/pol/ communism general

natsoc > communism

>>126157992
Finland yes

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>>126158059
Natsoc is failed and dead ideology

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>>126158125
There's where you're wrong kiddo.

>>126158125
yeah, and communism isn't

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>>126158213
Is that why there hasn't been any serious natsoc movements after 1945? :^)
You don't have the numbers to even compete.

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>>126158293
How dare you insult Commander Rockwell like that.

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>>126158392
Rockwell was a joke and he died as a clown.

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>>126158468
Not true.

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SCALPING TIME

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>>126158549
Ha, okay. 10 people LARPing as nazis. Very scary. I'm sure your mother things you're tough.

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>>126158059
Ahh Hitler, you really really REALLY tried to learn from the best didn't you? Shame how it all turned out, ay buddy? *giggles*

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>>126158654
all i know is that im right and you are wrong.

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>>126158213
Which one lost WWII

>>126158654
>Very scary
nigger thinks natsoc is about being scary

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>>126158760
Didn't you learn anything from last time, you're wasting your time and making me more motivated to post these generals

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>>126158760
all /combros/ report this post

>>126157992
Paska beitti, mutta neljäkaanin apinavat menevät siihen kuitenkin

>>126158823
>The good ones always win
stop watching Hollywood burger.

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>>126158059
fpbp

natsoc > any other ideology

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>>126158760
SIEG HEIL XD

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Kiss em.

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flush the nazi down the well
and send his black heart to hell
his stinky corpse may smell
and let it fill up the well

>>126159021
The best thing Stalin ever did was killing all the bolsheviks.

Commies are such hypocrites.
>Praise Stalin
>muh natsoc is ebil

>>126157992
communism is extinct, has been for like 30 years faggots.

its now just a ideology for people too loathesome to get along with other leftists.

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This kills the commie

>>126159098
This desu, when you think about it he wasn't such a bad guy. He killed tens of millions of communists after all

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op please find a real ideology or fuck off back to /r/gommunism already, you're not going to subvert anyone on /pol/ to gommunism. you should know this by now

>>126157992
>produced not in order to sell for profit.
If there is no profit, why am i going to do this?

>From each according to their ability, to each according to their need
So i am working to support people i dont give a fuck about because they cant support themselves? Fuck them. let them die.

>a classless society
So we make no differential between those who achieve (AKA people with Merit) and those who dont?

You have said nothing that makes me want to be a communitist

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>>126158125
nadzog is bailed and ded idelogy

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>>126157992
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.

https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/

_________________________________


Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>>126158293
iz dad why der haznd bean any srs nadzoc moovmentz afder 6000000 :-DDDDDDDDDDD
Joo dont hav da numbers do eben compedeXDDDD

>>126159263
>complains about /pol/
>while being on /pol/
And so the shill slips and stumbles, revealing his true nature.

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>>126159263
>Nordic NatSoc meetup

>>126159263
>/pol/ meetup
>implying HWNDU is /pol/

>>126158468
Rogwel waz a jogeXDDDD
& he dieded az a glown:DDDDDDDDDDDDD

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>>126159234
This kills and triggers the commie even more.

>>126158654
XDDD ogay, 10 beoble LARBin as ebinXDDD
very sgary im zure ur mom fingz ur taffy:---DDDDDDD

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>>126159406
>>126159358
>>126159272
Epic post

>>126158848
dindu joo lern enyfing vrom lasd diem ur wasding ur tiem maging me more motivaded to shidbosd :---DDD

>>126158125
Just like communism. Both of you belong in history books

>>126158855
Basga benin, mudde neljagabin abinavad beniwad shid guitenkinXDDD

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>>126159358
>>126159406
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>>126159561
Oh wow, your last raid didn't last and now you're completely butthurt
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>126159239
dis dezu wen joo fink aboud id he waznd sug a bad guyXDDD
he gilled dens of gorillionz of gommunisds afder all:DDDDD

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>>126159650
i think he mad now.

>>126157992
Better commie than filthy germanic natsoc.My grandfather was comunist and he killed this socalled socialists living in Czechoslovakia after WW2.He exterminated two german families including childrens.

>>126159650
oh wow:DD
ur lasd raid dindu lazd & now ur gombledely budhurdXDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>126159635

I find this highly enjoyable

Fugg gommies

>>126159263
They look cool
like real people having genuine fun and real diversity

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>>126159800
You're still replying thus motivating me, comrade.

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picture of OP with toy gun

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>>126159796
yeah, we was totally on the good side.

>>126159925
joo r sdill replieng dus modivading me ebin

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reminder

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Golden Dawn shits all over commies everywhere.

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>>126159796
Your grandfather is the reason your country is so poor. Slovaks should have just genocided most of you and slovakifie the rest

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>>126159951
>>126159992
Thanks for the bump, friendo. You're keeping this thread alive.

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>>126159722

You have to go back your train is waiting for ya.

>>126159957
he was*

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>>126160040
Im Germanic, where should i go back to exactly?

>>126160122
>responding to commie shills

>>126160037
ur grandvader iz teh reeson ur kondry iz so boor ebin:D
slbaks shuld hav juzd genisided mozd of u & slovakifi da resdX---DDDDDDDDDDD

>>126160039
Your thread is a gigantic failure(just like your ideology) compared to the /natsoc/ thread where everyone debates about national socialism. All you do is post shitty stalin pictures and shitty commie memes and never discuss communism and debate with others about it.

>>126160039
danx 4 teh bumb friendoXDDD
ur geebing dis tread aliev:DDDDDDDDDD

>>126160208
Check the ID, this isnt commiefinn.

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>>126159957
Rope around their necks would look amazing.

>>126160043
we wuz kangz

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>>126160252

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>>126160203
Im having fun bantsing them.

>>126160292
good goy

>>126160305
>>>126160272

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>>126160345
>bantsing
>w-w-watch o-out c-commies I'm t-totally tough...m-my mother thinks I-I am...
Sure thing, boss.

>>126160037
My country isnt poor i lived in few countries on West and quality of live is way better here. Slovaks were always our brothers how could they genocided us also they have smaller numbers. Only natsoc is doing genocide and we arent so bad. We are removing in small numbers animals like you.

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Good thread keep shitposting.

>>126160435
>bandzing
>w-wag o-oud g-gommies Im d-dodally dough...m-my mom vinks I-I am...
zure fing b0ss

>>126160435
>Your thread is a gigantic failure(just like your ideology) compared to the /natsoc/ thread where everyone debates about national socialism. All you do is post shitty stalin pictures and shitty commie memes and never discuss communism and debate with others about it.

Prove me wrong commie.

>>126160215
>All you do is post shitty stalin pictures and shitty commie memes and never discuss communism and debate with others about i
He is a redditor so no wonder it's all just shitty meme and pictures of his God. Literal what every person cult subreddit does, from the_donald to /r/Marxism

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>>126160435
>boss
yes, natsoc is the superior ideology, im glad you understand this Pekka.

>>126160576
If you ever find in him in real life, please take all his possesions and redistribute them to the people, see how he likes it.

>>126160576
>al u do iz bosd shiddy zdalin bigdures & shidy gommie menes &neber dizgus gommunizm &debate wif oders aboud i
Hes a redditfag so no wonder its all jusd sgitty mene & bigdures ov hiz benisXDDDDDDDDD
Lideral wut evry berson cult subplebit doez vrom da_donald to /r/margsism

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If Finland was communist it'd be a post commie third-world shithole now.
Glad you stupid marxist fucks got eternally btfo. Fuck off to Russia.

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>>126160600
>superior
That's why nobody takes you seriously and your ideology has been dead since 1945. There is no serious movements and nobody takes you seriously. You don't have the numbers and never will, little insect. You're like little chihuahua trying to fight an elephant. You should be glad that I even bother replying to you because you're just that irrelevant.

>>126160122
You will be exterminated in your own country soon. Sweden will be multiculture country. Pic was related to Czechoslovakia. You can try survive in your mixed country in future but stay out natsoc germanic filth from my country.

>>126160775
>zuberior dats y noobdy dages u srsly & ur idejewlogy haz been ded since 1337:---DDD
pic waz retarded to tjegozlovabenis. u can try surviev in ur mixed gountry in fudure bud sday out nadzoc goymanic vilv vrom my benisXDDDDDDD

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>>126160775
>being this much in denial
Natsocs are growing all over Europe, and you can't stop it.

>>126160803
>You can try survive in your mixed country in future but stay out natsoc germanic filth from my country.
Do you speak English?

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>>126160768
Mannerheim served Russia, by the way. He was a slave to superior Russians. And Finland lost both Winter war and continuation war while during cold war they kept kissing USSR ass just so USSR wouldn't steamroll Finland. If Putin decided to invade Finland now, Finns wouldn't have a chance.

>>126160975
>growing
is this why you fail all the time?

>>126160775
>zuberior
dats y noobdy dages u srsly & ur idejewlogy haz been ded since 1337:---DDD der iz no srs moovment & noobdy dages u srslyXDDD u dont hav te numberz & neber wil lil incest. ur liek lil chichan drying 2 fite an elephand. u should be glad dat i eben boder replien 2 u cuz ur jusd dat irelephant

>>126161026
>growing
>is this why you fail all the time?
yeah, we should be shrinking in size.
Are you legit retarded?

AP vitun cuck poista paska lankasi. Kommunismi ei ole tulossa takaisin eurooppaan enään vähään aikaan.

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>>126161135
>Are you legit retarded?
Duh, he wouldn't be a commie if he wasn't.

>>126161026
>>126160768
manerheim serbed rusia by teh way he waz a slabe 2 superior ebin:D & finald losd both winder war & continuation war whiel during gold war dey kept rimmin USA juzd so USA wouldnt steamroll finald iv budin decied 2 invaed finald nao finns wouldn hav a chance
>>126160975
>growing
iz dis y u fail al the tiem

>>126161138
ab vudin guck boisda basga lankazi gommunizmi e ole tuloza dagaibin eurobaan anal vagina anusXDDDDDDDD :D :---DDD

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>>126161135
You're not growing either so I'd consider that a failure. Meanwhile class consciousness is becoming more popular in the world. Clown Trump is probably one of the final nails in the coffin.

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>>126161026
You're fucking stupid. The plan was for Stalin to set up a puppet government in Finland. He failed massively.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Democratic_Republic

>Headed by Finnish politician Otto Ville Kuusinen, the Finnish Democratic Republic was Joseph Stalin's planned means to conquer Finland.[1][2][3][4]

>The Soviet Union argued that it was the only rightful government for all of Finland

You got your shit pushed in, dumb marxian nigger.

>>126161319
Wtf? I just said that OP is gay and that he should delete this thread?

>>126161335
ur not growing eider so id gonsider dat a failur. meanwhil glass gonsiouznes iz begoming more bopular in finald. glown (((drumpf))) iz brobali 1 of da finald nails in teh goffin

>>126161415
Just let dutchbro vent by shitposting in this thread. This thread is a garbage dump anyways so why even care.

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>>126161471
>23 posts by this ID

>>126161415
WTF :DDDDDDDDD I jusd said dat fag iz gey & that xir shuld derete dis treadXDDD

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>>126161244
True that

>>126161335
>You're not growing either so I'd consider that a failure.
Denial is the first stage of acceptance.

> Meanwhile class consciousness is becoming more popular in the world.
How is this bad for natsoc?
Natsoc is about bringing the classes together and working for a common goal.

>>126161528 (You)
>16 benis by dis ID

>>126161351
Finland thus remained independent and capitalist. While ex-ussr countries are all third-world shitholes set back decades by communism.

Daily reminder that north korea is the truest form of socialism

North Korea best Korea

>>126157992
Get out. Better dead than red. Sage and hide these threads!

>>126161594
kek

>>126157992
>>126158125
>>126158293
>>126158468
>>126158654
>>126158848
>>126159263
>>126159650
>>126159925
>>126160039
>>126160435
>>126160768
>>126160775
>>126161026
>>126161335
>>126161528
>(You)

>>126161629
>>126159796
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>>126161629
stop larping. nobody on pol is commie

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>>126161564
You have against liberals, socialists, communists, capitalists, globalists, civic nationalists, centrists etc.
If you think you have any kind of numbers to fight all these people then you're delusional and have powerfantasies. In fact you're probably a basement dweller. Go outside and get some fresh air.

>>126161645
All ex-USSR countries improved during their time in Soviet Union.

>>126161939
What's the matter? Stopped benis posting?

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>>126158620
>People unironically post Stalin when he killed more Leftists than the entire Third Reich combined

I forgot, every Lefty thinks they're the ones who're going to be shooting people in the back of the head, not the ones kneeling and crying for their mommies in the Lubyanka building.

>>126162020
>polls

False. All ex-ussr countries are now better off than they were at any point during communism.

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/shleifer/files/normal_countries_draft_sept_12_annotated.pdf

>>126162131
its just sentiment of old people and its probably fake poll too

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>>126162020
No natsoc is obviously not 50% of the population, but it's growing.
You can't hide behind your projecting and shitty meme insults forever. Just accept it senpai, natsoc are growing.

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>>126157992
>markism-lebibism :DDDDDDD

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>>126162131
>union of soviet SOCIALIST republics
>communism
also cute capitalist propaganda you have there, US source is totally reliable. At least you have good taste in statues.

>>126162244
>It's growing in my mind so it's growing in real life
sure thing insect

>>126162010
Pol was always lefty.There is always fight on lefty pol between natsoc and comunists but of course there are some ancap.

>>126162020
>>>126161564 (You)
u hav againsd libs, sozialisds, gommunisds, gapidalisds, globalisds, sivig nadionalisds, sendrisds
iv u think u hav any gind of numbers 2 fite al dese beeple den ur deluzional & hav powerfadasies in fag ur brobably a basment dwelr go aussie ged sum fresh R

>>>126161645 (You)
all x USA gountries sdarved during ther tiem in soviet fashionXDDD

>>>126161939 (You)
wads the madder sdopped benis bosding :DDD

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>>126162317
>every example of communism has failed
>it's not real communism ^:)

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>>126162335
you are clearly just trolling... anyway, being communist means being jewish pawn and enemy of white race. ofc white russians were first victims of jews

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>>126162317
Just look at NMR, they are growing.
accept it.

>>126162020
>>126162226

Its fake poll because people here love comunism more than 45% and soon we will have our socialistic republic back and we will make comunism great again.

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>>126161335
>Meanwhile class consciousness is becoming more popular in the world.

It actually isn't... At all. Racial consciousness is the only thing growing in awareness. American politics has slid so far to the right that the closest thing to a "Socialist" that you can run in America is literally a neoliberal advocating policies that would have been "progressive" in 19th century Prussia.

Meanwhile the SD is marching in the streets of Sweden, FN got 40% of the ballot, the German military is increasingly and frighteningly Wehraboo, and as the inevitable South African race war ticks down, nobody actually gives a shit about "muh class consciousness," they care about not being murdered by shitskins.

>>126162568
you are that cuck posting czech right? who cant stfu about black dicks in white women etc etc

>>126162317
>>>126162131 (You)
>fashion ov sovietds sozialisds republigz
>gommunism
also cute gapidalisd bropoganda u hav der, USR sourcy iz totaly reliable ad leasd u hav good dasde in sdadues

>>>126162244 (You)
>is grobing my my mind so iz grobing irl
sur thing inzecd :DDD

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>>126162317
>c-capitalist propaganda
>literally objective evidence

Communists are truly some of the dumbest motherfuckers there are.

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>>126162317
>It was not real communism!
Look guys he did it again!
Days without a commie saying it wasn't real communism : 0

>>126162568
You are propably natsoc shill or jew. You know we killed many jewish traitors of our great socialistic country. What about people like Rudolf Slánský which we killed and he was jew like many others. Stalin didnt trust jews too and Hitler was paid by rich jews like Rothschilds.

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>>126162886
>Hitler was paid by rich jews like Rothschilds.
Hitler literally confiscated the Rothschild bank and kicked him out of Germany what are you even talking about.
Also talk about the kettle calling the pot black, soviets were under the Lend Lease act during the WWII and accepted all sorts of stuff from the kikes.

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>>126163080
Making burgers eat salad? There's literally nothing wrong with that. Nothing at all. They should learn that Southern European salads are breddy good.

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>socialist beliefs
>"intellectual labor is not real labor"
>"labor is only manual physical labor put in the creation of a commodity"
>"workers are being exploited because they don't get returns from the investments they never made"
>"profitable investments (aka, economic growth) should be outlawed to stop the exploitation of the worker"
What could go wrong?

>>126162641
No im not cuck i would gladly kill people like you who dont love our history full of great people which loved socialism. We dont love lazy people like you and your black friends from Africa because you must be productive. Communism was a past and is the future of our country and our people.

>>126157992
Serious question:

I like cocopops. How will communism provide me with cocopops?

>>>126163275 (You)
maga burgers ead saladXDDD its lit nuffin worng wif dat. nuffin ad al. dey shuld lern dat soudern eurobean saladz r bready gud

>agree

north korea best korea

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>>126163389
Soviets came up with alternatives all the time. Zukov loved coca-cola and he came up with alternative that tasted the same.

>>>126163530 (You)
sobieds game up wif aldernative amerigans all the tiem:D suckoff loved coke & he game up wif aldernadive dat dasded teh same

>>126163312
ya ya

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>needs to find out market value of product to make the economy planned
>can not find out market value because got rid of market
>as stipulated in Marx teachings - the more work something requires the more expensive something is
>what is automatisation?
>fail
HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE!

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>>126163530
Can you tell me how do you know whether a line of production is worth its costs in a communist economy? Can you tell me how is it possible for me to vote on the costs that other people are willing to incur? How will investments and economic growth be made in a society where gaining from investments is outlawed? Will a government monarch just go around taking risks with the wealth that isn't his?

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Soon in every city. Behold the mighty communist ideology!

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>>126163697
You have to go back.

>>126163288
>intellectual labor is not real labor
Not really.
Scientists, artists, and other intellectuals were well respected in the USSR and Eastern Bloc generally as long as they didn't bother the state authorities too much.
Btw, most Cubans never saw the nice parts of the city before 1959. Tourism and gambling were huge.

>>126163530
I would not argue that cocopops are the coca-cola of cereals. That title would probably go to Cheerios or Froot Loops.

Did Zukov come up with an alternative for not only Coca-Cola, but also Dr. Pepper, Fanta, 7-up, Sprite, Pepsi, etc etc?

Also i prefer Pepsi.

>>126162772
>a political ideology has different groups that just have one thing in common
STOP THE PRESSES GUISE!!!!!! I GOT A REAL STORY FOR YA GUISE LOOK IM LE REDPILLED TROLLING LE COMMIE JOO CONSPIRACY AND LE NIGGERLOVING KIKE JEW GOOK LIBRULS XDDDD!!!!!!!!! 1488 PRAISENING KEKENING LE_DOLAN HEIL MUSTARD RACE CAPITALISM!!!!!!

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>>126164105
i have bad news for you, it was real communism.

>>126162131
Actually, the 90s were a disaster for a lot of ex-USSR countries.

>>126164105
>a political ideology has different groups that just have one thing in common

And yet when each of these different groups fail you immediately cut off all ties to it and claim it wasnt real socialism/communism.

>>126163945
In my country in comunist era we had alternatives and they were also much healthier.and better quality.

>>126164313
Recovery fron a system you've lived under decades isn't instantaneous. The USSR collapsed which caused recession for many of the countries. Ex-ussr nations are now much better off than they were at any point during communism.

>>126164362
Each of those groups hasn't failed.

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KEKMUNISM FAILS 100% OF THE TIME

>>126164550
An excellent example of the failures of Marxism is how China and Vietnam abandoned socialism during the late 70s and 80s respectively and saw their GDP skyrocket and poverty rates plummet.

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Sometimes I get a bit shocked putting in my mind all the damage marxism has done to society. It seriously brings me down to reality.

Imagine this:
>China, Russia, and a good chunk os South East Asia could be as developed as Europe by today
Let's try to keep in mind how much marxism has shaped the current world for the worst; pretty much all bottom 50% in wealth of the planet were marxists on some point; and even the ones that aren't openly marxists, still carry marxists residues in economic policy.

After the fall of the anti-communist regime in brasil, and the election of marxists all over the country, crime went up 300% and hasn't fallen yet. We had a lower crime rate during an anti-communist dictatorship 30 years ago. Places in China that never experienced war are just slightly richer than Africa, the Baltic states are the poorest white countries on planet earth.

It hits you hard when it sinks in how much destruction a single ideology was capable of laying on mankind. We are talking about billions of people living poorer lives for over 100 years thanks to marxism.

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>>126163904
>intellectuals were well respected in the USSR
Kurwa co to ja zcytam?

>neighbour wants your nice house/flat/loot
>writes letter to KGB/NKVD/CHEKA
>youare arrested at night
>fair communist trial with no lawyers or representation
>sent to gulag
This shit happened regularily to anybody.
>be acuited because FAU2 is boss
>only imprisoned enemies of the state can build rockets, no commie got no brains anyhow
>strap stones and sticks basicly and put mankind out of earth orbit
>right on underfunded lunar mission health catches up to you
>die at old age of 59
This kills the comies wet dreams of space expansion.

>>126164597
Alright why is venezuela,north korea, vietnam, every socialist/communist african countries, USSR, complete impoverished shitholes. Why did 50 years of socialism turn Greece from a 0 debt country achieved by the junta into a debt-ridden corrupt nepotistic shithole.

>>126157992
No communist can ever tell me the answer to this question. Do communists not have preferences? I mean preferences in the widest meaning of the word.

Obviously the answer is yes, you project your preferences in everything you do. After all, you prefer communism over capitalism.

This conclusion leads to a dramatic problem with communism however. That is, who's preferences matter?

An illustrative example is this: Many people like breakfast cereals. I like cocopops, someone else might like honey loops because he's a faggot who wants a bowl full of little anuses.

Now which cereal do we decide to produce?

There is a lot of choice in cereals in a capitalist society, does a communist society intend to match this?

If not, why not? Do your preferences matter more than those of other people. Is it not morally unjust to make me eat honey loops?

If so, how do you decide how much to produce of each "brand" etc. It is not hard to see this quickly becomes a massive state expense. I do not believe communism actually can go down this road at all. We see this in practice too, where diversity of goods plummets under socialism/communism.

>>126157992
>Marxism-Leninism
fuck off with your dead branch

>>126164927
Trivial. Starving people don't care about what brand of cereal they are going to eat as long as they get to eat.

>>126164927
>does a communist society
HA! Silly capitalist, in glorious communist society you have no breakfast! See people with full belies! No need to eat!

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>>126164927
See, full bellies, no need for breakfast!

>>126164753
You are true kike arent you? You think only about money. This map is bullshit. also i can buy more goods for my salary in my country than german from his salary in his own country cuz quality of live is better in my country.

>>126165350
Jewish propaganda from West or they were too lazy to work.

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>>126164837
>>126165141
>>126165350
>Irrelevant hohol enters the scene
Hohols are by their nature selfish. You deserved holodomor. Stalin didn't order starving your people but you deserved every bit of it. Putin should annex your land and hang your people.

>>126164837
That kind of shit, while awful, wasn't particular to intellectuals, and what's more, was mostly a thing before the 50s. The repression eased a lot after Stalin died.
>>126164893
Many of those follow the same model or similar models of communism. Some aren't even socialist or communist. Look up Thomas Sankara if you want to see Marxism-Leninism in action successfully. The non-purely-Marxist-Leninist countries did a lot better though. See: Rojava, Seychelles, or Titoist Yugoslavia.

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>>126165405
Can you tell me how do you know whether a line of production is worth its costs in a communist economy? Can you tell me how is it possible for me to vote on the costs that other people are willing to incur? How will investments and economic growth be made in a society where gaining from investments is outlawed? Will a government monarch just go around taking risks with the wealth that isn't his?

In short, can you prove your ideology is not completely delusional? It would be far easier if we were to just cut to the chase.

>>126165500
Can you please not ignore my questions? Why would the workers deserve investments they never made? How come hiring someone with your own money is exploitation?

>>126165500
>Putin should annex your land
He tried and failed XDXDXD

>>126165613
>The repression eased a lot after Stalin died
10 arguments/10
>>126165778
Considering that he roots for Russia to annex something and his flag he is unlikely to be a genuine poster.

>>126165813
Not one Russian troop stepped in Ukraine
>He tried lol!
>Hohol intellectuals
I'd make holodomor look like fasting

>>126165992
How do you know whether a good is worth its costs in a true communist economy? How can I vote on the costs other people will have to take?

>>126165613
>Rojava, Seychelles, or Titoist Yugoslavia.
Even though they did better than other socialist/commie countries they still were/are shitholes.
>Thomas Sankara
Burkina faso was and still is a shithole, the only african country that mattered and was succesful was Apartheid South Africa. Would you rather live in Burkina Faso or in Apartheid South Africa?

>>126165620
In my communists adaptation we had almost everything what could be produced in our land. We exported so many goods and food. Everyone could eat whatever he wanted also they were producing goods which people wanted to buy so if you see this cereal is more profitable you will produce more. Pic is not related to my communist country Czechoslovakia because we weren't lazy like Latino. Our country was without any doubt, but now in capitalism era we have biggest debt.

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>>126158125
hey commie, it took more then 50 country's to try and stop it.
how many country's at once attacked commie land?

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>>126165992
>Not one Russian troop stepped in Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkLz7wTB38c
>russian soldiers capturing the pairlament of CrimeanAutonomusRepublic
Yep, you're a shill.

>>126166455
Implying Crimea was Ukraine.Perhaps on paper my polish bandera boy.

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>>126166273
Seems like you couldn't even answer a single thing I asked.
>ignores questions
>communism good we produce lot food, latinos dumb and lazy, but now we have debt because capitalism
This seems like a very toddler-like thought process. Doesn't really make your ideology look good.

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>>126166455
Fake news, kill yourself hohol. You're not a real country.
>NBC news
lmao

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>>126166975
Why do you ignore every single one of my posts?
Why would the workers deserve investments they never made? How come hiring someone with your own money is exploitation?

>>126165992
>>126165992
>I'd make holodomor look like fasting
This is the real face of communism Ukraine. Never ever fall for the communism scam again please.

>>126168593
>haha lol if I take it out of context that will make me right
That only applies for hohols, Greek failure. Hohols aren't human beings.

>>126168593
It's twice as hard now, because of the seventy years of negative selection the commies have been doing. there are a lot of devoted communists here now and I can sort of understand them, if you did not blindly follow communist ideology you were more likely to get shot/sent to gulag. Everything we see in eastslavic block today is the result of that process. people just hve no genes responsible for making buisness left in enough quantities for it to matter. This is the true scary fact about communism, the longer your country is "building communism" the harder it is to remember how to actually make a profit out of your existance.

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>>126157992

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just stopping by to say FUCK YOU, KILL ALL COMMIES, HEIL HITLER.

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>>126168949
They are more human than russian subhumans.

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>>126169657
Russian "subhumans" still aren't as bad as Turkish rapebaby as you are. You're not even white as you like to pretend to be. Mere cockroach.
That doesn't matter to me whether someone is white or not but at least I don't pretend to care as you do.

>>126170060
>Turkish rapebaby
Its the other way around historically illiterate finnmong. Turks got greek'd instead and its pretty obvious by seeing the haplogroups remained practically the same from ancient greece up to modern times. Also if you want to see a non greek'd turk just go deeper in anatolia and you shall see. Don't forget the fact that wherever russians go they rape the local populace and they make snuff films look like disney cartoons in comparison. Try again fingolian, your arguments are weak and are not based on reality.

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>>126158760
Heil

>>126158293
>T. A ideology with a hundred of years without have a sucesfull result
Ok

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>>126170476
Now you're pretending like Ottomans didn't make you their slaves. That's sad. Pretending to be white "I-I'm w-white pls accept me". That's how sad your life is. Oh well, you're hilarious. At least there's that. Please keep powertripping, it's hilarious.
But don't worry, whether you're white or not doesn't matter to me. I hate idpol.

>>126170476
>implying a finn would be a commie and a slav lover
hes some crypto ivan crying that his glorious ussr army got btfo by a bunch of snowmongols

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>>126158760
ZIEG

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>>126170840
Never said Greeks are white, in fact we are mediterranean just like italians, spaniards, malta, south french and portuguese. Even though they enslaved us, you can still see that our haplogroups are entirely not the same and this debunks your idiotic uneducated statement that Greeks are turk rapebabies. Burden of proof is on you to prove me otherwise, im waiting.

>>126171318
who the fuck says greeks arent white? You sure arent pale as me ,but your skin coulour is clearly white/olive couloured. Ive never seen anyone outside of pol claim greeks arent white. Italians are even whiter ,the only one where its hard is the swarthiest of sicilians ,they may be not white

>>126172020
The term white majority of the times is used indicates Nordics/Germanics/Slavs. Personally im against the american idiotic White dichotomy and prefer to name things the way they are like Germanic,Mediterranean,Nordic,Slav,Saxon,Anglo etc.

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>>126171318
At this point it's blatantly obvious he's>>126170840
a shill. Better ask yourself who profits from sending communist shills on payroll to attempt and brainwash us? Maybe he >>126171006 is right and it's an ivan, maybe he's paid. I say despite our respective haplogroups we must work together to stave off the red menace.

>>126172246
meem country is right

>>126172246
>I say despite our respective haplogroups we must work together to stave off the red menace.
Agreed, communism is a global threat that must be vanquished once and for all in order for the modern world to be saved. Crony capitalism must go as well, since it funds communists/socialists/cultural marxists.

>>126172202
i agree.

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>>126172246

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>>126157992

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>>126174713
Comrade, you're alive. Good

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Lenin walks around the world.
Frontiers cannot bar him.
Neither barracks nor barricades impede.
Nor does barbed wire scar him.

Lenin walks around the world.
Black, brown, and white receive him.
Language is no barrier.
The strangest tongues believe him.

Lenin walks around the world.
The sun sets like a scar.
Between the darkness and the dawn
There rises a red star.

Are you TheFinnishBolshevik from Youtube?

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>>126179267
No, this is the 100th time I've been asked about this

>>126179371
Ah, okay. Just wanted to ask a question about communism. Do you think that under Stalin, Castro, or any other "Communist" leader in the 20th Century, that the period of a "dictatorship of the proletariat" would have ever subsided and allowed the state to wither away? Do you not agree that, by concentrating massive amounts of power into the hands of a few after a communist revolution, without any checks or balances, that it produces a new ruling elite that prevents the supposedly inevitable ultimate historical epoch of communism being achieved?

>>126179027

That image is cringey as fuck.

Why do commies always have to be so cringey.

>>126179027
If this is (((communism))) then why does it never happen? You advertise it as a miracle cure for all worldy problems, but oddly enough, people don't flock to convert to it. Most capitalist places are just fine, and we, as stated, don't need you to fuck this system up.

>>126179664
>Do you think that under Stalin, Castro, or any other "Communist" leader in the 20th Century, that the period of a "dictatorship of the proletariat" would have ever subsided and allowed the state to wither away
Yeah in time, but capitalist countries kept threatening them, mainly US. I mean WW3 almost started because of Cuban missile crisis. You can't remove the state if you're being threatened currently, you'll endanger your country to be annexed, don't you agree?

>Do you not agree that, by concentrating massive amounts of power into the hands of a few after a communist revolution, without any checks or balances, that it produces a new ruling elite that prevents the supposedly inevitable ultimate historical epoch of communism being achieved
No I don't, it's true that power corrupts, however Stalin and Castro genuinely cared about their people, especially the poor. USSR never listed themselves as "communist", but rather "on their way to becoming one". Communist state won't be achieved overnight. It will come eventually.

Sage communist threads. Always.

>>126166163
>hurrr because they aren't perfect means they're shitholes
ebin
>Apartheid South Africa was good
If you were part of the lucky 10% of the population that wasn't crammed into remote slums with no utilities or jobs, yeah.

>>126169242
>le dysgenics meme

>>126172217
Some of these are true but mildly exaggerated. The others are bullshit found in exploitation movies.

>>126180128
>Most capitalist places are just fine
Oh yeah the third world is sure doing great.

>>126172533
More Hungarian Nazi propaganda pls.

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>>126158125
It hasn't been tried though :^)

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>>126160768
And look where Finland is today

>>126164753
>2015
This map proves that capitalism is destructive

>>126157992
Joseph McCarthy did nothing wrong.

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>>126186787

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OPTIONS FIELD - SAGE DO IT NEWFAGS

>>126186787

Communism yes always.

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>>126187411

>>126187553
>War is peace
The U.S. is the one starting wars
>slavery is freedom
socialists believe in having self management
>stupidity is wisdom
You mean like this propaganda
>humans are trash without value
That's what a lot of western imperialists believe
>chaos is better than order
Who said the USSR had no order
>everything non-communist is nazi
Who said that
>Stalin is better than JC
He brought industrialization to Russia and lifted may out of poverty while Jesus was just an ancient philosopher
>totalitarianism is better than democracy
"The foreign reactionaries who accuse us of practicing "dictatorship" or "totalitarianism" are the very persons who practice it."-Mao
>free market is crony capitalism
workers can be abused under markets
>LSD is a remedy for every problem
Since when?

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>>126157992
>>> /leftypol/

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Free trade societies build walls to keep people outside, comunism builds walls to keep them in.

It's funny how capitalists can't think outside of LE MONEY IS EVERYTHING and don't understand that, for people to live relatively happy/content lives, the ideology is much more important. If the ideology exalts the worker as the pillar of society, if it allows for cultural/spiritual/intellectual enrichment, and if it smooths over the class differences, it leads to a much happier and overall humane state of being regardless of LE GDP and LE IMF INDEX OF WHATEVER THE FUCK.

Seriously, don't you people ever wonder why your system doesn't support culture in any way for example?

>>126188760
Yes, this is why Yugoslavia's passport allowed access to more countries than any other passport in the world.

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>>126158059
/thread

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>>126188618
This is just a mix of /r/fullcommunism and /r/anarchism sperging out.

>>126158851
>Report a political post for being political

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>>126188460

>The U.S. is the one starting wars
Invasion of Korea, Invasion of Afeganistan, Invasion of Vietname, suport for Algerian, Angolan, Moçambican and Guiné wars..
>socialists believe in having self management
Socialism believes in taking away to give to some lazy "poor" hobbo
>You mean like this propaganda
No i mean like commie propaganda "no pasaran" lol
>That's what a lot of western imperialists believe
Westerns believe humans have different value according to what they do and are willing to do for self improvement
>Who said the USSR had no order
Famine pics
>Who said that
Stalin
>He brought industrialization to Russia and lifted may out of poverty while Jesus was just an ancient philosopher
And those factories were built by germans for germans, at least JC created a idea, Stalin created famine
>"The foreign reactionaries who accuse us of practicing "dictatorship" or "totalitarianism" are the very persons who practice it."-Mao
PIC
>workers can be abused under markets
They can also flip of their boss and move to another company
>Since when?
Since the 60´s.

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>>126190631
>Socialism believes in taking away to give to some lazy "poor" hobbo
WRONG

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>>126189823

>>126189199

>Having passport to get to many countries
>Not affording to leave
>End up sucking the guy that gave it to you to cover state fee´s

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>>126191652

Was that after or before going back to capitalist measures to combat famine?

>>126191652
Your pic is communism, not socialism.

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>>126192542

That was thinkling my head to, but in the end its the same shit, socialism is a steping stone to comunism, so these people self-admited that their ideology only works trough autoritarianism.

>>126181722
Much of the third world are failed socialist states and better off than they were 50 years ago.

>>126186980
A first world country?

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>>126194001

Socialist Moçambique capital now.

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>>126194001
>>126194313

Before..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiheHNbUpmA

https://qz.com/458137/mugabe-is-asking-back-the-white-farmers-he-chased-away/

>>126194083
a 1st world shit hole

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>>126157992
Too bad we didn't execute all of you back in 1918. Won't do that mistake again.

>>126194313
Thank you for reminding me that black people destroy everything.
For some reason self-loathing liberals really piss me off this day.

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Oy vei comrades, how is work going ?

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Stalin's a loser