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US Navy moves second aircraft carrier near North Korea

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HAPPENING
A second carrier group is now being moved to N. Korea. The USS Ronald Reagan is on it's way.

>http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/18/politics/uss-ronald-reagan-duel-carrier-training-korea/index.html?sr=twCNN051917uss-ronald-reagan-duel-carrier-training-korea0446AMVODtopPhoto&linkId=37770975
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>>126128038
Is this like last time where Trump said hes sending an armada and 3 days later it was spotted sailing the totally opposite direction?
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great, how many white men will be sacrificed for the globalist jew this time?
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>>126128586
Not nearly as many as the little yellow twinks. They will have the greatest losses.
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>>126128498
If you read the article, it shows that armada is still there, and they plan on doing "duel carrier exercises". Which is a very interesting place to practice, next to North Korea.
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This is the biggest happening of all Korea happenings in years. Double carriers is literally war.

-/pol/'s response- "meh"
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>>126128868
Damn that's a lot of artillery.

We can't possibly put boots on the ground there. What's the endgame for the U.S. in Best korea?
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Never going to happen. Both NK and the USA are all bark
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>>126132170
>U.S.A
>all bark
Have you been living under a rock for the past 16 years? We've bombed or had troops in:
>Afghanistan
>Iraq
>Somalia
>Sudan
>Egypt
>Libya
>Lebanon
>Yemen
>Pakistan
>Syria
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soo...what is the logic of moving not 1 but 2 carrier groups closer to NK's limited missle balistic range again?
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>>126132002
Besides the 2 carrier groups, we have bases and fields in S.Korea, Japan, Guam. And we also have assets that can fly from the US mainland, and be back for a late dinner after refueling.

An attack on the DMZ and the artillery there, would be the first show of actual American power since the war with Japan. We did not even use our best assets when we did shock and awe in Iraq 2003.

North Korea is enough of a threat, that we will finally see what our military is really made of. I hope it goes well for us and our allies.
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this shit happens like 5 times a week. no one cares nothing ever happens
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>>126128498

They had mandatory exercises in Australia.

Literally part of the procedure of deployment.

Seriously, do you have autism? Do you yell at your friends for going to the gas station before they come over?
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>>126132881
You can't post in /pol/ until you are 18 years of age.
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>>126128038
>HAPPENING
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>>126132880
>we
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>>126132880
Iraq's military was like a kid with a bb gun compared to NK though. The only thing stopping a war with them is the fact SK will be reduced to rubble. Not even our military can stop that from happening I don't think.
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>>126132490
But those countries weren't dug in getting ready for invasion for the last 60 years plus willing to use nukes.
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>>126133260
>germany
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>>126130822
and u got 22
>its on.
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look for obama to bomb something to get his terrible ratings up.
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>>126133349
>Iraq's military

>murica bought generals and officers and bombed from distance

top kek when murica still lost the iraq war.
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>>126133392

your point nigga?
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>>126132974

Uh. No. I don't think you understand what moving two carriers there means. Please read the Stratford analysis of our military options-- this is a significant difference in force projection and it follows a meeting to brief the senate.

We are probably going to be taking pretty incredible action. Whether that means a war or just a decapitation strike, who knows, but something is going down dude.
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Duel or dual?

Duel by carrier group could be fun
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>>126133509
The point being nobody cares what a german thinks. And its a big assumption to say that a german is even capable of thinking.
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>>126133518
>Uh. No. I don't think you understand what moving two carriers there means

let the kid dream his anti cumonist wet dreams.

>>126132974
>They had mandatory exercises in Australia.


what the fuck is USA training in Australia against my nigga? Bushmen uprising?
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>>126133260

Germany, shut up and keep getting fucked by immigrants. Lose all of your culture and values, whore out your country and fill it to the brim with barbarians who want to rape and kill you. See how that works out.

You will see the consequences of your policies in a few years and you will regret your idiotic decision to allow Medieval Times to invade your once proud and powerful country. You were responsible for so much good and we are all sorry for the Nazi jokes, but you don't have to overreact and import bad minorities to prove you are tolerant, you can stop now.
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Is anyone here into this series: http://store.steampowered.com/app/614130/Command_Chains_of_War/

Any thoughts if so?
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>>126133604
>The point being nobody cares what a german thinks.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.. no seriously nigga whats your point?
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>>126133464
Iraq's actual military was non existent within 2 weeks.

North Korea's population would be interesting to watch though. Are they brainwashed enough to charge our troops with rusty spoons or would they surrender in droves for food?
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>>126133738
So tell me, why exactly is a german so triggered about North Korea? Though your use of nigga and the ahhahaha's make it seem likely you are some sort of proxy canadian scrub.
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>>126133675
>Germany, shut up
>keep getting fucked by immigrants


this priceless trolling of 12 years old immigrant gay freedom fighter Mochito Sanches..
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> LOOSE
LIPS
> SINK
SHIPS

DONT FUCK THIS UP ANONS.
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>>126133928
Why do you hang around internet spaces you believed to be filled with children?
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>>126132757
>logic
to bait NK into attacking first so US is supported by allies in glassing them.
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>>126133831
>Iraq's actual military was non existent within 2 weeks.

lol what did you loose the war against then?
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>>126134100
Your bait is good. Too good for a german. Show your true flag faggot.
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>>126134030
>Why do you hang around internet

Look Latisha. it is my job to keep underages from dong stupid shit on internet so their parents will not go to prison.
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I hate German posters so fucking much

They always bang on about how they are going to punish the UK for leaving (((their))) clutches in the EU, how they will punish Greece for the errors of kraut banks, how they will punish Poland and co for not following the German way and replacing their own population.

They are somehow more pathetic, more obnoxious, more destructive and more gleeful while doing it than the joos.

Kys kraut, your nation is dead, your culture is dying, your women are going to be raped by achmed, you will continue to elect Merkel and try to bully the nations with any pride in themselves, but you truly are already dead.
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>>126134262
That's a nonsense answer to a legitimate question. I think you don't like the only answer you came up with.
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Happening

forget it


just fear mongering aimed at Glorious Leader.

if there were any US navy boats even close to Best Korea they'd get BTFO of the water.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUOROLyD1d8&ytbChannel=stimmekoreas
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>>126134306
>I hate German posters so fucking much


DOES IT MEAN YOU WILL GO HOME TO ENGLAND?
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>>126133518
What is Stratford military analysis?
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Only issue with attack the Norks is they have a shit ton of artillery dug into the mountains in North Korea and pointed right at Seoul. There would be millions of civilian casualties within the first few hours. After that North Korea's Airforce would be done in 1-2 days their Navy in under a week, and the ground fighting may last a few weeks to a few years depending on how fanatical some of them are.
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>>126134407
>That's a nonsense answer
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>>126134487
I'm not that poster, but I'm pretty sure they meant Stratfor.
>https://www.stratfor.com/
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>>126134580
The price for letting them grow this strong will be paid, Seoul was a mistake anyways.
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>>126134593
Why do you seek internet spaces you believe to be filled with children?
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lol great leader is going to nuke the fleet or at least try to.
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>>126132490
then why hasn't trump done anything yet
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>>126134580
>Only issue with attack the Norks is they have a shit ton of artillery dug

wow. el generale opinions. the biggest problem with BETTER GOREA is that even after all those years of humiliation, insults, war threats, starvation, economical and political blockade and wars, North Korean people have bigger and harder balls that all Americans put together.
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>>126134022
You are right, I would delete this thread if I could. But it's already on CNN, so this info is already out there.
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>>126134829
He was waiting on the results of the S.Korean presidential elections. Which are now over, and the ROK's elected a liberal cuck, which means the US has no partner and has to push this conflict on its own or risk 6+ years of further ICBM development.
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>>126130822
Ill react when i see it. All nations do is posture these days. Nobody wants to give up their way of life, NOBODY.
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>>126134878
Even the children's balls?
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>>126134607
Oh yeah, my cousin does analysis for them. I have a free subscription to their email. They're an ok analytical company, nothing special imo, but they do a good job of aggregating important news from around the world, and leaving out the fluff. My somewhat biased opinion. Fun story my cousin told me: they were once approached by an African opposition party that thought they were a CIA front. These Africans were hoping the CIA would help them pull off a coup.
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>>126134662
They did try a couple times to move the capital south towards Daegu or Busan, but the citizens didn't want to go along with it.
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>>126134990
>and the ROK's elected a liberal cuck

top kek. the last american candidate turned out to be sligthly more criminal than McCain.
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>>126133831

>Are they brainwashed enough to charge our troops with rusty spoons or would they surrender in droves for food?

They probably are brainwashed enough, but I think they're going to simply just starve once the supply lines are bombed.
Wait a month after fucking up their food distribution and war would be over.
Then the remainders of the nation could be easily bought by airdropping food and messages of "surrender and you'll be well fed."
It's would be the easiest war ever, unless they decide to go full human wave zergrush and attack SK when they still have their military and chain of command intact.
Now that would make things a bit more interesting.
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>>126135146
Show us your real flag. Why are you so ashamed of it?
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>>126134829
because seoul is in firing range of a ton of nork artillery so doing something so rash as "imma just shoot'm" would result in the loss a ton of lives caused by U.S. aggression
not like a leaf would understand anyway
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>>126135222

WOW.. just think about. after the 70 fucking years of starvation and non-ending war there is really a fucking braindead finn proxy dumbfuck who thinks that NK-people will surrender.
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>>126135419
There's been defectors, and those who would defect would surrender. Not a large segment of the population, perhaps, but some people would undoubtedly surrender.
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>>126135294
Sacrifices have to be made in war. War is rarely clean and disinfected as we have been shown in recent times. Prices will be paid. And the South Koreans have picked an anti-US president, which forces the US hand to act unilaterally.
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>>126134990
>>126135294
so basically because of sk. and how has that changed then. sk is still sk and seoul is still seoul
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>>126135534
>There's been defectors
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>>126135294
Well NK has to fall else theres going to be a kim dynasty. Funny enough the longer we wait more people are going suffer and die. Barrack Obama putting the world on standstill with his hand holding its only hurting us in the long run.
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>>126135419
You don't seem to know a lot about North Korea if you think their loyalty is what keeps them in check. It is the forced labor camps, and 3 generation public execution for one persons "crime". Fear is a more powerful tool than loyalty, and maybe some Pyongyang elites would fight for awhile but the starving masses would likely surrender or not even try to get involved.
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>>126135581
SK's president HAS changed though. You're pretty dense for a leaf.
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>>126135581
It has changed because the US has lost a reliable partner in SK, and they are embracing China. This means the US can not expect progress diplomatically, so the other option now is military. And the longer we wait to use that option, the worse it becomes. So time is of the essence.
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>>126135561
>Sacrifices have to be made in war.

lol. you first and alone..
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>>126135697
again, sk is still sk. doesn't matter if it's a different president
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>>126135728
Show your real flag you drunk troll.
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>>126135561
yeah, but you are talking millions of civilian casualties within a day or two, and those are extremely high stakes that are not entirely justified
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>>126135710
you say that as if park would've been on board with the u.s. rekindling war with nk
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>>126135685
>You don't seem to know a lot about North Korea
>let me tell you the stories from eternal anglo reports.

honestly? what next? secret tourist fotos?
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>>126135763
Yeah, and USA under Obama and USA under Trump behave exactly the same with respect to foreign policy...
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>>126135810
Actually with a strike against the artillery on the DMZ, the loss of life in Seoul is expected to be around 40,000-60,000.

A merciful amount for their cuckery if you ask me.
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>>126135855
they do though. when will you americans realize that whoever you elect to live in the whitehouse doesn't matter
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>>126128868
>>126128739
>>126128038
>CNN direct link

fuck off libcuck
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>>126135846
Park was not for sunshine policy, which only rewards N.Korea, and buys them time for advancing their ICBM program.

Moon, is so much for the supposed "sunshine policy" they renamed it "Moonshine". Moon is the reason war is coming.
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>>126135907
DMZ arty is mostly easy and open targets. They have tons of tunnels and bunkers dug into the mountains in NK that have the range to hit Seoul. truth is we don't have accurate numbers on their arty but it is a lot.
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>>126135907
>is expected to be around 40,000-60,000.

lol. i like those numbers. because our army counted 3 million dead in 2 days. then USA will run away with tail between their legs as chinese will come closer.
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>>126135810
Theres no turning back. If NK gets nukes its game over.
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>>126136015
how would america expect to handle another outbreak of war in korea without full support from sk's leadership
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>>126136017
>DMZ arty is mostly easy and open targets.

lol. i just saw an officer of NATO falling down from his chair from laughter, when he read your shit loud.
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>>126135851
I used to be an NSA analyst on NK, but take it as you will Abdul. But you are here just to troll and bait people, so you do you.
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>>126136029
>our
You still won't show your real flag.
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>>126128038
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>>126136125
Like this, which is actually the Chinese plan.
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>>126136135
>I used to be an NSA analyst on NK
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>>126135561
this is true. But acting on the norks now without an efficient plan to minimize casualties would result in the U.S. getting fucking roasted figuratively and possibly literally by the rest of the world.
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>>126136193
that's absurd. the day china intervenes on behalf of american interests is the day russia invades it
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>>126136049
I agree, but their tests have all been underground with little to no radiation detectable afterwards. The size of the determined by severity of earthquake they cause put their "nukes" at like 1/5 the size of what was used by the US in WW2. So we are talking small "nukes", and I use nukes in quotation, because I think it is likely a non-nuke they detonate and claim it is a nuke to try and force people to give them aid.
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>>126136350
You can't read Korean then. This map shows the post conflict compromise. And it was drawn by the Chinese themselves. In realty the borders will change. But you probably didn't understand any of it in the first place so...
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>>126136246
>자살해라
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>>126136350
The Chinese generally support NK because if ever they fall to SK then China will likely have American troops and bases right on their border. Same goes for Russia, but to a lesser extent since the Russia NK border is small, so they more readily call NK on their shit than China.
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>>126136485
it's obvious what the map is. the idea that china would invade nk instead of helping to defend it is stupid. it would be diplomatic suicide. and you don't even know for sure if that map was proposed by the chinese
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>>126136485
What are the four countries? One I assume is South Korea in its current state (political state that is, borders are different). What are the other three?
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>>126136809
This map does not show China invading. It is countries taking districts for financial responsibility post conflict. There will be a refugee crisis, and an economic crisis, and this map is a starter plan for who would handle what areas. It is very much like Berlin, post WW2.
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>>126128038
Reagan is the Vinson's relief.

Nothing to see.
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>>126136923
I see.
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>>126136856
It just says Korea and doesn't specify, but likely means SK since NK do not generally call themselves Hangook. Russia, China, and America are the other 3.
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>>126136670
america beating its war drums is just a political move. china knows this and it's playing along reluctantly. and all the major players knows trump has been placed in order to carry out a 'misstep'
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werent there 3 carriers already near NK? how is this news?
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>>126137115
Canada doesn't know shit. Choose a different flag or just troll, nobody is interested in blatantly ignorant analysis.
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>>126137115
At this point though China is fed up with Nork bullshit. China is tired of dealing with all the Norks trying to escape through China since crossing the DMZ is suicide.
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>>126136856
The red area is China. The yellow is Russia. The lighter blue/teal is the United States. The dark blue is South Korea's territory.

This leaves the worst financial burden on the US, which makes sense with the Chinese as the ones who drafted this map.
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>>126137204
theyre sending the entiore US navy fleet to NK obviously


THAT is the power of Kim Jung Un
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>>126128038
>cnn.com
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>>126128038

Trump is in trouble and the dog needs to be wagged.
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>>126137280
I feel like liberation will a huge economic burden the entire world will feel. Though some of the cost could be recouped in the untapped minerals of NK. IRC they have large deposits of untapped cobalt which is used often in the tech industry.
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>>126137352
This guy gets it.
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>>126128038
Maybe send an Aircraft Carrier to the Mediterranean? Intervene and crack down on the rapefugee smugglers
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>>126137253
I can't imagine China is too bothered. Nobody really is, but China especially because NK human rights violations are far more egregious than their relatively safe weapons testing, and China isn't critical of NK human rights violations for obvious reasons.
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>>126137229
a lot of americans like you always fall for the same tricks over and over again. you're gullible and naive

>>126137253
china has its reservations but they still don't outweight the long-standing alliance they have with nk, just yet. especially when it comes to american interests in asia
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>>126137438

>Economic burden

For people who are used to sleep in ruins/starve and feel like fucking millionaires working for western tier minimum wage doing half as much work time they usually do
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>>126137438
And rumored possibly trillions worth of rare earths. Hitting the Norks is going to be costly, and the area China wants to claim covers almost all of their coal mines, and supposed rare earth reserves. There will likely be a lot of tangling over who gets to administer those areas, and who assists in the overthrow will have a better claim.
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>>126136350
>the day china intervenes on behalf of american interests is the day russia invades it
but US and China are now allies
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>>126137534
Yeah, China sends Norks back knowing they will be sent to work camps or just outright execution.

>>126137595
You misunderstand me. The economic burden comes from developing the NK. They barely even have electricity, and any country that wants a stake in NK land will have to take money out of their own economies to do it.
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>>126137667
Bigger deal is mutual agreement on what to do with all the wmd and related materials
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ITS NOT FAIR I MADE THIS THREAD HOURS AGO AND I ONLY GOT LIKE 20 YOUS AND IT FELL OFF I WAS FIRST THE ONE TO BREAK THIS NEWS TO POL

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hNvMMS4Y_ng
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>>126138010
My thread was dying too, until I posted a naughty picture.
>>126130822
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>>126134580
This is debatable, the US and SK have had satellite eyes all over north Korea, they know where the artillery is. They're also much more skilled at counter barrage. North Korea would not be firing their artillery for long.
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>>126137689
as long as american interests aren't near china, china doesn't mind. but they're co-operating out of reluctance. if they really cared to build a real alliance then they'd've stopped their expansion in the s.c.s.
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>>126137882
I think the US will dispose of it. We also sometimes agree to send material like this to Russia for disposal.

But ultimately I don't think anyone will want to keep it, its quality will be highly suspect.
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>>126134580
North Koreans have an extensive tunnel network that runs through SK and have nuclear submarines, They have many aces up their sleeves, no one will attack them
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>>126138478
They have a huge submarine fleet, but they are all diesel. There is no suspected nuclear submarines in their fleet.

Now having said that, the fact they have about 75 diesel submarines is still a big problem.
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>americans want to start a war for NO REASON AT ALL beyond a nation state testing weapons
>the anti globalist party wants to push its agenda on a nation across the ocean that has no influence or power over the US

S Korea should just join N Korea and China since the fucking Americans just want to see them get slaughtered. They are already moving away with an anti-US president.

Can't wait until the amerifucks get invaded by someone eventually and realize what their war mongering does to civilian populations
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>>126138263
I agree the number of casualties is debatable, because all of this is purely theory anyways. However, even one or two salvos would be devastating due to the sheer population density of Seoul. It is one of the world's largest metropolitan areas.
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>>126138388
China will get access to sea of Japan
s.c.s is moot, America won't help anyone there

China talks big about Syria but never commits, actions speak louder than words.
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>>126138656
>>126138592
>>126138478
You cant concentrate forces when they can lob nukes at you.
You would need to nuke them to beat them. America cant do it.

North Korea is better as a nuclear armed impediment to Chinas expansion.
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>>126138592
They have nuclear submarines. i know this. Also, they have built a great network UNDER SK that noone knows about. Within hours of a conflict there will be 100k Nork soldiers spread out throughout SK to sabotage and attack key sites
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>>126138643
Hi Canadian. Get back to us when you have sobered up. Quit the weed, it's bad for your brain.

Here is some homework.
>americans want to start a war for NO REASON AT ALL
What is an ICBM? What is its range? Who has them, and who threatens to use them the most and against who?
Hint: It isn't Justin.
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>>126130822
Kill yourself.
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>>126138803
What is a THAAD?
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>>126138881
its like you ignored my post and went on about unrelated shit

NK has never said it will do anything but test and test
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>>126138881
I've always thought liberating the people from the gross human right's violations. Can you imagine how favorable Trump would look if he basically saved the Norks from Auschwitz 2.0
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>>126138825
The tunnels are everywhere. Nork tanks will be popping up in downtown Seoul. This is probably the single greatest problem, it's worse than the artillery.
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>>126135038
youd think after WW1 countries learnt what would happen but nek minnit, WW2
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>>126139009
a defensive weapon that would work against small numbers of incoming missiles.
If they use rocket artillary and cruise missiles alongside nukes, no defensive system will be able to pick out the nuke.

If they launch long range missiles they would be few in number but if you go to them, they can swap your system with short range missiles and rockets.
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>>126138825
>They have nuclear submarines.
Yeah, I'm going to need a bit more then just your word on that.

Are you saying you actually work for the North Korean military?

Also everyone knows about the tunnels, and have for decades. This is nothing even near a secret.
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>>126132002
Yes that's a lot of artillery.
A lot of primitively calculated, born-to-kill serve-to-die operated artillery in a very long strip.
Also known as 'target practice' for experienced bombers and air to ground support.
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>>126138825
yeah, a lot of people think they'd just immediately bury seoul with artillery for some reason. what's more likely is that have a way to get into seoul underground and they'd blend in and target american troops directly. the thing is americans can't really tell apart north koreans from south koreans
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>>126139059
I feel bad for the media freedom in your country. North Korea raves about attacking the United States on a weekly basis. Also they want to fuck up Canada too, but it seems you don't even know about that. Sad!
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>>126139181
I know things. What Im saying is JUST HOW VAST the tunnel system is will surprise everyone, NK might even have the capability to conquer Seoul temporarily
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>>126139155
We armed Japan with shit loads of Patriot missiles as well. Those could also be used for missile defense.
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>>126139305
find a source for that, you wont be able to
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>>126139181
They have knock-off WWII Nazi diesel subs. They do have the ability to launch missiles from those subs.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/24/world/asia/north-korea-submarine-missile.html
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>>126139211
That's a military parade, not a fighting formation.
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>>126139059
they've 100% threatened Australia with nuclear weapons
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>>126139155
You have no idea how ICBMs work, and you should stop opening your mouth about things you clearly know nothing about.

Artillery and cruise missiles don't even come close to looking like ICBMs.
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>>126138592
simple STAY THE FUCK OUT OF THEIR SOVEREIGN TERRITORY.

YANKEE CUNTS ALWAYS BITCH WHEN SOMEONE ELSE DOES IT ..But it is different when you do it?

FUCK OFF and fix your shitty liberal problem at home
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>>126139396
A lot of NK Navy is just fishing boats with tank turrets of them, and if they turn the barrel and fire they risk capsizing. Their 2 biggest vessels are frigates one of which they grounded. Their Navy is a joke.
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>>126139059
>>126139472
http://www.news.com.au/world/asia/north-korea-threatens-australia-with-nuclear-strike-over-us-allegiance/news-story/fa28ccb9eaaff6c02f5c12bdc19bc227

link
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>>126139313
>I know things
This is not a LARP thread, fuck off
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A lot of people seem to think NK has nukes for certain, but I am not so convinced. I believe they are faking it, just to use as a show of force to make other countries give them things
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>>126135810
You do realise this number will only grow? It's literally at the minimum rn.
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>>126139567
DM me your email so I can remind you when the war breaks out and you can apologize for not heeding my warnings. Also to 4plebs, youll see i was the first one to break this news on pol. I know many many things
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>>126139536
Noone thinks their conventional military is the problem.
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>>126139763
tell us more then faggot
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>>126139835
AMA
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>>126139361
5 seconds on google and I have this
>https://news.vice.com/article/north-korea-blasts-canada-for-daring-to-pick-a-quarrel-over-life-sentence-of-pastor

>http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35741936
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>>126139211
Yet you seem to Forget......Rice Farmers Kicked the shit out of western forces in Vietnam......Learn from others mistakes as you wont live making them yourselves
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>>126138403
The problem is, chinese doctrine is to move forces past most of the production facilities for these things. Is the u.s. going to send devgru to penetrate the facilities ahead of the u.s. flot, potentially maneuvering around chinese and nk elements? Shit gets sticky fast.
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>>126139885
>vice news
>bbc
>no real quotes from NK officials

globalist cuck
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>>126139763
DM you? do you know what website you are on?

LARPERS fuck off
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>>126139951
artillery are a diversion and will be used minimally initially, NK plan of war will be similar to the Tet Offensive, surprising takeovers of major bases,cities and installations in SK for symbolic value
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>>126139567
They've had decades to build tunnels, seems only reasonable they've dug a lot of them. I don't see this as tinfoil, just obvious.
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>>126130822
Ahhhh, I remember when I was a naive happeningfag
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>>126139472
your a complete dumb cunt........Do you realise HOW FUCKING FAR AWAY THOSE CUNTS ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fucking dickhead they are near Japan.......NOT FUCKING NEXT DOOR.......


Fucking newfags that know nothing about distance
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>>126136193
Red is china i assume, Light blue south Korea, what are Dark blue and yellow? US protectorate and Russia?
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>>126139865
do you think shit is going to kick off at any point or in the future
what is the likelihood of a peaceful resolution
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>>126140183
>what is a nuclear submarine
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>>126140116
The artillery in the mountains are well-fortified and hard to reach, bunker-busters will be needed for the underground stores of shells
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>>126140054
I dare you to do your own research then faggot, it would do you good to learn about the real world.

Sure those are shitty sources, but I'm honestly not going to spend my time writing a proper essay for some canadian queer.
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>>126140219
Peaceful resolution is pretty much impossible unless NK has an internal civil war.
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>>126140116
finally someone who gets it......never under estimate a nipper as they will always bite your arse if your stupid enough to poke it
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>>126140118
Their tunnels are known. In fact the ROK's with US military regularly kill Norks in their new tunnels breaching the S.Koreans territory. My own brother has personally killed a Nork coming out of a tunnel there. This is not surprise information, but is well known.
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>>126140281
because the current NK regime has never threatened unprovoked nuclear weapon use.

most of these "threats" are responses to USAs attempts at subverting NK sovereignty
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>USS Ronald Reagan
Ronald Reagan? RONALD REAGAN? THE ACTOR??
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>>126140310
isnt the new SK leader anti-war? what will cause NK aggression
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>>126140183
The range of the Norks top ICBM has all of Australia within its sights. 7500 is no joke.
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>>126140448
americans fucking with foreign politics
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>>126140448
Yeah he is all for peace, but he used to be a human rights lawyer so I don't think war would be 100% off the table for him knowing the violations NK commits.
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>>126140448
The new SK leader has already been cucked by the north. He promised sunshine and lollipops, and they gave him a brand new ICBM test to return his kindness.
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>>126138592
Diesel subs are quieter than nuclear subs except for when they have to snorkel to charge.
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>>126140219
there will be a limited conflict unless NK escalates to total war (which is doubtful) the NK air force and ballistic missile forces will be neutralized quickly. This will be an intensive aerial and bombarment. Whether the campaign escalates to all-out war depends on NK response, there are some. red lines they cant cross, and bombarding Seoul is definitely one of them. Also, They have been warned that Japan is off-limits. If NK has a contained response (such as sinking a SK ship or shelling border positions or no response at all, then no full war will happen, just skirmishes
>>126140384
Yes, but its a vaster network than. anyone can imagine, theyve dug under some very key points in SK
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>>126140669
Yeah the diesel sub fleet is a problem, and will likely be the source of the most painful repercussions. But we will have to battle them anyways. Just hope they don't get a nuke out on an ally, but it might happen. Won't win them a way, but they might be able to pull one off to their own misfortune.
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>>126140669
very true..That is why Aussie subs are better than yanks and our Obo subs are still the quietest
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>>126140891
Mines are an easy solution to this. Their radar tech is fucking garbage.
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>>126140824
LARPer fuck off to another thread.
>red lines they cant cross, and bombarding Seoul is definitely one of them
You are so clueless. That is literally the first thing they will do, regardless of the scale of war. Fuck off and stop LARPing here.
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>>126141009
And luckily their ability to refuel limits their range, but I do have concerns about a rogue sub making its way to the Japanese coast.
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>>126141023
they also probably have subs off the west coast of the US and even if they aren't nuclear, they will launch non-nuclear strikes on various targets, or civillian populations if they want to.
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>>126141023
nah the first thing nk would do is hit busan's ports, where most of american fleet would be stationed
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>>126140183
> range of 4,500 kilometers

They can hit Darwin, which would honestly be an improvement.
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>>126130822
you are just retarded
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>>126141122
Nah I think Japan can handle it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTGwt9mE64A
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>>126141184
Well I dont disagree much with you there, I think they will hit Seoul the same time they try to hit those ports. And they will throw everything they can at all US assets in the region.
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>>126140891
You keep forgetting that your arrogance cost a shit load of lives and lost a very expensive war before...... Or did you think the world forgot how RICE FARMERS kicked your arses.....

Stay out of their business...plain and simple
Fix your shit hole first after all $15 Trillion in Dept is more than the rest of the west put together......your a shiny leaper country financially speaking
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>>126140893
> Abo subs
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>>126141023
No, the USA will not allow its ally's capital to be targeted, and have threatened NK to level Pyongyang to the ground if Seoul is attacked, also drawing such a red line can lead to NK miscalculating and attacking Seoul.

If you knew anything about wars, you would know escalation is gradual, NK wont use up all their surprises on Day 1
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>>126141402
>No, the USA will not allow its ally's capital to be targeted
Real life doesn't work like that.
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>>126141402
They have to go all out murder suicide, their Military tech is so utterly outclassed they don't stand a chance in hell.
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>>126141201
dude honestly......who the fuck would know.....if anything it might make it look better
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>>126141402
??? NK know the US has to fight clean and would probably call a ceasefire after the first few hundred thousand deaths or face every single one of their allies bailing on them.

NK will never, ever declare war on anyone but it will go out with a bang if someone treads on them.
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>>126141529
Yet Vietnam kicked your arses out using "out classed" weapons.......But I guess you forgot that
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>>126141393
Oberon Submarines......

Abbo subs I am pissing myself laughing here I spilled the VB.......
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>>126134058
Reminds me of WW2 days when USA was harassing germany.
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>>126141614
Are you implying we have the same level of tech that we did in Vietnam? And that the Norks weren't supplied with weaponry from Russia? fuck they even had Russian fighter pilots at the time.
>being this retarded
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>>126141614
Actually we left on our own because of a loss of political will in our population at home due to the hippie movement largely.

The truth is more sad then reality. What caused us to abandon Vietnam was a bunch of weed smokers with flower necklaces.
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>>126136135
I used to be a magical tiger that shit gold.
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>>126136135
_19/_15 or _42/3?
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>>126141879
Too bad you are garbage now. Seems like you used to be interesting.
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>>126141519
Yes it does. Syria has threatened a whole bunch of times to fire scuds at Tel Aviv but they fear the American response, NK is similar in that they are yapping about striking seoul but they wont unless its really an all-out war
>>126141529
NK manufactures their own arms. Theyve sold anti-ship missiles to Iran that Houthis and Hezbollah have used before.
>>126141591
USA has no reason or obligation to "fight cleanly" in NK, last time we went to war with them we killed 3 million North Koreans in 3 years and not a single functioning building was standing in NK at the end of the war, the USAF ran out of targets. And back then, China and USSR were openly supporting NK. NK doesnt have a single friend in the world other than a few other Pariah states, no one is going to defend them or care about their human rights the way they always do about muslims or jews, who have significant allies and friends all over the world and the media.Notice how both Dems and Republicans are rabidly pro-war when it comes to Nk? NK is utterly alone in this battle, USA will aim to make an example of them
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>>126128038
Is this the start of the last ditch effort to start Some Shit?
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>>126138592

>diesel submarines is still a big problem

>this rusty piece of shit
>a problem

Yeah. Nah.
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>>126137450
That guy doesnt know his pecker from his pet goldfish
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>>126142250
3 million? what the fuck
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>>126142304
They have more of those, then we have submarines in total. Things we don't like can still happen, proven by the fact that they have sunk South Korean ships multiple times over the last couple decades.

Outdated technology can still cause problems, and its arrogant to think otherwise.
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>>126142441
sorry 2 million between soldiers and civilians. One million Sk died
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>>126142304
If it is stupid, and does the job, it isn't stupid. They aren't competing with you in the Pacific, they will use those subs to drive commandos onto SK beaches and sink civilian shipping.
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>>126141823
well wrong on so many levels...weapons came from China and you have mixed the wars up, Korean War had Russian pilots (the area became know as Mig Alley) Vietnam had Chinese & Vietnamese pilots.

Tech wise you have pretty machines that do not operate well (case studies for Iraq and Afghanistan)
Sure you have some good stuff, But your recent "strike" in Syria showed How shit your equipment really was.......Most of the tomahawks missed the target......

You guys have your heads so far up your own arses you can not tell the difference between fact and propaganda......Like the french with the Mignon Line.....

Without the rest of the world you fail......Look at your country......
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>>126142250
Ok man, you are actually talking some sense here, though not 100% accurate.

But moving beyond that, the reason why Seoul is in danger because in this conflict it will be total war. Seoul is going to be shelled. If I had family living there, I would have them leave now.
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>>126141837
right.....so the panic on the carriers pushing million dollar planes and helicopters off to make room for landing aircraft was a planned withdraw? sorry Calling it a "advance to the rear" is still retreating......

And you guys Advanced to the rear so fast.......
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>>126142250
>NK manufactures their own arms. Theyve sold anti-ship missiles to Iran that Houthis and Hezbollah have used before.
How does that mean they aren't garbage ? I can probably build a gun and sell it to some fucking retard too, that doesn't meant it was in anyway a good weapon.
Also this
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/26/north-koreas-soldiers-closer-look-militarys-fake-
capabilities.html
>>126142595
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air-to-air_combat_losses_between_the_Soviet_Union_and_the_United_States
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>>126142801
We had veterans like John Kerry who were tossing their medals onto the whitehouse lawn.

Our kill ratio in vietnam was pretty fucking outstanding. But at home, creating piles of bodies had lost favor. By all metrics we were superior (prove me wrong), but the political situation changed.

Any idea that America was actually beaten back by the rice eaters is a pleasant fiction to those who prefer to dislike America in the first place.
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>>126142859
Its not garbage at all, sir, both times they were used their was casualties and significant damage to the ships targeted? Remember a few months back when /sg/ was basically spammed daily with videos and webms of a saudi ship being hit? That was a North Korean missile
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>>126134668
you write like a complete fucking faggot cunt kill yourself
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>>126143075
significant damage to ships targeted* Also in 2006 an Israeli Warship was badly damaged by a variant of Chinese silkworm missile whick NK is a known operator of. Even in the latest Gaza War, some Israeli Intelligence said some of the missiles that hit israel were produced by NK , but this may be rumors I dk for sure
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>>126142859
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air-to-air_combat_losses_between_the_Soviet_Union_and_the_United_States

They did not say Russian pilots......
"Student North Vietnamese MiG pilots were sent to China and the Soviet Union for up to three years for training."
and
"Soviet and Chinese Communist pilots were restricted to test flying MiGs which had been exported to North Vietnam from their countries"

read the whole not the headlines
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>>126142779
Lol. If seoulites were this flighty they wouls have just moved altogether. Their arty cannot even reach south of the han and are full of rust and soggy munitions.
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Nork tech is Saddam-tier, unless they get lucky with their "nukes" Kim will get fucking destroyed
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>>126136937
>what does dual exercises even mean
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Can't wait till supreme leader Kim wipes his ass with american flag after wiping american terrorists off his shore
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>>126143029
Kill ratios was a joke and you know it.....Fluffing your numbers is a artform....

You did not hold ground nor keep it for long.....Your loss rate was high for what....... the seek and destroy tactic failed......You had small victories and lost the war.....

I hate Yanks "glossy" memory as you do not want to remember the muddy times so you will be fated to repeat them......Look at every war since

Your country is imploding Your currency is a joke you have to come out of this delusion That America is great.......only after admitting the fact you can truly begin to rebuild
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>>126143029
I noticed you did not answer the obvious question...But I guess those days had a case of selective memory.

You forget the footage was show all around the globe and can still be viewed
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>>126143605
Norks are much more resourceful and efficient and intelligent than the decaying Iraqi Army was. They dont have much in the way of conventional weaponry but they will use what they have to maximimum effect possible
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>>126138010
Here (You) go you attention whore.
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>>126143955
>Norks are much more resourceful and efficient and intelligent than the decaying Iraqi Army was.
I see no reason to believe that fat boy is more clever than Saddam.

Kim does have one edge beyond nukes though and that's China. Conventionally Worst Korea could probably rape the Norks by themselves, K2 tanks and F-35's vs. T-72's and MiG-21's is not a contest and no the infantry difference won't matter. True there will be the initial hard-hitting artillery strike on Seoul but depending on the circumstances it's possible to severely degrade Nork artillery early on with superior air power/ship-to-shore missiles.

But if the PLA comes across the Yalu then all bets are off, it's 1950 all over again, regional alliances become relevant and World War III is on the table. But would the Chinese risk everything to keep Kim's regime? I'm not so sure...
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>>126128038
WW3 yet? It's either a major war or civil war. Bring back the draft!
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>>126133260
Wuz kangz
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>>126132490
>Iraq
Ayyyyy lmao
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>>126133464
Dude we didnt win american troopies just committed suicide becauze of the shit infested shithoel they found themsleves in
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>>126145773
>>civil war
Full on "it's been declared" Civil War will never happen.
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>>126134100
Hey do not insult my american friend you watermelon seller
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>>126145931
>>126146063
How goes that battle for Mosul? Iraq doesnt seem like a such a bad place if you like getting blown up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW_F2ntQOcQ&feature=youtu.be
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>>126146126
Well it was a shame that the union won
>Civil war was about slavery
Only 1.6% of america had slaves so.........
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>>126146368
I dont know bro our military is a joke they are too busy celebrating of the "liberation" of small villages basically a usless shithole in a shit bucket that no one cares about
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>>126132490
>>126134829
No money or power will be gained from attacking NK, therefore the USA won't do it.
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>>126143799
Nah our troops could have finished the job. D.C. shut them down. We were just getting good at the Jungle warfare. It takes some time to learn the enemy terrain.
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>>126146453
A NEW one, Achmed. I know the first one happened.
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>>126146453
You have an extra star on that flag mate
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>>126147322
Yeah i was just expressing my regret that the south lost
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>>126147435
We aint syria dawg we is iraq da balls and da sack you feel me
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>>126128038
One carrier group: a show of Strength. Two Carrier groups can mean only one thing: invasion.
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>>126147572
Feel ya G
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>>126128038
Give me ww3 already. I'm bored.
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>>126132880
>north korea
>threat
keep sucking the MSM's dick, you're a bitch to the globalist agenda.
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>>126147011
Yeah who cares about the fact that there are literal concentration camps with millions of people being raped, murdered and worked to death for say chuckling at the pudgy great leader. And thats just the camps. Their entire population is being held hostage by a power corrupted regime.

China is the same way yet i hear morally smug german bitch saying she wants to trade with them? Fuck east Asians, scum of the earth.
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>>126128868
that's one blig flawk of sitting ducks
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>>126148035
But some claim that their country is on the verge of a military coup
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>>126128038
Lol of course I had to get stationed here
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>>126148303
Shut up worst korea you are just jelly cuz best korea is kicking ass and taking names moon jae-in bitch boy
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>>126148220
Remember coup of Turkey? Take the cult of sultan Erdogan and let it soak in for 70+ years. Kim family has these people completely brainwashed. In order to save them we need to collapse their government completely.
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>>126148759
I read a testimony from a ching chong hoe he mated with and apperantley cried afterwords i guess we have that incommon
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>>126132490
>we bombed:
>lists almost every major desert in the world

16 years of playing in the sand, building castles and shieet, wp!

it's even sadder when you consider that france managed to get the best one for themselves to play on anyway
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One battle group releaving another battle group. Most likely nothing at all. The navy tries not to leave their sailors at sea too long. The first group has probably been at sea for more than 90 days without hitting port,
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>>126150005
Is 90 days really a long time for a carrier group to be at sea?
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>>126128868
couldnt you just use that afghanistan big ass nigger bomb shit on it?
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