monuments, praising an occupational army or a anti-bulgarian ideology should be taken down.

>>126226397
He knows some really interesting facts, that coud get good.

If you wish to destroy a people, take away their history from them. With each artifact that is stripped from your halls, you lose a part of yourself.
North were retards for fighting states that wanted to secede (when Brits are authoritarian=bad, but not when we do it); South were retards for importing niggers and not castrating them like the Arabs.

LIVE RIGHT NOW!!! SCUM CHEERING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SR61kVsnzQ

Here fucking hangs western civilization

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Serves those Burgers right for making us deny our history.

>>126226461
And this monument praises both an occupying army and an unAmerican ideology.

The CSA and slavery both need to stay dead.

>>126216617
How was this country made again

>>126225931
>that ole 4d ches again

>>126226571
Holy shit. Fucking sad.

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>>126225175

>>126217799
So we should all just forget it ever happened? What a great idea! Why don't we omit all of the Civil War from the history books, too? Would you like to continue pretending it never happened? Let's remove the Holocaust too! Then, since nobody remembers that it happened, we can do it again! Such genius, man! You should be the president of the Vichy government for that!
In all seriousness, stop trying to tear pages out of the history books, or it's going to happen again. Statues, flags, whatever, you can't just burn it all away and pretend it didn't happen or you'll enable the Hitlers and Confederates of the world to do it again.