Is transhumanism degenerate?

>>126145570
I'm Christian and I think it might end up being the mark of the beast. People without the augments will be unhireable

transhumanism via genetic engineering is the inevitable future of mankind.

>is being immortal and eternally youthful degenerate?
no it's how we achieve utopia you disgusting insect.

>>126145570
>cyborgs aren't human
they're just amputees with lots of money...
are amputees who can't afford prosthetics human?

its only degenerate if you willingly embrace it

>>126145668

Scripture specifically says the mark of the beast will be a tattoo on the forehead and back of your hand.

>Only people who opppose transhumanism are the ones with perfect bodies
:thinking:

There is nothing wrong about improving the quality of life. You would deny a prosthetic for a man who serving your nation? Fuck off


Also it would be nice if we got rid of aging in next 40 years desu

Not wanting eugenics is degenerate. Being some fucking (((robot))) is testament to a failed Race (Europeans).

Think of lives we could live if we removed our enemies and focused on improving training and nutrition over (((robotics))).

>>126145784

The human parts of them are human. The machine parts are machine. How separate are they, when they are surgically connected and the machine parts receive and obey signals from the brain?

>>126146049

The most healthy, fit human conceivable still cannot defeat the most advanced robot conceivable.

>>126146060
>blood is simply biological coolant.

No, it carries oxygen. Sweat is the coolant.

>Christians can other religious nuts can fuck off to hell

Mormons actually embrace transhumanism as a path to becoming gods of their own planets. But then, Mormons gonna morm.

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Alex Jones says cutting your arms and legs off is all the rave right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG7GwCVG_hI

>>126145570
We already had this thread yesterday and a huge problem was that no one provided their definition for Transhumanism so everyone kept talking about different things.

Skeptical, but if i`m hella old and i`m bored.why not?

>>126146013
>Also it would be nice if we got rid of aging in next 40 years desu

The time frame can be even longer than that. All you need are rejuvenation treatments that turn the clock back for just long enough that you make it to the next wave of medical advances that can turn it back once again.

>>126145570
No, staying bio-human is degenerate. Perfecting yourself through knowledge and technology is what separates humans from beasts.

Is there a working prosthetic hand/arm that exists, similar to that in MGSV? (without all the crazy shit). Because if functioning prosthetics like that exist, I would not mind having an """"accident"""" in which I lose my left hand/arm

>>126145570
if leg prosthetics are much stronger than legs I would cut off my legs to get it

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>>126146217
What documentary is he even talking about?

>>126145570

Degenerate, but most of all a mental illness and should NOT be accepted in any way. We kill to few people. Why? To keep the machine going ofc.

>>126146613
Yes

Its not accurate as human arm but its getting there. I recall attaching it to nervos and bone was the biggest gripe yet

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>>126146732

No, osteointegration has been done recently. The titanium attachment point is drilled directly into the core of the remaining bone.

>have a soul made out of rancid shit
>it's okay though check out all this metal shit I have instead of a body

Yeah silicone valley liberals you sure are transcending

>>126146709

What are you talking about? Who said that? Nobody is being killed, the aim is to defeat aging and other human weaknesses.

>>126146709
It would be much cooler to have a bionic arms and legs that are much stronger than human limbs instead of your biological limbs

>>126146012

Not a tattoo, but a mark. I believe transponders/micro-chips will be involved.

>>126146012
it definitely does not, you fucking potato

>>126146909
yea and infection rates are 1/3
have fun with that

>>126146913
this

>>126147070

Those would not be outwardly visible, which scripture says the mark will be. Also the authors of scripture didn't know what a microchip is and didn't have any special information about the future. Your religion descended from a very successful end of the world cult which continued to grow generation after generation until it completely absorbed society and became the default. This is why it is difficult for you to recognize it for what it is.

>>126146613
I don't think that they currently have anything that can compete with the human hand.
I guess for legs you have these springs that help you run faster, but I wouldn't consider those an overall upgrade

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>>126145570
Transhumanism is redpilled as fuck if done right, but technoprogressives are insane fuckers who want to remove tribalism from humans.

>>126146913
Lol

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>>126147083

Don't call me a potato when you are so deeply deceived and do not even realize it. Why do you fight the people trying to help you?

>>126147266
>technoprogressives
Never heard that term before

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>>126145570
Can't wait for the unbridled hedonism phamily
https://youtu.be/6hKG5l_TDU8

>>126145570
They want to revive dead soldiers. They are called NON HUMAN CYBORG UNITS.

>>126146056
when you drive a car the car is receiving signals from your brain via you pushing on the gas or tuning the wheel
up until recently robotic prostheses worked the same way where you had to push buttons to get them to do what you want
now we're making technology that works by direct command by your brain
if your computer typed just by you thinking it does that make it a part of you?
why is a robotic limb any different from a car?
what about a robotic exoskeleton that increases the strength and stamina of people with all of their limbs?
I don't see how a piece of technology acting as a substitute for a limb is any different than a car aside from it being attached to you and cutting out a few steps between your brain telling it what to do

It should be a tool rather than an ideology like it is right now. Rabelais once wrote "science without conscience is but the ruin of the soul" and I fully agree with it

>>126145668

Nice try, Satan+2

>>126147418
>if your computer typed just by you thinking it does that make it a part of you?

No because I can get up and walk away from it.

>why is a robotic limb any different from a car?

Surgical integration

>I don't see how a piece of technology acting as a substitute for a limb is any different than a car aside from it being attached to you and cutting out a few steps between your brain telling it what to do

it is different in the ways you just listed

>>126147347
what am I even looking at man, that doesn't reference the mark of the beast being on the forehead on hand at all.

>>126147348
Think of American progressives who want to genetically engineer people to not be racists, or sexists or any other type of ist.

>>126147499

Keep reading. Especially the bit at the bottom.

>>126147418
It would pretty much just be a closer integration of the tools we already use daily anyway.

It is already starting, too. A couple decades ago, no one had a PC. Then they had towers that could only be used in a single room, then they had laptops that could be carried around on desks, now they have smartphones that can be used literally everywhere.

The next logical step will be a revolution for the way you interact with your smartphone (or its successor), so that you don't need manual or vocal input anymore.

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>>126145570
Not degenerate, could be if it becomes a social requirement or norm, The new Deus ex games puts shows it the best at how it would be commercialized and how it would just evolve from being a growing trend to a necessity.
Pretty degenerate desu

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interesting...

>>126147542
yea lol I'm not religious brah

>>126147523
Jesus fucking Christ.

>>126145570
It isn't though. I think it's a pretty legitimate way to extend your life.
Nothing but a tool for an end.

>>126147593

Deus Ex was not far seeing enough. What if robotic prosthetics are just a stopgap? As technology improves, we will be able to make artificial body parts that more and more closely imitate the structure and function of biological parts, until it's indistinguishable down to the cellular level.

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>>126147523

>>126147523
it will be genetically modified (pastoral ubermensch) vs technologically modified (high population degenerates).
I should write a screenplay

>>126146732
>>126147236
Ah, that's what I had thought. I'd really only want it if it were an improvement of the human hand. Like same fluidity/accuracy in movement + the bonus of having mechanical precision and super human strength in one arm (or, stronger, whichever)

I guess i just want a super charged V8 left arm that could knock some antifa faggot out with little force/effort and the ability to crush just about anything in my robo-hand. Say, an antifa ankle so they cannot escape. It'd also have to be a fully rotating 360 hand like MGSV though. That's so I can active the "meat grinder" when surrounded by 100 antifas

>Is transhumanism degenerate?
>I would say transgenderism is

I think you're confused, because those are not analogous concepts. "Trans" is an abbreviation for "transcendence" in one and "transitional" in the other.

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>>126145570
What do someone's limbs have to do with their being human? Heck, even if you replace your entire body with a machine, how does it make you any less human? You still possess the psyche of a human. Your nature and essence don't actually change.

>>126145570
Are pace makers a basic form of transhumanism?
Because I know a lot of people that have them and I don't consider them degenerate.

>>126145570
Not if it`s necessary to replace a lost body part due to an accident or illness but selective trans-humanism is degenerate.

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>>126145570

Totally. The people that are into this are spiritually weak. Nature is the only path to perfection.

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ten years lads

>>126147807

You would be stronger, but only as precise as your brain is capable of. Also to get the full strength of out a robot arm you'd need a titanium skeleton otherwise all the extra stress of lifting something really heavy would just be transferred into your regular skeleton and break your bones. You pretty much have to augment everything in order to get the most benefit

>>126147909
>Nature is the only path to perfection.
Then stop relying on modern medicine. If you're going to make arbitrary subjective value judgments, at least be consistent about it.

>>126147909

What non-technological species has been to the Moon? How can biological creatures become spacefaring without technology? If they do not become spacefaring, how will they last in the long run?

>>126148074
Better to not become spacefaring than to stop being human, IMO.

>>126148074
fuck the moon

>>126147720
Yeah Westworld tackles that too pretty well, even though the main narrative would be the road o self-awareness, but they explain that the android parts are almost indistinguishable from human flesh and bone.

>>126147893
Imo, they are crude forms of it.
These people altered their body via machinery to do a better job than it was doing on its own.
The fact that it was doing worse than it should without the machinery is not that important in my opinion - because then you'd have to define some completely arbitrary "norm" below which it counts as medical procedure and above which it counts as transhumanism. When in both cases it would be about pushing your body beyond the limits it would naturally be capable of via engineering.

Btw, does genetic engineering fall under transhumanism, too?

I would trust a robot before I trust a nigger

>>126148153
>Better to not become seafaring than stop being homo halibis, imo. p.s. ooga booga

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>>126145570
Humanity is shit. I'm leaving it behind.

>>126148318

I would say yes. It's a form of artificial improvement, just to the biological side of things.

I hope none of you cunts use a mobile phone, because that is augmenting your body, and is basically one of the early steps toward cybernetics.

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>>126148602
>How many scoops? Could you please repeat that?

>>126148598
WTF m8? We`re talking about transhumanist BS.

The first Human who used a tool became a Cyborg.
Also everyone from that up who used any kind of material to replace a certain body part, even if it would just be new teeth.

Up to now prosthetics arent better than the original but this time will come.
Combined with enhanced biological parts, either directly before birth or after that.
And this has nothing to with being " degenerated " but getting Humanity on a new level of progress.

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>>126147720

It will probably be biological from the get-go. With technologies like CRISPR-Cas9 and insertional mutagenesis, it will be more likely (and logical) to biologically enhance your body instead of cutting off parts and replacing them with clunky, unreliable robotics. Man-machine interface is where the cyborg shit will go down.

Other than that, expect to see a lot of animal-human (or even plant-human) hybrids in the next 50 or so years.

>>126148598
>mr kikeberg said we nee to mine moonrocks for him, looks like i better eternally enslave myself inside of a robot so i can be a more effective slave

>>126147222
>obviously the languages from scripture were capable of expressing everything that was needed to be said, it's not like languages have evolved throughout time and have allowed us to express ourselves in a more detailed manner

"Hurr derp I don't know anything about ur fairy tale n I don't care if contextual evidence or a prophecy might give ur view some merit"

>>126145570
Most of its premises and conclusions are false.

It's an opiate for the masses.

>>126145570
Only if it's cosmetic. If iprostethitcs are functional, then it's fine, even if it happens to be extravagant.

>>126148318
>Btw, does genetic engineering fall under transhumanism, too?

Yes it does and once again we germans will be falling behind the rest of humaniyt because our so called " Elites " will raise picture of Mengele and Lebensborn once this technology will be available for everyone.

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>>126145570
>However it is actually possible to become a cyborg.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..

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>>126148760
A L L O F T H E M

these new robot hands made me a more effective cotton picker, look at how enlightened i am.

>>126147492
you didn't really provide any good explanations
what part of surgically attaching technology to you makes it different from other technology?
what if it's not surgically attached and it's removable?

I'm sure you would say a chip imbeded underneath your skin would be in the same realm as robotic limbs but what about steel implants or even fake teeth or a surically attached hearing aid.

also we've come to the point we can grow or 3d print organs using the host's DNA
is someone who gets their heart replaced with a lab grown heart not human?

I'm not seeing any specific qualities of robotic limbs that you can't apply to other forms of technology that you wouldn't consider part of their body making them nonhuman

>>126148805
comes down to legal questions. if they can just experiment what consequences turning certain genes on and off has, they'll definitely go for bioengineering since then you only need to alter an already existing machine instead of building it from scratch

if regulations are super tight, artificial machinery might be a way around it

>>126145570
of course it is, its playing God
exactly what liberals do but more elon musk style

>>126148881
At least we are pushing automation. That's my last hope for Germany at the moment.

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>>126149010

>>126147492

Those aren't arguments. Why is surgical integration suddenly making it a part of your body? It isn't made of your cells, your body can't repair it. Is someone confined to a wheelchair a cyborg too because they can't get up and walk away?

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top kek.. he is young and already earned canadian pension!

>>126149028

People will just get stuff done in countries that don't have these regulations like they do for body mods today.

>>126145570
>I would say transgenderism is, because you can't alter your chromosomes.
>However it is actually possible to become a cyborg. Lots of people now have robotic prosthetics connected to their nervous systems.
>A cyborg isn't inhuman, but it's also not purely human. Part of it is human, part is machinery. Is it valid to say this is a new type of creature which is not accurately categorized as one or the other?

Transhumanism is only degenerate when one does it for anything other than necessity.

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>retarded christcucks trying to stop the future again
I'm so glad you people are powerless and dying out.

>>126146117
Wouldn't you agree that it is the mind rather than the body that must take on the role of Ubermensch?

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rolf.. you are couch potatoes and this guy already earned american medal!

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>>126145570
Jedi scum

>>126147350
>Hedonism
Boomer-tier nonsense, The main reason why the youth are utterly fucked. lack the ideals of starting a white family and working against the kike menace. Hedonism should rightfully die out just like other Marxist tactics. The world especially the west would be better off without it. It makes everyone into an asshole, not to mention why older people look like shit nowadays.

>>126149347
Hedonism is not the future, Look at your average person who's into it and you'll see they're miserable as fuck. Turn from penitential traditionalists into degenerate sex obsessed freaks of nature who lose their youthfulness.

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>>126145570

>replace your body limbs with shit made in china
>cant invent teeth regrow science

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

>>126149347
m-maybe if we eternally enslave ourselves to a machine we can continue being degerate subhumans forever and kali yuga wont end!

>>126145668

Jazz?

I'll never attach anything to my nervous system, even if I lose a limb, fuck that shit
Forced online connections for "updates" and shit is something I don't want, especially if that shit is connected to my brain

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>>126149609
>forever
....forever
.......forever

>>126149347
remove the dates at the bottom and replace "christian dark ages" with "ending slavery"

>>126149347
>he thinks the Christians will be the ones slowing down the progress of technology

>>126149609
Trans-humanism/Hedonism cannot equal itself to Nationalism. Nationalists care about not just their country but their cultural and ethical roots. The main reason why Traditionalists are much happier people rather then your average Hedonist who wastes his/her body away.

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>>126149674
https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/19/facebook-brain-interface/

implying americans will even ask you.

>>126149674
oh come on now its not as if the Illuminati will send out an update that makes you lose control of your own body and run amock

>>126149751
It will be Islam if mass uncontrolled immigration by Anti-Natalist Hedonists like Merkel continue to stay in power in western countries. Compare your average western country to a traditional slavic one and the difference is showing by a large margin

>>126149674
funniest bit will be when these subhuman kike roboghouls start getting hacked and get viruses. degerates getting choked to death by their own robo arms. justice

>>126149879
>Be Cyborg
>Can't wash his or herself

kek, They'll end up like that one Iranian man.

>>126149768
hedonists are subhuman and have been and always will be destroyed throughout history

>>126145570
Humans exist to evolve, and since the human body is a poor vehicle we may well replace ourselves with AI, which will really just be "I". If humans produce a superior intelligence that's evolution. Evolution cannot be degenerate. Evolution is beyond human standards even if humans deliberately act in support of it.

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>>126149768
>Trans-humanism/Hedonism cannot equal itself to Nationalism.

BWAHAHAHAAHAAHAHA FASCISM MA NIGGAAA

>>126149971
Pretty much, Islamists/Catholics utterly destroyed the Hedonist Greeks but your average Hedonist wouldn't admit it.

>>126148823

Every religion has prophecies. Every religion has apologetics.

>>126147909
Human endeavors and technology are part of nature

>>126150064
Fascism/National Socialism is something that can work, The Germans under Hitler were much happier then your average Hedonist who sells his/herself for money and drugs.

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>>126148972

It's all fun until some asshole progressive or authoritarian takes over and starts making mandatory upgrades... say, implanted monitoring device to detect wrong-thought, remote kill switch for that fancy cyber-heart, memory alterations hidden in skillset chips... That sort of thing.

>>126145570
that prosthetic is badass

the issue with discrimination in transhumans is that some people will have no choice after an accident and it will hard to differentiate the degenerates from the victims

some genetic enhancements are okay tho

>>126150152
Are you trying to tell me that Nazi Germany wouldn't have been 100% on board with genetic or artificial enhancement if they would have had access to it?
The same Nazi Germany that used drugs for increased combat performance and tried to breed superior children?

>>126149103
I work for one of Germany biggest car companies at our Headquarters.The factory nearbei is one of the most modern in the world when it comes to automation, 97% and still rising.

With this and the so called Industry 4.0 it becomes even more retarded when you listen to our politicians , saying that the Rapefugees willkeep our Industry and country running.

Scum that is even below a german 7th grader.

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>>126149950

iranian?

>>126150073
its all part of the cycle that retards go through.
>accomplish something by actually being decent
>become degerate hedonist
>get destroyed
dumb fuck hedonists never realize they are on the chopping block

>>126150186

Same. I am all for cybernetic arms and legs if they just connect to nerve endings. But nothing that directly touches my brain.

>>126149347
I hope you know that this " dark ages " meme is an invention from the 19th century ?

>>126150301
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/15/amou-haji-iran-hasnt-bathed-60-years_n_4602936.html

Yes, This is going to be every Hedonist in the future.

>>126145781
Enjoy your perma-soros

>>126150299
>Industry 4.0

I find it fucking hilarious how adamantly they insist that Industry 4.0 is not about automation when it is exactly that.

>>126150364
You know they will push for mandatory Internet connectivity and his gadgets that connect to your phone, same shit happened with cars

>>126150185
why would he wear shoes?

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With the might that we have been granted by technology the stars shall belong to us, and we shall no longer stay mere monkeys in the surface of a dying planet, we shall become... Conquerors of the final frontier

>>126145781
Do you ever see those middle aged people on the street who are out of shape and really ugly? Those are Hedonists.

It really depends. If I lose my leg in a car accident, and the option to have a robotic prosthetic is afforded to me, am I wrong for taking it?

>>126145570
becoming a Cyborg is being the embodiment of Human technological Advancement. Humans invent, we are curious and creative. To build yourself is to be Human.

>>126145570
it's totally degenerate. nature is savage and degenerate too but still feels better than the artificial extension merchant.

like we haven't got enough privacy concerns and hacking problems already.

>get brain augmentation
>some fucktard finds a backdoor and fries your brain from afar

>>126150462
so he has less wear on his prosthetics I would assume.

>>126150462
so his robot feet dont get dog poop on them. hes an advanced and enlighted evolution of humanity, remember.

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>>126150185

>cant walk around without fear the batteries run low and he literally dumps down in the middle of the street.
>comes home again and fight phantom pains and still have to cravl into his bed on own hands
>cant fuck normal because his superior legs doesnt have fucking sex app installed in the computers..


lol..

>>126150498
>am I wrong for taking it?

yes, because then you have to go back to getting a job instead of being a comfy cripple NEET.

>>126150534

So don't get any implants that connect to the internet. If people want that, somebody will meet the demand.

>>126150598
I don't want to be a NEET. I want to be able to earn my keep

>>126150397
Yep Automation and networking of even total basic toold and equipment. Which means either absolute high skilled employees for the first or second generation until machines start programming and producing on a larger scale more or less autonomous.

Inbreed Ahmed and Bilal who cant even read a common Bus schedule have no place in that future.

>>126150568

Why would you remove them if you could just unroll a flexible charging mat that goes under your mattress and works like those charging pads for phones? It would wirelessly charge your legs and whatever else as you sleep.

>>126150534
you'd have to be an idiot to buy a robot leg with Bluetooth and wifi capability
there's no reason to make it connect to anything but your brain
though it might be a good innovation to make it that you can plug it in to your computer every now and then and update it online
but not a live connection

>>126149369
No, human mind can compare at all to what AGI/ASI will be.

>>126150462
his feet dont heal.
feet are expensive.

>>126150673
>Inbreed Ahmed and Bilal who cant even read a common Bus schedule have no place in that future.

Anon, same goes for the most of us too.

>>126150534
So you are telling me you will refute getting a Pacemaker if necessary ? Or teeth implants ?

Augmenatation that are SUPERIOR to the bilogical original are just the next step.

>>126145570
>cyborg isn't inhuman, but it's also not purely human
A cyborg is superhuman.
Humanity is an evolutionary dead end. Inherently degenerate, lazy, fat, selected by negative traits and stuck with population so massive and diverse any natural further evolution is impossible.

We need to genetically engineer the superhuman, the superhuman will fix it all. What is superhuman like? Well if people were getting off inventing and discovering shit rather than twerking on meth - that would be an improvement.

>>126150779
don't be silly, if you are here you clearly have more than enough neurons to annihilate any normie scum

>>126150671
fair enough. I was just joking. being a cripple would suck more anyway and not working would likely kill your self-esteem.

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>>126150680
>Why would you remove them if you could just unroll a flexible charging mat

>spend all your money on recharge mats..

hahahaha

guys gyus,, i am CYIOURG!! I CAN WALK MEHANICAL! I CAN JUMP UP 10 METERS!!

listen fagget. you are not walking on cyber legs. you stumble on them and computer prevents you to fall down. and jumping 10 meters up still kills you when you land.

>>126150833
>being so scared of death that you become a toaster
robocucks

>>126149337
This

>>126150779
Only if you have no Self-esteem or ambition at all.

>>126145781
Nothing ever goes wrong when it comes to dreams of utopia

>>126145570
I just want full cybernization to be immortal like they are in Ghost in the Shell. Maintenance-free like Kuze

>>126145570
Replacing lost limbs to be functional again is not degenerate.

Changing what is functional into something that is not is degenerate, like cutting off your shaft and jewels and replacing them with a skin hole.

>>126150851
>Humanity is an evolutionary dead end. Inherently degenerate, lazy, fat, selected by negative traits and stuck with population so massive and diverse any natural further evolution is impossible.
No that's just the ruskies

>>126150910
> spend all your money
Hello pidorashque. Please stop projecting your poverty onto others, thx

>>126150779
Mostly goes for your regular employee who has no imagination and can only execute orders. So, exactly what robots can easily do.

>>126150911
Let me guess you also believe that Vaccines cause Autism ?

Humanity used technology since day one to get over its limitations, this is just the next step.

>>126150833
>So you are telling me you will refute getting a Pacemaker if necessary ? Or teeth implants ?

are these transhumanist tier already? nobody calls it that way, that's for sure. they are not something like a "smartlimb".

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>>126146012
>mark of the beast will be a tattoo on the forehead and back of your hand
>>126147070
>Not a tattoo, but a mark

>tfw I have marks on both

>>126150973
10/10

>>126149849
Gas that ru-cocksucker.

>>126151041
vaccines do cause autism you dumb cuck

>>126150779
>>Inbreed Ahmed and Bilal who cant even read a common Bus schedule

fun will start when Ahmed and Bilal will get brain interface and will learn reading your fucking language in1-2 weeks based on downloadable fucking brain interface training shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AOpomu9V6Q

>>126147347
MY GOD
you mean to tell me that Christianity is a religion? Youve just blown my mindhole out of the fucking world, this is revolutionary, whodve thought it, cheistianity, a religion

>>126150673
I'm really not sure what this Ahmed shit was about.
Can't have been about cheap labor because, as you say, we'll soon arrive at the point where we don't need it anymore.
I also don't think that it was about replacement, because they still need whites to maintain and operate the only semi-autonomous machinery, Ahmed won't be able to do that.

It looks more and more like a failed publicity stunt that spiraled out of control when organizations like the church realized how tax money they can leech by keeping the border open and providing shit-tier services to the asylum seekers.

>>126145570
It's very degenerate. Human's trying to play god, with corruption and absence of wisdom and perspective.

>>126150381
You're getting him anyway.
Can't stop technology by refusing to use it.

>>126151032
Not really. Automation can and will cull jobs that need high education like doctors and such. Same goes for engineers,artists or code monkeys too. We already have AI designing and creating stuff without human interaction.

>>126150955


Maybe, then again sometimes people get fucked regardless of that

>>126147374
Undead robopocalypse is a good apocolypse to go by

>>126151045
they are improving the capability of your body beyond what it would naturally be capable of.

>>126151045
>are these transhumanist tier already?

In the purest definition yes, doesnt matter how the common pleb calls it.

Capitalism will filter what comes next, if people have a demand for connected limbs it will happen.

All these fictional Deus Ex commercials give a pretty realistic look in my opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl_Wd_vAQIU

>>126151217

fun part is that why at the fuck you need a car when you dont need to travel to your working place anymore. everything is done by robots anyway.

>>126145570
Is eugenics degenerate? Transhumanism is basically the next step above eugenics, and /pol/ almost unanimously advocates eugenics.

>>126150726
>you'd have to be an idiot to buy a robot leg with Bluetooth and wifi capability

So buy one without those.

>>126147374
the next 'evolution' of the kikes thrall, the literal zogbot

>>126151364
Especially if it's some pleb shit like Opel
Who will buy those?

>>126145668
Christianity is a degenerate cuck religion. Your religion leads to slave morality and dysgenics.

>>126151203

Non-Abrahamic religions exist which do not use the same formula to entice conversion, deter doubt and motivate evangelism.

>>126145668
If you've ever had a blood transfusion, had a major operation, taken vaccines, or operated any kind of electronic you're going to hell

>>126151259
High education doesn't necessarily mean imagination. Your average hospital doctor doesn't do much but try to find the most likely cause for a set of symptoms and then prescribe the already developed medication.

If you go to drug development, it already looks different again. They highly automated that field by having the synthesis done by robots and going for a stronger brute force approach, but they won't be able to get rid of the remaining biochemists still involved in it any time soon. Because if you want to replace their intuition and imagination with a non-AI robot you have to bruteforce on such a scale that just paying the chemist is a lot cheaper.

>>126150673
>>126150779
>daddy why didn't you invest in google while it was just half a trillion in market value

If you invest the companies building the robots, you and all of your progeny will be set for life.

>>126151217
Voting cattle.

Partys like the SPD and Die Grünen belive that this scum will keep them alive, throwing gibsmedat at them. While the Mudslimes here dont care about german politics.

But i also belive it was the general stupidity of our politicians, especially Merkel who wnated to have nice picture of her saving the Poor of this World.
Instead - as always - it backfired because those fucking Morons who have no knowledge about modern technology at all, didnt realized that the pictures and statements about open borders go instantly through the entire world with one click.

Its hillarious how our fuckheady belive the fairy of poor innocent Migrants who lost their paper on the dnagerous journey, while everyone of these orcs has a fucking smartphone which miraculously survived the passage.
Poor souls just forgot to take pictures of their lost passport like every white would do.

>>126146117
>>126150737
Just kill yourselves then, you fucking beta faggots.

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>>126145570

It's normal anon,we should enhance humanity,it's not degenerate.

Some will opt for genetic manipulation, some for prosthetics but in the end it will make us better

The only real concern I have about transhumanism is the capability of a third party to control the software and by extension the owner of the enhancements

>>126151820
believe ffs

Every single vaccine and laser treatment is technically a permanent augmentation
I don't really see much of a difference between using a machine that is operated and one that is worn. And I doubt we'd be able to manufacture limbs with a nervous connection that long before being able to print normal, living human limbs in a lab, so choosing either one would be mostly amoral
Not more than choosing a bicycle over a car anyway

>>126145570
You understand something like a cyborg will develop it's pathology. Humans with augmentations will start developing superiority complexes, after the initial inferiority complex. They will see those who mock them as sub-human, and anyone without augmentation will fall victim to the Cyborg-lobby. Look at faggots and how much damage they've done with their Ass-blasters lobby.
Peace upon you, wake up Christian brethren

>>126151961
People will chose the biological enhanced over the pure technical ones anyway.
Or a Terminator style where the artifical limb is covered by real flesh, designed and grown in a lab.

>>126151820
Since it was basically all Merkel's doing, I doubt that it was about voting cattle in this case.

It sure as fuck is when the Greens boycott any change to the asylum laws in the Bundesrat, but the CDU was approaching the total majority in the polls, they had no need to import further voters for themselves.

Maybe we at least get lucky and they start cleaning this mess up now that SPD and Grüne are losing influence.

>tfw living in the Ruhrgebiet
>and watching SPD get BTFO

In the last 50 years, they ruled 45 of those. I sure as fuck hope that the CDU realizes what massive chance they've been handed.

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>>126151696

lol..

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>>126151920
>it will make us better

>>126147148
Actually Titanium can be grafted to bone incredibly easy and risk free. They use it in Dental implants.

>>126152084
>In the last 50 years, they ruled 45 of those. I sure as fuck hope that the CDU realizes what massive chance they've been handed.

As someone who has lived in the Ruhrgebiet for almost his entire Life you cannot imagine how glad i was when the SPD and Grüne were fucked last week.

But the CDU under Laschet ore no better.

Still seeing the Grüne going down in general feels just so fucking good.

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>>126152082
Police will probably have their own personal exo-skeletons they can use on the job.

>impervious to bullets
>camera records all interactions
>ai helps analyze legal code to see if any laws are being broken
>super strength to knockout niggers with one punch

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>>126145570
As a former futurist. I loved the new tech, but I always hated the sorts of security risks it involved.
Want to yell at google maps to input your destination? Ok but you have to be data connected for that feature to even work. Even if you have the local area downloaded. So that implies your voice is sent off to some server to be translated and sent back to your phone. WHY? speech recognition software is not even a gig.

Hugh Hurr. Big name in bionics, though I prefer to call it cybernetics. THE MOTHER FUCKING THINGS WORK ON A WIFI SIGNAL. why? it's connected to you. why does it need to be on wifi. why does it need a wireless access that any one can use?

Self driving cars are another fucking problem. One was already used to kill some one. A reporter got too close to GM so they made his autopilot car break the throttle pin and fly down sunset blvd in LA. witnesses reported that car just flatten itself into a wall, his whole family inside. and the engine is still going flat out after that.


If cyborg tech that is hard wired with no online features AT ALL save for wearable devices like kike glass or what ever, I'm in. A mobile internet connection is great I just don't want it able to interact with my body.

But honestly the people in power are not to be trusted with this shit when always online is a part of it. It is a stupid fucking idea for video games, it would be infinity more stupid for your real life body.

>>126145781
>transhumanism via genetic engineering is the inevitable future of mankind
It will no longer be mankind

>>126145570
I-is pic related a reality now? Mechanical augmentations and nano when?

>>126152344
>If cyborg tech that is hard wired with no online features AT ALL save for wearable devices like kike glass or what ever, I'm in.

You can see a market opening for non-connected prosthetics. Be the guy who meets that demand, and make $$$.

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DAILY REMINDER THAT ARGUING THAT "BETTERING YOURSELF IS NOT DEGENERATE" IS LITERALLY THE SAME AS RACEMIXING WITH A NIGGER BECAUSE YOU WANT YOUR SON TO BE AN ATHLETE

PURITY > EVERYTHING ELSE

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>>126152084

>read wahlprogramms
>only die Linke has any plans for Germany, EU and its population
>every other party just concludes the actual happening and asks to vote for them.

top kek. Die Linke got stumped into shit for that. Our bydlo is living since 68 under "dont talk about politics" shit way to long. people are afraid to look who is ruling them.

>>126152392

Yes but they generally don't look that cool: >>126150185

>>126145570
I can seee this idiots in situation when they will lose their arms and legs... please no we dont want these mechanic parts from Satan.I will better never walk and clean my ass myself.

>solar flare makes a massive emp
>robocucks starve to death since they cant lift their own limbs
fun

>>126152041
I read your comment and comments like your like this.

If i had a good Trait i would feel superior to everyone else. And im such a dumb person that i cant help but create a two tiered system that neglects people different from me. so im worried that if we become Cyborgs that they might be like me and I wont be Top Tier, so I want to halt all Progress. My culture is so shit and my Ego is so weak that we must not risk Human Advancement.

get enlightened.

>>126152344
>>126152441
Hey at least us cybersecurity guys have job security

>>126152495

So they get replacements. When you're a cyborg your body is modular and easily repaired.

>>126152490
Can't wait for deus ex to became a reality.

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>>126152101
do those two enter two legged races together?

>>126152586
>get replacements after a global emp
i like how only the dumbest subhumans buy into this robocuckoldry

>>126152271
I lived all my life in the Ruhrgebiet, so I can :^)

And yeah, the CDU is hardly any better - but contrary to the SPD and Grüne, they are not ideologically forced to go down this road. They can take a tougher stance on criminal immigrants without a problem, it would probably actually help them in the polls.

I just hope that whoever is doing their analysis is clever enough to realize that they did well in those areas where the AfD did poorly, and that the AfD did poorly in those areas where the CDU did well.
i.e. they "borrowed" a shitton of votes from people who are not necessarily supporters of the CDU, but saw them as a realistic option to at least put an end to RotGrün.
Knowing those tards, they'll assign it do Merkel though and say that her "political competence and stability" led to the CDU winning.

It's wierd.
Growing up, everyone would have said transhumanism would be a good thing.
Then the reality about social justice became apparent.

>>126152635
We won't be human anymore. How can you want such a thing?

All I'm waiting for is rejuvenation therapies so I would live long enough to travel the stars tbqh

Trvaelling the stars and the past if there are means to do it, imagine fighting with Alexander, fucking Cleopatra and drinking some pisswater among a strong odor of unwashed feet in an medieval inn

>>126152317
Fun fact: When a certain Green party politican was on tour in our factory she asked if we could theoretically change building Cars there towards anything else and how long would such a conversion take.

Our CEO - who hates this Green cunts with a passion - didnt changed his face and answered stoic that we could switch from cars to Terminators in a Month to help hetting the country back in shape.
The dumb politician just looked at him in shock while the CEO kept walking.

>>126152586
>manufactories fully automated
>emp hits
>all instantly stop working
>cybercucks can't move their limbs, can't get replacements

Genetic engineering > cybercucks

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>>126152344

like i said. NONE OF US COMPANIES WILL EVER ASK YOU IF YOU WANT THIS SHIT! THEY WILL JUST FORCE SUCH PRESSURE ON YOU THAT YOU WILL BE GLAD TO JOIN THE CIRCLE OF SHEEP!

>>126152707

If you read old scifi, they said in the future there would be robots, cyborgs, aliens and mutants.

We have robots and cyborgs now. Trannies are basically mutants. We're just waiting on ayy lmaos.

>>126152722
Good. Humans are flawed

>>126152722
We're also not apes anymore. Was that a bad thing?

>>126152874
Flawed according to whom?

>>126152882
>evolution theory
good goy

>>126152441
if only I had the know how. brb 20 years of scientific study and engineering programs. screen shot this post and archive this thread.

lol no some one else is going to have to do it. My skill set is in a different field.

>>126152699
>They can take a tougher stance
>CDU

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH

mal im Ernst mein Heinz.. CDU ist eine Personifikation von Korruption und Klingel shite.

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>>126152930

haha, ok mr. Hovind

>>126152874
And we must improve ourselves by organic means not become slaves to machines.

>>126152930
Is it really worth it baiting this hard in a thread for hours when you barely get any (You)s for it?

>>126152882
>implying this is evolution

>>126152791
CEO sounds based as fuck desu

>>126152829
That is indeed why smart phones are a thing now.
I even held out until 2015 to get one. But even companies expect you to have that sort of connectivity these days. It's not bad that this is happening, but there are consequences, and the potential for a lot of things to be used for control is high.

>>126152923
According to me. If humans were closer to machines they would only act rationally

>>126152983
>mr goldberg said 99 percent of my dna is junk and im a nigger. guess i better cut my limbs off so i can serve mr goldberg better

>>126152829
Just like VR ? They sold us this shit months ago like the second coming of christ, hoping that especially gamers will push this.

And right now nobody cares because these Things are way to expansive for the common guy and the software aka games gives no advantage.

>>126152815
>Genetic engineering

old shit. the advance trangenetic is already new Hipster, dude. they even got brain grow where they want. soon you will shapeshift like fucking marvel Skruls.

>>126152791
I hope you guys bought him a crate of beer afterwards.

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>>126153124
>rationally
No we would act emotionless. Do you think a machine can create pic related?

>>126153159
>It is purely coincidence that the taxonomic map of interrelatedness matches up perfectly with the genomic map of interrelatedness, which matches up perfectly with the order fossils are found in the strata
>Why? Because Jews. Jews jews jews jews. That is my argument

>>126153124
Is it good to only act rationally? We're not actually machines, and it's not always in our best interest to be rational. Rationality falls in love with its own creations.
Sometimes it's good to act out and exercise destructive, irrational behavior. It's in the best interest of humanity to do so.

>>126153173
VR Porn will pave the way like it did with internet streaming

>>126153173

Huh? I have one on my desk. Narcosis is a good example of a game that's better in VR than out.

>>126153244
Yes actually. AIs who can create art already exist.

>>126152791
>how fast can you change form cars to " any thing else"

In WW2 America many car factories were refitted for tanks. Do your politicians expect to need some tanks soon Hans? I think Terminators are a better idea. Your boss sounds based af.

>>126153118
>But even companies expect you to have that sort of connectivity these days

lol. my boss demanded that i get his calls and memomes on my phone. i send him fotos of his wife a friend of me hacked from his phone.sionce then all this !always connected" shit is gone and we earn even more money the old way.

>>126153277
>and it's not always in our best interest to be rational.

That's literally never the case.

>>126153173
if they wanted gamers to be the backbone then they should have made better games for it.

>>126153270
>if we throw out 99 percent of human dna the remaining 1 percent is kinda almost related to a monkey, muh theory.
the earth being flat was a scientific theory too, idiot

>>126153339
The Greens fucking hate cars. If they got it their way, we'd either use nothing but public transportation or never move beyond the city limits.

So I am fairly certain it was about that rather than reclaiming our rightful clay.

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>>126153124
>yes goy enslave yourself willingly

>>126153115
He is. His opinions about Merkel and all that Rapefugee scum are on /pol tier level.
We got close because he used to took his running rounds just where i do and asked me for advice to get in shape without going into a gym. ( doing sports and martial arts since being 14 years old )

Not lying, that helped my career a lot until now.

>>126153308
They can copy just like machines. Nothing creative.

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>>126149454
>mfw plugged into the VR pleasure matrix for 80,000 years

>>126145781
Everything that strays from nature is degenerate. man is not God and was never supposed to be. Good luck rottin in hell you disgusting insect.

>>126153429

...No it wasn't. Science did not exist back then. It is descended from natural philosophy, which also wasn't a thing yet.

Flat earth cosmology comes from the Bible and mirrors similar flat earth cosmologies of neighboring cultures like Egypt and Babylon at the time.

https://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/flat/flateart.htm

You can google "Hebrew cosmology" and choose any source you like.

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>>126145570
mfw I can now shitpost on /pol/ just by thinking

>>126145570
Augumentation with limits is fine, as long it is not being treated as some fashion accessory.
For example military stuff. like vision auguments for snipers and such.

>>126153348
LOL you sent your boss his own wifes nudes?!?!?!

>>126153511
This.

>>126152507
Shit nigger, you barely read it.
What about the psychology of (((them))), can't yousee it's the same thing.
>YHW and (((them))) have a covenant, they're G*d's chosen people (according yo them)
>proceed to destroy humanity
Cyborg version
>Cyborgs have a covenant with ((((tech industry))), they're humanity's chosen people
>proceed to destroy humanity
Same applies to faggots. These people WILL form like-minded communities and work on "improving" all of us... Peacefully or by any means necessary.
Printscreen this, faggot, and mark my words

>>126153173

dude. its about the power of media and people brainwashed into shit by constant product propaganda. Smartphones havent changed at all. its the same shit plane with bugs for already over 10 years. all what is added is just little bit power and some fucking candy crush.

real virtual reality was the fucking pokemon. all this VR shit is just money scam which makes you blind faster than drinking wrong alcohol.

>>126150185
He skipped software update day

>>126153533
>nevermind the 'junk dna' we ignored in our 'testing', goyim. you are a monkey from africa, go racemix more.

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>>126153200
I can't wait to see how degenerate body mod fuckers get.

>>126153690

This doesn't address the fact that you either lied about or were ignorant of the fact that flat Earth belief comes from the Bible and science did not even exist at the time you're claiming it was responsible for flat earth cosmology

>>126153398
I guess not if you have no regard for human dignity or free will

>>126153573

dont give a shit about his wife. i just send the photos of his wife and told him how save the shit is. he was upset first but then understund my concerns about my private time and about him eating to much shit from comecrials and some barin dead professor in fancy Cologne univercity.

>>126153604
>These people WILL form like-minded communities and work on "improving" all of us

Why would i work to improve others - especially strangers - to reach my unique level which gives me an advantage over them ?

Its ok if the guy is mutilated and not for fashion.
Wold you deny this to a kid who cant use his legs?
Why God fuck up that kid legs?
Masterplan my ass.
Religions shouldnt stop the progress of humanity.

>>126153894
not an argument, slave.

>>126153475
>His opinions about Merkel and all that Rapefugee scum are on /pol tier level.

I am always surprised how far spread /pol/-tier sentiments actually are. Once you know people better and they don't have to worry about you snitching, they'll come out with stuff that could have been straight from a /pol/ discussion.

Sadly, for some reason that often does not translate to their voting behavior.

>>126153976

What? Yes it is. Calling somebody a slave is what isn't an argument. That's an ad hominem.

>>126151564
>Religious whites are above replacement level
>(((Hedonist))) whites have extremely low birth rates due to hating children

Hedonism is the worlds biggest bluepilled

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>>126153604
There is always conflict it's in human nature. Conflict between races, ethnicities, religion, sexes. People who are shilling for tolerance are just the tools of the opposing side.

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>>126153903
The virtue of Rationality means the recognition and acceptance of reason as one's only source of knowledge, one's only judge of values and one's only guide to action. ... It means a commitment to the principle that all of one's convictions, values, goals, desires and actions must be based on, derived from, chosen and validated by a process of thought.

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>>126153951
Not everyone is an ancap my german friend. Not everyone values individuality like we do.

>>126153999
>Once you know people better and they don't have to worry about you snitching, they'll come out with stuff that could have been straight from a /pol/ discussion
This is my experience with germans too.

>>126145570
>giving up your flesh and blood for a shiny jew-made piece of metal that will allow you to be monitored at all times and will have a built-in disabling mechanism for when they want to do whatever to you
>jews will only allow you to "rent" these, ensuring that you are forever their literal wage slave and work to live
No thanks m8.

>>126154145

What if Jews don't make it, and it has no wireless of any kind?

>>126154026
>(((theories))) are facts
>enslave yourself to a machine forever so kikes can more efficiently farm you
you are a willing slave and frankly you deserve what you get

>>126153694
Hedonists ruin their bodies so much that nobody would go near them with a ten foot pole. People that are sane know that Hedonists are even worse then "White Trash" at least they have jobs, Hedonists believe the typical bluepill millennial garbage.

>>126153951
Why do transdegenerates care so much you use the proper pronoun?
They want to induce mass scale psychosis. As that christian theologian said, and I paraphrase: there will come a time when men go mad, and anyone who is not, they will call HIM mad, for he is not one of them

>>126154218
>>(((theories))) are facts

Yes, that's right. Theory is as confirmed as anything ever gets in science. Though it would be more accurate to say that theories are proposed explanations for the observed facts which have been confirmed by experiment and independently recreated.

>enslave yourself to a machine forever so kikes can more efficiently farm you

You lead a rich fantasy life, don't you.

>you are a willing slave and frankly you deserve what you get

I expect that from you. But I don't hate you. I don't know what makes you like this but I hope your life improves.

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>>126154028
>Religious whites are above replacement level
Religious whites are not necessarily Christian whites

>(((Hedonist))) whites have extremely low birth rates due to hating children
Until artificial wombs and maidbots are invented

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>>126154218

you following what kikes do in Ukraine?

>>126154262
This is what happens when religion is removed from society and replaced by marxist subversion.

>>126154356

What about neither?

>>126154051
What about the subconscious, and all the value structures that are rooted within? Your definition only allows for the accommodation of ideas that are readily understood by identifiable, conscious thought which is able to be understood and analyzed coherently.
Humans are much more than coherent, systematically validated thinking.
The problem comes when we think we understand everything within this tiny little framework of rationality when there is in truth much more to the picture.

>>126153999
You can almost see a physical transformation once they realize that you share their view.
They smile, whole body language changes and you see a general relieve.

The real Liars are the once - especially Green voters - that will hold hour long speeches about being progressive and open minded towards these poor Immigrants while they live with two cars in an almost white Suburb and will take every possible way to send their Kid ) if they have one ) to a school without any Mudslimes. No matter how expansive it is or how far away.

Disgusting hypocrites.

>>126154376
There is no neutral. You either stand with God or with the pseudo-religion of liberalism.

>>126154468

Nope. I choose neither. I know something you don't know. :^)

>>126154194
Then the government will ban them outside of the military.

I'm looking forward to technology that can perfectly replace any biological part

Let's say a weeb with a katana slices your arms off with a perfect cut.

And have it replaced with a part that would mimic the lost arm exactly. A part that merges with the body, not a parasite strap on like today.

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>>126154356
>This is what happens when religion is removed

spoiler: religion is never removed. it only changes or is replaced by new one.

>>126154380
>The problem comes when we think we understand everything within this tiny little framework of rationality when there is in truth much more to the picture.

I never claimed such thing. Of course we don't know everything, but what's important is the process. By using logic and rationality we can uncover that which is not already known.

>>126154505

May I see your crystal ball? Why are computers with no internet connection permitted outside the military today?

>>126154355
the new emblem for the ukrainian intel agency is an owl stabbing russia with a sword... subtle.
>>126154322
you are the one living in a fantasy thats been created for you by kikes.

>>126154515
Wenn die Religion zur Tür hinaus geht, springt der Aberglaube durch das Fenster rein....

>>126154498
>Nope. I choose neither
You have already chosen securalism the bastard child of liberalism.

>>126154599
>you are the one living in a fantasy thats been created for you by kikes.

It's really ironic a Christian would say that. Christianity was invented by Jews and was originally a sect of Judaism. Until Paul changed it, it was only going to be for Jews, no gentiles allowed.

>>126154557
You can't kill someone with just a computer.

>>126154697

Nope. False dichotomy. I don't fit into your retarded little worldview. There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

>>126154342
>Until artificial wombs and maidbots are invented

Pretty much only exclusive to kikes or globalists. It would make the white birth rate grow and they wouldn't want that.

>>126154356
Hitler may have been agonistic but at least he actually cared about his people and wanting them to stay the majority. Same with Himmler and he was a Neo-Pagan.

>>126154715
im not christian, but nice strawman

>>126154770

You're so ashamed of it that you pretend not to be. I suppose that's a small improvement.

>>126154715
>Until Paul changed it, it was only going to be for Jews, no gentiles allowed.
Galatians 3:28. You pagan larpers are really pathetic.

>>126154804
just crying and calling every traditionalist a christian only shows how retarded you are

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>>126152194

You have some really well defined and engaging points there,please allow me to state my opinion on them

Fuck off retard