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UK needs more immigrants to 'avoid Brexit catastrophe'

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/19/uk-needs-more-immigrants-to-avoid-brexit-catastrophe

The British economy needs a net inward migration flow of 200,000 people a year, double the Conservative target, if it is to avoid the “catastrophic economic consequences” linked to Brexit, a study by an employer-backed thinktank has said.

The Global Future report says the UK’s low productivity, ageing population and shortage of labour in key areas, such as the NHS, show that net migration of 200,000 will be needed annually.
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>>126146003

But I'v already sent my 8 relatives to England with their families, I'v run out of relatives William, who should I send now?
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https://www.thelocal.se/jobs/article/sweden-needs-immigrants-to-solve-labour-shortage-employment-agency

Sweden needs immigrants to solve labour shortage: employment agency
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>>126146201
His wife is American and he lives in America m8.
>>126146003
http://ourglobalfuture.com/about-us/

(((Thinktank)))

Yeah they keep pushing that, they're also saying that Japan needs them and every other European country needs them. We fucking don't.
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No nation needs immigrants, we aren't fucking colonies anymore
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The only reason Governments are pushing so hard to keep their populations growing is because of the Boomers who voted themselves in welfare based on a pyramid scheme. They got scammed. You can't have permanent population growth, but that's what Boomers got tricked into believing because it seemed like a good idea at the time.

Now they're trying to sell us for money. Either we work harder for their benefit, or they'll try and replace us with immigrant laborers. They don't care, they're on their way out.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34172729

But Germany need immigrants more than U.K.
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>>126146355
Also this stupid thinktank can't even put the decimal in the right place in regards to figures, no wonder the Guardian is reporting this trash shit.
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>>126146003
the kikes just won't quit
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Look at that global future group that published that report pure cancer.Promoted a equally cancerous news outlet
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Every time this "needs more immigrants to survive" bullshit is brought up, no matter what the country, I cant help but think of Denmark or Norway or whoever was it that ran a campaign to make their natives breed, make housing more available instead of importing thousands of goodfornothing doctors and scientists who breed like bacteria and behave thus as well.

(((Odd))) how noone supports their own native populace instead of just replacing it.
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>>126146715
Have you looked through it?

>mfw

And the Guardian is taking it seriously. LOL
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U.S. needs more immigrant.
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>>126146003
I kind of want an economic collapse so WE can have the Hitleresque figure sooner
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>>126146883

Latinos are keeping our birth-rates positive.

They just want us to accept more blacks. We don't need it. Haven't we done enough?
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>>126146003
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>>126146003
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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Italy has a 11% unemployment rate and 10% of the population is already made of immigrants. But Italy needs more immigrants.
Weird.
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>>126146003
We just cant win, can we?
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>>126147275
No goy, you must be bred out of existence! Remember Israel is your greatest ally.
>>126147366
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8yaiN6ew_g

Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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>>126147419
Of course, they need workers who are willing to do the available work for less than the natives.
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>>126146003
NO

NO

NO
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But can you tell me which African country needs immigrants the most?
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>>126147712
France.
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>>126147750
Don't be this salty darling
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>>126146003
>the UK NEEDS more immigrants
>gets more immigrants
>Uh the UK was NEVER actually white hehe..WE..

..and then your cities get completely ruined and most of your white population starts living out in the country.
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>>126146003
le 200.000 workers
>same number gets thrown around in uk, germany and japan despite all 3 being vastly different economies and populations

kek

>>126146289
>sweden takes it over the top every fucking time

top fucking kek
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>>126146650
just cool it with the anti-semetic remarks
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We sure need all those immigrants as they're never getting older so they are indeed solution to this problem!

CultMarxist logic will never fail to amaze
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>>126147824
I do love you though France.
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>>126147419
But if only 10% who gonna supply your wife with a yummy yummy black cock??
Reminder that the endgame of any state is a genocide of the nation and replacement of it with a group of nationless slaves.
Your ONLY salvation is to hunt a genocide the state and its (((supprters))) skin them alive infront of their tainted spawn and do the same to them.
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>>126146437
Yep. Boomers are too large of a voter demographic to go against them. For the next 15-20 years they will be able to dictate politics.
Shame really. They are a fucking useless generation eating up all that has been accumulated.
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>>126146003
>don't brexit! businesses will move away!
>also you'll have a labor shortage!
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>>126147989
>cool it with the anti-semetic remarks
I think you are in the wrong neighborhood shlomo
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>>126146003

Maybe there would be a higher birth rate if the assholes-that-be would stop mass importing immigrants to deliberately drive down wages preventing single-income to ever be possible in supporting a family.
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>>126146003
>thinktank

Aka women's studies/ sociology/ liberal studies majors coffee shop meet-ups that a rich leftist decided to pay to meet up professionally at an office, label it a "think tank" to give it legitimacy, and then use this "think tank"s findings to spew more propaganda.
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it's a good thing the UK left the EU so that they won't be able to accept European immigrants anymore. non-whites will bring along more diversity
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>>126146003

>a study by an (((employer)))-backed (((thinktank)))

Yes, yes, exactly goy, er, guv. We need to keep those wages low to stay competitive, heh heh.
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>>126146003
>employer-backed thinktank
>p-please we need more cheap labor and lower wages!
The irony is that leftists will defend this while preaching about labor value. Lel
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>>126147857
>same number gets thrown around in uk, germany and japan despite all 3 being vastly different economies and populations
Maybe they figured out through psychological research which number looks least menacing. Maybe they'll come up with
>we need 199.950 immigrants
soon
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WE NEED IMMIGRANTS REEEEE
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>"UK needs immigrants to avoid brexit catastrophe"
I would say the UK needs the brexit to avoid a immigration catastrophe.
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>>126146003
Pretty sure England had an empire that covered half the planet with a population significantly less than it is now
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>>126148507
>199.950
Neva been dun befo.
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>>126148345
No, all that we're going to do with EU migrants is impose the same restrictions that are imposed on non EU immigrants.

Non EU immigrants have to pay for healthcare here, they have to be earning 35k a year etc. Unless they are students (but they pay about 9-10 thousand £ a year to study). Along with being charged to use the NHS..

The pakishits you see are the ones born here, not new arrivals m8... Do you not think this is a fair policy? Our own workers are being made redundant because of EU loopholes and a EU scheme that pays employers in this country £1000 per migrant they hire, an unfair advantage over our own workers. As well as EU workers being allowed to be paid below the NMW which is illegal for British workers because they have to pay national insurance and part of paying national insurance means you have to be paid the national minimum wage.

It's not as simple as saying "shitskins welcome, whitey not welcome".

Stop eating up /pol/ memes. We don't hate Europeans for crying out loud, and we certainly don't prefer pakis to Europeans that actually work here and do well.

Is that really not reasonable in your eyes?
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Beter take a few thousand young black male syrian refugees than!
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>>126146003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-2nByd2cr4
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>>126146289
>>126146355
>>126146437
>>126146456

Who in his right mind expects 3rd worlders joining the work force. This is no longer the Cold war where refugees were mostly the best of the Soviet Union
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>>126148345
We left because we didn't want the fucking rapefugees the likes of Merkel seem only to happy to hand out citizenship to and also the turk roaches trying their upmost to join and get visa free travel so they can roach Europe up even more. The British public has little appetite for mass immigration. Most folk want it stopped or at least drastically reduced to an Australian style points system. You suggest that brexit voters want rid of white EU immigration but want more third world trash but this is disingenuous as most of the third world trash comes in via the EU anyway and voters were very much aware of that. The EU, with the kalergi plan in full swing is cancerous to the extreme. Stop suggesting that brexit was anything other than a good move on the part of the UK woppo.
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>>126146003

All the "refugee crisis" has been, has been a cover story for these countries in a blind panic over their median ages.

Capitalism is and always has been a system propped up by free growth that comes from simple population expansion. The system cannot work with a stable population let alone contraction, it'll all fall apart. But first-worlders don't have babies, they're expensive and first-world women have been told they are failures if they dont hold down a full time job as well.

(women's liberation itself was encouraged by capitalists. double the workforce, driving labor pressure into the basement? *of course* the system was pro-women-working. 50 years later, however, its time to pay the price of that decision)

so where do these old as fuck countries find more babies? Bring in the third-worlders who crank out kids as fast as possible. Oh, they'll not stay third-worlders for long, the kids themselves will grow up and not have babies either, but this isn't a long-term solution, at this point its triage.

The problem is that bringing in muslims, they *wont* become first-worlders. They do not integrate into western first-world society, they go to a western city and the first thing they do is seek to drag it down to hellhole status that they just left.

This is the fundamental problem with capitalism. Its like evolution, it works with what it has but makes no long-term plans. In the short-term it sometimes works spectacularly, in the long-term it tends to lead to mass extinctions from dead-end products like, say, koala bears who evolved themselves into a dead end street. Capitalism is steering itself at full speed into an end of the civilization that makes capitalism possible.
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>>126146003
No more immigrants, if western countries will die without importing shitskins, let them die. If these people are so necessary for our survival, why are the nation's they're immigrating from such shitholes?
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>labour shortage
>bring african immigrants
>they don't work and become another burden
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>>126149066
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/03/13/eu-migration-centre-africa-6-million/
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>>126146003
>Never talk about automation
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If Brexit is going to be such a horrifically bad thing for Britain then why does Europe keep trying to stop them?

...I'm not sure what I just said
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>>126146201

The father on the right knows he fucked up.
Poor bastard.
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>>126146003
Alternatively just fucking make some changes to the current system which obviously isn't working if you need to import people from outside of it to keep it afloat.
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>>126149125
Disgusting.
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Automation will way more jobs than 200k year anyway.

The correct answer is that the UK needs 0 net flow.
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>>126148974
Turkey will never join EU, for their sheer population if not for anytihng else, If they joined they could have outvoted germany.

Also UK has a special agreement with turks, ankara agreement iirc, that recieve turkish immigrants bypassing the eu regulatons even before the brexit era.

I always wondered why no one talked about ankara agreement but turkey in eu!!! meme was repeated throughout the brexit days. I guess its a better scaremongering `roaches in eu` vs `we have agreement with turks about immigration already`
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>>126146003
>“catastrophic economic consequences” linked to Brexit,

Like what? Rising wages, falling crime and lower social spending?
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>>126146003

Or they can stop taxing intelligent children out of existence, that's an idea.
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>>126149017

this guy gets it
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>employer-backed think tank

Wow it's almost as if people who want cheap labour are likely to fund research that says we need immigration
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>>126148882
>Who in his right mind expects 3rd worlders joining the work force
Don't be a bigot.
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>>126146003
all thesecountries with record unemployment and "labour shortages"
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>>126146355
It would be better if each nation took steps to increase fertility rates amongst their own people. Sure, it would take longer, but overall be better for the country.
This "open they flood gates" shit is a cheap and dirty bandage that is going to infect the host rather than fix the problem
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they need all these immigrants to work the cotton fields or something?
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>>126149017
Nice observation.
Thankfully the old libertarian dominated /pol/ is gone. Back when statist was used as a serious insult and Any form criticism of capitalism would be ignored.

You cannot grow forever, something will got to give and the bodies will hit the floor.
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>>126149992
When I was a little bitty baby my mama would rock me in the cradle
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what are a bunch of lazy, uneducated idiots going to do other than drain the welfare system?
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>>126146003
>employers pushing for more cheap slaves
Wow, who would have thought.
Bad luck for them though since May seems to value the opinion of the average Brit over those of (((lobbyists)))
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>>126146456
(((Robert Peston)))
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>>126147857
>>same number gets thrown around in uk, germany and japan despite all 3 being vastly different economies and populations

Sounds familiar
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>>126150058
Surplus labor is always and advantage. You want raise? Better working conditions? I can fire your ass and hire someone who would do the job for the half of your salary, now be a good boy and get back to work.
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>>126147989
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>>126146003
Canada needs immigration too, funny that all white western countries NEED immigration...I thought automation was going to eliminate jobs?
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>>126146883
why are those people raising their right arm?
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>>126146003
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAAHAAHHHAHAHAAHAHHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHHHSHAHHAHAHAJAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAH
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>>126150214
Not the jobs that slaves do.
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>>126149017
See I find this far more realistic and true to what we are seeing rather than the Jews are trying to get the 3rd world to breed us out of exsistance. However this is still terrifying. I don't have an issue with immigration, you just have to be very careful what you are bringing in.
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>>126146003
(((Thinktank)))
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>>126146003
>replacing white immigrants from eastern europe who work and raise families for shitskin arabs and niggers who will do nothing but rape more of your women and leech off welfare and the NHS

BREXIT YES!
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>>126148263
>masturbation machines
They just laugh at our faces with shit like that, and most people will still remain oblivious.
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Shotguns with clips, learn how to grow food, move to the countryside...watch the news @11 of allah akbar. in the major cities. Get a beer.
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>>126150417
read jews
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>(((think tank)))
>(((the guardian)))
fuck off.
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>>126150383
>See I find this far more realistic and true to what we are seeing rather than the Jews are trying to get the 3rd world to breed us out of exsistance

That's because you are a jew yourself.
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>>126146003
Why is it that the left will always, without a fail, react like this?

>there is a problem
YOU NEED MORE MUSLIMS. YOU NEED MORE AFRICANS.

Yes, in times of war, I will fully support that notion. Start throwing muslims and africans against your enemies. At the very least there will be less brown people then. But this can't be the answer to everything!
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>>126146456
Someone get that poor child a job
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>>126148573
you have to see the context though, around the time of WW2 the human population only had 2 billion people, before WW1 it was even only at 1 billion
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>>126146201
>Those noses

Not sad at wall
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>>126146003
>the NHS needs more immigrants to look after all the immigrants
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>>126150467
>"We hate immigrants! We are out of EU now!!"
>Get even more immigrants shitskin than before
Kek
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>>126150854
So what we need is the CIA to get to work on getting China and India to attack into Africa and the MIddle East.
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>>126150790
>Why is it that the left will always, without a fail, react like this?

Because the jewish owned media tells them it.
Africans and Arabs don't work, they are subhumans that come to leech.

In Sweden fewer than 500 of 163,000 migrants found jobs, thats a 99.99% unemployment rate. How will a burrden of 162,500 people on the generous swedish welfare system help the economy?
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>>126150962
and assign Russia as the humanitarian NGO.
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>>126146003

>problem?
>solution: immigrants.

Always.
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>>126146003
>not taking in 2000000000... Billion Somalians to put on eternal welfare means no immigration at all
Just encourage the productive class (whites) to have children again.
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>the economy needs this, even if it's bad for the people
The economy requires the resources for endless growth. It's unsustainable. The sooner we realize this the better.
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>>126146289
>take in more migrants than any other euro country
>need more that actually work
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>>126150770
Not at all leaf. I'm open to idea that the Jewish elite want to create a race of nationless, light brown, Sub 100 IQ consumer units. I've only just taken the red pill I'm just coming to the end of the denial stage.
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>>126151189
We need the land of the Rising Sun to start their empire expansion to save us. UNLEASH
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>>126146003
Yeye we get it just replace the people who built the country with shitskins who never built anything, what can go wrong?
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>>126151293
>implying nips arent fighting culture war with high class weaponised autism already
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>>126149017
it's time to start paying white people to have kids. $5,000 per baby. that's an investment for the future of our race for fuck sake. don't give me we can't afford it either.

200,000 white babies x$5,000. is only $1 billion dollars
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Listen

>No

>One

>Needs

>Imigration
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>>126151003
>How will a burrden of 162,500 people on the generous swedish welfare system help the economy?
The swedish government borrows more money to give to the leeches. They then spend the printed money in the swedish economy, thereby increasing the swedish gdp. Ofc this is like pissing your pants when you are freezing to death. It warms you for about 10 seconds and then makes it all much worse. But, that is the answer. It is irresponsible to future generations and the people supporting this deserves expulsion no matter their ethnicity.
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>>126151383
AUTIZMAURI
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>>126151220
It's because the faggots take in retards. And then they act surprised that they end up on welfare. If you accept a goat herder don't act surprised that they can't do anything in Sweden because their only qualification is to herd goats.
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>>126151543
(((someone))) need it though
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>Boomers afraid of having a small pension
>Boomers vote for this crap
>we're not getting out of this ponzi scheeme anywhere soon
We need less immigration and generally a smaller human population. good thing antibiotics may be failing more and more, at least there is hope.
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>>126147607
the only way to increase dividends goyim and the market is debt saturated
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>>126151635
That is racist. All human are equal. There is no difference between men and women nor the races. Darwin was wrong, everyone knows that.
http://archive.is/dBehg
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>>126146003
the guardian is a lying piece of trash that has no credibility these days its just a marxist mouth piece
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>>126146003
I'm coming to UK, I'll be the proper British gentlemen that the Britain needs ;-)
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>>126151838
You missed the point I never implied the race, I'm just saying that if you let a goat herder into your country and there are no goats for him to herd, what exactly is he supposed to do if he's a retard who herded goats all of his life
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>skilled labour
Wrong.
They need 200 000 BASED BROWN MEN per year
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>>126151635
there was a swede yesterday, posted a picture of a dead goat, it was in a muslim area, said goat reportedly had semen in its anus
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The fact remains ...we have to reduce population on this planet. It's going to require some tough choices. Birthrates are unsustainable in the 3rd world. 6 FUCKING KIDS PER WOMEN. Sterilizing has to fucking happen.
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>>126146003
Just say no
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>>126152070
a huge part of goat herding is to assert dominance by mounting them
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uk need less migrants xd
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>>126149179
The father racemixed too, he doesn't give a shit.
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>>126146201
Kek, Bantladesh.
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When does it end lads
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>tfw my once bluepilled parents have started to despise all immigrants
>mother keeps bringing up how they're all rapists
>I didnt even do anything to cause this change in their opinion, just happened naturally
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>need more immigrants to fuel economic growth
fucking pyramid scheme
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>>126151977
Sorry then.
>>126151977
>what exactly is he supposed to do if he's a retard who herded goats all of his life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C--olgLsQE
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>>126152239
>>>126005111
thread was off the wall
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I'd rather have a robot than a shitskin
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>>126146003
I wonder what its like to be so divorced from the everyday realities of your fellow man that you begin to look at them simply as numbers on economic reports. Must increase population by x in order to make sure economic developement remains y. They forget that the equation is not so simple because human beings are not so simple. Sometimes i feel like the only leftist who looks at immigration policy this way. At least the media is moving away from the white man's burden narrative supporting mass immigration that works so well with guilty white bourgeoisie and being honest about using them purely for potential economic growth. Fucking commies and corporatists have destroyed left liberalism. Hold me /pol/ :(
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>>126152481

That's what living around them will do.

Funny how that works.
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>>126149017
>muh capitalism
It was Lenin who first embraced women becoming liberated and getting them integrated into the workforce. Clearly the problem here isn't capitalism, it's (((them)))
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>>126152772
t.Bootlicker
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>the guardian

Can't say I'm surprised
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>>126152914
Nice argument, leftypol
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>>126152731
economists are super autistic
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>>126146289
Immigrants throw the grenades that Swedes won't throw.
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>>126146003
Ahhhh the Guardian, it's like CNN only even more cucked if that's possible.
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>>126147989
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We are all humans sharing the same planet. This shouldn't even be a debate.
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>>126146003
>people vote Brexit because of too many migrants
>after Brexit we need more migrants
Hmm, really makes you think.
Gaze upon democracy where people don't decide anything and are being replaced and mixed.
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>>126152731
Politics really do make strange bedfellows. Commie libatrds have teamed up with globalists kikes. The commies want to destroy the west with rampant immigration and the globalists want cheap brown slave labor, it's a match made in the darkest pits of hell.
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>>126153252
Need less humans...sorry..they lost the land lottery from birth.
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>>126153252
>We are all humans sharing the same planet.
Some humans are civilized, others are not at all. Then there is a spectrum in between.
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>>126153167
The funny thing about leftists is that when they finally get everything they want their response is to flee to white, right-wing areas.
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>>126146289
It would be nice if they told what this economic growth is, i can tell you what it is. Illegally constructed apartments for illegals with illegals where they make huge profits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ0Nr3OxCVI
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>>126153401
>The commies want to destroy
Period.
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>>126153401
Seriously. What a great irony that the autist corporatists best friend is the tankie commie. Turns out economic concerns go by the wayside when two supposed enemies have the shared goal of imposing control over the "masses."
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>>126151973
Shit right in the middle of street IMMEDIATELY!
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>>126153253
Immigrants are cheap and an easy way to work society it's lazy
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>>126153401
http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/rp/BudgetReview201516/Gov
>Smaller Government agenda

It's not the Commies, it's the small government monarchists. Commies had no refugees, China doesn't even has migrants today, but look at that, you anti-Commies with small government are the top migrant importers. Australia has 2 times as many migrants as Sweden.
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>>126153571
Well yeah, that's the point. They want to destroy the basic fabrit of western culture to foment revolution. Immigrants (especially immigrants of vastly different cultures) serve this end goal perfectly. These imiigrants serve to fracture the monolithtic white voting bloc. The globalists also want this due to whites being uppity bastards that tend to fight for workers rights like during the industrial revolution. What the useful idiot commies don't realise is that the globalists hold all the real power and they will be simply thrown away when they no longer serve their purpose. And by thrown away I mean rounded up and shot just like in every commie revolution.
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>>126153774
We have longer school than ever before and longer working hours than ever before. It's not that society is lazy, it's because illegals don't have to be registered, don't have to be insured and mainly because illegal international business isn't controlled by government, since capitalists thought it would be a great idea to set them free.
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>>126154155
What are you balbeling you retarded Christian shit? I just posted to you evidence that you have the most migrants and Communists have no migrants. Does North Korea have migrants? Stupid kike on cross worshiper.
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>>126146003
Economy does well
>We need immigrants because not enough workers
Economy is bad
>We need immigrants because muh GDP
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>>126154368
>implying anyone would want to go to North Korea
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>>126147989
Nigger faggot kike, go back to plebbit
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>>126154368
Oh I thought you were agreeing with me. I guess it's too much to hope that a fucking slav nigger has even a basic grasp of a civilized tongue.
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>>126154518
>implying you will divert from subject
>implying your arguments are worth anything
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>>126146003
>(((www.theguardian.com)))
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>>126146003

>flag
Check
>guardian
Check
>wild claim
Check
>source is NGO /Think Tank
Check

OH LOOK IT'S

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>>126153401
>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerationism
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>>126154572
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavs
>Slavs are the largest Indo-European ethno-linguistic group in Europe.
Slavs aren't a race you uneducated retard. Go back to kindergarten and tell your government to invent distinction from races like COMMUNISTS DO.

Australian Laws:
https://www.humanrights.gov.au/federal-discrimination-law-chapter-3-race-discrimination-act#3_2_1a
>The word ‘race’ is a broad term.
>term ‘ethnic origin’ has been interpreted broadly

Chinese law:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhonghua_minzu
>"Chinese races", is a key political term that is entwined with modern Chinese history of nation-building and race.
>mainstream Han Chinese and 55 other ethnic groups as a huge Chinese family

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_China
Not allowed by law:
>Jews
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>>126152540

>Dawn of new age of automation, robotic and AI

Jews: Oy vey goyim you need more diversity , whose going to do all of this work for you white people are too dumb and lazy to do it. You need 10 million Africans by 2020
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>>126154606
>talks about diverting from subject
>bashes Christianity out of nowhere
No one gives a shit what any church thinks considering that they can easily be corrupted and used for the benefit of others. Read a fucking history book
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I'd be interested in going there, but they don't want anyone with my admittedly basic skill set with two years in an entry level white collar job.

It's just like Australia 10+ years relevant experience otherwise you need to be brown or black.
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>>126154842
Oh look, the filthy Slav thinks his opinon on anything matters. Don't you have toilets to clean Cvetko?
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>>126155007
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>>126155007

>JIDF D&C

why are you randomly berating people with

>not white enuff

go start an eye color thread jew
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>>126155098
not an argument you dumb bydlo, I already explained you why
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>>126155176
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>>126146003
if the economic system need 200 000 immigrant every year it means that it is a pyramid scheme that will eventually collapse. end it now or suffer a huge catastrophe later on.
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>>126155148
Why do you think i'm a Christian? Because I hate commies? Go back to being 0.88 HDI post commie shithole.
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I see Ivan is getting paid bonus itt
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>net migration of 200,000 will be needed annually
Because keeping that Ponzi redistributionist government scheme going is far more important that preserving a successful culture.
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The last job I applied to had at least 100 other applicants.

Labour shortage? Ha!
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>>126155327
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>>126146003
One world. One continent. One nation. One people. One dhimmi.

>SHIT-POSTERS FOR EUROPEAN CALIPHATE
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>>126155172
Hey he started it. He basically called me a Christcuck because I hate commies, which is odd.
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>>126155290
what in the fuck am I looking at here, and why are they just not deported? shit, we paid the gypsies to leave because everyone knew it was cheaper than jailing them or housing them on welfare
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>>126146003

We didn't need them in the past. If democracy is real, how come whatever we vote for, we get more immigrants? The criminals in charge are just trying to keep the Ponzi Scheme going. Britain, as a nation, is done. Killed by greed and corruption.
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>>126147106
>I kind of want an economic collapse
your wish will come true, it's just a matter of when.
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>>126146003
This sounds like buying another doze instead of seeking anti-drug assistance and help and fixing the problem to me. Immigrants are just that.
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>>126155589
You might be a Hindu or Muslim.
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>>126150530
How fucking dare you deny the 4 gorillion goy! I'll have you know evil white Nazis murdered 5 gorillion saintly Jews who dindu nuffins. There's no way you can deny all the evidence of the 6 gorillion!
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>>126150078
>Bad luck for them though since May seems to value the opinion of the average Brit over those of (((lobbyists)))
Very unlikely.

This is the Tory party. Cameron had the same targets as May does now on immigration ("tens of thousands"), but it didn't happen.

If the media thought the Tories were serious about their immigration targets, they'd be as hostile to them as they have been to Trump.

In reality the business establishment and the media establishment know that Tory immigration promises are utterly meaningless.

Immigration numbers won't meaningfully change in the next 10 years. I guarantee it.
There might be a SLIGHT dip just because of the "sentiment" of Brexit. I.e. foreign people will think "oh Britain is xenophobic so I won't move there".
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>>126146289
>to prevent labour shortages from hampering economic growth

Daily reminder that financialisation is the root of everything wrong with the modern world. When economic growth is held up as the greatest good, anything that stands in the way of the (((free market))) - borders, race, nationalism - will be systematically dismantled.
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>>126147989
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>>126146003
>Guardian always has open comments section
>Strangely not this time
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>>126146201
The mother looks like a jew or some kind of arab. Nothing of value was lost.

The dad fucked up from the start.
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>>126155953
>>126155953
Pure coincidence.
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To sum up the situation:

Capitalist business owners think that there is a labour shortage if they can't replace one of their workers in the time of an hour, say.
They like easily being able to replace their workers. It means the workers have less bargaining power for higher wages.

Nick Griffin was right when he said in EU parliament that it's an unholy alliance between Leftists, who like immigration simply because they want white people to lose territory, and capitalists who like it because it forces natives to compete with the world for their job.
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>good goyim you chased off those pesky 50 poles, 5 Romanians and the half-bulgarian in your town
>fuck globalism right I am your greatest ally
>now import 5000 Arabs to fix the labour shortage
>why 5000? Why, only 56 in 5000 actually work while the others rape your women and institute Sharia law
>but it's ok goy, they are British, they come from the colonies
>long live her majesty
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Guys

This might sound strange, but just hear me out.

Why don't we live within our means?
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>>126155799
>There's no way you can deny all the evidence of the 6 gorillion!
and Saddam Hussein wanted to finish the job! Good thing the US dumped trillions of shekels and thousands of lives in the mid-east
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>>126146003
I wouldn't give a shit about immigration if it was only English speaking white people who came over. Yet the government only seems interested in importing Muslims and sub-Saharan Africans. They could even soften the blow by using east-Asians if they wanted to. Hell, even fucking Mexicans would be better.
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>>126146355
When you go digging around for info about ourglobalfuture, information is thin online.

It's a propaganda machine.
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>>126146003
Golly, Merkel is getting desperate.
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>>126156084
>Why don't we live within our means?
I prefer to live within the memes, our economy is fucked anyway
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>employer backed

Oh so the employers wanting cheap labor say they want more people?

What a surprise.

>>126147607

"Not enough people are enrolling in this position/industry/job, what can we do?" "Well we could increase wages or be competitive with rival industries. Orrrr we can just keep abysmal pay and look for brown and black migrants to do it for pennies on the dollar".

And then the audacity of these cocksuckers going "We really dunno why wages are so stagnant, honestly"
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>>126156061
Mass negro and Arab immigration in the UK came from your colonies and your own immigration policy.

The EU only ever gave you Slavs.

Also vast majority of those Slavs worked in agriculture where it's not about businesses screwing labourers, it's about a strawberry farm owner finding anyone willing to toil away and pull out his back for the marginal salary he can get paid so the guy doesn't lose money off his farm.
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>>126156229
You ever done any farming, burger?

Wanna try check prices and subsidies for any crop you want and let me know how you can also offer competitive wages while pulling any sort of profit?
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>>126156162
All of Catholic south america to import, and its completely ignored.

"You must take in Africans and Muslims from the middle east."
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>take an economic crisis caused by falling population as a result of globalist ideals, that will sort itself in 5-20 years and maintain the integrity, culture and the quality of life of the nation
or
>import people to avoid the 5-20 year crisis and permanently damage the above
This is instant gratification vs delayed.
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>>126156258
>The EU only ever gave you Slavs.
The EU bureaucracy is full of SJWs who want an open border for Europe to the world. The British were right to leave.

And all the European migration still has the harmful effect on the labour economy.
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>>126156084
our economies require ceaseless economic growth or the whole scheme collapses
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>>126156258
>The EU only ever gave you Slavs
That all changed in 2014.
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>>126156391
The amount of migrants from EU open borders policy that came to you guys instead of Germany is absolutely marginal compared to what you import from the colonies.

It's all a plot by (((them))) to distract you from the real genocide. But they play on your naive imperialism, so it works.

Protip - check data on afghanis from 2008-2011 and then from 2015.
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>>126156329

Bulgie, do you really think those 200,000 would be used solely in the agricultural industry? Don't give me the "They do the jobs nobody else wants to do" bullshit, we're fast seeing H1N visas leading to Pajeets and Pakis doing white collar IT jobs and crowding out domestic Americans because they can be paid for cheap. This is not just tomatoe-pickers, this is across the board in any profession they can use cheap third world labor for.
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>>126156485
Still absolutely marginal to colonial migration which is the true genocide.

Nobody is arguing the EU is retarded and killing themselves, I'm just pointing out how you've been deceived for centuries and (((they))) keep leading you by the noses.
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>>126156392
>ceaseless economic growth or the whole scheme collapses
yes goy, keep on racking up that debt
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>>126146003
>labor shortages
>5% unemployed
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>>126156694
Who's talking about America here?

For the record, by the way, you're a country built and still maintained by immigrants coming and taking over jobs. Focus on real issues like your racial civil war and politics being separated from the people.
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>>126150840

he needs to go to school first, he's only young.
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>>126149432
Implying Turks are trustworthy enough to follow agreements.
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>>126157024
Well they're trustworthy enough to be used to destroy other countries
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But I swear one thing, when our economies collapse, when we will have nothing to eat or drink, all because of these fucking mongrels fleeing their countries instead of rebuilding them, then, we will backlash, we will respond with fury and iron, we will fucking slaughter you, the people who made our civilization collapse, even if that will be the last thing we do.
We will seek our vengeance and your blood
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>>126148573
THICC
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>>126146003
>>126146456
>>126146883
>>126147419
>>126146289
Where can we find so many migrants? Every country needs them now.
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>>126146003
How is it not racist to claim anglos can't survive without third world immigrations, while there's constant push for humanitarian shit for the third world because it needs us?
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>>126146003
Great we get to chose the Europeans and nuGermans we allow in, this just reiks of freedom to me damn us free Brits
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>>126149017
This right here.

This is most of the story. Not all, but most. A war is coming, the likes of which we've never seen before.
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>>126157736
>>126149017
>It's all to pay for Boomer's retirement
I fucking hate boomers so much.
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>>126147989
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>>126146003
>Global Future

I wonder if they have an agenda.

>>126156258
>The EU only ever gave you Slavs.

Not true. We've got Somalis via Sweden, Gypsies via Romania and Africans via France. Also the ECHR made it incredibly difficult to get rid of the people who had come from outside the EU. And then there was the Refugee crisis.

>Also vast majority of those Slavs worked in agriculture where it's not about businesses screwing labourers, it's about a strawberry farm owner finding anyone willing to toil away and pull out his back for the marginal salary he can get paid so the guy doesn't lose money off his farm.

This work is mostly contracted by employment agencies, the farmers aren't saving money the contractors are making profit.

>>126153401

The Globalists want to destroy the West as well. I don't believe is simply about cheap labour, you will notice that they're not advocating temporary work visas for people form culturally similar countries, its all about destroying homogeneity, sovereignty and independence so we can all be snared into a global system and trapped under the yoke forever.
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>>126146289
>solve labour shortage

hahaha there's a fucking shortage of housing and jobs
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>>126152481
I actually did, but for my aunt.
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>>126153232
testing
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>>126149017
>The problem is that bringing in muslims, they *wont* become first-worlders. They do not integrate into western first-world society, they go to a western city and the first thing they do is seek to drag it down to hellhole status that they just left.
can confirm, look up Saville Town (Dewsbury) or visit Bradford, Keighley, Nelson, Burnley all once rich industrial towns now unkempt violent shitholes remeniscent of some Jalalabad suburb. Muslims are bad news disregarding the uncivilised behaviour,tax dodging, crime and systematic repreated gang rapes they perpetuate on intoxicated children they vote for whoever gives them the most benefits and their voting stratergies are tribal
TAKE HEED SLAUGHTER ALL WHO ENTER YOUR LANDS
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>>126146003
I don't get it why don't you guys just make jobs more easily available for European and American college who genuinely are interested in your country's culture?

Fuck Americans already know english and are culturally devoid 1 or 2 gens in you probably would not know the difference. Just bring in people from countries that are stable. Otherwise the best you could hope for is the chinese.
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>>126149432
>Also UK has a special agreement with turks
The Ankara Agreement applies to all EU contries as a default from the EEC days
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>>126158478
good post lad.
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>>126156162
Breh even then its just a matter of picking quality. If you decided you would only accept immigrants from south america, if you 1. Had strict quality control process, only letting in people who meet a necessary demand that can't be met locally, and like britain and want to see the country succeed, and have basic standards like accredited degree, speak english don't have crazy beliefs and 2. don't take in a huge rapid influx from one particular region, so that any immigrants are surrounded by britons and are pretty much forced to assimilate. You think some jose who is 80% spanish and is going to med school is really that big an issue? Someone needs to be paid government wages to touch your boo=boos
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>>126146003
Only corporations need more immigrants because they want a bigger and cheaper pool to choose from. More immigrant workers = cheaper labor
cheaper labor = more profits
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>>126159150
This I found quite a few people with college degrees that could not get work in the uk so they came to china instead.
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>>126153401
Peterson said something on this point. He said to watch what someone does in a moral paradox, which side they take, as that will expose their true intentions. Hence why feminists, who hate rape and want more power for women, support Muslims and Islam at all costs even though they are the polar opposite of what feminism claims to stand for. If the goal is to empower women it doesn't make any sense, but if the goal is to subvert western culture and ruin civilization then it makes perfect sense.
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>>126146003
Fuck you Pakis, we all voted out.
Fuck you nignogs, we all voted out.
Fuck you Bolshies, we all voted out.
Amd we all want you out the door.

Glory glory hallelujah,
Glory glory hallelujah,
Glory glory hallelujah,
And we all want you out the door.
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>>126156825
There isn't a race war going on in the United States. Its manufactured by media to present a false narrative, along with politics. No one in this country can be treated unfairly based on race or they can sue the balls off of an employer or state. You are being fed lies to make you think a certain way. T

here isn't racial tension in the United States in reality but media is polarizing us in an attempt to create chaos.
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>>126160013
>in an attempt to create chaos
It's a simple D&C strategy to prevent popular revolt against the ruling order.
It is spiralling out of control, as anyone could have told you, but they didn't think that far ahead.
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>>126156258
>>126156533
>>126156699
>The EU only ever gave you Slavs.
kek no
there was 4 non white kids in my primary school class as a kid and they all came via the EU.
one morrocan kid via holland, one somali kid via denmark, one sudanese kid via germany and one afghan kid via sweden.
agricultural workers only require eastern euros farms make no money as it is and have to rely on extremely low paid migrant seasonal labour to balance the books, entering the EU and removal of tarrifs killed our agriculture for years and forced remaining british workers out.


>The amount of migrants from EU open borders policy that came to you guys instead of Germany is absolutely marginal compared to what you import from the colonies.
what relevance does that have? if you care anbout stopping one does that disqualify you from caring about the other?

>It's all a plot by (((them))) to distract you from the real genocide. But they play on your naive imperialism, so it works.
naive imperialism? why does everything have to with imperialism or empire nostagia with you people? can you not accept that it isn't really relevant in modern britain? if we were imperialists we would care for power projection more than our own native workers and be for inviting everone to come here for muh stronk economy like germany is right now. but of course any assertion of soveregnity or nationalist feeling in the uk is imperialist, i mean what other assumption could you draw without actually thinking about it?
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>>126146289

(((economic growth)))
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The solution to too many immigrants is more immigrants. Don't ask any questions goy.
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>>126146003
What the fuck are they on about thinktanks?
What even is a thinktank?
If I get together with a few mates and have a beer, whilst talking about politics, are we a thinktank as well?
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>>126161119

a bunch of phony researchers paid by business to come up with some convenient truths.
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>>126161119
if some asshole pays you thousands of dollars for your dumb ass opinion, yes
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>>126150214
Propaganda in Ireland. We've been LEAFED.
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>>126146003
>>126146289
Such a bullshit copout for promoting mudslime immigration. Why no countries want to bring in skilled workers from the EU member PIGS? Spain and Greece especially they have 20%+ unemployment rates? Or cheap polish labor? Or go a step futher and import whites from shitholes like russia, ukraine and serbia? Or if they have such a boner for blanda upp, why not import chinese who absolutely adore whites and willing to work in sweatshops for a bowl of rice?

Why do we especially need the dumbest sub-saharan niggers and agressive desert gypsies?
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>>126146003
why the fuck does any country need more people? Why are the countries the immigrants are from not more successful? globalists lies all around....

fuck it lets have war, it seems to be the only universal language......
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>>126146003

Study done by an employer-backed thinktank that wants an unlimited labor supply to undermine wages and increase profits, meanwhile UK/Europe is full of untapped NEETs
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>>126146437
No their kids got scammed. Boomers made out like bandits
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>>126161545
PIGS countries already send their skilled labour to their EU neighbors. Britain is the one that wants to replace them with pakis and sandniggers now.
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>>126146003
fucking kikes STOP
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>>126161700
>if you are concerned about one, it means you want the other

fucking idiot, enjoy having your brightest and best move to germany and france once they get thier qualifications though
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>>126161545
>Why do we especially need the dumbest sub-saharan niggers and agressive desert gypsies?

Because "muh colonialism".
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>>126162310
It doesn't fucking matter what you want. What matters is what you do. By making yourself less desirable to EU migrants, and yet still needing their labor, you'll get lower quality migration instead. Simple cause and effect, and entirely intentional and predictable, so you do want it, otherwise you wouldn't have done it.

>enjoy having your brightest and best move to germany and france once they get thier qualifications though

That already happens, haven't you been paying attention? The only difference is that the UK was also on that list, and now it ain't.
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>>126161227
Spot in.
These people are so full of shit that their eyes are brown.
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>>126146650

Shady Kikes, their machinations keep stress in my mind.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHqxukXHqI8
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>>126162595
>>126162595
>It doesn't fucking matter what you want. What matters is what you do. By making yourself less desirable to EU migrants, and yet still needing their labor, you'll get lower quality migration instead. Simple cause and effect, and entirely intentional and predictable, so you do want it, otherwise you wouldn't have done it
uk companies don't "need" as much migrant labour as they claim to, they take it becuase romanians etc will work hard for less than a reasonable living wage in the UK becuase their money will be worth more back home, all these industries that claim to "rely" on migrant labour were fine before the EU, they have just grown used to paying their workers nothing, our economy is running at an abnormal state.
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We don't need more immigrants...

Our infrastructure is well behind the curve, we need immigration to slow right down.
I'm not hating on those immigrants already here, I hate the game, not the players.

There are locals that will do immigrants jobs, but not for the low wages.

By definition, if your business can't survive unless it needs foreign labour and it pays absolute minimum, you don't have a viable business. It's that simple.

And if that is the case, go bust, get the fuck out of the way and stop being a cancer on the business landscape. Another business will fill the void which will pay people a better wage.

These pro immigration politicians need an awful lot of volts pumping through their genitals.
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>>126146003
Encourage your chavs to start fucking! Spend the money you waste on refugees to offer incentives for birth, and for fuck's sakes put the brakes on your UN depopulation program - the government put it in place, they can stop it!
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>>126146456
is it cuck contest?
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>>126163453
This is true of every first-world economy. They do it because it's more competitive, not to spite you. A single country, especially a country that dismantled most of its manufacturing sector ages ago and that now relies on services will not fix it. If the UK wants to remain a global economy, it will have to compete with other global economies that provide cheaper prices and services by taking advantage of cheap labor, just like UK businesses do.

It's doubly funny trying to fix the issue by curbing legal immigration where only a handful of origin countries can even allow to under-price themselves anyway (mainly EE economies) instead of punishing businesses that pay these fucks under the table or allow them to work illegal hours for illegal wages. They'll keep on doing it, and they'll do it to under-privileged UK citizens or illegals now. They were willing to break the law before, what's stopping them now?
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Oh please we don't want our chav class breeding any more.

Have you ever heard of Jeremy Kyle? Look him up on YouTube. There you will see our finest vermin underclass on display.

I'd prefer extinction than a new wave of these scumbags propping up the population
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>>126146003
>newsflash

every country needs at least 2,1 fertility rate to substain its population, and litterally every developed country needs them
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>>126146003
man, isnt it great that immigration is the cure for everything
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>>126164484
>son
These people have children, while I'm still a virgin.
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>>126146003
I mean I am as 1488 as the next guy but the article is correct.

I have explained time and time again we literally need mass immigration to keep the housing bubble from bursting, because as soon as it bursts it will be financial Armageddon. It literally hinges our entire economy in the UK.
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>>126164843
How about no? If we really need immigration we can immigrate somebody who's close to our culture. Mass immigration will do us nothing good.
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>>126146003

>(((a study by an employer-backed thinktank)))

Oh, for FUCK'S SAKE, just call them the KIKES they are already!
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>>126146003
Countries themselves have turned into fucking pyramid schemes. They require an ever growing influx of people to support the people already in it.

How do we fucking break this horrible thing we've all created?
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Why the shit is maintaining population growth such a priority to these fags? I was raised my entire life hearing "the planet is overpopulated, we're going to run this shit into the ground at this rate" then all of a sudden 10-ish years ago, everyone started acting like if we aren't doubling the population every 25 years we're all going to die in some sort of ill-defined economic crisis.

Isn't conserving resources by having less people more important than playing shell games with made up numbers on spreadsheets?
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>>126165593

Because our current economies are basically pyramid schemes and they need to continually prop it up.
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>>126164843
Either you change the system or muslims and other immigrants will do it for you, just in a longer run. Tear this shit down, and trough this Armageddon there will be a prime opportunity to place your "1488" ideology on the top.
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>>126146003
LOL '' there's lots of old people!"

A problem that solves itself. they die.
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>>126165190
You're not listening. We literally need mass immigration to keep up housing demand. If you stop mass immigration housing demand stops growing and the economy collapses.

Like I said I am all for 1488 gas the kikes race war now, but realistically, we need to leave our current financial system behind for that to be achieved. When they say we need immigration, they are right, to prevent our economy in its current form from collapsing we need immigration. Even if they are unskilled and unemployed, as long as they increase housing demand they are serving their purpose.

Good news is you can only bolster house prices with shit like mass immigration, rock bottom interest rates, and government loans for so long and the whole thing will collapse sooner rather than later regardless of what they do and that will be a good day (unless you are a boomer or some kind of masochist who actually enjoys this wages/debt slave, materialistic, consumer, dystopia.)
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>>126165498
Go back to the extended family unit. Family should keep care of the old not the government.
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>>126146437
Its OK, anon. We'll pull their healthcare out from underneath them as soon as they let their guard down and then we'll buy their assests for pennies on the dollar to settle their medical debts.
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>>126165870
You seem pretty sharp on this subject; at about what point in history did this fucked system become the international norm? Around the time we abandoned the gold standard or so?
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>>126165870
Yeah sure, then'll just build more houses and we'll need even more immigration until we are China.
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Great point. If we use logic, why do we need such "high" wages? Why does the average worker need such a high living wage compared to the rest of the world?

The biggest outgoing is shelter. House prices are so stupidly high, and going higher, that a couple even on an average £50k joint wage have no chance.

Any when they overstretch, how can they afford a family? With great difficulty.

The housing market needs to collapse big time, and stay low to sort out this mess.
And that will be catastrophic for many. But it absolutely has to happen.
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>>126147989
Mate you're Australian, pop down the bottle-o, get some vb and harden the fuck up you pussy cunt.
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>>126146003
With half a million immigrants on welfare, they sure don't need more unskilled, ill mannered, illiterate golly wogs running around Britain. This is obviously a fear tactic to keep up the influx of culture/race diluting savages.
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>tfw your country needs no migrants because there are no jobs

Feels good
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>>126146003
Friendly reminder that you can help this Identitarian movement to defend European borders with a donation:
http://defend-europe.org/it/support-us_it/

Even € 2 or € 5 could help!
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>>126148573
this bitch is turkish, WTF???
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>>126165870
>Need immigration to prevent housing bubble
>Housing bubble will happen anyway.
Ergo we don't need immigration.
Or am I missing something, other than a time delay?
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You will find the same article about all (former) white countries.
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>>126154773
Then explain why it's happening anyways fagwagon

It's an extension of the UN consensus on replacement immigration over a decade ago
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>>126146003
mmmmnmmm whoa

deja vu

im pretty sure ive heard this before, somehow
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All these "bring on the shitskins" articles are fucking absurd. Why not encourage the native population to breed, breed, breed. If you really think declining population is a thing, offer incentives for the natives to breed!
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>>126158478
Right? Why the fuck would THIS be the solution to your "population problem?"
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>>126147275
>wanting to become mexico
mexico has worse muder rates than most of Africa. Go get behaded by a cartel
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