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Followers of Christ, we must protect the christendom

DEUS VULT
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b-but the pope licks refugee feet
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>>126216004

Its uh... simple. We get a new Pope.
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>>126216282
this
COME FELLOW CHRISTIANS
COME TO THE LAND OF THE SOUTH
WE WILL FORM AN ARMY
AND THEN TAKE BACK THE HOLY CITIES
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>>126215918
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>>126215918
Is it true catholic school girls are into anal to keep their virginity for marriage and avoid pregnancy without contraception?
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>>126215918
Repeal Vatican II

Latin Mass all day
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>you burn the heretics just right
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>>126215918
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>>126215918

We need a new Pope. I haven't given the Church a dime since he revealed what he really is.

Deus Vult!
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>>126216615
Ask you mother, mr. anally born.
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>>126217196
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>>126215918
At no point in my life did I ever think I'd defend Christianity.
I am now ready to defend the fucking cross.
DEUS VULT.
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Usual links etc

Here are your daily readings
http://usccb.org/bible/readings/051917.cfm

Community links, such as recommended media, are now below in pastebin links. Remember to recommend things to add to the lists!
>Catholic Encyclopedia
http://www.newadvent.org/
>Online Breviary
http://divinumofficium.com/cgi-bin/horas/officium.pl
>Directory for Finding a Latin Mass (U.K)
https://lms.org.uk/mass-listings
>Directory for Finding a Latin Mass (U.S/Can)
http://www.ecclesiadei.org/masses.cfm
>Laudate App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aycka.apps.MassReadings&hl=en
>Recommended Movies
http://pastebin.com/xAL9w4fk
>Recommended Books
http://pastebin.com/K8DUUPdC
>Recommended Music
http://pastebin.com/dgqjiSgs
>Beauty of Creation
http://pastebin.com/VKGZEvXK
>Tales of Love and Virtue
http://pastebin.com/Qt3RUsXA
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A YouTuber I follow had a stream with a Catholic chick who talks about the JQ. Check her out. https://youtu.be/59HauEY7JE0
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>It firmly believes, professes, and proclaims that those not living within the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics cannot become participants in eternal life, but will depart “into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels” [Matt. 25:41], unless before the end of life the same have been added to the flock; and that the unity of the ecclesiastical body is so strong that only to those remaining in it are the sacraments of the Church of benefit for salvation, and do fastings, almsgiving, and other functions of piety and exercises of Christian service produce eternal reward, and that no one, whatever almsgiving he has practiced, even if he has shed blood for the name of Christ, can be saved, unless he has remained in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.
>oy vey goy, you got to be in the One-and-Only True Catholic Church of God™, otherwise it's straight to hellfire with you!
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Fuck Bergoglio, communist, globalist piece of shit!
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PEACE BE WITH YOU
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Posting a response into thread >>126203509


>>126216698
revelations 2:2
2I know your deeds, your labor, and your perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate those who are evil, and you have tested and exposed as liars those who falsely claim to be apostles.

Psalm 116:11
I said in my haste, All men are liars.

typical catholic response
>satnaist
I pray to jesus christ, and read my bible what kind of person are you to falsely accuse me of being a satanist? you are no follower of christ, and ignore his teachings

Mathew 16
6 Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

7 And they reasoned among themselves, saying, It is because we have taken no bread.

8 Which when Jesus perceived, he said unto them, O ye of little faith, why reason ye among yourselves, because ye have brought no bread?

9 Do ye not yet understand, neither remember the five loaves of the five thousand, and how many baskets ye took up?

10 Neither the seven loaves of the four thousand, and how many baskets ye took up?

11 How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees?

12 Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

quit eating the leaven of the pharisees.

>>126217125
and yes, I did, and the way to fight witchcraft is with prayer, and fasting, its the heavy artillery against such practices, you would know this if you read your bible, and there is nothing to admire about the catholic church, who burned far too many innocents alive, and anally tortured people "in the name of christ" anyone who can tell the difference between the bible and a doorknob would know this. Matthew 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
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>>126217363

It's funny how god throws curveballs like that at his followers right? Was hardcore fedora myself just a few years ago. Not a doubt in my mind what is what these days tho.

DEUS VULT
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>>126215918
Crusade yes
done by another catholics or any other religion no.
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Catholicism isn't real Christianity and Catholics are closer to Talmudic Judaism than lovers of Christ. Off yourselves collectively please.
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>>126217196
>>126217354
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>>126218768
i just brought this up int he last thread.
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>>126216615
>>126216880
>>126216940
>>126217196
>>126217354
>>126217937
>>126218768

*blocks your path*
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>>126216615
Not really. Not all the girls that went to my school were openly very religious, about 1/3. Of those, the hypocrites, I wouldn't know.
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>>126219080
>uses quran as a distraction to walk by.
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>>126216004
>being a Roman Cucklick
>ever

They wouldn't be of use.
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>>126218971
It's just so obvious to me. Ironically the Catholic Church is the most sex-obsessed which is why the girls in it are so damn prideful. They think because they are virgins they are holy while being otherwise arrogant human beings. Don't even get me started on the bizarre rituals.
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>>126216615
my gf is a virgin but does nothing like that. To be fair she likes me enough that I could probably convince her to take her virginity (I am a 10/10 chad) but I am not a degenerate so I am not going to do it unless we're married

>>126219449
schlomo pls, take your astroturfing meme pictures somewhere else
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>>126218857
>>126219080
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>>126218768
Evangelical Christians are the worst. Don't you have a megachurch to tithe at?
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>>126218971
>>126219611
>>126219634

>american hours
>(((they))) come out in force

geez, I wonder who's behind these posts. You can't fight against God anons. His Church will suffer, but will never perish. You'll find that out soon enough.
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>>126219836
Is that Santa?
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>>126218467
This

the blessed catholic church doing Jesus' work by burning people at the stake who disagree with their ideas.

Oh and torturing them cruelly. Nothing says the body of Christ like torture!
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>>126219627
>astroturfing
>picture of popes venerating the quran, a book of pedophillia and goat fucking is astroturfing
>implying the roman catholic church didn't invent Islam

revelations 2:2
2I know your deeds, your labor, and your perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate those who are evil, and you have tested and exposed as liars those who falsely claim to be apostles.

>implying one verse in the bible doesn't BTFO your little false graph
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>leaf
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>>126219774
What, do we believe in God a little too much for you?
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>>126219836
I'm not fighting against God. I'm waiting for his people to come out of the whore of babylon. who blaspheme Christ and God regularly.
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>Acts 16:31: And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
>Romans 1:17-18: For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
>Romans 3:28: Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
>Romans 4:5: But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
>Romans 5:1: Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
>Romans 10:9: That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
>Romans 11:6: And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
>Romans 14:23: …for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.
>1 Corinthians 1:21: For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
>Galatians 2:16: Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
>Galatians 2:21: I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
>Galatians 3:8: And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
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>>126218168
AND WITH YOUR SPIRIT
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>>126220105
america, aka istitutionalized protestantism is the whore of babylon. Last I checked Catholics didn't go around in the middle east letting their young people die for Israel. Kys americuck
>b-but muh literalist and ignorant interpretation of the Bible
you don't understand the Bible m8, the way americans interpret it makes me cringe to the bone
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>>126220342
>Galatians 5:4-5: Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
>Ephesians 1:13-14: In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
>Ephesians 2:8-10: For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
>Philippians 3:9: And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
>1Timothy 1:1: Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.
>Titus 3:5: Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
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>>126219627
>I could probably convince her to take her virginity (I am a 10/10 chad) but I am not a degenerate so I am not going to do it unless we're married
Fresh off the boat, huh Ahmed?
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>>126220332
>>126220342
>>126220427
>american theology and education
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>>126219774
Who said i was evangelical? Kys.
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Romans 10
9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Romans 3
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:
30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
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>>126215918
As long as the Pope considers himself infallible then I will not recognize Catholics as part of the true Christendom.
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>>126219836
The Catholic Chruch helped (((them))) out in ww2. They also strongly opposed our Lord and Savior Adolf Hitler. Kys
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>>126220532
I was just pointing out that chastity involves both man and woman, it's not just about women "being sluts". I am 100% italian so I don't get your remarks. A muslim would have no problem fucking a girl outside marriage, they are degenerates. They only get married to appease their families because they have a sense of family, no inner reason, only peer pressure. Something completely different from Catholic morality, that instead comes from inside the individual that tries to be in communion with God.
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John 3
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Ephesians 2
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Act 16
30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
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>>126219836
My Santa looks better then yours.
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>>126220342
Stop posting this misleading image; your God despises this.

>>126220427
Faith and works go together. Read James
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>>126220357
>not understanding the "Holy" Roman empire is a pagan empire
>catholics only defense is to accuse you of not knowing the bible, and can't use daniel 7-9, or revelations to identify the beast with 10 horns and whore of babylon.

american theology is a LOT better than catholic theology.
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>>126220738
The Pope doesn't consider himself infallible. He's perfectly capable of making mistakes.
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>>126215918
Start with 96% roman catholic Venezuela, cuck.
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really makes you think
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MUH CHOSEN PEOPLE (catholics) ARE THE ONLY GOOD PEOPLE ON EARTH. ALSO MUSLIMS.
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>>126220776
The Church only opposed Hitler when he went full Talmud and started claiming that germans had superior DNA. Eugenics were invented by jews ffs, it's what the base their whole religion on.
The jews have been trying to destroy the Church since the beginning. I don't even hate them for it, I just find it funny that americans who are the shaboos goy for exellence, and protestants in general who literally founded freemasonry to conspire with the jews against the Catholic Church keep attacking the Church for being pro-jew. Lmaoing at your life, for real.
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>implying this isn't Idol worship.
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>>126220939
>Doesn't realize James 2 was talking about Abraham being justified to man and not to God
>hasn't read Romans 4
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>>126220939
The Catholic Church is corrupt and goes against The Bible's teachings. Catholics all over the world are being misled. This is the truth.
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Guys give me a verse to read. I've been reading my bible one chapter/verse a night before I sleep to think on it. It scared me at first because the first one I read talked about how the lord would send foreigners to destroy the lands and people of some group because they began to become decadent and forsake god. I picked it by random and forgot the verse, if anyone knows, please share.
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>>126221072
>what is papal infallibility
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>>126221171
Wrong. They opposed Hitler for correctly placing himself next to Jesus. The (((pope))) doesn't want to lose his power and shekels.
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>>126220797
Just bantz, amicus. Good on you, save it until marriage, God willing.
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>>126221158
man, its almost like the catholic church invented Islam or something.
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>>126220847
your santa is a faggot that could only kill another norwegian man because he was the only one as beta and weak as him

>>126220908
nice meme, turn it around and it become true

>>126220955
>muh paganism
there's no american theology, it's literal autism by bumpking preachers in fuck-all alabama wearing suits and preaching from laundromats.
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>>126221213
what app is this?
>>126221329
they came up with a rule 140 years ago that says it only counts if he's speaking from the big boy chair, when they realized the papacy keeps contradicting itself and scripture
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>>126215918
I haven't been to mass in 15 years
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>>126220908
The KJV onlyist fundamental baptist church near me literally got caught molesting little boys. The pastor was replaced but then a deacon did the same thing.
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>>126221378
>They opposed Hitler for correctly placing himself next to Jesus
>correctly placing himself next to Jesus
kys

>The (((pope))) doesn't want to lose his power and shekels.
The pope has no powers, and doesn't have a lot of shekels either. The Catholic Church earns 6 billion per year that gets distributed for charity and to pay priest wages, nothing else. Fucking Ripple has more money than the Catholic Church. Why am I even discussing with an evangelical troll? Keep being an ignorant nigger and suffer the results, your loss
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>>126221543
>having to resort to attacking the other churches when the poster you're talking to is non-denominational
>not realizing the catholic church has a 6continent pedophilia ring, and vatican city is homosexual centreal.
>still hasn't read daniel, and used the 18 keys given to identify the roman catholic church as the beast with 10 horns.
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>>126221213
It's not talking about men; you'd have to really butcher your reading of it to think that.
And there are many other quotes that say that not all those who believe in God will be saved.
You have to have the proper relationship with God, not merely intellectual belief. Which means doing good deeds and serving God
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Good links all fellow Catholics must watch

https://youtu.be/MzrVCdtJ1WQ
https://youtu.be/1qX9dn1l4d8
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>>126221942
>NIV
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>>126216740
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>>126222060
>>126221942
https://youtu.be/53BN9tTDoCw
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>>126221867
Once again not evangelical. Also nice racism mr. Holy.
>pope has no power
>what are millions of retards in roman catholic church
>what is changing tradition to invite gays and muslims for more shekels
Also, kys is not an argument. How do you know that Hitler wasn't the secind coming? You don't because you arent god, just a wannabe Christian.
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>>126221518
you people can't be real, there is obviously an orchestrated effort to meddle waters and and catch the attention of low-intelligente people on this board with your meme pictures

>>126221926
>non-denominational
which means you are a protestant that wants to be a special snowflake. Tumblr is that way anon.
>>not realizing the catholic church has a 6continent pedophilia ring, and vatican city is homosexual centreal.
nice meme. Abuses in the Catholic Church don't happen any more often than in protestant or non-denominational churches. It's all fabricated uproar like the (((press))) does for Trump or for anyone that opposes their power.
>>still hasn't read daniel, and used the 18 keys given to identify the roman catholic church as the beast with 10 horns.
The 10 horns are a symbol for the 10 commandments, indicating pure degeneracy. Has nothing to do with the Church which is the only force still promoting abstinence, no use of contraceptives, is against abortion and gay marriage etc. etc.
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>>126222135
>>126216740
>when burning heretics is unscriptural, and you're suppose to pray for them, bless them, and love them

hows it feel to contradict the word of god?
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>>126222135

Basically me.
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>>126221543
>mainline protestant denomination
filthy, almost as bad as catholics
>>126221867
from earlier in the same chapter
>And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
>The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven.
>HE WASN'T SPEAKING METAPHORICALLY GOYS, HE REALLY IS BREAD! NOW REPEATEDLY CANNIBALIZE YOUR SAVIOUR'S CORPSE!
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>>126221942
>>126222060
>>126222205
Also did you read the passenge of Romans 4 here >>126221213 that I linked?
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>>126222307
>Infidel
Wow you really are no better than mudshits.
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>>126215918
Edgy atheist my whole life, I'm ready to convert. Where/how do I start?
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>>126218467
>muh leven of pharisees

This is the kajillioth time this week I've been called a Pharisee. OY VEY

Good Pharisees
1. Hillel
2. Gamaliel
3. Saul/Paul

This is such a meme but I really do enjoy this insult. kekekekekek

>fight witchraft with prayer.
>burning innocents

Well that's on you to prove, you're going to have to give us good reason to believe that a Legal Institution full very rulebooks based off of Torah, which is good to make things extra sure.
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>>126222344

> "Bible is infallible and final autorithy"
> Removes books

Protestants should be the last to point fingers about contradicting the word of God.
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>>126222566
read KJV bible
read sermon on the mount first
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>>126220908
your graph is backwards there pal :^)
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>>126220357
The United States of America is indeed the Whore of Babylon.

Some of God's children unfortunately live within her.

But Christianity isn't "The Whore of Babylon," and the Catholic Church is corrupt.
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>>126222736
This is copy pasta. Kys shill.
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>>126222272
>>what are millions of retards in roman catholic church
Catholicism is bigger than a single Pope. You would know if you knew the slightest thing about Catholicism. But that's the problem: you don't. You just like to spout your ignorant opinions and pollute the minds of other ignorant people like you. Because you're a tool, a literal retard that is used by others to destroy the truth. But the truth can't be destroyed anon, sorry to disappoint you.
>what is changing tradition to invite gays and muslims for more shekels
which he never did. Dogma about gays and muslims hasn't changed, and he did nothing to change it. The only things he did regarding gays is to forbid them from entering seminaries even if they remain chaste, that's literally his only active action that involves gays since he's been a Pope. Saying "hi" back to a gay person who said "hi" to him isn't an active action towards gays like your (((media))) wants you to believe.

>How do you know that Hitler wasn't the secind coming?
t.john goldberg

>You don't because you arent god, just a wannabe Christian.
go to bed anon-san

>>126222404
>>HE WASN'T SPEAKING METAPHORICALLY
he wasn't speaking metaphorically at all. The only reason why you think so is because when your heretics split off form the Church they lost apostolic succession and thus the authority to administer proper sacraments; so they made up a whole theology about why you don't actually need those sacraments. Your ideas are literally the result of traditions of men. you aren't any better than mormons in my eyes, same kind of retardness and ill-intentions.
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>>126218467
Also You need to give evidence that proves that John was not an Apostle of Jesus christ.

he was called the Beloved Apostle, that's no insult. He was the deadliest force against Gnosticism and we have lots of sources proving that and more.

Even the gnostics had to admit that the Gospel of John was cannon and yet it put their works to shame.

No Church Father has ever said the gnostic gospels are canon and all but one are from like 200 or 300s and onwards
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>>126222307
it means I don't really agree with the protestant movement either.

non-denominational implies one doesn't follow a church

there are whistleblowers that come from the vatican that paint the picture to be a lot worse than you could ever imagine. Nuns have come out saying ordained catholic priests have been making them fuck animals, and demons.

>brings up a point that has nothing to do with the 18 keys of daniel chapters 7-9

>>126222748
the Vatican removed 14 books in 1648, and have been attacking the book of Esther, and Genesis.
>not realizing i include the gospel of thomas, the gospel of judas, and the gospel of mary magdalen, and many books banned by the council of nicea in my cannon
>not realizing I include the apocrypha with my king james.

catholics are idiots, real idiots.
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>>126222877
>I have come to fulfill the law that you know nothing about because you haven't read it.
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>>126222566
Start going to mass. Find a mass you like. Then talk to the priest and ask what you need to do. If the parish is tradtionalist, then you will get lessons directly from a priest. If it is a normal parish you'll be expected to attend RCIA classes.

You might also want to read a catechism. http://www.baltimore-catechism.com/ is good.
You can buy it from amazon as "Baltimore Catechism 3" If you want a hard copy. Teaches you all about the Catholic faith.
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>>126222408
Yep. Abraham is justified by faith, but it's faith that goes with works. Faith means works; it's practically the same thing.
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>>126215918

God doesn't exist. 2000 years after the 'alleged' death of 'christ' and we now have digital photography.

How many pictures of angels, demons, divinity in any form?
>0

Christianity will rapidly decline from this point on, now that we are once again advanced enough to accept hard evidence as truth, and that evidence comes in the form of technological recordings.

Accept the truth, christcucks. There is no God.

There is only The Dweller, and he isn't even from this planet.
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>>126222971
I post all the time on Christian threads its no copy pasta. Although I do have copy pasta for other reasons, but only when it is truly relevant and needed.
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>>126223123
Ephesians 2

5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

8For by GRACE are ye saved through FAITH; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast.
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>>126223136
I've come to understand that Thoth and Christ are one in the same. when you remove the Idol, and focus on the teachings, they are one in the same. the Dweller is directly connected to God.
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>>126215918
>mfw i'm an atheist but i don't get triggered as fuck about Christianity like most atheists do
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>>126223136
>I need photographs of everything I won't believe
Do you believe in Alexander the Great?
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Also Jean de Valette
Richard the Lionheart
Saint Louis King of France
King Baldwin
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>>126223297
You will be spared on the day of the grill, but not on the day of judgement
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>>126222566
Pray. True conversion comes from the heart, not by fancy discourses.
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Went to daily mass today.
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>>126223297
>most atheists

>mfw people like you and me are most athesists
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>>126223392
>No Genghis Khan
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>>126222997
The Catholic church is corrupted. Everything written in The Bible itself should have woken you up to this fact.

Fucking Catholics. Their practices go directly against The Lord and yet they keep being pretenders of keeping the faith.
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>>126222997
>>>126222272 (You)
>>>what are millions of retards in roman catholic church
>Catholicism is bigger than a single Pope. *Autistic screeches insults that mean nothing*
Catholics are dogs. Nothing more.
>>what is changing tradition to invite gays and muslims for more shekels
>>How do you know that Hitler wasn't the secind coming?
>t.john goldberg
Hitler hated Jews. How the fuck do you get that I am a Jew shill from that?
>>>126222404
>>>HE WASN'T SPEAKING METAPHORICALLY
>he wasn't speaking metaphorically at all. The only reason why you think so is because when your heretics split off form the Church they lost apostolic succession and thus the authority to administer proper sacraments; so they made up a whole theology about why you don't actually need those sacraments. Your ideas are literally the result of traditions of men. you aren't any better than mormons in my eyes, same kind of retardness and ill-intentions.

Keep repeating a lie doesn't make it true. I would never follow a man that told his followers to literally eat him. That is not the Jesus I know.
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>>126215918

kys christcucks
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Why do different sects of Christianity continue to infight here? I always seem to see super defensive Catholics and Protestants attacking each other here
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>>126223488
Kek checked
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>>126222504
>hurr durr you don't subscribe to relativism and actually have strong beliefs
>muslims have strong beliefs too
>therefore you are a muslim even if your beliefs are different
wtf I hate being coherent and not a hypocrite now

>>126223086
>it means I don't really agree with the protestant movement either.
it only means you are a son of perdition that thinks he is the arbiter of ultimate truth. Professing yourself wise, you became a fool. It's just you don't realise it because you bend truth to your feelings rather than fighting for truth amongst the mess of this world. You are a coward, like all non-denominationals, or a lazy and an ignorant that simply doesn't want to have his opinions refuted. You pick.
>non-denominational implies one doesn't follow a church
Chirst founded a Church for a reason, you are nobody to say you don't need that Church despite God creating one. Your loss. Nobody cares.
>there are whistleblowers that come from the vatican
there are whistleblowers everyday on news media claiming that Trump is actually putin in drags and that he sucks his own cock before going to bed. I guess we're all hating Trump now, aren't we?
>Nuns have come out saying ordained catholic priests have been making them fuck animals, and demons.
Stop reading meme websites on the internet ffs, have some decency you fucking idiot. You have a brain, use it.
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>>126222877
Thank you. Why read this particular bible?
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>>126223392
>decent men who did not realize the catholic church invented Islam, and had to clean up the churches mess.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI4lkqYzJvM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlr90NLDp-0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxjYWvF5ttc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhP654dN3Ww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ych_dTX8G0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX9xVnHYFAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_gaT-tnpKk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-5mx5o8YYs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf3scPRLGFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKpexxzR4Ak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6JJCaf9e7c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNMQu5LXaeI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJxRDhejtwo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dV5b8AuLHg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRhRzdiCk7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sieHX3tPeRw
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catholicism is great. protestants are cringey as hell
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>>126222997
>I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
>HE REALLY WAS A PIECE OF BREAD THAT WAS ALIVE, JUST FOR US TO CHOW DOWN ON! DIG IN FOLKS, THIS AIN'T A METAPHOR FOR SALVATION OR CRUCIFIXICION, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW JESUS NEVER SPOKE METAPHORICALLY.
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>>126215918
DEUS BULGE
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>>126223596
It's mostly the Protestants being dicks. That's because their religion is based on protesting against catholics. So you get a lot of "whore of babylon" and "idolaters!" and stuff coming from them. So then the Catholics get mad and yell back. But it's basically Protestants fault.
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>>126223446
Nah most atheists or fedora tier. My sister is an atheist and she can't lesson to Johnny Cash without getting angry because he said god.
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>>126223729
>A house takes after it's father because a son knows his father's ways and a son loves his father's ways.
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>>126223292

The Dweller, from my educated opinion, is literally an alien. Thoth describes him as such, being very unlike Man.

Christ is a relatively new invention, unrelated to the aeon-old Thoth, though there are some similarities in narrative such as ressurection, Thoth comes and goes into the Halls of Amante as he pleases. He is unbound to the mortal coil we are tied to.

It amuses me that christcucks are either unwilling or mentally unable to look further than the last 2000 years, meanwhile Thoth has been reborn 3 times since the sinking of Atlantis.

Perhaps it's time to recover his space ship, buried deep beneath the Sphinx?
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>>126223291
And saying 'Lord, Lord' isn't your faith; your faith is made perfect through your works
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>>126223829
So protestants came from when Martin Luther rebelled against the church right? For stating that faith, not deeds were how you were able to get to heaven or something along those lines. What's the church that Jesus started(I have read Acts etc but I am curious what I can look up history wise to confirm the modern iteration of it today)
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Sup
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>>126223113
My (Christian) church in town now holds Islamic prayer. Ill check out the other thing you listed, thanks.
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>>126222566
You have to start speaking to God. Alone, by yourself in your room. A lot of people call this "prayer" and I think a lot of atheists don't exactly know what that is, so I'm explaining it more bluntly. Be open with God. Ask Him to show you the way.

Don't rely on a church. I think most churches are corrupt now. Rely on God alone.

Catholicism is not the way. It is a spiritual dead end and it is not the path to God.
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>>126223297
Well you are more than welcome here then.
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>>126223533
>The Catholic church is corrupted.
This world is all corrupted. The Church is partly in this word, that part is thus imperfect. But Catholicism is true, and if you reject the Church because it is imperfect, you are the same as those that abandoned Christ because he was on the cross. A coward, a pharisee, an apostate.
It's either the cross, or nothing. You won't find Christ somewhere else, just like you won't find him in another religion. You're only lying to yourself because you are too proudful too see where Christ is, despite its trouble in being part of the world.
> Everything written in The Bible itself should have woken you up to this fact.
Everything in the Bible has made me a Catholic. Your interpretations of men of the Bible have made you a heretic. Your loss, I really don't care.
>Fucking Catholics. Their practices go directly against The Lord and yet they keep being pretenders of keeping the faith.
t.satan

>>126223825
the greek word used tor "eat" in the NT literally means "chow down" you uneducated amerinigger. Sorry to disappoint you, that's literally what it means.
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>>126223989
Ok so shouldn't it be a combination of faith and selfless deeds done with humility and no boasting?
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>>126223376

If Alexander never existed would there be any consequences?

How many cities were named after christ again?
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>>126224079
Deus Vult
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>>126224273
Take your alien conspiracies to >>>/x/
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>>126223698
there's plenty of reasons, my favorite is its aesthetics. It inspired a lot of English sayings like this one:
"The Lord is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit”
before then, we never used the phrase "broken heart". It's the second biggest source of English idioms after Shakespeare.
>>126224183
>amerinigger
you just murdered me anon
>The Pope said we have “a very creative vocabulary for insulting others” but stressed that such insults are a sin and are akin to killing because they are giving a slap to our brother’s soul and to his dignity. Noting the presence of several children at the Mass, Pope Francis urged them to stay calm, saying the preaching of a child in a church is much more beautiful than that of a priest, bishop or of the Pope.
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>>126223667
>it only means you are a son of perdition that thinks he is the arbiter of ultimate truth
false, I know i know nothing, and can only resort to the word of god for the ultimate truth


>t's just you don't realise it because you bend truth to your feelings rather than fighting for truth amongst the mess of this world. You are a coward, like all non-denominationals, or a lazy and an ignorant that simply doesn't want to have his opinions refuted. You pick.

>resorting to attacking my character in the light of the fact you don't know the difference between the bible and a doorknob

>Chirst founded a Church for a reason, you are nobody to say you don't need that Church despite God creating one. Your loss. Nobody cares.

and that church is not the roman catholic church which did not take its form until around 300AD, all 12 disciples started churches, and according to matthew 18, all the disciples were given keys to the kingdom of heaven. and Jesus cares.

>there are whistleblowers everyday on news media claiming that Trump is actually putin in drags and that he sucks his own cock before going to bed. I guess we're all hating Trump now, aren't we?
>Stop reading meme websites on the internet ffs, have some decency you fucking idiot. You have a brain, use it.

When you use your brain, you can tell the difference between false testimony, and true testimony.

you have replaced the teachings of Christ with an Idol.
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>>126224032
The Church that Christ Himself started is the Catholic Church. He founds it in the Gospel of Matthew upon the head of Simon Peter:

>When Jesus went into the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?”

>They replied, “Some say John the Baptist, others Elijah, still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”

>He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”

>Simon Peter said in reply, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”

>Jesus said to him in reply, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” Then he strictly ordered his disciples to tell no one that he was the Messiah.
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>>126224152
>talking to yourself and expecting to hear voices in your head

This is called mental illness, christcuck.
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>>126224195
It's faith, but there needs to be a proper understanding of faith as a relationship. Some Prots really teach that once you call Jesus Lord you are saved forever
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>>126224481
NO he's a protestant
just pray the rosary its like meditation or something
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>>126215918
I'm not crusading until we get a new pope.
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>>126223538
>Catholics are dogs. Nothing more.
I see that you are out of arguments satan. I thought you were a master of lies? Looks like lies aren't so strong after all.
>Hitler hated Jews. How the fuck do you get that I am a Jew shill from that?
seems like you are absolutely unaware of how indoctrinated with (((good))) opinions you are. I suggest you get informed a bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5va4dq_gG3M&t=2s

>Keep repeating a lie doesn't make it true. I would never follow a man that told his followers to literally eat him. That is not the Jesus I know.
Like the pharisees you understand things in an earthly way, you don't understand the great schemes and the significance of the Eucharist. I am not suprised, protestantism (or non-denominationalism or whatever other sect you are part of) are mere judaizing heresies.
https://youtu.be/hJGV-RtMEsQ
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>>126224032
Jesus started the Catholic Church. The Bible was also compiled by Catholics. Protestants came in the 1500s with Martin "King Heretic" Luther, who said Sola fide and Sola Scriptura. 40,000 denominations later the Protestant churches are still splitting. The Catholic Church remains.
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>>126224481
test
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>>126223989
>using something that isn't KJV where it says the guys said there did many wonderful works and Jesus says he "never knew them"

>not knowing what God's will is
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>>126223989
>>126224631
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>>126224381

Does reality trigger you?

Religion buffoons are hardcore divinity LARPers.

There's more evidence of extra-planetary intelligence and even a spiritual universe than there has ever been or will be proof of your imaginary christian universe.
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>>126224079
>>126224333
>thinking Jesus would want you to build that over giving that money to the poor
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>>126223596
Because Catholics literally have practices that go against what The Bible teaches.

Their corrupt inner workings get leaked, an we are not surprised. If you are a true Christian, then Catholicism will offend you.
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>>126224816
nice try judas
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>>126224471
I appreciate your response, is there any literature that outlines the succession from the Church of Acts to today's modern Catholic church? I have been to various Baptist/Non Denominational Churches for years but I am curious.
>>126224499
Hmm, ok. I have prayed that same prayer multiple times in my life, I think that most folks need it more than once.
>>126224611
Ok I would just have the same question as I had for >>126224471 It isn't that I don't believe you but I wouldn't mind reading up on that as well.
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>>126224691
Take your meds or go to >>>/x/ with your insults and schizophrenia
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Good night brothers.
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>>126224152
I'm not very spiritual, but I feel drawn to something here. Thanks for your advice.
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>>126224816
Be silent, heretic
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>>126222344
This is not personal vegeance. I'm talking about a Theocratic Sate punishing them for their crimes.

And he said to them, “When I sent you out with no moneybag or knapsack or sandals, did you lack anything?” They said, “Nothing.” 36 He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one. 37 For I tell you that this Scripture must be fulfilled in me: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors.’ For what is written about me has its fulfillment.” 38 And they said, “Look, Lord, here are two swords.” And he said to them, “It is enough.”
So Jesus said to Peter, “Put your sword into its sheath; shall I not drink the cup that the Father has given me?”

>put it back
>not throw it away

Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

I'm talking about making witchraft a criminal offence in written law
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>>126224984

Christianity is the very definition of schizophrenia.

You literally believe you are some special snowflake and an invisible magic guy in the sky is going to give you special access to an amusement park for all eternity if you follow rules made up by other men.

You arent just mentally ill, youre immature and naive.

Try moving out of grannys basement and seeing the world for yourself. Ypu may actually develop as a person, further than muh bible muh word of god.
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>false, I know i know nothing, and can only resort to the word of god for the ultimate truth
you don't understand of God. The Word is not ink, it is spirit. Reading is not enough, just like reading the ingredients to a dish without knowing how to use them won't let you get the recipe right.

>memes and strawmen
All memes that would be good for illiterate paesants in the 16the century, but you really have no excuses in the current year, literally.
You can't use orthodox arguments (the keys given to everyone) to argue for non-demoniationalism. It's absolutely retarded. The part about 300ad is just not historical and completely made-up. Either way your theological ideas are traditions of men.
I didn't attack you, just pointed out who you are. If you don't like it change it, but don't blame me for point it out the truth. Just screaming "bible bible bible" won't make your arguments less heretic.
>When you use your brain, you can tell the difference between false testimony, and true testimony.
I can, that's the point. You clearly can't, and only accept for true what enables your ignorance and stupidity regardless of whether it's true or not.
>you have replaced the teachings of Christ with an Idol.
I am not a protestant, so no I haven't.
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>>126224816
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Can someone give me info on the guy thats said to take the place of Francis?
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>>126225362
>getting this triggered that nobody wants to hear about your alium stories
Calm down, you are clearly a bit unhinged here. Maybe take your reddit spacing back to r/athiesm where it belongs.
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>>126225420
>using verses from the Old Testament
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>>126224442
>hurr durr you used mean words to me
>you are a meanie and therefore wrong
I use the appropriate language for the medium. There's no point in treading lightly on a weaving board, especially when speaking to ill-intentioned, hardened heretic hearts that blaspheme the Church and attack Catholics. Whether you like it or not it's of no concern to me.

>captcha was literallt S.Peter
nice
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>>126222402
Many such cases.
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>>126223961
I think we're both talking about the dweller in the flesh, and yes, the dweller is very unlike man. the human must become the dweller, and the dwealler must use the flesh to serve the dweller, rather than using the dweller to serve the flesh, the soul is a totally alien concept to the nature of the human body, which wants to drink, eat, and fuck, while the soul wants to reconnect with its source.

>unrelated to the aeon-old Thoth

I promise you, when you remove the Idol, and pay attention to the teachings and wisdom you'll find they are the same soul who wants the best for humanity

>He is unbound to the mortal coil we are tied to.
I personally believe Jesus Chirst wrote the old testament, and gave the prophets their books letter by letter. and Christ teaches you to be unbound by the mortal coil. "Those who figure the interpretations of these teachings shall not taste death" gospel of thomas. I also believe that Jesus Christ wrote the Hindu scritpures, and that he and Krishna are the same person.

>thoth has been reborn 3 times
how many lives have either of us lived anon?

>Perhaps it's time to recover his space ship, buried deep beneath the Sphinx?
there's supposedly an ancient city underneath death valley. I plan on exploring it this summer after I'm done conditioning my body.
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I'm afraid to be honest with my priest.

I was an atheist for ~7 years and was very into atheist and antireligious activism. I did stuff I'm not proud of.

For the last 5 years I've practiced asatru and been involved in esoteric cults and heathen kindreds.

I'm afraid if I tell him all this he's gonna think I'm some weirdo. This is a pretty small town
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>>126224481
The media has for a long time denounced the voice of God. That's what those jewish lawyers tell serial killers to say in court, "oh it's the voices in my head! They tell me to kill people!"

They are trying to twist people away from it. Listen to the voice of God, it is a voice of reason. It will not tell you to kill or commit evil acts, unless you have literally gone out of your way to pray to devils.
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>>126225608

I was here long before reddit, lad. If anything, my prose is done with /pol/ spacing.
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Pray that the Holy Spirit comes upon Donald Trump while in Saudi Arabia and he realizes the call to crusade.
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>>126225802
for reference I'm unbaptized, been going to mass for six months
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>>126225684
>OT doesn't count
protestant theology everyone
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>>126224673
It'll be in KJV as well.
That section says >may; it doesn't imply you definitely will.
You can't ignore every part of the Bible you don't like
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>>126225504
The next Pope is rumored to be traditional; I can't wait for all the fake Catholics pretending to be Orthodox or Sedevacantist to start being loyal to the magisterium again and realize their conspiracy theories against Francis were just memes
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>>126224816
John 12:5

>>126225193
>Catholics: spend centuries building greatest buildings in human history in honour of God, transcribe Bibles by hand in works of art
>Protestants: keep the money for themselves, bang out abridged Bibles on cheap paper for cherry-picking, destroy what the Catholics made cos muh idolatry
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>>126226063
Yes I get that. But exactly WHO is he? I honestly have no idea who this guy is.
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>>126225684
REALLY NO TORAH

>I CAME NOT TO ABOLISH THE LAW

>Heretical sect founded in A.D. 144 at Rome by Marcion and continuing in the West for 300 years, but in the East some centuries longer, especially outside the Byzantine Empire. They rejected the writings of the Old Testament and taught that Christ was not the Son of the God of the Jews, but the Son of the good God, who was different from the God of the Ancient Covenant.
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>>126215918
>DEUS VULT XDDDD

Fuck off.
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>>126225802
Find one that's sinned more than you
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>>126225792
>>126223961
>>126223292
>>126223136

fuck off
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Reminder to pray the rosary
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>>126225928
See this picture is EXACTLY how I feel, couldn't of posted it better myself
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>>126226288
REMOVE SARACENS FROM THE PREMISES.
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>>126226104
If you like Cathedrals and the though that went behind them watch this video. The anonymous architects etched the Bible into the stone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqaPpos9T9M&t=1s
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>>126223961
>accuses Roman Catholics of idolatry
>worships thoth
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>>126225792
>jesus was an incarnation of Thoth
>3 wise men came to visit baby jesus
>3 chosen servants of The Dweller

I understand what you're implying and I agree the message is the same to an extant, but I think to truly appreciate what christianity MAY really be, you have to have an underlying understanding of what existed long before and how the soul works, something the typical mindless religious zealot fails at.

Unfortunately modern religion has become a perversion of what the historian intended and must be eliminated, to be replaced by something new. I sense the coming of Thoth, soon.

Sadly I fear the masses will not understand and incorrectly label him their risen jesus, which while not totally wrong, is still very very far from the truth.
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>>126222736

RIGHT I FORGOT

Also Nicodemus and Joseph of Arimithea, both Disciples of Jesus Christ. How embarrasing
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>>126224183
Don't pray to idols
Don't make any false image of me (God) and pray to it. Pray to me directly.
Let no image or trinket come between you and God.
Let no one come between you and God.

How do you reconcile these things with your Church? They put the Pope before the masses and God. Deny it all you want. This is how they have set themselves up. You pray to trinkets and images. The Catholic Churches inner workers are evidently corrupt, filled with child sex and bribery.

Christianity exists almost entirely on an individual level. Don't be coerced by the Catholics changing The Bible as it suits them. Realize it and leave the corrupt filth of the Catholic Church behind.
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>>126225802
the fact that you feel you committed great sins and you are ashamed of them is a good sign. When I look at your sins, I don't see them as being something "irreparable" or incredibly sinful, there's much worse out there, but your contrition is something good. Don't be afraid because God's mercy is infinite, and your repentance will be accepted if sincere. Every sinner has a past, and I doubt your priest is going to think badly of you for changing your ways. He can only think well about your conversion. But even if he secretly did think you're a weirdo, who cares? You are confessing your sins so you are forgiven by Christ, the priest is only an intemediary that acts as a spiritual guide. If he judged you for sins he's supposed to give absolution for, then he'll commit sin himself and will have to answer for it personally to God.
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>>126226767

Faggot you don't even have the slightest clue who you're praying to.

Not even kidding, you're as blue pilled on the esoteric as it gets.
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>>126225367
>I am not a protestant, so no I haven't.

you're a catholic, so yes, you have.

>you don't understand of God. The Word is not ink, it is spirit. Reading is not enough, just like reading the ingredients to a dish without knowing how to use them won't let you get the recipe right.

starman metaphor.

>linking irenaus
>ideas are traditions of men.
Matthew 16:6-12
12 Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

>truth in the scriptures is to be found in the church alone
this sounds like a lie. its getting pretty talmudy in here rabbi.
your hypocrisy is amazing
>I can, that's the point. You clearly can't, and only accept for true what enables your ignorance and stupidity regardless of whether it's true or not.

its quite easy to see that witchcraft and catholicism are hand in hand the same thing, and derive from the same source. take the Gematria Pill. Catholicism is a Luciferian counterfeit of Christianity, guilty of Idol worship, and witchcraft.

the greek word for antichrist doesn't mean "against christ" it means substitute, anti universally meant substitute in greek. meaning the antichrist is something who tries to substitute themselves for Jesus Christ

>Either way your theological ideas are traditions of men.
>what is the textus receptus, and who is Erasmus of Rotterdam

>The part about 300ad is just not historical and completely made-up
its actually completely true, there were multiple churches and denominations until the council if Nicea in 325. and when Theodosius made roman Catholicism the state religion in 380, they waged war on all other forms of Christianity deeming them heresy.

>Just screaming "bible bible bible" won't make your arguments less heretic.
screaming church father, church father, muh apostolic line isn't going to make your arguments any less of a fallacious lie. revelations 2:2.
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>>126224152
>>126225146
No Go to church. Convert to Roman Catholicism they will take care of you.

Also Read Luke and then Acts
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>>126227125
>pic

10/10 would smash and defile
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>>126227334
>Dissing Irenaeus

HERETIC

FUCKING HERETIC


HERETICAL SHITPOST


REEEEEEE
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>>126225928
So I guess you never wear clothes with more than one fabric right? It says not to in the OT.

Christians don't follow the OT
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>>126227096
Why are you so loudly preaching ignorance?
You 'know' people pray to trinkets and images, even though nobody has ever taught this? This has come from your imagination.
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>>126225948
>You can't ignore every part of the Bible you don't like
says the one that just did that
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>>126227096
>Don't pray to idols
I don't, Catholics in general don't
>Don't make any false image of me (God) and pray to it. Pray to me directly.
Nothing heretic about the communion of saints. I pray to God directly but I also pray with the saints. A practice that dates back to early christianity and that you would understand if you actually had legit theology.
>Let no image or trinket come between you and God.
mecca is that way anon
>Let no one come between you and God.
Nobody does. Priest, saints....they are not between me and God. They are WITH me and God.
>How do you reconcile these things with your Church?
Don't ask me this. Read Catholic theology and books and you'll understand it. Stop getting informed on redneck websites full of disinfo.
>This is how they have set themselves up. You pray to trinkets and images. The Catholic Churches inner workers are evidently corrupt, filled with child sex and bribery.
nice memes anon, but untrue.
>Christianity exists almost entirely on an individual level
wrong
>Don't be coerced by the Catholics changing The Bible as it suits them.
That's protestants. Catholics never changed their interpretation of the Bible, whereas for protestants it's not even the same person to person, let alone year to year lmao
>Realize it and leave the corrupt filth of the Catholic Church behind.
I hope God will guide to the truth like he did with me (and he continues to do), truly
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>>126227096
Meanwhile.....
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>The Eucharist is only a symbol

"Consider how contrary to the mind of God are the heterodox in regard to the grace of God which has come to us. They have no regard for charity, none for the widow, the orphan, the oppressed, none for the man in prison, the hungry or the thirsty. They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they do not admit that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, the flesh which suffered for our sins and which the Father, in His graciousness, raised from the dead."

"Letter to the Smyrnaeans", paragraph 6. circa 80-110 A.D.

"Come together in common, one and all without exception in charity, in one faith and in one Jesus Christ, who is of the race of David according to the flesh, the son of man, and the Son of God, so that with undivided mind you may obey the bishop and the priests, and break one Bread which is the medicine of immortality and the antidote against death, enabling us to live forever in Jesus Christ."

-"Letter to the Ephesians", paragraph 20, c. 80-110 A.D.

Proddies explain
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>>126227334
KEKEKEKEK
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>sola fide
Meanwhile in 2nd century

Explain proddies
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>>126227334
The Bible never claims to be sufficient. Iraneus was born in 30AD and served in the same Church Peter started.
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>>126227334
schlomo pls, nobody is falling for your tricks here.
Also anti means substitute only as a secondary meaning. The primary meaning is "against" and is the way in which it was used. Substitute is implied as secondary meaning because being AGAINST Christ, he will pretend he is Christ.
You are like the talmudist claiming that in the OT it's not "virgin" but "young woman" instead. Lmao. Mr. Goldberg you are not fooling anyone here.
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>>126226801
I'm going to point it out to be really simple. Christianity is a religion in understanding that God loves you enough to sacrifice his son in your place for sins against him. have you taken the gnostic pill yet? I highly recommend reading the gnostic gospels with the king james. and particularly the gospel of Judas, Thomas, and Mary Magdalen. I fancy myself an unorthodox christian, and can use the bible itself to prove Jesus was married to mary magdalen, and can again use the bible to defend reincarnation. orthodox thinking is wrong, but you can very easily prove the bible has a super natural origin, take Isiah 19:19 it talks about "an altar to god on the border of egypt", the pyramid has a height of 5449 inches, if you take the numerical value of the hebrew letters of verses 19-20, and add them up you get 5449, now I would call this a deliberate design, done by no one other than the one the pyramids were dedicated to.
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>>126228035
Hahahahahhaa
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>>126225802
The wrong ways of Catholicism will tell you that you must confess this to your priest. Yes your priest will most likely think you are some weirdo.

As a Christian, just confess these things to God, and then let them go. Do not trouble your priest with it, but go to the Church and pray with them if it would please.

Tell your sins to God. He is the only one that understands, He is the only one that forgives.
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>>126228210
Let your baptism be ever your shield, your faith a helmet, your charity a spear, your patience a panoply. Let your works be deposits, so that you may receive the sum that is due you” (Letter to St. Polycarp, 6).

Why did the early Christians say this?
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>>126216597
Deus Vult!

(Off to play ME2TW Stainless Steel now)
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>>126225802
>I was an atheist for ~7 years and was very into atheist and antireligious activism. I did stuff I'm not proud of.
>For the last 5 years I've practiced asatru and been involved in esoteric cults and heathen kindreds.
Anon, may I ask if you've ever read the book of Acts?
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>Sola Fide
Meanwhile in 2nd century

Therefore, let us not be ungrateful for His kindness. For if He were to reward us according to our works, we would cease to be (Epistle to the Magnesians, Ch. 5).

Why?
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>Not liking Theocratic Empires
>Burn the witch
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>>126227530

>using atheist arguments

see? This is why nobody likes protestants. When people point out your theology is wrong you start trying to undermine the religion or pretend that you are literally retarded in the hope people will forget you got BTFO a minute earlier.
You don't need to follow the fabric rule because it is a ceremonial one, but the principles and moral laws upon which the ceremonial laws were based remain.
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>>126228382
yes why?

I was raised fundamentalist, more or less have the KJV memorized
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>>126227644
I didn't ignore anything; I offered reasons why your interpretation is wrong. Saving faith is a relationship with God which requires works to bear fruit, but the works don't buy salvation.
It's a bit like: feeding your child doesn't make you love it, but if you love it you will feed it
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>>126228088

There is no god. All will be one in the light. As above in the lower spheres, so above in the greater spheres, each within his own domain will coalesce.
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>Those who are found not living as he taught should know that they are not really Christians, even if his teachings are on their lips, for he said that not those who merely profess but those who also do the works will be saved (cf. Matt. 13:42, 43; 7:15,16,19)” (The First Apology of Justin, ch.16).

Sola fide btfo
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>But since we are persuaded that we must give an account of all our life here to God who made us and the world, we adopt a temperate, generous, despised way of life. For we think that, even if we lose our lives, we shall suffer here no evil to be compared with the reward we shall receive from the great Judge for a gentle, generous, and modest life (A Plea Regarding Christians by Athenagoras, ch.12).

Where is sola fide?
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>>126227749
>catholics think this isn't idol worship.

>>126228035
>the bible claims to be the word of god
>the word of god isn't sufficient
>this is what catholics actually believe.

>>126227930
>traditions of men
facepalm.jpg

>>126228037
>clings to traditions of men while saying I'm following the traditions of men
hypocrisy, its getting talmudy in here rabbi.
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>>126228498
is the eternal fire not god? does the eternal fire Thoth serves not have a will of its own?
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>>126227930
I'd also like to point out protestants wouldn't dare dream of including the gospel of mary magdalen, thomas, or judas as part of their studies.
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>>126228722
I can feel your nervous self trying to justify to himself why he got BTFO once again. It's ok anon, we love you and we hope you will have the moral strength and the courage to give up your misconceptions and your false understandings. We will welcome you with open arms, and our arms will always be open until you finally come around. God bless.
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>>126228529
>>126228646
nice to see you anon, doing god's work
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>>126228960
the first sign of demonic possession is the hate for the Virgin Mary
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>>126215918
BOW DOWN TO OUR VATICAN AMBASSADOR FAGGOTS
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>>126228722
>>126228960

>muh traditiosn

Ever know the issue Jesus had?

It says in Pauls letters to hold onto their TRADITIONS

It's because the pharisitcal traditions went against the spirit of the Torah and against God's final authority on morality, hence "traditions of Men" a refrence to their carnal nature.
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>People promoting The Catholic Church by showing early examples of goodness.

I don't think you guys understand how "corruption" works.
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Benedict XVI was great. He brought the Anglicans back into the fold and helped foster the traditional latin mass.
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>>126229260
>early examples
The Church is full of saints, they are just not attention whores
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>>126228960
Protestants also do hate the early christians
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>>126228722
Early Fathers were members of the Apostolic and Holy Church set up by actual disciples of Jesus. They know more about what the Disciples were teaching than you do.
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>>126229260
>shows early Christians contradicting protestantism
>shows proddies are false

Deal with it
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>>126228210
>He is the only one that forgives.
That's wrong.
Christ gave Peter and/or all the apostles (doesn't matter how you interpret it in this very case) the ability to forgive and retian sins
John 20:23 "23 Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained."
So the very claim that God alone can forgive sins contradicts the very word of God.
Now, you might say that only applies to the apostles, but then you haven't read acts chapter 6:1-7. The apostles, realizing the growth of the church prevented them from helping everyone directly, took "seven reputable men" chosen by and from "the community of disciples" and "prayed and laid hands on them," granting them the authority to act in the apostles stead. This is the very basis of apostolic succession, the successors of these men, modern day priests, maintain the gifts given by Christ to the apostles, including forgiveness of sins.

Now, you might accuse the church of no longer being in line with succession, but then I would ask you to point to the moment when that occurred.
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“In the city of Rome the episcopal chair was given first to Peter, the chair in which Peter sat, the same who was head--that is why he is also called Cephas [‘Rock’]--of all the apostles, the one chair in which unity is maintained by all. Neither do the apostles proceed individually on their own, and anyone who would [presume to] set up another chair in opposition to that single chair would, by that very fact, be a schismatic and a sinner. . . . Recall, then, the origins of your chair, those of you who wish to claim for yourselves the title of holy Church.”
-St. Optatus, “The Schism of the Donatists,” c. 367 A.D.

“They (the Novatian heretics) have not the succession of Peter, who hold not the chair of Peter, which they rend by wicked schism; and this, too, they do, wickedly denying that sins can be forgiven (by the sacrament of confession) even in the Church, whereas it was said to Peter: 'I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of Heaven, and whatsoever thou shalt bind on Earth, shall be bound in Heaven, and whatsoever thou shall loose on Earth shall be loosed in Heaven.'"
-St. Ambrose of Milan, “On Penance,” 388 A.D.
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>>126227104
Thats fucking badass, whats it from.

I now want to show this to the gayvikings who made battlefield 1, in the hopes of getting a cleric class added.
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>>126229302
Ratzinger was a staunch modernist that slowly became more traditionalist with time. Still a modernist by traditional catholic standards, more of an unaware and idealistic modernist which isn't too bad all things considered. His theology tries to be a sort of compromise between modernists and traditionalists, but I think he started realising at a certain point that when you compromise you inevitably end up fully in the field of "modernism" whether you like it or not. His attempts are reconciliation were appreciated of course and I respect him greatly
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>>126229434
My grandparents really, really like this guy
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>>126230110
Padre Pepe
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>>126215918
Repeal Humana Vitae
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>>126228470
So then, do you not remember the story of Saul, now called Paul? He who persecuted the Church, but through the grace of God became one of it's greatest Advocates? Or simon the magician, who once sought to buy the powers of the apostles?
No priest will think you some "weirdo" for what you did, rather they will rejoice in your seeking forgiveness, and will be happy to help you overcome these struggles, not admonish or deride you for them.
It's best to think of a priest as a model parent, in the sense that they aren't out to mock you or hurt you, but to help you, to reach through your sins and help you work towards a better, more holy version of you, so that you may better serve the Lord.
Be honest with them anon, it will only help you in the long run.
I shall pray God may give you the courage to do so, and that He may bless you, guide you and keep you now and forever.
Anything else I can help you with?
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>>126229615
It's from a movie, but it's something that probably happened in real life. Mel Gibson made a movie about a guy that went to war (ww2 I think) as a doctor and refused to kill anyone in battle. He survived btw. It takes way more balls to go into battle without weapons I think.

>>126230110
He was based. There is a story where the devil goes to him in the confessional (with the aspect of a man) and starts telling him all sort of reasons why his sins are not so bad. Padre Pio gets suspicious and tells him "say viva Maria and viva Jesus" and he immediately disappears leaving a horrible steanch behind him. He could also see people's sins and also see angels with his own eyes. He told a woman who had aborted, that in God's plans that aborted baby should have become Pope, had he not been aborted.
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>>126230681
It's a based Pole encouraging the soldiers against the Bolsheviks.
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>>126229434
The thing is, you can't attack me because I don't belong to any "sect" of Christianity. I believe in God and I believe in Jesus' sacrifice for me, and I read the Bible. You can attack protestants or evangelicals, it doesn't matter to me, but what I can see is the Catholic Church grossly going against what God has given us through the Bible. There are practices of the Catholic Church which God deemed inappropriate, and yet Catholics do it, seemingly ignorant of the Bible.

And then I watch documentaries of the Vatican's inner workings, and how Catholic priests have left the Vatican because their superiors were engaged in child sexual abuse and covering it up for others involved.

You guys talk about signs of demonic possession? How about 60 year old men fucking 5 year old boys? Some of the victims grow up to be Catholic priests themselves, doing it to other boys.

The Catholics bastardize the word of God, changing it to suit them. I am not surprised there is high level illegal filth going on behind its doors either.
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>>126230681
>Mel Gibson made a movie about a guy that went to war (ww2 I think) as a doctor and refused to kill anyone in battle.
That's Hacksaw Ridge. Amazing movie easily one of the best if not the best of that year, based Mel hit it out of the park with that one.
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How should we approach the phenomenon of "power" from the christian pov? Do you think there were some holes in this legitimistic tradition of Europe?
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>>126230856
And yet nowhere do we find Early Christians believing your shit

But since we are persuaded that we must give an account of all our life here to God who made us and the world, we adopt a temperate, generous, despised way of life. For we think that, even if we lose our lives, we shall suffer here no evil to be compared with the reward we shall receive from the great Judge for a gentle, generous, and modest life (A Plea Regarding Christians by Athenagoras, ch.12).
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>>126231026
The Holy Spirit makes and breaks all power for reasons often beyond our understanding.
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>>126229166
I don't hate the virgin mary. I'm merely pointing out that the catholic version of mary is not the actual one, but a form of lucifer worship.

>>126229030
I do not need a church to interpret the word of god, the holy spirit does that for me.

>linking John Paul II, who kissed the quran, which is a book of pedophilia, and goat fucking
>fatima, who is the daughter of mohammad, and the Idol who will ink the catholic church to islam fulfilling revelation 17:3 3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

really activates my almonds.

>>126229493
the roman catholic church has nothing to do with the apostolic succession, Revelations 2:2. you know who else claims an "apostolic succession"? Islam with their hadiths, claim to be an unbroken chain of narrators.

>know more about what the disciples were taching than you do

they know only what the holy spirit revealed to them, and it honestly isn't much

>>126229191
>It's because the pharisitcal traditions went against the spirit of the Torah and against God's final authority on morality, hence "traditions of Men" a refrence to their carnal nature.

which is exactly what the catholic church does.

>>126229596 >>126228210

Mark 2:10
But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins,

its actually the son of man who has authority to forgive sins? who am I, and who are you? we are sons of Adam, or sons of man. and authority to forgive sins was given by me, and to you by jesus Christ himself.
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>>126231217
Can you give me evidenxe for your sect in the time of Irenaeus?
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>>126231217
Meanwhile...:
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>>126231217
The Bible was written and compiled by Church loving Catholics, retard. If you want to be a protestant then fuck off and write your own book
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>>126231217
The Catholic life keeps the the Fatherhood alive through the PAPACY, PAPA.

You're a gnostic shill and Gnostics are literal atheists, you don't even have a moral foundation to begin with.
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>>126230856
>The thing is, you can't attack me because I don't belong to any "sect" of Christianity. I believe in God and I believe in Jesus' sacrifice for me, and I read the Bible
It's a slippery slope anon. Now you think you can believe in Christ and that's enough, tomorrow you'll think you can disregard the trinity, after tomorrow you think it's ok to be muslim etc. etc.
Christ loves the truth, because he is the truth. If you separate yourself from it, if you cut yourself off from the body of Christ, can you really say it's all good? I don't think so. Only thing I ask is: search with your heart and not with your preconception. Ask God for guidance without prejudice.
>what I can see is the Catholic Church grossly going against what God has given us through the Bible.
you only see what they have told you to see. Really, read Catholic writings. Read the lives and the writings of the saints. You will find a genuine faith that you probably don't expect to find. Start from there. James White's sister started her conversion to Catholicism after reading St.Patrick's confessions.
>And then I watch documentaries of the Vatican's inner workings
Those documentaries are purposedly made to smear the Church. The Church has been infiltrated, we know that. Would you say that all politicians are pedos because Podesta is? An old priest admitted he was a sodomite and inifltrated the Church to try and change its doctrine not long ago (he's now 90 or something), he also admitted he didn't "come out" because if he did he would be kicked out and nobody would listen to him anymore. Don't confuse the people attacking the Church for the Church itself.
>The Catholics bastardize the word of God
We really don't.
> I am not surprised there is high level illegal filth going on behind its doors either.
There is filth everyhere, but the Catholic faith is what you need to follow to stay out of it. If you stop following it, you fall into it.
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>>126231654
Sorry I mean Satanist
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>>126231142
This is a modern day documentary, my friend.
The guy being interviewed was a Catholic priest who left the Vatican. He grew up as an orphan himself being molested by Catholic priests, and finally realized this whole system is fucked and left. One of the guys who molested him was an archbishop and tried to buy him off, giving him a bigger position within the Vatican Church if he just stayed quiet, but he obviously didn't take it.

Look at what this church is today. Be an independent Christian and if you want a church, look for a real church.
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>>126231489
http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1495234533662.png

>truth in scriptures is only revealed in the church
its actually only revealed by the holy spirit, Irenaeus is completely wrong. and his books have no scriptual backings, his thoughts are the things of men, and not of God.

>>126231626
>The Bible was written and compiled by Church loving Catholics, retard
ok, riddle me this fiddo, who wrote the gospel of Mark, Luke, Matthew, and John?

did catholics write the old testament? catholics have wrote 0% of the bible, and the bible was compiled at the council of Nicea.

>>126231654
>matthew 23:9
call no man father, for you only have one father who is in heaven.

>gnostics are literal atheists
all gnostics confess that christ died on the cross for our sins, to redeem mankind. and I do have a moral foundation based on the new testament, and based on Jesus Christ.
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>>126232012
>conspiracy theory 101
Meanwhile back in reality, ZERO evidence for your worldview

Just sola ego
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>>126231026
>How should we approach the phenomenon of "power" from the christian pov?
As in poltical power?
I would say that, in theory at least, poltical power from a Catholic PoV would first and formost recognize that all things are a gift from God. And ruler must always remember that they are subservient to the Lord and as such must act accordingly. Furthermore, a leader is a man who has been given power to serve the people, much like the apostles and the Church. You are not above the people, but servants of them.
As such, they must act within a Catholic moral framework, following things such as just war theory, most of Catholic social teaching and so on. Now, there are 2 """caveats""" to this: free will, as a gift from God, means that basic human rights, such as freedom of speech, religion, press, assembly and so on must be preserved. What God has given, one can not take away. So you can't go burning heretics, unless that's the only option in something like war, as outlined in just war doctrine. The second caveat is a caveat to that caveat, if any one of those things were to pose an existential threat to the Word of Christ, then you can ignore them, but only if ignoring them is the only way. So you can go full deus vult on isis (and frankly we should), but if someone is beating you because they preach better, then learn to preach even better than them.

So essentially, be humble, remember your place as servant of God and the People, and act as a Good Christian should.
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>>126232118
The Peshitta had the so called Deuterocanon in it
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>>126231797
ok, what is the definition of satanism?
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>>126231217
Read 1 Peter 5:13 (Babylon was codeword for Rome). All the early Christians knew and believed that Peter had set up his Church in Rome

>But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins,
Which doesn't seem to imply Jesus has not given that power to Peter.
STOP IGNORING PARTS OF THE BIBLE YOU DON'T LIKE
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>>126232187
and so does the ethiopian bible, they even celebrate the baptism of Jesus Christ, and I believe them to have the ark of the covenant. whats your point?
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>>126232118
outside the Church you don't have the Holy Spirit, because if the Spirit if guiding you away from the Church it is not Holy, but it is demonic deception. You sound like a lost soul unfortunately
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>>126232199
If you had to ask...

HERETIC
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>>126232118
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>>126232418
They confraDICT you
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>>126232283
the point being no one needs to go to a priest to have their sins forgiven, but can go to any christian who confesses on jesus christ.

it actually implies that peter is not the only one with that power, but every single person who is the son of adam.

stop misunderstanding the bible.
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>>126216615
Not as much as you think, but I did know a few girls that had that mentality when I was in high school.
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>>126215918
Muslims don't assimilate. They only conquer.
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>>126232571
Disgusting and heretical. I don't know how anyone can take Luther seriously.
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>>126232665
Hey, now that's not fair to Luther or Calvin. Bad as they may be, there nowhere near as bad as prosperity gospel shitters.
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>>126232118
That´s where "compiled" kicks in, smartass
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>>126231742
Your slippery slope makes no sense.

I reject the Catholic Church because they are a corrupted church not following God's laws.

I am rejecting the Catholic Church in FAVOR of the Bible. I am giving authority to The Bible and to the word of Jesus Christ. Something Catholicism doesn't seem to mind changing and contradicting.

I will not pray to an image of Mary. Sorry, but that is literally in the Bible. Don't make false images or trinkets and pray to them, even of God. That does not mean I hate Mary, it means I uphold the words of The Bible.
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>>126231217
>I don't hate the virgin mary. I'm merely pointing out that the catholic version of mary is not the actual one, but a form of lucifer worship.

this. he's dead on. The fucking pope literally has "Vicar (substitute) of Christ" written on his Pagan Pope hat that's symbolically a nod to the Babylonian Fish god "Dagon". No man comes to the Father except through Christ and no pope will save you. It's the greatest lie ever concocted. Catholicism is the Whore of Babylon causing the most elect to be deceived.

Catholics are fantastic people, they're just deceived. the upper echelons of the Holy See are very much an arm of Luciferianism.
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>>126232944
The Catholic Church predates the Bible. You are sorely mistaken.
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>>126232944
You're allowed to ask Mary to pray to you. The prayers of the faithful and pure are worth more than the prayer of sinners; so you ask Mary for intercession.
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>>126232944
Explain this
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>>126232824
What do you mean?
Muslims as believers do not assimilate, that is true. But Muslims are certainly not beyond conversion, those lands were once Christian and shall be again, so if your implying that they're beyond saving I'd have to disagree with you. There just brainwashed.
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>>126221223
Listen to the first hour of this video, it touches upon the fact "catholics are not real christians" it convinced me, its almost like a audiobook, it was so intresting i did not stop until he finished his story. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzIDI34dI-o And i recommend this to anyone thinking they know something about catholics. They literally have missions about trying to destroy catholic church because its one true church and tool they use is lies about sex shit and so on. But whole story is fantastic. And im sure some of you might find yourself as protestants in his story.
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>>126216880
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If you want to fight against evil, start by focusing on spiritual wickedness in high places.

There are evil Satanic sorcerers in the military who are mind control experts. This isn't the plot of a bad movie, it is real life. PSYOP and NSA are directly influenced by people who understand the occult.

You can't make this stuff up:

http://www.usa-anti-communist.com/ard/Michael_Aquino_NSA_Devil_Worshiper.php

http://batr.org/view/050111.html

http://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/MindWar-Paper-by-NSA-Lt-Col-Michael-Aquino/
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>>126232118
Gnostics deny a physcial world outright or they deny that it is good. So you deny the RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST.

>no man father

Father is a reference to authority God gave that auhority to them, there are men called Elders, and Bishops and deacons in the New testament by the Apostles. And God recognizes authority of Governments, see romans 13 for that.

>Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

There's the ownre ofthe company (God) and the chief executive (pope) and ipper manamgement (cardinals) and lower (priests) and people (consumers)

He it was who, coming to Rome in the time of Anicetus caused many to turn away from the aforesaid heretics to the Church of God, proclaiming that he had received this one and sole truth from the apostles—that, namely, which is handed down by the Church. There are also those who heard from him that John, the disciple of the Lord, going to bathe at Ephesus, and perceiving Cerinthus within, rushed out of the bath-house without bathing, exclaiming, "Let us fly, lest even the bath-house fall down, because Cerinthus, the enemy of the truth, is within." And Polycarp himself replied to Marcion, who met him on one occasion, and said, "Do you know me?" "I do know you, the first-born of Satan."

This is recored by Irenaeus who was taught by Polycarp who was taught by Apostle John. And that is a record of John and Polycarp denoucning these gnostics
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>>126233040
That is not what vicar means. The latin vicarius does mean that, but latin is hardly English. Vicar means representative in the Catholic Church, so "Vicar of Christ" means "representative of Christ"
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>>126232571
martin luther attacked home and personal study of the bible, just like the catholic churrch did. and he did not start the reformation. and stop implying that I agree with him when I don't particularly care for him. and martin luther did not start the reformation Erasmus of Rotterdam, John Calvin, Peter Waldo, John Wycliffe and Jan Hus did.

>>126232508
whats your definition of satanism?

>>126232482
the holy spirit guides me to christ, and christ alone. I pray to Christ, I study the bible. the holy spirit exists in those who confess in christ, that he died on the cross for my sins, and that he was the son of god come into the flesh.

a demon wouldn't lead me to the bible, nor would he lead me to christ, nor would he adore what he did for me on the cross. when god calls his people to come out of the whore of babylon, you will not be called.

>>126232765
>verse number and chapter
he actually extended it to everyone LONG before gave peter authority.

>>126232599
this is your last (you) the early church fathers contradict the bible.
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>>126232915
Calvin was a literal serial killer
Martin Luther literally betrayed Europe to the Ottoman empire. Literally
Both denied free will
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>>126233482
>whats your definition of satanism?

If you had to ask...

SATANIST
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>>126232120
There are so many cases that I will just use wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases

There are actual convictions as well.

>The Catholic Church disobeys The Bible.
>Shocked and in denial that there is wide spread degeneracy going on behind the Vatican's walls.

Wake up.
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>>126221926

>non-denominational

You people are even more cancerous than Protestants and their lesbian bishops.
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>>126233546
Oh don't get me wrong, I have no love for Calvin or Luther. The men were evil. But in terms of theology, I find prosperity gospel far more offensive than either of Calvin or Luther's work.
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>>126233404
Bullshit.
>anyone acting "in the person of" or agent for a superior (compare "vicarious" in the sense of "at second hand").

There is zero precedent in the bible for such a figure. Christ never named or made mention such a person and nothing in the new testament makes foundation for it. It's a creation of man to engage in plain idolatry. Every man has sinned and fallen short of the glory of God and our Righteousness's are as filthy rags. i.e. your pope guy is a piece of shit no better than a common whore. (which incidentally is also what he is....the whore of babylon.)
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>>126233040
>vicar means substitute
That's funny, I thought it meant 'one who is authorised to act on another's behalf'
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>>126233748
>I was only pretending to be retarded
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>>126233878

Take either definition. Both are blasphemous. MFW
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>>126232944
>I reject the Catholic Church because they are a corrupted church not following God's laws.
this opinion of yours is wrong though. When you create a non denominational Church with you as the head, you are not improving things. You, as a person, are corrupt, whether you like it not. There's no "non-corrupt" part of the world. The only thing you can do is fight the corruption you recognize, but the corruption in ourselves, I assure you (and christianity backs me up on this) is a lot harder to fight than the corruption in others (that you are able to fight by being part of the Church).
>I am rejecting the Catholic Church in FAVOR of the Bible
The Church produced and approved the Bible. Protestants simply changed the OT canon to fit what Jews wanted (not even kidding). Otherwise you might as well accept the gospel of judas, of thomas, of mary etc.etc. If you don't you are not being non-denominational at all. But then again if you do then you fall deeper and steeper into the slippery slope etc. etc.
>I will not pray to an image of Mary.
You should just try praying the Rosary. Honestly, it's something that when prayed with a loving heart is so powerful, and helps you so much to avoid sin, nobody who has done it ever goes back. It is a great gift, and the devil tries really hard to keep people away from it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwVdYXyxln0
>Don't make false images or trinkets and pray to them, even of God
Mohammed pls, pic related
>That does not mean I hate Mary, it means I uphold the words of The Bible.
If you don't love Mary you don't uphold the word of God, because God loves Mary
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>>126233694
Which also occurs in protestantism

Wake up

Sola ego is false

But since we are persuaded that we must give an account of all our life here to God who made us and the world, we adopt a temperate, generous, despised way of life. For we think that, even if we lose our lives, we shall suffer here no evil to be compared with the reward we shall receive from the great Judge for a gentle, generous, and modest life (A Plea Regarding Christians by Athenagoras, ch.12).
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>>126233373
>Gnostics deny a physcial world outright or they deny that it is good. So you deny the RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST.

>confessing that Jesus Christ rose from the dead means I deny the resurrection
what part of what you're claiming doesn't make you an idiot

>Gnostics deny a physcial world outright or they deny that it is good
you know, having read the gnostic gospels, I can already go ahead and call this a lie.

the catholic church does not promote spiritual gifts. and Irenaeus and the catholic church stand guilty of destroying the mysticism of christianity, they have no people speaking in tongues, no people handling serpents, and no people drinking deadly things according to mark 16:17-18. and most catholic exorcisms fail, so they aren't driving out demons either. I on the other hand, will be handling serpents, speaking on tongues, casting out demons in his name, and healing the sick. I'll also be walking on water, turning water into wine, and breathing life into clay birds by the grace of god and the holy spirit.

>>126233627
ok, so far I confess my faith in jesus christ, that he died on the cross for my sins, that he resurrected from the dead, that I pray to him in my heart. what exactly makes me a satanist?
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>>126233861
>you're not allowed to be a representative of Christ
So why does Jesus tell people to go and make disciples of all nations?
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Which mass is more based? FSSP, Anglican Ordinariate, or Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church?

The ordinary mass is pretty bad in my opinion. Facing the people, communion in the hand, guitars and shit.
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>>126233694
>Church of 1 billion people
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>>126232916
and the 5 gospels mark luke john thomas and matthew were long established as cannon before the council of nicea. so once again, fallacious argument.
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>>126233148
Wtf does this have to do with making an image of Mary and praying to it.

Do you realize God said not to do this?

Catholicism is going its own way, away from God.
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>>126233482
Where?
The other verse was Jesus talking about Himself, as a Son of Man who had just forgiven sins.
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>>126234457

Nice Straw man, but i'll indulge.

there's a difference between converting people to Christianity and making them come to you and beg forgiveness for sins. Of which you have absolutely no right to offer them btw.
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>>126234368
No Gnosticism is literally denying physical world.

Gnostics always deny Jesus ressurecting from the dead, this comes from Plato. ever read Plato or the gnostics?

HERETIC

YOU DENY THE RESSURECTION OF JESUS CHRIST
GNOSTICS = NO PHYSICAL BODY = PHYSICAL WORLD NOT REAL OR BAD
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>>126234602
its a simple matter of who we are. Jesus refered himself as the son of man because he was God who came into the flesh, to become a man, a son of Adam. He wasn't just talking about himself, He was talking about you. you are a son of man, I am a son of man, we are sons of Adam.
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>>126234368
yOU ARE A LITERAL SATANIST GOY

ALL GNOSTICS ARE

FIRST BORN OF SATAN


He it was who, coming to Rome in the time of Anicetus caused many to turn away from the aforesaid heretics to the Church of God, proclaiming that he had received this one and sole truth from the apostles—that, namely, which is handed down by the Church. There are also those who heard from him that John, the disciple of the Lord, going to bathe at Ephesus, and perceiving Cerinthus within, rushed out of the bath-house without bathing, exclaiming, "Let us fly, lest even the bath-house fall down, because Cerinthus, the enemy of the truth, is within." And Polycarp himself replied to Marcion, who met him on one occasion, and said, "Do you know me?" "I do know you, the first-born of Satan."

This is recored by Irenaeus who was taught by Polycarp who was taught by Apostle John. And that is a record of John and Polycarp denoucning these gnostics
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>>126233861
>Christ never named or made mention such a person and nothing in the new testament makes foundation for it.
Not true. In acts chapter 10, the church is confronted with an issue Christ didn't touch on, the conversion of gentiles. Now, the Apostles had to address this issue, and God sends peter a vision instructing him to allow gentiles into the Church. In this manner, Christ speaks through Peter, just as a representative speaks for someone else. Thus, the Pope, as the successor of Peter, maintains the ability to represent God as Peter did. He is not replacing Christ and he is certainly not better than Christ or more venerated, that's all stuff you made up.
He can speak on behalf of Christ, as Peter did, but that is extremely rare, as it should be.
But either way, it most certainly is biblical.
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>>126234740
>No Gnosticism is literally denying physical world.

Gnostics always deny Jesus ressurecting from the dead, this comes from Plato. ever read Plato or the gnostics?

and like i said, having read their gospels, this is a lie.

>I confess that Jesus died on the cross for my sins, and resurrected himself after 3 days according to the scriptures
>YOU DENY THE RESSURECTION OF JESUS CHRIST

you literally have frontal lobe brain damage.
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>>126234738
You're saying acting as a Vicar of Christ is not allowed.

>>126234836
He said THE SON of man not THE SONS of MAN
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>>126234979
LIAR

GNOSTICISM = PHYSICAL WORLD BAD
HENCE
GNOSTICISM = NO RESSURECTION

FIRST BORN OF SATAN


He it was who, coming to Rome in the time of Anicetus caused many to turn away from the aforesaid heretics to the Church of God, proclaiming that he had received this one and sole truth from the apostles—that, namely, which is handed down by the Church. There are also those who heard from him that John, the disciple of the Lord, going to bathe at Ephesus, and perceiving Cerinthus within, rushed out of the bath-house without bathing, exclaiming, "Let us fly, lest even the bath-house fall down, because Cerinthus, the enemy of the truth, is within." And Polycarp himself replied to Marcion, who met him on one occasion, and said, "Do you know me?" "I do know you, the first-born of Satan."

This is recored by Irenaeus who was taught by Polycarp who was taught by Apostle John. And that is a record of John and Polycarp denoucning these gnostics
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>>126234292
I'm not protestant though.

I'm simply a Christian who puts faith in God and Bible.

You have put your faith into a church. A church that has become corrupted. You are worshipping an idol. You will go to hell.
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>>126234847
>But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men

Peter was actually the first one to be called Satan in the bible. Irenaeus was wrong, about pretty much everything he ever wrote about.
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>>126234567
DIDNT know Mary is not the cause of salvation
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>>126235119
ok, so confessing that jesus christ died on the cross for my sins, and that he ressurected himself from the dead makes me a liar? and the first born of satan?

and like i said, the gnostic gospels clearly state jesus christ resurrected himself. you're fallaciously ignorant arguments have no water.
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>>126235168

>Irenaeus was wrong

Peter was called Satan
FOR DENYING THE RESSURECTION

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


GNOSTIC JUST IKE YOU

Peter repetned though immediately
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>>126235162
Sola ego is what you are

And you will go to hell for it
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>>126235331
YOURE GOING TO HELL
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>>126234505
So because there is a lot of people, some will be evil, correct? That is your point?

My point is that the Vatican Church is evil and corrupt. Catholics pretty much put faith into this church, and this is wrong.

This is classic false idol worship, deny it how you want.
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>>126235029
>You're saying acting as a Vicar of Christ is not allowed

Correct, you may not act as a substitute for christ. You may not act as a stand-in for Christ. You may not bill yourself as having his authority in any way when it comes to forgiveness of sins and granting of salvation. You may only lead people TO Christ. You may only show people HOW to be saved. You cannot grant them any of the above. To do so it to claim the power thereof and is blasphemous.
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>>126235347
he actually denied christ another 3 times, and no, it wasn't immediatly

so once again

>ok, so confessing that jesus christ died on the cross for my sins, and that he ressurected himself from the dead makes me a liar? and the first born of satan?

you ignored the question.

>>126235433
nah, Jesus made sure I wasn't going to hell.
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